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Speaker 1: heard those bugles blow on Sunday, Yes we did. To
Speaker 1: start the game with another great rendition of the national anthem,
Speaker 1: and then to end the game as well as the
Speaker 1: go team of the Senior Pros one again or whatever
Speaker 1: it's calling Senior Pro. The victory Monday has begun. Bill Jones,
Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola and Noah Everson Walls. Today instead, we've got
Speaker 1: a six time Pro bowler Nate Newton who's figuring out
Speaker 1: his headsets and got to join us here. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's up fellas? That good? Wow, let's do this. I
Speaker 1: know I'm not as handsome as ever Everson, but uh,
Speaker 1: I think my opinion is a better coming with a
Speaker 1: lot of energy. Say it. When he walked, big old
Speaker 1: smile on his face. Now we should in honor of Everson,
Speaker 1: Treyvon Diggs got his A pick is a third of
Speaker 1: the season of his career in thirty five games or
Speaker 1: something like that. I don't have the exact numbers in
Speaker 1: front of me. And there's only one in NFL history
Speaker 1: who had more picks and that number of games to
Speaker 1: start his career, and that one would be Everson Walls.
Speaker 1: So shout out there to join us. He's celebrating the
Speaker 1: fact he still holds that record. He ought to buy
Speaker 1: that kid some presents or something. He keeps bringing it
Speaker 1: gets his name mentioned every time that he gets a pick.
Speaker 1: So so, Nate, I saw you late last night on
Speaker 1: my television, your post game show with Kyle Yeoman's and
Speaker 1: here y are bright and early noon on the Monday
Speaker 1: and ready to go again. Oh yeah, man, just just
Speaker 1: loving it. Man. And uh I knew, Man, I knew.
Speaker 1: I knew it was gonna beat him. I didn't know how,
Speaker 1: but uh yeah, But I want to live a high
Speaker 1: and I normally do. I don't normal to go by
Speaker 1: one point, but I went by three. So we really
Speaker 1: put a whooping on him yesterday. I feel good, Mick,
Speaker 1: you feel good? Didn't give up a touchdown? Hold on Bill?
Speaker 1: You asked me, did I feel good? I got five?
Speaker 1: I asked him, do we feel good. Yeah, come on, man,
Speaker 1: bring up the energy level. When when when when Phillips
Speaker 1: was leaving, I almost called him and said we needed
Speaker 1: a replacement here today. Oh Rob Phillips, Wade Phillips, Oh
Speaker 1: pans wow he A win is a win, Yes it is, Yes,
Speaker 1: it is, sir by the way over a Lions team
Speaker 1: that now has the worst record in football and one
Speaker 1: in five, which is amazing because yes, because how did
Speaker 1: Carolina beat Tampa Bay? Right? Wow, that's the most amazing thing.
Speaker 1: J Walker, J Walker over Tom Brady? How about that?
Speaker 1: And it was twenty one to three. There's trouble in
Speaker 1: paradise in Tampa apparently maybe in Green Bay too, and
Speaker 1: Green Bay also we're gonna be there in a few weeks.
Speaker 1: Goes to show you. And I'll say it again, as
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott said, it a win as a win, no
Speaker 1: matter that's what it looked or how you got. That's
Speaker 1: that's a great example right there. Tampa Bay. How do
Speaker 1: they feeling about their game against Carolina? Yeah, well, you
Speaker 1: know it's not a victory Monday in Tampa. That one
Speaker 1: the worst Washington beaton Yeah, Washington beaten Green Bay. Yeah. Wow,
Speaker 1: we're the backup quarterback. Yeah, the East is the East
Speaker 1: is a beast. Predictions say we won't have some have
Speaker 1: one and a half winning teams in this division and
Speaker 1: supposed to have the easiest schedule in all of football whatever,
Speaker 1: because they were rated solo last year. There's the only
Speaker 1: time would have had four victories yesterday if the Eagles
Speaker 1: hadn't been idle and you look ahead to the oh
Speaker 1: but no, coach Phil Let's said, that's a win. That's right,
Speaker 1: speaking of coach Philips, right and looking ahead and the
Speaker 1: next week Cowboys are playing in Chicago, Okay, And off
Speaker 1: top of my head, Philadelphia's playing Pittsburgh next week. Correct,
Speaker 1: Washington's going to Indianapolis, and the Giants are playing Seattle,
Speaker 1: and so those are that's possible four more wins for
Speaker 1: the NFCS. I don't know Seattle's winning. I know Seattle
Speaker 1: with Gino Smith, they're they're leading the NFC West, by
Speaker 1: the way. That is one constant. As certain coaches I'd
Speaker 1: never turn on, and Pete Carroll's one of them, I've
Speaker 1: always admired him to own. A mistake he ever made
Speaker 1: was not running that ball four times, And but that
Speaker 1: was I would black to be on that stage to
Speaker 1: be able to make that mistake, you know. But I'm
Speaker 1: telling you I'll never turn on coach him, Coach Belichick,
Speaker 1: Coach Johnson, and coach Mander. Those are my Those are
Speaker 1: my guys. Interesting you bring that up, and it's probably
Speaker 1: a deeper conversation later because we need to dive into yesterday,
Speaker 1: although it relates to yesterday with that coming back. You know,
Speaker 1: you look at Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson's career and
Speaker 1: when Russell Wilson first came into the league and the
Speaker 1: emphasis on running the football and they had a great defense. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's a parallel there with what this Cowboys team looks
Speaker 1: like right now. Okay, with the defense that this team
Speaker 1: is playing. When you look at Russell Wilson's career and
Speaker 1: you look even just look at statistically his career and
Speaker 1: so what he was doing as far as taking care
Speaker 1: of the ball and running that show in Seattle his
Speaker 1: first few years, and then it became an emphasis of
Speaker 1: getting his numbers, you know, and he, to his credit,
Speaker 1: he was able to throw thirty five touchdown passes a
Speaker 1: year and so forth. To his credit, he got the
Speaker 1: big contract now or whatever. But their team wasn't as
Speaker 1: good once that happened. But Pete Carroll, he always has
Speaker 1: wanted to run the foot ball first. He is a
Speaker 1: defensive minded coach from the get go, and so things
Speaker 1: started falling apart in Seattle there. I think what we're
Speaker 1: seeing here in Dallas is and maybe what we get
Speaker 1: out of the Cooper rush time as the quarterback of
Speaker 1: this team the last five games, it re emphasizes rely
Speaker 1: on this defense, run the football, take care of the football,
Speaker 1: and good things are going to happen. Mic is your show.
Speaker 1: I want you to go first before I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1: I like the fact that the defense plays the way
Speaker 1: it plays. I like the fact that they are showing.
Speaker 1: Now that's three games in a row they've run for
Speaker 1: one hundred yards. But I don't like the fact that
Speaker 1: you end two consecutive games with three points in the
Speaker 1: first half. The offense has got to get better. If
Speaker 1: the offense gets better, I'm gonna Jerry said it last week.
Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, this is great the defense is playing,
Speaker 1: and then when the offense catch us up, we're gonna
Speaker 1: be a mess, meaning really good. So the offense has
Speaker 1: got to continue to improve, and there's not a lot
Speaker 1: of times you're gonna get handed five turnovers to help
Speaker 1: your offense get to twenty four points. You got to
Speaker 1: start doing some of this on your own. And that's
Speaker 1: three games out of seven that they finished the first
Speaker 1: half with no more than three points, and a fourth
Speaker 1: they had six no touchdowns. So they got to be
Speaker 1: better offensively and then they can be a very dangerous team.
Speaker 1: And in what you said not only applies to Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: it applied to a John Alway later in his career.
Speaker 1: It applied to Peyton later in his career. Tom Brady
Speaker 1: has always played that way. It is it took that
Speaker 1: Rogers his one year. See this is what I tell people,
Speaker 1: and I argue on my show all the time. You
Speaker 1: have to throw to the ball to get down the field.
Speaker 1: You need one chunk play each series of twenty yards
Speaker 1: or more to get you where you need to be.
Speaker 1: But when you're out of balance, that means when your
Speaker 1: team get unsettled, you give up a sack. Come back
Speaker 1: with a run when you need a key first down
Speaker 1: in the open field. Come with a run when you
Speaker 1: when your quarterbacks is just a little bit shaky, come
Speaker 1: with a run. All it does is settles you down
Speaker 1: and give you a defense a chance at the end
Speaker 1: to win the game. And that's all you guys are
Speaker 1: talking about. Dak, he said yesterday. You know those were
Speaker 1: confident builders, Dak. Not the way we play now, love
Speaker 1: you to death, not the way we play now. We
Speaker 1: don't need confident builders. Because those two confident builders could
Speaker 1: have could have took us other way. It didn't. I
Speaker 1: don't linger on that. I know he will learn from that.
Speaker 1: But the way you threw the ball after that was
Speaker 1: was right. You know you you you found your blanket.
Speaker 1: You found shots either shots found his blanket tight ends. Yes,
Speaker 1: but see that coach mccarthur did two things that we
Speaker 1: hadn't seen around him a long time. And y'all can
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. We down on the close
Speaker 1: to the goal line about the score, fourth fourth down.
Speaker 1: Oh looks good, but not good enough. I wasn't played
Speaker 1: in my defense. Let's kick a field goal. I would
Speaker 1: like to see my defense change his mind? Yeah, oh great,
Speaker 1: because he's saying in his mind, I would like I
Speaker 1: would put my defense against your defense. No, let's just
Speaker 1: kick it, because even even my defense a crush you okay, right,
Speaker 1: before the half that caused the fumble. You said, it
Speaker 1: wasn't right before the half, browning brown fun And then
Speaker 1: they came down and they fumbled, and then they founded
Speaker 1: in the half, but they elected not to use their
Speaker 1: time out right. But when the guy ran down, when
Speaker 1: he tightend caught the screen and ran down, where was
Speaker 1: that at Oh that was in the third quarter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was playing. That was that was the player of
Speaker 1: the game. They got a fumble, and you knew right
Speaker 1: then game was over. But at halftime you can tell
Speaker 1: that coach McCarthy said, hey, hey young man, hey Keller,
Speaker 1: and to Dak find his true rhythm. That's kind of
Speaker 1: be a little bit more balanced. And he did it
Speaker 1: and he won the game. And Dak said, yes, I would.
Speaker 1: I was throwing the ball with a little too much confidence. Yes,
Speaker 1: first half, because he took some shots down the field
Speaker 1: that probably weren't necessary, and even a couple he completed.
Speaker 1: You were like, oh, yeah, ceedee lamp came a big
Speaker 1: and then the one of the Shultz Yeah down the half. Yes,
Speaker 1: that was very for he threw in the but see,
Speaker 1: you knew that was gonna happen with him. He hadn't
Speaker 1: played in a game he hadn't played in, a game
Speaker 1: that speeds up and it ain't practice. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: agree with you. You got to see the field. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. When you come back. See if
Speaker 1: y'all well limit. This is what I keep preaching to
Speaker 1: everybody that want to listen, that that wants some football knowledge.
Speaker 1: Elite is not armed talent. See, that's part of elite.
Speaker 1: Elite is watching the game, understanding the game. The guys
Speaker 1: we named earlier, all of them either had someone helping
Speaker 1: them or had mastered the game to what they knew,
Speaker 1: the rhythm of the game, how it was being played,
Speaker 1: who they're playing against. Do we really need to push
Speaker 1: this here or do we stay See Dak, if he
Speaker 1: was had been playing, he would have saw, I don't
Speaker 1: need to push this. They can't beat us. Our defense
Speaker 1: is too great. Let me make sure I just get
Speaker 1: this ball to who need to have the ball. And
Speaker 1: now this is what I'm hoping from this point on,
Speaker 1: him and coach Kellum say, hey man, this is what
Speaker 1: we need to do. This team came Chicago cannot beat us.
Speaker 1: Jimmy would gather us up at the beginning of week
Speaker 1: and he would gather us up on Friday, and he
Speaker 1: would gather us up right before the game. Fellows, mean
Speaker 1: what I told you Monday, this team can't beat us.
Speaker 1: Don't make mistakes Detroit. Yeah, there you go, and let
Speaker 1: Detroit make the mistake here and Detroit made and we'll
Speaker 1: get into the MICA play whatever. But to your point
Speaker 1: on McCarthy changing his mind calling the time out, changing
Speaker 1: his mind and going ahead and kicking the field goal
Speaker 1: rather than going forward on fourth and chest. If the
Speaker 1: Cowboys don't make it on that fourth and two, that
Speaker 1: is the equivalent of what the Lions did by fumbling
Speaker 1: at one yard line in the third quarter of that game.
Speaker 1: And this conversation with McCarthy after we taped his Coaches
Speaker 1: show on Thursday. If you went back and looked at
Speaker 1: the Lions game against New England, yes, sir, every they
Speaker 1: got into field goal territory five times in that game. Okay,
Speaker 1: they lost the game twenty nine to nothing. They went
Speaker 1: for it on fourth and one. I can't remember exactly
Speaker 1: how many times, but it was three or four times
Speaker 1: they went for it, and they threw a pick down
Speaker 1: at the three yard line. One time on a fourth
Speaker 1: down play, they went for it they were in field
Speaker 1: goal range. Okay, they could have kicked a fifty yard
Speaker 1: field goal like the Cowboys did yesterday. Instead they opted
Speaker 1: what the Lions did yesterday. Instead, they went for it.
Speaker 1: Quarterback got sacked, fumbled, it was returned fifty nine yards
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. It turned into a twenty nine nothing game.
Speaker 1: I went back and looked at that game. If the
Speaker 1: Lions had just kicked field goals every time they got
Speaker 1: into field goal range, it would have been a nineteen
Speaker 1: to fifteen game with two minutes left to the game.
Speaker 1: And so McCarthy, yes, yesterday, he gets down there fourth
Speaker 1: and two, right, he knows his team is better than
Speaker 1: this team he's playing against. And by the way, New
Speaker 1: England was starting a rookie quarterback starting his first NFL
Speaker 1: games that day. All right, if McCarthy gets down there
Speaker 1: and he realizes, hey, it's not worth the risk of
Speaker 1: not making it, just take your points. You're gonna win
Speaker 1: this game as long as you don't give them opportunities
Speaker 1: to and turn the ball over, when essentially that is
Speaker 1: a turnover when you miss on a fourth down conversion
Speaker 1: like that. Well, I'll tell I'll guarantee you what he
Speaker 1: did was when it was third. It was third and
Speaker 1: two at the three, and I'm sure he told Kellen, okay,
Speaker 1: you got two plays to score. There you go. And
Speaker 1: when you get stuffed on third and two and now
Speaker 1: it's still fourth and two, fourth and two, it's like, whoa,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, we're gonna And you could see I
Speaker 1: was watching McCarthy. He you know, when they make the
Speaker 1: decision to keep the offense on the field at that point,
Speaker 1: all right, he's not sure where they're gonna spot it exactly,
Speaker 1: and then he sees where they spot it. And season four,
Speaker 1: fourth and so I see sometimes see I'm about analytics.
Speaker 1: If I have a greater not a better team. If
Speaker 1: if I'm Kansas City, if this Kansas City, come on, man,
Speaker 1: do what you want to do, because I have a
Speaker 1: greater team than yours, not just a better team, a
Speaker 1: greater team than analytics. Don't analyze that part, right, So
Speaker 1: if I got a greater team, I'm gonna play a
Speaker 1: little bit of the analytics early in the game. But
Speaker 1: we have came off of loss. We was off his line, shoulder,
Speaker 1: me struggling. This is a great call by Well and
Speaker 1: the call sheet on a fourth and two play is
Speaker 1: different than the call sheet on a fourth and one play, yes,
Speaker 1: and you're and they probably had a pass play play
Speaker 1: on fourth and two and the chances I mean fourth
Speaker 1: and ye foot okay, yeah, run load left and yeah,
Speaker 1: you get it all the time, right, And here's here's
Speaker 1: what they had planned on the two. They had two
Speaker 1: tight ends and two running backs again, and they tried
Speaker 1: that play later and it didn't work where they had
Speaker 1: they were going to pitch the pollard with Zeke and
Speaker 1: and so that's what they were getting ready to do there.
Speaker 1: And it's like, okay, yeah, let's just three threes, okay,
Speaker 1: but still twelve minutes to go in the in the
Speaker 1: second quarter, all right, when we come back. It's the
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Speaker 1: Walls as Everson is on assignment or something like that.
Speaker 1: I think that sounds that sounds really good. I can't
Speaker 1: remember where Everson said he was going to be today,
Speaker 1: but he told us in advance he couldn't be here today.
Speaker 1: All right. One of us remembered, that's right, And then
Speaker 1: I told Mickey, all right, so play of the day.
Speaker 1: First off, there were in my mind, there were two
Speaker 1: plays of the day yesterday. The first one came with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys up ten to six in the third quarter,
Speaker 1: facing a third and two at the Detroit thirty three
Speaker 1: yard line, and Aiden Hutchinson for the Lions put a
Speaker 1: spin move on Terren Steel and sacked Dak Prescott, putting
Speaker 1: the Cowboys not only made it a fourth and nine,
Speaker 1: it was a seven yard sack, but not only put
Speaker 1: them out a position to go for it on fourth
Speaker 1: down if they wanted to, but also took him out
Speaker 1: of field goal range. Okay, ten six game. If the
Speaker 1: Cowboys convert there, whether it's a they get the first
Speaker 1: down or kick a field goal, the game is pretty
Speaker 1: much gonna be over at that point. Which, by the way,
Speaker 1: and that all was set up, which would have been
Speaker 1: the third play of the game, was a sixty two
Speaker 1: or fifty two yard turned by Kavante Turpin's right. If
Speaker 1: he didn't have to sidestep the punter, he's gone right
Speaker 1: because he stepped right back into where that guy was. Okay,
Speaker 1: So Hutchins and Cowboys have the momentum all right after that,
Speaker 1: and you know what happened at the beginning of the
Speaker 1: third quarter, all right, Hutchinson makes that play, and now
Speaker 1: the Lions have new life. And what do the Lions
Speaker 1: do right after that? They go down the field and
Speaker 1: it's kind of the same type of offensive series that
Speaker 1: Nate you're talking about that the Cowboys got back to
Speaker 1: to start the second half. A lot of it was
Speaker 1: running the football. They overcame two holding calls on that
Speaker 1: penalty to get on that series. To get down to
Speaker 1: a second and five at the eighteen yard line, they
Speaker 1: dump a screen pass off to Brockwright, their second tight end,
Speaker 1: and Michael Parsons makes the play that I will remember
Speaker 1: from this game. We won't remember this game against the
Speaker 1: Lions on down the road, but there is one play
Speaker 1: we will remember, and it's Michael Parsons running him down
Speaker 1: at the goal line. So it's second and five at
Speaker 1: the eighteen and so when I went back and analyzed
Speaker 1: the play they ran, they were in two tight end
Speaker 1: formation to their left. The Cowboys had three linebackers in
Speaker 1: they had their four down and Michael Parsons down to
Speaker 1: the right with Layton vander eschen bar and and I'm
Speaker 1: sure in Parsons mind he just smoked the tackle right. Well,
Speaker 1: little be known the guy let him go because they
Speaker 1: were setting up a screen right, And sure enough, when
Speaker 1: he was bearing down on Golf, he realized, oh wait
Speaker 1: a minute, they're fooling me because this is too easy.
Speaker 1: He stopped at the twenty six yard line right, and
Speaker 1: when goff through to right, Wright was at the twenty one,
Speaker 1: so he's got a five yard head start on him right,
Speaker 1: and he's running. Parsons got a spin from a dead
Speaker 1: stop to start running, and then I kind of fouled
Speaker 1: the play. And when Wright got to the thirteen yard line,
Speaker 1: Parsons was at the eighteen, and it was almost like
Speaker 1: he hit the booster rocket. And by time Right got
Speaker 1: to the four, Parsons was at the five and drags
Speaker 1: him down at the one yard line. Unbelievable play. And
Speaker 1: he talked about how Quinn sat him down last week
Speaker 1: and said, hey, look, you got to remember you got
Speaker 1: to use your speed out there. He said, you got
Speaker 1: to use your superpower and then he said your superpower, right,
Speaker 1: which is your speed? And godle what a play. He
Speaker 1: can have easily given up on that. He was so
Speaker 1: far behind the play and everybody else was getting blocked
Speaker 1: because not only did they have uh hock, how do
Speaker 1: you say it Hockinson. Hockinson out there blocking, but two
Speaker 1: other offensive linemen clearing the way he's gone. It's a
Speaker 1: touchdown and he drags them down at the at the
Speaker 1: one yard line. Unbelievable play. I'll tell you something. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna be honest. It's about four guys need to
Speaker 1: be docked. I'm saying you need others loaf loaf loaf,
Speaker 1: because we did that in a highlight show last night.
Speaker 1: I say, fellas, you can't see it, but he ran
Speaker 1: past three people. I mean when he hit them jets,
Speaker 1: he instantly went past three people. I'm saying to myself,
Speaker 1: but I guess they know their speed. It worked faster, faster.
Speaker 1: The dude was going sideways. That's the only thing that
Speaker 1: if he was going straight, I could have went straight,
Speaker 1: Michael wouldn't had a shot. But when he turned sideways
Speaker 1: and side easing down to the left side off the blocks,
Speaker 1: Michael like, I got this dude, and uh man, that
Speaker 1: was beautiful. That was That was every high school college
Speaker 1: pop Warner coach. This is the effort we need and
Speaker 1: turn that film on. This is the effort we need.
Speaker 1: And then and then it became after the game, and
Speaker 1: we'll get to why. And the play was so important.
Speaker 1: But Dan Campbell was getting asked why he didn't challenge
Speaker 1: that it was a touchdown, and Campbell said, well, I
Speaker 1: didn't have a really good angle to see it. I
Speaker 1: was waiting to get called down from the coach's box
Speaker 1: and he said the call never came. And when they
Speaker 1: showed the replay from the pyelone cam, you can see
Speaker 1: Wright's knee hitting the ground and it was a beautiful
Speaker 1: shot and the ball had not broken. It was close,
Speaker 1: and I'll guarantee it was closer than where they spotted
Speaker 1: the ball. It should have been like a foot from
Speaker 1: the goal line, but they spotted it at the one.
Speaker 1: But the but the pieline cam showed his knee down
Speaker 1: and he did not score, and they were challenging Campbell
Speaker 1: on it, and you know, he was kind of, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe I should have. And Wright thought he scored, and
Speaker 1: you know what Parsons said, He goes, I thought he scored.
Speaker 1: I thought they were lighting up for a two conversion.
Speaker 1: You know, I used to be very very critical of
Speaker 1: coaches and the coaching staffs, and I really did. But
Speaker 1: a lot of people can't even handling their own Daily Lives.
Speaker 1: Now they want to bang bang play a bang bang situation.
Speaker 1: It favored the Cowboys. So you know, just like the
Speaker 1: turbo play last week. You know, we all all one coach,
Speaker 1: you know what them ups and downs happened. That's why
Speaker 1: you go out and get players to try to band
Speaker 1: aid your mistakes, and then in turn, you once in
Speaker 1: a while band aid the players mistakes. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying With a coaching and you know, in fairness,
Speaker 1: they they're they're at the one yard line. They got
Speaker 1: the second ranked offense in the league. He got four
Speaker 1: plays to go thirty six inches, so he's probably thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's at the one, let's just go get it. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what, big that sounds good, But you also
Speaker 1: gotta think that's the number one ranked defense with that
Speaker 1: bull over there. Yeah. To me, I wanted us to win,
Speaker 1: and I knew how we were supposed to win. And
Speaker 1: even though we won the way we all thought we
Speaker 1: were gonna win, you're still like, wow, that was ugly. No, No,
Speaker 1: you know, I wrote my column and my first word
Speaker 1: was woo. Yeah, right, okay, kind of a sigh of
Speaker 1: relief because this certainly wasn't an eighteen point game, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: you know you're sitting there kneeling and basically I wrote,
Speaker 1: you know, Dak kneeled down, kneel down at the end, Well,
Speaker 1: everybody else should have taken a knee and gave thanks. Yes,
Speaker 1: the whole stadium, right, Hey, can we get a motive
Speaker 1: side of ye? And so then that that play follows
Speaker 1: with Williams going up Tom he fell kind of weird.
Speaker 1: Did you see how it was awkward? He hit the
Speaker 1: pile and went straight down like this, and the ball
Speaker 1: came out that gave the strip to Lawrence. I don't
Speaker 1: know if anybody could actually see it or not. And
Speaker 1: it trickles right to bar. What are the chances? Well,
Speaker 1: good things happened when you make a play like Mike
Speaker 1: did on the previous Yeah, just keep you just keep
Speaker 1: playing hard. I mean, you just keep playing hard. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, and again if the if the Lions score
Speaker 1: a touchdown on that possession, they're ahead thirteen to ten,
Speaker 1: and the and the rest of the game plays out
Speaker 1: entirely differently. Yes, Uh, this is what I'm gonna keep
Speaker 1: reminding people. You are in third place and the teams
Speaker 1: that are ahead of you does have the ability to
Speaker 1: beat you in head to head competition. These ain't teams
Speaker 1: that oh will catch him in the end. These are
Speaker 1: teams that has the ability and the player. Jones. I
Speaker 1: don't like the coach from New York. He's making his
Speaker 1: kid good. You know what I'm saying. He's making his
Speaker 1: kids Jones Jones, Yes, yes, I mean I don't like him.
Speaker 1: I don't like him. I don't. I don't know why
Speaker 1: they heard him. Yeah, he's too good. What are they
Speaker 1: doing in New York? That guy that Wow? Were in
Speaker 1: third place? Fellas and you know yeah, and here was
Speaker 1: another saving grace. Even after they got the fumble, they
Speaker 1: didn't go anywhere. And on fourth and one at their
Speaker 1: own twenty nine, anger hits a It must have been
Speaker 1: a fifty yard punt. He they got fair caught at
Speaker 1: the twenty yard line. That was unbelievable. That that he
Speaker 1: basically that kid has he reversed the field, the field
Speaker 1: and then that led to Lewis's interception or faith unfortunate
Speaker 1: inception because he didn't get hit. He must have fallen
Speaker 1: and his foot no, if you see it, it's a player.
Speaker 1: He jammed his foot in the good dead just when
Speaker 1: he caused a player jams while he was laying on
Speaker 1: the no as he was catching it go back, and
Speaker 1: as he was catching it and he was getting ready
Speaker 1: to fall, that player just in a split second went
Speaker 1: across his foot. That was a freaky accident. And that
Speaker 1: list frank injury. That's that's that. I mean, it was
Speaker 1: serious enough. They did surgery yesterday. Yeah, last night. I
Speaker 1: know you know, I've always my only knock has been
Speaker 1: on Jay Lui. My only other knock is Jay lou
Speaker 1: was sometimes, uh get this sent I can make this
Speaker 1: play and he'll jump something and heard him as a
Speaker 1: spot receiver. You can play Russian roulette, but you got
Speaker 1: to play the percentages. If it's cening percentages in Russian roulette,
Speaker 1: I mean a play. Yeah, and in a great catch
Speaker 1: diving like that. Uh So, now, Duran Bland, let's go.
Speaker 1: And you know it's a good thing. They got this
Speaker 1: kid some experience earlier in the season. Okay, let me
Speaker 1: ask you this question, Bill me what what what's happened
Speaker 1: to the fat kid? Did the rapper? I mean what
Speaker 1: Calvin Joseph? Yeah, what what has happened? We'll see what
Speaker 1: they think of him. If they trust them, then they
Speaker 1: can put him at corner and put h Brown Anthony
Speaker 1: Brown in the slot. Who that's where he's played. Yes,
Speaker 1: So now it may be a different decision than what
Speaker 1: it was for a one game decision, right because Kelvin
Speaker 1: Joseph on special teams, he's got his role there and
Speaker 1: you don't want to take him off that if he's
Speaker 1: playing full time, I can't agree, no, no, no no,
Speaker 1: But for one game, right, we're talking where it was
Speaker 1: Duran Bland. You know it was right before kickoff they
Speaker 1: found and they had to make that decision on game day. Dan,
Speaker 1: you're playing, okay, and so now you're adjusting everything. Okay,
Speaker 1: Now you know Lewis is out for the season, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: So now okay, you make plans starting today whether or
Speaker 1: not it is Kelvin Joseph the guy or is Duran
Speaker 1: And to your point, okay, Kelvin Joseph being the second
Speaker 1: round pick, you would think he is the guy, but
Speaker 1: O d you trust him and that all goes into it.
Speaker 1: You know, if the first guy I took off the
Speaker 1: bench is well, that's the first guy I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: a shot at it. It's just I mean that that
Speaker 1: is the one thing where I could see where they
Speaker 1: could decide. They in their own mind, they may even
Speaker 1: have Kelvin listed above it. But and that spur of
Speaker 1: the moment decision because that that was the roles laid
Speaker 1: out for them on that day against that who a
Speaker 1: game was that? Who was the opponent? Showed up hurt
Speaker 1: for the game? It hurt on like in warmups. It
Speaker 1: was the warm ups. It was right right before the game.
Speaker 1: Let me see which game did he miss? I got
Speaker 1: it listed right here. It was the Washington game. All right,
Speaker 1: so you're playing Washington. It was a growing groin injury
Speaker 1: in pregame. Um, so Washington's offense. Okay, you may not
Speaker 1: make that and you haven't prepared Kelvin for that role
Speaker 1: coming into that game. But now now we're talking long term, right,
Speaker 1: So it is Kelvin Joseph your second round pick or
Speaker 1: is he not? You know, well he may be, but
Speaker 1: if he's not good enough to do it, you, oh
Speaker 1: with the best player right now? I trust bland In there.
Speaker 1: But see that's what I'm saying, is we do, but
Speaker 1: we haven't seen we haven't been at practice every day
Speaker 1: to see what meetings and stuff. WHOA So that the
Speaker 1: other riff. Oh you just watched him Spike the guy.
Speaker 1: It's they'll talk. It's a good thing he wasn't a quarterback. Yes,
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Speaker 1: let's before we get into Sam Williams, let's say one
Speaker 1: thing about Micah. Okay, you know, in baseball, I know
Speaker 1: of there were some baseball players who they actually had
Speaker 1: the number to the press box. They had memorized the
Speaker 1: number to the press box because there would be times
Speaker 1: where they would get a hit in a game and
Speaker 1: it would be scored by the official score who sits
Speaker 1: in the press box as an error, and they would
Speaker 1: get back to the dugout and they would call the
Speaker 1: press box and lobby to the official scorer or or
Speaker 1: yell at the official score that that's a hit, not
Speaker 1: an error, and so that should count as a hit
Speaker 1: on my stats. All right, So somebody that so experience,
Speaker 1: Oh really you talked, Yeah, I didn't know you played
Speaker 1: double a baseball the Jackson. You're the official score was
Speaker 1: covering the team, and I was the official score. And
Speaker 1: when I would give one of the guys on the Mets,
Speaker 1: he hit the ball and I give him an error.
Speaker 1: I get the dirtiest looks up there. And one day
Speaker 1: before the game, when they were in batting practice and
Speaker 1: I was standing on the sideline, the catcher came up
Speaker 1: to me and he goes, you know, these guys are
Speaker 1: trying to get the triple A and a lot of
Speaker 1: that has to do with stats. And he goes, when
Speaker 1: you give him an error instead of a hit, that
Speaker 1: hurts their stats. And moving up, he goes, so you
Speaker 1: better think taking money keeping any other part and and
Speaker 1: I marched right to the GM and I said, I resign. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So I bring that up because his integrity, that's right.
Speaker 1: I asked Mike after the game, can you appeal the
Speaker 1: stat where he did not get the credit for the
Speaker 1: sack Dorin's Armstrong got credit for the sack of which
Speaker 1: would have given him two sacks. And yeah, he had
Speaker 1: the guys him. Yeah, he's the reason the quarterback went
Speaker 1: down was because of Mike. They can appeal that. I'll
Speaker 1: got that what I'm asking I asked him. I asked, Mike,
Speaker 1: can you appeal that? And he didn't really answer the
Speaker 1: PR staff. He's mad about it, though. The PR staff
Speaker 1: can send that into the NFL and say, hey, this
Speaker 1: should have been a sack there, This should have been
Speaker 1: this guy's sack. Yeah, they have the ability to do okay,
Speaker 1: But Dorian's armstrong right now has matched his career high.
Speaker 1: He's got six sacks in seven games, more than Oh man.
Speaker 1: You know, I just remember his kids. He's gonna have
Speaker 1: more than Randy ever had. I just remember his kid
Speaker 1: coming out of Kansas and the people that that drafted
Speaker 1: him knew what to do. Come on, coach, y'all drafted
Speaker 1: I mean you knew what to do and didn't give
Speaker 1: him an opportunities. I used to sit over there and
Speaker 1: ague about it. But you know, I like to give
Speaker 1: the coaches the aid maybe they are seeing something or
Speaker 1: knowing something that I don't know, because they had the
Speaker 1: toy over there, ye Randy Gregory. Yeah, well I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you what the toy and Denver man they should
Speaker 1: have brought. They should have brought our crew whatever was
Speaker 1: happy them to Denver paid the package. Yeah, yeah, I'm serious. Well,
Speaker 1: he's on I R or not? When when you have
Speaker 1: a kid and I can use him and say, when
Speaker 1: you have a kid that's kind of challenged on the
Speaker 1: outside world. Everything is controlled in here, but when you
Speaker 1: get on the outside world, you kind of challenged, and
Speaker 1: you put people in things in place to help settle you.
Speaker 1: If you're going to sign this kid, NFL, get the
Speaker 1: whole packages and transfer it. Don't we just take the
Speaker 1: player because it's a package, come withness player. I wonder
Speaker 1: if they knew that. Yeah, they knew, but they didn't
Speaker 1: want to pay for the package, and the package got over. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, which brings us to Sam Williams. And Sam
Speaker 1: got the first two sacks of his NFL career in
Speaker 1: yesterday's game. He also had a body slam that wasn't penalized.
Speaker 1: And you know that's the thing, kind of to your
Speaker 1: point on you know, Dorian's armstrong not getting an opportunity.
Speaker 1: He's That's the other thing this defensive coaching staff does.
Speaker 1: They get there are opportunities for all these guys. As
Speaker 1: far as Russian the past year, you know, I had
Speaker 1: the perception that he played more snaps than he did.
Speaker 1: I thought he was out every time I seemed to
Speaker 1: look up on the left defensive end in passing situations,
Speaker 1: he was out there right, Well, he only played fourteen snaps.
Speaker 1: In fourteen snaps, he has three tackles, two sacks, two
Speaker 1: tackles for losses, two quarterback hits, and then the forced
Speaker 1: fumble recovered on his own on that one sack. He
Speaker 1: had the triple play there. That's unbelievable. And so the
Speaker 1: Lions had what fifty eight snaps in the game or
Speaker 1: something like that, something and something like that, so fifty six. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so if he had played, so he played fourteen yea,
Speaker 1: so essentially times four, you he would if he would
Speaker 1: have played all fifty six snaps, he would have had
Speaker 1: eight sacks of the game. No, he wouldn't have. Just
Speaker 1: just don't work that way. Never worked that way. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, he just don't work. Because at about the
Speaker 1: second after that second one in the games he would
Speaker 1: have been played, they're like, hey, we just doll Well
Speaker 1: that's a that was a heck of a performance. And
Speaker 1: I phrased my question probably not wrongly to Mike afterwards.
Speaker 1: I said, it seemed like, you know, Williams got more snaps,
Speaker 1: and what did you think of what he did with him?
Speaker 1: And he kind of looked at me and then and
Speaker 1: then it was like, oh, he didn't have more because
Speaker 1: he usually gets ten to twelve, so he got fourteen right,
Speaker 1: And then he said no, I was real proud of him.
Speaker 1: He goes that was that was an amazing performance by him.
Speaker 1: And maybe you're right, smaller better, right you get Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean because too many, and maybe you don't. You're
Speaker 1: not as productive you when you don't when when you're
Speaker 1: not used to plan against a freak as offensively, the
Speaker 1: scariest thing in the world was when when when When
Speaker 1: when you go to punch a guy and he's able
Speaker 1: to dip down, the lower your punch and ever, and
Speaker 1: when you do get your hands on him, it's in
Speaker 1: the middle of his back and you're projecting them into
Speaker 1: your quarterback. That's scary because no matter what you say,
Speaker 1: guys can't move their hips that that is kind of
Speaker 1: a locked in thing. But if you have the ability
Speaker 1: to bend your hips with your knees at the same time,
Speaker 1: that is a freakish thing. And so you know, that's scary.
Speaker 1: He's got that mindset that I'm gonna get there, however
Speaker 1: I need to get there, Yes, right, yes, he's got
Speaker 1: a little Haley in him. Not satan from an athletic standpoint,
Speaker 1: but Haley. I think people were afraid of Haley because
Speaker 1: they didn't know what he was gonna do to beat them,
Speaker 1: and he would do whatever to get him right. And
Speaker 1: you know, when training camp was over and we got
Speaker 1: back here, I used to watch Haley walk out with
Speaker 1: Sam Williams to practice way before everybody would get out there,
Speaker 1: and they would go back there and do something, and
Speaker 1: you know, most guys just kind of blow off Charles.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, yeah, this kid would listen to him,
Speaker 1: and I said, oh, he might be dangerous. Yeah, how
Speaker 1: good is it for Sam that he's got Micah here,
Speaker 1: who's been here a year? Don't stop there, don't don't
Speaker 1: stop there? Yeah, how good is it for this kid
Speaker 1: to have Michael? Did Marcus, Lawrence, Dance, Armstrong, Dante Falla
Speaker 1: It when by time he gets in and he's a
Speaker 1: greater athlete than all except Michael. He's a greater athlete
Speaker 1: than all except Micah. So what do you do as
Speaker 1: a office a lineman when you don't batted all these
Speaker 1: guys and battled all these guys and hey go to
Speaker 1: one of the most breakish ones like you say, would
Speaker 1: do anything to get to the quarterback and to accentuate
Speaker 1: your point. After the game, and I'm up in the
Speaker 1: press box and I'm writing. I looked down on the
Speaker 1: field and this had to be a good hour after
Speaker 1: the game, and I saw these guys in these these
Speaker 1: white like uh warm up suits, and I look, I
Speaker 1: get my binoculars. I looked down there and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: that's Sam Williams. And I was like, who's this other guy?
Speaker 1: What was DeMarcus Lawrence? And they were both dressed the
Speaker 1: same and I think DeMarcus had his wife down there
Speaker 1: and maybe one or two of the kids. And then
Speaker 1: there was another kid and I'm assuming it was Sam's
Speaker 1: uh son, and they were all down there together and
Speaker 1: I said, okay, somebody's looking after this guy, and it
Speaker 1: was it was DeMarcus Lawrence. I just I just think
Speaker 1: that if we uh see, this is what I love
Speaker 1: about this game. We won it, DA got through it.
Speaker 1: The next game would be much better and they can
Speaker 1: get better. Yeah. Yeah, So, so, like you said, Mickey
Speaker 1: hit the beginning of the show, by time was tenth
Speaker 1: levelth game. We should be at that twenty seven points
Speaker 1: a game mark without the help of the defense. I mean,
Speaker 1: for as them getting to pick six. We need your
Speaker 1: short fields. We'll take the minute time. Yeah. Absolutely, And
Speaker 1: it's great to rely on your defense as long as
Speaker 1: the defense is there. Yes, right, yes, And you know,
Speaker 1: and what was still stinging was the drive against Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: Philadelphia's drive that took him the seventy five yards thirteen
Speaker 1: plays to seal the game, and Micah talked about it
Speaker 1: on Thursday. He said it still stung, and that's when
Speaker 1: he brought up, you know, the shark thing j and
Speaker 1: then he reminded everybody it was Shark week. Even though
Speaker 1: it wasn't Shark week, it was their shark week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: any week, Micah says, Shark week is Shark week. Absolutely, Okay. Uh,
Speaker 1: and you have a homework assignment tonight. Oh what do
Speaker 1: I got? You got the Chicago Bears. Oh yeah, playing
Speaker 1: at New England tonight on Monday night and they come
Speaker 1: here on a short week. But right, yeah, can you
Speaker 1: watch it? I just it's just like I said, you know, Uh,
Speaker 1: it's Christmas time in October and we got our first
Speaker 1: gift on the door. You can go CVS Pharmacy Walmart.
Speaker 1: I mean, we have Christmas lights up all out of
Speaker 1: the place already with the right tonic, the right portions,
Speaker 1: the right gifts. I mean, thank you, Sandy, thank you,
Speaker 1: because we've just been a line up and getting these
Speaker 1: guys Green Bay all build oh well some coming after
Speaker 1: the byeway. I got that win cowboy fan that emails
Speaker 1: me and he didn't think they'd win five games after
Speaker 1: they lost the Tampa Bay and I said, lately he
Speaker 1: did today and he goes. I bowed down because I
Speaker 1: told him just settle down, and then he said, how
Speaker 1: many how many wins you think it's gonna take to
Speaker 1: win the East? And so I started looking and I said,
Speaker 1: guess what. The Eagles only have four games left with
Speaker 1: teams with winning records right now. Two of those games
Speaker 1: are the Giants, one's the Cowboys in Tennessee. Then I
Speaker 1: looked at the Cowboys. They only got four games left
Speaker 1: against teams with the winning records. It's the Eagles, the Giants,
Speaker 1: Tennessee and Minnesota. The rest of them, including Green Bay, yeah,
Speaker 1: not have a winning record. I just if we play well,
Speaker 1: and I can say Dak gonna only get better because
Speaker 1: he's gonna look at film EA gonna be like, you know,
Speaker 1: what this is what can help my team wins. So
Speaker 1: these are the passes that I'm gonna make sure to
Speaker 1: get there. Yeah, and I'm these are the ones I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take away. I don't need to be thrown into
Speaker 1: double coverage. Yeah, I mean it happens some time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when you have zone coverage. It happened sometime. So but
Speaker 1: and I hate to say this because it'll come back
Speaker 1: to harmon. It's good when you're a quarterback and don't
Speaker 1: have to play perfect, you know it, just don't play him,
Speaker 1: you know, don't play the bad game. You have to
Speaker 1: play the perfect game, but just don't play the bad game.
Speaker 1: It was nearly perfect the second half. Yes, all right,
Speaker 1: that does it for this edition of me. Thank you.
Speaker 1: I don't think ever since here tomorrow either, Thank you, Nate.
Speaker 1: Thank you Nate. Well, if Everson is not here, I'll
Speaker 1: try to come in. If I get over here earlier,
Speaker 1: I'll try to come in because I'll be studying for
Speaker 1: the Chicago's and whooping, and then we put a worse
Speaker 1: whooping on him the next week. So you don't you
Speaker 1: don't have the Bears winning tonight, you know what, The
Speaker 1: Bears don't know who they are, and teams that don't
Speaker 1: know who they are and have no direction. And I
Speaker 1: ain't saying the coach not giving them direction, but you don't.
Speaker 1: You don't know who your quarterback is, Your defense ain't
Speaker 1: near what near what it was a year ago. So
Speaker 1: as long as they're not wearing can I say one
Speaker 1: thing orange uniforms again? Cavanta turping, Your day is coming
Speaker 1: where we will spend more. We will spend a whole
Speaker 1: segment in tomorrow tomorrow. Oh yeah, there you go. All right,
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