1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Guess what decision we're about to make. Horrible decision. 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Horrid Bled. 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: This is y'all. 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 2: I'm your girl, Mandy b aka Peta Sign aka PEG 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: and Marco aka I'm out here fucking these niggas aka 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: a dad bit. You've been out here these niggas. So 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: I was not fucking these niggas for like a year. 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: I was healing. 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: Okay, babe, I didn't like that my name is weezy 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: and Mandy's line. 11 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: Mandy was getting dick once in a blue and if 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 2: she didn't like it, it didn't care. It was fingers. 13 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: I got finger banged, but I wasn't getting dick while 14 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 2: I was really being celibate. Girl. 15 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: You weren't celibate, you was said, I was said. Anyway, 16 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if this was gonna be a PG episode, 17 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: but I really wanted us to do an episode talking 18 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: about sexuality. 19 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: And this isn't gonna be PEG. We're gonna find a 20 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 2: way for this. I almost said sexuality and kids, it's 21 00:00:59,320 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: not that. 22 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: So I had experience and I was telling Mandy about 23 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: and maybe we talked about horrible where I had to 24 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: talk to my friend's kid about their period and about sex, 25 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't know how to do 26 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: this like this, so we brought it an expert. We 27 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: have Tara Hi who wrote into horrible in our posts. 28 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: You have a youth sexpert program, right. 29 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, So we are a nonprofit organization. We are a 30 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 3: sex ed training program. So essentially students fourteen through eighteen 31 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 3: can come for weekly sessions for a semester and it's 32 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 3: comprehensive sex education and communications training so that they can 33 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 3: learn how to become their own communities sexpert. 34 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: But this is this is outside of their school, like 35 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: they have to come to a separate location for it. 36 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 4: So this is all digital. So we work with kids 37 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,559 Speaker 4: through who are all over the US. 38 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 3: So in our last cohort, we had students from Arizona, Florida, 39 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 3: New York, Massachusetts. 40 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 4: Off the top of my head, how. 41 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: Do you kids find it? 42 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 4: Mostly through social media? 43 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 3: That's where we've seen the most succisay during our off season, 44 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 3: when we're not in program, we do everything that we 45 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 3: can to like advertise. So just earlier yesterday we were 46 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 3: at youth Summit and myc got to talk to a 47 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: bunch of students there, so we try to find places 48 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 3: where students are at and tell them about the program. 49 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: To parents send their kids. 50 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 3: So we basically we knew that we had to either 51 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 3: work hand in hand with schools or hand in hand 52 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 3: with parents, and we decided to kind of go the 53 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: individual famili's route, which in hindsight was a great decision 54 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 3: because we've run into so much bullshit trying to work 55 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 3: with schools even just to get. 56 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 4: The word out about programming. 57 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: But yeah, so we need parents sign off, and so 58 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: our on our staff we have a parent liaison who 59 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 3: works with students to get that parent permission because we 60 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: understand that can be like a really big barrier. 61 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: Does I'm thinking, I feel like at a certain age, 62 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: if you can't learn it from your parents and then 63 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: you need them to sign off and they don't, your fucked. 64 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: It's crazy because that's actually I was literally scrolling somebody 65 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: called me, so I missed it. I was scrolling through 66 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: our comments on our solo episode actually, and it's crazy. 67 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: I don't know what the conversation was, but someone literally wrote, oh, 68 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: let me find it. I tried to screenshot it earlier. 69 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: Someone literally wrote. 70 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: Lol Mandy talking about black families having to talk about 71 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: sex that just doesn't happen, and literally I'm just like, well, 72 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: it should and we shouldn't depend on sex ed in 73 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: schools because we know that that's not happening either, which 74 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: is why we have a whole generation, multiple generations, people 75 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: figuring out sex into their twenties, thirties, forties. I mean, 76 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: when my mom came to our first live show, like, 77 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: there was a little touching moment where she was like, 78 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: I'm a little jealous that you're being able to explore 79 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: yourself in your twenties and thirties, like she's in her 80 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: fifties and still figuring out herself because of this. 81 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely had a similar moment even with my 82 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 3: parents where I feel like my parents were the best 83 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 3: parents ever. But even in the role that I have now, 84 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: I've done so many like interviews or had so many 85 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: moments where I've like, Luke, you had to put them 86 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: on blast and be like, y'all did not talk to 87 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: me about sex. 88 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 4: And I know that that sucks. 89 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: For them to hear, but it's kind of the truth, 90 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: and it was something that really motivated me in starting 91 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 3: this program. So to what you were saying, we we 92 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 3: know that, like having parent permission as a requirement is 93 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: like a huge issue, and like a reason. 94 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: I don't know that, don't we didn't We all sign 95 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: our parents' names like like sority. 96 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: Like baby, I know my mom is thinking much better 97 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: than mine and my. 98 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: Dad stead He was like, why does twenty dollars in 99 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 2: the checks keep coming up? 100 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 4: Maybe? 101 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: All I know is my mama signed. She ain't no 102 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: unless I needed some money. 103 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, when it comes to Okay, So when they're getting there, right, 104 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 2: these kids are looking up stay on the younger side. 105 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: What is their number one one question? Can I guess? Actually? 106 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, please go? 107 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: Can I get what you're guessing? Your number one question 108 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 2: that children ask? Yeah, like I'm guessing number one. 109 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: Okay. 110 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: By that, I mean like I don't know top three 111 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: how to get pregnant. I'm gonna say, does it hurt? 112 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: It? Does it hurt? 113 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 4: Does it hurt? I feel like we haven't gotten those questions. 114 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: I feel you'd be surprised teenagers by how nuanced the 115 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 3: conversations get. Like we had one student in our last 116 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 3: court and she kept asking these questions that I had 117 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 3: never heard before. And I've been doing sex ed for 118 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 3: years and years, and I remember like one question she asked. 119 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 3: There was no answer for it on the internet. It 120 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 3: was something about like keegel muscles and people with penises 121 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: and whether that was the muscle that I don't even 122 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 3: know something related to that, and I remember there was 123 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,119 Speaker 3: no answer anywhere on the internet. So I started hitting 124 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 3: up all of my male friends, being like, when you 125 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 3: like flex this muscle, does it do this, and like 126 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 3: trying to like source for her. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that 127 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 3: was like her question, and so I was like. 128 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: Trying to source teenagers asking about a man's kegels and 129 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: making a dick jump. 130 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: Yep, Oh, they ain't real advancing. That's that. 131 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: I didn't even know a dick jump till I was 132 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 2: twenty four. It took me a while to see a 133 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: nigga do a little and I like that. Now I'm 134 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: not gonna lie. I had my man do a little 135 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 2: dick jump the other day and I was like, you can. 136 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: Make your titty jump too. He went left right, And 137 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: now I'm convinced. 138 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: He wait, he didn't wait, he could make his boobs 139 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 2: like move, he just could. He like, it's just your chest, 140 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: the pecks. 141 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 4: I'm seeing women who could do that. 142 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 2: Oh no, I know, but but I ain't gonna hold you. 143 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: I would be he had a different light, bitch that 144 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: nigga was a strip. 145 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: B He's really laughing, like, I don't know why you 146 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: think that. I'm like, I see it, I feel it. 147 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: You can give me really good massages. 148 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: Suddenly, Yo, Dick just could jump on a man and 149 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 2: your titty pop's giving sex worker. 150 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: It's giving jump phone nick list dude. Okay, so, uh 151 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: fourteen through eighteen. I do want to talk about teenagers, yes, 152 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: but I also want to talk about younger younger, some 153 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: period stuff. I think that's like the number one thing. 154 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: And this is two kids, by the way, that I 155 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: helped with friends. Why are why are they trusting you? 156 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: Because they just like, oh, you're a sex educator. I'm like, well, 157 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: I teach hold him through. You already saw what happened? 158 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: What was it in Dallas? 159 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: I said that I was watching my friend kids because 160 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: she had to go to work real quick, and I 161 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: was like, girl, I got you, and and Chrystal was like, 162 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 2: I need to talk to Brett because she's leaving you. 163 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: With her kids. 164 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: Like I get the ad. The kids, Oh they're like 165 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: four and six, and I don't do that. 166 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: Shut up. 167 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: And then my other homegirl was mad because we was 168 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: drooling over Tie Dolla signed together, and she was like, 169 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: my daughter is thirteen. Can you not be sitting here 170 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: talking about Tie dollar Sign and how. 171 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 4: She's gonna talk about it anyway. She don't talk about 172 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 4: them anyway. 173 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: You know. Well, here's the thing. When people don't have 174 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: kids and they start watching toddlers. I don't it sound 175 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: like you're you'd be terrible around the kids. I think 176 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: the only thing I'd be worried about is your mouth. No, 177 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: no, no no. So here's the thing. It sounds like you're 178 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: gonna stay and fuck to these kids. But Mandy gonna 179 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: be on the phone. It was. It was perfect. So 180 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: this this is the new kid era. 181 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: Shout out to the Talas and Technology iPad time and 182 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 2: they put their headphones on and they be in the iPad. 183 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: I had to do shit. I was on my laptop, 184 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: they was on the iPads. It worked out what and 185 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: I was like, y'all good? And then I came over 186 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 2: with some little cake pots from Starbucks. 187 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: They loved me. It was good. I was such a 188 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: judgy person about parents. I don't know if anyone else 189 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: has had this moment, this listening. I would be on 190 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: a plane or something. I'd be like, look at a restaurant. 191 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: Look at these kids glued to the iPad. This is ridiculous. 192 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: Their eyes are so focused on this. Blah blah blah. Bitch. 193 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: I watched a three year old the other day for 194 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: six hours. 195 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: Here, you want my portable battery butt? H uh huh, 196 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: yeah no, I do think. What why I don't know 197 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: how to write a curse up today? I mean listen, 198 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 2: and they know the internet anyway, Okay, let's get back 199 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 2: to uh. 200 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: I was a gonna say sex and kids. 201 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, this is second use the sex education. 202 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: I did actually want to cut this really quick, and 203 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: I know you're here so you can help us with 204 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: some of this dialogue. Okay, Mandy and I had a 205 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: conversation a few weeks ago about rising rates on HIV 206 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: and we got a letter from a listener with a 207 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: bunch of info about PREP and DOXY. And I think 208 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: it's perfect because you can jump in on this. Ladies. 209 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of the show. Most recent episode, 210 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: you were discussing PREP and DOXY and I wanted to 211 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: give you info to share with listeners in case they're 212 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: unfamiliar for background, I am a gay man who's been 213 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: on PREP for seven years. PREP stands for pre exposure 214 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: prophylaxis YEP, which means you take it before a possible 215 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: exposure as protection. There are three different types of PREP 216 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: true Rada, Deskovi, and the newest is APT Preytude. I've 217 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: never heard this. Truvada and Dscovie are both pills you 218 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: take daily. A Apptitude is an injection YEP with the 219 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: first two sho oh, that's the shot yep. Okay, with 220 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: the first two shots taken one month apart, and then 221 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: one shot every other month. I believe Truvada and Applitude 222 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: are the only approved PREP medications for women, however, and 223 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: Truvada is the one I'm sure you ask Yeah, that's 224 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: what I asked for. Back to the day, PEP stands 225 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: for post exposure prophylaxis. With PEP, you can take it 226 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: within seventy two hours of a possible exposure. This is 227 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: the pill. If anybody remembers that I told my homeboy 228 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: to get that he was taken. It's one pill taken 229 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: every day for twenty eight days. Okay, that's not the 230 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: one he got and it lowers the risk of contracting 231 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: HIV by more than eighty percent. No, this should only 232 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: be taken in emergency situations and not something you rely 233 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: on frequently after having unprotected sex, because it is one 234 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: of those that you can become like whatever. 235 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 3: So it's an anti viral, right, and my understanding is 236 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 3: both of them are in anti virals. So you want 237 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 3: to be really careful with the medication because it's the 238 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 3: same type of medication that's used to treat HIV if 239 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 3: you do test positive. 240 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 4: At any point. So you don't want your body to 241 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 4: become like there we can. 242 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: If you take it too much. That's yeah, that's what 243 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: could happen. You have more information, yeah, sop. He also 244 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: brings up He says, emphasizing again that PREP and PEP 245 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: produces your risk of contracting HIV only not other SuDS 246 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: and seis now doxy PEP. That's the one I gave 247 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: my friend my bad. It's post exposure preventive medication doxy cycling, 248 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: which is an antibiotic, and with doxy you take two 249 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: pills at the same time within seventy two hours of exposure, 250 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: and it reduces syphilis, chlamytee and Gonnrhia risk obviously talk 251 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: with healthcare providers, hoping this information will get you started. 252 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: Best law. I thought that was helpful, absolutely, because I 253 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: know we were just spitballing about what we know. 254 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 2: So just a little run and I love if there's 255 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: any other healthcare providers too. I know someone reached out 256 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: to me from an Atlanta clinic who actually administers it, 257 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: like that's what their focus is on, and me and 258 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: Cinnamon are looking to do that. So anyone who has 259 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 2: any information about PEP prep all the things, please reach 260 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 2: out in our email because I would love to. 261 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: Communicate with you guys. Yeah, when we can get a 262 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: gilead or talk to treat on, I'll let you know 263 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: I'll okay with them, all right, Vanello? Shit, So I 264 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: want to talk about some of the stats you had 265 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: on your Instagram. Oh, Youth Sexpert program, Americans say sex 266 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: that in school did not prepare them for sex in 267 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: real life. That's an eight, that's a no ship. Yeah, 268 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: anybody that. I don't think anyone learned that. However, I 269 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: feel like all of us in the room should talk 270 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: about one thing we actually learned from it. You know 271 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: what's crazy. 272 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 2: The only thing that I remember is for the ladies 273 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 2: specifically is abstinence, which teaching abstinence takes it away from 274 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: you learning anything the fuck else. Yeah, so it's literally, hey, 275 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: don't have sex otherwise you're gonna get pregnant or die. 276 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 2: And that's literally it. It was like, you're gonna catch 277 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 2: a TIV or you're gonna get pregnant. You don't want 278 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: to do either, so just stay away from dick. That's 279 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 2: that's what they taught me in school. I remember learning 280 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 2: I had another hole that It was crazy, what do 281 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 2: you mean another hole? You know, when they blow up 282 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 2: the picture of the pussy. I was like like, you'reth Yeah, 283 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 2: I thought you thought the dick was gonna go into 284 00:12:58,400 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 2: that little pio. 285 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: No, I thought I was peeing out of my pussy. 286 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, question. And I also thought that at something. 287 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 2: Well, you learned that in sex head not anatomy, because 288 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: isn't that anatomy? First of all, bitch, you're asking me 289 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: a lot of things. I'll say at school today, you. 290 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: Went to literally the human body, which I think is anatomy. No, 291 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: but that I remember that being sex said, because we 292 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: were started talking about uh where it goes blah blah blah. 293 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: But I remember thinking, like, I don't pee out my pussy, 294 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: but I do pe out my pus what and like, yo, 295 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 1: it fucked me up. All I know is they damn sure, 296 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: I ain't teach that a woman could take dick in 297 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: the boodahle Like there was no conversation about women at 298 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: all having anal sex ever. That was just that was 299 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: just man sex. That's that's the whole for a man 300 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 1: to go in. Do you talk about anal sex? 301 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, we talk about We talk about everything. 302 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 1: How do you talk about anal sex? 303 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 3: The teenagers honestly, openly and honestly and prioritizing safety. We 304 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 3: tell them, if you're using butt plugs at any point, 305 00:13:58,320 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 3: you want to pick a toy with a base, you 306 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 3: lots of lou breathe in and out. 307 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 2: WHOA Okay, so I have me and me weezy and 308 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 2: who else was on that episode? All I know is 309 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 2: we had a conversation where a teacher was fired for 310 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: teaching children how to masturbate, and we all were talking 311 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 2: about what is too much for a teacher to share 312 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 2: or someone that's not the parent. So I want to 313 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 2: ask you, yes, there's a permission slip, but do you 314 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: not think that teaching teenagers about how to lube up 315 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: and buy certain sized butt plugs? Is that too much 316 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: for someone that's not a parent to be talking about 317 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 2: sex to a child. 318 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 3: So as a part of that answer, I'll say that 319 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 3: on our consent forms, we offer opt in and opt 320 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 3: out options for each individual lesson, the hook there being 321 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 3: that if a parent is uncomfortable with a certain topic 322 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 3: or wants to address it in their home privately, we 323 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 3: have thousand percent respect that. 324 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: We tell me more, what kind of stuff can you 325 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: opt out from? 326 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 4: So we give a blurb for what each lesson includes. 327 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: So we have lessons on self pleasure, We tell parents 328 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 3: that we're going to be talking about sex toys. We 329 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 3: have lessons on and even like what sex worker rights 330 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 3: look like around the world. We have lessons on, yeah, 331 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 3: what BDSM looks like. And the parents, Yeah, the parents 332 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 3: who do sign sign up, or at least with our 333 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 3: last cohort, they signed, they opted in for everything. 334 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: I wonder how many I wonder how many of these 335 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 2: parents that are opting for their children to learn all 336 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 2: of these things are in lifestyle Because I just recently 337 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: came across an article where they were questioning the psychological 338 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 2: effects of children growing up in lifestyle homes where their 339 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: parents may throw orgies or clearly their auntsy is the unicorn, 340 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 2: and what kind of psychological effect that could have on 341 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 2: the children that are present in the all. 342 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: But I'm sorry, go ahead, sorry, I will say. 343 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 3: On the other side of things, there's tons of research 344 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 3: around how students who actually receive truly comprehensive sex education 345 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 3: are more likely to make their sexual debut later on 346 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 3: in life. So thinking about, yeah, how much mystery there 347 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 3: is around sex leading to all of that curiosity, and 348 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 3: then combine that with the lack of education, you have 349 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 3: young people who are engaging in partnered sex, maybe at 350 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 3: a younger age than they otherwise would and maybe aren't. 351 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: I was judging you about a few minutes ago. No no, no, 352 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: no, no no, but let me that's fine, let me go. 353 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: Out right, like, yeah, it changed my mind when I realized, yes, 354 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 2: you're right. 355 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: So at first I was like, what the fuck is 356 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: she teaching kids mediasm for it? Like that was going 357 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: on in my brain. However, what you just said true, 358 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: My mom talked about sex so much at home. Obviously, 359 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: you guys know I was fucking right. But when it 360 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: comes to safety, when it came to the first time 361 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: a man was aggressive with me, when it came to 362 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: sex with women, like, I felt so comfortable having discussions 363 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: and coming to her because I'm gonna do it anyway. Yeah, right, 364 00:16:53,720 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: and you went sorry, But I do so. I also 365 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: think the number one thing I remembered not that my 366 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: debut took a certain amount of time. However pressure a 367 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: lot of my friends that didn't want to have sex 368 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 1: with boys at a certain age kind of did. I 369 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: felt very secure and understanding about saying no, what things 370 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: look like, or when guys told me, oh, well, I'm 371 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: hard and it's gonna hurt if this and that, Like, 372 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: you know, teenage boys are pressuring. Yeah, I do think 373 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: because I had a little bit of advanced sex said 374 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: that saved me from some uncomfortable situations. Yeah, and you're right. 375 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: The curiosity of what things are like may keep a 376 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: kid from. 377 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 2: Fucking now, because it's like, if you're going to go 378 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: out and start exploring BDSM or looking it up on 379 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 2: your own without. 380 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: An expert telling you, I see what you're saying, I'm 381 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: go ahead. 382 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 3: I think that there are a lot of conversations that 383 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 3: people are increasingly more comfortable having with young people, like 384 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 3: conversations about consent or boundaries or barrier methods or things 385 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 3: like that that you might see in conventional sex head 386 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 3: I think the prob a little bit there is it's 387 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 3: not like once you hit eighteen and you're at that 388 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 3: age appropriate marker that they're somewhere for you to magically 389 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 3: learn all of this. You're still picking things up as 390 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 3: you go and still a lot of the time not 391 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 3: making decisions that are empowered informed, et cetera. So even 392 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 3: if we view it as educating young people for their future, 393 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 3: that is better to me than just leaving them with 394 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 3: no resources, just leaving them to their own devices. 395 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: Can I ask I would love to know in terms 396 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 2: of having these open conversations about sex. I know, as 397 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 2: a millennial, the narrative was if you fuck a boy, 398 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 2: he'll like you more. What is the conversation around teaching 399 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 2: women that given the pussy up to these little boys, 400 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: ain't gonna make this motherfucker like you more, ain't gonna 401 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: make him treat you better, ain't gona make him give 402 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 2: you more attention. Because I just know that that was 403 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 2: kind of like, you know, yeah, is. 404 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: The sex said that, like because that's not necessarily sex, 405 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: but you know, experience, but do you talk about it? 406 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, we we try to talk about the social aspect 407 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 3: of things, especially like incorporating like TikTok, and we're we're 408 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 3: huge on social like we're really into social media our team, 409 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 3: so we try to like, yeah, bring it to them, 410 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 3: and we try to also like see what the conversations 411 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 3: are that are happening on social media. I would say 412 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 3: in regards to that in particular, I think a big 413 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 3: part of that is like really going back to the 414 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 3: beginning and defining what sex is, what sex means. So 415 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 3: when we're having conversations about birth control, abortion things like that, 416 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 3: we have conversations about is the purpose of sex reproduction? 417 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 3: Or when we're having conversations about self pleasure, we have 418 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 3: conversations about is this also sex? 419 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: I would love to tell you real quick, I actually 420 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: really want to know you're maybe let's just say you're 421 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: in a small class of two or three people, right 422 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: and fourteen and you start talking about self pleasure. You 423 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: know in your brain that you're educating these kids, But 424 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: is there a party that feels like, oh god, this 425 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: is getting awkward or weird? 426 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 3: No, really, I think I also had been doing sex 427 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 3: education for years before, and so whatever sort of oh 428 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 3: my god, this is so weird, like why am I 429 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 3: talking about sex in this space? 430 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: Well, pleasure, to me, though, is a harder conversation have been. 431 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: That's what we had to come Yeah, that's really what 432 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: I'm talking about, not you teaching kids even beds. I'm 433 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: to be honest, Hey, this is bondage, this is this. 434 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: These can be restrained. This is a safe word. But 435 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: leasure aspect pleasure is interesting, Like when you're talking about 436 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: self pleasure with teenagers, are you talking about privacy or 437 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: we're talking about how to do it? Or are you 438 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: just talking about why no shame around it? 439 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 4: What is it? 440 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 3: So we definitely talk about privacy, we definitely have really 441 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 3: in depth conversations about the logistics of self pleasure. We 442 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 3: do talk about sex twice. I remember that lesson in 443 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 3: particular being pretty striking for me because we had an 444 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 3: interactive activity where we were having kids connect the name 445 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 3: of the sex toy to the toy. Every single one 446 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 3: of our students knew every single They were like, that's 447 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 3: a butt plug, that's a dil dough, that's a rabbit, 448 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 3: vibrator and I was like, oh, okay, so they. 449 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 1: Found their parents. Bro, it's just a different time to 450 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: me in my opinion. I know I'm meeting a lot of. 451 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 2: In shout out to some of the people in Dallas, 452 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 2: two people said they've been listening to a side since 453 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: I school. 454 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 3: Now. 455 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: I want to say this because in my brain I 456 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: think people in their thirties and forties listen horrible. But 457 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: I just had a conversation last night we man where 458 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: we were like, Bro, do you remember when we had 459 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: to run to the computer to figure out what something 460 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: was and keep looking and waiting for some to download 461 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: and watching it and looking at it. And you're pre 462 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: exposed to all this, like. 463 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 2: All of it, even through television and the TV shows 464 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 2: and things that are literally just on basic cable, even. 465 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: The Costay with Merrill where he's like my daughter, he 466 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: said something about his daughter walking and having sex like 467 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: not sorry wife, Yeah, and when it happened, he was like, 468 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: she already knew what this was. Five but it does not. 469 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: It's literally the stuff they're clicking on. Yeah, no, it's 470 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: it's a bit crazy. 471 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 2: I want to I do want to go back to 472 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 2: those basic questions that she asked, because I would like 473 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 2: to know the answers what is sex and is it 474 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 2: just for reproduction? Like how do you explain that to 475 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 2: a child? 476 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember that in that lesson particularly, we use 477 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 3: this Sexplanations video okay, where she talks about trying to 478 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 3: find a definition herself and it being a really complicated 479 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 3: and nuanced question. Right. Only sort of universal thing that 480 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 3: seemed to define sex was consent and that if there 481 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 3: wasn't consent then it wasn't I like that. But other 482 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 3: than that, it's a pretty I. 483 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: Really like, I really like that definition. Though if there 484 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 2: isn't consent, then it's not sex. 485 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 3: And it's not sex, and even and when you're having 486 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 3: sex with yourself, like checking in and the concept of 487 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 3: self consent and thinking through that. 488 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 4: But yeah, so other than that, it's pretty broad. 489 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 3: It's open ended. People define sex differently there. Yeah, there 490 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 3: are so many things that can factor into arousal. 491 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 2: There's when I was dating a woman that we weren't 492 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 2: really having sex and I got so you just say 493 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 2: that ship really well, because sex to a lot of 494 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 2: people is penis and vagina. 495 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: If it's not that, it's not so we get it. 496 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: I totally understand it. 497 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: That's why I said, even when the tip one in 498 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 2: your ass, it's anal it was there like or some. 499 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: People it might be. 500 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 2: To some people it might not because not like sorry, 501 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: I'm not like, was it a you know what you're getting? 502 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: Fuck? Real hardness? 503 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 3: Like? 504 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: Oh no, I asked, right, I'm just gonnat take it. 505 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: I'm also trying to think for a second, Oh is 506 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: it mainly girls? 507 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? It is mainly girls, And I. 508 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 2: Think we need we need more men up in there 509 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 2: learning and consent at an early goddamn age, can't rejection. 510 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 2: There was just a video I saw going viral that 511 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 2: a lady was like, Yeah, if a man asks for 512 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 2: my number, I'm gonna just give it to him because 513 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 2: I like my life more and the block button works. 514 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 2: And so the conversations that really need to be taught 515 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 2: are two little boys yes and teenage boys around rejection, 516 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: around consent, around like even not applying pressure. If a 517 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 2: girl says no, that means no, that doesn't mean persist 518 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 2: and keep pushing until she gives in. 519 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: Uh. 520 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,719 Speaker 2: That's really unfortunate that this isn't being pushed even today 521 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 2: for more boys to learn, especially seeing the Diddy era. 522 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: The me too, Era, the Harvey Weinstein, the R Kelly, 523 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 2: I could keep going all the names. 524 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 4: That's yeah, you know, that's something we think a lot about. 525 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 3: But even like we're trying to be strategic in our branding, 526 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 3: we try not to use like. 527 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 4: It is very pain feminine colors. We tried to do 528 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 4: like green orange. 529 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,959 Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean even yesterday at summit we got 530 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 3: to talk to like a lot of teenage boys and 531 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 3: like that was really cool, or they. 532 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 2: Asked you about how to please a woman. I feel 533 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 2: like that's all a little way one to. 534 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 3: Know they hadn't at that event, but I could totally 535 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 3: anticipate that being something that happened if we actually had 536 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 3: What are what are boys for? 537 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: The ones that are joining this program? 538 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 4: What are they asking? We haven't had any boys yet? 539 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 4: What haven't had any boys yet? 540 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: It's a girl. We need to make a whole nother 541 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: little up. 542 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 2: It needs to be the boys sex youth, Like we 543 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 2: need to make a whole other portion for these teenage boys. 544 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow. 545 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,479 Speaker 2: And I think what's crazy about it too, is with 546 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 2: this podcast and with so many women talking about, you know, 547 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 2: them feeling empowered to have sex out of their own pleasure. 548 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 2: Women now saying that, go, I'm as horny as a 549 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 2: man is. It's I believe that younger girls are seeking 550 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 2: to educate themselves so that they can do I. 551 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: Don't know if men necessarily feel like this warm, super safe, 552 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: you can talk to new space. 553 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 2: And I don't mean that as men are not that. 554 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 2: I just think they aren't as vocal women are. 555 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: So what do you need? For example, one of my 556 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: homeboys great an active father, and he said he saw 557 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: a message where his kid was scared to talk to him. 558 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: He's like, we talk all the time, and he was like, 559 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: but I've never said the words you can talk to 560 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: me about X y Z. He was like, I just 561 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: thought being active was enough. And through that conversation, he's like, 562 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: there's so many things you have to spoon feed teenager, 563 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: you know, but women do that and I guess men 564 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: you're just like, oh, you know, you want to be 565 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: the guys. I don't know, but I could see that, 566 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: and I guess maybe it could even be weirder. Are 567 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: there men that work on the youth sexpert There aren't currently, 568 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: but we Yeah, I'm trying to think of so maybe 569 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: it's got to be a man. 570 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, part, Look if we have mail board members. 571 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: And get you a part of this program to teach. 572 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:52,479 Speaker 2: The the you men, Yeah, you'll do it. 573 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: I feel, well, what would you tell them? Would you tell. 574 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 2: Them, we'll tell them to eat beat you this ship? 575 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: Would you tell them to refrain to have sex and 576 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: so they're in love? What would y'all say? 577 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,479 Speaker 2: What would y'all teach? Is there a mic over there 578 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: or no? Okay, just yeah, they said, leading Niggs out 579 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 2: the conversation. What what would y'all What would be the 580 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 2: number one go to that you would teach? What would 581 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 2: you tell a young boy? 582 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? 583 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 2: What do you think you needed to protection? Okay, that's 584 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 2: all they know. I think how to wear a contract? 585 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 4: I think for young men in particular. 586 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 3: Maybe this is me speculating, but I feel like when 587 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 3: you're growing up, there's this like formulate this is what 588 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 3: sex is, or even like this is how your penis works, 589 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 3: Like you get a boner, it's a there's like a 590 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 3: physiological response. You masturbate, you orgasm, you come, whatever, and 591 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 3: then that's it. That's done, and there's no more conversation 592 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 3: about pleasure, about the existence of pleasure products, about the 593 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 3: existence of lube, about the psychology behind everything about all 594 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 3: of these different aspects. It's just like boom boom boomer. 595 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 2: And it is because it's still physical, because for us, 596 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 2: all of our arousal is happening inside and you can't 597 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 2: really tell. I mean, you could tell when it gets wet, 598 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 2: but even squirting, that didn't happen for me for so long. 599 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: Like you know, that's something they're learning. 600 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 3: Every Yes, I feel like so many people with wel 601 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 3: of us approach like first have their orgasms at a 602 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 3: later age because of that. Largely, Like I feel like 603 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 3: I lived a long part of my life just ignoring 604 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 3: the fact that I had a glitterist at all, because. 605 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:23,719 Speaker 4: I didn't really know. 606 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: That's the one I knew. 607 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 2: Man in a boat at what year? At what year 608 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 2: did you have your first orgasm? 609 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 4: Eighteen? 610 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: You had an orgasm at eighteen? 611 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 4: Yeah? 612 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: What was it? Was it with toys? Was it by yourself? 613 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 4: It was with a partner? 614 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: And what did he do? 615 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 4: He hate my pussy? 616 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: And you okay? And you came that way. 617 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 2: Now I think about it, I probably I ain't gonna 618 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: hold you. I had some good dick when I was young, 619 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 2: like the nigga. 620 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: That alls fuck it was good ass. 621 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 3: Book well, I had my first orgasm, but I had 622 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 3: already been sexually active, saying I was already having penetrative 623 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 3: sex and not enjoying it and not really understanding like 624 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 3: why I did enjoy it, and thinking that something was 625 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 3: wrong with me. 626 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: I was coming from how playing house with the girls. 627 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: Oh see, I didn't orgasm there, and I did you 628 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: feel the rest? So to me? 629 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 2: So to me probably up until penetrative sex, everything about, 630 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 2: Like I didn't even play with myself with my fingers 631 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 2: until I was over eighteen. I liked to rub on things, 632 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 2: and I liked to fell the little hot, burning sensation 633 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 2: down there, and then I liked to read books and 634 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 2: then just feel and feel myself being wet. But I 635 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 2: do nothing else but besides getting wet and feeling like 636 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 2: it throbbed. That's it until I started having penetrative sex. 637 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 2: And then I that's how I know I can come 638 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 2: up penetrative sex. 639 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: Not really anything. Yeah, I was. I was a rambunctious 640 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: like but I think I was gay first, So I 641 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: think because of that, like eight nine tenth, it was 642 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: never a little boy. It was always like girls in 643 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: the neighborhood. Oh I did I go hold you? 644 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 2: I was lunching on boys and girls. Sorry, Mom, if 645 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 2: you listen into this, all like the girlfriends that my 646 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 2: daddy used to date day kids, we would be in 647 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 2: the closet under the bed, we would play house. I 648 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 2: was hunching on everybody my age. 649 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: I was coming too. I feel bad. 650 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I wasn't like it wasn't naked, but we 651 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 2: was hunching with the jeans and shit like that. Shit 652 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 2: was happy. I was hunching Teddy Bears. I was hunching 653 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 2: the edge of my bed. 654 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 4: I was punching your bed, the pillow, the shower. 655 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: I feel like, oh when this ower head came off. 656 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 2: Baby, never did power head I used to put that thing. 657 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 4: I never did it for me either. 658 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 3: But I feel like it is interesting how we all 659 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 3: like are expected to just find it or just kind 660 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 3: of figure it out in these like really private alone space. 661 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,719 Speaker 1: But adults should be doing that. And you know what 662 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: adults should be doing, well, clarifying and it should be 663 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: finding it. And I think a lot of the issue 664 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: with not having sex said early or conversations even is 665 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: that when you become an adult and you can't have 666 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: your first orgasm, it's because you're not doing that shit. 667 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: I remember like knowing I needed my nipples stimulated, or 668 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: just things I had to learn as I grew. I 669 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: actually want to like segue into something that I changed 670 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: my mind on. It's a little bit about children, not sexuality. 671 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 2: The way you'd be saying this whole episode is given, like, bro, 672 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 2: just say a full sentence talk about children. 673 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: Okay, sorry from I like to play with my nipples, 674 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: but speaking of children, Okay, that was really bad. I 675 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: don't know, okay, Vanilla ship. This is why I want 676 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: to talk about it. And it was like literally a 677 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: few hours ago. So the teacher with the unbraiding of 678 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: the hair in the student, my oh boy, change today. 679 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: Original stance? Okay, I want to start by saying, yeah 680 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: this if you haven't seen this video, I felt so 681 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: awful for this guy that got fired. It was some 682 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: of his girls, students, the black man with students just 683 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: unbraiding his hair. Apparently it's like the end of school 684 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: or something, and he was on his way to appointment 685 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: in a rush. It wasn't sexual, it was being videotaped. Fine, now, 686 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: so what your original stance on that bit was? First 687 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: stance when I saw this says, this is so innocent. 688 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: This is just kids just playing. If it was a woman, 689 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: I've played in their hair. But then I realized, So 690 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: I started having a conversation about teachers today. Right, so 691 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: my boyfriend has dated a teacher before, and he's like, Yo, 692 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: it's crazy because the students text you, the students try 693 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: to find your Instagram. He's like, there's no fucking boundary. 694 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: When we were kids, we were looking at teachers like 695 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: they were old as fool as shit. He's like, and 696 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: now it's like there was no barrier. I guess with 697 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: the girl he dated in the kids the students were 698 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: writing about assignments at certain times, and although she wasn't 699 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: being inappropriate, he's like, that's already inappropriate to me. 700 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 2: And then I thought about it. I'm like, like that video. 701 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 2: Do you think that video is bad? 702 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: And he was like, if we had a fucking daughter 703 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: and you saw a video of her taking out her 704 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: teacher's hair, what the fuck is she doing in this 705 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: nigga's head? 706 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 2: And I really was thinking, and I thought to myself, 707 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 2: I would have been fucking living if my kid is 708 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 2: in school, not no girls club, where ain't no curriculum 709 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 2: going on, and you playing a growing ass man's head, nigga, 710 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 2: cancel your appointment. 711 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: We all ship to do. Shit goes wrong. You know 712 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: what time you get out of school every time? Why 713 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: are these little girls doing this? Why didn't you stop them? 714 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: Why am I thinking this is innocent? There should be 715 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: a boundary with teachers. The shit shouldn't be that fucking cool. 716 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: You can have good relationships with staff members or teachers 717 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,239 Speaker 1: and not sexualize. And I'm not saying he was doing 718 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: anything sexual, but why the fuck is this happening. My 719 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: kids should not be going to school doing any service 720 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: for you, Like, that's weird to me. So this is 721 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: now what you think. 722 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 2: I really didn't think it at first, Mandy, because in 723 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 2: my brain I always think we over sexualize things. 724 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: I agree. However, when I sat and thought about if 725 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: it was my kid, I was like, yeah, and it's 726 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: even as an adult. Hold on, as an adult, I 727 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: think back that I used to do that for my teacher. 728 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: What the fuck? 729 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 4: I know. 730 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 3: I have those moments all the time where I've realized 731 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 3: that I was like a child and there were teachers 732 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 3: maybe like making some weird inappropriate choke with me or 733 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 3: whatever it might be. And I do think I'm gen 734 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 3: z so I remember like looking up my teachers on 735 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 3: Facebook and trying to be in their business. But I 736 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 3: do think as the adult, it's on you to create 737 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 3: me as. 738 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: A millennial, I think. 739 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 2: I feel like so with that, I feel like we 740 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 2: definitely sexualized it. There was another teacher recently with a 741 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 2: bald head who was getting diamonds put on his head. 742 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 2: A principle, actually not even a teacher. The principal was 743 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 2: getting Ryan stones put on his head. He ain't get fired. 744 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 2: To me, I do think if that was a woman teacher, 745 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 2: it wouldn't have been said anything. 746 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 1: My only issue is down the rabbit hole of going 747 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: through his TikTok. 748 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 2: He was sexualizing some girl that it was obvious she 749 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 2: was under age, so he was on some weirdo shit 750 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 2: on his TikTok. But for the sticking there, I actually 751 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 2: don't think there was anything wrong. I do think we 752 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 2: over sexualized. 753 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 1: Even if it was your kid, even if it was 754 00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: my kid. 755 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 2: Well, and I guess I come from a especially seeing 756 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 2: that it was little black girls like I grew up 757 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 2: with a like my high school at a cosmetology school 758 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 2: in it so like my cousin did my hair to 759 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 2: me literally between classes, at the lunch room after school program, 760 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 2: people are doing hair. 761 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: There's some black shit like getting get intwisted. I get it, 762 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 1: but why is my kid doing a service for you? 763 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: But that's the thing too, to see it was a 764 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: group of girls. It wasn't just one girl. To me, 765 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: it was a group. 766 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 2: My only problem was, and I've said this to a 767 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 2: few adults, my problem was a that he put it 768 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 2: on social media for me if I had for me, 769 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 2: if I had a child, I don't want my little 770 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 2: girl on no grown man's Instagram where there's probably more 771 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 2: grown men for. 772 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: To see her. 773 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 2: Like to me, that would be my probably big thing 774 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 2: with raising a little girl right now is keeping her 775 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 2: out of the views or reach of grown men having accessibility. 776 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: I think the touching also, there needs to be a 777 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: boundary with touching and I don't And maybe that's what 778 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: I started to think about, like the touching is too much. 779 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: But to me hair Also, I just want to say 780 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: this for any men listening that may feel like we're, 781 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: you know, coming down on the male teacher. I'm sorry, Mandy. 782 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: I actually think women teachers when I see these clothes 783 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,879 Speaker 1: they be wearing. No, no, no, do you know the little 784 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: doe here fucking these boys. 785 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 2: Every time I look up sex in the news for 786 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 2: vanilla shit, it's another fucking teacher fucking a high school boy. 787 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, people are totally predatory both ways. 788 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 1: Every time I see one of the BBL teachers, and 789 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be funny, I'm I'm not you 790 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: calling them a BBL. There are BBL teachers that fucking 791 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: be like, is this wrong? It's my body. What are 792 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: you fucking talking about, bitch, Like, yes, you're not going 793 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: to the club. You don't need to. Fucking we see 794 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: the belt on the goddamn last whole stop it. Like, 795 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, fit girls being ostracized for wearing the same 796 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: thing as skinny girls. I totally get it. I get 797 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: it when we're talking about anything else outside, but for school, 798 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: that's not fair. 799 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 2: Because I'm gonna tell you right now, there was this 800 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 2: motherfucking teacher that was the pe coach in high school. 801 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 2: He was about twenty three years old. Baby, he was 802 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 2: fine when I say fine, or. 803 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. 804 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 2: So the way you're talking, because okay, there's bodies, there's 805 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 2: things like so, then should a fine ass nigga not 806 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 2: be a teacher either. 807 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: That you got twent thirteen, fourteen year old fourteen and 808 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: you wearing these tight ass fucking dresses that are sexy 809 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: enough to make a fucking TikTok okay, but now these 810 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 1: little boys are over sexualizing you. But we over here 811 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: thinking that it's just the man okay, six or four 812 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 1: with basketball shorts and a white beater on my motherfucking pea, 813 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: And I did want to. I wanted to suck his fight. 814 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 2: It doesn't I'm saying, when you're crushertaine yes, but I'm 815 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 2: not talking about attractive people. 816 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: I'm talking about inappropriate it's with the outfits. I'm tired 817 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 1: of fucking acting like Bro. I'm not trying to be 818 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: no maga bitch, but I'm sorry. I'm a like on 819 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: some real shit. I'm the girl who is out here saying, 820 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: fuck whoever you want fucking have three husbands, three wives, 821 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 1: being an open relationship. But I'm an adult and why 822 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: the fuck are we crossing this goddamn line with kids? 823 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 1: And I really think these bitches on TikTok with this 824 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: weird shit. I was in a hole, bro when I 825 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: saw this, and I'm like, I cannot believe we're acting 826 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: like she should be free to wear whatever she wants 827 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: when the goddamn pants is up her ass. 828 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 3: Well, Okay, I think on one hand, there's like a 829 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 3: lot to be said about like the sexualization of certain 830 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 3: clothing pieces generally, or just our bodies as a whole. 831 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 3: But I also think to what you're saying, like and 832 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 3: also to the incident with the hair, Like, schools are 833 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 3: still a workplace for teachers, So there are certain workplace 834 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 3: norms that you wouldn't break in a workplace with adults. 835 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 3: So why are we so comfortable breaking them around children? 836 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 4: Oh that's a great way. 837 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: I actually really fuck with it because I would not. 838 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:55,800 Speaker 1: I didn't think take my hair out in front of 839 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: people that work. They would think of your motherfucker hair out. 840 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 1: Work is secret home. It does this work. 841 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 2: You don't take your hair on the motherfucker podcast. So bitch, 842 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 2: it's it's a work environment. Anyway, let us get this. 843 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: Fucking bitch. Okay, you were talking about semen and prostate 844 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: fluid on your page. 845 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I. 846 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 1: Like Louis, Yeah, tell me a little bit about that. 847 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, what were we talking about in terms of Stephen 848 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 4: and prostate fluid? 849 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 3: I think just that they're different and that there are 850 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 3: tons of enzymes that work towards the evolutionary goal of 851 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 3: getting the sperm to the egg. But when we do 852 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 3: go over the anatomy of the penis and of the volva, 853 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 3: just all anatomy, point blank period. We really try to 854 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 3: approach it, not in the way that schools might necessarily 855 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,280 Speaker 3: approach it. I feel like I remember from the animal 856 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 3: like sex that I got in school that it was 857 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 3: a lot of like ovaries and Filippian tubes and the uterus, 858 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,919 Speaker 3: and I was like, where's my clitterists, where's my reath? 859 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 4: Threat? There wasn't a lot of that. 860 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 3: So in addition to talking about the sorts of anatomy 861 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 3: that you're more likely to get in school, we also 862 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 3: try to talk about the clitteral your rethroll network, and 863 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 3: we try to talk about homologous sex organs how like 864 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 3: we're all pretty much the same and he penis penis exactly, 865 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 3: So that's like pretty much where we start. 866 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 2: Can I ask you how your boodhle get aroused? Because 867 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,320 Speaker 2: sometimes my boodahle do just be a little juicy, but 868 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 2: like it's like whoa why is a juicy? Like my pussy, yes, 869 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 2: gets wet, but sometimes my boot my bussy get wait too, 870 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 2: you will know if I actually have an answer. 871 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 1: You don't know about how the bussy get wet. 872 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 4: No, but I can't tell you that I have experienced 873 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 4: the same thing. 874 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: Oh so that's what I want you to do the research. 875 00:40:58,560 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 4: Okay, I'll come back. 876 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no, it's not a leaky but 877 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 2: but like while I'm aroused, like like the last time 878 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 2: I had antal sex, baby, we didn't even use lube. 879 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 1: I was really aroused. Let me let it down there. 880 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,800 Speaker 1: Why do my boot why do my boot atal cavity? 881 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 1: Ain'tal cavity? Is crazy? No, because that's why does my 882 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: anis get wet? What is that being telling me? Nigga? 883 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 1: We can't wait for him to Okay, why talk about it? 884 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 1: Rectal discharge? 885 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 5: It is? 886 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: It is clear what it ain't sweat. I don't like 887 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: that you're picking out automatic bitches. Got I b s. 888 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 4: I don't know what I've met like excited, That's what 889 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 4: I'm saying. 890 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 1: Let me see I'm trying to do. What are you 891 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 1: asking now? 892 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:52,240 Speaker 2: Why why does my anal where? What is anal lubrication? 893 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:57,240 Speaker 2: How does it now show you lube. Well, these bitches, 894 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 2: when's a sex educator analyze that whole got a little 895 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 2: something and expert. 896 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: Apparently that's what we call us. You bitch is a 897 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 1: sweating and your wet butt is being don't is running down? No, no, 898 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: no no, I ain't gonna hold you. 899 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 2: I felt it just at my boodole, like I like, 900 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 2: go back down like a little a little turned on, 901 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 2: little boy, be a little turned on away I can't yeah. 902 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,800 Speaker 1: A little okay, you have come on. 903 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 4: Your booty be going to. 904 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,399 Speaker 2: Well maybe right. 905 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: Apparently what happens is that like you get hot and 906 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: your heart speeds up, sweat, so you get out of 907 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 1: your heart speeds up. 908 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 2: This is what ed and just said. You get hot, 909 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 2: your heart speeds up. So again confirmed, you bitches be 910 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 2: sweating in the butt. 911 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm like. 912 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 2: That gotta going like a cur I felt like I 913 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 2: was arousing my bootohole like my was like, bitch, we 914 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 2: were playing tonight. That's what I thought it meant. But 915 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 2: my acbond, I don't know how my budohobies with anyway, though, 916 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 2: bitch and I got a real acy. 917 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: Okay. 918 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 2: Shout out to the ones who knows I ain't got 919 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 2: a window you did know more, that means in the suburbs, 920 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 2: horrible decision. 921 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 1: This week is all about talking to younger kids about sex, 922 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: helping these parents with that. Maybe that first conversation, pep 923 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: your penis? Okay, what is the age that is appropriate 924 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: to talk about sex, not the body sex, partnered sex. 925 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 3: Yes, I would say that there's a difference between the 926 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 3: conversation around here's what partnered sex is, versus the conversation 927 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 3: around I'm preparing you for the fact that you might 928 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 3: have partnered sex in the very near future. 929 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 1: Okay, Because it could be a conversation of like where 930 00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:58,399 Speaker 1: did I come from? 931 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be yeah, conversation around how babies are made, 932 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 3: a conversation around what certain body parts. 933 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 1: Do and what age is that you think appropriate. 934 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 3: Honestly, from some things I've read, it can be around 935 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 3: like the five years old I was gonna guess, I 936 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 3: was gonna guess fu Oh my gosh, I'm forgetting the name. 937 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 3: There's this really good guide around like how what what 938 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 3: aspects of the conversation should be happening at what age? 939 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 3: So it's like zero to two, you can start introducing 940 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 3: that certain body parts exist or you know, two to four. 941 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 3: If you notice that a child is engaging in self stimulation, 942 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,879 Speaker 3: which really does start around age two, you can encourage. 943 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 1: Self stimulation starts at the age at age. 944 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 3: Two, yeah, and often peaks around age five and then 945 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 3: goes plummets right back down a lot of the time, 946 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 3: and largely because parents discourage it and just say stop 947 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 3: touching yourself, stop doing that. 948 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,359 Speaker 1: You know, but what are you supposed to do? Because 949 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,919 Speaker 1: I would say stop? I feel like what you would 950 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:57,800 Speaker 1: say stop, Because. 951 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 2: I've seen a little kid, like a family friend, like 952 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,240 Speaker 2: one of those events whatever, like just doing it around 953 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 2: everybody and we were all like stop, right, But I 954 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 2: don't know if that puts something in his head or 955 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 2: maybe like what are you supposed to do? 956 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 1: Tell him to go in the bathroom and do it. 957 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 3: I feel like the conversation now in like sex positive 958 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 3: parenting spaces has been to like stress the value of 959 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:25,320 Speaker 3: like privacy, like that you are entitled to explore and 960 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 3: understand your own body to whatever extent you want. 961 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 4: But that's something that happens in the privacy of your 962 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 4: bedroom or wherever. I guess we're like in a real 963 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 4: sensitive era. I want both of y'all's opinions on your 964 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 4: thoughts or what you would do. So I have a 965 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 4: friend whose son is potty training right now and went 966 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,879 Speaker 4: to daycare and amidst potty training, he's taking his clothes off, 967 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 4: because you're potty training at all at daycare is taking 968 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,320 Speaker 4: his clothes off, so playing in the toilet, taking his 969 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 4: pants off, and did this in class multiple times. But 970 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 4: one of the little girls went to their mom and 971 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 4: was like, Mommy, I saw a little boys penis today. 972 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 4: Clearly the mom is irate, mind you. The whole class 973 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 4: is potty training. They're between two and four years old. 974 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 4: They're all potty training. 975 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,479 Speaker 1: And so the little boy got. 976 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 2: Suspended and the mom is completely upset because she's like yes, 977 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 2: So the mom yes, and their kids got suspected yes, 978 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 2: and the mom is completely upset because she's like, they're 979 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,879 Speaker 2: potty training, and why are you sexualizing my son? 980 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,839 Speaker 1: I don't understand why my kid would get kicked out? 981 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 1: What do you what do you want me to tell them? 982 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 2: If they're potty training, where do they do it at 983 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 2: that the little girl saw it. He's taking his clothes 984 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 2: off like he's made but aren't they. 985 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,879 Speaker 3: When I was in preschool, we had like shared, yeah, 986 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 3: you have shared boys and girls. 987 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 2: Like, so the boys and the girls right now are 988 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 2: potty training, and I guess this is his first time. 989 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 2: You're not wearing diapers, you're getting used to wearing pants 990 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,759 Speaker 2: like actual drawls. You have to wear clothes that are 991 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,400 Speaker 2: easily to come on and off, and he's just like 992 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 2: walking around three. 993 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 3: There's also a lot of child psychology around how like 994 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 3: people at that young children at that age do want 995 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 3: to be naked more often, and like that's sort of 996 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 3: a really big part of the conversation that you're supposed 997 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 3: to have when you have a child at that age, 998 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 3: which is your clothes are meant to stay on when 999 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,240 Speaker 3: you're in public, and that there are certain specific private 1000 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 3: places where they might be removed, like when an adult 1001 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 3: might be helping you take a bath, or when you're 1002 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 3: at the doctors or whatever. 1003 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 2: Well, I think that that's the thing too, right, The 1004 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 2: conversations is not being had with little boys. But of 1005 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 2: course little girls are like if anyone touches you, if 1006 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,319 Speaker 2: you see a dick, like they're not supposed to even 1007 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 2: look at dick's They're not supposed to know what a 1008 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 2: dick looks. Like, like, you know what I mean, Like, 1009 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 2: let's be very clear. I saw my mom and naked 1010 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 2: as fuck growing up. I ain't never seen my dad 1011 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 2: in naked. Yeah, yeah, but hold on just a caveat. 1012 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 6: Men. 1013 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 1: Little boys are seeing their dad naked. Oh okay, but 1014 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Women are shilling others. Yeah it's 1015 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 1: the same. Yeah, women are fuilded from penises. Yeah, brothers, 1016 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 1: that's a good point. 1017 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,960 Speaker 2: You're older brothers and so y'all are both like that's 1018 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 2: ridiculous that the little Oh that's absolutely not okay. 1019 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 1: I'm actually trying to think, like did he did? They 1020 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,240 Speaker 1: keep telling him? Non he Maybe he ran out, like you're. 1021 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 3: Telling me, because that's no teaching moment. That's a moment 1022 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 3: where the conversation is actually being brought up for you. 1023 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 3: So it's a really easy entry point for any paper. 1024 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 2: Like unless he tried to make her touch him, that 1025 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 2: that's a whole different thing, and that did not happen. 1026 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 2: He was just like, use the bathroom and just walked 1027 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 2: out the bathroom with no pants on. But how also, 1028 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,839 Speaker 2: when you suspend a little kid, do you, then it's 1029 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,879 Speaker 2: hard to course correct because their brains are. 1030 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,880 Speaker 1: Like this right, And that's the thing. They don't know 1031 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 1: that what they're doing is wrong because they don't see 1032 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 1: it as wrong. 1033 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,760 Speaker 4: And what is punishing that kid really doing for anybody? 1034 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 2: Like, I mean, I think though that that's the other 1035 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 2: thing with the conversations between adults and children is the 1036 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 2: fact that we go in sexual life damn near everything everything. 1037 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 2: Like I was sexualized really early because I had hypso thighs. 1038 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,759 Speaker 2: The adults just thought a bit was best this book 1039 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 2: out here hopping on and off Dix, and I'm was like, 1040 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 2: I don't even like tongue. Why are you putting that 1041 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 2: on this hoe or that I'm best because of my 1042 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 2: body or how. 1043 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 1: Things fit me? When baby, I don't even want a 1044 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 1: nigga's tongue in my mouth. Let me ask you. So, okay, 1045 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm ready, I'm five, mommy, where do babies come from? 1046 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,399 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, this is see I don't have five 1047 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,000 Speaker 3: year olds, so this is also going to be a 1048 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 3: little tricky for me. But I would say to approach 1049 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 3: the conversation just being honest about the fact. No, do 1050 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 3: it in your voice, do it okay, okay, okay, okay. 1051 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 3: When people are older, they engage in something called sex. 1052 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,719 Speaker 3: That is when a penis goes in a vagina and 1053 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 3: the result is a baby, and the baby grows inside 1054 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 3: the mommy's stomach and then comes out of the vagina. See, 1055 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 3: I feel like I just struggled through. 1056 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 4: I'm horrible. 1057 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 1: But I'm thirteen and I have a boyfriend, and I really, 1058 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:15,400 Speaker 1: I really I'm I'm thirteen. 1059 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 2: I have a boyfriend I really like, and we saw 1060 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,880 Speaker 2: this movie and he wants to he wants to try it, 1061 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 2: he wants to have sex with me. 1062 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 1: What is the conversation? 1063 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:24,880 Speaker 2: Mmmm? 1064 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 4: Okay, I think because. 1065 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 2: Thirteen bitches is starting to be inquisitive and fuck or 1066 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 2: their boyfriends are fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, So how do you 1067 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,880 Speaker 2: how do you talk to me as a thirteen year 1068 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 2: old saying I think I want to, you know, try 1069 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 2: something with my boyfriend. 1070 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,400 Speaker 3: If it's my child, I feel like there's like a 1071 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 3: little bit more room to sort of instill my own 1072 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,120 Speaker 3: morals and just life experiences and to say, I would 1073 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 3: not recommend that this is something that you engage in 1074 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,680 Speaker 3: at this age, but if this is something that you're 1075 00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 3: going to engage in or even in the future, than 1076 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 3: your future whatever it might be, these are the things 1077 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,720 Speaker 3: you need to consider. You need to consider what barrier 1078 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 3: methods you want to use. You need to consider what 1079 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,360 Speaker 3: consent looks like, Yeah, you need to consider. 1080 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna tell him yes, and he's buying the condoms. 1081 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 3: Again, Personally, if you're my child, I would encourage you 1082 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 3: to hold off and think about it, because there are 1083 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:28,720 Speaker 3: a lot of things both emotional and like physical safety wise, 1084 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 3: that come along with engaging in sex, like the possibility 1085 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 3: of pregnancy, but also yeah, like the emotions that can 1086 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:37,879 Speaker 3: come and be a play. 1087 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 1: Can you talk more about that for parents with teenage kids, 1088 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 1: like when they're telling their kids about emotions that at 1089 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,640 Speaker 1: thirteen year old can understand, what would you be saying? 1090 00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:51,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, sex I think means so such vastly different things 1091 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,440 Speaker 3: to different people, I think, even at an early age. 1092 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,040 Speaker 3: But it's good to understand like the societal norms that 1093 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,719 Speaker 3: we have in place now, which are that there is 1094 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 3: a lot of attachment correlated with sex, and so thinking 1095 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,240 Speaker 3: about what like the expectations might be after you engage 1096 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 3: in sex for the first time, Like does this person 1097 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,040 Speaker 3: think that that means that you're gonna be in a relationship? 1098 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:17,399 Speaker 4: Is that something that you want? 1099 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 3: Do you feel comfortable talking to this person about yeah, 1100 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 3: feeling safe in that moment or feeling unsafe in that moment. 1101 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 3: Feeling comfortable in that moment or uncomfortable in that moment. 1102 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,800 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, they're just like a lot of factors 1103 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:31,359 Speaker 3: at play. 1104 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,600 Speaker 1: There is because once we have sex one time, Mommy, 1105 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,120 Speaker 1: we're probably gonna do it again. Yeah, you know what 1106 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,120 Speaker 1: I mean. But that's what I'm saying. 1107 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 2: Like, so those are conversations I wish I had with 1108 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,760 Speaker 2: like I wish I had with anybody. There was nobody 1109 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 2: to have those conversations with except for my homegirls and 1110 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,799 Speaker 2: a lot of my homegirls in my teenage years. They 1111 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,920 Speaker 2: had all had sex like before I did, so I 1112 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 2: felt like I could rely on them. But goddamn is 1113 00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:58,840 Speaker 2: the blind leading the goddamn blinde? 1114 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,400 Speaker 3: You know? I mean that's yeah, That's kind of the 1115 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 3: idea behind our program is we wanted to feel a 1116 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,120 Speaker 3: bit less like the blind lading the blind. 1117 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 4: But I definitely think, gosh, there's something I was gonna say. 1118 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 4: I just blinked. 1119 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,359 Speaker 1: Wait, I can give you something else that I'm curious about. 1120 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:20,320 Speaker 1: So when uh, okay, we're at five, right, let's just 1121 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 1: say from what you've heard. I want to maybe more 1122 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,200 Speaker 1: so talk about because I just brought up my friends kids. 1123 00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,840 Speaker 1: What is it seeming like and where is it seeming 1124 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,400 Speaker 1: like children are learning about sex most and what adults 1125 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,360 Speaker 1: in their life are they coming to to talk about it. 1126 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:39,920 Speaker 3: I would say that it seems like a lot of 1127 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 3: the conversations about sex are from peer to peer interactions 1128 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,840 Speaker 3: and through social media. I think even just on our TikTok, 1129 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 3: we definitely ended up on a side of TikTok that 1130 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,840 Speaker 3: had a lot of younger people just posting things, and 1131 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,960 Speaker 3: it seemed to be a lot of conversations about really 1132 00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 3: like slutshavy conversations is why I noticed a And also 1133 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,880 Speaker 3: we heard a lot of reports of from our students, 1134 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 3: and I definitely remember feeling like that to an extent 1135 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,400 Speaker 3: when I was in high school. Yeah, that it's just 1136 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,279 Speaker 3: like a fine line to walk. You're like either a 1137 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,959 Speaker 3: prude or you're a hoe, and it's it's kind of wow. 1138 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,840 Speaker 1: What about when it comes to maybe they're watching movies 1139 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,880 Speaker 1: or television and talking about threesomes? Have you had kids 1140 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:23,919 Speaker 1: ask you about threesimes in group sex? 1141 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,080 Speaker 4: We actually haven't had kids ask us explicitly about three simes. 1142 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 4: In group sex. I know, I talked a little bit 1143 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 4: about like our conversation about BDSM and kink, and I 1144 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:38,400 Speaker 4: think even regardless of if BDSM and kink are necessarily 1145 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,600 Speaker 4: things that people would approach as like conversations they want 1146 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 4: to have with kids, there are like a lot of 1147 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,839 Speaker 4: universally good things you can learn from those communities as 1148 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:52,240 Speaker 4: far as like the level of just safety and consent 1149 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,279 Speaker 4: required in a scene, what aftercare is like a lot 1150 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 4: of those things that are slowly making their way to 1151 00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,400 Speaker 4: the mainstream, even thinking through like the way that like 1152 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,440 Speaker 4: young people choking one another during sex has become more 1153 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:08,960 Speaker 4: and more mainstream. Yeah, I think about it ephor you, Yeah, 1154 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,720 Speaker 4: and that can be unsafe for a number of reasons. 1155 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,279 Speaker 4: I mean, especially especially the. 1156 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 2: Fact that a lot of teenagers are as well experimenting 1157 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 2: with drugs and alcohol and they don't know what their level, 1158 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,880 Speaker 2: what their tolerance levels are, and then they're still engaging 1159 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 2: in sex or you know. 1160 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 3: Also, I feel like if the approach to learning about 1161 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,080 Speaker 3: sex is through mainstream porn, and there's a lot of 1162 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,320 Speaker 3: violence that can take place in mainstream porn or just 1163 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 3: aggression generally, that that can be somewhat scary within itself. 1164 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,279 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's what you thinks. Think they got a 1165 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 1: jet rabbit a bit all right? Not how to do 1166 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 1: that's now adult advice. Let's get onto the whole mail 1167 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 1: home mail. Hi the way one moment, Oh, y'all, motherfucker 1168 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 1: sent us in some homemail. It's a little it's a 1169 00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,480 Speaker 1: little scarce somebody are in the emails horrible decisions that 1170 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 1: Gmail you goddamn. 1171 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:06,000 Speaker 2: Home mails or whole confessions, any questions that you have 1172 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:10,160 Speaker 2: regarding sex, dating relationships on over to horrible decisions at 1173 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:11,719 Speaker 2: gmail dot com. 1174 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,359 Speaker 1: Holemail in the subject line really helps us de weed 1175 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,560 Speaker 1: it out. And also if you send it in the DMS, 1176 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:21,120 Speaker 1: it gets lost. Okay, So hi, guys, love your show. 1177 00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,359 Speaker 1: It took me a while to write this. About two 1178 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,160 Speaker 1: years ago, I went out drinking alone because I was 1179 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,359 Speaker 1: sad about a guy I was seeing. It came out. 1180 00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:30,400 Speaker 1: He came out and told me that he got a 1181 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,000 Speaker 1: girl pregnant. So while I was there at the bar, 1182 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,399 Speaker 1: I met this guy let's call him A. We start 1183 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,520 Speaker 1: talking and drinking and I ended up going home with him. 1184 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 1: I was so drunk that I ended up running out 1185 00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,600 Speaker 1: of A's house because I was so embarrassed from throwing 1186 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,120 Speaker 1: up in his bathroom. Fast forward, we all have it. 1187 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,480 Speaker 1: Fast forward. I went to see him again sober. Let's 1188 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,640 Speaker 1: just say that dick was massive. So in my mind, 1189 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, I hope it's good, and I was wrong. 1190 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,080 Speaker 1: We started with me on top, had a good rhythm, 1191 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 1: but he kept messing me up by trying to fuck back. 1192 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,360 Speaker 1: He wanted to turn me over. He started pulling my 1193 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,400 Speaker 1: hair extremely hard, and when I looked up at him, 1194 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,400 Speaker 1: he was flicking his fingers over his nipples and it 1195 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,640 Speaker 1: creeped me out. So then he goes in and throwts 1196 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,000 Speaker 1: fucking me really rough and said he was getting me 1197 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,200 Speaker 1: back for talking to him crazy. He was throwing me everywhere, 1198 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 1: pulling my hair harder than before, and at this point 1199 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 1: the sex started to hurt. I eventually stopped and told 1200 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,000 Speaker 1: him I was ready to go. The dick was still hard, 1201 00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,200 Speaker 1: like a missile. He asked me to suck it, but 1202 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,080 Speaker 1: at that point I was so turned off and ready 1203 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,840 Speaker 1: to go, I just said no. While he was taking 1204 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:29,800 Speaker 1: me home, he kept saying, yeah, you was talking to 1205 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 1: me crazy all week. I had to show you. And 1206 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 1: when I got home, I thought this nigga just beat 1207 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,400 Speaker 1: me up during sex, and the next day I told 1208 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,400 Speaker 1: him about himself and I told him rubbing his own 1209 00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:40,480 Speaker 1: nipples as gay as shit. 1210 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 4: You were weird for that. 1211 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,960 Speaker 1: I ran into him again at the neighborhood gas station. 1212 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 1: He was trying to feel me up. I told him 1213 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 1: to get away from me or I'm gonna cause the scene. 1214 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,800 Speaker 1: Never talk to him again. Sadly, About a month or 1215 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,680 Speaker 1: so later, he got killed outside the bar. I met 1216 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:54,080 Speaker 1: a match. 1217 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:58,560 Speaker 2: He's, oh my god, why I was not ready for deending. 1218 00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,840 Speaker 2: That is not the last, like I'm just gonna Was 1219 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,960 Speaker 2: there a question there, nigga? I mean, I would say 1220 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:11,760 Speaker 2: that is the end of the let There is a thing. 1221 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,200 Speaker 2: There is a way to dissect this, lady. 1222 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 1: I want I want to dissect it a little. 1223 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:17,920 Speaker 2: I want to dissect a little bit. There's a lot 1224 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,479 Speaker 2: of parts. I want to start with the nipple play. 1225 00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,360 Speaker 2: We gotta we got nipple. Get that in the clip 1226 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:24,080 Speaker 2: next and peace. 1227 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:25,400 Speaker 1: Nipple play for. 1228 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 2: A lot of men is a thing, and I hate 1229 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,600 Speaker 2: that that's being I told him he is gay, especially 1230 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 2: a woman. For you to throw it in their face 1231 00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,440 Speaker 2: that it's gay as ship, it's not. He was terrible 1232 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,800 Speaker 2: during sex, but that doesn't mean you gotta call him gay. 1233 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:40,760 Speaker 2: He's an asshole. 1234 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,160 Speaker 4: Like biological there are just nerves. 1235 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:45,920 Speaker 1: Literally, and they feel good. 1236 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:47,600 Speaker 2: I love a man and tell me they like a 1237 00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,200 Speaker 2: little nipple play, I'll be up on that thing, like, well, 1238 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,040 Speaker 2: we know, if you like butt, honey, shut a nipple 1239 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:56,600 Speaker 2: won't stop. I have a few thoughts actually, so one, 1240 00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 2: by the way, this is not to blame you, but 1241 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 2: when he was saying. 1242 00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,520 Speaker 1: That, like he was in his own role play. Ye, 1243 00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,760 Speaker 1: And you can tell from reading this like he was 1244 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,040 Speaker 1: playing a game that you didn't like or that you 1245 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:10,600 Speaker 1: didn't know you were playing. I think you did a 1246 00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:11,720 Speaker 1: good job by stopping him. 1247 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so shout out to you for that, because a 1248 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,840 Speaker 2: lot of people might have finished and hated themselves after. 1249 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:20,520 Speaker 1: But for people listening, I played this game, so have 1250 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,080 Speaker 1: I girl. I was literally a last night talking to 1251 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 1: a nigga too long and I was getting fucked Like, bitch, 1252 00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:29,120 Speaker 1: was wrong with you? I don't know, but not everybody 1253 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,280 Speaker 1: likes that first time sex. I don't really like shit 1254 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,200 Speaker 1: like that. I think that, uh, what happened to you. 1255 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if you necessarily got bet up during sex. 1256 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:42,720 Speaker 1: I think that aggressiveness is truthfully, what men think women like. 1257 00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,560 Speaker 1: They think women like this dominance shit. They don't understand 1258 00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,439 Speaker 1: that we need to lead you on to that, ask 1259 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,360 Speaker 1: for it, et cetera. And I'm really sorry that the 1260 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,600 Speaker 1: situation happened to you. And frankly, maybe that's why. 1261 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,640 Speaker 3: Oh god, it'sn't interesting, because I feel like my first 1262 00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,240 Speaker 3: thought was that it seemed like this guy was really 1263 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,040 Speaker 3: in his own world, a little bright and like not 1264 01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 3: considering what would make the other person comfortable or uncomfortable. 1265 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,760 Speaker 1: Men. Dude, like, to me, when you said did you 1266 01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 1: get beat up during sex? To me, that's not really assault. 1267 01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,800 Speaker 1: And he stopped when you wanted to stop. That to 1268 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,760 Speaker 1: me is a big I mean, I think also the 1269 01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:20,320 Speaker 1: fact that. 1270 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,160 Speaker 2: She alluded that she was talking shit that whole week 1271 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:26,960 Speaker 2: and he literally responded, oh, you was talking shit and 1272 01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,560 Speaker 2: I told you I was gonna show you. Like to me, 1273 01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:33,720 Speaker 2: maybe you were being you know, maybe he thought you 1274 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:35,680 Speaker 2: were a part of the game, like maybe you were 1275 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,400 Speaker 2: talking shit or nagging him on and he was like, 1276 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 2: oh yeah, bitch, I'm gonna show you when. 1277 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,240 Speaker 3: We you know what I mean, And especially visibility where 1278 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,200 Speaker 3: he thought he was being playful. But then there's also 1279 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,640 Speaker 3: that possibility where he was just saying whatever was going 1280 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,400 Speaker 3: to turn him on in that moment and just did 1281 01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:49,160 Speaker 3: not care about that. 1282 01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:50,840 Speaker 2: I think the fact make you feel I think the 1283 01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,400 Speaker 2: fact that the dick was also massive. I don't think 1284 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,080 Speaker 2: niggas would big dicks all the time. Know that a 1285 01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 2: you have to work extra hard to make sure we're 1286 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:04,560 Speaker 2: aroused and wet because otherwise it's fucking painful, especially like 1287 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,320 Speaker 2: if a woman just I mean, I know, I mean, 1288 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,000 Speaker 2: damn near are all of my friends including me now 1289 01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:13,680 Speaker 2: I have fucking fibroids, And she said that her fibroids 1290 01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,320 Speaker 2: and where they're sitting is what causes her to have 1291 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,720 Speaker 2: painful sex. So the fact that there's all these things 1292 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,360 Speaker 2: that could be happening in our vaginas if you just 1293 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,840 Speaker 2: go in there pounding and it's big, and you didn't 1294 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,640 Speaker 2: fucking arouse me, because men love to just go straight 1295 01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,240 Speaker 2: into it, it becomes painful and not enjoyable at all. 1296 01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:30,480 Speaker 4: Cervical simulation. 1297 01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,040 Speaker 3: I feel like for people who do find it enjoyable, 1298 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 3: at least from what I've heard from people who I 1299 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,760 Speaker 3: know or people who just DM me or whatever, like 1300 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 3: at least the first time or first couple of times, 1301 01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:40,720 Speaker 3: it's really not. 1302 01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:42,640 Speaker 1: That Oh I hate the first time with a big dick. 1303 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,360 Speaker 1: The first round is not fucking fun. 1304 01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,960 Speaker 2: I like that you discussed it as cervical sip simulation, 1305 01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:52,200 Speaker 2: because I've definitely talked about like, obviously I know what 1306 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:52,760 Speaker 2: cervix is. 1307 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:54,800 Speaker 1: When I was talking about Homegirls Bush, I'll be like, bitch, 1308 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:56,320 Speaker 1: I don't really like when they hit that wall too hard, 1309 01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 1: but it's literally your cervix. She's also so what you 1310 01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,640 Speaker 1: just mentioned about friends having fibraides. I have a friend 1311 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:08,840 Speaker 1: with stage four endo that demetriosis. When she has sex, 1312 01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,080 Speaker 1: if the penetration is too hard, she literally throws up 1313 01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,760 Speaker 1: Jesus and she's like, bro, I cannot wait to get 1314 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,840 Speaker 1: over this phase of my life. And it is I'd 1315 01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:22,840 Speaker 1: end up gay. It is a real thing of doing 1316 01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:27,560 Speaker 1: your dick in a vagina, not being open enough, looped 1317 01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:31,320 Speaker 1: up enough, engorged, Like you have got to notice those 1318 01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:34,560 Speaker 1: signs like this is not even I think big dick exclusive, 1319 01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:36,240 Speaker 1: Like I think you can have a medium or a 1320 01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:40,439 Speaker 1: small dick, and I've definitely a small dick. Yeah, maybe 1321 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:41,000 Speaker 1: not small, but I. 1322 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,320 Speaker 3: Think about that all the time because I think, I mean, 1323 01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,040 Speaker 3: not even to just go back to what we were 1324 01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:49,200 Speaker 3: talking about earlier. But in thinking about like how I 1325 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,440 Speaker 3: grew up and feeling like something was wrong with me 1326 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,680 Speaker 3: from not orgasmic, from penetrative sex. I think about people 1327 01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:58,040 Speaker 3: who have daspruna or have vagins. Miss what's ds brunia? 1328 01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,280 Speaker 3: Disprunia is just like all the term for painful sex. 1329 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:05,200 Speaker 3: So imagine as mister, it could be have you no 1330 01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:10,160 Speaker 3: never evolving. I don't know sperunia. Yeah, this sperunia, do 1331 01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,720 Speaker 3: what I can never sperna. 1332 01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:14,280 Speaker 1: Okay, that sounds like. 1333 01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,200 Speaker 4: This parunia where some people will say deep thisspruna, which 1334 01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:19,600 Speaker 4: I think is. 1335 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,720 Speaker 1: Just I like deep. I like deep deep this parnia. 1336 01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:24,000 Speaker 1: You know what's crazy? 1337 01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:27,040 Speaker 2: Though, I'm one of those where pain is pleasure sometimes, 1338 01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,520 Speaker 2: Like there's some dicks where I just be like, God, damn, 1339 01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:33,280 Speaker 2: I want this nigga like might different that's getting stretched out? No, no, no, 1340 01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,480 Speaker 2: no no, I like I like pain, not because I'm 1341 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,800 Speaker 2: gonna take a big dick. And then I like psychologically 1342 01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,440 Speaker 2: knowing I'm taking this big dick now literally be like 1343 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:44,280 Speaker 2: nobody else takes this dick like this. 1344 01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:48,040 Speaker 1: Huh, Like that's that's a role playing my own Hey man, 1345 01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,160 Speaker 1: you go, I want everyone to see this just now 1346 01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:54,360 Speaker 1: you said she'd be in pain just to know anybody else, Hey, 1347 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,640 Speaker 1: nobody else dick like this? Hunh that's like artist. 1348 01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,560 Speaker 6: Oh, I love Its a lot of sense to me. 1349 01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,000 Speaker 6: That like sought process. I feel like I love it, 1350 01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:06,560 Speaker 6: and I'll be like, I'm gonna take it because I know, 1351 01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,200 Speaker 6: bitch this thing. I know bitches ain't taking the ship, 1352 01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,280 Speaker 6: but I'm gonna take this ship, you know what I mean? 1353 01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:11,680 Speaker 3: That be me. 1354 01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:16,920 Speaker 1: The biggest dick I ever had was my first real boyfriend, 1355 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,920 Speaker 1: the Latino dude I always talk about from Orlando, and 1356 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,000 Speaker 1: I remember thinking one day because he had a brother 1357 01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,800 Speaker 1: and the brother's gay, and we had this moment where 1358 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,080 Speaker 1: me and the brother's husband were like, I was like, yo, 1359 01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,000 Speaker 1: he got a big dig too, and we started gagging 1360 01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:38,120 Speaker 1: like they don't brothers don't be having they're gagging. The 1361 01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:42,320 Speaker 1: brothers din't even bought them anymore, Like we'reler laughing, right Jesus. 1362 01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,000 Speaker 1: And so I realized because the brother was like maybe 1363 01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:48,080 Speaker 1: eight years younger. So I'm asking a man at the time, like, 1364 01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:53,040 Speaker 1: how big was your dick in high school? M WHOA, 1365 01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:54,320 Speaker 1: that's the question. 1366 01:04:54,920 --> 01:05:01,040 Speaker 2: Wait, do y'all dicks grow bigger after y'all graduate high school. Really, Oh, 1367 01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:02,920 Speaker 2: there's one nigga I'm scared. 1368 01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,080 Speaker 4: Said you grow? 1369 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,400 Speaker 1: No what really? 1370 01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:09,439 Speaker 4: But okay, okay, okay. 1371 01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:10,720 Speaker 1: David Ede said they. 1372 01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,400 Speaker 2: If you fu him in high school. There's one nigga 1373 01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:16,800 Speaker 2: I used to call patty cake boy. 1374 01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:18,320 Speaker 1: Oh boy. And I don't want to see that dick. 1375 01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:19,920 Speaker 1: That dick was you. 1376 01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,200 Speaker 2: We was fucking when I was in high school. That 1377 01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:25,040 Speaker 2: niggas dick was messed. I wouldn't even want to see 1378 01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:25,800 Speaker 2: it now as an adult. 1379 01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,360 Speaker 1: Here grow man, now, I wouldn't even want to see 1380 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:29,600 Speaker 1: that dick. That dick was big. 1381 01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,080 Speaker 4: Your clitorist keeps growing as you age, too. 1382 01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,120 Speaker 1: That's true. We pauls. 1383 01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:37,960 Speaker 2: I was like, I might have to do a little research. 1384 01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:40,720 Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna have to look back at my 1385 01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:41,680 Speaker 2: videos from twenty. 1386 01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:43,560 Speaker 5: On my. 1387 01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:48,640 Speaker 1: On a raiser of my pussy, I was like, pussy 1388 01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,200 Speaker 1: look a little different now. It's still in any pussy, 1389 01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:55,440 Speaker 1: but the pussy shatter. It's weird because it's been getting 1390 01:05:56,640 --> 01:06:04,520 Speaker 1: it's been getting work. Beget work, girl, I don't know 1391 01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:05,440 Speaker 1: wat shit real? 1392 01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,920 Speaker 2: Like, no, Lie, it really like it's fatter and like 1393 01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,440 Speaker 2: I look at like the shape of my voina and 1394 01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,360 Speaker 2: it went from like skinny, little bitty pussy like a 1395 01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:15,000 Speaker 2: little something. 1396 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,120 Speaker 1: It's the same way balls go from uphill to down. 1397 01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:22,520 Speaker 1: Now it's just this week, cud now too, because anything. 1398 01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,640 Speaker 2: Like I got just Sarah, let everyone know where they 1399 01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,720 Speaker 2: could follow you, support you, and where they could possibly 1400 01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,280 Speaker 2: have their children sign up for your youth program. 1401 01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:35,480 Speaker 3: Okay, we are www dot the Youth Sexpert Program dot org. 1402 01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:38,240 Speaker 3: We are at the Youth Sexpert Program with a three 1403 01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:42,160 Speaker 3: in the word sex on Instagram and TikTok. We're on 1404 01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:47,040 Speaker 3: LinkedIn Facebook. My personal Instagram is your ex girlfriend Tara. 1405 01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:48,880 Speaker 3: But yeah, that's about it. 1406 01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:52,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, signing kids up is it free? 1407 01:06:53,320 --> 01:07:00,040 Speaker 1: It is one hundred percent free, girl, nonprofits grandsis But 1408 01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:01,480 Speaker 1: I'm just like. 1409 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:03,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, no, it's hundred percent free. We've been able 1410 01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,840 Speaker 3: to give students some community service hours in the past 1411 01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:08,960 Speaker 3: that we're totally down to sign off on, like any 1412 01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,480 Speaker 3: internship papers or something you need to sign for school. 1413 01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, we're also totally down to talk to parents 1414 01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,520 Speaker 3: and try to like make our program more approachable in 1415 01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:21,680 Speaker 3: any way we can. We will definitely to repost some stuff. Cool. Yeah, 1416 01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:24,640 Speaker 3: I know we're I don't know when this is coming up, 1417 01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:27,040 Speaker 3: but we're hosting like a parent education and digital event 1418 01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:33,600 Speaker 3: on the twenty first June, okay, but it'll be posted 1419 01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,200 Speaker 3: on our website so parents can definitely come check that out. 1420 01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,520 Speaker 3: We also have our parently aaison who's totally down and 1421 01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,960 Speaker 3: willing to talk to parents about any concerns. 1422 01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,200 Speaker 1: And this is a year long program, so it is 1423 01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,800 Speaker 1: as long so okay. 1424 01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,840 Speaker 3: Our cohorts happen in the fall semester okay, and right 1425 01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:54,360 Speaker 3: before Christmas break and then we have an ext cohort. 1426 01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,280 Speaker 2: So as of right now, over the summertime, the parents 1427 01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:00,000 Speaker 2: can start to look up the program and what's available. 1428 01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:01,760 Speaker 1: Yeah for a sign up in the fon. 1429 01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:03,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, our student oplications are open now and we sent 1430 01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:07,280 Speaker 3: our parent outreach around August perfect well. 1431 01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:10,200 Speaker 1: Thank you Tarah so much for doing this. 1432 01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:16,519 Speaker 5: Was fun, even though I usually say Tara's particular what 1433 01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,800 Speaker 5: I say, I'm think and Tara Reid all right, talk 1434 01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:21,880 Speaker 5: what twer bank, terror bank? 1435 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:27,120 Speaker 1: It's someone I'll go check us out on Patreon and 1436 01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,560 Speaker 1: it's still the kids. Sorry, even though we here for 1437 01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:31,160 Speaker 1: the kid I can't but. 1438 01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,320 Speaker 2: Patreon dot com backslash horrible decisions for all the boaters 1439 01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,840 Speaker 2: cuts it and this has been yet another episode of 1440 01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:51,200 Speaker 2: horrible decisions. Behind the paywall is such a nice place 1441 01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:54,679 Speaker 2: to talk about yourself because o YouTube, they'd be like again, 1442 01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,599 Speaker 2: y'all running a long time, y'all can something different? 1443 01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,320 Speaker 1: The bank that's my that's what the I see. 1444 01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:01,280 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think, Well, when's the last time I cried? 1445 01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,400 Speaker 2: The last time I cried was on Patreon when I 1446 01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:07,360 Speaker 2: was going through it. I got damn bullshit with da bitch. 1447 01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:08,639 Speaker 2: I can talk about something emo. 1448 01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:12,080 Speaker 1: I know you could be a chemo. So BT weekend came, 1449 01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:16,240 Speaker 1: my boyfriend came to LA and I don't really talk 1450 01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,120 Speaker 1: about my dad too much because for me, I don't 1451 01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:19,800 Speaker 1: like to really talk about his health and you know, 1452 01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:24,160 Speaker 1: he's getting older. But I was so emotional because he 1453 01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,640 Speaker 1: met my dad, and my dad was just having a 1454 01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:28,280 Speaker 1: hard day. You know, older people like they got a 1455 01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,479 Speaker 1: good day, they got a bad day. So he just 1456 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:33,120 Speaker 1: made a little care and stuff like that. But it 1457 01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:35,360 Speaker 1: was a very vulnerable thing for me to meet my 1458 01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:37,599 Speaker 1: dad because no one had met my dad since old 1459 01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:40,240 Speaker 1: day and at that point my dad wasn't in a wheelchair, 1460 01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:44,280 Speaker 1: so this was like a new thing and we hadn't 1461 01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:46,120 Speaker 1: really talked about it much. My mom was there. 1462 01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,120 Speaker 2: We all just played games together. It was nice, like 1463 01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:49,519 Speaker 2: we were enjoying each other's company. 1464 01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:51,559 Speaker 1: We hadn't really talked about it. I just told him 1465 01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:53,280 Speaker 1: how much it meant to me. Last night we were 1466 01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:59,200 Speaker 1: on a double date. He said, we talked to a 1467 01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,080 Speaker 1: couple that just got We just went to their wedding. 1468 01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:03,160 Speaker 1: It was Gila. Y'all always hear me talk about the 1469 01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:06,240 Speaker 1: other Gila. So basically we talked about each other's parents 1470 01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:07,519 Speaker 1: and he was like, yeah, I just got to meet 1471 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,720 Speaker 1: her dad, and it was so nice to see how 1472 01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:12,599 Speaker 1: that side of her is. Like I see her mom 1473 01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:14,080 Speaker 1: and her but I was glad to see her dad, 1474 01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:15,400 Speaker 1: Like I see the more serious side. 1475 01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:18,800 Speaker 2: I see this protector energy that she has. I'm like, 1476 01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,280 Speaker 2: my dad didn't even really talk, so how did you 1477 01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:23,360 Speaker 2: see all that? Like all we did is play a game. 1478 01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,360 Speaker 2: He didn't really say much to you. He was like, 1479 01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:27,800 Speaker 2: because I could see it the way you and. 1480 01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,000 Speaker 1: Your mom would move around. He would want to look 1481 01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,280 Speaker 1: watch where you're going, to make sure you're good. Even 1482 01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,800 Speaker 1: if you can't open the door. It's always there, Like 1483 01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:38,280 Speaker 1: his masculinity is always there. And I was like, damn, bro, 1484 01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:43,400 Speaker 1: Like I don't know if it's just dating someone that's 1485 01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:49,000 Speaker 1: a little more empathetic or what. But like, I never 1486 01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:53,839 Speaker 1: had conversations like this outside of scissors about my parents 1487 01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,840 Speaker 1: or how things make me feel. Like all day was 1488 01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:58,080 Speaker 1: very surface level. 1489 01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,599 Speaker 2: And I it's a lot of men are, and especially 1490 01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,200 Speaker 2: black man. It just doesn't hit you until it hits 1491 01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:06,400 Speaker 2: you when you have something different. And like, I'm watching 1492 01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:07,920 Speaker 2: him and I don't want to start crying and. 1493 01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:09,800 Speaker 1: At this table we're having like this fun dinner, but 1494 01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:11,920 Speaker 1: I was like he was thinking all that, and he said, 1495 01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:13,439 Speaker 1: then I wondered. There were a few moments where I 1496 01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,640 Speaker 1: was like thinking of how he looked at me and 1497 01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:17,680 Speaker 1: he's not even saying this to me. He's saying this 1498 01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:18,320 Speaker 1: to Gils has me. 1499 01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:21,800 Speaker 2: He's like I can watch him look at me with 1500 01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:24,519 Speaker 2: his daughter and like he used to be this protector 1501 01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:26,040 Speaker 2: and I'm like the new one now for her. 1502 01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:29,280 Speaker 1: And it's like this weird moment I'm having and I'm like, 1503 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,880 Speaker 1: what because he told me none of this and he's 1504 01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:34,840 Speaker 1: really thinking about it, and he's like and it made 1505 01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:38,680 Speaker 1: me wonder how he feels like you should be, you know, 1506 01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,800 Speaker 1: going and drilling your daughter's new man and figuring all 1507 01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:43,560 Speaker 1: this shit and he's like, but maybe he can't do 1508 01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,320 Speaker 1: that because he's in a wheelchair, but because he can't 1509 01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,639 Speaker 1: move around on his own, like maybe he's feeling a way. 1510 01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:51,200 Speaker 1: And I was like, bro, it was just getting me 1511 01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,720 Speaker 1: really emotional. And we were on the car home. I 1512 01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:57,200 Speaker 1: was like, oh, like you're gonna be my husband, Like oh, 1513 01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:01,720 Speaker 1: that's like I understand now, Like this is why this 1514 01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:05,559 Speaker 1: is happening. This weekend we went to a Nigerian wedding 1515 01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,120 Speaker 1: and I got to be around his parents again. And 1516 01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:12,160 Speaker 1: when I walked in, not joking, I was the only 1517 01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:17,679 Speaker 1: light skinned person it was. I was like, I felt 1518 01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:23,519 Speaker 1: like a white woman nigga. I wanted there. I was like, 1519 01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:25,240 Speaker 1: and mind you, I'm asking you sure we all got 1520 01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:27,280 Speaker 1: wearing nothing African. He's just not an ante table nigga. 1521 01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,280 Speaker 2: He's like, no, baby, I'm wearing my fucking tabby booths, 1522 01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,960 Speaker 2: Like do your thing, like we dressed a lot. 1523 01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:34,080 Speaker 1: We're sitting at his whole table. 1524 01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:34,439 Speaker 3: His dad. 1525 01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:37,280 Speaker 1: Everybody got African council. This is his dad. 1526 01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:39,560 Speaker 2: He got up there, he's like making a speech and 1527 01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:41,719 Speaker 2: I'm sitting there like, oh my god. 1528 01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:45,040 Speaker 1: They think I'm Puerto Rican and they think that I'm 1529 01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:47,400 Speaker 1: the woman that made you wear a fucking regular suit. 1530 01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:50,160 Speaker 1: Like that's all I could think is that I'm this influence, 1531 01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,040 Speaker 1: you know. And then I'm also feeling this pressure because 1532 01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,200 Speaker 1: he's been around my mom a lot, right because we're 1533 01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:56,800 Speaker 1: going to LA for a week at a time, and 1534 01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,439 Speaker 1: you know, my mom's right there, and I'm just like, 1535 01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,040 Speaker 1: am I not doing enough? Like how do I make 1536 01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,960 Speaker 1: sure I'm respecting the elders? Like that's such a process 1537 01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:08,040 Speaker 1: with Africans, Like, yeah, what do I do to let 1538 01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:09,760 Speaker 1: them know like how much I care about their son? 1539 01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to overdo it either with your hands, right, 1540 01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,639 Speaker 1: we didn't eat too for it, Okay, okay, but making 1541 01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:18,920 Speaker 1: the wedding was Jamaican and African. Okay, so I was 1542 01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,760 Speaker 1: on the corsa all right. But anyway, Yeah, it's really 1543 01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:25,720 Speaker 1: tough because now I'm in this phase of my life 1544 01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:27,920 Speaker 1: where I'm like, oh, like I really want to make sure. 1545 01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:30,400 Speaker 1: I never thought about being this good for someone's month 1546 01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:31,759 Speaker 1: before with their parents. 1547 01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:32,800 Speaker 2: But what hit me? 1548 01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:37,439 Speaker 1: I'm at this wedding where he introduced me to fifteen uncles, 1549 01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:40,200 Speaker 1: ten cousins, you know Africans. 1550 01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:43,360 Speaker 2: Family for family's cousin so you just called a segment 1551 01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:45,600 Speaker 2: from our bonus content. 1552 01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:49,120 Speaker 1: Oprah on Patreon. 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