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Speaker 2: My boyfriend keeps messaging cam girls. This is the third

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Speaker 2: time I've caught him.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm about to message him that we're breaking up.

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Speaker 2: My boyfriend twenty six male and I twenty four female,

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Speaker 2: have been dating for over a year and a half now,

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Speaker 2: and besides this one issue, we get along swimmingly. I

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Speaker 2: love this man so much and know that he loves me,

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Speaker 2: but he has hurt me for possibly the last time.

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Speaker 2: Storytime subreddit. So this is the third time one two

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Speaker 2: three count him up that he has done this? Yes,

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Speaker 2: and I am sick with rage and don't know what

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Speaker 2: to do. We know what to do become a cam girl.

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Speaker 3: Fool me one's shame on me. Fol me twice is

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Speaker 3: shame on you.

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Speaker 2: I am his first serious relationship ever. Before we got together,

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Speaker 2: he was messaging camgirls since he was seventeen and sending

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Speaker 2: them money. Is this the male loneliness problem reading its

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Speaker 2: ugly head right now? He is a real sweetheart, my boyfriend,

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Speaker 2: but not too social. I was the one who made

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Speaker 2: the first move and asked him out. A month into

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Speaker 2: our relationship. I was on Twitter and connecting my contacts.

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Speaker 2: I added his email and an account with the handle

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Speaker 2: at steam for Mayhem, not an actual account, but along

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Speaker 2: those lines. Curious I clicked on this account and was

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Speaker 2: shocked beyond belief. I don't have the energy to go

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Speaker 2: into what the finn Dom community is like, but do

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Speaker 2: a quick Google search and you'll get the idea. People

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Speaker 2: who don't know what that is. It's where it's like

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Speaker 2: I give you money and you're like, you're gross for

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Speaker 2: giving me money, and then I give you more money.

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Speaker 2: So they're essentially just paying money to be demeaned, and

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Speaker 2: then they pay more money. So that is what his

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Speaker 2: account was like, and also had pictures of himself in

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Speaker 2: subclothing The account had not been used in two years,

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Speaker 2: but I was still upset about it. I talked about

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Speaker 2: and said that if he had questions or concerns to

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Speaker 2: his past. He deleted the account. Cut to six months later.

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Speaker 2: I have his phone and I'm using it to find

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Speaker 2: thanking him for a transfer of one hundred dollars to PayPal.

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Speaker 2: We are not rich people, and he had recently been

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Speaker 2: complaining about finances that day, but wanted to take me

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Speaker 2: worse as I did something I never did with any

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Speaker 2: of my other boyfriends. I snooped, snooped hard. I found

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Speaker 2: out that he had been sending money to multiple women

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Speaker 2: I waited to see if he would come clean and

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Speaker 2: I didn't talk with him for three days before he

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Speaker 2: he didn't tell me because he didn't want to lose

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Speaker 2: He blocked her. I gave him an ultimatum, do this again,

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Speaker 3: Are we counting this as the second strike or the

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Speaker 2: I think this is strike number two.

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Speaker 3: So the first strike was just that he had a passed.

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Speaker 2: Because of my lost trust and paranoia, I did something

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Speaker 3: It's time to leave. You can't get away with this.

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Speaker 2: Is this something you want to do forever? So I

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Speaker 2: I found out about this last incident. I've been having

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Speaker 2: So I asked him every day and he said nothing

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Speaker 2: I was so sick I couldn't sleep. And you know what,

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Speaker 2: stop doing it.

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Speaker 3: Break up with them.

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Speaker 2: You're snooping and you're finding the stuff you should be snooping,

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Speaker 2: I guess, but if you already have to snoop, it's over.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that he did this again. He lied

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Speaker 2: Going through more messages, I found out he video chatted

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Speaker 2: he was doing. Not sure if that was a part

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Speaker 2: buying these Why I have a girlfriend, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: But you know what, regardless, girl, this guy's got some

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Speaker 2: He apologized over and over, and I just and still

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Speaker 2: can't grasp why he did it again. We are going

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Speaker 2: He calls me every day. We hang out together every day.

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Speaker 2: He talked about moving in together for the past six months.

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Speaker 2: Sy he's been doing this since August. We talked for

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Speaker 3: Ah.

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Speaker 2: Not the move I would take, but it is true.

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Speaker 2: Clearly this guy does need help.

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Speaker 3: He does, but you don't need to be there while

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Speaker 2: He has given me all the passwords to his social media, emails,

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Speaker 2: little dumb But I just don't know. Okay, I still

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Speaker 2: this subreddit is quick to say give up, but I

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Speaker 2: But this hurts a lot wrong.

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Speaker 3: Listen to the people who are saying give up.

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Speaker 2: If this is a once in a lifetime bond and

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Speaker 2: it's this one thing that he clearly has, like a

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Speaker 2: but the moment you feel like you need to snoop again,

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Speaker 3: The thing is like, not only is he lying, to you,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to go through this again, and I

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Speaker 2: don't know if a therapist will help. And there's an update,

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Speaker 2: let's dive in. He is going to a therapist on

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Speaker 2: Friday by himself. He saw the post and thinks everyone

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Speaker 4: Maybe he likes that, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I feel like he likes that. He's into that.

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Speaker 2: You know, wants me to go with him after his

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Speaker 2: first appointment, and I'm still unsure what I'll do on

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Speaker 2: the fence about it. He's taking a step and I

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Speaker 2: Willing to work on it as long as he does too.

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Speaker 2: Thank you all again for the solid advice and messages.

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Speaker 2: And there's some comments here comment number one. Honestly, I

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Speaker 2: out and berating him for it, so that's why he continues, OPI.

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Speaker 2: Break up with him. You can't work with that. He

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Speaker 2: by the way, newsflash, if that was the case, he

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Speaker 2: I don't wanna taste what you taste like at all.

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Speaker 2: I'm uninterested in consuming you. A Cannibal's not gonna tell

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Speaker 2: I have an impregnation fetish and love the idea of it,

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Speaker 2: but don't want children. If it did happen, I would

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Speaker 2: be devastated. Girl, What did you just say? Do you

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Speaker 2: just like the rush of it? It's a nine month rush.

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Speaker 2: No excuses on his part, just his answer. I don't

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Speaker 2: going to fix this? How is he showing he's going

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Speaker 2: to get help? Opie says, who knows? I's tom nat

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Speaker 2: king him questions? Go break up with him? I told

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Speaker 2: him showing is better than telling. I'm not giving you

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Speaker 2: ideas of what I want. Ask me what I want

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Speaker 2: besides dinner. Be invested as you were with their videos

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Speaker 2: and their pay pig, as you should be with me

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Speaker 2: as a person. If not, I'm gone, and there is

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Speaker 2: an update.

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Speaker 3: Be gone, go stop staying there.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes the simplest solution is to be gone, just moving

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Speaker 2: on with our lives. Update. I wasted another year of

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Speaker 2: my life. Wow, we're all shocked by trying to help

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Speaker 2: a person that never helped themselves, and I'm paying for

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Speaker 2: it in every way imaginable. I introduced him to the

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Speaker 2: stop Findam's subreddit. We went to therapy three times, only

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Speaker 2: initiated when I caught him. I tried avoiding it. I

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Speaker 2: tried confronting him. Nothing worked because he never stopped the cycle.

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Speaker 2: I was going to study abroad in Asia in December,

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Speaker 2: and I did not need this on my mind before

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Speaker 2: I went so very impromptu. On November sixteenth, I decided

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Speaker 2: I could not be with him anymore. I was sick

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Speaker 2: of feeling used and lied to about something that he

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Speaker 2: didn't need to lie about. I didn't have solid proof.

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Speaker 3: You literally have so much proof, and you looked at

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Speaker 2: Learn from these mistakes. Folks, When someone's kink is lying

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Speaker 2: over and over again. I felt he was hiding something

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Speaker 2: an engagement ring his mom gave to him as I

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Speaker 2: We didn't speak at all while I was away, and

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Speaker 2: I wish it had stayed that way. I came back

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Speaker 2: over the January and our lease isn't up until February,

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Speaker 2: so I decided we could live together until then. And

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Speaker 2: it was great until Monday, or at least I thought so. Anyway.

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Speaker 2: We were talking openly about our feelings and he kept

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Speaker 2: apologizing for everything that went wrong. I still wanted to

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Speaker 2: be my friend hard No, it wasn't until this last

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Speaker 2: Monday that he got a new phone and switched over

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Speaker 2: his simcard to his new one while he was at work.

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Speaker 2: His old phone kept going off, so I looked at it.

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Speaker 2: I fully acknowledged that since we aren't together, I had

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Speaker 2: I'm proud I can see him for who he actually is.

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Speaker 2: Grow It took you too long. Can't be proud.

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Speaker 3: You can't be that proud if you get the answer

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Speaker 3: like four years later. You can't be that proud.

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Speaker 2: You literally started this story with I wasted another year

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Speaker 2: of my life. Can't be proud of that. I found

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Speaker 2: out he went to see one of the doms he

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Speaker 2: was cheating on me with in La and never stopped

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Speaker 2: talking to her even before we broke up. And he's

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Speaker 2: fifteen thousand dollars in debt from sending multiple doms money.

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Speaker 3: That's shocking, that's news.

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Speaker 2: He always told me. One of the traits he doesn't

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Speaker 2: like about me is how badly I handled money. Hor

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Speaker 2: horror projecting. Much after I saw this, I puked, packed

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Speaker 2: and unless it was about the apartment, I never wanted

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Speaker 2: to hear from him again. We've been avoiding each other since.

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Speaker 2: I've been slowly moving my things out and putting it

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Speaker 2: in storage, and I just feel emotionally defeated. I went

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Speaker 2: pretty subpar spicy texting as well. He acknowledges that he

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Speaker 2: to which she replies that's called deceit, not cheating. He's

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Speaker 2: glad that it was her, Glad that he can finally

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Speaker 2: make someone happy, Glad he can please his goddess, glad

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Speaker 2: to be free, upset that I never understood him. Wow,

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Speaker 2: what a goof lol, girl, you're being goofy right now.

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Speaker 2: You're a pan of goofs.

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Speaker 4: You entertained this girl.

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Speaker 2: And now you're looking at stuff you don't even need

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Speaker 2: to look at if you're.

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Speaker 3: Sitting there watching a comedian you paid for that man.

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Speaker 2: So, he is so disillusioned and addicted to this lifestyle

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Speaker 2: he's in the right. He thinks she's actual his friend

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Speaker 2: while she goes out to dinner with her boyfriend with

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Speaker 2: his money and is using him for emotional support, something

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Speaker 2: he complained about to her about me and how he

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Speaker 2: loved emotionally effing with me. See there it is. She's

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Speaker 2: being paid thousands of dollars to stroke their ego, though,

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Speaker 2: so I think I would understand that you have to

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Speaker 2: keep the customer happy. She got five hundred dollars out

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Speaker 2: of that LA visit, which is pretty impressive. If you

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Speaker 2: ask me, just stop move on with your life. Your

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Speaker 2: hobby can't be digging into your ex boyfriend's weird findom habits.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I should say that I respect spicy

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Speaker 2: sleep workers in everything that they do a lot, but

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Speaker 2: this specific dom is manipulative and has no boundaries. She's

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Speaker 2: a half bake amateur and best who really has no

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Speaker 2: clue on how to even pretend to know what she's doing.

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Speaker 2: She gives actual doms a bad name. This is the

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Speaker 2: twist OPI is now going to become a DOM and

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Speaker 2: get her gross ex back. By becoming the dom, She's

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Speaker 2: going to put him into another fifteen thousand dollars worth

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Speaker 2: of debt after the breakup. Anyone who is a proper

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Speaker 2: domb and actually cared about their subs well being would

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Speaker 2: never do the crap that these two concocted like sending

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Speaker 2: me a picture of her butt and saying she only

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Speaker 2: did it because he asked her to, asking him how

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Speaker 2: he's going to spoil me today, and him telling her

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Speaker 2: that she's going to take me to get my nails

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Speaker 2: done as a surprise, him telling her how unappreciative I

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Speaker 2: am of his gifts because they don't feel genuine, which

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Speaker 2: they weren't. I never consented to any of this, and

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Speaker 2: this crap has f me up for life. But get this,

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Speaker 2: she's an advocate for mental wellness. What a joke. She

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Speaker 2: praised him for getting out of a toxic relationship and

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Speaker 2: was glad he could be free from all of my

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Speaker 2: nagging and that I wouldn't hold this over his head anymore. Again,

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Speaker 2: either she's really good at customer satisfaction or really crappy person,

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Speaker 2: more than likely both. But he never told her that

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Speaker 2: I was the one who actually ended the relationship. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: he never changed. He talked a big game, but is

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Speaker 2: so deep into the world of cam girling and himself

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Speaker 2: that he's willing to risk everything for it. I should

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Speaker 2: have listened to everyone's advice and left when I had

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Speaker 2: the chance. Yeah, you shut up. I shouldn't have moved

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Speaker 2: in with him. Instead, I was emotionally mistreated by a

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Speaker 2: self absorbed person who felt that he did everything he could.

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Speaker 2: A direct quote he said to the Finn Doom he

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Speaker 2: never stopped talking to for the past six months. To

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Speaker 2: those that are questioning and still have hope for the hopeless,

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Speaker 2: get out while you can. You can't change anyone that

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Speaker 2: doesn't want to change themselves. You can't convince someone they're

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Speaker 2: in the wrong once they see they're in the right.

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Speaker 2: You may think that other people may not know them

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Speaker 2: as well as you do. It's just something you tell

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Speaker 2: yourself to avoid the actual truth that you're sacrificing yourself

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Speaker 2: for someone who won't even do the same for you.

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Speaker 2: Take care of yourself first, because you're only damaging yourself

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Speaker 2: in the long run. Sorry if this looks all over

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Speaker 2: the place, By the way, as happy as I am

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Speaker 2: that I made the decision to leave, I am super

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Speaker 2: depressed and feel like I failed. I know this is

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Speaker 2: all his fault, but I feel like I should have

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Speaker 2: seen this coming. That besides this one thing, he was amazing,

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Speaker 2: but it was a lie. Read it really helped me

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Speaker 2: and the last time, and that's the only reason I'm

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Speaker 2: posting here because I haven't slept in the past three

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Speaker 2: days and could really use some support. And we'll probably

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Speaker 2: regret posting this later. And there's another up.

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Speaker 4: Dude, just get out.

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Speaker 2: You haven't slept in three days.

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Speaker 4: Over this guy, Over this guy and him talking about

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Speaker 4: these came girls.

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Speaker 2: You should be sleeping like a little baby wrapped in

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Speaker 2: a nice, warm blanket. But you know, sometimes time provides perspective.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes we want to take steps backwards, but instead we

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Speaker 2: had to take steps forwards. Update Holy Canoli. I went

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Speaker 2: to sleep and came back to one thousand up votes.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for the platinum and it's over. I truly appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: The comments are overwhelming and I'm trying to upboate them all,

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Speaker 2: but I am beyond grateful. And here's a couple of

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Speaker 2: notes for those that don't google Findama's financial domination. I

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Speaker 2: don't have a problem with this. We actually tried it together.

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Speaker 2: I was uncomfortable with it, mainly because I linked it

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Speaker 2: with his cheating. In line, I expressed that I wanted

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Speaker 2: to be monogamous, and he stated that he wanted help

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Speaker 2: and he felt sick and wanted to change. I said

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Speaker 2: that if this is what he wants to do. That's fine,

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Speaker 2: and I'm fine with that, but I just don't want

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Speaker 2: to be deceived and used. Just communicate with me. But

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Speaker 2: as I found out from the messages, he loved emotionally

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Speaker 2: manipulating me and loved to see me hurt. He got

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Speaker 2: all off on my pain, which is a direct quote,

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Speaker 2: which again, the person who does that is never going

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Speaker 2: to tell you to your face that they do that.

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Speaker 2: It's like asking the guy who robbed the bank, did

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Speaker 2: you rob the bank? That's kind of what you did.

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Speaker 2: He also had a home wrecking fetish, but I guess

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Speaker 2: it loses the appeal if I consent to the home wrecking.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, you can home wreck us all day,

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Speaker 2: every day. All you have to do is go to

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Speaker 2: any podcast platform, be it Spotify, Apple Podcasts, wherever you

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Speaker 2: get your podcasts, search Okay story Time, and there you

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Speaker 2: can listen to full episodes with stories like this. And

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Speaker 2: right now we're at forty nine days worth of stories

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Speaker 2: for you to listen to, and we're always adding more.

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Speaker 2: Let's finish this story, and we have a mini rant.

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Speaker 2: Don't do this to partners who have no interest in

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Speaker 2: your spicy hobbies or you have not had that conversation

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Speaker 2: with them on what they are okay within the relationship. Communicate,

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Speaker 2: give them the option to decide on what they're comfortable with,

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Speaker 2: not what you think they're okay with. Don't hurt someone

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Speaker 2: else if they express his interest and give you an

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Speaker 2: open opportunit needed to leave, but you are so selfish

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Speaker 2: that you'd rather lie to them and put up a

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Speaker 2: facade of wanting help. And that is the end of

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Speaker 2: that story. And I feel like, OHPI has earned that

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Speaker 2: because you did go through a lot. However, how much

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Speaker 2: of it was self imposed. You should have left, You

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Speaker 2: had the out, And it's like you can be mad

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Speaker 2: at the people who are doing this to their partners

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Speaker 2: to a much higher degree than the people who are staying.

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Speaker 2: But also why are you staying?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my mother in law hid my husband's a air

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Speaker 3: because she knows I'm going to evict them.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of moving pieces to that. I can

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Speaker 2: neither confirm nor deny the validity of these options.

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Speaker 3: Yet, two months ago I found out my husband had

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Speaker 3: been cheating on me since we got married, which was

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Speaker 3: almost a year ago. I have suspicions that it probably

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Speaker 3: went much farther back than that, but I don't know

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Speaker 3: how long it's been going on in total, and I

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Speaker 3: personally don't want to know more details than I have to.

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Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from deleted and if you

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Speaker 3: want to smit your own stories, go to our slashoky

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Speaker 3: storytime suburt it.

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Speaker 1: Ye.

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Speaker 3: Ever since I found out, I have been set on

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Speaker 3: pursuing divorce and I keep communication with him at a minimum.

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Speaker 3: We don't have kids. Evicting my husband out of the

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Speaker 3: house was a given. It was relatively easy to do

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Speaker 3: because the house is in my name. I inherited it

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Speaker 3: from my mother. The dilemma involves his mother, my mother

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Speaker 3: in law. She lives in our guest room and my

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Speaker 3: husband has taken the role of her caretaker since he

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Speaker 3: only works part time. She's not in a facility because

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Speaker 3: she doesn't need constant revision. She just needs help with

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Speaker 3: bathing and being taken to her physical therapy sessions. Before

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Speaker 3: anyone asks, yes, I did my part in caring for

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Speaker 3: her too. He was her main caretaker because I worked

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Speaker 3: full time and he didn't. I cooked, clean and did

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Speaker 3: her laundry. I also drove her to her appointments when

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Speaker 3: my husband couldn't. Only thing I wasn't comfortable with was

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Speaker 3: the bathing. Despite not wanting my husband to be in

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Speaker 3: know that once the divorce was finalized, she would have

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Speaker 3: to find somewhere else to live, whether that be with him,

435
00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,919
Speaker 3: his siblings, or with other family. I felt bad about it,

436
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 3: but I decided that I needed a clean break from

437
00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,040
Speaker 3: him and, by extension, his family once we were done.

438
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,280
Speaker 3: I was not willing to permanently house my mother in

439
00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 3: law in my home if it meant that I had

440
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,159
Speaker 3: to continue interacting with him. I suggested that he planned

441
00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 3: arrangements ahead of time so that we weren't scrambling to

442
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:15,399
Speaker 3: find housing.

443
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 2: He seems fine with that.

444
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 3: At first, I was okay with my husband only returning

445
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,640
Speaker 3: home to take care of his mother as long as

446
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,400
Speaker 3: he didn't interact with me. I would usually be out

447
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,600
Speaker 3: of the home during the time he'd come over. Anyways,

448
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,440
Speaker 3: he broke that rule once he started begging and pleading

449
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,919
Speaker 3: me for reconciliation. I absolutely refused. He then asked if

450
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 3: he could at least live in my house until the

451
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 3: divorce was finalized, which.

452
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:39,400
Speaker 2: I also refused.

453
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 3: At that point, I was scared that he would try

454
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 3: to forcefully move back in, so I had the locks

455
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,120
Speaker 3: changed and didn't give him a new key. I made

456
00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:47,639
Speaker 3: sure that I was there to receive him at the

457
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 3: door whenever he came to care for his mother. So

458
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,639
Speaker 3: his mom is still living with Opee, but he can't come.

459
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 3: I later found out he was desperate for housing because

460
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,399
Speaker 3: none of his friends at the space for him. They

461
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 3: all lived in apartments with multi roommates. His siblings were

462
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 3: not willing to house him or help him find housing

463
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 3: after they found out he cheated on me. The reason

464
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 3: I'm asking is if I'm the a hole, because I

465
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 3: now want to expedite moving my mother in law out.

466
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,440
Speaker 3: She told me that she discovered that my husband was

467
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,359
Speaker 3: cheating on me over a year ago, which was also

468
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 3: when we were still engaged. We were living in my

469
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 3: house back then, and my idiot of a husband then

470
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 3: fiance was caught because he brought one of his side

471
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,880
Speaker 3: pieces to our home. He thought my mother in law

472
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 3: was fast asleep, but she wasn't. She later confronted him

473
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 3: and threatened him to come clean to me or she

474
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 3: would My husband reassured her that he would tell me, but.

475
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 2: Obviously never did.

476
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 3: My mother in law kept quiet about it all this

477
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,880
Speaker 3: time because she believed I forgave him.

478
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,680
Speaker 2: Being go here, we go. I was about to say,

479
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 2: there's only one situation where this is okay, and it's

480
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 2: that exact situation was she brought it up. He's like,

481
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 2: I will tell her, and then he never tells her.

482
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 2: But then she just assumes, Oh, I guess they worked

483
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 2: it out.

484
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 3: I feel like you got to do a follow up there, though.

485
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 2: But it's such a like remember that thing, you probably

486
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 2: never want to think about it again that you talked

487
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 2: through and got over. I guess how's that going.

488
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 3: She thought that since the wedding went as planned and

489
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 3: without delay, that I didn't have any lingering issues from

490
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 3: his infidelity. My mother in law was also under the

491
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 3: impression that he stopped his affairs, but that was only

492
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,879
Speaker 3: because my husband got smarter quote unquote and never brought

493
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 3: anyone to the home again quote unquote smarter, because that

494
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 3: was already a pretty stupid move. After hearing all that,

495
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 3: I no longer felt comfortable having her in my house.

496
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 3: I wanted her to move out asap. She apologized, but

497
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,160
Speaker 3: I just didn't want to hear it. Of course, I'm

498
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 3: angriest with my husband for what he did, but I

499
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 3: also feel betrayed by her. At any point, she could

500
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 3: have let me know about what he did. Maybe she

501
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 3: could have even asked me during the wedding preparations. If

502
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 3: I was really okay with forgiving his cheating, then at

503
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 3: least I would have found out before we got married.

504
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 3: She just assumed that I knew and was totally fine

505
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 3: with it. I know there are people who forgive their

506
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 3: spouses for cheating, but I don't think that they act

507
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 3: completely normal and happy, which is how I was. That's

508
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 3: because I was in the dark about everything. I also

509
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 3: feel like she should have been suspicious that we didn't

510
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 3: cancel or postpone our wedding date, given that she discovered

511
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 3: the cheating only a few months before it. I feel

512
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 3: like either she's like kind of dumb, or she didn't

513
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 3: like fully believe that he said anything, but she didn't

514
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:17,919
Speaker 3: want to dig deeper.

515
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 2: It's like she was kind of playing the minor business card,

516
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 2: and also the I don't want to take a side

517
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 2: that's not my son's, and then also I probably want

518
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 2: to believe that my son's not a bad guy. There's

519
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 2: a lot of interesting psychology going on in this decision

520
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 2: to be quiet. I for one, I'll give her the pass.

521
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 3: On that, but I don't think OPO's her living in

522
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 3: her house.

523
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 2: Does not owe her that. I just mean, like, I

524
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 2: don't think that she was withholding it in a nefarious nature.

525
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 3: I feel like most people would want to at least

526
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 3: postpone the wedding to attend counseling, even if they forgave

527
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 3: their spouse for cheating. I feel bad for her situation

528
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 3: because she's an elderly woman, but as far as we know,

529
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 3: she doesn't have any cognitive or mental health issues. Maybe

530
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 3: you could say that my husband manipulated her, but I

531
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 3: feel like there's no reason to be that trusting and obvious.

532
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 3: My mother in law is not a stupid woman.

533
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: I keep coming back.

534
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 3: To the idea that she just decided to side with

535
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 3: her son instead of doing the right thing. The pessimistic

536
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 3: side of me believes that my mother in law kept

537
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 3: quiet because she wanted to remain living in my house.

538
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 3: She knew that if I found out he was cheating,

539
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 3: this exact situation when happened, I would let her stay

540
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 3: for a while, but she'd have to move out after

541
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 3: the divorce was finalized. That's the only reason that makes

542
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 3: sense to me, and if I'm right, it's made me

543
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 3: question if my mother in law ever liked me. I

544
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 3: used to believe that the reason why my mother in

545
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 3: law stayed with us and not my husband's siblings was

546
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 3: because they lived hundreds of miles away, and maybe that's

547
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 3: still true, but this has made me wonder if they're

548
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 3: keeping their distance on purpose. Probably they probably don't like her.

549
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 3: They're probably like, I don't want to put up with

550
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 3: this woman, even though she's my mother, so we're just

551
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 3: gonna make sure someone else tests to take.

552
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 2: Care of her. It's if she was being like I

553
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 2: don't want to be homeless.

554
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 3: I probably should have expected this, but in all that time,

555
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 3: my husband didn't do anything to find future housing for

556
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 3: his mother. I had to be the one to figure

557
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 3: out where my mother in law was going to stay.

558
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 3: I ended up coordinating with his siblings and both of

559
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 3: them were going to take a trip down to our

560
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 3: state to help her move. My mother in law was

561
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: going to be living with my husband's sister, but only temporarily.

562
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 3: They had plans to have my mother in law permanently

563
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 3: stay with their extended family. Ever since I made that call.

564
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 3: I have received a lot of backlash from my husband,

565
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 3: some of his friends, and her extended family. Some of

566
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,199
Speaker 3: them even made posts on Facebook criticizing me for throwing

567
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 3: out an elderly woman into the streets. Now a lot

568
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 3: of people I don't know are sending me nasty messages.

569
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 3: But you guys can send a message to us if

570
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 3: you listen to full episodes with stories just like this.

571
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 3: Just go to Apple Podcasts, Spotify or your favorite podcast

572
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 3: up and search a book as story Time And that sounds.

573
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 2: A great message.

574
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 3: But there is a little bit left to this story.

575
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 3: Do any final thoughts.

576
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 2: It's crazy, the unfair to be like you're throwing an

577
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 2: old lady out on the street. It's like, well, it's

578
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 2: real easy to say when situation's not impacting you. I

579
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 2: wonder how many people who are yelling at you about

580
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 2: how you're a bad person would do exactly what you're

581
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 2: doing right now. How many old ladies are you taking

582
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 2: care of? How many old ladies children are actively cheating

583
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 2: on you?

584
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 3: But there is a little bit left to the story.

585
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 3: Someone even tried to call into my work and get

586
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 3: me fired. They're like, she's not taking care of the

587
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 3: old lady, I suspect either my husband or my mother

588
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 3: in law gave this person my work contact information since

589
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 3: I don't have any social media presence that displays where

590
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 3: I work. No one ever mentioned my husband's infidelity and

591
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 3: my mother in law's willful silence about it, so I

592
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 3: don't know if they even have the full context. Only

593
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 3: my husband's siblings seem to side with me and promise

594
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 3: to keep the story going. Comment one says, I agree

595
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 3: with you. She needs to start saving all proof of

596
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 3: their harassment and let them know that if they don't

597
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 3: back off, she'll press charges. She really needs to stop

598
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 3: letting these leeches treat her like a doormat.

599
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 2: Ope.

600
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 3: He needs a lawyer asap to start divorce proceedings.

601
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 2: While married.

602
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 3: She's on the hook for his debts, and he might

603
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 3: take some inner name without our knowing. Dude was clearly

604
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 3: using her money to spoil his side pieces. Opie served

605
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 3: that woman in eviction notice asap. Don't let them guilt trip.

606
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 3: You ever thought about how your husband only married you

607
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 3: to get a free caretaker for his mom. That's why

608
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 3: she never told you about his affairs. They don't want

609
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 3: to lose their maid ATM and nurse. You've been used

610
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 3: while he lived like a single man. Stop buying stuff

611
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 3: for mother in law and taking care of our that'll

612
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 3: speed up getting her out of your house. Also get

613
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 3: tested for STD and Opie says, yes, I have retained

614
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 3: a lawyer. I thankfully have a lawyer friend who was

615
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 3: able to recommend several divorce lawyers they knew. I would

616
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 3: say that he was more of a caretaker for her.

617
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 2: Than I was.

618
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 3: I mainly helped out during the weekends, but I didn't

619
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 3: have work. I know that I said I cooked and cleaned.

620
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 3: Technically I cooked and cleaned for everyone in the home.

621
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 3: It wasn't like I made her specialized meals or anything.

622
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 3: I was okay with them only working part time because

623
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 3: I made enough to support both of us, and I

624
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 3: respected that he wanted to take care of his mother.

625
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 3: I probably would have been okay with that arrangement for

626
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 3: the rest of our lives. If it had an been

627
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 3: for you know, the cheating. I would have to get

628
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 3: a professional to analyze our bank records. But as far

629
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 3: as I've seen, my husband was not using my share

630
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 3: of the income on these women, at least not enough

631
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 3: for me to notice. We have a joint account, and

632
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 3: he was careful enough to only use amounts of money

633
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 3: that reflected his salary. For instance, if he took home

634
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 3: three grand, he made sure to never spend more than

635
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 3: three grand until his next paycheck.

636
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 2: That's being careful. Not blowing your entire paycheck on other

637
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: women is being careful. Maybe I'm just not financially literate

638
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: enough to understand that.

639
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 3: I'm not quite understanding your goal there, buddy. I also

640
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 3: pay the majority of the bills, and he was responsible

641
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 3: for the phone bill and other small expenses. I didn't

642
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 3: really care what he spent his money on, as long

643
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 3: as he paid off his share of the expenses first.

644
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 3: I wasn't totally oblivious, though. I always monitored art statements,

645
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 3: not because I was looking out for infidelity, just because

646
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 3: I wanted to make sure we stayed within budget. I

647
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 3: know that he met some of these women in hotels,

648
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 3: but I assume he used cash because no hotels ever

649
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 3: showed up in the statements. I wasn't suspicious that he

650
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 3: withdrew cash to begin with. I've always known that my

651
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 3: husband preferred to pay with cash in general. I did

652
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 3: notice some statements for fast food and bars, but I

653
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 3: believed him when he said those were for lunch breaks

654
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: and when he went out with friends after work. Knowing

655
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 3: the truth now and makes me laugh to imagine that

656
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 3: he was treating his side pieces to a romantic dinner

657
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 3: at McDonald's and these other fast food places. Just so

658
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 3: much romance emanating from this cheater.

659
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: The love is in this mcdouble, and we're gonna split it.

660
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 2: That's why they call it a mcdoubles because it's a

661
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 2: double Porsche.

662
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 3: I have also been tested for STDs and it's a

663
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 3: miracle that I didn't catch anything. I have thought about

664
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 3: getting tested a second time, just to make sure. And

665
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 3: that is the end of that story. Moral of the

666
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 3: story is kick your mother in law out.

667
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 2: Moral of the story. Once your husband's cheating on you,

668
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: you're not responsible for taking care of his mom.

669
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 3: Those are just the rules.

670
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: Man.

671
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: I don't think the mom was doing anything nefarious, but

672
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 2: I think that there's also a code. Once you get

673
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: to that age you really have learned through experience that

674
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 2: you just mind you business and then bring it up again.

675
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 2: If you do think that they've worked through it and

676
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: are moving on, you're just dredging up the thing that

677
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: shouldn't be dredged, but also there was a lack of

678
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: follow through on making sure that any sort of anything

679
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 2: was said.

680
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 3: I think that if you're going to confront your son

681
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 3: about it, then you gotta follow through on the confrontation.

682
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 3: But that is the end of that story.

683
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: Hey's Sam. We're gonna get back to the stories. But

684
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 2: here's three minutes of bads from our sponsors. My girlfriend

685
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: said that if she wasn't with me, she'd date her

686
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 2: hot co worker. I broke up with her.

687
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 4: Well, Dakota, I have a cigret for you. Oh do

688
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 4: tell looking pretty hot.

689
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 2: My girlfriend and I had been official for about three

690
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: months before this happened. Things were fine in the beginning,

691
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 2: but she started acting weird a few weeks ago. By

692
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Speaker 2: the way, this comes from a user throw my Way,

693
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Speaker 2: And if you want to submit your own stories, go

694
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Speaker 2: to the r slash Okay storytime suburd it submit them there.

695
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: So she works in retail and has plenty of male colleagues,

696
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 2: most of whom she never talked about or even mentioned

697
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: by name. They were always this guy or that guy. So,

698
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: out of nowhere, she starts bringing up this one guy

699
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 2: by name in our conversations. Let's call him.

700
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 4: Allan, but don't worry about Alan.

701
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: Alan's the guy she tells you not to worry about.

702
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: Alan's name seems to be popping up every time she

703
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 2: brings up work. Whether it's a conversation they had or

704
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: something that happened at the job irrelevant to him, his

705
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: input and name always seemed to come up. I didn't

706
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: think anything of it at first, but I grew suspicious

707
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: after realizing just how often this name has come up

708
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: in any of our conversations. My girlfriend also recently started

709
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,719
Speaker 2: making jokes about leaving me or finding someone else whenever

710
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: we were joking around.

711
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 4: Okay, I've been there, get out.

712
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 2: Red alert, my guy, Red alert again. I didn't take

713
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: it seriously at first, but she kept mentioning breaking up

714
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 2: in this harmless joking way too much to make me

715
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: think there wasn't something on her mind.

716
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,239
Speaker 4: Whenever my ex moved a state away to start her

717
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 4: new career as a teacher, uh huh, she was talking

718
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 4: about how she won't date other people at her school,

719
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 4: and I was like, wait a minute, are you don't

720
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 4: mean right now?

721
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: It was yeah, babe, babe, that yeah, that's crazy, because

722
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 2: we're dating right now.

723
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 4: One times she kissed me and like, I kind of

724
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 4: pulled away and she said, no, no, this is how

725
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 4: you kiss remember that. And it felt like she meant

726
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 4: to say, like, remember that for when you kiss other people.

727
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 2: That's how I felt. I think that's exactly what she

728
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: was saying.

729
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 4: I got hey.

730
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 2: Then she tells me that Alan, who has a girlfriend,

731
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 2: approached her at work and told her that she should

732
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: go on a date with him and lie about her whereabouts.

733
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 4: To me, oh so funny. At least she told you

734
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 4: right now.

735
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 2: I maintained a cool head when I heard about this

736
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: and jokingly asked her, Oh, so you got plans this weekend?

737
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 2: We both laughed and I tried to not get overly

738
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: jealous about it. But after this, his name only came

739
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: up more, and her jokes about breaking up became more frequent,

740
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 2: so I got suspicious. I looked through her phone and

741
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 2: found a conversation between her and her friend about Allan,

742
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 2: and it basically went like this, a you're gonna be girlfriend.

743
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 2: Oh my god, there's this guy at work who keeps

744
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: on asking me to go out with him, and I

745
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: just just keep telling him no, but he's just like

746
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: soup persistent, and oh my god, you should see him,

747
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: He's like so attractive. Friend, friend, Oh girl, what are

748
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: you gonna do? Girl? Friend? Obviously I'm not gonna do

749
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: anything because I'm with someone. But honestly, the only thing

750
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 2: is stopping me is the fact that I'm with Opie.

751
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: He was one of the guys I originally liked when

752
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 2: I started working here. Am I crazy? When you stop

753
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: by the store, you have to see him? Oh?

754
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 4: Stop, You're not crazy at all. Oh, I can't wait.

755
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 4: I can't wait. There's a knife in my heart.

756
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: This story is giving me trust issues. Remember, never dated

757
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: girl with hot coworkers exactly. I confronted her about the conversation,

758
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: and she got super squirrely when I said, quote, so

759
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: you like that guy Allan from your work? Is he

760
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 2: the guy you have in mind when you joke about

761
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: leaving me? That was? Hey, that's a good way to

762
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 2: put her on blast, that's for sure. She basically tried

763
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: to rationalize everything she said, but just the way she

764
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 2: reacted showed me she clearly felt more for this dude

765
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: than she led on. She got this big time stupid

766
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 2: grin when I mentioned his name, and could barely keep

767
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 2: her story straight about the conversation she had with her friend.

768
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 2: She kept saying, I don't like him, but yes, I

769
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 2: think he's attractive, which really pissed me off. I got

770
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: especially annoyed at the fact that this guy had a

771
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: girlfriend and she was basically saying that if I wasn't

772
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 2: in her life, she would have gladly been his side

773
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: woman or whatever.

774
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 4: Like when he says, you would be my side woman

775
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 4: or whatever, my side woman, not even my main chick,

776
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 4: my side lady.

777
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 2: It's very humiliating to think that she sort of fell

778
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,439
Speaker 2: for that type of guy. Obviously she doesn't love him,

779
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 2: but the fact that she said she would date him

780
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: if I wasn't in the picture makes it seem like

781
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 2: this guy is just as good of an option as

782
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: I am.

783
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 4: Just nice guy's finish last.

784
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 2: Oh, this guy Allan all uses hot and a coworker,

785
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 2: such a bad boy like me. I mean, not trying

786
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: to slam on op there, but like, leave, yeah, leave,

787
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: come on. I feel like a lot of people put

788
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 2: these stories out there because they're like, I don't leave,

789
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 2: right brother, you're leaving, pack your bags.

790
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 4: What's the hard thing to do?

791
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 2: Stay? I would think, really to stay in this.

792
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 4: I think the hard thing for Opie is to leave,

793
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 4: and usually the hard thing to do is the right

794
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 4: thing to do.

795
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 2: It just becomes a gut check.

796
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 3: Man.

797
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: It's like, once your gut tells you that, like she

798
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 2: wants to hook up with this guy at her work,

799
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 2: and like leave you Like it's your gut's telling you

800
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 2: what to do. So this guy Allan's trying to cheat

801
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 2: on his girlfriend with her, and she's bragging about it

802
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 2: to her friends. What the actual f This works in

803
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: retail and I make more in two hours of work

804
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: than he makes in twenty hours.

805
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 4: Mmmmm, and my thing's bigger than his. Yeah, what is this?

806
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 4: I don't get it.

807
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 2: I know she didn't cheat on me, but this seems

808
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 2: like the precursor to it. I'm also worried because if

809
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: this guy had her basically ready to jump on him,

810
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 2: and he's pretty much a bus then what happens when

811
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 2: somebody competent and good looking comes around? So pause for

812
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: one second. You are, in effect calling your girlfriend a bum.

813
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: She has the same job as him.

814
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, and your insel showing dog.

815
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: So maybe your girlfriend's looking for someone who, maybe I

816
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 2: don't know, shows her a shred of human respect in

817
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 2: the context of what she does for work. Because working retail. Yeah,

818
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 2: it's not glamorous, but slam duncan on Alan for not

819
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: making as much money as you. You're doing the same

820
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 2: thing to your girl, just putting that out there, so

821
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 2: I feel like I can't trust her at all anymore.

822
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 2: If that's all it takes for her to be willing

823
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: to go after someone, then how the heck can I

824
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 2: trust her? That dude was a bum sweet Hejesus. I

825
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 2: don't know what to do. I can't tell if I'm

826
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 2: overreacting or not. Am I out of line? And there's

827
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,919
Speaker 2: an edit shout out to the people in retail. Nice

828
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 2: save him being in retail isn't a fault of his

829
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 2: I exaggerated when I said I make in two hours

830
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: what he makes in twenty. It's more like a three

831
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 2: to one ratio.

832
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 4: So I think even more than he does.

833
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: I don't know the guy or his potential career paths,

834
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 2: but I brought up the retail aspect to show that

835
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: I'm more established in my career than he is. Mostly

836
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 2: he's a gummy. He's trying to cheat on his girlfriend

837
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: with my girlfriend, not because he works in retail. And

838
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 2: there's an update.

839
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 4: Thanks for the clarification, Obi, I think less of you now.

840
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: I'm sure everyone in the comments immediately bashed him for

841
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 2: exactly when I was saying. So let's get into the update.

842
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 2: What's the prognosis. Are they staying together? They breaking up?

843
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 2: Do they're breaking up? They gotta break up at this point, No,

844
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 2: you don't have the trust. That was low key, pretty

845
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 2: kind of slimy.

846
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 4: And you both don't deserve each other.

847
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 2: Well, I had to talk with my girlfriend and it

848
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: got pretty aggravating. She basically said that he's nothing serious

849
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: and it was just a crush, like so many of

850
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 2: you said. She also said that she didn't want to

851
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: be his side woman, but would date him if he

852
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: didn't have a girlfriend and if she wasn't with me,

853
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: And that wasn't too nice to hear. I asked her,

854
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,959
Speaker 2: why the heck would you want to date this guy,

855
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 2: and she responded, because he's a good guy. My head

856
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: practically exploded. It turns out, oh he's a good guy.

857
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 2: Oh he's a good guy, and I'm not a good guy.

858
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 2: Oh I do is yell at you, I'm not a

859
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 2: good guy. This sounds it feels like this is like

860
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 2: a hypothetical question that's gotten out of line. She's literally like,

861
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 2: if I wasn't dating you and he wasn't dating her,

862
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: I would date him. But guess what you're both dating.

863
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: This is like, would you love me if I was

864
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 2: a worm?

865
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 4: Is exactly what this is.

866
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: But you're not a worm, so it doesn't really matter anyway.

867
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 2: I started yelling, he's a good guy. He's trying to

868
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: use you as his side lady, and you have the

869
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 2: effing au dassy to claim he's a good guy. She

870
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: got super defensive and started fumbling her words, and I

871
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 2: exiled her from the house the next day. Today, we

872
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 2: spent all day trying to talk about it. She honestly

873
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 2: had been okay up until this point, but nothing special

874
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: or noteworthy. Her disrespectful comments and then this all compounded,

875
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 2: but I still wanted to make sure I wasn't making

876
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: a mistake. Yeah, brother, I think you need to not

877
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 2: be in a relationship at all and look in yourself,

878
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 2: grow up a little bit. Yeah, Love people for who

879
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: they are, not where they're at. She was really hard

880
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 2: to talk to you today. When I asked her if

881
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 2: they had ever done anything together, she said not at all,

882
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 2: which I truly believe. But when I asked her, why

883
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 2: do you think he's a good guy? She avoided the

884
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 2: question five times before I got the real answer out

885
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 2: of her conversation was as follows me. The thing I

886
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 2: most bothered by is that you would not only date

887
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: this guy but also claim he's a good guy to

888
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 2: my face, even though he's clearly a piece of Why

889
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: the heck would you do that? What could possibly be

890
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: so redeeming about this guy that you had the nerve

891
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: to say he's a good guy? Her?

892
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 4: Well, he's really books more and intelligent.

893
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 2: Me, So that's enough to overlook the fact that he's

894
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 2: obviously a cheater. You're an effing idiot.

895
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 4: Hang up, that was so productive and such a great

896
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 4: conversation you have with your girlfriend.

897
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 2: Hey, buddy, I'm starting to think you're not a very

898
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 2: good guy.

899
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 4: You know. I imagine this actually didn't happen, and he's

900
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 4: rewriting it to make him look like he was here.

901
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. This is like when you have like the argument

902
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: in the shower by yourself, like an hour later, and

903
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, dang it, oh I should have said that.

904
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: Something about her saying that just drove me over the edge.

905
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: So effing disturbing that she would defend this guy. You're

906
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 2: getting disturbing myself, so I read all the books in

907
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 2: the world, and then everyone clapped. It made me realize

908
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 2: she clearly felt more for him than just physical attraction.

909
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 2: I dumped her to to never call me again, and

910
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 2: now she's insulting me, calling me insecure right now, Like

911
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: I give a crap. I'm glad I don't have to

912
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 2: deal with her dumb butt anymore. I'm glad she doesn't

913
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,240
Speaker 2: have to deal with a guy who clearly, right beneath

914
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 2: the surface, was just seething with hatred at the slightest

915
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: imbalance of the homeostasis of the relationship. You were ready

916
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: to just go off, and you clearly don't respect your

917
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 2: ex girlfriend in any way, regardless of how she feels

918
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 2: about Alan.

919
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 4: I'm just glad this is over. You could have skipped

920
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 4: a few steps, but it's over now.

921
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 2: You got a superiority complex, my guy TLDR. My girlfriend's

922
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 2: an idiot. Oof at it. To give some more clarity,

923
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 2: I've been seeing her for about six months total, three

924
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 2: months of dating and three months of a relationship. Prior

925
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: to her, I had just come out of a relationship

926
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 2: where I was cheated on in the first few months

927
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 2: there we go and basically got the excuse I wasn't

928
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 2: sure if I really loved you or not. I actually

929
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 2: made the mistake of taking her back and staying with

930
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: the cheater for one more year. That relationship was terrible

931
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: in so many ways that it has affected my ability

932
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: to trust women. I actually thought I had found someone

933
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,959
Speaker 2: trustworthy in this new girl, but clearly she got bored

934
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: of me or perhaps was just like my other ex

935
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: and that she wasn't too sure yet. Well, she'd only

936
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 2: been dating you for three months. That is not your

937
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: acting like you were getting gonna get married. Yeah. I

938
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: definitely have trust issues and she knew that but couldn't

939
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: help herself. So I removed myself from this situation.

940
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 4: I think that was best for everyone.

941
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 2: That felt like moving the goalpost there a little bit,

942
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 2: because earlier in the story he's talking about the banter

943
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: of like, aha, I'm gonna leave you or we're gonna

944
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: break up, and it's like that was back. That was

945
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: a back and forth that wasn't one sided. It was

946
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 2: only once he discovered there actually was a guy who

947
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: she thought was cool and a good guy that he

948
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 2: became uncomfortable by it, it seems anyway, we have a

949
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: second update here, let's see what happens. Just to note,

950
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 2: we always had an open phone policy. This wasn't about

951
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: not trusting each other at all. We just both agreed

952
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: neither of us had anything to hide, so we didn't

953
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 2: really care if we wanted to take a look. This

954
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 2: was the first time I went through her phone because

955
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 2: I had a bad feeling and was somewhat unfortunately vindicated.

956
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 2: I got really pissed after reading the texts and ended

957
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: up breaking it off with her after she tried defending

958
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: herself and claimed he was actually a good guy, but

959
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 2: he had a girlfriend and he was willing to cheat

960
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: on her with my girlfriend, which honestly that sounds like

961
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,479
Speaker 2: maybe hyperbole. I'm not sure, but it could be true.

962
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: So I had a few days off to really think

963
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 2: about what happened that night when I basically just told

964
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 2: her to get out of my life. A decent amount

965
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: of the comments were pointing out that my aggressive way

966
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: of bringing up the issue probably played a big part

967
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 2: into how she reacted. They were totally right. After a

968
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 2: few days of thinking about it, I realized I let

969
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: my anger get the best of me and made it

970
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: impossible for her to be heard at all, So last

971
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: night I agreed to meet with her to hear what

972
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 2: she had to say about it. All. I could have

973
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 2: just ignored her completely, but I was actually really interested

974
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 2: in how she could possibly think she could explain this away.

975
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 2: So I met with her and she began apologizing, saying

976
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 2: things like I didn't deserve that at all, it was

977
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 2: immature and disrespectful to the relationship. She again explained how

978
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 2: nothing had ever happened between them, not even a hug,

979
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 2: and that she always rejected his advances, never leading him

980
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 2: on once. He really just wouldn't leave her alone about it.

981
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 2: I told her that it didn't seemed like she put

982
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 2: her foot down hard enough with him if he kept

983
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: coming back, and it seemed to me she let it happen.

984
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 2: She said she did tell him to stop every single time,

985
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 2: but that he really just wouldn't leave her alone. I

986
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 2: asked her about the bragging, showing him off, and the

987
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: weird sort of flattery, and she told me this here's

988
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 2: where it gets interesting to me. She started explaining to

989
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: me and that she had a little crush on him

990
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: when she first started the job, before we even started dating,

991
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 2: but they never pursued each other. She thought he was

992
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 2: cute but didn't act on it, and soon after starting

993
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: the job she met me. We got serious, and in

994
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: her own words, she forgot that I had a crush

995
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: on him, even though she still found him attractive. But

996
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: something happened after we had been official for two months

997
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: and he started aggressively pursuing her. At first, she didn't

998
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 2: even think of it because he was a flirty guy

999
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 2: and just kept shooting him down. She knew at that

1000
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 2: time that he only wanted to have the spicy sleep

1001
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 2: with her, so she didn't take it seriously. But he

1002
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 2: started asking her out to dinner and talking about romantic dates,

1003
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: and something in her just clicked back on. The feelings

1004
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: from the crush he had on Alan before came flooding back,

1005
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: and suddenly she was actually having an internal struggle with

1006
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 2: him her feelings. On one hand, she knew he was

1007
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 2: a sky guy, but she was just so physically attracted

1008
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: to him that she started to like him a little.

1009
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 2: She knew he only wanted her for spicy sleep, but

1010
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 2: when she started talking about dinners and stuff, she started

1011
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,439
Speaker 2: thinking that he actually liked her as a person. When

1012
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 2: she started thinking that way. She just couldn't help how

1013
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,959
Speaker 2: attracted she was to him, and the crush came back.

1014
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 2: All right, bro, So at this point we're breaking up, yeah,

1015
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: or I'm like, fine, if you're that attracted to this guy,

1016
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 2: go go to him, go date him. And you know what,

1017
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 2: you don't have to be that mad about it, because

1018
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 2: you guys were dating for three months. It's not that serious.

1019
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: This is what dating is for. And if you want

1020
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 2: to be honest about it, you go, you know what,

1021
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 2: I do kind of feel like I want to pursue

1022
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: something with this guy, and you go, yikes, well that's

1023
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 2: not what I want to hear. But I guess we

1024
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 2: should break up and move on with our lives. You

1025
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: don't have to make it a Mount Vesuvius eruption, you know. Anyway,

1026
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 2: she was flattered that the person she secretly had eyes

1027
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 2: for in the beginning was now crushing on her, and

1028
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 2: she just couldn't help the way it made her feel,

1029
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 2: even though she was now with me. At the same time,

1030
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 2: it also made her super uncomfortable because she liked me

1031
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: way more than she ever liked him. She told me

1032
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 2: that he didn't have anything that I didn't already have.

1033
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: She's just as physically attracted to me as she is

1034
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 2: to him, which is possibly true, as I've never seen

1035
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,439
Speaker 2: this guy, and even though she said he was book

1036
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 2: smart and whatever, that I was way better than him

1037
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: in every way, it sounds like compensating me.

1038
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 4: Dude.

1039
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 2: She didn't even conceive of him as a threat to

1040
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 2: the relationship because she knew that she would never do

1041
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 2: anything with him or leave me for him. But unfortunately,

1042
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 2: she said some dumb stuff to her friend in a

1043
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 2: moment of excitement when she started feeling flattered by her

1044
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 2: former crush crushing on her. I was really appreciative of

1045
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 2: her honesty, and even though it was tough to hear,

1046
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 2: I didn't even want to snap back. It was sort

1047
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 2: of amazing to hear. So I asked her about the

1048
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,919
Speaker 2: whole defending him. When I asked her how he could

1049
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 2: possibly be a good guy, she really didn't want to

1050
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 2: answer the question, so I kind of answered it for her,

1051
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 2: because it doesn't doesn't feel like there is an answer

1052
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: to that question. Feels like the answer to that question is, Oh,

1053
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 2: he's not but he's really hot, you know.

1054
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 4: I just want to see what's under his clothing layer

1055
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 4: down below.

1056
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 2: In the words of Stelle. Don't like his baggy jeans,

1057
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 2: but I might like what's underneath them.

1058
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 4: Love a shout out.

1059
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: There was a comment on this previous thread that really

1060
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 2: stuck with me regarding this exact question. I forgot who

1061
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: posted it, and it was actually a sort of snide remark,

1062
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 2: but surprisingly wise. Basically, it said, she had to tell

1063
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: you he was a good guy because she knew if

1064
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 2: she told you the real reason that she was attracted

1065
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 2: to him he's cute and charming, that you would just

1066
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: flip out. More makes sense. She deludes herself into believing

1067
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 2: he's a good guy because she wants to be with him,

1068
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 2: because she's really attracted to him, and she wouldn't want

1069
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 2: a data scrag, so he must not be a contrary

1070
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 2: to the evidence. Self delusion at its finest. I had

1071
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 2: those quotes in mind when I told her that I

1072
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 2: understand why you're hesitant to answer, because ultimately it's a

1073
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 2: lose lose for you. You could either lie to me

1074
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 2: and say he's a good guy to make it seem

1075
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 2: like you're not shallow, but then it would seem like

1076
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 2: you're more than just physically attracted to him and actually

1077
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: like his character. Trying to avoid hurting my feelings. You

1078
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 2: made it seem like you actually liked him more than

1079
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: I previously thought, Or you could be honest and just

1080
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: say you found him cute and charming even though he

1081
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: was as you knew he was. You were so physically

1082
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 2: attracted to him that you couldn't accept he was actually

1083
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 2: a bad guy. If you had honestly said I would

1084
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: shag him but never be with him, I may have

1085
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 2: been mad at hearing that, but it would have been

1086
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 2: way better than listening to you lye on his behalf.

1087
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 2: So you don't seem shout, because it only amplified the

1088
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 2: situation and changed the dynamics. She was pretty shocked at

1089
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 2: me saying that and told me, I honestly never wanted

1090
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 2: to say why I was attracted to him because I

1091
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 2: just thought you would flip out. But yes, he's just

1092
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 2: cute and charming. I know that doesn't make him a

1093
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: good person and wash away his despicable behavior, but I

1094
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 2: just didn't want to say to you when you were

1095
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: so mad at me. It's just a physical attraction that

1096
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 2: was compounded by the crush I had on him before

1097
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 2: I met you. I don't know the guy at all really,

1098
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 2: aside from talking occasionally at work. But he's not you,

1099
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 2: and I wouldn't trade you for him. Ever. You're just

1100
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: as cute and charming as him, if not more so.

1101
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 2: But you have so many more amazing qualities and all

1102
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 2: he has is looks. It was the weirdest feeling. On

1103
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 2: one hand, her honesty cleared up exactly how she felt

1104
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 2: about him, but I was still a little unsure about

1105
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 2: how much she liked him. Brother, what are we doing?

1106
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 4: Why are we entertaining you this man?

1107
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 2: What are we talking about here?

1108
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 4: Find someone else attractive? This deeply out?

1109
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 2: The only reason that she has only a physical goal

1110
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 2: attraction to this guy because she doesn't know anything else

1111
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 2: about him yet, So I don't know.

1112
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 4: Yep, she's just window shopping.

1113
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: I think now is the time to appreciate that you

1114
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 2: had an honest, open discourse about this, and you both

1115
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 2: move on with your lives, right.

1116
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that seems like the right thing to do.

1117
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 4: But I bet you were not even halfway done.

1118
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 2: Oh no, we're getting close.

1119
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 4: Oh we're about to read a conclusion here.

1120
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 2: I hope they just move on same. The amount that

1121
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: she liked him is not nearly as deep as I

1122
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: thought it was, but the thing is, it's still there.

1123
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 2: She just admitted to being able to overlook his huge

1124
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 2: red flags due to physical attraction, but also admitted that

1125
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: it was sort of silly, and brother, she's overlooking your

1126
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 2: red flags. I'm sure as well. You don't sound like

1127
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: you're red flagless, but regardless, let's continue. She also told

1128
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 2: me about how her and the friend she had the

1129
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: conversation with talked about what Alan was doing to her

1130
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: that night, and they both agreed it was gross and

1131
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: that she would never do it, but she couldn't help

1132
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 2: but feel somewhat flattered when he did those things to her.

1133
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 2: She's got to be the worst liar I have ever encountered,

1134
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 2: but I didn't get a notion of deceit. In our conversation.

1135
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 2: Oologized for yelling at her and calling her an effing idiot,

1136
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: and I explained that I understood why she was afraid

1137
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 2: to be honest with me from the get go, given

1138
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 2: the way I was acting, and that I'm not interested

1139
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 2: in losing control of my emotions like that anymore. We're

1140
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 2: not together because I still feel weird and uncomfortable about

1141
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 2: the whole thing. I told her. I appreciated her honesty,

1142
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 2: but it was still very concerning hearing just how easily

1143
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 2: she developed feelings for someone who isn't even a good person,

1144
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 2: and that I have a hard time believing it wouldn't

1145
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 2: happen again. I caught myself and told her I've heard

1146
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 2: those things before with other women during our relationship, but

1147
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 2: it never got nearly as far as she took it,

1148
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 2: and it was still a very disrespectful thing to do.

1149
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 2: I know we as humans can't help who were physically

1150
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 2: attracted to, but it's very concerning to hear it from

1151
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: your ex slash girlfriend or whatever. She doesn't want to

1152
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 2: be with him and wants to be with me, that

1153
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 2: much is very clear. Nor did she want to be

1154
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 2: his side piece, because honestly, she has more respect for

1155
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,479
Speaker 2: herself than that. But she couldn't deny that. She did

1156
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: say she would go out with him if it wasn't

1157
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: for me, even though she chalked it up to a

1158
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 2: misunderstanding of what she meant and that when her friend

1159
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 2: talked about it more with her, they agreed he was

1160
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 2: a gross guy, so she probably wouldn't either way. It's

1161
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 2: all that's just a mess. It's time to go it's

1162
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 2: time to leave.

1163
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 4: I thought we graduated from middle school.

1164
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 2: Guys, it's time move along on to the next I

1165
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 2: still don't know how I feel about it. Yes, you do,

1166
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: but I do want to see what you all think

1167
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 2: about this type of situation. You do know how you think?

1168
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 2: I would really hope you know how you think about

1169
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 2: this situation. It clearly happens in relationships, but it's scary

1170
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 2: to think that all it takes to lose control of

1171
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 2: your emotions is looks and charm. She didn't do anything

1172
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 2: with him, but I don't know. This still comes across

1173
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 2: as off putting, even if she was one hundred percent honest,

1174
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 2: which I think she pretty much was. And by the way,

1175
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: I'm being one hundred percent honest with you when I

1176
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: say you can listen to full episodes with stories like

1177
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:47,560
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1178
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,840
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1179
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:55,040
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1180
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 2: fingertips and you can listen to your heart's content.

1181
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 4: I just wish you would be like my dad in

1182
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 4: my childhood dog and take me out to the woods

1183
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 4: and put me out of my misery.

1184
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 2: Please, honestly, please just rip the band aid off. Man,

1185
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 2: you know we need to do. There's no going back

1186
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 2: because I don't feel like you're the kind of guy

1187
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 2: from the context I've gotten from the story to be

1188
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 2: able to actually move on from this. Three months from now,

1189
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: when you guys get in a fight, you're gonna bring

1190
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 2: this up.

1191
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 4: My god, she's like cute and charming, but like you

1192
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 4: have all these other qualities, but like blake, black blake,

1193
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 4: black bla and that could be true.

1194
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 2: It's like she could be honest when she's saying, like, yeah,

1195
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 2: I was attracted to this guy, and like, I do

1196
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 2: know he's kind of a strong and I've talked to

1197
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 2: my friend about it and yeah he does. But at

1198
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 2: the same time, it's like I don't want to date

1199
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 2: somebody who's attracted to scumbags. Anyway, let's finish this story.

1200
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 2: There's a mini update here. I forgot to mention this

1201
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 2: part of the story, but I asked my ex if

1202
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 2: she would tell Alan's girlfriend about his attempts at infidelity,

1203
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 2: and she said no. She said it would only cause

1204
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 2: problems at her job and she didn't want her name involved,

1205
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 2: which is fair. Look out for yourself in the context

1206
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,479
Speaker 2: of the job. It's like, you don't want to mess

1207
00:51:58,520 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 2: that up, and.

1208
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 4: If you want to be a man about it, you

1209
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 4: could do it yourself.

1210
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 2: Exactly. Yeah, if that's if that's how you really feel

1211
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 2: about that, I do it would do this one favor

1212
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 2: for me. I don't know. Maybe it would cause problems,

1213
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 2: but I read it as very sketch, like she doesn't

1214
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 2: want to piss Alan off. Maybe I'm paranoid though, I mean, look,

1215
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 2: she's already your ex brother. Stop caring what she thinks

1216
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: about Alan. It's over.

1217
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 4: It's time to hit the gym and watch more Andrew

1218
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 4: Tait and go back to the rock you crawled under.

1219
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 2: Maybe we're being a little harsh on him, are we?

1220
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 2: But there were some I don't know, like I yelled

1221
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 2: at her and called her and I think I think

1222
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 2: the way you got checked by the comments in your

1223
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 2: first post, by being like I mean ten times more

1224
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 2: than he does. And by the way, brother, that's where

1225
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: your girlfriend worked. So you clearly respect your girlfriend at

1226
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 2: the same amount as you respect Alan in that context

1227
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 2: until you got checked and then backtracked. So who's to say,

1228
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 2: you know? I don't know. I feel like you're trying

1229
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 2: to temperature check your own thoughts and feelings with the

1230
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 2: internet instead of just being honest about how you're thinking.

1231
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:57,919
Speaker 2: You're thinking that you don't want to date this woman.

1232
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 2: Don't date her.

1233
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 4: It's over, and we know how you think and how

1234
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 4: you move and how you go about things.

1235
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 2: It's a little high Horsey feels like he's a little

1236
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 2: bit up on a high horse, although I do support, like,

1237
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 2: if this guy really is trying to cheat on his girlfriend,

1238
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: girlfriend deserves to know. But do that yourself. Yeah, yeah,

1239
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 2: come on, if you feel that, if that's how you're feeling,

1240
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: you can do that.

1241
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 4: And your girlfriend's your ex is now single, so we

1242
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 4: know what she's going to be doing with Alan. She's

1243
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 4: not gonna have enough time to tell Alan's girlfriend what

1244
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 4: Alan's doing.

1245
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, take the matter into your own hands.

1246
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 4: I see in that story.

1247
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 2: Hey, it's Sam. We'll get back to the stories. But

1248
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 2: here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors.

1249
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 4: My sister confessed her affair without any remorse, so I

1250
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 4: exposed her.

1251
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 2: Ooh shoo. I don't know who to be more upset

1252
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 2: at the cheater or the person who like broke someone's trust.

1253
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 4: I'm not even sure what to do, if I should

1254
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 4: even do anything or can At this point, my sister

1255
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 4: and husband have been married for ten years. My sister

1256
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 4: has worked in realty for about two years now. She

1257
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 4: started in a good company and she genuinely loves what

1258
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 4: she does for people. By the way, this call from

1259
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 4: deleted and if you want to spit your own stories,

1260
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 4: go to our slash okay stories, I'm subred. So she

1261
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 4: worked in a team and each team had partners. She

1262
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 4: was partners with some guy, let's call him Dan. Dan

1263
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 4: is young about twenty four to twenty five, and my

1264
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 4: sister is twenty nine.

1265
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 2: I mean, that's not abnormal, these two people in their twenties. Yeah,

1266
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 2: it's not like it's but.

1267
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 4: The combination of a young guy with slightly older, mature,

1268
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 4: more mature woman.

1269
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,760
Speaker 2: That's very normal. That's very typical.

1270
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 4: He's very attractive, and they've obviously had to spend a

1271
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 4: lot of time together because their work requires a lot

1272
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 4: of interaction with each other and other people. He's extremely

1273
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 4: flirty and they ended up getting touchy.

1274
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 2: Uh oh.

1275
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 4: She let herself get caught up into it, since she

1276
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 4: mentioned her marriage was going on a downhill slope for

1277
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 4: some time. Now she ended up falling for the guy,

1278
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 4: and they would send each other's songs to dedicate to

1279
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 4: the other, and she would go out late to clubs

1280
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 4: with friends and he would be there and they would kiss.

1281
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 2: And stuff kissing stuff is wild? Whoa Okay.

1282
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 4: Eventually it led to what to go to them?

1283
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 2: It led to the spicy tango, and she.

1284
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 4: Would lie to her husband and tell him she was

1285
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 4: with our sister in law, let's call her Carol, and

1286
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 4: intern Carol would have to lie to my sister's husband John.

1287
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no, no, no no.

1288
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 2: And she's just offering all this up like for free,

1289
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 2: like she just had to get this off her chest.

1290
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,280
Speaker 2: Like why is she telling all this to her brother?

1291
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 3: Now?

1292
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 2: What where's this coming from?

1293
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 4: Which made crap complicated because John is Carol's boss. Oh

1294
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 4: so their work relationship was strained as well. Anyway, in reality,

1295
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 4: she would be with Dan effing all the time, and

1296
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 4: she went as far as to have spicy sleep with

1297
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 4: him in her own apartment. Girl, it messes me up

1298
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 4: because she genuinely feels no remorse. She doesn't realize the

1299
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 4: full consequences. John suspected something with Dan, but he could

1300
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 4: never find proof. She's always with her cell phone. She's very,

1301
00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 4: very meticulous, and a good liar and manipulator. He stays clueless.

1302
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 4: Fast forward to about six months ago. She changed companies

1303
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 4: stand after her over and got a girl friend and

1304
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 4: her heart was broken.

1305
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 2: Oh well, how am I supposed to be with my

1306
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 2: boyfriend and with you?

1307
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 3: Whenever you ever coming?

1308
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 2: Easy come, easy go.

1309
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 4: I imagine experiencing a breakup while with your partner you get.

1310
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 2: You experience a breakup while you're not broken up with

1311
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 2: your actual boyfriend. I mean, look, your brother, she's probably

1312
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 2: coming to you for this for some some level of advice.

1313
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 2: I don't think we got to that part of one.

1314
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 2: Really did she really not have any remorse whatsoever.

1315
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 4: We'll say, you work for a company, right, you're working,

1316
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 4: you're remote. They don't really see what you're doing, but

1317
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 4: they're like, he's working for me. And then you're over

1318
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 4: here working for another company and get paid extra. You're like, ooh,

1319
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 4: I'm working the system. This this company will never know

1320
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 4: I'm not working for it, but I'm like getting money

1321
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 4: on the side here doing freelanced. And then your freelance

1322
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 4: gate goes away. You ain't getting that extra income. You're like, Oh,

1323
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 4: you already got this other income. That's what she feels

1324
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 4: right now. She's like, ah, whatever, I don't care about

1325
00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 4: this other company. They think I'm being busy.

1326
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1327
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 4: She's still she's an entrepreneurs It's an entrepreneurial situation exactly.

1328
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 4: That's how she's viewing this. Well, she's a heartbroken. She

1329
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 4: goes to this new company, which is all fun dandy.

1330
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 4: She loves it. Then she starts getting too friendly with

1331
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 4: her boss, Mark. Mark's an older man, around forty, married

1332
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 4: with three kids. However, they floored anyways. Of effing course,

1333
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 4: she likes him because he's manly and older as good

1334
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 4: at spicy sleep too. Apparently.

1335
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 2: Hey, so she rebounded from one affair to the next affair.

1336
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 4: Like that entrepreneurial mindset. If you have a company that's

1337
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 4: paying you money and you need freelance work to get

1338
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 4: your buzz off, you gotta you gotta find that. You

1339
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 4: gotta float that real quick. See, it's a growth mindset.

1340
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 4: It's an entrepreneurial mindset.

1341
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 2: It's all about the grind. She just got confused about

1342
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 2: what kind of grind they were talking about.

1343
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 4: She begins her new and recent affair However, she actually

1344
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 4: thinks she's in love with him. They went on a

1345
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 4: trip for work for a week, and she showed me

1346
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 4: how they danced and kissed and he got extremely romantic

1347
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 4: with her, saying they bought a romance. At a point,

1348
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 4: my stomach began to hurt. She looked so excited, giggly,

1349
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 4: and thrilled from the adrenaline of her lust and secrecy

1350
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 4: of her up actions. I honestly don't think she has

1351
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 4: much of a consciousness at this point. But that's just me.

1352
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 2: Brother. Where are you at with your counsel. You're supposed

1353
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 2: to be there to be like, hey, this is all wrong,

1354
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 2: this is misplaced. You are setting yourself up for a

1355
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 2: huge mess and pain and suffering, not just you, but

1356
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 2: a whole other family. Do you not see that.

1357
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 4: He looking not be the guy that doesn't give advice

1358
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 4: unless they say, hey, so, what do you think of that?

1359
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 2: That's me for a while, I just don't know. It

1360
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 2: feels like you need to be saying things immediately.

1361
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, absolutely. Honestly don't think she has much of

1362
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 4: a conscious at this point. But that's just me. Now,

1363
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 4: my sister and John are splitting up, not divorcing. She

1364
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 4: moved into its own house with a girl, in which

1365
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 4: she got all the furniture, and John agreed because it

1366
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 4: was the right thing to do. And John is moving

1367
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 4: into it on apartment alone. They haven't filed divorce papers.

1368
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 4: We were eating dinner alone one night and he told me,

1369
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 4: I told your sister, I wasn't going to give up

1370
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 4: even if it unlived me. I know I can't love

1371
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,919
Speaker 4: someone else, and he was going to wait for her.

1372
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 4: He has been writing her letters. He was crying in everything.

1373
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 4: What it was down bad. I need to see a

1374
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 4: picture of this woman right now.

1375
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 2: Oh Lord.

1376
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 4: So now I'm stuck on the sidelines watching this disaster unfold.

1377
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 4: I feel bad for my nieces who know that mommy

1378
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 4: doesn't love daddy anymore, and for John, who's been like

1379
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 4: a brother to me since I was seven. I think

1380
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 4: he needs to know now and that she has to

1381
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 4: tell him. But she said she never will, and I

1382
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 4: told her the truth will come out somehow. Her reply was, whatever,

1383
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 4: if it happens, it happens. She doesn't realize she's still

1384
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 4: pretty financially dependent on him, and he's an amazing guy.

1385
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 4: She doesn't realize that what she's doing is a mistake.

1386
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 4: I told her to put the guy out of his

1387
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 4: effing misery. He needs to know the truth, and I'm

1388
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 4: so tempted to tell him my boyfriend said to leave

1389
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 4: an anonymous note somehow, but that also would feel wrong.

1390
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 4: I don't know what to do or what to think of.

1391
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 4: This whole thing makes me so sick. Edit posted the

1392
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 4: wrong Subreddit. Still knew he also, She told me so.

1393
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 4: I showed me the matching tattoo she got with the

1394
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 4: guy today. She showed me two minutes ago.

1395
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 2: Oh my god, we have.

1396
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 4: An update, a freaking update. Dude, do you know what

1397
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 4: to do? What's the hard thing to do right now?

1398
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 4: To go to all of it? It's all hard, No,

1399
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 4: I mean, it's like the hard next action to do?

1400
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 4: You what do you talk to tell John?

1401
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 2: Right, it's all hard to tell John, to not tell John,

1402
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,479
Speaker 2: to tell her to tell John. It's all hard.

1403
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 4: Well, the hardest thing to do is to tell John.

1404
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 4: And you have to do that. You have to do.

1405
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 2: You have to this with the context that was provided

1406
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 2: there where it's like he's been like a brother since

1407
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 2: you were seven. It's like, all right, now, that's that's

1408
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 2: another equally like trust bound relationship. As the one that

1409
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 2: you have with your sister, But it sounds like you

1410
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 2: are awful at convincing or telling people to do things.

1411
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 2: Because what it's like working to your advice man, the

1412
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,919
Speaker 2: fact that your sister feels nothing. I don't know. It's

1413
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 2: like it's your parents' job to raise your siblings, right,

1414
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 2: But it's like you're her older brother, like you're supposed

1415
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 2: to be part of her moral compass, Like you need

1416
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 2: to be giving her more active counsel here. And if

1417
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 2: she really is fully in the camp of I don't

1418
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 2: care whatever happens, if it comes out, it comes out,

1419
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 2: then yeah, at this point, she does need to face

1420
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 2: the music, and if she's not going to do it herself,

1421
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 2: you need to be the one to do it here,

1422
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 2: especially if you actually value John's friendship and like have

1423
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 2: known him for so long for oh my god.

1424
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 4: You got enough day, all right. First of all, I

1425
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 4: want to thank all the people who actually gave sound

1426
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 4: and proper advice, and I want to point out those

1427
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 4: who claim that I did not slash care so I

1428
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 4: should give a crap about John, that I truly don't

1429
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 4: consider him my brother and I'm a horrible person, and

1430
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 4: that you don't know my whole life story. You should

1431
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 4: have judged others. That being said, The next time, my

1432
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 4: sister gossiped to me about her latest day with Mark. Yeah,

1433
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 4: they're still going together and going strong, as she puts it,

1434
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 4: and he left his wife too. I told her I

1435
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 4: didn't agree with what she did at all. I told

1436
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 4: her she was a compulsive liar and she should seriously

1437
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 4: seek professional help with her narcissism lack of consciousness, and

1438
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 4: you go toaskical tendencies. Surprise, she is only full of

1439
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 4: herself in this situation, but with everything else in life.

1440
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 4: I also mentioned how I know she must know it's wrong,

1441
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 4: and how she's capable of lying for aso effing long,

1442
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 4: and she should just divorce John and put him out

1443
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 4: of his effing miniseriy. She told me she knows, and

1444
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:11,919
Speaker 4: that she feels bad, and that she's going to file

1445
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 4: for divorce, et cetera. I ask her, are you ever

1446
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:15,479
Speaker 4: going to tell John? She said to me, I feel

1447
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 4: bad about the whole thing, but there's no reason to

1448
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 4: tell him now because it's pointless. Oh my blood boiled,

1449
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 4: But all I said was okay. At that point I

1450
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 4: realized she was hopeless to talk to mind you. She's

1451
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 4: eleven years younger than me, and although her maturity is

1452
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 4: practically non existent as the past couple of years, she

1453
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 4: acts like a love struck thirteen year old. Constantly she

1454
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 4: thinks of me below her. My family has always ingrained

1455
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 4: the thought that you are older, you can do whatever

1456
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 4: you want. If someone calls you younger, it isn't okay,

1457
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 4: and they have no right to do so simply because

1458
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 4: you are younger than you. Okay, so Opi is nineteen,

1459
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 4: he's not thirty. There's gotta be something going on here yet. Yeah,

1460
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 4: so Opie is nineteen, she's twenty nine older.

1461
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 2: Well, that makes more sense as to why he was

1462
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 2: not really putting the screws into the counseling there. It's like,

1463
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 2: he's so you're the younger brother. That makes more sense.

1464
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 4: Now she's not gonna listen to you. I got fed

1465
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 4: up with everything. So the next time I saw John,

1466
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 4: I told him we were sitting down relaxing. No one

1467
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 4: else was around us. He started talking about my sister again,

1468
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 4: but I stopped him. He went like this, listen, I'm

1469
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 4: gonna be honest with you, and I understand if you

1470
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 4: never want to speak to any of us again. But

1471
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 4: my sister has been cheating or was has been lying

1472
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 4: to you for the past couple of years. First with Dan,

1473
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 4: and you know Dan, and I know you got a

1474
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 4: good feeling. It was right now with Mark, whom you

1475
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 4: may also know, and she claims she's really in love

1476
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 4: with him. I'm sick of tired of keeping quiet because

1477
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 4: it isn't fair, and I feel like you won't let

1478
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 4: go until you know for sure. He's stayed quiet and

1479
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,959
Speaker 4: looked down at the table. He said, I always knew

1480
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 4: she was being unfaithful. I had the feeling, but I

1481
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 4: never wanted to admit it because of your sister. Or

1482
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 4: was the love of my life. I had two beautiful

1483
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 4: girls with her, and I kept thinking that things would

1484
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 4: get better. I guess I was wrong. This post is

1485
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 4: already too long. So I basically apologized to him numerous times,

1486
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,439
Speaker 4: and he said he didn't blame me because he knows

1487
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 4: how unreasonable my family is, and I was only saying,

1488
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 4: and I'm still only starting college now. You also thank

1489
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 4: me for being honest with him and that he knew

1490
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 4: you'd down. There was no repairing things with my sister.

1491
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 4: I asked him if he would confront her, knowing very

1492
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 4: well I would get in trouble for spilling the beans.

1493
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 4: But at this point, I don't IFNE care why I

1494
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 4: continue to be part of a sick lie. And he

1495
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 4: said no, only because it's not like she's going to

1496
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 4: change her behavior and it's going to start drama. And guys,

1497
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 4: if you love drama just like this, go to your

1498
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 4: favorite podcast platform. Search up Okay story Time for more

1499
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 4: crazy stories just like this. We have tons of them. Dakota,

1500
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 4: what are your thoughts about him not confronting his ex.

1501
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 2: That's fine at this point, honestly, just move on. Really,

1502
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 2: you've gotten the cold water. You already knew it too.

1503
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 2: He's like, I knew she's been unfaithful. I just thought

1504
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,439
Speaker 2: maybe it'd get better. It's like, brother, that's a sad,

1505
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 2: sad story. I think, Uh, you know your sister's a

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Speaker 2: home record, bro. And now that we know you're the

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Speaker 2: younger brother not the older brother, I take back everything

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Speaker 2: I've said, yeah about what you should have been doing

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Speaker 2: or could have been doing, especially given the dynamic you

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Speaker 2: describe be in your family. It doesn't sound like there's

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Speaker 2: any way you could have flipped her to change her behavior. Anyway.

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Speaker 2: So I'm just glad you have not been corrupted by

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Speaker 2: her rotten moral compass. So that's nice.

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Speaker 4: That is nice. He said he found a nice apartment

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Speaker 4: for himself and that once the divorce is final he

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Speaker 4: can simply continue to be a good dad and get

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Speaker 4: over everything that's happened. I've seen him a few times

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Speaker 4: since then. We're still close. I'm looking forward to seeing

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Speaker 4: him find a girl who actually cares about him, and

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Speaker 4: I regret not growing a pair sooner. But now it's over.

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Speaker 4: My sister continues on with Mark, but she's on her

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Speaker 4: own now. Thanks for hearing me out, guys, and you

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Speaker 4: have learned a life lesson my friend. And that is

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Speaker 4: the end of this episode.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so if you love us, make sure you subscribe.

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Speaker 4: He freaking love you and

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Speaker 2: See you tomorrow.