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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're at

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Speaker 1: Mortgage Matchup Arena watching UCLA and Corey Close cut down

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Speaker 1: the nets after winning the program's first national championship in

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Speaker 1: the NCAA era.

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Speaker 2: You always remember your first.

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Speaker 1: I'm recording this just minutes after the final buzzer and

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Speaker 1: trophy presentation, and soon I'll be heading back from the

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Speaker 1: desert with a scratchy throat, tons of mems, and a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of women's basketball team. We've got a lot

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Speaker 1: to say about the national championship game, that incredible Bruins

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Speaker 1: blowout win, and Corey Close making us ask the question

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Speaker 1: is there also a no crying in the press box rule?

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Speaker 1: Plus all the weekend's festivities and parties all in tomorrow's show.

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Speaker 1: But for today's show, Monday, April sixth, my thoughts on

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Speaker 1: the Gino Oriema drama and the fallout from Yukon's lost

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Speaker 1: to South Carolina on Friday, Plus my live show with

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Speaker 1: Sue Bird and Diana Tarrassi from Saturday in Tourneytown, presented

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Speaker 1: by capitol I. I sat down with the two Goats

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Speaker 1: to discuss the current players and coaches they'd most like

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Speaker 1: to team up with their thoughts on the many offseason

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Speaker 1: options for players these days, WNBA expansion, and whether Diana

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Speaker 1: has any plans to make it out to Door County,

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin to see her bench. Ginogate and two Goats coming

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Speaker 1: up right after this all right, slices before my interview,

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Speaker 1: I need to take a minute to talk Geno Oriema

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Speaker 1: because our show is named after truly built upon the

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Speaker 1: idea of the postgame handshake line that Gino skipped on

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Speaker 1: Friday night after his team lost to South Carolina.

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Speaker 2: So give me a minute or maybe a few.

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Speaker 1: So the basics, Gino's crash out allegedly stems from a

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Speaker 1: missing handshake. But we all saw Gino and Dawn did

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Speaker 1: shake hands before the game.

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Speaker 2: Now there's a final four.

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Speaker 1: Tradition of shaking again after the public address.

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Speaker 1: So maybe Gino did wait three minutes and start boiling

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Speaker 1: over as he waited for that second handshake. Maybe there

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Speaker 1: was a missing handshake before the game. There certainly was

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Speaker 1: a missing handshake after, So let's get to how we

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Speaker 1: got there that boiling To me, it feels like Ego, right,

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Speaker 1: How dare she slight me?

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Speaker 2: How dare she make me wait.

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Speaker 1: But instead of deciding the best way to get back

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Speaker 1: at her or the best way to spend his time

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Speaker 1: was to focus on coaching, to regulate himself and get

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Speaker 1: Gino started out seeing red, and it appears he never

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Speaker 1: stopped right. His team gets off to a slow start.

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Speaker 1: He thinks there's a foul discrepancy. I went back and

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Speaker 1: watched the game start to finish, focusing on fouls and

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Speaker 2: Nothing that screamed.

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Speaker 1: Out of control, nothing that felt like something he should

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Speaker 1: be boiling over about. To me, it felt like you

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Speaker 2: Gino felt there was right.

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Speaker 1: He's boiling from the beginning about the missing handshake. He's

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Speaker 1: boiling more because his team's off to a slow start,

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Speaker 1: because Don Staley's game Cocks have an incredible game plan

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Speaker 2: He is a rock rolling downhill. Then Sarah Strong's jersey.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't find out until after the game at some

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Speaker 1: third period, so he does that interview with Holly Rowe

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Speaker 1: accuses Dawn of ranting and raving. You know, is up

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Speaker 2: So he seems disconnected throughout. It feels like from.

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Speaker 1: The beginning of the game he has gotten mad about

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Speaker 1: She said men should take an indefinite leave, which both

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Speaker 1: Dawn Staley starts screaming at her. Maybe he thought the

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Speaker 1: and he is there for her. Where was Gino for

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Speaker 1: Something to think about. Now, let's look at Don. Don

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Speaker 2: Today. This weekend won't be one of them.

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Speaker 1: And she said later, I feel like I owe basketball,

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Speaker 1: Like basketball has been incredible to me, to my family,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because at this point he

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get in my conversation with Subert and

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Speaker 3: Let's get to today's guests joining me.

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Speaker 1: One of the greatest supers of all time, a Natesmith

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame or, four time WNBA champ, thirteen time

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Speaker 1: All Star, five time Olympic gold medalist, two time NCAA champion,

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Speaker 1: the only WNBA player to win titles in three different decades.

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Speaker 1: Host of a Touchmore and Birds Eye View, managing director

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Speaker 1: of the USA women's basketball team, a Seattle Storm co owner,

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Speaker 1: inaugural member of the NWSL Advisory Board, and she's been

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Speaker 1: memorialized in bronze.

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Speaker 3: It's super bird.

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Speaker 4: How good is Sue's statue too?

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Speaker 1: Sue's like one of the only athletes to get a

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Speaker 1: killer statue.

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Speaker 3: It looks like her.

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Speaker 1: It's super sick joining her arguably the greatest of all time,

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Speaker 1: the leading scorer in WNBA history, the first basketball player

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Speaker 1: scoring champion, fourteen time All WNBA selection, former League MVP,

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Speaker 1: led the Phoenix Mercury to three WNBA titles and led

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Speaker 1: the Yukon Huskies to straight national titles from two to four.

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Speaker 1: The courts at the Mercury practice facility bear her name

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Speaker 1: and likeness, and they took Aubrey Plaza's acl It's the

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Speaker 1: White Mama Dinah TROSSI, Well, I was gonna say, we'll

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Speaker 1: get loose with the little game, but Dinah's already loose

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Speaker 1: enough to be punking me up here, all right. The

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Speaker 1: game is called good good, or goodest It is very

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Speaker 1: similar to bench start cut. We definitely didn't steal that

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Speaker 1: Something is good, something is gooder, and something is goodest.

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Speaker 4: What was it? Good, gooder and goodest?

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Speaker 4: So good beating South Carolina because that's really not a thing,

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Speaker 1: Sue, Seattle, New York City, stores, Connecticut.

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Speaker 3: Gooder Seattle, goodest, New York. All right.

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Speaker 4: Oh, beating Sue in bowling? Good beating Sue basketball, gooder,

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Speaker 4: The game has really evolved.

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Speaker 4: And you know, Don does a great job when you

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Speaker 1: Go Bruins, And certainly something to be said for like

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Speaker 5: Them and now it's go break exactly. That was one

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Speaker 4: It was the school that I should have went to.

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Speaker 5: Oh oh, I know, guys, I know, she said in

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Speaker 5: the nil Era. We had this whole conversation of their

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Speaker 4: I'm staying home? Why would I leave Ucla?

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Speaker 4: Can't count on these kids anymore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But I mean, I do think those SEC battles

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Speaker 3: And we watched that, which was hard.

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Speaker 1: Also South Carolina's defense, I underestimated dang from the beginning

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Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, they're in every single passing lane.

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Speaker 5: They just have a lot of length they have, obviously,

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Speaker 3: And then everybody just has so much size, so much length.

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Speaker 3: You guys want to comment on Gino and the end

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Speaker 5: I had a touch more live today at five pm

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Speaker 1: Sure do figures, figures. I can't scoop Sue's show. All right, fine,

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Speaker 3: I can't make you answer. Let's talk about the players

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Speaker 1: If you could pick any player from any of the

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's Sarah strong like for me

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Speaker 4: I'll probably say Medisine Booker to play with someone on

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Speaker 5: I don't want to play against Rory Harmon as a

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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, looks like a nightmare.

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Speaker 1: My favorite line from the tournament was Rory Harmon doesn't

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Speaker 4: True, very true.

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Speaker 1: Like teams like just couldn't even inbound. Yeah, Okay, you

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Speaker 1: both played for Gino. What current women's college troops coach

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Speaker 4: These are good questions today. Did you have someone write these? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I always need a little bit of help. I'm

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Speaker 3: I think I'd like to play for Jeff Walls.

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Speaker 5: I played kind of sort of for him in a

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Speaker 5: I kind of want to experience. Kim Milky, I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, kid, I kind of want to.

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Speaker 3: Just like, what, like, what's it really like at practice?

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Speaker 4: That was not the answer.

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Speaker 4: I would love because, you know, we see her from

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for curiosity's sake, for sure, to really get why

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Speaker 3: Have been able to go undefeated.

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Speaker 1: What is the difference between a great team and one

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Speaker 3: Never have a bad day?

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Speaker 4: Well, no, you have a bad day and you still win.

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Speaker 4: That's the difference day. You know, the year we went

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Speaker 4: And you know, I think that's the difference.

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Speaker 3: Best Yukon team of all time?

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Speaker 4: Oh two oh two?

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Speaker 3: Okay, that was the we're gonna pick anyone else?

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Speaker 4: Oh too?

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Speaker 3: Okay, who do you think?

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Speaker 1: Obviously I'm not gonna say anything different with you two

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Speaker 4: We're not doing this next year?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I feel like I feel like Stuwie Morgan,

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Speaker 5: Mariah Jefferson would have something to say about it.

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Speaker 4: We're like eight first round picks.

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Speaker 5: Maybe May and Tina Renee Montgomery might have something to

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Speaker 5: say about it, but we're going two over here.

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Speaker 1: What's your favorite memory from a Final four suit? Off

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Speaker 1: the court, A team dinner, a celebration, band guy.

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Speaker 3: Fan guy. That's all you need to know, No, we

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Speaker 4: That means nothing to us.

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Speaker 5: Actually, one of my favorite memories was on the way

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Speaker 5: We play in Milwaukee is our regional and ray Allen

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was great.

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Speaker 3: What about the van guy?

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Speaker 4: D Oh, that's two's story. I don't want to steal

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Speaker 5: Let's hear it too. We just yukon women's basketball loves

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Speaker 5: a ban guy. That's all you need to know, all right.

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Speaker 1: We got Toronto and Portland entering the chat this season.

443
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Speaker 1: We now have Houston coming back next year from Connecticut,

444
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Speaker 1: and we've got three more in the coming years in Cleveland, Philly,

445
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Speaker 1: and Detroit. Outside of those teams, what city would you

446
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Speaker 1: pick for the next expansion team if you got to choose,

447
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Speaker 1: Probably Nashville.

448
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 4: I would love to see a Boston team. I think

449
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,160
Speaker 4: Boston obviously, with the Connecticut connection and just the way

450
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Speaker 4: the East Coast loves basketball. It's a whole different level

451
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Speaker 4: of love for the game. And you know, it'd be

452
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 4: kind of cool to see that Boston LA rivalry in

453
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Speaker 4: the WNBA.

454
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think with Connecticut leaving that leaves a

455
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Speaker 1: hole there that that market.

456
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Speaker 3: What do you make of that?

457
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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to reinvigorate conversation about the comets, about

458
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Speaker 1: players that in part I think don't get their full

459
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Speaker 1: due because we don't.

460
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Speaker 3: Have them back on the court before games.

461
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Speaker 1: We don't have events around the Comets where they can

462
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Speaker 1: flash back to their championship dynasty. So we'll have that again,

463
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Speaker 1: but it's coming at the expense of a whole franchise's history.

464
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Speaker 1: This happened in the NBA, right, Sue, You know it

465
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Speaker 1: all too well with Seattle. So how are you processing

466
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Speaker 1: this news?

467
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you're nailing it. It's a little bit

468
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Speaker 5: of sadness. You know, the Connecticut Son came into the

469
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Speaker 5: league my second season and they essentially, for lack of

470
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,640
Speaker 5: a better saved the Orlando miracle. This is a team

471
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Speaker 5: that was going out. Connecticut came in, Mohegan Sun came

472
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Speaker 5: in and save that franchise and it went on. I mean,

473
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Speaker 5: poor Connecticut's Son, but they got to the finals, like

474
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Speaker 5: almost immediately. By year two they're in the finals and

475
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Speaker 5: then obviously reached the finals. Above bunch of times had

476
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Speaker 5: a ton of success for us. Every time we went back,

477
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 5: you know, it was going home in a sense. So

478
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Speaker 5: there's there's sadness there, there's history. There's sadness that's going

479
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Speaker 5: to be lost. But to your point, again, Houston's back

480
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 5: and the comments are back, and it's going to be

481
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Speaker 5: amazing to walk into that arena and see their banners. Right,

482
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 5: this is this is a franchise that needs to be celebrated.

483
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Speaker 3: So it's just one of those things where it's a

484
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Speaker 3: both and and the Nashville answer.

485
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Speaker 1: Did y'all hear about the bid for the team that

486
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Speaker 1: was going to be the Summit as in Pat Summit.

487
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Speaker 3: That's such that branding alone needs to happen.

488
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Speaker 4: That's cool.

489
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, NWSL the National Women's Soccer League, the other

490
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Speaker 1: major pro women's league. There's a bunch of them up

491
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Speaker 1: and coming, but WNB and NWSL are the two big ones.

492
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Speaker 3: They abolished the draft. Team happens different.

493
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Speaker 1: Okay, well, just let me finish the question soon before

494
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Speaker 1: you answer it. Jeez, they abolished the draft, DIANAUS. So

495
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Speaker 1: every team now has to fight for each player they sign.

496
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Speaker 1: They have to prove that their culture, their facilities, they're housing,

497
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Speaker 1: they're coaching, everything is something that a player would want

498
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Speaker 1: to select and choose.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that the w should look into that?

500
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Speaker 4: No?

501
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Speaker 3: Why not? I have a take, So this is my take.

502
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Speaker 5: I actually think it's the arms race is a nice

503
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Speaker 5: little aspect, and I do think that exists in the

504
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Speaker 5: WNBA all beat a little bit later in a player's career,

505
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Speaker 5: but it does exist in free agency. I think we're

506
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Speaker 5: going to start seeing teams lean into that even more.

507
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Speaker 5: Even on the NBA side that has the billions. The

508
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Speaker 5: teams separate themselves by all those extra things. So I

509
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Speaker 5: think that part is great. I'm not talking about that part.

510
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Speaker 5: I think the game of basketball, because there's only five

511
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Speaker 5: on the court compared to eleven on a soccer field,

512
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Speaker 5: it's too fragile to have any top like Asia Wilson

513
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Speaker 5: coming out of college and just gets to pick what

514
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Speaker 5: team she goes to. I just don't know that the

515
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Speaker 5: game of basketball itself can support having the best players

516
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Speaker 5: get to decide right out the gate and form maybe

517
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Speaker 5: super teams.

518
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Speaker 3: Especially because it's just the five players on a court,

519
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 3: it's a lot easier to do.

520
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Speaker 5: One impacts five more than one impacts eleven in soccer,

521
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Speaker 5: and just the game itself.

522
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Speaker 3: So that's where I actually like the draft.

523
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Speaker 5: I think it's an event that you can sell and

524
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Speaker 5: it's exciting, so I want to keep it for that

525
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Speaker 5: reason also, and then I'll pass it over here.

526
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Speaker 4: I mean, I do like the survival of the fittest

527
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Speaker 4: of European Soccer. In football, I think there is something

528
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Speaker 4: about that. There is something about the best teams having

529
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Speaker 4: the most money, and it's a model that's worked for

530
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Speaker 4: years and years and years, so I think for soccer

531
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Speaker 4: to go to it, it's actually a great idea, you know.

532
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Speaker 4: I think the cream always rises to the top, and

533
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Speaker 4: then there's the upward mobility of when you are younger

534
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Speaker 4: and you are older, you can actually keep going up

535
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Speaker 4: and down the ladder of teams, which I think soccer

536
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Speaker 4: does pretty well. And I do like that, Sue, I

537
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Speaker 4: do like it.

538
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Speaker 3: I think just parodies easier in soccer. Yes, I agree, I.

539
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Speaker 4: Mean the only other thing off, Yes, because Chelsea doesn't

540
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Speaker 4: win it every year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, women are men men, Yeah, and women now the

542
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Speaker 1: women this year are lac and talent anyway. One thing

543
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Speaker 1: I do want to point out that I think is

544
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Speaker 1: interesting in the current times that I think the NWSL

545
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Speaker 1: now no longer has to deal with is there are

546
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Speaker 1: very different rights across the country for women, and as

547
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Speaker 1: a woman, I think there is an added level of

548
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Speaker 1: being drafted to a state where you do not have

549
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Speaker 1: bodily autonomy and what that means for your personal decision making.

550
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 1: Even you know, by accident, or you go in to

551
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Speaker 1: find out if something's going on and you find out

552
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Speaker 1: you're pregnant or otherwise, and that, to me, it's a

553
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: different level in women's sports that has to be accounted for,

554
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 1: and leagues have to be really on top of how

555
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Speaker 1: they're preparing and taking care of players. If they're getting

556
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Speaker 1: drafted to places where they don't feel safe, that.

557
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Speaker 3: Is a give it a clap. That's a great point.

558
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 4: That's so true.

559
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Speaker 1: We got to take a break more with Sue and

560
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Speaker 1: Diana right after this, all right, So another thing that's

561
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Speaker 1: very different from when y'all played is the off season options.

562
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Speaker 1: We talked about this a little last year, and now

563
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Speaker 1: there's even more. We've got unrivaled AU Pro Basketball, Project

564
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Speaker 1: B and then all the overseas options. Sue, you and

565
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Speaker 1: Megan had a great conversation about this on your podcast,

566
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Speaker 1: and one of the things I think you've very wisely

567
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Speaker 1: pointed out is that, yes, you can make a lot

568
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Speaker 1: of money on something like a Project B, but how

569
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Speaker 1: does that impact your legacy in America, your sponsorships and

570
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: brands in America. As they've continued to roll out more

571
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Speaker 1: information about that, have you felt any differently about that

572
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Speaker 1: as an option or how do you see the landscape now?

573
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Speaker 5: I don't think I have any new information. I think

574
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 5: we're all kind of waiting to see what Project B

575
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 5: is going to be like. But I think the best

576
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 5: part about having options, and I've always felt this way

577
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 5: now there's just more options, is you kind of get

578
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 5: to curate the career you want, You get to build

579
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Speaker 5: what you want, and that's the beauty of it. And

580
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 5: let's be honest, having all these options has allowed all

581
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Speaker 5: these players to.

582
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Speaker 3: Have a ton of leverage, and that's what's different.

583
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Speaker 5: I mean, you look at the WNBACBA negotiation that is

584
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 5: so different from any men's league we've ever had or

585
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 5: ever experienced. In their negotiations, they had the ability to

586
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 5: use leverage from other leagues. So the beauty of it

587
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 5: is it's just going to keep growing, get better. But no,

588
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 5: I don't have much different to say. I do still

589
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 5: think like, if I'm choosing, I'm definitely thinking about my

590
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 5: legacy in the US.

591
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Speaker 4: What about you DT, Yeah, I mean, the more options

592
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Speaker 4: that play, the better. Right when we grew up, when

593
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 4: we were in in the WNBA was just WBA or overseas,

594
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 4: we didn't have the options or the opportunities that they

595
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 4: have now. And it's really amazing to watch how we've

596
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 4: come so far in such little time. Really, and I

597
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 4: mean you just mentioned three other leagues that were formed

598
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 4: in the last two three years. That's incredible. And that's

599
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 4: the appetite of you guys as fans wanting to see

600
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 4: us year round here in the US too, which is

601
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 4: always the goal. You want to be home, you want

602
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 4: to be with your family, you want to be around

603
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 4: the fans here in the US. You want to be

604
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 4: able to make you know your mark on and off

605
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 4: the court here in the US. And the more opportunity

606
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 4: we have, the better for everyone. And you see that

607
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Speaker 4: all across the board.

608
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Speaker 5: Okay, you're getting offered the same amount of money from

609
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Speaker 5: Project be and Unrivaled.

610
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 3: Which one are you choosing?

611
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Speaker 4: Unrivaled? I'm not an idiot.

612
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Speaker 3: I was just curious.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean I think also y'all have some

614
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Speaker 1: fascinating stories about playing abroad, both in positive ways and

615
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: really scary and upsetting and deeply you know, long lasting

616
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Speaker 1: impacts of your time in Russia. And I wonder what

617
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Speaker 1: some of the top players who are now agreeing to

618
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Speaker 1: play in Project BE where a lot of the places

619
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Speaker 1: haven't yet been named and established, if you have any

620
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Speaker 1: advice for them, because I think, especially in this particularly

621
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Speaker 1: volatile time, it's a bit riskier to go play in

622
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Speaker 1: China and other places, Dubai and otherwise.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we.

624
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Speaker 4: Live in an ever changing world and things of that caliber.

625
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 4: Those events can just shift the way your career happens

626
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 4: really quickly, and you know soon. I played in r

627
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Speaker 4: for a long time and at the beginning things seem

628
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Speaker 4: to be pretty normal for the most part, and the

629
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Speaker 4: longer we stayed there, you can see the political landscape

630
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Speaker 4: shift and change, and the attitude towards us being foreigners.

631
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 4: It wasn't overt but you can feel it. And that's

632
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 4: why I say, if there's more opportunity to play here,

633
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 4: players will take advantage of that, where they don't have

634
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 4: to go to Russia, they don't have to go to China,

635
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 4: Project B wherever the hell they're going to be, which

636
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Speaker 4: I mean all over all over, of course. And yeah,

637
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 4: there is also the safety of you and your family.

638
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 4: You want to feel safe, and that's what all these

639
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 4: opportunities are giving us.

640
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Speaker 5: You talk about getting drafted to a state that doesn't

641
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 5: support women's rights. There's some countries obviously that's where it's

642
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 5: even worse. Save to going overseas is so interesting because

643
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Speaker 5: I'm so thankful for it. I feel like it's shaped

644
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 5: me as a person, like totally out of your comfort zone.

645
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 5: And then also player right now. If I was a

646
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Speaker 5: player right now, no, I'd rather stay home.

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Speaker 1: And America is in a different position globally than before

648
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Speaker 1: as well, which does impact your decision making.

649
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Speaker 3: Diana was just remembering watching your documentary.

650
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Speaker 1: You had a deeply scary incident abroad as a child,

651
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Speaker 1: and then you're out in Russia and the owner of

652
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: your team gets murdered. I mean, you've really been through

653
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Speaker 1: a lot in terms of like safety and wanting to

654
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Speaker 1: be somewhere where you feel safe.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think you go through those moments when you

656
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 4: feel like you have no other choice. And you know

657
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 4: at the time, if it wasn't going overseas, well, you

658
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 4: didn't play basketball for eight months and you didn't get

659
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Speaker 4: paid either. And you know, we all know what the

660
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 4: WNBA salaries were at the beginning of our careers. That

661
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 4: wasn't sustainable in so many ways. If you wanted to

662
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 4: be the best player in the world. If you wanted

663
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 4: to be, you know, an elite athlete, you just didn't

664
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 4: have the funds, you know, to not only get a trainer,

665
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 4: food wise, all these things, nutrition, strength and conditioning. So

666
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 4: that was really our only option, and we were willing

667
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 4: to put our lives, you know, in the middle of that,

668
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 4: to play basketball and pursue our careers.

669
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 5: Can you believe Diana made her poor sister leave Argentina?

670
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 3: Wasn't that just so sad? Did you not feel for Jessica?

671
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 4: Just love?

672
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 5: I don't mean to steal your show. We don't have

673
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 5: the BTS show this year. I'm trying to get my

674
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 5: I appreciate here like my co host. You're like, Dana,

675
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 5: what about this?

676
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 4: Yeah? I heard they replaced it with a better show, though.

677
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 3: No comment, Sue. You're so busy. I mentioned like half

678
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 3: of your many jobs in your intro. How is it that?

679
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 4: So many jobs?

680
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 3: So many jobs? Meanwhile, Dan over here, I'm like, what

681
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 3: are you up to?

682
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 4: We'll get to that, but.

683
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 5: So many jobs molding the minds of two young ones?

684
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 3: Yes, well that's a that's a big job. She's killing it.

685
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,479
Speaker 3: How do you balance owner?

686
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: Former player media member, advisor president of basketball.

687
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 5: Yes, I'm not the president bad Managing director of Duty.

688
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 5: Lindsay Whalen calls me Director Bird. It's like my favorite

689
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 5: thing ever. Every time she sees me, Director Bird, I love.

690
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 3: To see you.

691
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: Lindsay Whalen told me yesterday that for whatever reason, whatever

692
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: she talks about Sarah Strong, she accidentally says Sarah Spain.

693
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: So she's like, we're in all of our scouting meanings.

694
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, Sarah Spain's killing it, and everyone's like, what,

695
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:09,719
Speaker 1: I like it.

696
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I came first first. Yeah.

697
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 5: No, Yeah, it's definitely a balance. You definitely have to.

698
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 5: You know, when you're focused on one thing, keep it there.

699
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 5: When you focus on another, keep it there. But I

700
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 5: think that's what has me uniquely positioned, or I should

701
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 5: say I think my playing career and who I was

702
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 5: as a player, what I experience as a player, what

703
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 5: I expose myself to, it does have me uniquely positioned

704
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 5: to be able to fulfill these roles. And I think

705
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 5: what's interesting is I think some people think some of

706
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 5: those rules I'm I'm like, as as far as ownership

707
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 5: goes with a storm, I'm very much a silent owner.

708
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 5: I'm not in the coaches meetings. I'm not in the

709
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 5: free agency meetings, so it's not quite as much as

710
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 5: you might think. But at the same time, I do

711
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 5: think my playing career gave me a unique perspective that

712
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 5: I'm able to apply to all these jobs. And there

713
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 5: might be more jobs coming, guys. I can't promise more job.

714
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 3: That's a tease that dry yet on whatever those new

715
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 3: jobs are. The ink dry on the contracts.

716
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: Perhaps to do a touch more later today to find

717
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: out what the hell she's talking about. Great, great, great,

718
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,479
Speaker 1: I want to talk to us, say really quick, because

719
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,959
Speaker 1: what a cool and fascinating time. Everyone is paying attention

720
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: to that roster more than in a long time, because

721
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: it was so tight at the last Olympics, and because

722
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: you've got this new young talent that everyone's so fired

723
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: up to see the young Terre, the young internt as

724
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: they call themselves.

725
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 3: And also there's so much enthusiasm.

726
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: We're watching these like FEBA games on national television when

727
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: they've already qualified. They're meaningless, but we want to see

728
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: Page and Caitlin and everyone and Angel playing together.

729
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 3: How tough is your job right now?

730
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to whittle down this roster and turn

731
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: away some exceedingly talented people.

732
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not easy. It's not easy.

733
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 5: I think the best part is just the excitement, the

734
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 5: willingness that all the players. We've had a couple of

735
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 5: camps at a couple of different times. You mentioned we

736
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 5: went to Puerto Rico for a qualifying tournament, and you know,

737
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 5: sometimes some players can't come because of prior commitments. Sadly,

738
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 5: sometimes there's injuries. But every single player that has showed up,

739
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 5: no matter who they are, what their experience level is,

740
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 5: has been so excited to be there. And to me, yes,

741
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 5: there's going to come a day where I have to

742
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 5: make tough decisions, but as long as that is still

743
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 5: the culture of USA basketball, we can live with it

744
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 5: because it means we're going to take twelve people who

745
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 5: want to represent their country, who want to continue a legacy.

746
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: It's a big job for you too, to sort of

747
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: dispel the long held rumors that there's bias in selection.

748
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 3: And that's a tough one because of your background.

749
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 5: Yes and no, I mean I really where I land

750
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 5: with this is the way I played the game had

751
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 5: zero bias in it. I'm like, oh, you're shooting well

752
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 5: here you go, or you're playing well, here you go.

753
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 5: It's how I approach things, and I think given my

754
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 5: USA basketball experience especially or specifically, I know what makes

755
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 5: teams work in that environment, and that's really going.

756
00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: To be my only bias.

757
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: Do you have a deadline for when you have to

758
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: actually set that final roster like ish, you know, we leave.

759
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 3: I don't know the exact date.

760
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 5: Let's call it September first, loosely, because that's when the

761
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 5: tournament starts, is early September, and you want to give

762
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,479
Speaker 5: players like a little bit.

763
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 3: Of a heads up.

764
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 5: You don't want to tell them the day before. So

765
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 5: we're still figuring that out.

766
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 3: This is FEBA World Cup in Germany and September.

767
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: It's going to be very interesting for the WNBA to

768
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: continue figuring out its footprint while players are trying to play.

769
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 3: In all changing the footprints changing Yeah for FOBA, Yeah, exactly.

770
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Diana, I want to share a couple of photos

771
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: with you.

772
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 4: Last year.

773
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: We talked about how we were introducing the Diana Tarassi

774
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: bench in Door County, Wisconsin, and Diana said why Door County,

775
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 1: and I reminded her of the time she allegedly broke

776
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: a door when the Phoenix Mercury lost to the Chicago

777
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: Sky and the WNBA Finals. The Sky ended up bringing

778
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: that door on stage at their Grand Park Championship zerialwag

779
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: So in honor of Diana's retirement. The bench for d Tassi,

780
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: who always hated doors. Allegedly, it's in a beautiful spot.

781
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: There's a goat named Nacho. Are you activating? Get a

782
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 1: little hip action?

783
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 4: Is that?

784
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: Does look like I've got you doing a little bit

785
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: of pet ahead of the bench getting a That goat

786
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: was named Nacho because we felt it was necessary for

787
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: there to be a goat there. Thank you, by the

788
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 1: way for signing that jersey the goat the goat worn jersey.

789
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: Someone sent it to you to sign for me, so

790
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Do you have any plans to get

791
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: to Whitefish Dunes State Park in Wisconsin anytime soon?

792
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 4: Actually for spring break next year? Yeah, there's uh from Phoenix.

793
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 4: I think there's a five way city to get there. Yeah,

794
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 4: what a great gesture, thinks sir. Yeah, I've had I've

795
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 4: you know, Sue gave me a lot of gifts last

796
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 4: year during the show.

797
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 3: Do you still have those?

798
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 4: I still thank you? Put them?

799
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 3: What was your favorite gift.

800
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 4: The crown was nice, The coffee mug was dope, you know,

801
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 4: because I love coffee, so that was a nice gesture.

802
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 4: But this, this just blows my mind.

803
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 3: The coffee bunks say like, not my problem.

804
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: And my favorite thing is how confused people are that

805
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: work there, because first we announced it and then I'm like,

806
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: all right, so this will be up soon, and they're like, no,

807
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: we have one guy who makes the benches and this

808
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: one calls it. So it takes a while to whittle.

809
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: And then I to schedule when I could get up

810
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: there and be there for the you know, and then

811
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: they had to bolt it in because they were worried

812
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: it would get stolen. So people, I've been seeing these

813
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: dispatches from the internet where people stop by and ask

814
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: about it and the people inside are like, we're not

815
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: really sure it's we're a basketball player. I think she

816
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: once said that she like didn't believe in obstacles like doors,

817
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: and I'm like, the legend grows. I think I might

818
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: need to send him like a one sheet, like a

819
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: little plaque.

820
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 3: This is why this is a little black a little

821
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 3: I should a.

822
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 4: Little bronze plaque. Do it? Okay?

823
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 3: Yes, I'll be following up with your people. Hand delivered. Yes,

824
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 3: you know, she hits a broad station. You get a

825
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 3: little black black.

826
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 4: You can't have it all in life. I always say,

827
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 4: you can't have it right. That's right, you can't have

828
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 4: it all.

829
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 3: How has retirement been since we spoke last year.

830
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 4: It's been wonderful. You know, we were talking about being busy.

831
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 4: I thought once you retired, you know, I just wake

832
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 4: up at nine thirty and have a cup of coffee.

833
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 4: But when you have two little kids, that's just not

834
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 4: the case. So it's been wonderful to spend a lot

835
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 4: of time with Penny and the kids and just do

836
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 4: a lot of the everyday things that I was so

837
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 4: absent for for a long time because it was travel

838
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 4: or just obsessed with working out and being on the court.

839
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 4: So you know how that goes. The last couple of years.

840
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 4: You just try to do everything you can to be

841
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 4: on the court in the best shape as possible, and

842
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 4: that takes up a lot of your not only your

843
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 4: physical physical time, but your mental time too. And I

844
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 4: have not missed that mental stress that I had about

845
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 4: trying to win games, trying to get everyone on the

846
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 4: same page. So It's been really nice to be outside

847
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 4: of that basketball bubble in a lot of ways. And

848
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 4: there are things that I missed right this week and

849
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 4: really makes me appreciate not only my w NBA years NCAA,

850
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 4: but being around the basketball culture which is so tight

851
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 4: and you know, we really root each other on so much.

852
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 4: So it's been nice to see a lot of people

853
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 4: I haven't seen a long time.

854
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: I got a chance on Thursday night. I think it

855
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: was who knows what data is to go to an

856
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: event at the performance Center to be on the court

857
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: that bears your name and likeness.

858
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 3: Are you wanting to get involved with the Mercury or

859
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: with basketball here in your hometown?

860
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have some jobs lined up myself.

861
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 3: Is the ink dry on the contracts?

862
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 4: I don't even think it's written up yet, but yeah,

863
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 4: I have some things in the works.

864
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 3: You do, okay, you got a better idea? You didn't

865
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 3: really past year.

866
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: You were like, I just want to let life come

867
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: to me and figure out what I want.

868
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think once you take a little time off,

869
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 4: you understand the things you don't want to do. And

870
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 4: that's advice you gave me, and which was, you know,

871
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 4: probably the best advice you ever gave me is when

872
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 4: you take time way you understand the things that you

873
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 4: don't want to do, and you know, those things become

874
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 4: very clear that you want to be involved with. So

875
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 4: there's some things that, like Su said, those twenty years

876
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 4: of playing basketball have made me really appreciate. So we'll

877
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 4: see where he goes.

878
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I do think that it's very hard to be over

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Speaker 1: committed for your whole life and really get an idea

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Speaker 1: of what you like and you take a break and

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Speaker 1: you're suddenly like, oh wow, I really miss that and

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Speaker 1: I do not miss that at all, and that really helps.

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Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I mean, you have to relearn yourself in

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Speaker 4: so many ways because basketball it just was our identity

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Speaker 4: and everything we did. So but you know what I've

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Speaker 4: learned is when you step away from the game and

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Speaker 4: you've taken every opportunity and you really really really throw

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Speaker 4: yourself into it, when you step away, you have no regrets,

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Speaker 4: no regrets. That's why you got that tattoo on your

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Speaker 4: lower back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Okay, last fun question because I saw Sue out in

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Speaker 1: Milan and I didn't see you personally, but I saw

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Speaker 1: you on some on some skates.

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Speaker 3: Oh that wasn't in Milan, Oh okay, but I was

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Speaker 3: on some skates. Wherever you were, you were on some

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Speaker 3: figure skates. You were pulling it off. Yeah, thanks, not bad, right.

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Speaker 3: I want to know.

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Speaker 1: If you were to pursue an Olympic sport other than

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Speaker 1: basketball winter winter, what would you have the best shot

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Speaker 1: at medaling and in your prime?

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Speaker 3: Not now, everyone has to say curling now, because.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think you would have to be hockey.

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Speaker 3: Well, something I didn't realize. I didn't know.

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Speaker 5: There's only like less than a handful of team sports

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Speaker 5: at the Olympics. Even yeah, I went through Olympics and

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Speaker 5: even some of the team sports. It's kind of like

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Speaker 5: how track is a team sport in a sense, like

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Speaker 5: there's the individual of it, but then as a team,

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Speaker 5: your score gets put together, YadA, YadA. So in terms

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Speaker 5: of like being on a team, being with others, there's

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Speaker 5: only like two sports, and hockey's one of them.

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Speaker 3: And I feel like I'm a team sport person. I'm

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Speaker 3: not an individual sport person. I know this through and

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Speaker 3: through yeared out. So hockey i'd like to see. I'd

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Speaker 3: like to see that. Are you go on skates? You

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Speaker 3: looked pretty good. I'm actually pretty good.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I had to play the part a

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Speaker 5: little bit, although figure skating way harder than that. And

921
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Speaker 5: then hot topicks. Oh top it's a different topick got me.

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Speaker 5: I got loose with it one time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, out the cutting edge for the old seer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: My elbow is still mushy. You know when you get

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Speaker 5: a bushy ebo. Yeah, still mushy. Shout out Terra Lepinski,

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Speaker 5: though she's a great teacher.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, dt, I've never thought about it. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Long distance skiing, sure, cross country skiing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, is that what it's called.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, clearly you've never thought about it or watched it.

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Speaker 4: That one.

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Speaker 3: That one's that's like distance running.

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Speaker 1: Like that's like your lungs are burning for half of

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Speaker 1: the time you're out there and you're gutting through it.

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Speaker 4: Let me rethink this. Yeah, curling, Okay, we're back to curling.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: These two are the absolute best.

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Speaker 1: Huge round of applause for them, And if you want

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Speaker 1: Sue to put anything on the record, go check out

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Speaker 1: a touch more later today.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Thanks Sarah, Thank you, Sarah.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again to Sue and Dinah for taking the time,

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Speaker 1: especially amid such a busy tournament weekend they had so

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Speaker 1: many different obligations. Also, thanks to Capital One for giving

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Speaker 1: me another opportunity to sit down with two of the best.

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Speaker 1: We have to take another break when we return. A

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Speaker 1: Grandpa almost made me cry.

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Speaker 1: about hitting the road for big women's sporting events is

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Speaker 1: getting to meet Slices and talking to fellow in sports fans.

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Speaker 1: I loved all the folks who came out to the

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Speaker 1: live show on Saturday and came to the meet and

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Speaker 1: greet after the people who stopped me on the streets.

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Speaker 2: In it the game to talk about this show.

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Speaker 1: You know, this show is what it is because of

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Speaker 1: all of you, this great community that we've somehow managed

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Speaker 1: to build in less than two years, and we're so

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Speaker 1: you listen to it every day and start your day

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Speaker 1: with it. I was in the meet and greet and

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Speaker 1: this grandpa introduced me to his little granddaughter and he said,

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Speaker 1: one day, I hope she grows up to be just

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Speaker 1: like you. This man almost made me cry all and

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Speaker 1: I had to take a bunch more pictures and meet people.

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Speaker 2: So I was like, no crying, no crying, no crying, but.

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Speaker 1: Just it's really meaningful to get to meet all of you,

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Speaker 1: and we really do appreciate you all so much.

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Speaker 2: So thanks.

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Speaker 1: Now it's your turn, great and review. Thanks for listening.

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