WEBVTT - Second Date Update PODCAST: The Wailing Games

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<v Speaker 1>Brooking Jubels second d It's important to be a good friend, unless,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, that friend ruins your chance at getting some action,

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<v Speaker 1>then you should cut them out of your life. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I think. And in today's second date update, that's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what it sounds like happened to Jay, who's on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone right now. Jay wants to call a girl

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<v Speaker 1>named Michelle and she's not calling him back after one

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<v Speaker 1>of his friends apparently ruined his date. How you doing, Jay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing all right right now, guys, Why don't you

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<v Speaker 1>tell us what happened? Well? I met Michelle online, so

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<v Speaker 1>I saw her profile, and her profile did stand out

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<v Speaker 1>to me a little bit because, like, she just came

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<v Speaker 1>off as so I don't willing go down to earth. Okay, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you were going. I thought you were going

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<v Speaker 1>willing on that one. But that's what I usually look

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<v Speaker 1>for in a a woman. Dude. It's actually kind of refreshing

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<v Speaker 1>to hear a guy I say that her profile stood

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<v Speaker 1>out not because of how much boob she had in

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<v Speaker 1>the picture. Yeah, you know, it's right, because I like

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that she had like a lot of pictures

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<v Speaker 1>with her family. But the truth is she also had

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<v Speaker 1>a really nice set of boots too, everything that you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for. So she seems like she's normal, she seems

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<v Speaker 1>like a nice girl. So I messaged her and she

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<v Speaker 1>messaged me back, and we kind of hit it off,

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<v Speaker 1>and we notched back and forth for a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks and we set up a date finally. Now what

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<v Speaker 1>you do on the day your email said that your

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<v Speaker 1>friend actually ruined it for you. Well, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>first date. So we decided to do just something like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, low pressure casual, just to meet up for

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<v Speaker 1>drinks at a bar after work. So I was like

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<v Speaker 1>getting ready to go and meet her, and then one

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<v Speaker 1>of my co workers who's a friend as well, he

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<v Speaker 1>comes and tells me like this awful story about how

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<v Speaker 1>he just got dumb by his girlfriend. Okay, so you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are at work and he's given you a sob story. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he's actually pretty devastating, like he was like

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<v Speaker 1>crying and stuff. So you're like, hey, yeah, yeah, your

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<v Speaker 1>story is cooling everything, But I got a date right

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<v Speaker 1>now with a girl who will hopefully be my girlfriend. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're standing in my way. Well, there's definitely a part

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<v Speaker 1>of me that I was thinking that I know, I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't leave him. I mean, he was literally crying. I

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<v Speaker 1>just couldn't just like bail on him. So I was

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<v Speaker 1>like panicking a little bit. I'm like, what am I

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do? I can't abandon him. So I texted Michelle

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<v Speaker 1>and I asked her, listen, my friend, you know he

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<v Speaker 1>just got dumped. Is it okay if I bring him along?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, why wouldn't you just reschedule with her? That

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<v Speaker 1>seems smart, you know, looking back, maybe, but it's just

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<v Speaker 1>like our schedules were like so conflicting for so long.

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<v Speaker 1>It's taking me two weeks for us to get together,

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<v Speaker 1>so I wouldn't really wanted to happen. And I just

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<v Speaker 1>thought this, like he would come along, we would have

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<v Speaker 1>a few drinks, and we will be able to just

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<v Speaker 1>break away and like he would go home and that

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<v Speaker 1>would be fine, you know, right. Was she cool about

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<v Speaker 1>you bringing him along? She said? Yeah. So we went

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<v Speaker 1>up and we met and we all had some drinks.

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<v Speaker 1>And every time I thought we were going to break

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<v Speaker 1>away and pull the cord and ditch the single loser, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just like he was. You know, he just kept breaking down,

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<v Speaker 1>like we could not just help with the sand. We

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<v Speaker 1>just couldn't shake him. So he was like trying. When

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<v Speaker 1>you guys were out drinking, she was sobbing. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean at this point he was kind of like this

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<v Speaker 1>whimperish sobbing and what do you do? That's awkward? Was

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<v Speaker 1>she trying to comfort him too? She was just trying

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<v Speaker 1>not to say anything that would make things worse, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't know the guy, so she was just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to say, you know, just bee all neutral and just

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<v Speaker 1>be like it's gonna be okay. And I guess you'd

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<v Speaker 1>probably get points because you look like a really caring friend,

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<v Speaker 1>which is always a positive. But were you ever able

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<v Speaker 1>to just talk to her? Yeah? See that's the thing. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>after like two hours, she was pretty much kind of like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she just said I gotta get going and

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<v Speaker 1>she needed to go, and I was like, all right, um,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm guessing your date ended with a passionate kiss

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<v Speaker 1>right in front of this guy. It was like the

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<v Speaker 1>awkward kind of like shoulder bump hug thing. Um like

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It was just a polite hug, good vibe, right, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And have you heard from her since the date? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>What I did watch when I finally got home that night,

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<v Speaker 1>I sent her a text asking her if we could

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<v Speaker 1>try it again, just hit the reboot button, reset button,

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<v Speaker 1>and just try it again, just the two of us

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<v Speaker 1>this time. Yeah, And she texted back that she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think it was going to work out or it was

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<v Speaker 1>a good idea. I mean, I mean, that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>messed up. Though she's blaming you for I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not an ideal situation. I get it. But you think

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<v Speaker 1>that she'd give you another chance? Yeah, I I thought

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<v Speaker 1>she was kind of see the whole thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to do the right thing for my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>And I even texted her asking her, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>is there a reason why? Like if she could just

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<v Speaker 1>like at least tell me why. But she never even

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<v Speaker 1>texted me back after that. So that's all you've heard

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<v Speaker 1>from her. I don't think it's gonna work out? Why? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the last thing I heard from her, And

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<v Speaker 1>she never got back to me. And now I'm like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I spent two weeks we really connected online,

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<v Speaker 1>we had the chemistry, and I it's like, I just

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<v Speaker 1>blew it. Have you murdered your coworker yet? Well? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like his girlfriend dumped him like kind of ruined

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<v Speaker 1>two relationships. Yeah, exactly. You two can cry together now

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<v Speaker 1>it's your cubicles at work. All right. Oh that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I really don't want to, you know, I really want

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<v Speaker 1>to make this work. Okay, Well, well play a song,

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<v Speaker 1>come back, call her, and then get your second date update.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, all right, thanks guys. Yeah, man, hold on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Five looking cubil in the morning. I'm actually surprised that

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that's on the phone to do a second

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<v Speaker 1>date update today isn't getting a call back because normally

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<v Speaker 1>uncontrollable crying on a first date always works for me.

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<v Speaker 1>But then again, it usually happens in the bedroom, and

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<v Speaker 1>they never made it to the bedroom. They were just

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<v Speaker 1>in a bar. So you should have had your date

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<v Speaker 1>in a bedroom, Jay, and it might have worked out

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<v Speaker 1>better for you. I'll try to keep that in behind

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<v Speaker 1>for the advice if you're just tuning in and don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm talking about. Jay went out with a

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<v Speaker 1>girl named Michelle that he met online. The only problem

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<v Speaker 1>was right before he was about to go on his date,

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<v Speaker 1>a coworker friend of his came up to him and

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<v Speaker 1>said that his girlfriend left him and he was like

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<v Speaker 1>in tears and everything else, and so Jay was like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, well you can come along with me. He

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<v Speaker 1>asked the girl if it was okay to bring the dude.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like sure, And I think Jay was hoping

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<v Speaker 1>that the guy would eventually get lost, but instead he

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<v Speaker 1>spent two hours with them. On Jay's first date with

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<v Speaker 1>this girl, crying and sobbing and just talking about how

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<v Speaker 1>his life was over because his relationship ended. And she

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't talked to Jay since except for telling him that

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<v Speaker 1>is not going to work out. All right, Jay, you're

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<v Speaker 1>ready to get her on the phone? Yes, definitely. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>she just realized that relationships aren't worth it and it's

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<v Speaker 1>better to be single than put yourself through that heartache.

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<v Speaker 1>Or maybe she got his number instead of yours and

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<v Speaker 1>they've been seeing each other ever since she felt bad

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<v Speaker 1>for him. That'd be a smooth, smooth move by that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>If you could get a date after crying for two hours,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds like the greatest scheme ever. If you did that,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd let him have her actually come in and for it.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I'm a dollar phone of her right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go? Helloh, can I speak to Michelle please,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't Michelle. Hey, Michelle, how are you? This is Jewel

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<v Speaker 1>from Brook and Jewel in the Morning, Brook and Jubil

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<v Speaker 1>like the radio show. Yeah, just like that. How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm much better now, you guys me. I'm nothing just

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<v Speaker 1>calling people that. Obviously you listen to the show. That's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just calling a check with people, see how they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's part of our servant. Yeah right, I'm actually calling

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<v Speaker 1>you because somebody emailed us about you. Oh god, telling

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<v Speaker 1>me this is not a freaking second date update. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to do that, but it is a second date update.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god. And you recently went out with a guy

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<v Speaker 1>named Jay. Oh my god, you're calling me about ja. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I am. Jay emailed us and told us about your date,

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<v Speaker 1>said that it was really awkward because his co worker

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<v Speaker 1>came along, And then after the date he texted you like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry about that. We should try it again, and

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<v Speaker 1>you texted him back that you weren't interested. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe that he told you all that. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he obviously liked you a lot and wants to see

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<v Speaker 1>you again, So what's the reason that you told him

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't possibly work? Well, he told you how the

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<v Speaker 1>friend came along, right, Yes he did. He said his

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<v Speaker 1>co worker showed up and cried pretty much the time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that is that not enough? So is that the only

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<v Speaker 1>reason that you're not calling him back because of his

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<v Speaker 1>co worker? No, the co worker cried the whole time,

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<v Speaker 1>and to comfort him, he started saying horrible things about

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<v Speaker 1>the girl. I mean, she wasn't even there to defend herself.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, well, you know, she was kind of fat,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can do better. And well it was there

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<v Speaker 1>he was trash talking his co workers X. Yes, he's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you can do better. I mean she has a nice

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<v Speaker 1>set of boobs, that's all. And he was saying this

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<v Speaker 1>in front of you, and what were you doing? I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, I hope it gets better for you.

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<v Speaker 1>There's more out there, can't you give him? I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you could throw up a bone on that one. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like you've never comforted a girlfriend by talking about

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<v Speaker 1>what a loser her X was on a date. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that in front

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<v Speaker 1>of another girl, be like, oh dude, she's a waste,

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<v Speaker 1>saying horrible like she had man hands. You don't want her.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the part where I was like, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>need to leave is when they started asking me for friends,

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<v Speaker 1>because the best way to get over if I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to get under someone else. So he was asking if

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<v Speaker 1>you had any friends that his buddy could hook up day,

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<v Speaker 1>can you call somebody and get them here right away

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<v Speaker 1>so that maybe he can sleep with someone. Really, when

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, I'm going to see you later,

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<v Speaker 1>he actually asked you if you had a friend that

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<v Speaker 1>would sleep with him, yes, and could I get them

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone right now. What was your response to that?

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<v Speaker 1>I was horrified and disgusted, and I tried to extricate

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<v Speaker 1>myself from the situation and said I need to Was

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<v Speaker 1>there like anything enjoyable about the date? I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>was funny on the outside, and I wasn't, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>emotionally involved at that point. Did you ever for once

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<v Speaker 1>think about a friend You're like, oh, I bet you

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<v Speaker 1>she'd do it, and then almost call them. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>not at all. Can't even go there. Okay, So, Michelle,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that it sounds like you're listening to the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know how many second date updates you

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<v Speaker 1>listen to but maybe you forgot that. Jay is actually

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<v Speaker 1>on the other line listening right now. No, I figured

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<v Speaker 1>that was coming. I'm glad that he got to hear

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<v Speaker 1>all that. Oh okay, Jay, you know there. Yeah, I'm here,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty harsh recap. Jay listening to what she just said.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe she's like saying this kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe that I was on the first date

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<v Speaker 1>with you and you solicited one of my friends for sex. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not what I did. That's not what I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I was consoling my friend. That's what I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>about It was not in a nice way. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to know your audience, and I was there. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>just the guys talking. And I'm glad that I got

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<v Speaker 1>to see that side of you before I ventured in

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<v Speaker 1>on a real date. So, well, haven't you ever had

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<v Speaker 1>a friend who just got dumped? I mean, haven't you

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<v Speaker 1>ever broken up with you? And we watched a sad

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<v Speaker 1>movie and I say, oh, sweetie, you'll get better. There

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<v Speaker 1>are better ones out there. Just wait a minute, though,

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<v Speaker 1>But like you, you're telling me you've never had and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know any of your friends who've ever had

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<v Speaker 1>a casual just a hook up after breaking up just

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<v Speaker 1>to feel better about themselves. Told me you might end

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<v Speaker 1>up doing that, but you don't go on a first

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<v Speaker 1>date and ask your date to help you on that mine.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just trying to get you involved so you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't feel left out, that's all. I did not feel

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<v Speaker 1>left out, So thank you. Don't you just want to

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<v Speaker 1>maybe apologize though, and just say the timing was bad? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is like, we got to be realistic.

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<v Speaker 1>She knows what's going on out there. I mean, don't

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<v Speaker 1>be such a prud Okay, Well, you're being at jacks

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to have anything to do with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Weren't I made for each other great? And you were

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<v Speaker 1>just a jack? So I hope nobody goes out with

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<v Speaker 1>you ever again. Yay, Well, this would be a perfect

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<v Speaker 1>time for me to ask Michelle, would you like to

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<v Speaker 1>go on a second date with Jay? Let me think, no, No,

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<v Speaker 1>are you sure? I'm very sure? Okay, Michelle, do you

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<v Speaker 1>have a friend who's a little loose on the moral

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<v Speaker 1>side that would want to go out with him? Will

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<v Speaker 1>you guys seem very loose on the moral side? One?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Hey, Jay, I'm sorry you didn't get a

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<v Speaker 1>second date. But it is like you just went through

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<v Speaker 1>a breakup and I will sleep with you to help

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<v Speaker 1>you feel better. I'm gonna have to say that that's

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<v Speaker 1>a no. I just got turned down too. Everybody's getting

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<v Speaker 1>turned down and nobody's getting laid over it in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Quick word of advice for all the gentlemen out there dating.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're out on a date, do not bad mouth

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<v Speaker 1>women the whole time, and then ask your date if

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<v Speaker 1>she has a friend who's pretty easy and would hook

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<v Speaker 1>up with one of your friends. Shouldn't have to say that.

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<v Speaker 1>I should not have to say that, but unfortunately I do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's broken Jewel in the morning. I'm talking about today's

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<v Speaker 1>second date update. This guy Jay wanted us to call

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<v Speaker 1>a girl Michelle that he went out on a date with.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem with his date was that right before he

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<v Speaker 1>was going on it, one of his buddies that he

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<v Speaker 1>works with came up to him pretty much sobbing heartbroke

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<v Speaker 1>and he had just broken up with his girlfriend and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, right before he was leaving, so he asked

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<v Speaker 1>his date, hey, can I bring my coworker along. He'll

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<v Speaker 1>just be there for a little while, and then he'll

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<v Speaker 1>go on his way, but he's having a tough time,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was cool about it, she was like, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>bring him along. Well, it turns out after we got

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<v Speaker 1>her on the phone and she told us the story

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<v Speaker 1>that during that time, while they were trying to console

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<v Speaker 1>his coworker, he actually was just like bad mouthing the

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<v Speaker 1>guy's ex girlfriend, like saying horrible things about her in

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<v Speaker 1>front of this girl, and then also stopped to ask

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<v Speaker 1>the girl that he was on a date with if

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<v Speaker 1>she had a friend who was, you know, easy enough

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<v Speaker 1>and willing to sleep with this dude in order to

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<v Speaker 1>help him get over his girlfriend, Like, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the best way to get over somebody's to hook up

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<v Speaker 1>with somebody, right, So, do you have any friends out

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<v Speaker 1>there who might just you can call him up right now.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll come over the restaurant, they can know the bathroom

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<v Speaker 1>real quick and get things done. And I surprisingly she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like that. Yeah, I mean, it wasn't a look

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<v Speaker 1>into what could happen if they ever broke up or anything,

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<v Speaker 1>or how he handled his own relationships at all, And

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't understand why she didn't want to go out

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<v Speaker 1>with him again. But a lot of people texting in

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<v Speaker 1>at seven eighty five to nine two understand exactly why

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't want to go out with him again. Remember,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to go out with somebody, if you've

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<v Speaker 1>went out with somebody and they haven't called you back,

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<v Speaker 1>just email the show Brook and Jewil at moving nine

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<v Speaker 1>to five dot com. We will call the person who

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<v Speaker 1>didn't call you back.