WEBVTT - Hangin' with the Boys: Voluntarily Attendance 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:16.079 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:28.120 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Blowing out of the backfield. 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:33.440 Next floating down the sideline, he is Hanging with the Boys, 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:38.960 presented by Wingstuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now, your hosts, 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:45.880 Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross, welcome 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:51.440 to the show. It is eleven thirty on Thursday, and 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:54.720 that can mean only one thing. It is time for 0:00:54.760 --> 0:01:00.200 your favorite program, Hanging with the Boys. It is sixty 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:04.280 degrees outside and cloudy feels like fifty eight. It's a 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:10.480 high of sixty seven, low of fifty seven tonight. And 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:14.800 no one in this room can hear? Can the people 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:16.600 hear us out here? Because we here we go. I 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:18.759 gotta yeah, I gotta skin hear us? Man, we were 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:21.520 good Man's we got we got shot. You dressed like 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:25.120 an fine on the billboys shopping in place. Hey Hey, 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:27.680 hey a Kurt got on a night shirt. I'm the 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:31.280 only one they did with the cowboy But cowboy man representative, Jesse, 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:35.880 are you with us? I'm here? Man, all right? What 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:37.720 do you got on the shirt today? Fellas? I can't 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:39.280 see this far? Yeah? What you got on today? What 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:43.479 you got on your shirt today, brother Jesse? It says 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:48.600 at at from CD Lamb. Well, we can't hear. As 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:51.280 we're getting into table. We'll take Jesse off and the 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:54.440 rest of us as talk. You can't hear Jesse hear. 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:58.320 His shirt says at at CD Lamb. Okay, at CD Lamb, 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:02.280 all right, at all right, yeah, as we'll get a 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:04.320 closer as we'll get a closer to the draft. You know, 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:06.480 reminds me of what happened last year in the draft 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:09.520 when CD got drafted by the Cowboys and the camera's 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:13.000 panning to him and that second cell phone ray. Oh yeah, 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:16.440 your girlfriend picked it up and he snatched it. He said, yeah, 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:20.480 don't do that with the quickness. With the quickness there's shirt. 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:25.359 Did you get that made? Jesse? I did? Yeah, I did. 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.840 I had to get this made. That's awesome, man, that 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:30.560 is awesome. I love it. I love it. You have 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:32.680 like a T shirt, guy, because you have a lot 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:36.919 of like homemade T shirts. Right, I have a T 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:40.280 shirt gal Gal, Okay, there you go. We need some 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:42.799 hang with the Boys T shirt. Yeah, come, let's let's 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:45.919 work on that. I'll pay for one. I'll support the calls. 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:48.799 I'll support local owned business. Yeah, just tell them to 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:50.400 what do? What do you want to get? Man? We 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:51.639 can get it. We can get it done up. I 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:53.160 don't know. We need to get with Chris and work 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:55.360 on that. We'll figure that out. We'll get We'll get mad. 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.480 I love Chris Man. He always take care of me. Man. 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:00.680 Let me look at Chris. Just bounced and we had 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:04.239 some technical difficulties and Chris ran in here. Yes we 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:07.240 have he Yatt, Nate hooked up, got the fat man, 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:10.880 hooked the big man. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:14.480 call you that the fat man. Well, you know what's 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:17.680 one word like you said, one word word fat man 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:20.600 gonna get me? Then me and Din Sounds will never 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:24.799 be friends. No, he Hey, I'm Nate doing you Din Sound? 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:27.760 He's like, now you fat man? I said you rat man? Okay, 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:31.000 phat though right, he's a rat man. Yeah, rat man. 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:34.600 You look like Mickey. Hey, Chris, let's get a let's 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:36.480 get a look at the plaza. You got that plaza. 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:38.480 Look since we missed it at the first of the show, 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:45.400 because it's nice and nice and homey. Look live. Look 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:49.800 at Tostito's Championship Plaza the Star here in Frisco. Sign 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:52.280 work out there, little sign work going on, not a 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:54.040 lot of not a lot of action. Is it raining 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:57.000 out there? Just it's a little cloud. It's a look cool. 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:02.440 They're cool, Chris, can you new choice? Chris? I gotta echo, man, 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:04.760 We got all kinds of stuff going. Man, I'll tell 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:07.120 you what. Man, If Jesse come back in the office, 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.200 we can we can all get together on one of them, 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:13.520 one of court. You have no no, no One's Jesse 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:21.760 show is every Thursday. Please please come in Jesse next Thursday, 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:25.559 April the twenty second at eleven thirty. Be here about 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:31.840 eleven fifteen. Because we know how you like. See if 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:33.560 it works. It would be good to get the game 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:35.200 back to you. You know what, if you come out 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:37.640 here next week, let's all go grab lunch after the show. 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:41.080 We haven't we haven't broken bread in a long time. 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:44.920 That would be nice. Since we can't see. You just 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.600 messed the whole deal of what I do. What I do. 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:52.200 We have a broken bread and broke break bread, man, 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:55.520 just say break bread. Have a broken bread, dude. I'm 0:04:55.600 --> 0:05:01.359 trying to overcompensate my country hic accent with proper, proper grammar. 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:04.760 So let me. You made my brain scramble extra to 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.320 getting that in. You know, don't do that all right? 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:11.120 Oh man, I'll tell you what. Let's jump into the 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:16.240 off season program. Yes, because we Jesse sent us a 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:20.800 tweet from it was Ian Rappaport about the memo that 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:23.200 came out from the league. What are they doing different? 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:26.159 Is anything different this year than what they've done previously 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:32.000 with all season stuff? Yes, big time pandemic. It is 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:35.400 big time. It's like, well, the first month of it 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:38.080 is virtual, so they're going to continue with some of 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:40.880 the virtual stuff after that. In June, it's supposed to 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:44.320 kind of go back to normal with OTA's Mini camp 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.560 and then a break before training camp. But that the 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:50.719 big issue I think is not really what's changing. It's 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:55.359 the reaction to what's changing. Yes, yes, the reaction to reaction. 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:57.400 You know what, what year did coach John's come in 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:02.680 nineteen eighty nine nine, And just think coach Johnson came 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:07.920 in in eighty nine ninety and by ninety two this 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:11.880 program that they're taking away is who where he instituted 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:15.360 for the whole league. So he started he started that, yes, sir, 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:19.200 he started official off season training and he said it 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:25.880 was voluntary, and uh, it was never voluntary as Troy voluntary. 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:29.560 Yeah yeah, I think how long he lasted. Yeah. So 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:34.320 it's amazing how one guy come in with a concept 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:36.400 and how the whole league jumped on it and take 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:39.240 advantage of it, because this is how we used to 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:43.599 do it before coach Johnson came in. Jesse, you're being quiet? 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:47.479 What I know you gotta take on this. Yeah, well, 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:52.040 I mean the biggest thing with this is is as fans, right, 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:55.880 as media people, we're always looking for some sort of coverage. 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.160 We're always looking for some sort of story, and we 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:00.920 don't get that when people are doing things and an 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:04.719 abnormal way, zoom call away from the facility because we've 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.400 been so conditioned. I am on the same boat with 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:10.680 with with Nate is this is how I've always been 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:13.320 programmed that it would run. It would always run many 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:16.360 camps ota and I never had the luxury to be 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:18.280 able to like, well, I'm not showing up to offer 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.680 the workouts for whatever reason. No, I had to be 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:22.720 there for a moti of the reasons. One I was 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:24.560 trying to make the team too. I ain't that a 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:25.840 little bit of money that they give you when you 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:30.240 come to those offers and workouts, and I'll take it. 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:35.160 I needed all of it. I needed a yeah, I 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:37.560 need is a little bit more for me, but I 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:39.240 needed all of it. I needed all that money that 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:40.600 they was going to try to give me for those 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.720 officers and workouts, uh and three to get back in shape. 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:47.440 And things have transitioned and they have changed over time. 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:50.360 You have so many more like when thinking about when 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:53.400 Nate played, right, when Nate played, there wasn't you know 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:56.960 personal trainers like that and workout facilities and all the 0:07:57.040 --> 0:08:00.480 different programs. And as the years went on, you have 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:03.960 guys now who if you don't have a personal trainer, 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:05.840 if you don't have a trainer that you work with 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:08.600 one on one, whether that be weight training or position 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:14.760 specific training, then you're you're basically a dinosaur because everybody 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.440 has that. All these guys have somewhere where they go 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.960 and get that training done on a personal level, one 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:23.400 on one level, or a small group level. And so 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:26.160 the days of having to come in and wanting to 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:29.480 do workouts in the facility are kind of non existent 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:34.120 because of those factors, because of guys having off season 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:37.160 homes and being in other cities. They can take their 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:39.760 training with them whenever they go. They can go to 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.280 Cabo or you know, and have a guy come out 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:43.800 there and be with them for weeks. They can go 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:47.719 to Miami or California. So that part has changed. But 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:50.719 the thing for us is we get our stories and 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:52.480 we get our juice, and we get all our stuff 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.199 from people actually having to be in the building. We 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:58.120 get to see guys, see their development, what are they doing, 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:01.720 get little hints and clues about what's happening. But most importantly, 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:04.120 when you see how this team played last year and 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:08.080 you're saying, wait, we had communication issues, we had fundamental issues, 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:12.480 we had alignment assignment issues, we had personnel issues, I 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:16.000 want it and make It's been on this for at 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:18.240 least three or four months. I want the guys in 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:20.719 the building so I can get my hands on them, 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:22.599 so I can work with them, whether that's in a 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:25.439 walk through setting, a job through setting, a meeting setting, 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:27.800 whatever type of setting. But I want to get away. 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.000 I want to get away from this zoom because it 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:33.360 is so difficult. And this might be the one thing 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:37.360 I'll say negative against my guy freakie Mike for all 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:39.880 the stuff that freakye Mike sett in the beginning and 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:46.760 his whole you know documentary that he did about changing 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:50.240 in technology. I find it hard to believe that he's 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:54.000 figured out a way to do coaching football virtually. He 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:56.439 just doesn't come from that school. He doesn't come from 0:09:56.480 --> 0:10:00.719 that world where coaching football players and football schemes and 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:02.679 all that kind of stuff. He didn't come from a 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:04.920 place where you do that virtually. He come from a 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:08.080 place where you do that physically on the field, hands 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:11.320 on the guys, moving them, seeing the move this whole 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:15.000 virtual thing. He's not in that Psalm McVay mode of 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:18.640 coaching where technology is something that is in the forefront 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:21.440 of their mind. He's from the old school and he's 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:24.080 won that way and his foundation is that way where 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:26.679 you go and you get on the field doing it. 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.040 And I think when every moment that you take him 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:31.199 off of the field and make him have to do 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:34.439 things virtually, I think more and more and more that 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:37.160 is going to hurt this football team, and not only 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:39.400 this team, but other coaches in the league who have 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:42.559 to you know, who have to coach that way. You 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:48.880 know what's amazing is handsOn b Yeah, there's some background. Yeah, 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:51.520 I ain't good and it' I'm gonna keep them trying 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:56.000 to talk over my fat self. Anyway. You cannot have 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.920 a team play as bad as we did last year 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:05.720 and not more your hands on them. Our players. Oh, 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:07.240 I don't want to say this in the wrong way. 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:12.160 Over the last three or four years, our defensive players 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:15.720 have not shown to be able to adjust to game 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:20.360 situations because the coaches say we want them to play fast. 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.960 And what it says in a kind of ugly way 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:27.400 is that our guys when we make small adjustments to 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:30.760 different formations and different movements, they ain't smart enough to 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:33.959 catch you on. And I'm not saying every guys like that, 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:37.480 but for your whole team now to back up two 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:40.640 and three steps, even eight nine weeks into the season, 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:43.600 that does not bowl as well. And as coach McCarthy 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:46.760 said during his little quick press conference, is I'm still 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:48.599 trying to get the guys in here that I like 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:51.679 and that I want, and that is up here, and 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.400 it's whether it's physically being smart. And I hate to 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:58.720 say that about our players, and but that's obvious about 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:01.360 the last coaching said that we had and they played 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:05.240 basically one or two fronts, two or three coverages, and 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:09.480 they played fast, but they wasn't good physically. Okay, we 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:11.720 took these basically the same group of guys and trying 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:15.160 to play fast again with multiple fronts, and it didn't work. 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:19.800 So I would like for the guys to be here, 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:22.439 especially guys that are on the bubble. Don't y'all fall 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:25.440 for this, y'all. Make sure y'all over it up working out, y'all, 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:27.560 make sure y'all come in here. What do you think? 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:32.599 I guess what's behind this? I guess? I mean, in 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:35.280 some ways, I feel like they're using COVID as an 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:40.480 excuse to either, well, I guess, to not work out. 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:44.480 And is it a fact that you know negatively or 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:46.880 is it something where the players just don't don't care 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:48.640 if they don't learn it soon enough. Or is it 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.439 more like a long term thing where the union is 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:53.960 like trying to negotiate, saying, if you want us there, 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:56.200 you're gonna have to give us more money. They're going 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:59.520 to give more money. The owners are not going to 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:02.640 give more money because what what they what they have 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:06.559 done is they conceded, They conceded things that was voluntary anyway, 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:10.760 and that players were basically doing for free anyway, Okay, 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:13.840 we don't need you, we need you doing the mini camp, 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:16.360 we need you doing OTAs. And as we talked off 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:19.679 Aron Kurt, who this is gonna hurt. It's them bubble guys, 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:23.240 the studs and the stars, like Jess talked about a 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:25.839 few weeks ago last week, they're gonna get their money, yeah, 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:31.199 and get the money. Yeah. So uh, they gonna you know, 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:35.280 it ain't mandatory that they don't come in just you know, 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:37.959 so they're gonna come in and do their thing. And 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.600 those bubble guys, I'm telling you that a coach you're 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.760 looking at like wow, you know this rookie seemed to 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:46.719 be just the same guy because you ain't getting to 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:49.240 look at them a long period of time. I was 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:51.839 an overweight guy and I needed to be here. I 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:53.719 had to be here, you know. I was one of 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.319 the first guys people not to have a trainer to 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:58.800 help me lose weight, to get help me stay in control. 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:01.320 But when I wasn't here, there wasn't it wasn't there 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:03.920 in Frauda, I was here. You have to be somewhere. 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:06.680 That's structure a lot of these guys we see after 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:09.040 their careers, they'll be like, wow, that's you. You know 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:10.880 you look at the player like wow, man, you play dB. 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:13.280 You look like they go one way or the other. Yes, 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:17.920 they either up yet slim. Yeah, so well then why 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:22.680 I guess the um? I mean? Nick even reported on 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:27.080 the website that almost twenty Dallas players have bonuses built 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:29.360 into being here in the off season working out. So 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:31.320 if you've got and those are the top guys, obviously, 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:35.240 So if you got your top guys making money, if 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:38.720 they're here, and you got your bottom guys needing to 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:42.040 be here, if they want a job, why are players not? 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:45.840 Why are they talking about not working out? The virtual thing? 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:48.880 That's the nature of the beasts of America. You know 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:51.360 you you think you get it. Oh oh man, I 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:52.880 don't have to be there, and I'll just you know, 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:55.680 I can work out on my own. And some guys 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:58.000 are just driven like that. Jesse was driven like that. 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:02.080 I wasn't driven like that. So guys like me, you 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:05.840 need to be weary, uh, your posse or your or 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:07.720 your wife or whoever you hang always Hey, hey man, 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:09.320 we ain't got no off season of money. You need 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:11.640 to get up in there and get get us some 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:15.240 money because a lot of guys, I'm telling your coaches 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:19.680 are funny. When they see guys, they trust guys. When 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:22.440 they don't see guys in that scale go wrong or 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:24.440 you're not moving as well. When you get back to them, 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.920 like what what have you been doing? So now they 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:29.920 got they mine got to go another place. You know, 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:34.120 coaches were much like players. They got set things how 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:36.880 they want things to do. And like, uh, Jesse said, 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:39.840 that was new, that was it was new for everybody, 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:41.640 but that was new for coach mccarth to come in 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:45.400 from off the streets into virtual What are they what 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:47.920 are they allowed to do? Now? Can they work out? Now? 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:53.000 They can't coming together? Yeah, captain's workouts yea, where it's 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:56.120 player run more or less. You know, you can't have 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:59.240 coaches at Martin's running the offensive line and the strength 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:02.680 guys I think can be on hand, but none of 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:05.640 the one you know a football staff can be there. 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:10.400 I bumped into a coach yesterday in the hall and 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:14.760 I kind of floated what Nate, you and Jesse have said, 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:20.040 how how much they missed being together last year and 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:24.280 having offseason workouts, And they agreed one hundred percent they 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:27.240 were like, yeah, I said, because you said, I said, 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:29.080 you know you saw the defense starting to pick it 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:32.000 up towards the end of the year, because, in my opinion, 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:35.080 they were starting to figure it out, you know, things 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:39.240 started clicking. And he was like, yeah, like, we definitely 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:43.280 missed not being together last year, and this year you're 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:45.800 going to see a huge difference because they're going to 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:47.800 be able to spend that time together. But it sounds 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:51.280 like some of these teams Kurt you put on here, Seattle, Denver, 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:54.240 Tampa Bay, Detroit, New England have all said that they're 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:56.840 not going to take part in Volutaria, at least some 0:16:56.920 --> 0:17:00.320 of their players have said they're not gonna. Yeah, that's 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:04.240 good and well man, but I'm telling you, coaches have 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:09.479 a fun way on that. It's like from players twenty 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:14.040 five on down, the coaches control totally. Players twenty five 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:16.520 and up. You kind of got management sticking their hands 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:18.840 on you because of the money, because of who they are. 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.240 But that twenty five, twenty seven and thirty player on 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:25.159 down coaches looking at you, Jesse, You've bet that'd be 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:27.399 one of those guys. Yeah, Jesse, how much did these 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:30.600 offseason workouts help you in terms of getting them a job. 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:34.080 How did you hear that last part? Kurt said, again, 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:37.200 as far as you know, how much did these offseason 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:40.159 workouts help you in getting a job and getting noticed? 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:49.080 Because when coach Wade or Coach care or coach Sherman 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:53.000 look out their office window, who they see the dreadhead 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:56.560 kid out there running sprints out there running routes um 0:17:56.800 --> 0:18:01.120 the weight room. Because all these coaches and you guys 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:03.400 know you guys walk through the weight room and you'll 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:05.520 see a coach on the staron Madison. You'll see a 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:07.280 coach getting a lift, and you'll see a coach in 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:09.159 the sign, and you'll see a coach in the hotel 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:12.440 or the cotel or the training room. A lot of 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:15.280 times they're doing that. But to Nate's point, they're walking 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:19.240 around us saying, okay, who is serious about football? And 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:22.320 coaches all want to know you here in the interview process. 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:25.520 Now when it comes to the combine and the draft 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:28.040 and all that kind of stuff, they want football players 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:32.560 who are serious about football. Now, those upper eche line dudes, yes, 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:34.800 they want them serious about football as well. But because 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:38.240 there's so much money into those guys, you gotta just 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:40.240 deal with those guys and hope that you got you 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:43.480 found good guys. But like Nate was saying from twenty 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:46.680 eight twenty nine, thirty down, I need to know that 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:49.640 these guys are here and are serious about football, because 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:52.600 that rounds about my roster. Those are guys who complete 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:56.080 my football team. Those are the glue pieces on my 0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:58.560 roster that keeps things together. And if I can get 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:02.159 a majority, you're not going to get everybody. But if 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:05.399 I can get majority of the guys who I know 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:09.000 that are buying into the system, who are buying into 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:11.800 the workouts to do what we're supposed to do. Now 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:14.439 I'm a head of curve. And if I can get 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:16.520 majority of the guys to buy in from that lower 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:19.080 tier and some of the guys to buy in from 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:21.920 that upper tier, I got a decent football team. And 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:24.240 now would end up happening is those guys who aren't 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:26.879 bought in, those guys who aren't who really aren't a 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:29.760 part of the team, they now begin to stick out 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:32.800 like a sore thumb, and they're easily to identify. Now 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:34.800 when you identify, and what do you do with them? 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:36.520 Do you just deal with them? Do you trade them? 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:38.639 Do you cut them? Do you replace them, whatever that 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:42.159 may be, but you you're able to identify. For a 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:45.400 guy like me, it helped me tremendously because I came 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:48.080 in I was in the best shape coaches saw me there. 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:50.679 If I had questions, I would go into the coach's 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:53.119 office and ask questions. And that's like you know they 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:55.160 tell you in school, Hey, you want to get brandy 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:57.960 points with your professor, go to his you know, his 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:01.560 office hours, go to her office hours and ask questions 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:03.879 and be and let them know that you're engaged in 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:07.720 their class. When they're doing their grades and your grade 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:10.359 might be a seventy five, you might just get that 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:12.439 seventy eight or that eighty, or you're trying to move 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:14.040 up two or three points. And it's the same thing 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:18.240 for football. It's not brown nosing. It's really taking, you know, 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:21.720 a serious concern about your craft and about a job. 0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:24.480 You ain't snitching nobody out, but you're showing them every 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:26.600 single day that I am committed to this team, I 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:28.880 am committed to work, I am committed to getting better. 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:31.520 And that helps you find your way on a roster 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:35.200 when you know when when it comes time to build 0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:38.320 out that fifty three all right, let's take our first break. 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:41.640 When we come back, we have a fan question. 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