1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Doug Gottlieb Show podcast. Be 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday three to five, 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio dot com, 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: by searching app as pr BOO What Up America, Doug 7 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: Gottlieb Show FuG Sports Radio coming to you live on 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: a at least here in Green Bay, Wisconsin. A spectacular, 9 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: spectacular Wednesday, uh, midday, afternoon, whatever you want to call it, 10 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: And I think we got a heck of a show 11 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: for you. No NBA Finals game tonight, that'll be tomorrow night. 12 00:00:52,159 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: There's an NBA Finals gaming night. Wait what what? So 13 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: help me out with this, Jase too, Okay, So they go, what, Yeah, 14 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: I thought we were again. That makes sense because I 15 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: was looking game game five is Monday. So they went, 16 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: what Sunday, Thursday? Sunday Wednesday? 17 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: Is that right? 18 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: I just I have no there's no rhythm to it. 19 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: Is that fair? There's just no y. I just feel 20 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: completely lost as to the rhythm of it. All right, 21 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: we'll circle back to that upcoming. But uh, let's let's 22 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: dive in on Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin and we'll 23 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: get back to tonight's game a little preview. Antonio Daniels 24 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: joins us. In twenty minutes, we'll preview tonight's game. We'll 25 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: get to again the the basketball and if it's if 26 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: it's too much inside of basketball for you, I don't 27 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: think it is. But uh Shay's had two outstanding games. 28 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: Game two way better than Game one, far fewer shots. 29 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: But I thought the adjustment was they put Nemhart in 30 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: the post defensively as opposed to guarding him on the perimeter. 31 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: He had less and less success when it was in 32 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: the post as opposed to when he was on the perimeter. 33 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: And that's also how they got some inside out kickout 34 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: shots when every time they try to double team him. 35 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: So what do they do? We'll ask Antonio danas Plus 36 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: we'll ask why what happens now that the Knicks keep 37 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: getting denied of current NBA head coaches that they want 38 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: to talk to about their open position. But let's get 39 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: to this. So Aaron Rodgers, now officially a Pittsburgh Steeler, 40 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: he said this about one of the main reasons he 41 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: chose the Steelers. 42 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 3: I think it starts with Mike Tumblin, and then I've 43 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: been a fan of his for a long time. There's 44 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 3: a few iconic franchises in the NFL. I played for 45 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 3: one of them for eighteen years. This is another one 46 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 3: of those. There's something special about, obviously this area. So 47 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 3: many great quarterbacks are from Pittsburgh. I feel like Pittsburgh 48 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 3: has been a part of my career from the beginning. 49 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, you had me to you did the Pittsburgh has 50 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: been borrowing my career from the beginning. And then you 51 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: try and make some kind of random connection and you're like, yeah, 52 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: I get it. You want to play Mike Tomlin's that 53 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: he's good with the Vets. They have a good defense. 54 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: It's a big name franchise, it's a well run franchise. 55 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: They's been desperately in need of a quarterback, and you 56 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: are just that here's Tomlin talking about Aaron Rodgers' quarterback 57 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: reader's resume. We're excited about him being here. He's excited 58 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: about being here. But we'll make no Bowld predictions. 59 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 4: We're just gonna roll our sleeves up and go to 60 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 4: work and let let our efforts do to talking. 61 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: He's so good. Right. Every Tomlin SoundBite has different words, 62 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: sounds the same, Chase dou Is that fair? Right? We've 63 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: been doing this over twenty years, so we've been doing 64 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: this Mike Tomlin the entirety of his NFL head coaching career. 65 00:03:53,480 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: Every time he he has his the pace seeing is 66 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: always the same. The way in which he formulates a 67 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: read his resume creat line. We could just use that 68 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: as a headline, right. 69 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 4: I think it's the opposite of Belichick. Belichick tried hard 70 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 4: for twenty thirty plus years to be as uninteresting as 71 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 4: possible at the podium. I get the feeling like Mike 72 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 4: Tomlin strives to be interesting. He's like like a TV talent. 73 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 4: That's what we used to tell our athletes over at 74 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 4: FS one. Dare to be interesting. Tom One comes up 75 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 4: with things to say that are interesting when he doesn't 76 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 4: have to. That's that's a rarety in coaching. 77 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was I thought it was really good. 78 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: That was really really good. I don't know if it works. 79 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: Sports radio and sports television we're supposed to have all 80 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: the answers, But I think the honest, honest man of 81 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: me says I don't know if it works. If you 82 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: look at the first half of last year, you'd say 83 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: absolutely not. He's a shall of the player he used 84 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: to be. You look at the second half, you go, 85 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: you know, it probably does work, But you also don't know, 86 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: you know, like what it all looks like. Does he 87 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: stay healthy? Does he want to get hit? 88 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 5: You know? 89 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: One of the things a lot of quarterbacks when they 90 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: get older, even the ones that were okay taking a 91 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: beating when they were younger, they don't want to get hit, 92 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: so they get rid of it quicker, or they just 93 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: throw it away or they dirt it. That's what Aaron 94 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: Rodgers did for a long time. Now apparently he's married, 95 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: So what does that mean. Does he valuing the next 96 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: career or is he like, hey, I'm going to show 97 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: my new wife and any that I'm the same Aaron 98 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: Rodgers and now that I got a year under my 99 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: belt since the Achilles, I'm not scared to get hit anymore, 100 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: and let's just go out after it. But you said 101 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: it perfectly, Jason Stewart strive to be interesting, and the 102 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers are in fact interesting. Like Mike Tomlin's been 103 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: just good enough to keep his job, And a little 104 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: bit of it is like Pittsburgh doesn't fire coaches. You're like, well, 105 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: you know, he's not that been bad and they haven't 106 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: fired there and he haven't been you know, and you 107 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: don't fire coaches, so let's just keep them. But at 108 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: some point you got to do something. And then it's 109 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers where you like you're coming back, but are 110 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: you coming back because you really want to do it 111 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: or you think it could be cool, or you think 112 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: it's a great way to end your career, or you 113 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: want to do it because you want to win a 114 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: super Bowl and you think they're that close. Again, I'm 115 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: supposed to sit here and tell you definitively it will work, 116 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: it won't work, And I don't know. I think the 117 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: likeli it is that it's a slightly better version of 118 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: what they had last year, which the last couple of 119 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: years they've been right about five hundred. If you're a 120 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: slightly better version, you're a playoff team. You might win 121 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: a playoff game. Do they win a Super Bowl? No? 122 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: Are they better? Yeah? Is he better quarterback than the 123 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: options that they've had in the past couple of years? 124 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? 125 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: Does that mean he's old? Aaron Rodgers probably not that 126 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: that's my best guess, but if nothing else, it's interesting. 127 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting. And I think Aaron Rodgers also 128 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: nails that. By the way, Jason Stewart with the you know, 129 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: he always shows up different haircut. Now he's got a 130 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: wedding ring on. And then you're like, am I allowed 131 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: to ask about the wedding ringum or not? Sammy? What 132 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: do you got? You got something different? 133 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 6: Well, you know, you look at the Steelers and they've 134 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 6: managed to finish above five hundred all these years under 135 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 6: Tomlin and with varied quarterback play Roethlisberger and then sort 136 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 6: of a rotating you know, carousel QBS. I kind of 137 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 6: look at this as you've you've got a pretty competent quarterback. 138 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,119 Speaker 6: Now you should win your first playoff game. You should 139 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 6: get to the playoffs and win your first playoff game. 140 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 6: And I think, like, since like twenty sixteen, I feel 141 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 6: like it could pop. It could pop a little bit 142 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 6: for the Steelers this year because you know what, someone 143 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 6: helped me out. I don't remember they finished they made 144 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 6: the playoffs last year. I know they finished above five hundred, 145 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 6: that's still intact. I don't remember who their quarterback. 146 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: Was Russell Wilson. 147 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, that's right. 148 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, well he was, yes, and he's a step up 149 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 6: from you know, maybe some of the other guys they've 150 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 6: had after Ben. But and yeah, they a bowed out 151 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 6: in the first round. I do remember that now. 152 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 7: But I think they could. I think they could take 153 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 7: a it could take a step. And that's obviously Justin Fields, 154 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 7: just for Justin Fields. 155 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: And then Russell Wilson as he got back from injury. 156 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: And before that it was Kenny Pickett. Before that it 157 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:29,679 Speaker 1: was Mason Rudolph who's backs as the backup, and Mason 158 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: Rudolph had replaced Kenny Pickett and led them to the 159 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: playoffs was it the previous year? Right, So they've been 160 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: right there in the hunt and if he's slightly better, 161 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: they should be more than in the hunt. That's that's 162 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: that's I think the reasonable thinking. 163 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 7: And they have DK metcalf right again. 164 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: I don't know how good any of this is. I 165 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: just know that I'm interested, and as Jason nailed it, 166 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: like that's all we can hope for. They're not going 167 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: to be the great team ever, They're not going to 168 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: be even the Patriots that went at and zero but 169 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: they will definitely be interesting. I even think Aaron Rodgers 170 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: showing up with a wedding ring on I was like, 171 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: that is so perfect, so great are You're like, wait 172 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: are you? Are you married? Now? I mean, that guy 173 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: just totally understands how to mess with people, so really. 174 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 4: So he confirmed yesterday that he's been married a couple months. Yeah, 175 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 4: and I think and I'm not the only one who 176 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 4: thinks this, but I really do think he said that 177 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 4: a couple months ago just to rub it in that 178 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 4: I've done something humongous in my life and you guys 179 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 4: knew nothing about it. So take that. 180 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: That's who he is, right it is. It just tracks 181 00:09:53,800 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: as Aaron Rodgers. It's so good. I completely agree with you, Jason, Like, 182 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: it's not that he We're not saying that he's not 183 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: in love and he didn't want to get married. It's 184 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: just the idea of only Aaron Rodgers can be, you know, 185 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: unpack McAfee's show, rumors about his past dating history, rumors 186 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: about stories about him playing, everybody wondering about where he's 187 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: going to play this year, and haha, I got married 188 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of months ago, and you guys had no 189 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: idea That's where I say he's the master of messing 190 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: with people. 191 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 8: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 192 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 8: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on 193 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 8: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio. 194 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: App Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. So Antonio Daniels 195 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: is going to join us up coming in six minutes. 196 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: Six minutes to Antonio Daniels. But there's lots of talk about, hey, 197 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: what's like the most important game in the series, My 198 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: personally most important game obviously, like it's coaches cliche, but 199 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: your next game is the most important game. But right now, 200 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: Indiana has home court advantage. Okay, because they won Game 201 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: one in Okama City, they have home court advantage. So 202 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: I viewed Game three as incredibly important because in terms 203 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: of pressure, is it on Oklahoma City. Yeah, yeah, but 204 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: you got to figure that they're thinking, hey, we get 205 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: two bites of the apple at this We just we 206 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: got to get a split. I feel like tonight is 207 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: more important to Indiana, mostly because they've only led for 208 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: like what point three seconds in this series where it 209 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: seems like it and home court advantage again, the ability 210 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: to end this thing in Game six regardless of what 211 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: happens at five, is is paramount? Where are you in 212 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: the importance of Sight's game? 213 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 2: I mean it's important, but even before this year we started, 214 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 2: I was I actually did take a step back to 215 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 2: try to figure out what is the most important game 216 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 2: in a series. Obviously Game seven is is important with 217 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 2: the circumstances, yes, but I actually think that Game four 218 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 2: is the most important because either way a team's going 219 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: to be two to one, three to zero could close 220 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: out the series tonight. What I find interesting is the 221 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 2: home court advantage aspect of it, because I think that 222 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: there's a feel that Oklahoma City found their legs and 223 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: that Oklahoma City now is in that groove. And while 224 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: they let Game one slip away, they did not let 225 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 2: Game two slip away. But all the games aren't played 226 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 2: in Oklahoma City, and so tonight to see how they 227 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 2: will respond to that, I think is a is a big, 228 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 2: big piece of it. So to your point of saying 229 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 2: tonight is important, I think it's fair, But I actually 230 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: think it's important on the Oklahoma City side, because if 231 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: there is momentum carried over from games two to Games 232 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 2: three to Game three, then they would seem to have it, 233 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: and if the Pacers win tonight, I think Indiana's got 234 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 2: to feel really good knowing that they still have home court, 235 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 2: to your point, but also have an opportunity to be 236 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 2: up to one in the series they know the series, 237 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 2: or go back to Indiana, So maybe they could play 238 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 2: free in game five if it went to Oklahoma City. 239 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: So I think it's on the thunder tonight. 240 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: Pressure wise, Sam just told me the Pacers had lost 241 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: Game three in each of their series. I didn't know that, 242 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: Jay Stu, You're the one who searches for interesting. What's 243 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 1: interesting about tonight? 244 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 4: I was hoping Dan Bayer would deliver a SoundBite right 245 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 4: there that would go viral, like West Friday when he 246 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 4: predicted what would happen in Game one. So I'm gonna 247 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 4: listen to that back and see if we could maybe 248 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 4: repost what he says today because he has been kind 249 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 4: of the what do you call that the nonstra dramas 250 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 4: of this particular series. 251 00:13:58,520 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 7: I don't know or. 252 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 2: Care my Wheelhouse, absolutely. 253 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 4: I don't know who cares or I don't care who 254 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 4: wins tonight. I really don't. But what I am interested 255 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 4: in is can the Pacers not get down twenty again? 256 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 4: That's all I'm asking of them because Sunday's game was 257 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 4: so pathetic and I think people left the game in 258 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 4: droves before the first half started or second half started. 259 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 4: I just root for a good game. I know that's 260 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 4: not very interesting, but I just want a good game something. 261 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay again, Jay Stu, I actually depend upon you 262 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: for the person who searches for interesting And it's not 263 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: a high bar, but you're right right. Like, honestly, Game 264 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: one wasn't a great game to watch. Now, the last 265 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: three four minutes were amazing, but you had to make 266 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: it through those first forty five minutes to get there. 267 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: In Game two was a complete snooze fest. It just was. 268 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: It wasn't christly played. It didn't look like Indiana was 269 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: anywhere near as competitive as one would think when you 270 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: get to the NBA Finals. It was just a snooze fest. 271 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's it's I'm with you. I just I 272 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: need a game where I go like, man, that was 273 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: a good basketball game. But I do think that tonight 274 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: is most important to the Pacers that I get it. Dan, 275 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: I feel like you found your legs And remember when 276 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City lost to the Miami Heat in five they 277 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: won Game one, so there's a little bit of a 278 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: flipping of the thing. But I still think Oklahoma City 279 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: believes knows they're the better team. I think for Indiana 280 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: to have any chance in the series, they have to 281 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: win tonight, have to have to have enough. It's Doug 282 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: Otlieb show Fox Sports Radio. He's the NBA champion and 283 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: he's a tremendous analyst. You also hear him on Serious 284 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: SEX MNBA Radio. He's Antonio Daniels, who's the color voice 285 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: of the New Orleans Pelicans. Plus of course, uh he 286 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: covers all NBA when he joins US or you hear 287 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: him on Serious XM NBA Radio. Ten. I look, any 288 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: game in which you play in is gigantic. You've been 289 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: an NBA Finals before, do you? Is there a team 290 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: that you think tonight is bigger for than the than 291 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: the other team? 292 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 5: For me, I think it's bigger for the Indiana Pacers 293 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 5: because I think either team has played well in the 294 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 5: first two games. But when you look at the style 295 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 5: of the Indiana Pacers, how fast they play, their identity, 296 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 5: they have not been that version of themselves, and I 297 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 5: think they need to show that that's even a possibility. 298 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 5: Is that even like, is that even realistic to think 299 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 5: that this Indiana Pacers team that we've seen all year 300 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 5: long conte war of attrition versus all these other teams, 301 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 5: is that possible versus Oklahoma City Thunder. I think this 302 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 5: game tonight and two games in Indiana mean a lot 303 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 5: more to the Indiana Pacers than they do to the 304 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 5: Oklahoma City Center. 305 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 1: Okay, game two because of the ne m heart match up, 306 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: felt like they put Shaye in the post. You know, 307 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: he barkleayd into the post and Oklahoma Sady had great 308 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: success with it, both on kickout threes and with Shaye 309 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: shooting a better percentage. If you're on Indiana's bench as 310 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: a coach, what's your adjustment to how they move Shae 311 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: into the post? 312 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 5: The thing is, there are only so many adjustments that 313 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 5: you can make, right Like at this time of the year, 314 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 5: Doug Ain, no more surprises. You're not doing anything the 315 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 5: SGA haven't seen. So if that's what they're going to do, 316 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 5: you're either going to bank on him continuing to shoot 317 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 5: the ball like that, or the only other option is 318 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 5: to run someone at him. But you realize when you 319 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 5: run someone at him, now, you're compromising your entire defense 320 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 5: because one of your best on ball defenders will always 321 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 5: be on him. Now the other four guys you're asking 322 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 5: to actually close out and hold the fort down. Good luck, 323 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 5: good luck. Like in this league, you can't stop everything. 324 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 5: You can't. As great as it sounds to say, you 325 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 5: know what, you should be able to do this, and 326 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 5: you should be able to do that, you cannot stop 327 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 5: everything in this league. There are certain things that you're 328 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 5: going to have to live with. And if I'm the 329 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 5: Indiana Pacers, do I start out doubling SGA. 330 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: No. 331 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 5: We saw Game three in Minnesota and how the Oklahoma 332 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 5: City Thunder went to Minnesota and laid an egg. Let 333 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 5: me see what kind of rhythm he's in first before 334 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 5: I decide to start throwing the kitchen seek at him. 335 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 1: Antonio Danis Joni's here on the Doug Otlieve Show on 336 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. How I know, at the end of 337 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: the day, you look at Tyr's Halbert, You're like, oh, 338 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: he had a decent game, but most of that was 339 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: when the game was in the fourth quarter. Yes, right, okay, 340 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: show go ahead. Do you want to expound upon it? 341 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 5: I mean, I agree with my thing is like, there 342 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 5: are certain teams where it's simply just a tough matchup 343 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 5: for you. It's just a tough matchup for you. No 344 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 5: disrespect to Teres Alliburton, but that's just probably the worst 345 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 5: and most difficult team out of all twenty nine other 346 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 5: teams in the league for him individually to match up against, 347 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 5: because they have six guys, six guys that are either 348 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 5: that have first or second team All defensive potential, So 349 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 5: they don't have anybody that you can target. They have 350 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 5: no one on their roster that's playing legitimate minutes that 351 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 5: you can target. You can't say that for the Knicks, 352 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 5: who they have beat. You can't say that for the 353 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 5: Cleveland Cavaliers, who they beat. You can't say that for 354 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 5: the Milwaukee Bucks, who they beat. This Oklahoma City Thunder 355 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 5: team is constructed different. They're different. Whether it's Cason Wallace 356 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 5: or Alice Caruso or Lou Dorg or Jada or Shay Gildens, 357 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 5: Alexander or Aaron Wiggins or Ted Holmgren. They have so 358 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 5: many different guys that they can throw at to reach 359 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 5: Halliburton that make it an extremely difficult matchup for him. 360 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 5: I don't I have a hard time seeing to reach 361 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 5: Haliburton having the impact on this series that he had 362 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 5: on the other series that we just mentioned. I just 363 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 5: don't see it happening because the way that the thunder constructed. 364 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: Stuck Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, let's 365 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: let's get to some of the rest of the NBA staff. 366 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: So there's been three head sitting head coaches. I believe 367 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: that the Knicks have tried to reach out to and 368 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: has been declined by the team that they're under contract with. 369 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: Give me your sense of where the Knicks end up 370 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: in their head coaching search. 371 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 5: I don't. The thing is, though, I don't know what 372 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 5: they're looking for, Like you had a guy in Tom 373 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 5: Thibodeau who took them further than they've been since nineteen 374 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 5: ninety nine. Like, I don't know what they're looking for. 375 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 5: They've done things the right way, incrementally making steps because 376 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 5: you can't skip steps in this league. So last year 377 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 5: they lost in the second round. This year they lost 378 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 5: in the Eastern Graffer's Finals. That's usually the way it goes. 379 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 5: So you get better, right, which makes sense because you 380 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 5: added some different elements. You brought in Michel Bridges, Right, 381 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 5: you re signed og Adaobi, you traded away Julius Randall 382 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 5: and Devincenzo, and you brought in Karl Anthony Towns. So 383 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 5: it's like that takes a minute to mess. So I 384 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 5: don't know what it is that they're looking for. I 385 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 5: have no idea because for me personally on the outside 386 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 5: looking in, I thought Bibbs did a fantastic job. Did 387 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 5: he have a issues? Yes, there is no perfect coach, right. 388 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 5: Should he have trusted his bench more, yes, you know. 389 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 5: Should he had cut back on minutes? Yes? I get 390 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 5: all that, but we know in this league it comes 391 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 5: down to winning and losing. And they advanced all the 392 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 5: way to the Eastern Conference finals and they lost to 393 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 5: the same team back to back years, right, So sometimes 394 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 5: it's simply about avoiding that team to get over the home. 395 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 5: But they didn't give him or bless him or grace 396 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 5: him with that opportunity to do so I don't know 397 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 5: what they're looking for. I don't know about you, Doug, 398 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 5: but isn't that weird to you? Like how a team 399 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 5: can say, I know you're coaching for another team and 400 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 5: you're under a contract, but do you mind if we 401 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 5: talked to him about coming to coach our team. 402 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, it strikes me as super weird, especially when you 403 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: know so much is about relationships and TIBs his previous 404 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: is old agent. It ran the Knicks, so it's like, 405 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: now you're going to get somebody who doesn't have their relationship. Yeah, 406 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: that whole thing is weird, strikes mester. 407 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 5: I thought when they fired Tibbs and we talked about 408 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 5: this on our serious that's a show. Like, you know, 409 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 5: you don't quit a job without having another one. You 410 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 5: don't just quit a job and say like when I'm 411 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 5: sure I'll find something eventually. No, you don't. You stay 412 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,239 Speaker 5: at that job, even though you may not like it, 413 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 5: until you find something to replace it. And when they 414 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 5: fired this, I thought they fired this with the understanding 415 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 5: that they already had somebody in mind that they wanted 416 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 5: to hire, like conversations were already had. Sure, And now 417 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 5: you can see how this has gone. And maybe we 418 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 5: were one hundred percent roll. Maybe they just fired the 419 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 5: is and they wanted to cut tires with him, and 420 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 5: now they're looking which is. 421 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: Different, hard to tell, hard to tell it it. I 422 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: just think they feel like they topped out with him again. 423 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean I agree with it. I'm with you, like 424 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: you get further than you've gotten in twenty five years. 425 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: You know, let the guy kind of see it, see 426 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: it all the way through. But for whatever reason, they 427 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: chose not to. I don't think you can hire anybody 428 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: who hasn't been to an NBA finals, Right, That's where 429 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: Jason Kidd fits it, right. 430 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 5: Uh? 431 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: Do we think that Jason Kidd The idea of Jason 432 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 1: Kidd is he and Yiannis are closed and we're going 433 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: after Giannest? 434 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 5: Yes? Yeah, I think those go hand in hand together. 435 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 5: Like if the Milwaukee Bucks were a team that actually 436 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 5: had financial flexibility moving forward and had good young players 437 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 5: and had draft assets to build around Janis in the future. 438 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 5: Do you think that the New York Knicks are going 439 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 5: after Jason Kidd then I highly doubt it. I don't 440 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 5: think so. But what makes this so attractive for the 441 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 5: New York Knicks is the relationship you just said it 442 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 5: a minute ago, Doug. It's the relationship between Dayton Kid 443 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 5: and Janics. Onto the compo. We know how much Janis 444 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 5: favors Jayson Kidd. So if you can get him in there, 445 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 5: does that now increase your chances and opportunities of acquiring Yannis, 446 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 5: maybe because I have a hard time seeing Janis returning 447 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 5: back to Milwaukee. I heard the report that Wendy put 448 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 5: out yesterday, and with all that being said, I have 449 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 5: the utmost respect for Wendy, but I have a hard 450 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 5: time seeing Yannis because of the future and the layout 451 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 5: of the Milwaukee books, of them keeping him and moving 452 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 5: forward because they can't build around him. 453 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: I agree with you, totally agree with you. You just can't. 454 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: You're you're You're totally stuck. It's a year in which 455 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: you're stuck, and you know, here's a limited number of years, 456 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: and I do think that would I love to see 457 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: Yannis stave Milwaukee forever. Yeah, but I think once you 458 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: open the door to the possibility of leaving, which she 459 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: apparently has, then it's probably run. Its run its course. 460 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 5: This is what happens when team skip steps though, but 461 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 5: when they try this is why I am not a 462 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 5: fan of big two's and big threes, and you know, 463 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 5: basically loading up on two or three guys and not 464 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 5: putting the ancillary pieces around them they need to be successful. 465 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 5: We saw the same thing in Phoenix, so the same 466 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 5: exact thing in Phoenix, and that's why Kevin Durant is 467 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 5: a hot topic now, That's why Giannis Andre Dacoumpo is 468 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 5: a hot topic now. They simply put talent together and 469 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 5: didn't worry about the role players that they were surrounding 470 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 5: the talent with. And now they're stuck financially, lack of 471 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 5: talent and no draft assets moving forward? 472 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: Who do that? I know you're still close to the 473 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: Spurs organization. Haven't been a part of a championship team there? 474 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: What do they want to put around Wemby? 475 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 2: Right? 476 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: What is who's the type of guy they like? Is 477 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: it Kevin Durant somebody they want to put around Wemby? 478 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 5: Because you know what Wemby did is he expotided the process. 479 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 5: I think there was a point when the Spurs drafted 480 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 5: Wemby where they were thinking, like, you know what, we 481 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 5: got a five year window. You know, we got time. 482 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 5: And then Wemby and his rookie year was so much 483 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 5: more impactful and I think better than anyone thought that 484 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 5: he would be, and that exibtized the process. So now 485 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 5: you figured yourself, like, you know what, we can't do, 486 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 5: But we can't go out there and continue to put 487 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 5: all these rookies and young players around Victor wemy Nauma. 488 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 5: He needs to learn how to win quickly. So that's 489 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 5: why they go out and get Chris Paul, That's why 490 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 5: they go out and they get Harrison Barnes, That's why 491 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 5: they go out and get dere and File. So Wimby 492 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 5: being as good as he was, as quickly as he was, 493 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 5: I think he exiblizes the process. Now it's about winning. 494 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 5: It's about winning because it's going to come a point 495 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 5: where Wmby is a free agent and you don't want 496 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 5: to have him in the same situations that we've seen 497 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 5: ever rookies in in the past, where they're even thinking 498 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 5: about or fantasizing about what else is out there. You 499 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 5: want to put him in a winning situation around star 500 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 5: players now to build for the future. I think that's 501 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 5: the biggest thing in San Antonio right now. 502 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: That's the one and only Antonio Daniels. He's awesome at 503 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: what he does and he's kind of to spend some 504 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: time with us. Antonio dani check him out on serious 505 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: XMNBA radio. Of course you always see him if you 506 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: watch the Pelicans games. Tell him thanks so much for 507 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: joining us. 508 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 5: Bud, I appreciate you, brother, thanks. 509 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 8: Be sure to catch the live edition of the Doug 510 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 8: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. 511 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: It's the Dug Outlib Show Fox Sports Radio. You can 512 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: stream this show and all of our Fox Sports Radio 513 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: shows live twenty four to seven. The new and improved iHeartRadio 514 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: app just searched Fox Sports Radio in the app and 515 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: you stream us live. One of our newest features in 516 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: the app is you can select Fox Sports radios when 517 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: you're presets, just like presets in the old radio. Now 518 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 1: preset Fox Sports Radio the iHeart Radio app, but always 519 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: pop up top of your screen. 520 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 4: Let's Mando had tune bring me back by the way 521 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 4: that that tune brought me back to twenty twenty. Not 522 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 4: a lot of great memories from twenty twenty. But Roddy 523 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 4: Rich and people confuse us, this isn't It wasn't off 524 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 4: Roddy Rich's album. It was off Mustard's album. And like 525 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 4: that song, I must have played a thousand times during 526 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 4: twenty twenty. Thank you Sam for that was right. 527 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: Go ahead. 528 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 7: Rich's quick question? 529 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 2: Was Roddy Rich named after Rod Roddy, the former voice 530 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: guy at the Price is right? 531 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 4: I think so? 532 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 2: Okay, that's what That's what I thought too. 533 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 4: A lot of people that that's one of them, actually 534 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 4: one of the most people. It's one of the most 535 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 4: underreported things, is that Roddy Rich saying, I also think 536 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 4: that I'm not going to google that one. There being 537 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 4: a descendant from the man who invented basketball playing in 538 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,719 Speaker 4: the NBA Finals gets underreported, like they don't make a 539 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 4: big deal enough about. 540 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 5: That. 541 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 7: Is that is a yeah fact? 542 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 2: I it's Nie Smith. People, it's Nie Smith. 543 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 7: It's an unreported fact. 544 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: It's Nate Smith. 545 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 7: It's it's he dropped the eye in there. 546 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: He did, he did. It's Doug gotlib show on Fox 547 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 548 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 7: Same guy, this is the same family. 549 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: This is sarcasm. Let's get to Dan Byer with a game. 550 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 8: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. 551 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 2: At all right, it's an opportunity for Doug to crap 552 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 2: on someone or something. Uh, it's a game. We like 553 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 2: to call for better or worse, but Doug never takes 554 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 2: the opportunity, always takes the glass half full instead of 555 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 2: the glass half empty. Doug's gotta tell me what is 556 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 2: better or worse? In a topic and a showdown of 557 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 2: I guess two subjects, if you will, Doug, we start 558 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 2: out for better or worse NBA City. Now this is 559 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 2: city as a whole, Oklahoma City versus Indianapolis. What is 560 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 2: better or worse than the other? 561 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 5: Oh? 562 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: Wow, ah, there is zero. I mean, look, Indianapolis is worse. 563 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: It's worse, and there's great parts of Indianapolis, but there's 564 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:45,959 Speaker 1: kind of some randomness to Indianapolis as well. Right. I 565 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: love the suburbs of Indianapolis, especially the northern suburbs Carmel. 566 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: Got friends that live in Carmel. Carmel, but there's some 567 00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: there's some shadiness to Indye. Oklahoma City is actually kind 568 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: of awesome. I saw David aldertro an article I read 569 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: earlier this morning, and it was about the growth of 570 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: the city around the growth of the team. And I'm 571 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: telling you, if you like, Midtown's are really good, cool area. 572 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: Bricktown's better than it used to be. But it's you know, 573 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: it's just a place to go out. But there's lots 574 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: of different areas that have really been reinvigorated because of 575 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: Devon Energy and the energy boom, but also because of 576 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: the thunder. So I think it's Oklahoma City It's honestly 577 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: a super underrated city and a little bit like Phoenix. 578 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: It has massively grown since COVID because the cost of 579 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: living was so inexpensive and people in other places like 580 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: I can get what for what and actually have a 581 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: little land. So yeah, Oklahoma City. 582 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 2: All right? Doug for better or worse? Basketball Finals? NBA 583 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 2: Finals versus Final Four. 584 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: I mean the NBA Finals is worse. So spread out 585 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: you don't know if you're catching a good game. The 586 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: ending of Game one was awesome, but Game two is 587 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: a hard watch. Whereas though there occasionally are two games 588 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: in the Final four, you get another one like a 589 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: day and a half later. You can't beat the funal four. 590 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 2: All right, Doug for better or worse? Kevin Durant Western 591 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 2: Conference options? Right now, it's a three team showdown. We 592 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 2: think Rockets versus Spurs versus Timberwolves. What is the better 593 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 2: or worst option here for Kevin. 594 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: Durant Rockets versus Spurs. 595 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 2: Versus I think Spurs. 596 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: I mean, just can you imagine a team with him? 597 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: And when Manana and the same team, You're like, wait, 598 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: we're playing against aliens? Is that what we're doing? We're 599 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: playing against aliens? Two human beings that are not supposed 600 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: to be that talented, that skill, despite the fact that 601 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: they are, you know, seven feet and seven foot twelve. 602 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they got the number two pick. You also 603 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 2: have Daron Fox there they haven't They have young players 604 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 2: that you could deal all right, Doug for better or worse, 605 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 2: Kevin Durant, East Options, Heats Versus Nicks. Those are the 606 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 2: other two teams mentioned in Chams report. 607 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: I want the Knicks to happen, obviously, you know they 608 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: need more perimeter scoring. I wish he would have gone 609 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: to the next last time around. I think Kevin Durant 610 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: is He's not Lebron, but he's next year down. He's 611 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: as good a player as any we've had in any generation, 612 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: and I think he has tremendous work ethic from everything 613 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: I've been told, I'd love to see him in New York. 614 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: And you know, if he can bring a title to 615 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: New York, imagine the claim he would get. Whereas I 616 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: truly believe that he miscalculated. He thought, Hey, I go 617 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: to Golden State, Golden State needs me, We win some 618 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: titles and people finally see how great I am. Instead, 619 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: it just wasn't met with the same positivity that I 620 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: looked at and I think he looked at it with. 621 00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 2: All Right, Doug for better or worse head coach em 622 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 2: Udoka versus Tom Thibodeaux Thibbideaux, if you will. 623 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: That's always confusing, right, it's TIBs, but it's but it's 624 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: spelled Thibbs, and people say Thibideau, but then they call 625 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: him coach TIBs. It's very confusing. Uh, well, that's a 626 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: hard one. 627 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 7: I say, Thom Thibideau. 628 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 2: Do you think if he was a th h O M. 629 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with them. Had better success with the 630 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: Celtics and has had really good success with the Rockets 631 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: so far. 632 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 2: This on the heels of the next obviously firing TIBs 633 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 2: and requesting the opportunity to speak with Udoka and Chris 634 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 2: Finch and the into the News today Jason Kidd, which 635 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 2: all three were denied. The Knicks were. But it's an 636 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 2: interesting coaching dilemma, all Right, Doug switching gears, moving away 637 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 2: from basketball for better or worse? Golf? Major US Open 638 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 2: versus the Open aka British Open aka the Open Championship. 639 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 2: What is better or worse? 640 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: Uh? The US Open is better? 641 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 2: Okay, it's better. 642 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: The only thing that like, I get that it's different. 643 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: It's linksy style, it's how golf's was supposed to be played. 644 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: I get all that. The only thing I really like 645 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 1: about the Open Championship is you wake up and it's on, 646 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,280 Speaker 1: you know, Whereas here in the States you gotta especially 647 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: West Coast, you wake up and it's on. Whereas US 648 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: Open you gotta wait and like all, you know, major 649 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: championship since in the afternoon into the evening. So otherwise 650 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: I love it. I love that it's like a nearly 651 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 1: impossible course. Rory apparently shot eighty one on it last week. 652 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: I love the US Open, all right. 653 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 2: Finally, Doug, for better or worse, Rogers Jersey, Rogers in 654 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 2: the Steelers Jersey or Rogers in the Jets Jersey. 655 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 1: Steeler Jersey, Steeler Jersey more historic and obviously four plays 656 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,839 Speaker 1: in he tears as Achilles ten and Steelers Jersey. 657 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 2: They got to change that font though for the number. 658 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: Yeah it's weird. 659 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 2: It looked weird. 660 00:35:58,680 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it does look weird. 661 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 2: You're right, and that's game time. 662 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 8: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. 663 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 1: You'll never guess who top player sales for jerseys in 664 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: the NFL, and what's the meaning behind it? Part of 665 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: the Midway next to The Doug Gotlieb Show.