1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Because he's getting able to talk and resonate with the audience. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: It's more of a connection. 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 2: It used to be. 4 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Social media used to be like a show off type 5 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: of thing, but now social media is getting back to 6 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: what it needs to be, being social, talking to the camera, 7 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: to that one person, face to face. And that's why 8 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: he's growing way faster than me. I avoid the camera 9 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: through my edits and my tricks and stuff like that, 10 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: but I know that if I started getting into the 11 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: camera more where it's more face to face, I will 12 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: see more growth and more resonation with my brand. 13 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 3: Everybody've hooked another episode of butter Nomics. I'm the host, 14 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 3: Brandon Butler, founda CEO butter ATL and today got somebody 15 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 3: special in the building. My man, the one and only 16 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 3: mister Jarvis, George Jarvis vives at ATL. How you doing, bro, 17 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 3: I'm going, good man? How you If I was any better, 18 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 3: I'd be you brother. 19 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. That was life treating you. 20 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: Everything good man, Everything keep going. 21 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: So I'm blessed us to have the to be in 22 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 1: a position and I'm man, so everything good on my end. 23 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:00,639 Speaker 4: It's dope. Man. 24 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 3: Well, look, man, you know you're one of the biggest 25 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 3: content creators here in Atlanta. I'm definitely a fan of 26 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 3: your work. That's why I've reached out in the past. 27 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 3: We've done stuff you put up to the creators, a 28 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 3: color conference that stayed farm, all these other things. 29 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 4: And man, look, bro, you're killing it on social media. 30 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 3: Dog, you out here killing it, and you're also doing 31 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 3: this thing at a level I don't think a lot 32 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 3: of people are doing that. So that's why I feel 33 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 3: like this'd be a good conversation to have you in on. 34 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 4: Brother. 35 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: No, I appreciate you having me on. 36 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,559 Speaker 3: So for those that don't know, man, who is Jarvis Georgie? 37 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 3: Somebody had to ask you who you are, what you do? 38 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 3: What is vibes and atl How would you describe it? 39 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: I'm a Navy veteran turn content creator. I'm an MBA 40 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: dropout that just likes to have fun. I like to 41 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: make money, and I like to make money with my 42 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: friends while I'm doing it. Oh, I also like to 43 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: make an impact. So just a regular guy that just 44 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: likes to enjoy himself, enjoy the things that he do 45 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: and just take things one day at a time. 46 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 3: Oh for sure, man, for sure. Man, So how did 47 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: you start your brand, How did you get How did 48 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: Vibes and atl get started? 49 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: All? 50 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: Right, So the crazy backstory behind this. I graduated from 51 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: UCF in twenty twenty. Right before I graduated, was in 52 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: the military. After I got out of the military, I 53 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: went to UCF, went to school for business. I did 54 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: everything right now I was supposed to do slow route. 55 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: When I graduated, literally all the businesses shut down. Nobody 56 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: was really hiring the biggest jobs you can get in 57 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: Orlando when you graduate UCF or Universal, Disney, Lockey Martin 58 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: and all of them were reducing staff. 59 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: It wasn't a lot of people hiring during COVID. Right, 60 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 2: this is during COVID. 61 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: So when COVID happened, you know, we had the lockdowns, 62 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: I had time to really just like sit down and 63 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: sit still for a second. One of the big things 64 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: I was going off with social media YouTube. You're starting 65 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: to see a lot more people make content. It started 66 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: to become like a creative boom. So for me, during 67 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: those times I was in lockdown, Like I won't say 68 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: like those three months, I want to say, I was 69 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: trying to look for the next city that would help 70 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: me from my financial career. As well as just where 71 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: I would love, like I wanted to be in the 72 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: city where I would love to be there every single day. Yeah, 73 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: like if I wanted to take a vacation, I didn't 74 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: need to because I love the city that I'm in. 75 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: So my top cities were Washington, DC Atlanta, And what 76 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: was my thing really It was just those two Washington, 77 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: DC and Atlanta. So when I didn't get into grad 78 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: school in Washington, DC, I got into grad school last 79 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: minute for Georgia State. And mind you, me, being a veteran, 80 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: when I go to grad school since nobody's hiring, that's 81 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: my way I can get money with my GI bill, 82 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: you know, they'll pay you to go to school. 83 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: That was giving me like a little bit of. 84 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: Leeway to, you know, still try to figure things out 85 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: while the tragedy's happening with COVID and everybody's not hiring 86 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: and stuff. So ended up moving to Atlanta. Got into 87 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 1: Georgia State super last minute, and when I got here, 88 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: I just told myself, I was like, man, you were 89 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: in the city where it's just like I'm not saying 90 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: it's easier to blow up here, but from what I saw, 91 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: it was like there's a strategy that you can do 92 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: and you can blow up big in Atlanta. So for me, 93 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: it was just like, Okay, you've had Instagram for years 94 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: on end when you were on lockdown, You've seen people 95 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: fifty years old, thirty years old, twenty one years old 96 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: make money from social media. You literally saw it in 97 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: that time and watch them on a day. What would 98 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: happen when you moved to this new city and you 99 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: was more intentional with social media? Like, what would happen 100 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: like if you ever tried it? That's what I was 101 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: thinking to myself, So I actually like just tried it. 102 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: So as soon as I moved here, everything wasn't together 103 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: for me. I had to get a roommate off Facebook marketplace, 104 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: I got enrolled into grad school, I got rolled into 105 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: my classes, I got my basis for like just exploring 106 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: the city and stuff like that. But once I started 107 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: to save money, I was able to get my apartment. 108 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: As soon as I got my new apartment, that's when 109 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: I started making content and just being consistent with it, 110 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: and literally it was like everything that I loved about Atlanta, 111 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: Like I literally was trying to figure out like what 112 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: my niche would be, and a lot of people said, 113 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: your niche is anything that you genuinely just. 114 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: Enjoy and you don't really you would never get tired 115 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 2: of it. 116 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: The reason I moved to Atlanta is because when I 117 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: get off of work at five o'clock, I got a 118 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: lounge I can go to that can make me feel 119 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: like I'm at a club on a Tuesday. I got 120 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: mallains that I can go to and make me feel 121 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: like I'm on a vacation on a random Wednesday. I 122 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,679 Speaker 1: got Creaks, I got good Weather, I got four seasons, 123 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: and as somebody from Florida, it's something different from me. 124 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: It's all a whole different experience. Every season is different 125 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: from me because I'm used to being hot, humid, not 126 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: a lot going on, not a lot of people look 127 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: like me. But Atlanta was just like my playground. So 128 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: when I moved here, I just want to just keep filming, 129 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: keep recorded, really just documented my experiences. But then it 130 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: got to the point where I'm going into grad school, 131 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: I'm taking these classes, and I'm starting to see, like 132 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: the the ways I can make money from it. So 133 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: one of the craziest things that happened to me was 134 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: I got hit up by his restaurant and this is 135 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: like my first time. They were like, yo, we really 136 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: love your videos. We see what you're doing. I think 137 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm about like two months in being consistent. They're like, 138 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: we want to pay you to go to come here 139 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: and get some food. I'm like, wait, y'all want to 140 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: pay me to get some food? Like y'all don't want 141 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: to just y'all. Y'all gonna give me food and then 142 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna pay me as well. I think at the 143 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: time it was like seventy five dollars. So I'm like, man, 144 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: I'm about to skip class. Hey, y'all fin to go. 145 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: So I get there, and mind you, I'm still new. 146 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 2: I don't really know everybody. 147 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: There's other creators that are there in the parking lot, 148 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: and so they were like, oh, we seen your page. 149 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: We love it page, we love what you do. 150 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh wow, like dang, like y'all really 151 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: are noticing me, Like my page is really getting traction. 152 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: So when this happens, they're like, oh, you're here for 153 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: a collab too. I'm like, what do you mean. They're like, oh, 154 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: like they paid us to come here. I was like, 155 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: well for real, I was like, man, this is crazy. 156 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: I never even knew this was like a thing, mind you, 157 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: first time being on the internet, first time seeing like 158 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: how you can monetize from it. Yeah, when they told 159 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: me that they got paid, I was like, I was 160 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: being nosy. I was like, how much did y'all actually 161 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: get paid? They told me they got paid like three 162 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: hundred dollars to five hundred dollars. Mind you, I got 163 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: paid seventy five dollars. I'm happy as I don't know 164 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: what because they're finna give me free food and they're paying. 165 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: But once I realized that there was a bigger opportunity 166 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: and people are getting paid more to do the same 167 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: things that I was doing, it made me start to realize, Okay, 168 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: how can I do what I'm doing now, but scale 169 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: on a bigger level? What is the biggest level? Mindjum 170 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: in grad school at the time too. So it's just 171 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: like the biggest quote I ever got while on Lockdown, 172 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: before I even became a creator, was this one thing, 173 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 1: and it was from this dude named Rashad Balau. Anything 174 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: that you were entertained by is a form of business. 175 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: So when I got to Atlanta, I always kept that 176 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: mindset of there's a lot of people out here that's 177 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: making money doing what they love to do, like literally 178 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: point bank period. They're not hating it. They literally get 179 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: to wake up and go do what they love to do. 180 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: You don't really know who they are. You're not gonna 181 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: run into them. But that could also be you because 182 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: you're in that same city. You have the same resource, 183 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: and you have the same like, you have the same 184 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: playing field. The Internet is open to anybody. It's a 185 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: low barrier entry market. It's a low barrier entry thing 186 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: that you can do. So once I just started learning 187 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: the ecosystems a bit of having a niche the things 188 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: that you can monetize from, I kind of started going 189 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: back to my NBA classes and talking to my professors 190 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: about it. We end up having a project where they 191 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: where we had to start like a whole business from scratch, 192 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: and you have to make like a business plan, forecast everything, 193 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: and from that one time getting paid from going to 194 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: eat some wings, I made like a business plan and forecast. Okay, 195 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: let's say I've bumped my rate to three hundred dollars 196 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: and I got paid from different brands or I sold 197 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: other restaurants. Content how much money could I make in 198 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: a month. How much money if I kept this consistent 199 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: and I only had three new customers a week, how 200 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: much can I make in two months, three months? And 201 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: when I started seeing the numbers, I started looking at everything. 202 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: I was like, man, I can make like a lot 203 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: of money doing this. And then I started looking on 204 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: YouTube and learning like Okay, you can get brand deals 205 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: and you can do this or you can do that. 206 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, I answer your question. 207 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 2: Man. 208 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: Everything kind of happened fast, but the first two months 209 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: out of being consistent, that's when everything started opening up. 210 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: But the biggest thing that helped me was going to 211 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: grad school making that business plan and literally actually like 212 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: writing it down and like seeing the forecast and the projections. 213 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: Like yeah, I would say grad school really opened up 214 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 2: everything from me. Man. It made me realize like how 215 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: big it can go do man? 216 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 3: When you got started, Like like how large was your 217 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 3: platform when you've got that first deal. I think a 218 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 3: lot of people feel like you have to have millions 219 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 3: of followers, right, like even with that first brand deal, 220 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 3: Like do you remember how large y'all were back then? 221 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: I want to say I probably had ten to twelve 222 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: okay followers at the time on TikTok. I didn't really 223 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: have a lot of followers on Instagram. I was really 224 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: more focused on TikTok at the time. And mind you, 225 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: I had started my page from zero followers just because 226 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: I wanted to feel comfortable posting, and I felt more 227 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: comfortable when I had nobody following me or people I felt. 228 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: Like didn't know me, you know what I mean. 229 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: As a male, I feel like a lot of us 230 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: were I'm not going to say we camera shot, but 231 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: a lot of us don't care to be in front 232 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: of the camera like that, you know what I'm saying. 233 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: So that was just my way of getting out my 234 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: comfort zone and being able to manage putting out content 235 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: because I didn't feel like people who knew me would 236 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: judge me because I'm talking to a whole bunch of 237 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: random people that I'll never meet, you know. 238 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 3: So, how do you look at the difference between TikTok 239 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 3: and instagrams. I mean, you have large platforms on both 240 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 3: of them, Like, do you see a difference or do 241 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 3: you kind of just feel like you use the same 242 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 3: content on both platforms and they'll be successful. 243 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: So everything changes. 244 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 3: Man. 245 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: At first, TikTok was about exposure it was about with 246 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: nowadays everything is about death. People want to stick to you, 247 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: they want to relate to you, they want to grow 248 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: with you. Back in the day, we're not even back 249 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: in the dawn tripping in twenty twenty, it was about 250 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: with you post something nine times out of tendance, it's 251 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: going to go viral just because now it's more so like, 252 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: where's the value coming from this video? And that's how 253 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: this video is going to get shared. At first, TikTok 254 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: was that place you can go to where you can 255 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 1: put something out and somebody's gonna feel it and it's 256 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: gonna get exposure. 257 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 2: Instagram wasn't like that. 258 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: Now Instagram is acting like TikTok to where it gives 259 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: you that mass exposure as well, and it's performing sometimes 260 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: better than TikTok, you know what I'm saying. 261 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 2: So it changes, it really changes. Right now. I favor 262 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 2: None of the companies are listening to this, but I. 263 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: Favor TikTok over Instagram only because it's more organic, I 264 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: feel like, and you kind of can find like your 265 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: people easier on TikTok versus Instagram, and people can find 266 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: you easier on TikTok versus Instagram. 267 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 3: I feel like, yeah, now, how did you like how 268 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 3: did you like find your voice? Because again, like you 269 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 3: had to probably try out like different kinds of content, 270 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 3: Like how did you feel even when you knew your niche? 271 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 3: You want to kind of explain it spor Atlanta because 272 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 3: like one thing I to your point of like not 273 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 3: necessarily want to be on camera all the time. Like 274 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 3: one thing I really like about your stuff too, is 275 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 3: it kind of comes like a first person POV perspective, 276 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 3: But like did you grow into that or did you 277 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 3: goin to start like that? 278 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 4: Like how did you kind of get to that? 279 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 3: Okay, this is how I'm gonna kind of you know, 280 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 3: this time, I'm going to appear and create my content. 281 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: Okay, So when I first started making content, I was 282 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: doing like the day of my life content. You're coming 283 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: me to school, coming me to grad school, coming to 284 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: me work in the city, and stuff like that. In 285 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: mys I was like the new hype Williams, I'm making 286 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: a music video of my life, except for I don't 287 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: have to make my own music. I could use other 288 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 1: people music and I could make my own videos that's 289 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: tailored to me my regular life and if nobody feel 290 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: it that's cool. 291 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 2: I feel it, you know what I'm saying. 292 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: But then another thing started happening when my friends started 293 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: wanting to come and visit me in Atlanta. Some things 294 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: that I really wanted to do was they would always 295 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: be like, oh, where should I go? 296 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 3: Bro? 297 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: Like you be out everywhere. I'd be like, Bro, you 298 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: know what, look at my page. I made a video 299 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: about every place and what the specials that they got. 300 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: Because my thing was happy hours. My thing still is 301 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: happy hours. At five o'clock, seven o'clock, I'm calling my 302 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: friends up. Y'all off work, come on, let's go link 303 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: up in the city. So my thing was I was 304 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 1: making videos from my friends just to have a reference 305 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: to form when they come to Atlanta. Whether you come 306 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: two months from now, three months from now, six months 307 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: from now, these are all the spots. Don't call me 308 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: to ask no questions, just let me know which one 309 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: you want to go to and I'll meet you there. 310 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: But I didn't know that solving that problem for my 311 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: friends made it me solving a problem for other people 312 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: in the city. 313 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 2: Whether they're new here, they've. 314 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: Been living here, they just don't have the urge to 315 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: figure out where to go. You know what I'm saying, 316 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: Like I solved like a bigger problem than I thought 317 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: it actually was. And you know, to create a business, 318 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 1: the first thing you got to do is figure out 319 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: how does that business solve a problem? 320 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 3: So no, it's dope, man. Now when it comes to 321 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 3: creating content, Like what's your process? Because, like I said, 322 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 3: I see you shoot your stuff yourself, Like, like what's that? 323 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 4: Like you go in, you shoot it. Do you have 324 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 4: like you create shot lists? Again? 325 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 3: Like, and I asked this because I know there's a 326 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 3: lot of people that probably want to do content creation. 327 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 3: They want to kind of figure out like how you 328 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 3: do this stuff? So again, like do you have a 329 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 3: playbook in you here? Like all right, I'm gonna ahead 330 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 3: and do this thing. Is just like organic and you 331 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 3: just like shoot everything and then figure it out later, 332 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 3: Like how'd you kind of create your process to create content? 333 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: I look at my content as like a PowerPoint. You 334 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: got a beginning, you gotta middle, and you gotta end. 335 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: So like let's say, if I'm going out of town 336 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: or if I want to go out of town, it 337 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: all depends on what I want at the time. If 338 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: I want to work with like a certain brand, like 339 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: for me. My thing is travel. I love to travel, 340 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. I love the food in Atlanta. 341 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 1: I love like making events and doing all these other 342 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: different things. But if I want to attract like a 343 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: certain brand, it's a bait and switch. To get that 344 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: brand to come in, you have to put the content 345 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: out to get it. So for me, like let's say 346 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: I'm traveling, I'll go to a hotel in another city. 347 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: I'll scale the hotel just to see what I like, 348 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: see what catches my eye, and then I'll just break 349 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: it down on some Okay, what would be the beginning 350 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: of the video. Okay, let's capture the entrance, Let's capture 351 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: the check in process, Let's capture with the hotel process. 352 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: It's like, what is the middle of the video. 353 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: The middle of the video is me actually using the hotel, 354 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: maybe unpacking my things, maybe going down to getting some food, 355 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: going to get a drink, like just the main things 356 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: you want to see. What does the gym look like? 357 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: The pool of like the amenities. Okay, the end of 358 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: the video, how did you utilize the hotel? How can 359 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: this work with the brand? Or how can you portray 360 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: yourself to where people can see themselves marketing through you. 361 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: So that's the way I do different things. If I 362 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: want to work with like a certain restaurant or a 363 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: type of restaurant niche, I would just put out that 364 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: content heavy to where they would want to come back 365 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: and work with me. A lot of times is bait 366 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: and switch. Like a lot of people think that I 367 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: probably get paid from a lot of restaurants and stuff. 368 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: I'll just do pop ups and I'll pay my own money. 369 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: I won't even tell people I'm my influence and I'll 370 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: just go do it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 371 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: But I know with me, just go doing that is 372 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: going to bait in a brand, or it's going to 373 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: bait in an actual brand that's going to be worth 374 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: trying to pay me my rate and stuff like that, 375 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: you know. So it really just all depends on how 376 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: I want to go into it. If I'm not trying 377 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: to do a bait and switch, then I'm just gonna 378 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: just do it organically just so people can feel me 379 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: and feel my content in death. But at the same time, 380 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: it's going to be something with a beginning, a middle 381 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: in the end, and I gotta add value. 382 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: Whether the value is. 383 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: Breaking down where the place is at where you can 384 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: park the specials that they have, or the value is 385 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: telling people about a certain hotel and why you should 386 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: visit or the best time to visit. You always got 387 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: to add value, and you always gott to have a 388 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: structure where it's a beginning, a middle, and an end. 389 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: And I always try to make sure I keep attention spanned. 390 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: In mind, a video can't be thirty seconds long if 391 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: you don't have a story to tell them for thirty seconds. 392 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 393 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: So it's all different scenarios, but the biggest thing I'll 394 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: say is keep it like a power point. You got 395 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: a beginning, you got a middle, you gotta end. You 396 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: got pictures, you got text you got different things you 397 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: can put in there. But as long as you get 398 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: that storyline right, you good. 399 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 3: A friend of mine, Maddie James, talks about kind of 400 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 3: a similar concept, right like, in order to get brand 401 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 3: deals and certain stuff, you have to put out the 402 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 3: content first. 403 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 4: And that attracts And I. 404 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 3: Think a lot of people get that flip flop right. 405 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 3: They think you just sit back and wait. But to 406 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 3: your point, if you want to work with restaurants, go 407 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 3: do restaurant content, Go shoot it so that they know 408 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 3: what they know that when they're searching they see it's like, 409 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: oh okay, this guy does it, like I can tap in. 410 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 3: You want to do travel stuff, go travel like capture 411 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 3: that content and then put it back out there and 412 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 3: again that's how you attract those brands. 413 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 4: That's really a smart way to kind of go about 414 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 4: doing it. Like when you shoot all this stuff, Like 415 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 4: what tools do you use? Do you do all the editing? 416 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 4: Like are you using like tools? 417 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 3: Like again, like I see you got your Osmo Pro 418 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, your Pocket three? Like you know, 419 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 3: are you using AI, chat, CHIPTD LP? You write scripts? 420 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 3: Like which kind of you your stack of tools you 421 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: used when you do stuff? 422 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: All right, So this is the funniest thing in the world. 423 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: I actually have every tool you can think of, and 424 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: I don't use none of them. I don't use I 425 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: barely use my Ozma Pocket three. I probably got one 426 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: YouTube video and I've had this for like a year. 427 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: I have the Sony A seven R five and all 428 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: the fancy cameras. I use my cell phone for the 429 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: most part. I'm probably gonna use my cell phone even 430 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: for like editing and stuff. I have the MacBook, I 431 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: have the Mini Mac Pro and the desktop set up. 432 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: I edit on my cell phone still only because I'm 433 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: so used to it and it's just so much easier 434 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: in the I don't want to say, like maybe a 435 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: year ago, two years ago, all the fancy tricks and 436 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: the camera qualities, all that stuff used to matter. But 437 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: now that I'm starting to realize like what people actually 438 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: care for, I realize that you don't really need all 439 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: the fancy camera tricks. 440 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 2: You don't even need the fanciest camera. What is your. 441 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: Story, how are you resonating, or how you add in value? 442 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: Those are the biggest things that matter. The camera really 443 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Even like my editing tricks and stuff, it 444 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. And I'll give you like a perfect example. 445 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: There's food bloggers out here that they don't do all 446 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: the fancy editing or anything, but they just keep the 447 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: camera still and they talk to the camera. They grow 448 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: faster than me, They grow faster than me and followers, 449 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: and they also grow faster than me and resonating with people. 450 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: Like for instance, I name one food blogger like in Atlanta, 451 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: people like they literally was smiling, like yo, that's my guy. 452 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: No fancy camera tricks, no edit, Just get in front 453 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: of the camera with his cell phone, talk, tell you 454 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 1: what it is, get off nothing else. You ever heard 455 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: a food stalker, Yeah, that's me, boy. But that's the 456 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: perfect example. I want to say. Me and food Start 457 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: are kind of made content around the same time. But 458 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: I notice over the years his page grows way more 459 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: rapidly and more fast than mine. Mind you, I do 460 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: all the camera tricks, the edits, the flips, the voiceovers 461 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 1: and everything. He just does steal shots, get in front 462 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: of the camera and talk. You understand why because he's 463 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: getting able to talk and resonate with the audience. It's 464 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: more of a connection. It used to be social media 465 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: used to be like a show off type of thing, 466 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: but now social media is getting back to what it 467 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: needs to be, being social, talking to the camera, to 468 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: that one person, face to face. And that's why he's 469 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 1: growing way faster than me. I avoid the camera through 470 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: my edits and my tricks and stuff like that, but 471 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: I know that if I started getting into the camera 472 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: more whereas more face to face, I will see more 473 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: growth and more resonation with my brand. It's just hard 474 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: to get out when you know you get comfortable with 475 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: your ways on how you do things. 476 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 4: No, I understand that. You know. 477 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 3: One thing I always talk about, too mean, even when 478 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 3: we built button our platform is there's always like moments 479 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 3: I see, there's like infliction points, like what were some 480 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 3: of the specific videos or specific moments, So it's like 481 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 3: you did a thing and all of a sudden, like 482 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 3: you actually saw like wow, like I did this and 483 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 3: like this massive growth happened or something. 484 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 4: Those moments like jump out. 485 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 3: For me, yeah, or was it kind of just like 486 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 3: a slow stream over time. 487 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm not gonna lie man Like for me, I 488 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 2: had like this relentless tenacity of I'm gonna make this work. 489 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 2: It wasn't really like a like I had a moment 490 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 2: like oh my god, I can't believe this worked out, 491 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 2: like I honestly, like I was so intentional with this, 492 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 2: Like literally, mine was straight strategy. 493 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: Honestly, I have to put out good content. But it's 494 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: just like once I learned how to make good content, 495 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: it was all about being consistent. 496 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 497 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: The biggest thing I got from this was it doesn't 498 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: matter what influence were IVE been and I went to. 499 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what party I went to or who 500 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: hands I shook. It doesn't matter who knows those who 501 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: are who I know like that does now they don't 502 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: get me wrong, But the basis of it all is 503 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: sitting my tail down in the house and getting that 504 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: content out consistently and showing up, if not every day, 505 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: three times a week, four times a week for two 506 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: months straight, three months straight, four a year straight. 507 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 2: That's the basis of this whole thing. 508 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: If you don't get that out, don't expect a lot 509 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: of good things to come to you. Yeah, like you 510 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: may get like one or two rare occasions where somebody 511 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: meets you they like your page and you're connected. But 512 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: for the most part, the biggest thing out is getting 513 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: in front of that camera or getting that camera out, 514 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: getting that content edited and putting it out to the world. 515 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: That's what brought me the biggest opportunities. 516 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 3: How'd you figure out how to start charging these brands? Again, 517 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 3: you said you noticed that the first one page you 518 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 3: seventy five, You heard these people getting three to five hundred. 519 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 3: Now you're doing bigger deals. Like, how did you figure out? 520 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 3: Was it just like learning? 521 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 2: You know, as you you got to make friends and 522 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 2: talk like that's the biggest thing. 523 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: You can't just go into an industry thinking you know everything, 524 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: because you're never going to know everything. Everything is changing. 525 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: Some people in New York is probably doing things differently 526 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, which they are. I went on a brand 527 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: trip with some creators to where. 528 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 2: Did we go? 529 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: We went to Saint Kitts, Saint Kitts and Nevi's, and 530 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: I had a creator. She was from New York. She 531 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: has I want to say, fifty thousand to one hundred 532 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: thousand followers less than me, but on a consistent level, 533 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: she's making seven thousand to ten thousand dollars a month. 534 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: She's knocking deals out while she's literally on vacation. You 535 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: get what I'm saying. So it's just like I had 536 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 1: to learn to just talk to other creators and just 537 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: really just breaking that barrier. This is where we have 538 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: like a trust, we're open how communication, Like, how was 539 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: it for you when you first started? How much were 540 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: you getting when you first started? How do you feel 541 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: about charging this or how do you feel about this 542 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: deal structure? So I really learned from just communicating with 543 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: other creators that's like the best way. And then when 544 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 1: you kind of start noticing how the deals are structured 545 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: and you kind of know the ecosystem. 546 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 2: That's when you. 547 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: Kind of know what is your value and what is 548 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: your worth because end of the day, it's really what 549 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: you choose to charge, you know what I'm saying. 550 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 2: But my biggest thing was just talking to. 551 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: Other creators and where they went wrong, understanding like where 552 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: you can charge, where you can't charge things that you 553 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: used to accept for free and just go work to 554 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: because it's good for your portfolio. Everything is variable, man, 555 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: But I would say just networking and talking to the 556 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: other other creators was like the biggest thing for me man. 557 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 3: And I mean again, like for the folks that don't know, 558 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 3: like you do this full time, Like this is your job, 559 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 3: Like how did you make that transition? 560 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 4: Like at what point were you? Like you know what, 561 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 4: Like I'm good. 562 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 3: I could do this and I could take care of 563 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 3: my stuff, I could pay these bills and I could 564 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 3: really focus on this full time, Like when did that happen? 565 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: So I had two brands that hit me up early on, 566 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: and both of the brands were for like five thousand 567 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: plus and it was in the same week, and so 568 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: that gave me like a cushion to pay my bills, 569 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: you know for because at the time I was just 570 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: getting a new a permenad at the three months free. Yeah, 571 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: so you know, when I had that cushion to say 572 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: that three months of rent, I was like, Okay, now 573 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: I got this savings, I possibly can start transitioning to 574 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: full time, but I just want to make sure I 575 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: had this certain numbers saved up. When those two hit 576 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: me up and they both paid five thousand, that's when 577 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: I able to have that cushion to say, you know what, 578 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: now I have the time to just say, you know, 579 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just take that leaf and take a full time. 580 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: When I took it full time, I was working for 581 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 1: the GSA at the time, General Service Administration with the government, 582 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: and I was kind of like in this training phase 583 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: of where when I started working, there was no way 584 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: I was going to be able to keep up with 585 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: content as well as work this job because I was 586 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: already going to grad school, trying to finish grad school, 587 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: working for the GSA, and out every other day trying 588 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: to grow this page. And you know what I'm saying, 589 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: editing all those stuff. So at the time I'm not sleeping, 590 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: I'm probably getting two three hours of sleep. So when 591 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: it got to the point where I'm getting collapsed, that's 592 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 1: paying me two to three times more than when I'm 593 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: getting paid in the GSA in the same month, it 594 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: was Okay, let's see what's gonna happen. I didn't think 595 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: it through. I was just like, Okay, let's just see 596 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: what happens. The worst case, the worst thing that can happen. 597 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: I can just go back to the GSA. Yeah, and 598 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: go back into this government job. But once I've seen 599 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: that it worked and it keeps working, it was no 600 00:23:58,920 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: turning back. 601 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 3: And say it was all downhill from there, Like it 602 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 3: was like I'm locked in. One of the things you 603 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 3: also talked about when we were kind of talking offline 604 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 3: was you know, reading is a big thing and creating 605 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 3: goals and all that stuff, Like how does that work 606 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 3: into your process? 607 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: So that's another thing too that happened to it during COVID. 608 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: That was like my first time I really like had 609 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: no choice but to sit still. It was kind of 610 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: like a dark place for me too, because it was 611 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: like a lot of uncertainty, like I didn't really understand 612 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: like the COVID situation with everybody like shutting down, and 613 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 1: like I literally felt to myself, like, bro, you did 614 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: everything right, and now you get to the point where 615 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: it's just like you have no options. I was kind 616 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: of mad at myself for even being in that situation. 617 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: So like, when everything happened, I just wanted to make 618 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: sure I took full advantage of everything that I was 619 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: taking place. Yeah, I just went after everything relentlessly. But 620 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: all that mindset happened when I started reading during lockdown. 621 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: I started reading books more. I started getting like a 622 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: deeper understanding of like how life actually works. But mental 623 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: health was like the biggest thing for me. Like I 624 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: started meditating for the first time during COVID. I read 625 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: this book. It was called Becoming Supernatural. It kind of 626 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: teaches you why you get mad, Like the difference of like, 627 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: right now, we're chilling right like we would do, but 628 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: if somebody come into the room and hit you in 629 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,479 Speaker 1: the face or something, your whole body reacts differently. So 630 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: it kind of taught me on the basis of meditating 631 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: staying calm. It also taught me how to write things 632 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: down for what you genuinely would want, not really like 633 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: the materialistic things, but also with just how you want 634 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: to feel, So like for my job and I wrote 635 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: this down it was for my dream job. It was like, 636 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: what was my elevated emotions. I wanted to feel. I 637 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: wanted to be happy. I wanted to be in love 638 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: with life. I wanted to be traveling. I wanted to 639 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: be able to travel anywhere I wanted to travel in 640 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: the world. I wanted to feel like life was the vacation. 641 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: I didn't need to take vacation like I wanted to 642 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: feel differently, and so in order to do it, I 643 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: had to actually act like it already happened, you know 644 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: what I mean. So even when all the bad stuff 645 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: was going on, I came into Atlanta with a new 646 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: mentality of like, yo, you're in like everything that you 647 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,719 Speaker 1: prayed for. And I felt like that kind of helped 648 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: my creative journey as well, because it's just like I 649 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: already felt like I was already here, Like I don't 650 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: feel no different than when I felt when I first 651 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: moved here. 652 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 2: I already felt. 653 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: Like like life is just like that vacation where you 654 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: just don't need like everything, like everything is fun, everything 655 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: is where you want, Like you're exactly where you need 656 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: to be. Like That's just how I felt when I 657 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: came into it, and I felt like reading was like 658 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: the big foundation for building that in me. 659 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 3: I mean, I think again, a lot of people, you know, Atlanta, 660 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 3: we always say like Atlanta's not a real place, and 661 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 3: you know, I think a lot of people, especially when 662 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 3: you kind of grow up here, you from here, you 663 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 3: just think this is normal. But to your point, like 664 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 3: I said, when you come in from outside and you 665 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 3: see the opportunities, a lot of people just don't even 666 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 3: notice because they don't see that perspective, right, I think 667 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 3: that's what happened, is right. You came here from a 668 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 3: different place, a different perspective, and you're like, wait a minute, 669 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 3: all this is out here, I can tap into all 670 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 3: this stuff, and you know where the average like Atlan 671 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 3: as we call it, we just see it like, oh yeah, 672 00:26:59,119 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 3: that's just normal. 673 00:26:59,640 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 4: That's just it. 674 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: You know. 675 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 3: It seems like you were like leaned in and saw 676 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 3: those opportunities. Other people just didn't notice and just missed 677 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 3: all the way out. 678 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: And not even just that. It's something about this city 679 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: where like people just are so down to. 680 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 2: Work with you. 681 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: They don't they won't know anything about you, but they'll 682 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: see some potential in you and they literally would just say, 683 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: you know what, like I see what you do. Let 684 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: me let's just work together, because us working together is 685 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: better than. 686 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 2: Working the part. 687 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like, I see that 688 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,959 Speaker 1: like a lot in a lot of different industries in Atlanta, 689 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: and it's contagious. 690 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 2: Man. Like it's beautiful out here. 691 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: Like you literally can meet somebody you don't know them 692 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: from a can of paint, but like they just see 693 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: something in you and believe in you, and you can 694 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: turn it into something big. A lot of the reasons 695 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 1: why I feel like my platform is big the way 696 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: that is because of the collaborations and the people taking 697 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: chances on me, you know what I'm saying. So that's 698 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: another thing I want to say. I appreciate the city 699 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:49,959 Speaker 1: for that. 700 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I mean Atlanta. You know, I always tell 701 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 3: people like if you if you come to Atlanta with 702 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 3: good intentions and you build, especially in public, you know, 703 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 3: you build something in public and you do good work, 704 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, the city will support you. 705 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 3: There are a lot of people that just come here 706 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 3: and just take you know what I'm saying. But like 707 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 3: for the folks that kind of pour back in, do 708 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 3: good work, build good relationships. The city will one hundred 709 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 3: percent kind of get behind you and support you, and 710 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 3: it seems like that's what you've really kind of done. 711 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 4: I remember. 712 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 3: One of the things you also said is like you 713 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 3: also just create content for brands. It's not always on 714 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 3: your page too, right, Like you actually have brands to 715 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 3: hit you up like yo, will you just make this 716 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 3: for us? So it's almost like kind of an agency 717 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 3: side of your business as well, to where they kind 718 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 3: of reach out and you can be like yo, like 719 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 3: this isn't necessarily for the vibes page, but we just 720 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 3: need content, and you still do that kind of stuff. 721 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So it's really working with smaller businesses in Atlanta. 722 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 2: Sometimes I'll get UGC deals from brands. 723 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: But there's a lot of money that I realized in 724 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: grad school between business to business versus business and consumer, 725 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: like a lot more money, a lot more guaranteed money 726 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: as well. 727 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 728 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: So one of the things right now is that we're 729 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: going through like this transition with a lot of these 730 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: businesses where you can make money with a lot of 731 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: these smaller businesses by helping them improve in certain certain ways. 732 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 2: My thing is content, but I use AI for my content. 733 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 734 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: So I can take a business's picture, like all their 735 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: pictures from their page, and I can make a real 736 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: in three seconds something that it would probably take them 737 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: two three hours to do. And right now, the biggest 738 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: thing that I see is that there's a lot of restaurants, 739 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: there's a lot of allowments in Atlanta. There's a lot 740 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: of people in Atlanta with businesses, small businesses. You know 741 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: what everybody needs right now? Content whether you're a doctor, 742 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: a lawyer, a plumber, well that's not really a doctor, 743 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: but a doctor with our own practice, a lawyer, a plumber, 744 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: a dentist office. Everybody needs contents across all industries. So 745 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: the best thing for me was just to see, like, Okay, 746 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: if this is a need for you, how can I 747 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: put myself in this place to make money from this 748 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: doing what I love and helping out all these different industries. 749 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, it was just finding out that need and 750 00:29:49,640 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: just using what I know to monetize. 751 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 3: You make a good point, man, I think a lot 752 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 3: of people can call up with me kind of called 753 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 3: B two C, which is business a consumer but man 754 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 3: like business, the business is huge. 755 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 4: It's different because you got. 756 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 3: Big companies selling to other companies, And that's a whole 757 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 3: different conversation ball game, right, Like you get out there 758 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 3: and get in, Like how do you you just like 759 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 3: reach out to these brands, Like how do you even 760 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 3: find these companies just reach out that they find you? 761 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 3: Like I think again, like a lot of people probably 762 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 3: wonder it's like how do these opportunities come in? And 763 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 3: there's always cold outreach, but again, sometimes you actually got 764 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 3: to hit these people up directly, so like how do 765 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 3: you get those opportunities? 766 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 2: Man? 767 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: Honestly, for me, my work is just speaking for itself, 768 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: whether it be having good relationships in the marketing industry 769 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: on the corporate side, and people are just so willing. 770 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: They love my work and they love how I did 771 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: things to where they'll just refer me or they'll just 772 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: see my content and say, hey, we I like what 773 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: you do. Can do the same thing for me and 774 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: make it, you know what I'm saying, like my own way. 775 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: So a lot of my stuff has either been word 776 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: of mouth. A lot of my stuff has been word 777 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: of mouth. I actually, yes, a lot of my stuff 778 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: is in word of mouth because in the four years 779 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: that I've been doing content, I think I've only pitched 780 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: five to six times like that, that's all. So a 781 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: lot of my stuff has really been word of mouth 782 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: or just being referred by other people in the industry. 783 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 4: And now y'all doing events and stuff too, right, man. 784 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie. 785 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: I used to beg and ask people like can I 786 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: work with them? I'm going to their events. The videos 787 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: are going viral. People are always asking me what am 788 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: I doing next, like every time I go to an event. 789 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: So the craziest thing is when we started doing these events, 790 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: I told them I didn't want to be like the face. 791 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 2: I didn't want to tell people that I was a 792 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 2: part of it. 793 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: I just want to add like I was just going, 794 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I have this thing 795 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: and I don't know if it's just from me growing 796 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: up or whatever, but I always felt like people will support. 797 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 2: You more when they realize it's not your stuff. 798 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's real, Like, I feel like people will support 799 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,959 Speaker 1: you more when they realize it's not your stuff. 800 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 2: So we did a r and. 801 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: You most of the festival, and we started like two 802 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: years two years ago, yeah, two years ago. And I 803 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: literally made a flyer on Canva and I was like, yo, 804 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: this is gonna be like, this is gonna sell out. 805 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 2: Watch this. 806 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: And this is at the time where it's like people 807 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: are getting more comfortable with going back out, Like you know, 808 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: we had to lockdowns and then people were kind of 809 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: kind of afraid with the smaller variants of COVID still 810 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: going around, But this is at the time where people 811 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: are transitioning to going back out and getting used to 812 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: being back out in big events and big concerts and 813 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: stuff that we used to miss back in twenty twenty 814 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: and twenty twenty one. So when we dropped the flyer, 815 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: we had everything already organized, the event was paid for. 816 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: All we had to do was just drop the flyer 817 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: and sell the tickets. I think I dropped the flyer. 818 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: We sold like five hundred tickets in that same day. 819 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, I dropped the real say hey, 820 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: I'm there's this a festival coming up. I'm gonna be 821 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: going to it. Hope y'all go to it too. Literally 822 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: sold out in one post. Oh wow, one hundred thousand 823 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: dollars in sales in one post like that was from 824 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: my page, and I actually was able to see it 825 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: from my page. Once I seen that, I actually seen 826 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: how much value I actually have because this is not 827 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: only just a festival. This is something that I actually 828 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: have equity in. Yeah, like there's three partners in it 829 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: when it comes to the festival. But it just made 830 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: me realize like how much I was giving away and 831 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: begging people to do this same exact thing for them, 832 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: and they would still tell me no. So once I 833 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: realized that my druma an NBA dropout, only thing I'm 834 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: thinking about is Okay, how can I do this? But 835 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: times ten? Right, I didn't really want to. I don't 836 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: really get comfortable. I used to be in the military. 837 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: I'm used to moving around too much, so I don't 838 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: really get comfortable with staying in the same place or 839 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: being the same person. You have to always elevate. I 840 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: always have to move around, or I always have to 841 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: do better than I did last year. Like it's just 842 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: for them. Five years I was in the military. It 843 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: was built in me. So I just thought to myself, Okay, 844 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: you just did this once, but how can we do 845 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: this times ten? So we did another one two months later. 846 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: I posted it twice. It sold out in two posts 847 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: and we did two We did two sessions that time. 848 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,239 Speaker 1: We did two sessions at that time, So we did 849 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: two hundred and forty thousand dollars in sales with two posts. 850 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: So it's just like seeing this happen and it's not 851 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: really like not even like a money grab. We actually 852 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: cared about the event. The first event that happened, the 853 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: line was so long. It happened at Underground, and I 854 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: think we were like one of the first ones. 855 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 2: That was doing events to where we brought them back. 856 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 2: But it happened. 857 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: It honestly scared me how much the demand was because 858 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: there were people waiting in line for like two hours, 859 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: three hours, like as if Drake was performing or something, 860 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's just like seeing 861 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: that it happened so fast, it was like, yo, we 862 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: gotta capitalize. We got to get these processes right. And 863 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: I had to learn all over again. I had to 864 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: learn something like completely different from what I'm already used to. 865 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: I kept telling myself, like, are you crazy, Like you 866 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: have this thing where you could just go out, you 867 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: have no responsibilities, no overhead, no care, you could just 868 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 1: go out, make your money and come back home no words. 869 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: Now you're about to bring on something where it does 870 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: make you money. But it also brings you a lot 871 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: of headache, It brings you a lot of sleep. 872 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 2: Is nice. When we first at the festival, I threw up. 873 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,760 Speaker 2: Everything went right, everything went well. 874 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: But I could not go just because I wanted to 875 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: make sure everybody was happy, everybody like if you was 876 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: waiting in line long. I felt like crap because I 877 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: felt like, that's not what represents me. 878 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying. 879 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: But with me not telling people that it was my festival, 880 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: it also helped me be able to work on things 881 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: behind the scenes or work with people to work on 882 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: things behind the scenes to make things one hundred percent 883 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: better without getting any scrutiny. So as I was able 884 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 1: to keep putting it out getting making it better and 885 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: better every single year. So in the past two years 886 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: we did like a million dollars in sales from the 887 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: festival tickets. It happened so fast where we're just coming 888 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: out with concepts and just doing out different things, like 889 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: I'm still learning till this day. Like right now, we 890 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: got two events. We got two events coming up in 891 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: different cities. This is the first time we're actually doing 892 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: the city. This is my first year doing a tour 893 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,240 Speaker 1: with festivals. And we have over ten cities that we're doing. 894 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: So it's like in three years, we're going from trying 895 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 1: to take over Atlanta to try to take over the 896 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: country and we're learning as going. The events have been 897 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: going good, we've been selling out every city that we've 898 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: been to. But it's just like how fast everything goes. 899 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: On top of keeping up with content, on top of 900 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,919 Speaker 1: keeping up with the brand deals, on top of keeping 901 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: up with the page, on top of keeping up with things. 902 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: I'm challenging myself. Man, it's different right now. Like it's honestly, 903 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: I'm at like a different season of my life where 904 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: I'm going from being a content creator to learning how 905 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: to be a CEO. Yeah, time management, respecting people's time, 906 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 1: understanding understanding just of where to put your focus on 907 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: your mind on things that actually matter. Still trying to 908 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: make an impact in the community, making the difference in 909 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: different ways. Like I'm just it's like a different transition 910 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 1: from me right now. Like it's easy to be a hustle, 911 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: it's harder to be a CEO. 912 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's a different level of game, you 913 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 3: know what I mean Again, Like it's like you hit 914 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 3: one level all of a sudden you want to try 915 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 3: something different, and I think a lot of to your point, 916 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 3: a lot of people don't always see the value they 917 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 3: have and the power they have with their voice. 918 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 4: I know that's all. It's fun, but it's scary. 919 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 3: It's scary at because and I've been on the same 920 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 3: side of that where yeah, you put something out and 921 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 3: all of a sudden you're watching. You know, I got 922 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 3: the Shopify app installed on my phone, you know what 923 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,240 Speaker 3: I'm saying, and so there are things and I posted 924 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 3: it. It goes live all of a sudden, it just it 925 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 3: starts being like, man, this is just a money printer, 926 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 3: you know. But at the same time, though you care. 927 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 3: If you didn't care, it'd be one thing you just 928 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 3: throw out whatever, right, But like when you care, you have. 929 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 4: Real events different. Yeah, I mean, like. 930 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, like we did the four or four d A 931 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 3: Parade this year, and like I was the same, aybro, 932 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 3: I was terrified, you know, cause I'm sitting here. We 933 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 3: had three thousand people signed up the walk. We had families, kids, 934 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 3: and a lot of people don't realize, like about a 935 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 3: week or two before that parade happened, is when that 936 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 3: incident happened in New Orleans where the guy took the 937 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 3: car and drove down Bourbon Street and hit a bunch 938 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 3: of people. And so literally I'm like, I'm planning the 939 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 3: parade and now all of a sudden, I'm calling companies 940 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 3: like yo, I need insurance for the spectators. And the 941 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 3: whole time, I was like, I just want everybody to 942 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 3: get safely from point A to point B. That's all 943 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 3: I kept on say, I just want you all to 944 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 3: get safely from point A to point Because it was 945 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 3: already we already. 946 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 4: Had too much invested in it. 947 00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 2: Yep. 948 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 4: We couldn't turn back, we couldn't cancel. 949 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 3: But like you start seeing stuff like that and you're like, man, 950 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 3: I just want everybody to be safe, That's all it is. 951 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 3: And so to your point, you care because you know 952 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 3: how powerful your voice is. You do, and you know 953 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 3: that if I put this out here, I got to 954 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 3: stand on it, and if it goes left, people gonna 955 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 3: come looking at me, you know what I'm saying. And so, 956 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 3: like I said, a lot of people don't always care. 957 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 3: But you know, again, when you understand, like, what's been 958 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 3: one skill that you've kind of developed through this whole 959 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 3: content creation journey that has kind of surprised you. 960 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 1: One skill that I always say that has surprised me 961 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: learning patience. I have to be patient with myself. I 962 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: have to be patient with my time. I have to 963 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: be patient with my processes. I have to be patient 964 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: with the deals that I work with. I'm in a 965 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,839 Speaker 1: position now where I can make money every single day, 966 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: but do I have to know I have to be 967 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: patient with myself and I've to be patient with how 968 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: I roll out things. I have to be patient with messaging, 969 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: being patient with marketing. Also just learning that perception is 970 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: reality and it sucks, but it's just like being mindful 971 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:03,240 Speaker 1: that I am a bigger platform than what I perceive 972 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 1: in my head and that what I say people resonate 973 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: with it and it actually affects them. So I always 974 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: want to make sure that I'm mindful and patient with 975 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: myself to not do anything that burns anybody, even if 976 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: it's like a reco restaurant recommendation. If it's something where 977 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 1: I know it's like a money grab and they're just 978 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: trying to pay me to go, I'm not going to go, 979 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So just being patient with 980 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: myself to understand, like, you can't do everything. You can't 981 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 1: tell everybody yes, and you can't tell everybody no. So 982 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: just being patient and being unders and understanding, like you 983 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,959 Speaker 1: really have to use your what's that. 984 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 2: One word everybody says, it's like. 985 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: When you have to think to be more intentional about intentional, 986 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: it's using your people in church say it all the time. Discernment. 987 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, using your discernment. So yeah, using your discernment. 988 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's one skill I would say, using my 989 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: discernment a lot more. And understanding, like when things are right, 990 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: do it when they're not right and you understand they're 991 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: not right. Patient, wait on it, this is not the 992 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: right time right now? 993 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 4: What's still? 994 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 2: Man? 995 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 3: So what are your goals now? Like what's your end game? Like, 996 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 3: where do you see this whole thing going? 997 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 2: My endgame? I really want to make an impact. 998 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 1: I really want to be like the platform that just 999 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 1: I don't take more than not give, you know what 1000 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, I really like want to be like 1001 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: the person to where it's just like if I plant 1002 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 1: this seed, it's not just gonna grow one tree, It's 1003 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: gonna grow like ten to twenty. 1004 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. So that's my biggest 1005 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 2: thing is like what impact am I making? 1006 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: Now? I made the money? Like what impact are you making? 1007 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: How are you helping this community? Or like how are 1008 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: you helping this business or how are you helping this 1009 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: single family, or how are you helping these teenagers? 1010 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 2: Like I really want to make an impact. 1011 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,439 Speaker 1: It may not happen now, but when it happens, IA 1012 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 1: be really excited for that. Yeah, the scaling thing, the 1013 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 1: hustling getting the money, that's easy, but like making an impact, 1014 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 1: making sure that you're doing things where it's just like 1015 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 1: it's more intentional and it's actually beneficial for the whole community. 1016 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 2: That's another thing. 1017 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 4: So it's dope. Man. Well, look, man, Jarvis has been good. 1018 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 2: Man. 1019 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 3: I hear the authenticity, the intentionality, the humility and your 1020 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,240 Speaker 3: voice and you know what I mean, You've built something amazing. 1021 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 3: So congratulations and all this success before we get out 1022 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 3: of here, man, Like, what's one piece of advice you 1023 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 3: would just give a consecrator that wants to get started 1024 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 3: and wants to do something similar. 1025 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: Anything you are entertained by is a form of business. 1026 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 1: Do not let that go over your head. And you 1027 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: cannot go anywhere without being consistent. First, the hardest part 1028 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,800 Speaker 1: about this thing is starting. So as long as you start, 1029 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna be fine. And when you start, don't try 1030 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,720 Speaker 1: to get one hundred percent of the things right. Only Actually, 1031 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say, don't try to go for one 1032 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 1: hundred percent. Try to work for thirty percent. You can't 1033 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: get a one hundred percent right, Go for thirty. And 1034 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: once you go for thirty, try to make it seventy. 1035 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: And once you get to seventy, try to make it 1036 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,240 Speaker 1: one hundred. The biggest thing is just starting being consistent 1037 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,280 Speaker 1: and believing in yourself. 1038 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 3: Hey, man, I love it well Man again, Jarvers Vibes 1039 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 3: and atl congratulations for all the success. 1040 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: Man. 1041 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 4: Can't wait to see what y'all do next. 1042 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,359 Speaker 3: Y'all killing it with the events, with the content, Bro, 1043 00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 3: You've built something amazing. 1044 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 4: Man. You should be proud of that. Bro. 1045 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,320 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Man, Thank you for having. 1046 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 4: Me absolutely Man. With that said, that's the pod. 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