1 00:00:11,697 --> 00:00:14,977 Speaker 1: You're listening to The Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 2 00:00:14,977 --> 00:00:17,977 Speaker 1: you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 3 00:00:18,017 --> 00:00:21,177 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, welcome to the Buck 4 00:00:21,217 --> 00:00:25,697 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. On this episode, Daniel Schmidt is with us. 5 00:00:25,737 --> 00:00:30,137 Speaker 1: He is a conservative activist. He is a student going 6 00:00:30,217 --> 00:00:32,857 Speaker 1: to be a junior at the University of Chicago and 7 00:00:33,017 --> 00:00:36,937 Speaker 1: already making waves. I've seen him on Fox News, I've 8 00:00:36,977 --> 00:00:40,297 Speaker 1: seen his pieces online. Daniel, great to have you on 9 00:00:40,337 --> 00:00:40,657 Speaker 1: the show. 10 00:00:41,537 --> 00:00:44,177 Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for having me. How are you all right? 11 00:00:44,217 --> 00:00:44,417 Speaker 3: Man? 12 00:00:44,977 --> 00:00:48,697 Speaker 1: It's been an interesting interesting time recently. You know, we 13 00:00:48,737 --> 00:00:52,777 Speaker 1: had those Supreme Court decisions came down and it really 14 00:00:52,857 --> 00:00:57,897 Speaker 1: put tremendous focus on admissions on college campuses. I know 15 00:00:57,937 --> 00:00:59,897 Speaker 1: you haven't been able to hear from, say, the president 16 00:00:59,937 --> 00:01:03,657 Speaker 1: of you Chicago, but as a current college student at 17 00:01:03,657 --> 00:01:07,697 Speaker 1: an elite school, what do you think the response of 18 00:01:08,217 --> 00:01:11,697 Speaker 1: the president the admissions committee you Chicago and other places 19 00:01:11,777 --> 00:01:13,337 Speaker 1: like it is going to be to the Supreme Court 20 00:01:13,377 --> 00:01:16,937 Speaker 1: decision that says it's kind of racist to do what 21 00:01:16,977 --> 00:01:17,537 Speaker 1: they were doing. 22 00:01:18,777 --> 00:01:22,217 Speaker 3: Well, it's actually really funny because the day of that announcement, 23 00:01:22,657 --> 00:01:25,817 Speaker 3: my administration sent an email to every single student and 24 00:01:25,857 --> 00:01:29,177 Speaker 3: the subject line was we care about diversity or something 25 00:01:29,217 --> 00:01:31,897 Speaker 3: like that, and the whole email is basically like, we 26 00:01:31,977 --> 00:01:34,057 Speaker 3: are troubled by these news and we're going to do 27 00:01:34,177 --> 00:01:38,217 Speaker 3: everything we can to ensure diversity still remains a focus 28 00:01:38,257 --> 00:01:40,417 Speaker 3: at our school. And I know Harvard sends some more emails. 29 00:01:40,457 --> 00:01:42,457 Speaker 3: They all send some more emails, So you know, my 30 00:01:42,577 --> 00:01:45,217 Speaker 3: prediction is they're just going to totally find loopholes. They're 31 00:01:45,257 --> 00:01:46,897 Speaker 3: going to get rid of test scores. 32 00:01:46,897 --> 00:01:47,457 Speaker 2: At my school. 33 00:01:47,497 --> 00:01:50,777 Speaker 3: For example, the sat act is already test optional, and 34 00:01:50,817 --> 00:01:54,137 Speaker 3: I think that's very deliberate. It's to place other emphasis 35 00:01:54,177 --> 00:01:58,577 Speaker 3: on the essays, on the personality arts, which is totally subjective, 36 00:01:58,657 --> 00:02:01,497 Speaker 3: and I think it's going to allow these emission officers, who, 37 00:02:01,857 --> 00:02:04,737 Speaker 3: let's face our all liberal are all bleeding hearts, to 38 00:02:05,217 --> 00:02:07,737 Speaker 3: allow more black kids in, more Hispanic kids in, and 39 00:02:07,897 --> 00:02:09,977 Speaker 3: less white kids in, less Asian kids in. You know, 40 00:02:10,497 --> 00:02:13,297 Speaker 3: I'm a lower middle class white kid, and something I 41 00:02:13,337 --> 00:02:15,737 Speaker 3: always say is that I look around in my school 42 00:02:16,017 --> 00:02:18,977 Speaker 3: and I have met very few middle class white kids. 43 00:02:19,017 --> 00:02:21,337 Speaker 3: It's like a total shock. When I got to school, 44 00:02:21,537 --> 00:02:23,657 Speaker 3: I found plenty of rich white kids, and I found 45 00:02:23,657 --> 00:02:26,697 Speaker 3: plenty of rich black kids, but the class, the middle 46 00:02:26,697 --> 00:02:29,017 Speaker 3: class whites. Those are the group. That's the group that's 47 00:02:29,177 --> 00:02:31,977 Speaker 3: totally missing. And I mean, I hope there are more 48 00:02:32,017 --> 00:02:34,777 Speaker 3: now because affirmative action is gone, but I'm not totally optimistic. 49 00:02:34,817 --> 00:02:37,697 Speaker 3: I think these administrations are going to find loopholes because 50 00:02:37,737 --> 00:02:41,057 Speaker 3: they're so dedicated to this religion of diversity. 51 00:02:41,297 --> 00:02:44,617 Speaker 1: So you think they're probably gonna keep the numbers of 52 00:02:44,817 --> 00:02:48,537 Speaker 1: preferred minority categories the same irrespective of this decision. 53 00:02:49,417 --> 00:02:52,817 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so, because you know, it's how it's 54 00:02:52,857 --> 00:02:55,017 Speaker 3: been for the past twenty years. And if they don't 55 00:02:55,057 --> 00:02:56,977 Speaker 3: do it, they'll be called racist. And you know, it's 56 00:02:56,977 --> 00:02:59,057 Speaker 3: so funny because the whole thing about affirmative action, and 57 00:02:59,097 --> 00:03:00,897 Speaker 3: I'm not the first one to say this, but you 58 00:03:00,937 --> 00:03:03,457 Speaker 3: know when they say, oh, you know, underprivileged people are 59 00:03:03,457 --> 00:03:05,977 Speaker 3: getting in, I have not met a single black kid 60 00:03:06,017 --> 00:03:08,217 Speaker 3: who's from like the ghetto or from the hood. These 61 00:03:08,257 --> 00:03:10,897 Speaker 3: black kids, they come from school as, they come from 62 00:03:10,897 --> 00:03:14,017 Speaker 3: boarding schools. They don't come from places where you know, 63 00:03:14,257 --> 00:03:16,577 Speaker 3: there really are underprivileged people. So the whole thing about 64 00:03:16,577 --> 00:03:18,777 Speaker 3: affirmative action is such a farce. But yeah, I think 65 00:03:18,777 --> 00:03:21,097 Speaker 3: you're just gonna do other things to keep the numbers 66 00:03:21,097 --> 00:03:21,457 Speaker 3: the same. 67 00:03:22,537 --> 00:03:27,017 Speaker 1: How is it to be a an out and about 68 00:03:27,177 --> 00:03:30,777 Speaker 1: conservative on the U Chicago campus these days. I mean, 69 00:03:30,817 --> 00:03:35,417 Speaker 1: I was a college Republican at Amherst up in Massachusetts 70 00:03:35,457 --> 00:03:39,377 Speaker 1: back in oh, god, now, early two thousands. So it's 71 00:03:39,417 --> 00:03:43,577 Speaker 1: been twenty years. So tell me, Daniel, what's it like 72 00:03:43,697 --> 00:03:46,217 Speaker 1: these days? I mean, are you do you feel like 73 00:03:46,337 --> 00:03:49,457 Speaker 1: you're empowered in some sense because at least now with 74 00:03:49,497 --> 00:03:52,017 Speaker 1: the Internet and with social media, you can share your 75 00:03:52,097 --> 00:03:54,937 Speaker 1: voice more freely. Or what kind of concerns do you have? 76 00:03:55,017 --> 00:03:56,937 Speaker 1: I mean, just what's it like bring us into the 77 00:03:57,337 --> 00:03:59,777 Speaker 1: life of a campus conservative in twenty twenty three. 78 00:04:00,977 --> 00:04:02,697 Speaker 3: Well, I'll give you a little bit of idea. So 79 00:04:02,897 --> 00:04:05,297 Speaker 3: the first month I started college, you know, I'm a 80 00:04:05,297 --> 00:04:08,457 Speaker 3: debate kid. I enjoy debate. I couldn't participate in a 81 00:04:08,457 --> 00:04:11,497 Speaker 3: debate tournament because I'm white. That's not a joke. This 82 00:04:11,977 --> 00:04:15,217 Speaker 3: debate tournament was only open to non white people. This 83 00:04:15,297 --> 00:04:17,737 Speaker 3: is my first month in college, and so I kind 84 00:04:17,737 --> 00:04:19,577 Speaker 3: of knew from that point, Okay, this is what the 85 00:04:19,617 --> 00:04:21,377 Speaker 3: next four years are going to look like. And I 86 00:04:21,417 --> 00:04:23,257 Speaker 3: had to do something about it. It had to speak up. 87 00:04:23,377 --> 00:04:26,497 Speaker 3: And you're exactly right. The Internet, Twitter, specifically has really 88 00:04:26,537 --> 00:04:29,817 Speaker 3: allowed this sort of new activism, journalism to happen. I 89 00:04:29,817 --> 00:04:31,857 Speaker 3: don't know what I would do twenty years ago if 90 00:04:31,897 --> 00:04:34,657 Speaker 3: the Internet didn't exist. I think I would who knows. 91 00:04:35,097 --> 00:04:36,897 Speaker 3: I will say this though, Funnily enough, you know a 92 00:04:36,897 --> 00:04:38,817 Speaker 3: lot of people expect me to be like, oh, you know, 93 00:04:39,137 --> 00:04:42,617 Speaker 3: I get attacked constantly, I get being up. Surprisingly, I've 94 00:04:42,697 --> 00:04:45,737 Speaker 3: never had a single negative interaction of someone. I don't 95 00:04:45,737 --> 00:04:47,217 Speaker 3: know if that's because they're scared of me or because 96 00:04:47,217 --> 00:04:49,537 Speaker 3: they just don't care. You know, tons of talking on 97 00:04:49,577 --> 00:04:52,977 Speaker 3: social media, tons of anonymous whispering, but I've never had 98 00:04:53,017 --> 00:04:55,217 Speaker 3: anyone come up to me and been like, oh, you're evil, 99 00:04:55,217 --> 00:04:57,857 Speaker 3: get out of here. So if any students are listening, 100 00:04:57,897 --> 00:05:00,217 Speaker 3: you might be surprised that if you start speaking up 101 00:05:00,217 --> 00:05:03,217 Speaker 3: and you're confident about it, you could actually get pretty far. 102 00:05:03,377 --> 00:05:06,097 Speaker 3: And you know, it's funny because literally last week, The 103 00:05:06,097 --> 00:05:08,097 Speaker 3: New York Times dropped like a hit piece on me, 104 00:05:08,177 --> 00:05:09,577 Speaker 3: and I kind of knew from that point, Okay, I 105 00:05:09,617 --> 00:05:12,017 Speaker 3: must be doing something. Okay if The New York Times 106 00:05:12,097 --> 00:05:14,097 Speaker 3: is going after me because I'm literally just a nineteen 107 00:05:14,177 --> 00:05:16,497 Speaker 3: year old kid, but yeah, yeah. 108 00:05:16,817 --> 00:05:19,097 Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, coody, you can't just skip over this. 109 00:05:19,137 --> 00:05:20,897 Speaker 1: Probably the New York Times has done hit pieces on 110 00:05:20,937 --> 00:05:23,337 Speaker 1: me too, my friends, so good job, welcome, welcome to 111 00:05:23,377 --> 00:05:26,017 Speaker 1: the club. But I guess they're supposed to with me. 112 00:05:26,257 --> 00:05:28,537 Speaker 1: I do a pretty big radio show, and some people 113 00:05:28,817 --> 00:05:30,817 Speaker 1: in the movement know who I am. With you, your 114 00:05:30,897 --> 00:05:32,897 Speaker 1: nineteen year old kid of me. You're already making splashes 115 00:05:32,897 --> 00:05:35,617 Speaker 1: here you are on this podcast. What were they doing 116 00:05:35,657 --> 00:05:38,137 Speaker 1: a hit piece on you? Though? Like? What did it say? 117 00:05:38,177 --> 00:05:39,017 Speaker 1: What have you been up to? 118 00:05:40,257 --> 00:05:40,577 Speaker 2: Yeah? 119 00:05:40,577 --> 00:05:43,017 Speaker 3: So this all started a few months ago when I 120 00:05:43,057 --> 00:05:45,537 Speaker 3: was registering for classes and I found this one class. 121 00:05:45,577 --> 00:05:48,297 Speaker 3: It was called the Problem of Whiteness. And you know, 122 00:05:48,377 --> 00:05:50,657 Speaker 3: as the title suggests, like what is this saying that 123 00:05:50,697 --> 00:05:53,537 Speaker 3: there's a problem with white people or whiteness and that 124 00:05:53,817 --> 00:05:56,737 Speaker 3: therefore there's a solution. I mean, can you imagine if 125 00:05:56,777 --> 00:05:59,377 Speaker 3: there were a class problem of blackness, problem with any noess? 126 00:05:59,417 --> 00:06:01,897 Speaker 3: I mean, it would be national outreach. So I saw 127 00:06:01,937 --> 00:06:04,417 Speaker 3: this class, and you know, I used my Twitter account 128 00:06:04,457 --> 00:06:06,937 Speaker 3: primarily to raise awareness of this stuff. So I wrote 129 00:06:06,937 --> 00:06:09,337 Speaker 3: a thread about the class. I included the course description, 130 00:06:09,497 --> 00:06:13,497 Speaker 3: which was calling whiteness like a problem with world making effects, 131 00:06:13,897 --> 00:06:16,697 Speaker 3: and I noted the professor teaching it because I think 132 00:06:16,737 --> 00:06:19,897 Speaker 3: it's cru sort to know who these people are. A 133 00:06:19,897 --> 00:06:22,817 Speaker 3: few days later, this professor is calling me a cyber terrorist. 134 00:06:23,017 --> 00:06:26,097 Speaker 3: She's saying my tweets may encourage an armed school shooter, 135 00:06:26,737 --> 00:06:29,737 Speaker 3: and she is demanding my school expel me. She filed 136 00:06:29,777 --> 00:06:32,977 Speaker 3: two separate complaints to get me expelled, saying I basically 137 00:06:33,097 --> 00:06:36,337 Speaker 3: led some national harassment campaign against her. So that was 138 00:06:36,377 --> 00:06:38,697 Speaker 3: all in the span of a few months. Things are quiet, 139 00:06:38,737 --> 00:06:41,177 Speaker 3: and then go back just a few weeks ago, or 140 00:06:41,177 --> 00:06:43,417 Speaker 3: actually two weeks ago, and out of nowhere, the New 141 00:06:43,457 --> 00:06:45,617 Speaker 3: York Times dropped this article about me. They're calling me 142 00:06:45,657 --> 00:06:49,417 Speaker 3: an instigator. They're basically criticizing my school, you Chicago, They're 143 00:06:49,417 --> 00:06:51,977 Speaker 3: saying they should have punished me. And then just a 144 00:06:51,977 --> 00:06:55,097 Speaker 3: few days after that, CNN drops an article written by 145 00:06:55,137 --> 00:06:59,217 Speaker 3: some Obama spokesperson, former Obama spokesperson. She's saying I bully 146 00:06:59,297 --> 00:07:02,097 Speaker 3: people in the silence. She's saying I should be expelled. 147 00:07:02,137 --> 00:07:05,057 Speaker 3: I mean, it really is a national thing. So I 148 00:07:05,097 --> 00:07:07,857 Speaker 3: was totally surprised by that, but I guess it means 149 00:07:07,857 --> 00:07:09,017 Speaker 3: I must be doing something right. 150 00:07:09,097 --> 00:07:11,457 Speaker 2: And this professor has just going after me NonStop. 151 00:07:12,217 --> 00:07:14,897 Speaker 1: So you still have interactions with the professor. 152 00:07:15,417 --> 00:07:16,297 Speaker 2: No, fortunately not. 153 00:07:16,337 --> 00:07:17,737 Speaker 3: I'm a little scared because I don't want to be 154 00:07:17,737 --> 00:07:20,217 Speaker 3: accused of stalking or get a restrained order. 155 00:07:20,537 --> 00:07:24,377 Speaker 2: Yeah you're smart, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 156 00:07:24,217 --> 00:07:26,457 Speaker 1: You got you gotta. You always got to assume that 157 00:07:26,497 --> 00:07:30,457 Speaker 1: the left. You can't even give any any daylight, any 158 00:07:30,537 --> 00:07:33,417 Speaker 1: opening for them to do something nefarious, because I can 159 00:07:33,457 --> 00:07:35,737 Speaker 1: assure you, Daniel, you know, I've got twenty years of 160 00:07:35,777 --> 00:07:40,417 Speaker 1: experience dealing with this and they will, right, So if 161 00:07:40,417 --> 00:07:42,697 Speaker 1: you open the door, they will. I want to come 162 00:07:42,737 --> 00:07:45,137 Speaker 1: back here in a second. I did you actually take 163 00:07:45,177 --> 00:07:47,977 Speaker 1: any of the classes in the Problem with Whiteness or 164 00:07:48,017 --> 00:07:49,697 Speaker 1: do you just see the class description? Like did you 165 00:07:49,697 --> 00:07:50,777 Speaker 1: show up an audit one? 166 00:07:51,857 --> 00:07:52,617 Speaker 2: Well, I was. 167 00:07:52,577 --> 00:07:55,817 Speaker 3: Going to, but then the class temp actually got temporarily 168 00:07:55,857 --> 00:07:58,817 Speaker 3: postponed because I guess she got so many negative emails. 169 00:07:58,857 --> 00:08:02,337 Speaker 3: She got scared. She demanded increase policing, she demanded this 170 00:08:02,377 --> 00:08:04,857 Speaker 3: whole thing. And when the class was later taught in 171 00:08:04,897 --> 00:08:06,577 Speaker 3: the spring, there was no way I'm gonna. I just 172 00:08:06,577 --> 00:08:08,497 Speaker 3: didn't feel safe taking this class, Like is she going. 173 00:08:08,457 --> 00:08:10,817 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course at that point. Yeah, I'd just be 174 00:08:10,857 --> 00:08:13,697 Speaker 1: so curious. I'd be so curious to see it. I 175 00:08:13,737 --> 00:08:17,617 Speaker 1: did take just so you know. It was gosh. Two 176 00:08:17,657 --> 00:08:22,337 Speaker 1: thousand and three, I took a class in sociology, which is, 177 00:08:22,577 --> 00:08:27,337 Speaker 1: you know, you're already dealing with sociology right, the American Right, 178 00:08:27,457 --> 00:08:30,057 Speaker 1: it was called, and there were three conservatives in a 179 00:08:30,097 --> 00:08:32,417 Speaker 1: class with I don't know, forty students in it or something, 180 00:08:32,937 --> 00:08:36,257 Speaker 1: and it was the biggest caricature you'll be You'll not 181 00:08:36,377 --> 00:08:38,977 Speaker 1: be shocked at all to know that the American Right 182 00:08:39,137 --> 00:08:43,577 Speaker 1: in this Amherst College course was just about ignorance, racism, 183 00:08:43,617 --> 00:08:46,977 Speaker 1: and sexism. That's it, That is the America. I was like, oh, wow, okay, 184 00:08:47,537 --> 00:08:48,977 Speaker 1: that's that's a really, that's a really. 185 00:08:49,617 --> 00:08:51,537 Speaker 3: I mean that was before Trump. When Trump came, I 186 00:08:51,537 --> 00:08:54,057 Speaker 3: mean that totally changed everything. Now it's all about him 187 00:08:54,097 --> 00:08:56,297 Speaker 3: and how he's racist, evil, So it's even worse now. 188 00:08:56,337 --> 00:08:57,217 Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm not surprised. 189 00:08:57,377 --> 00:09:00,377 Speaker 1: Let's let's I want to get to gender gender identity 190 00:09:00,417 --> 00:09:02,177 Speaker 1: politics on campus and you can tell us some of 191 00:09:02,217 --> 00:09:04,697 Speaker 1: the stories about that in a second. We'll get back 192 00:09:04,737 --> 00:09:06,937 Speaker 1: to it. But first off, how's for everybody at home, 193 00:09:06,977 --> 00:09:09,457 Speaker 1: how's your energy level these days? 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So you know, 222 00:10:30,497 --> 00:10:32,697 Speaker 3: it's been a rule for me never. I've never said 223 00:10:32,737 --> 00:10:34,617 Speaker 3: anything like that so far, and I knew my first 224 00:10:34,697 --> 00:10:36,617 Speaker 3: day going in everyone's already looking at me when I 225 00:10:36,617 --> 00:10:39,097 Speaker 3: just say hey, my name's Daniel, and then there's silence afterward. 226 00:10:39,137 --> 00:10:41,457 Speaker 3: They expected me to say whatever. So yeah, no, that's 227 00:10:41,497 --> 00:10:44,937 Speaker 3: totally mandatory. And another thing that's just totally crazy that 228 00:10:45,057 --> 00:10:48,257 Speaker 3: your listeners may be surprised by is these debate tournaments. 229 00:10:48,257 --> 00:10:50,937 Speaker 3: I mentioned earlier how I couldn't participate in one because 230 00:10:50,977 --> 00:10:53,297 Speaker 3: I'm white. It's not just that at the beginning of 231 00:10:53,377 --> 00:10:55,737 Speaker 3: every round you have to say trigger warnings and if 232 00:10:55,737 --> 00:10:59,537 Speaker 3: you don't you can actually lose around. I almost lost around. 233 00:10:59,897 --> 00:11:01,657 Speaker 3: I don't do debate anymore because it's a joke. But 234 00:11:01,697 --> 00:11:03,857 Speaker 3: when I was doing it initially, I almost lost the round. 235 00:11:03,937 --> 00:11:05,897 Speaker 3: We were talking about like the Korean War or something 236 00:11:06,177 --> 00:11:09,057 Speaker 3: I didn't give a trigger warning for, like war casualties, 237 00:11:09,097 --> 00:11:12,217 Speaker 3: death destruction, and they SAIDY almost lost, So I mean, 238 00:11:12,217 --> 00:11:14,417 Speaker 3: it is totally you know, you hear these stories and 239 00:11:14,457 --> 00:11:15,897 Speaker 3: you assume it's exaggerated. 240 00:11:15,897 --> 00:11:17,537 Speaker 2: It's not. It's really as bad as it seems. 241 00:11:17,617 --> 00:11:22,017 Speaker 1: Wait, so it's it's mandatory to give a trigger warning 242 00:11:22,297 --> 00:11:25,817 Speaker 1: in college debate. Now you and if you don't, you 243 00:11:25,817 --> 00:11:26,657 Speaker 1: get puts off. 244 00:11:27,217 --> 00:11:29,377 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you can lose the round because you know 245 00:11:29,537 --> 00:11:33,017 Speaker 3: you're doing harm to people. It's I'm not exaggering about that. 246 00:11:33,057 --> 00:11:33,897 Speaker 3: It's actually insane. 247 00:11:34,617 --> 00:11:37,257 Speaker 1: I did. I did high school debate for a little bit, 248 00:11:37,417 --> 00:11:39,537 Speaker 1: and and even then I felt like it was always 249 00:11:39,697 --> 00:11:43,297 Speaker 1: very politicized, like if you were arguing, you'd have to 250 00:11:43,377 --> 00:11:45,537 Speaker 1: argue both sides that right, was Lincoln Douglas style debate. 251 00:11:45,937 --> 00:11:49,097 Speaker 1: But if they got the sense that you I'm telling you, 252 00:11:49,097 --> 00:11:51,137 Speaker 1: if they got the sense of your politics, the judges 253 00:11:51,217 --> 00:11:54,377 Speaker 1: you were, you were in bad shape, bad shape usually. 254 00:11:54,417 --> 00:11:56,457 Speaker 1: So the gender politics stuff, do you have a lot 255 00:11:56,497 --> 00:12:01,417 Speaker 1: of conversations on campus about, you know, should the transgender 256 00:12:01,457 --> 00:12:04,057 Speaker 1: students use these bathrooms, those bathrooms, et cetera. You know 257 00:12:04,097 --> 00:12:04,457 Speaker 1: what I mean? 258 00:12:05,737 --> 00:12:09,457 Speaker 3: Yeah, let me think not really, you know, uh, we 259 00:12:09,577 --> 00:12:10,937 Speaker 3: have frat, we have sororities. 260 00:12:10,937 --> 00:12:13,097 Speaker 2: I haven't heard much about women trying to join or 261 00:12:13,257 --> 00:12:13,697 Speaker 2: that's in that. 262 00:12:13,897 --> 00:12:16,617 Speaker 3: Not really, I'm trying to think you know my schools, 263 00:12:16,617 --> 00:12:17,857 Speaker 3: and I will say this, My school is like a 264 00:12:17,937 --> 00:12:18,697 Speaker 3: very nerdy school. 265 00:12:18,697 --> 00:12:20,097 Speaker 2: We're kind of known for like the nerdiness. 266 00:12:20,137 --> 00:12:22,977 Speaker 3: So it is relatively apolitical, which I think is probably 267 00:12:23,017 --> 00:12:24,697 Speaker 3: the reason why I have succeeded so much. I think 268 00:12:24,737 --> 00:12:26,977 Speaker 3: if I went to like Yale or UC Berkeley, I 269 00:12:27,017 --> 00:12:29,097 Speaker 3: would probably have been kicked out by now. So I 270 00:12:29,097 --> 00:12:30,697 Speaker 3: do have to give credits to my school. But it's 271 00:12:30,737 --> 00:12:32,337 Speaker 3: been pretty common that aspect. 272 00:12:32,577 --> 00:12:34,977 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, look that's a good thing. Sounds like you 273 00:12:35,057 --> 00:12:37,897 Speaker 1: found a place where I mean, I say Amherst. When 274 00:12:37,897 --> 00:12:41,577 Speaker 1: people would show up, it's all it was all Patagonia 275 00:12:41,657 --> 00:12:45,657 Speaker 1: fleeces and people wearing sweats and playing soccer in the quad. 276 00:12:46,137 --> 00:12:48,177 Speaker 1: And then when the parents would drop their kids off 277 00:12:48,177 --> 00:12:51,377 Speaker 1: and go, it just turned into a Marxist indoctrination factory. 278 00:12:51,417 --> 00:12:54,457 Speaker 1: Like everyone just all the professors. 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You sound to me like you're an 316 00:14:44,497 --> 00:14:45,177 Speaker 1: East Coast guy. 317 00:14:46,017 --> 00:14:46,537 Speaker 2: That's funny. 318 00:14:46,537 --> 00:14:48,577 Speaker 3: I'm actually I'm actually from Tennessee, from just like a 319 00:14:48,697 --> 00:14:49,617 Speaker 3: totally normal town. 320 00:14:49,737 --> 00:14:52,697 Speaker 1: So no, well you're like my co host Clay, who's 321 00:14:52,697 --> 00:14:57,617 Speaker 1: from Nashville and does not has no Southern accident whatsoever. None. Right, yeah, 322 00:14:57,777 --> 00:15:00,937 Speaker 1: that's so, So how'd you get into all this? Like, 323 00:15:01,057 --> 00:15:04,297 Speaker 1: you know, you're you're a young guy. You're doing media, 324 00:15:04,377 --> 00:15:06,297 Speaker 1: you know here you are. I mean, gosh, I was 325 00:15:06,337 --> 00:15:08,937 Speaker 1: just trying to show up on time for my crappy 326 00:15:09,017 --> 00:15:11,057 Speaker 1: sociology class when I was your age. So how'd you 327 00:15:11,057 --> 00:15:11,617 Speaker 1: get into it? 328 00:15:12,657 --> 00:15:12,857 Speaker 2: Well? 329 00:15:12,857 --> 00:15:14,817 Speaker 3: Listen, I mean I didn't have any grand plans. I 330 00:15:14,857 --> 00:15:17,617 Speaker 3: still don't have some grand strategy. I kind of just 331 00:15:17,737 --> 00:15:19,537 Speaker 3: you know, I call out what I think is wrong 332 00:15:19,577 --> 00:15:21,457 Speaker 3: and I defend what I think is true. That's kind 333 00:15:21,457 --> 00:15:23,777 Speaker 3: of been my guiding motto. And I started it when 334 00:15:23,777 --> 00:15:25,657 Speaker 3: I when I got into college, and I've had a 335 00:15:25,657 --> 00:15:28,657 Speaker 3: lot of success. And you know, you mentioned Tucker Carls 336 00:15:28,657 --> 00:15:31,337 Speaker 3: and he reached out to me after I asked a 337 00:15:31,457 --> 00:15:33,217 Speaker 3: question to an Applebaum. 338 00:15:33,257 --> 00:15:35,097 Speaker 2: I don't know if you're familiar for this. You know, 339 00:15:35,257 --> 00:15:37,657 Speaker 2: total lib journalist. 340 00:15:37,697 --> 00:15:39,657 Speaker 3: She came to my school and I asked her about 341 00:15:39,697 --> 00:15:43,337 Speaker 3: Hunter Biden's laptop and her answer was like totally ridiculous. 342 00:15:43,457 --> 00:15:45,257 Speaker 3: And the video clip got a lot of views, and 343 00:15:45,337 --> 00:15:46,137 Speaker 3: I guess you saw it. 344 00:15:46,217 --> 00:15:48,857 Speaker 1: I remember that. That's right. I should have endewed that. 345 00:15:49,097 --> 00:15:52,057 Speaker 1: My friend. You had a viral moment just by asking. 346 00:15:52,577 --> 00:15:56,937 Speaker 1: She's a historian slash lib who's written a lot of 347 00:15:56,937 --> 00:16:00,937 Speaker 1: books about the Soviet Union and Ukraine, things like that. Stalin, 348 00:16:01,457 --> 00:16:03,977 Speaker 1: and you asked about the Hunter Biden laptop at some 349 00:16:04,137 --> 00:16:05,817 Speaker 1: form of Chicago and what did she say? 350 00:16:06,857 --> 00:16:08,937 Speaker 3: Her answer was just literally like I don't care, Like 351 00:16:09,017 --> 00:16:12,377 Speaker 3: that was totally here answer. And even the kids in 352 00:16:12,417 --> 00:16:14,177 Speaker 3: the audience were looking at me like, what the heck 353 00:16:14,217 --> 00:16:15,897 Speaker 3: did you just say? I mean, this was the biggest 354 00:16:15,897 --> 00:16:17,777 Speaker 3: story of the time. I asked her, I said, do 355 00:16:17,817 --> 00:16:19,897 Speaker 3: you think it was wrong that you claimed the story 356 00:16:20,017 --> 00:16:22,297 Speaker 3: was rushing? This info turned out to be true. The 357 00:16:22,297 --> 00:16:24,697 Speaker 3: New York Times confirmed that her answer was I don't care, 358 00:16:25,057 --> 00:16:27,457 Speaker 3: and I you know, just the arrogance was just totally insane. 359 00:16:27,497 --> 00:16:30,297 Speaker 3: Even David Axelrod, you know, Obama's chief strategist, was sitting 360 00:16:30,297 --> 00:16:30,657 Speaker 3: next there. 361 00:16:30,817 --> 00:16:32,377 Speaker 2: He couldn't believe it. He's like, Okay, well, need to 362 00:16:32,377 --> 00:16:33,057 Speaker 2: shut it down now. 363 00:16:33,417 --> 00:16:37,217 Speaker 3: So but but listen, even that example and out the examples. 364 00:16:37,297 --> 00:16:39,377 Speaker 3: I didn't even know that it was going to be recorded. 365 00:16:39,417 --> 00:16:41,217 Speaker 3: I didn't have any grand plans going in. I just 366 00:16:41,217 --> 00:16:42,817 Speaker 3: did it because I got the mic and I was like, 367 00:16:42,897 --> 00:16:44,977 Speaker 3: let me ask her this stuff. So, you know what 368 00:16:45,057 --> 00:16:46,617 Speaker 3: I want to achieve in the next two years I'm 369 00:16:46,617 --> 00:16:48,937 Speaker 3: in college. It's not it's not fame or anything like that. 370 00:16:49,217 --> 00:16:51,897 Speaker 3: I just want to inspire other students to speak up 371 00:16:51,937 --> 00:16:54,617 Speaker 3: to do something about it. Because I come from a 372 00:16:54,657 --> 00:16:57,377 Speaker 3: single mother household. I don't come from any extraordinary backgrounds, 373 00:16:57,617 --> 00:16:59,177 Speaker 3: and I've just been doing this and I've you know, 374 00:16:59,217 --> 00:17:01,097 Speaker 3: now New York Times, I guess is attacking me, so 375 00:17:01,137 --> 00:17:03,097 Speaker 3: I must be doing something right. So there are any 376 00:17:03,137 --> 00:17:05,537 Speaker 3: other students listening in or just you know, hear about me, 377 00:17:05,697 --> 00:17:07,617 Speaker 3: all I want to do is inspire them, show that 378 00:17:07,657 --> 00:17:10,177 Speaker 3: you can actually achieve more than you think. And you 379 00:17:10,217 --> 00:17:12,137 Speaker 3: know I've had you know, there is this policy on 380 00:17:12,217 --> 00:17:15,217 Speaker 3: my school that banned unvaccinated students from dining halls. I 381 00:17:15,297 --> 00:17:18,337 Speaker 3: pressed my administration. They reversed it. So just small things 382 00:17:18,377 --> 00:17:20,257 Speaker 3: like that, you can actually make a bigger difference than 383 00:17:20,257 --> 00:17:23,257 Speaker 3: you think, and you can also inspire other students around you, 384 00:17:23,297 --> 00:17:25,377 Speaker 3: and before you know it, there's this like cascading effect 385 00:17:25,417 --> 00:17:28,057 Speaker 3: where you actually may be surprised how many kids agree 386 00:17:28,097 --> 00:17:29,897 Speaker 3: with you. So that's been my main goal is just 387 00:17:29,937 --> 00:17:33,017 Speaker 3: sort of to inspire. But yeah, the Tucker interview was phenomenal. 388 00:17:33,697 --> 00:17:35,817 Speaker 3: I'm blessed to have that opportunity. 389 00:17:35,857 --> 00:17:39,497 Speaker 1: Have you had professors, even if just quietly and in 390 00:17:39,577 --> 00:17:42,657 Speaker 1: back channel, reach out to you to support you and 391 00:17:42,697 --> 00:17:47,417 Speaker 1: say they appreciate what you're doing. Have you been surprised 392 00:17:47,457 --> 00:17:49,497 Speaker 1: at some of the support you've received from people in 393 00:17:49,537 --> 00:17:52,737 Speaker 1: the administration, not publicly, but just to let you know 394 00:17:52,777 --> 00:17:56,017 Speaker 1: that they think that you're taking an ethical approach, et cetera. 395 00:17:56,977 --> 00:17:59,577 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have had a few professors. Actually a professor 396 00:17:59,577 --> 00:18:02,337 Speaker 3: I had last quarter, I had no idea. He liked me, 397 00:18:02,417 --> 00:18:04,537 Speaker 3: and then in the last day of class he was like, hey, 398 00:18:04,577 --> 00:18:06,017 Speaker 3: I love what do you do it with that problem 399 00:18:06,017 --> 00:18:08,497 Speaker 3: of whiteness class? I was like, really, I mean so again, 400 00:18:08,537 --> 00:18:10,177 Speaker 3: I just want to stress, like you never know, well, 401 00:18:10,497 --> 00:18:12,297 Speaker 3: like a lot of you know, there's this idea that 402 00:18:12,337 --> 00:18:15,617 Speaker 3: these universities are just totally liberal dominated, and of course 403 00:18:15,657 --> 00:18:17,177 Speaker 3: they are, but I think we've gotten to a point 404 00:18:17,177 --> 00:18:20,417 Speaker 3: where it's so extreme that more and more kids are 405 00:18:20,457 --> 00:18:22,297 Speaker 3: saying enough is enough. And if you take a stand, 406 00:18:22,297 --> 00:18:25,257 Speaker 3: you'd be surprised how many professors, students, etc. 407 00:18:25,657 --> 00:18:26,937 Speaker 2: Are actually wanting to agree with you. 408 00:18:28,217 --> 00:18:30,457 Speaker 1: Ask you some gen Z questions we get back, just 409 00:18:30,497 --> 00:18:32,097 Speaker 1: so I you know, so I'm up to speed on 410 00:18:32,137 --> 00:18:34,977 Speaker 1: these things. You're going to be my gen Z correspondent, Like, 411 00:18:35,017 --> 00:18:36,817 Speaker 1: is it really true that all of you guys and 412 00:18:37,337 --> 00:18:41,257 Speaker 1: girls get your news from YouTube and TikTok Now? But 413 00:18:41,337 --> 00:18:44,017 Speaker 1: I'm going to hold off on that for one second. Daniel. 414 00:18:44,617 --> 00:18:46,777 Speaker 1: The value of for life savings and retirement accounts is 415 00:18:46,777 --> 00:18:49,297 Speaker 1: dependent in part on our stock market. Take into account 416 00:18:49,297 --> 00:18:51,977 Speaker 1: what effects our stock market's performance, and ask yourself, do 417 00:18:51,977 --> 00:18:53,937 Speaker 1: you really want to put all your marbles in one basket. 418 00:18:54,057 --> 00:18:56,577 Speaker 1: It's just not wise. All it takes is volatility, and 419 00:18:56,657 --> 00:18:59,657 Speaker 1: all of a sudden your market can show your accounts 420 00:18:59,657 --> 00:19:02,177 Speaker 1: are way down. It makes the premise of owning gold 421 00:19:02,257 --> 00:19:06,297 Speaker 1: right now, this time in history, smart gold has both 422 00:19:06,337 --> 00:19:08,777 Speaker 1: an investment and a hedge against inflation. Makes a lot 423 00:19:08,817 --> 00:19:11,897 Speaker 1: of sense. So is my precious metals vendor of choice, 424 00:19:11,897 --> 00:19:13,937 Speaker 1: the Oxford Gold Group. I've been buying gold from them 425 00:19:14,417 --> 00:19:17,617 Speaker 1: for years and my gold holdings have done very well 426 00:19:17,617 --> 00:19:21,617 Speaker 1: for me. I've got them here in person physically possession 427 00:19:21,657 --> 00:19:23,817 Speaker 1: of gold and silver. I've got coins, I've got bars, 428 00:19:24,337 --> 00:19:26,177 Speaker 1: So why not have some gold and silver on hand? 429 00:19:26,617 --> 00:19:28,537 Speaker 1: Call the Oxford Gold Group. It's who I use to, 430 00:19:28,537 --> 00:19:30,417 Speaker 1: who I trust. The calls free. The people on the 431 00:19:30,417 --> 00:19:33,577 Speaker 1: receiving end of your call are knowledgeable and trustworthy. Eight 432 00:19:33,657 --> 00:19:37,577 Speaker 1: three three four three zero buck eight three three four 433 00:19:37,737 --> 00:19:46,577 Speaker 1: three zero b U c K. Tell me about Like, 434 00:19:46,857 --> 00:19:50,137 Speaker 1: do you watch mister beast? Is that is he like? 435 00:19:50,217 --> 00:19:52,017 Speaker 1: As this is going on YouTube and there are people 436 00:19:52,017 --> 00:19:54,577 Speaker 1: on YouTube that I see they've I'm told they've got 437 00:19:54,657 --> 00:19:57,817 Speaker 1: like a billion followers or something. Crazy, and I'm like, 438 00:19:57,857 --> 00:20:00,537 Speaker 1: I don't even know. Is it really YouTube and TikTok 439 00:20:00,537 --> 00:20:03,257 Speaker 1: that just totally dominate the younger generation now, so like 440 00:20:03,337 --> 00:20:06,057 Speaker 1: eighteen to eighteen to thirty basically, are you guys all 441 00:20:06,137 --> 00:20:07,617 Speaker 1: just YouTube and TikTok all the time? 442 00:20:09,057 --> 00:20:12,297 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say it's actually TikTok. You know the 443 00:20:12,337 --> 00:20:13,937 Speaker 3: app is. I mean, it's the number one app in 444 00:20:13,977 --> 00:20:15,737 Speaker 3: the world. I think it has more trafficked than Google 445 00:20:15,857 --> 00:20:18,417 Speaker 3: now if and I'm mistaken, So yeah, I mean it's 446 00:20:18,417 --> 00:20:21,937 Speaker 3: really interesting because pretty much everyone my age is on TikTok. 447 00:20:22,057 --> 00:20:25,297 Speaker 3: But I would say only maybe twenty to thirty percent 448 00:20:25,337 --> 00:20:27,617 Speaker 3: of people my age are on Twitter, So I think 449 00:20:27,657 --> 00:20:29,777 Speaker 3: Twitter is more for like the older crowd, the more 450 00:20:29,897 --> 00:20:31,897 Speaker 3: educated crowd, if you are the people who really care 451 00:20:31,937 --> 00:20:35,697 Speaker 3: about politics. But pretty much everyone my age is on TikTok, 452 00:20:35,737 --> 00:20:38,297 Speaker 3: which is why super influential app. And if you have 453 00:20:38,377 --> 00:20:40,977 Speaker 3: China involved, if you have these people pushing this stuff, 454 00:20:41,297 --> 00:20:43,977 Speaker 3: you can you can influence the youth incredibly on TikTok, 455 00:20:44,017 --> 00:20:46,897 Speaker 3: whereas Twitter, it's it's less on the youth and more 456 00:20:46,937 --> 00:20:49,737 Speaker 3: on you know, political people and more older crowd, So 457 00:20:49,817 --> 00:20:51,577 Speaker 3: you're gonna get TikTok growing. 458 00:20:51,377 --> 00:20:53,337 Speaker 1: App Are you going to get into politics? Do you think 459 00:20:53,377 --> 00:20:54,937 Speaker 1: when you graduate? I know you've got a couple of years. 460 00:20:54,977 --> 00:20:55,537 Speaker 1: Is that the plan? 461 00:20:56,977 --> 00:20:59,137 Speaker 3: You know? The way I see it is, I don't 462 00:20:59,137 --> 00:21:01,417 Speaker 3: want to, like, if if I have a calling, I'll 463 00:21:01,417 --> 00:21:03,057 Speaker 3: get into politics. I think the problem now is so 464 00:21:03,137 --> 00:21:05,617 Speaker 3: many people just get into politics, you know, just for 465 00:21:05,657 --> 00:21:07,977 Speaker 3: the fun of it or just because you know fame. 466 00:21:08,137 --> 00:21:09,737 Speaker 3: But you know, I think one of the things I 467 00:21:09,737 --> 00:21:12,617 Speaker 3: grew up with the Founding Fathers is only getting the politics. 468 00:21:12,657 --> 00:21:13,577 Speaker 2: I feel like you need to. 469 00:21:14,177 --> 00:21:16,057 Speaker 3: So if I get a calling, maybe, But I'm more 470 00:21:16,097 --> 00:21:18,937 Speaker 3: interested in journalism, activism. I think that's where the real 471 00:21:18,977 --> 00:21:21,497 Speaker 3: power is now is in media. I think you can 472 00:21:21,537 --> 00:21:23,257 Speaker 3: really have you know, you can call it. The powerful 473 00:21:23,257 --> 00:21:23,897 Speaker 3: people are there. 474 00:21:25,017 --> 00:21:28,337 Speaker 1: Daniel Schmid, Daniel worship. People go to follow you, keep 475 00:21:28,417 --> 00:21:29,737 Speaker 1: up with your work, all that stuff. 476 00:21:30,537 --> 00:21:32,257 Speaker 2: Sure, so you can see me on Twitter. 477 00:21:32,297 --> 00:21:35,697 Speaker 3: That's where I post my activism, journalism, that sort of stuff. 478 00:21:35,737 --> 00:21:39,177 Speaker 3: It's at real d Schmidt. That's the word real, the 479 00:21:39,257 --> 00:21:42,697 Speaker 3: letter D and then s c h M my DT. 480 00:21:43,217 --> 00:21:44,777 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. 481 00:21:44,937 --> 00:21:46,257 Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us. Everybody