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Become a member today and 10 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: you'll get access to our full shows, unedited, ad free, 11 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 2: and all put together for you every morning in your inbox. 12 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 3: We need your help to build the future of independent 13 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 3: news media and we hope to see you at Breakingpoints 14 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 3: dot com. All right, let's get to Congress. Turning now 15 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 3: to Congress. Interesting story. So, in the wake of Marjorie 16 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 3: Taylor Green's resignation, there's been a discussion about Congress in 17 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 3: particular and Republicans who are in Congress what do they 18 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 3: do all day? Do they even really want to stay there? 19 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 3: There's been a space actually of a number of people 20 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 3: in Congress who are resigning. What was his name, Jared 21 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 3: Golden is that his name? In Maine who said he 22 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 3: would resign. You have Marjorie Taylor Green who said or 23 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 3: he said he wouldn't run for reelection. Margor Taylor Green 24 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: said she's going to resign. But people broadly are just 25 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 3: fed up with the institution and they feel like they 26 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 3: waste their time and they don't do anything. Let's put 27 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 3: this up here on the screen from Jake Sherman. He's 28 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: one of these inside the beltwagh reporters who really know. 29 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 3: He speaks to everybody and reports some of the inside gossips. 30 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: So here's what he says. 31 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 3: A few other GOP members have messaged us over the 32 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 3: weekend saying they too are considering retiring in the middle 33 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 3: of the term. Here is one exercise Senior House Republican. 34 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 3: This entire White House tream has treated all members like 35 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 3: garbage all and Mike Johnson has let it happen because 36 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 3: he wanted it to happen. 37 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: That is the sentiment of nearly all. 38 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 3: Appropriators, authorizers, hawks, doves, rank and file. The arrogance of 39 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: this White House team is off putting to members who 40 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 3: run rough, shot and threatened. 41 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: They don't even allow little. 42 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 3: Wins like announcing small grants or even responding from agencies, 43 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 3: not even the high profile the regular rank and file 44 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: random members are more upset than ever. Members know they 45 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 3: are going into the minority after the midterms. More explosive 46 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: early resignations are coming. It's a tinderbox. Morale has never 47 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: been lower. Mike Johnson will be stripped of his gabble 48 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 3: and they will lose the majority before this term is out. 49 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: That is shocked. 50 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 4: Now. 51 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: I remember I flagged this that MTG resigning was a 52 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: big problem for Mike Johnson because that was I mean, 53 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 3: what is it, two votes? They're in the House of Representatives, 54 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 3: you lose two more. Take a look at an actuarial 55 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 3: table if you might, for the average age for a 56 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 3: number of people in Congress. 57 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: You're hanging on there by a real thread. 58 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 3: And I mean, I think what's interesting about the whole 59 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 3: White House treating them like garbage. Thing is you could 60 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 3: blame the White House, but you could also blame Congress. 61 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 3: And that's the part where I get a little bit annoyed, 62 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 3: where I'm like, well, nothing's stopping you from being like 63 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: MTG and trying to stand up. It's you're who afraid 64 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 3: of standing up quote unquote to Congress or standing up 65 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 3: to the White House, or you know, getting on their 66 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: bad side. They are the ones who live in fear 67 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 3: of a Trump truth social or who go around the 68 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 3: Capitol and say, well, I haven't seen the tweet, or 69 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: I'm not aware of what it is, or I'm not 70 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 3: aware yet of what the President has said, but always 71 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 3: praising him on the other side, even though behind the 72 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 3: scenes you totally disagree. So it's kind of it's a 73 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 3: revealing story in the way that they act, but it 74 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 3: also it's on them, and I think that's really what 75 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 3: I wanted to make this about, is Look, I think 76 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 3: it's I think it's sad that MTG is leaving. I 77 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: really do wish that she would stay, at the very 78 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 3: least just to use her voice and salience to make 79 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 3: other people uncomfortable stand up to the White House. But 80 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 3: you know, nothing has stopped them from standing up on 81 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 3: even issues like Venezuela for example. I mean, they refuse 82 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: to take control over their ability to declare war and 83 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 3: to exercise some oversight over the United States military, which 84 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 3: is their constitutional you know, one of their obligations right 85 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: is to review especially appropriations and the literal right to 86 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 3: declare war. They refused to exercise any power over that. 87 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 3: They refused to exercise any power. Let's say over weapons 88 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 3: shipments and the lay He law like these, they passed 89 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 3: laws into office, or they passed laws on the books, 90 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: and then they refuse to actually ensure or try to 91 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 3: ensure that those laws are being followed. And this isn't 92 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 3: just a Trump story, It's really a story of post Iraq. 93 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 3: Is that ever since Iraq, when congressmen and senators, or 94 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 3: when senators voted to support the war in Iraq and 95 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: then Hillary basically lost in two thousand and eight because 96 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 3: of the Iraq war vote, they just don't want to 97 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 3: take any difficult vote and they're happy to just pass 98 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: the buck to the executives that they own all the 99 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 3: political consequences. And that's really the case on everything. I mean, 100 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: even if you remember Crystal Obamacare, not when it was passed, 101 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 3: but when the Republicans tried to repeal it. Many Republicans 102 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 3: who lost in twenty eighteen blamed their vote on Obamacare 103 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 3: on trying to repeal Obamacare for the reason they lost. 104 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 3: I remember Martha mcsallely specifically talking about that in the 105 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 3: state of Arizona and multiple others who actually ended up losing. 106 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: In that election. 107 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 3: They don't want to take difficult votes. That's why they 108 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 3: put things in big bills and they just kind of 109 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 3: like shunted it once a year so that they can 110 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 3: recover later on if they need to from the political consequences. 111 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 3: So I blame the institution much more than I blamed 112 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 3: just the White House in this way. They're acting like 113 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 3: most White houses do when it comes to Congress. 114 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's you know, it's they're working together 115 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: to give the executive as much power as possible. Like 116 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: that's effectively what's happened here. I mean, they've co signed 117 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: Trump's executive power grab from the beginning. Even if you 118 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: think about Doge right out of the gates, Doze just now, 119 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 2: by the way, finished after having you know, decimated parts 120 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: of the federal government but achieved negative cost savings and 121 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 2: you know, wrought a lot of havoc in people's lives 122 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: and degraded government services, etc. 123 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 5: So congratulations to all involved. 124 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: And now the Doge boys who were part of it 125 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 2: are apparently afraid that they're going to be prosecuted for 126 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: you know, not following the law while they were there. 127 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: But in any case, you know, out of the gates, 128 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 2: all these Republicans, we're so excited about Doje and all 129 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: this cost cutting, and you know, completely on board with 130 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 2: the executive branch just unilaterally deciding what funds were going 131 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: to be spent, what programs were going to be cut. 132 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 5: They didn't assert. 133 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: Their authority as a legislative body, you know, because I mean, 134 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 2: this is the way this is supposed to work, as 135 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: everyone knows, is Congress appropriates funds and then the executive 136 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 2: has discretion over exactly how Congress's wishes are fulfilled. But 137 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 2: the constitutional understanding is that Congress has the power of 138 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 2: the purse, and the executive branch doesn't just get to say, hey, 139 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: we're just not doing the Department of Education anymore. No, 140 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 2: that was congressionally mandated. So if you're a Republican and 141 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 2: you have control of the House in the Senate and 142 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 2: you want to decimate USAID or you want to decimate 143 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 2: the Department of Education, Okay, those are congressionally mandated authorized agencies. 144 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: You go through a process. Or if they're individual programs 145 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 2: that you're like, you know what, I'm not on board 146 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: with this subsidy to green energy or whatever it is. Again, 147 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: you can pass legislation to roll back what was done 148 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 2: in the past. Instead, they were happy to hand it 149 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: off to Elon and his chainsaw and President Trump. So 150 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: you can't now turn around and be like, hey, they 151 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: treat us like a potted plant. They treat us like garbage. 152 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: Or another quote was they act like where the Duma, 153 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: which is you know, the Russian parliament, that's just like 154 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: a rubber stamp for Putin, Like they treat us like that. 155 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, you asked for that treatment. You handed 156 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 2: all of this power, You went along with this whole 157 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: executive power graph, you celebrated, you were in support of it, 158 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: and now you're like, where's my consultation on this? And that, 159 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: like get out of here. But you know, I think 160 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: the sense of frustration and disgust has set in after 161 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five election results, where it is now 162 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: incredibly clear that they are going to lose the majority. 163 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: So the only thing worse than being treated like garbage 164 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 2: and a potted plant in the majority is being treated 165 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 2: like garbage and being in the minority and having to 166 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: deal with the Democrats and whatever subpoenas and investigations they're 167 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: going to do as well. So you know, it wouldn't 168 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: surprise me if this comes to pass that enough say 169 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: forget amount of here before the midterms that Johnson loses 170 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: his gavel. 171 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 5: You know, they a. 172 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: Lot of these like they'll go to special elections. The 173 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: timing of those varies by state. You know, I'm not 174 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: sure exactly what will happen. In Florida, it's a very 175 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: red district. You're likely to get another Republican, but in 176 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: the meantime, there'll be a vacancy. 177 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 5: For a while. 178 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 2: That will make their you know, holding on to the 179 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: majority more difficult, and keeping everyone together will require Mike 180 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: Johnson to keep literally everyone together on every single priority. 181 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: And then you look at something like, you know, in Tennessee, 182 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: there's this special election going on right now in a 183 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: district Trump won by twenty two points. I think the 184 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 2: Republicans are probably going to win it, but. 185 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 5: They're a little bit nervous. They're having to spend money. 186 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: That shows you how dangerous this situation is, especially in 187 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 2: special elections where you know, Democrats high turnout base now 188 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 2: shows up for these things and Republicans, you know, base 189 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 2: which has shifted and become more working class and is 190 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: less likely to turn up for these elections may not 191 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: be paying attention. 192 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 3: Yep, I think you are definitely correct, and for Mike Johnson, 193 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 3: let's put MTG's response D two up there on the screen. 194 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 3: She says, fact check. It's true, but it's worse than 195 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 3: people inside the bubble. No, when you talk to real 196 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 3: Americans about the wicked snow globe of Washington, DC, love 197 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 3: that myself and many of my colleagues have come courageously 198 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 3: roaring into twenty twenty five with legislation that match the 199 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: election mandate, only to be totally signed by and by 200 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 3: Johnson under full obedience of the White House. Executive orders 201 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 3: are temporary. Q memes have not obliterated the deep state. 202 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 3: My colleagues constantly trying to pass the loyalty tests instead 203 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 3: of demanding what is right won't help Americans pay their rent, 204 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 3: stop corporations for buying home by groceries, provide good paying jobs, 205 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 3: and more. Passing effective legislation that gets signed into law 206 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: is permanent and actually solves problems. Now the House members 207 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 3: are switching gears in a campaign mode and will be 208 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 3: fighting for their lives. Our legislative majority has been wasted. 209 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 3: Our best shot was the first six to nine months. 210 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 3: When Republicans lose the midterms, it becomes total and complete 211 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 3: political war gridlock. Once again, the Union Party always wins. 212 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 3: What is a convincing message for twenty twenty six and 213 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: likely twenty twenty eight, it will be the American people 214 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 3: asking candidates, what tangible thing have you done for me? 215 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 3: How did it or will it make my life any better? 216 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: I think she's right. 217 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 3: It also demonstrates, you know, some of the issues that 218 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 3: we have right now with Congress broadly. And there's also 219 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 3: a joke apparently, let's put this next one up here 220 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 3: on the screen inside the White House, top advisor's joke 221 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 3: that they are ruling Congress with an iron fist. According 222 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 3: to people who have heard the comments, Steve Bannon, the 223 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 3: influential Trump bala like in Congress to the Duma, the 224 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 3: Russian Assembly that is largely ceremonial, which is. 225 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot it was Bannon who was the one 226 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: who said that? 227 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: Which Duma? That's the question. Real Brush watchers will know. 228 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 3: All right, let's go to the Let's go to the 229 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 3: next part on sedition, shall we. 230 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, So you guys have been probably following the story. 231 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: We covered it on the show. Alyssa Slotkin, Mark Kelly 232 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 2: and some other Democratic members of Congress like national security 233 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 2: Dems who either come out of the CIA, CIA or 234 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 2: former military put out in this video saying, hey, if 235 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 2: there are unlawful orders, you should not follow them, not 236 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 2: specifying which unlawful orders, et cetera. And I think it 237 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: was meant to provoke, and it certainly got that response. 238 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 2: Trump started calling them the Seditious Seven. He retweeted a 239 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: comment that you know, George Washington would have had them hanged. 240 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: He said they were traders, et cetera. Well, we have 241 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 2: a new escalation in this battle. We can put E 242 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 2: one up on the screen. This is the Department of 243 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 2: Defense statement. Here they say the official statement, The Department 244 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 2: of Wars received serious allegations of misconduct against Captain Mark Kelly, retired. 245 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: In accordance with the Uniform Code of Military Justice and 246 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 2: other applicable regulations, a thorough review of these allegations has 247 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: been an initiated to determine further actions, which may include 248 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: recall to active duty for court martial proceedings or administrative measures. 249 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 2: This matter will be handled in compliance with military law, 250 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,239 Speaker 2: ensuring due process and a partiality. 251 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, okay. 252 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 2: Further official comments will be limited to preserve the integrity 253 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: of the Proceedings. Department of War reminds all individuals that 254 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 2: military retirees remain subject to the UCMJ for applicable offenses, 255 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 2: and federal laws such as this particular Code, prohibit actions 256 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 2: intended to interfere with the loyalty, morale, or good order 257 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 2: and discipline of the Armed Forces. Any violations will be 258 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 2: addressed through appropriate legal channels. All service members are reminded 259 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: they have a legal obligation under the UCMJ to obey 260 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: lawful orders, and orders are presumed to be lawful, as 261 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: service members' personal philosophy does not justify or excuse the 262 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: disobedience of an otherwise lawful order. We can put Mark 263 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 2: Kelly's response here up on the screen as well to 264 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 2: get what he was saying. So he says, when I 265 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: was twenty two years old, I commit missed as an 266 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: ensign in the United States Navy and swarn oath to 267 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 2: the Constitution. I upheld that oath through flight school, multiple 268 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: deployments on the USS Midway, thirty nine combat missions in 269 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: Operation Desert Storm, test pilot school for Space Shuttle flights 270 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 2: at NASA, and every day since I retired, which I 271 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: did after my wife Gabby was shot in the head 272 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: while serving her constituents. In combat, I had a missile 273 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 2: blow up next to my jet and flew through anti 274 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: aircraft fire to drop bombs on enemy targets. At NASA, 275 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: I launched on a rocket, commanded the Space Shuttle, and 276 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: was part of the recovery mission that brought home the 277 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 2: bodies of my astronaut classmates who died on Columbia. Did 278 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 2: all of this in service to this country that I 279 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 2: love and has given me so much. Secretary Hegseth's tweet 280 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 2: is the first I heard of this. I also saw 281 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 2: the Presidence posting I should be arrested, hanged, and put 282 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: to death. If this is meant to intimidate me and 283 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 2: other members of Congress from doing our jobs and holding 284 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: this administration accountable, it won't work. I'd given too much 285 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: of this country to be silenced by bullies who care 286 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 2: more about their own power than protecting the constitution. Saga, 287 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 2: I'm curious for your view on this. I mean, in 288 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: some ways, I mean what they said is basically on 289 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 2: its face uncontroversial. That like, hey, if there are illegal orders, 290 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 2: you don't have to follow them, and you actually shouldn't 291 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 2: follow them, which is just Ryan was saying, it's basically like, hey, 292 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 2: don't commit crimes. You know, it's very on its face, 293 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 2: very uncontroversial, but because of the context around it, it 294 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 2: was obviously meant to provoke, and they did that very effectively. 295 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: I mean, it reminded me of a sort of a 296 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: Trumpian tactic. I was like, Oh, these centrists are actually 297 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 2: learning a little bit of something, and now they've created 298 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 2: this whole conversation around Okay, well, which orders would be unlawful? 299 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 2: And what are you talking about? And a whole furor 300 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: around this with the Trump freak out and overreaction here. 301 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: So I wonder what you make of it. 302 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, they they're doing this guy the biggest favor they 303 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 3: ever could Mark. Do you know how much skill it 304 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 3: takes to make Mark Kelly compelling as a figure. It's 305 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 3: one of the most boring guys in mind, look, no 306 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 3: offense to a service, record, not say anything bad, just 307 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 3: saying you know, it's like I've seen the guy in person. 308 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 3: There's not a lot going on there, but you know, 309 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 3: this is the best thing they could have done for him. 310 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 3: In fact, the Democrats have already sent multiple fundraising emails 311 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 3: with that exact same thing. When the headers are all like, 312 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 3: he wants to throw me in prison? They're going to 313 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 3: turn this guy into a resistance hero to recall him 314 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 3: for court martial. By the way, given the conduct now 315 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 3: currently of the way, like the judicial system that they 316 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 3: have their track record, let's say, for example, on the 317 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 3: Komi case, Letitia James, Sandwich guy, multiple of these other 318 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 3: cases they've brought, I wouldn't be so confident, you know 319 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 3: that they can come. 320 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 5: I mean it's obviously. 321 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 2: Ridiculous, right, but you're allowed to like just state the 322 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 2: obligations that they have. 323 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 5: Are going there's nothing illegal about that? 324 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: Or are they going to turn this into a few 325 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: good men? You know, they're going to turn into a 326 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: few good men. 327 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 3: Literally, they're going to it will be the most televised 328 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 3: court martial in US history of cameras outside of the courtroom, 329 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 3: and they turn him into a goddamn hero literally save 330 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 3: his election down there in Arizona. And oh my god, 331 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 3: the amount of fundraising and profile, I mean, there's nothing 332 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 3: else that these guys could want. And again that's the 333 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 3: irony is that this is Mark Kelly we're talking about here. 334 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 2: It rescues them with the Democratic base. Yeah, because all 335 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 2: of these like centrist types and it's like, I mean 336 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: they were, Yeah, they were clever, And then it's annoying 337 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: to me too, Like Slot can get asked about, Okay, 338 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 2: well are there unlawful orders? 339 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 5: And then she's like, oh, I'm not saying that. 340 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 2: It's like, you know what, if you're going to do 341 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 2: this and flirt with us, like just freaking come on 342 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: and say you can at least raise questions about the 343 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: Venezuela shit we just did in this show, you know, 344 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 2: certainly you can speak to that as well, but they can. 345 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: They're getting away with raising questions and like provoking Trump 346 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: without actually having to be against any of the specific actions, 347 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 2: some of which you know, the Venezuela stuff. A bunch 348 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: of Democrats. They may not like how Trump's going about it, 349 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: but they're not out and out opposed, which is why 350 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 2: a lot of Democrats have been very quiet about the 351 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: possibility of regime change in Venezuela. But but yeah, I mean, 352 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: it's completely rescuing them and they're standing with the Democratic base, 353 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 2: making it appear like they're fighting, and I think it 354 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: was sort of a clever and Trumpian tactic. Frankly, here's 355 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: the Pete hegseth response that Mark Kelly had alluded to. 356 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 2: He quote tweeted that original Department of War statement. He says, 357 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 2: the video made by the seditious six was despicable, reckless, 358 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 2: and false. Encouraging our warriors to ignore the orders of 359 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: their commanders undermines every aspect of good order and discipline. 360 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 2: Their foolish screed, so's doubt and confusion, which only puts 361 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 2: our warriors in danger. Five of the six individuals in 362 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 2: that video do not fall under Department of War jurisdiction 363 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 2: one a CIA for our former military but not retired, 364 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 2: so they're no longer subject to UCMJ. However, Mark Kelly, 365 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 2: retired Navy commander, is still subject to UCMJ, and he 366 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 2: knows that, as was announced, the Department is reviewing his 367 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 2: statements and actions, which were addressed directly to all troops 368 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 2: while explicitly using his rank and service affiliation, lending the appearance. 369 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 5: Of authority to his words. 370 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 2: Kelly's conduct brings discredit upon the armed forces and will 371 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 2: be addressed appropriately. So yeah, I mean, this is just 372 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just ridiculous. I mean, and also 373 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 2: for these guys to wax about the order especially Pete Hegseeth. 374 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: I mean, the one thing we know about his leadership 375 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 2: at the Pentagon is it's been nothing but like chaos 376 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: and absurdity the whole time, which is why he's relegated 377 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: to these Twitter fights rather than doing like the big 378 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 2: boy negotiations that are going on right now. 379 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: I mean, to this point about let's go to the 380 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: next one here. Just about that, it just pains me. 381 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: The incompetence, It just pains me. 382 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 3: The judges now dismissed the case against James Comy and 383 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 3: Leticia James after finding the prosecutor was unlawfully appointed. The 384 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 3: judge ruled that Lindsay Halligan was appointed after Trump urged 385 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 3: Japan Bondi to prosecute and the New York Attorney General. 386 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 3: Bondi said Monday, the dj will appeal the judge's ruling. 387 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 3: So these charges against Comy and against Letitia James were dismissed, 388 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 3: quote without prejudice, So that means that it could be 389 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 3: recharged and potentially overturned all of that on appeal. 390 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: Obviously, you know, even with appeal and all of that 391 00:18:59,240 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: is there. 392 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 3: But it's not looking so good considering the way that 393 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 3: Halligan handled the case, considering the grand jury stuff that 394 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 3: we'd revealed there previously, and I mean, it's just going 395 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 3: the same way of so many of these others where 396 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 3: they stand up, they make a big show of it, 397 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 3: and then it hits the judicial system and they're like, yeah, 398 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 3: I don't think so, So there you go. It's a 399 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 3: big story though, just to show how incompletely they handle 400 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 3: the case, because this was one of their flagship ones 401 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 3: against Comy. 402 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, you know, it trys me nuts. I 403 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: don't want to sit. 404 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 3: Here and defend James Comy. I can't stand the guy. 405 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 3: You know, I wanted to be prosecuted, to be honest. 406 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 3: But you know, the way that they've done it is 407 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,959 Speaker 3: just the most incompetent, foolish, ridiculous way. And you know, 408 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 3: then when they lose too it of course, I mean, 409 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 3: it just devalues any potential future argument they have. And 410 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 3: of course Comy, he has rights, and he's multi millionaire 411 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 3: who were able to contest to his defense and his 412 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 3: lawyers already pretty effectively took this one down. They were 413 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 3: the ones who pointed out all of the ineptitude originally 414 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 3: in the case. 415 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and just as a reminder to people. The way 416 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: this went down, you know, the original prosecutor in that 417 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: district that you know, basically was like, there's nothing here 418 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 2: to indict on, and he's pushdowns and they put in 419 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 2: Lindsay Halligan. And that's what this ruling centers around, as 420 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 2: they say she was inappropriately appointed. She's never been involved 421 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 2: in a criminal prosecution before ever, and now you're in 422 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 2: charge of this incredibly high stakes, high profile prosecution of 423 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 2: Jim Comey. She screws everything up about it, you know, 424 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 2: doesn't present the grand jury with the final indictment, so 425 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: was likely to get thrown out for that as well. 426 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 2: Then you also have Trump, you know, just out and 427 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 2: out talking about how he wants this retribution about against Comy, 428 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 2: which also could have gotten the case thrown out as well. 429 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 2: The Letitia James one was just utterly absurd, This claim 430 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 2: of mortgage fraud. Really know, they're there. She had apparently, 431 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 2: you know, checked her real estate broker had checked the 432 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 2: wrong box. Tis James had had emailed the broker said like, no, 433 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 2: this is not my personal home. This is meant to 434 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 2: be for someone else, et cetera. Bill Poulti is this 435 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 2: apparatic within the Housing Administration in the Trump administration is 436 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 2: the one who's been pulling these mortgage fraud cases to 437 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 2: try to make something out of nothing. But in any case, 438 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: both of them get tossed because of Lindsay Halligan's in 439 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 2: appropriate appointment. 440 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 5: And you know, I mean it. 441 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: Matters a lot because the point of these prosecutions was 442 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 2: not even necessarily that they would be successful. They were 443 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 2: meant to frighten the opposition and to send a message, right. 444 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 2: I mean, this was if we think about the Trump 445 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 2: administration coming out of the gates, coercing media, coercing law firms, 446 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 2: coercing universities. This was part of that strategy to strike 447 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 2: fear in the hearts of anyone who would dare oppose them. 448 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: And so when the prosecutions end up this pathetic and shambalic. 449 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 2: I'm not going to say that this has been a 450 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 2: fun experience for Jim Comey, but it feels a lot 451 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 2: less terrifying to be in the sights of this administration. 452 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 2: And when you see the way these things get laughed 453 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 2: out of court and on multiple fronts, are just like 454 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 2: pathetic and ridiculous and shambalic and don't even you know, 455 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 2: don't even stand up to the slightest bit of scrutiny. 456 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 2: So it doesn't exactly send a fearsome message to your 457 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 2: opponents that you better not step out of line when 458 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 2: they fall about when the prosecutions fall apart in such 459 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 2: a dramatic and pathetic way. 460 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 3: Yes, I totally agree. It's it's quite a joke. All right, 461 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 3: let's go to our last segment. Thanks Gibing. 462 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 5: All right, here we go. 463 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 2: So let's start with this sentiment from Scott Besson who 464 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 2: has some holiday advice for everyone about how to deal 465 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 2: with inflation. 466 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 5: Let's take a listen to that. 467 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 4: Christ and I can tell you that the Council and 468 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 4: Economic Advisors has a study. You know, the best way 469 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 4: to bring your inflation rate down move from a blue 470 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 4: state to a red state. Blue state inflation is half 471 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 4: a percent higher, and that is because they don't irregulate. 472 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 4: They keep prices up. 473 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: Energy is higher, So Sager, if you're struggling with healthcare costs, 474 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 2: we're struggling with with rent, if you're struggling with electric 475 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 2: bills because of the data center, build on, just move, 476 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 2: just move. 477 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 478 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 2: Now, if you are already living in one of those 479 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: red states and are struggling and having your electric cut off. 480 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 2: No advice or plans really coming from the administration on that, 481 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 2: but I don't know. 482 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 5: I'm getting some Ben Shapiro. 483 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 3: Vibes, a very Ben Shapiro vibe that we get there 484 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,719 Speaker 3: from the secretary. 485 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 1: Not usually a winning message. 486 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 3: Look, I'm all for people moving if they want to, 487 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 3: but you know, one of the things I hate most 488 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 3: about those types of messages is what if you don't 489 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 3: want to. 490 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: A lot of people don't want to move and not 491 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: like that. 492 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 3: You know, a lot of people want to stay exactly 493 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 3: where they grew up or near their parents, and I 494 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 3: think that's great, and I think they should have the 495 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 3: I think they have the right to do so. And 496 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 3: more importantly, I think policies should be designed to help 497 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 3: those types of people in particular. And so that's one 498 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 3: of the things that really disgusts me about this type 499 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 3: of ideology of like, yeah, who cares about where you 500 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 3: live in your community and where your parents are? If 501 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 3: you want to, you know, just move because you're a widget. 502 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 3: And that's really what a place of living is. I 503 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 3: think anybody who understands the concept of home, that's why 504 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 3: they find it really offensive when Ben Shapiro or a 505 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 3: Scott Bessant says something like that. So that is the 506 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 3: winning message ahead of Thanksgiving. I wonder, you know, I 507 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 3: mean we talked about politics at the table. If you 508 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 3: think about you know, everyone always talks about kitchen table issues, 509 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 3: which is such a trite phrase, but there's obviously something 510 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 3: to it. What are people going to be complaining about 511 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 3: whenever it comes to Thanksgiving. 512 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: I think they will be complaining about housing. 513 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 3: I think they will be complaining about You talked about 514 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 3: data centers, but cost of living, about inflation in one 515 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 3: of the pieces we're about to get, actually, let's just 516 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 3: get to enough F three. Let's put the store prices 517 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 3: in terms of what Thanksgiving dinner is actually going to cost. 518 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 3: There has been some modest decrease in some elements of 519 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 3: the Thanksgiving dinner. 520 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: However, consumers are paying more for some. 521 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 3: Now we have jellied cranberry sauce, we have homestyle gravies, 522 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 3: ing mixed buttermilk biscuits, party pie shells, rusted potatoes, sweet corn, 523 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 3: green beans, and whiptoppings. 524 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: Those have all. 525 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 3: Increased in price by a couple percentage points or in 526 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 3: the case of cranberry sauce, not shore going on with 527 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 3: cranberry market, it's up by forty percent. You will, however, 528 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 3: be playing some two point three percent less whenever it 529 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 3: comes to turkey, and some five percent less for pumpkin 530 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 3: pie mix. So if you put it all in the aggregate, 531 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 3: it does look like it's gonna cost a little bit 532 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 3: more than it did last year. 533 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 1: Or at the basket of. 534 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 3: An ingredients for Thanksgiving, some four point one percent more 535 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 3: than last year, but not a horrible increase whenever it 536 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 3: comes to the main staples. It did say though, that 537 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,959 Speaker 3: you're pretty lucky that the mainstay meal of Thanksgiving is 538 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 3: not beef, because that's up some fifteen percent year over year, 539 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 3: in particular if you go and you look at the 540 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 3: steak section. So it's one of those where this what 541 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 3: gets me is, you know, the it's not just about 542 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 3: mess because right now there's all this talk in the 543 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 3: White House it's about messaging. It's about No, it's not message. 544 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 3: I used to say this to what Biden. It's a 545 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 3: reality problem. You can't message or chart post your way 546 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 3: out of increase in price and malaise and the feeling 547 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 3: that not much is happening. 548 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: That's it. 549 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 3: That's politics, period. You can never convince somebody that what 550 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 3: they feel is not correct. 551 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: You just can't. 552 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 3: You really can't, especially whenever it comes to cost of living, 553 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 3: which is where the vast majority of people feel a 554 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 3: lot of precarity and they feel as if the basics 555 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 3: are not attainable, or if they are attainable, you have 556 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 3: to work much harder and get by in a way 557 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 3: that you did not necessarily have to when your parents 558 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 3: were growing up. And that's the essence of the overall 559 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 3: American dream. So, if anything, I feel like that might 560 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 3: be a topic of conversation at Thanksgiving, and I think 561 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 3: it should be. 562 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: I think it should be because that's really what I mean. 563 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 3: When I bond with a lot of people, That's usually 564 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 3: what it comes down to, Like, man, do you believe 565 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 3: the cost of this? 566 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: Can you believe that? 567 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 3: I don't think that's how most people should want to 568 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 3: spend their leisure time, but that's what it ends up being. 569 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: I think for most. 570 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 2: People, I want to be at the Thanksgiving dinner tables 571 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 2: where they're talking Epstein personally. 572 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: You know what's funny. 573 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 3: You know what's funny when this guy goes because I, 574 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 3: you know, I don't generally try to talk about politics, 575 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 3: or because I get it. You know, it's like this 576 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 3: is my job and all of that, and so most 577 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 3: people don't necessarily want to get into it. But Epstein 578 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 3: people are always asked, no matter where I go in relatives, 579 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 3: they love that's the Epstein question is the one. And 580 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,239 Speaker 3: I'm always like, sit down, grab a drink, let's talk. 581 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 3: Let's where we're going to go back. I'll be like, 582 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 3: let me tell you about the Dalton School in nineteen 583 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 3: seventy eight, and they're like, oh man, I'm like, yeah, 584 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 3: we're going to go. We're going together. Buckle up for 585 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 3: the ride. So that's what That's what Thanksgiving with me is. 586 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: Like I saw someone on Twitter saying that Zoron with 587 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: Trump pulled the classic leftist Thanksgiving move of talking about 588 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 2: how much you hate liberals and then just sleeping everything else. 589 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 5: Meg. 590 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: I like that. 591 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 2: I think there's a lot to do that, especially definitely 592 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 2: probably like you know, railed against the media. There were 593 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: some allusions to that in the media in the meeting 594 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 2: of like, oh, that one the media did actually get 595 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: right about me saying that, So I think he had 596 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 2: previously talked about how oh the media says that says 597 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 2: these things about me. 598 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 5: They're not really true, you know. 599 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 2: Just the way the media mischaracterizes you, it's the same 600 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 2: way they mischaracterize me. So, you know, if you're on 601 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 2: the left and you're looking to bond with the conservative, 602 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 2: that's always a way. 603 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 5: But I actually feel sager. 604 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: You know, I understand the country is very divided, but 605 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 2: I do actually feel like there are a lot of 606 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 2: issues now that would be places where whether you're left liberal, 607 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 2: you know, right, maga, whatever, where you could you could 608 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 2: find some common ground. I think you could talk about healthcare. 609 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 2: I think you could talk about cost of living. I 610 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 2: think you could talk about wars. I think you could 611 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 2: talk about data centers. I think I think you could 612 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 2: talk about Epstein. I think there are a lot of 613 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 2: areas where you probably unless you have someone who is 614 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 2: just an absolute, you know, psychoideologue, which is never worth 615 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: talking to those people anyway, where you could actually have 616 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: a reasonable conversation in exchange of ideas. 617 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 5: And I do support that. I think that's healthy for. 618 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 3: People to be able to do totally agree. All right, 619 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 3: last page, I had to get this in here. The 620 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 3: Secretary of Transportation, so Thanksgiving travel right now is a 621 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 3: shit show. Right, Airline travel has been horrible ever since 622 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,239 Speaker 3: the shutdown. The Secretary of Transportation after my heart, and 623 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 3: only my heart, because nobody else wants to hear this message. 624 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 3: Here's what he had to say. 625 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 6: We have to think about how do we do a 626 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 6: better job, How do we you know, maintain maybe some 627 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 6: of that frustration we have as we travel this Thanksgiving season. 628 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 6: Maybe we should say please and thank you to our 629 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 6: pilots and to our to our flight attendants. I think again, 630 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 6: I call this just maybe dressing with some respect, you know, 631 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 6: whether it's a pair of jeans and a and a 632 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 6: and a decent shirt. I would encourage people to maybe 633 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 6: dress a little better, which encourage us, encourages us to 634 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 6: maybe behave all a little better. Let's try not to 635 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 6: wear slippers and pajamas as we come to the airport. 636 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 3: He's right, no pajamas at the airport. He is absolutely right. 637 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 3: Now that said, because people are going to get mad, 638 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 3: I hear. Here's my nuanced take on this is the 639 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 3: airlines have now treated us like shit for twenty years, 640 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 3: and by miserating people by nickel and diming, by making 641 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 3: cattle boarding and treating everybody like shit, and then also 642 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 3: by you know, oh, the beverage cost, creating the smallest 643 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 3: seats and all of that. Ever, their decline in standards 644 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 3: is then reflected in the way people think about travel. 645 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 3: So if travel is going to be an emiserating, you know, 646 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 3: horrible experience, then yes, nobody is going to dress up 647 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 3: to go to the airport. And so my grand bargain 648 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 3: is the airlines have to treat us better and in exchange, we. 649 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: Will show up better to the airport. That is my 650 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: grand bargain. 651 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 5: I'll take that. Yeah, I'll take that. 652 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 2: I mean I will also say, like, listen, Thanksgiving travel, 653 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 2: you're talking about usually traveling with your kids. You know, 654 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 2: at some ungodly hour, everyone is miserable. Like the least 655 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: you can do is try to be a little bit comfies. 656 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 2: No judgment there. I feel like the only people who 657 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 2: really dress up for air travel at this point are 658 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 2: like gay men and Instagram mom. 659 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: Oh, that's that's absolutely incorrect. That that's a direct shot 660 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: at me. No, I'll tell you. 661 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 5: Do you really dress up for the airports? 662 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 3: Are? 663 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: I mean I don't. 664 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 3: I don't wear a full suit, but I you know, 665 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 3: I'm trying to think. I think I maybe flew in 666 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 3: sweats once and that was that was India to us. 667 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 3: You know, in my in my defense, it was a 668 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 3: sixteen and a half hour flight DELI to flown. 669 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 2: You haven't flown a lot with with Priya yet? 670 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 4: No? 671 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: Only yeah, only one. Yeah, I will say with children too. 672 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 3: It would be difficult because you know, do I really 673 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 3: want to spit up all over the st Yeah? 674 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: Maybe on you. 675 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 2: It's rolling on you and you know you're changing diapers 676 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 2: and whatever, you're gonna be dressed up for that. 677 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 3: I changed, I changed diapers in a suit, and it's 678 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 3: been an unfortunate situation which I had. 679 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 5: You do what you got to do. 680 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, you know, the when you're dealing 681 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 2: with a baby or a toddler, young child like that 682 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 2: just told changes the calculation. You're just in survival mode, 683 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 2: you know. And if if you're if your comfort is 684 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 2: going to make things like one percent easier, then I 685 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 2: say absolutely. 686 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: Go for it. 687 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 2: Right, new parents to dress definitely a comfort and ease 688 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 2: airport dresser. Right, I'm going to have shoes that are 689 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 2: slip ons so it's easy to get through security. I 690 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 2: don't have fancy like that. 691 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, security component there are. 692 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 2: Going to be layers involved, because you know, the airplane 693 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 2: is it's either going to be like twenty degrees or 694 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 2: one hundred degrees, So you either need to be able 695 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,959 Speaker 2: to like take off the jacket or put the jacket 696 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 2: on or the blanket or whatever you've got. So hair 697 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 2: is going to be in a ponytail. Let's that's the 698 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 2: way it's going to be. So all right, I mean listen, 699 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 2: if you're right, if they up the standards, maybe that 700 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 2: would we all personally. 701 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 5: That's the reality. 702 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 3: My thing is, I remember in Japan everyone is dressed 703 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 3: incredibly and I was thinking about and I go, you know, 704 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 3: I really think it's not just that, it's that everything 705 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 3: there is nice. When the subway system is nice and 706 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 3: it's clean, and everything is you know, is either upgrade 707 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 3: or very well kempt than you yourself want to feel 708 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 3: well kemp when you're taking or using that. There are 709 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 3: all these viral videos I encourage people to go watch 710 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 3: of people walking around Tokyo with white socks and then 711 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 3: they look at the bottom of their feet and it's 712 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 3: still it's like pristine. They'll walk through the busiest streets 713 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 3: of Tokyo wearing white, clean, white socks there's barely. 714 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: Any black on there. 715 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 3: Another person, you know, the escalator black thing like when 716 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 3: you're going up the escalator the handrail. They compare the 717 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 3: New York City subway one, which is pitch black by 718 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 3: the time they get up to the top, to the 719 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 3: Tokyo subway, barely any residue. When things are like that, 720 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 3: then you don't feel bad about, you know, dressing nicely 721 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 3: and you don't feel filthy like subway clothes for New York. 722 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 3: So anyway, that's my overall take. You can talk about 723 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 3: that at Thanksgiving therapy. 724 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 5: There you go. 725 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 2: Well, Sager Emily has We've learned during the course of 726 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 2: the show. We got some more information about this Baja 727 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 2: Blast pie that you're gonna be trying apparently talk about 728 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 2: already discontinued. 729 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:04,719 Speaker 5: And I guess it was not much of a hit. 730 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: So she had made it. 731 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 5: She had made it. 732 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 2: She sent us pictures of her boiling the Baja blast 733 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 2: on her That pot. 734 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: Will never be the same. It will never be the same, 735 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: that pot. 736 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 2: So yeah, what would what would RFK Junior say? You know, 737 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,439 Speaker 2: he's just gonna be just gonna be shaking his head. 738 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 2: I'm I'm a little sad that I won't be there 739 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 2: to try. You have to tell me how it is. 740 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 2: I am a a little bit concerned. Emily is trying 741 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 2: to take you out and take your slot, but you know. 742 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,439 Speaker 3: I think you're I think you probably she can happen 743 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 3: as long as I get my Baja blast pie, all right. 744 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: I'll be honest. I'm not a big pie guy. I 745 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 1: hate to say it. 746 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 2: I know. 747 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: I'm from Texas. Pecan pie was oh pecan pie. You 748 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: know Peacan pine. It's too sugary, it's kind of gross. 749 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: I hate to say a fan. 750 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 5: I am a fan. I do have a favorite. Okay, 751 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 5: but if you're gonna eat a pie, what's your favorite pie? 752 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 3: Like pumpkin pie because it's got that and it's not 753 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 3: too sweet. You know, I have anything to ap. 754 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 5: I'm an apple pie fan. That's probably my number one. 755 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I do enjoy all of I like a 756 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 2: cherry pie, I like a pecan pie, I like a 757 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 2: pumpkin pie. I'll take it all, but probably my number 758 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:15,439 Speaker 2: one is classic apple pie ala mode with some whip 759 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 2: cream as well. 760 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 5: That's you can't go wrong with it. 761 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds pretty good. That sounds good. I wouldn't 762 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 1: put the vanilla ice cream, though you got to put 763 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,439 Speaker 1: the whip cream. That's in my opinion, Watt. I don't 764 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: have a big sweet tooth. You know, I'm not a 765 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: big sweets guy. But we'll see, we'll see. I do 766 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: like Baja Blast diet, my blast. It's good. 767 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 3: All right, Let's get to the AMA Live producer Mac 768 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 3: and I will be eating the Baja Blast pie live 769 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 3: on camera. 770 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: So that's why you should sign up. Break your points on. 771 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 2: And Happy Thanksgiving to everyone and soccer and I will 772 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 2: see you guys next week. 773 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 3: Save travels everyone. Uh, we'll see you all on Monday.