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Speaker 1: Also we grew up, we're reading like Harry Potter books

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Speaker 2: I've thus forgot what they called Jim.

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Speaker 3: No, I didn't read that ship.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, Huckleberry called him and word Jim.

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Speaker 3: Nigga Jim, yeah or that word. It was like, I

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Speaker 5: Rory put it down. Chapter one. It's like a mad

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Speaker 5: live You get to fill in the blank. It's like blank, Jim.

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Speaker 5: Roy's like, nope, not me, my good old pal, Jim, this.

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Speaker 1: Book no mistake.

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Speaker 3: Be calm, so numb. Welcome to a new episode of

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Speaker 3: New Rory and Mall. I am Mall, I'm Roy.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry about yelling your ear people. That was just

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Speaker 2: What does that rank on rock songs that black people like.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's top, that's top, that's top ten.

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Speaker 5: Does jay Z doing the collab have a lot of

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Speaker 5: no Jay Stamp.

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Speaker 4: I think it does.

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Speaker 2: I think the Jay Stamp helped, Yeah, but I think

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a great record.

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Speaker 3: Jay only did it because he liked that record. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: can we he liked that record.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's put a Patreon topic to go to top

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Speaker 2: ten rock records that black people like. That could be

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Speaker 2: a Patreon conversation.

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Speaker 5: I like that.

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Speaker 2: Anyways, let's start the episode.

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Speaker 3: How are you feeling, man? I'm cool, you look good?

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Speaker 5: You think so?

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Speaker 7: Some sleep?

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Speaker 2: I did actually get a little bit of sleep. I

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Speaker 2: got a haircut too.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's what I'm sorry. I didn't notice. Do you

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Speaker 3: guys get offended when your friends don't notice it? No?

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Speaker 2: I just my hair was longer than it had ever

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry about that.

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Speaker 2: But a regular haircut, I wouldn't expect you.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 2: The grays were popping out the side like you would

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Speaker 2: not fucking really coming in coming in? No, they're here.

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Speaker 3: Are you embracing it though? Yeah? Men, we don't embrace

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Speaker 2: I don't mind the grays in the beard. They're they're

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Speaker 2: were like that. Oh yeah, No, feeling that it's time

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Speaker 2: to time to get the fade back. Gotta gotta tape

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Speaker 3: Man, I think the gray is kind of like it's

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Speaker 3: it's it's like a stamp. I'd like to let people

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Speaker 5: Salt and ginger.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been here for a while.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's let's make it a race thing.

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Speaker 3: Love it.

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Speaker 2: White people don't do well with kind of gray. We

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like you stretched out.

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Speaker 2: I feel like black people when they get just a

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Speaker 3: I got a few grays in the beard, in the hair.

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Speaker 3: I'm not mad at it. I embrace it.

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Speaker 3: It's not where do y'all.

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Speaker 6: Nastiest things ever, like random people just using the same phone.

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Speaker 2: Putting it on their face.

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Speaker 4: You all use the same toilet, who used the same

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Speaker 5: You sit down, we still use it a urinal yeah,

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Speaker 6: Same as I definitely ship on flights, all flights as wild. Yes,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know because Editing is the guy that if

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Speaker 2: And that's a specific to JFK thing for our international listeners.

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Speaker 3: That's why America's obese.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, drop a heater on the way to Miami.

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Speaker 2: The nastiest thing I ever saw was I'd got off

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Speaker 6: I never understood how people like the first thing they

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not taking a ship.

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Speaker 6: I've never I took a ship one time on the

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Speaker 4: Too, Like no, I mean it's not like I don't

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Speaker 2: And I was just like, Okay, I got a ship,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but sometimes I have breakfast and ship.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm always running late, so that's my I'm always

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Speaker 5: So you forget the ship if I like running, like.

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Speaker 2: Parents, they need to do they did.

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Speaker 3: All they had to do was take a ship. They're like, oh,

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Speaker 6: Well all right, Well, we officially know that it's getting

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Speaker 2: I thought it was stopping frisk.

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Speaker 6: No, I'm a jam lineup has been announced. I don't

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Speaker 6: I'm enjoining the announcement only because we do know it's

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Speaker 3: let's talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's start with some love. Hot ninety seven gets

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Speaker 2: so it's an all New York City lineup. Cool, celebrating

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Speaker 6: This is definitely a New York heavy lineup. New York

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Speaker 6: what does that say about the Summer Jam event? Sixty

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Speaker 2: Maybe I think it just speaks to whatever the budget

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Speaker 2: So it's probably just a nightmare. Even though festivals are

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Speaker 2: I just don't think Hot ninety seven being they're not

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Speaker 2: thing and just give it. Yeah, MS, I think Emma

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Speaker 2: Are they from MS?

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Speaker 4: They're from mister Flex? But yes, I'm sure MS owns the.

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Speaker 2: F flex on your flex flex Nay. Yeah, I just

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Speaker 6: I think the fact that the Summer Jam Festival over

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about what the lineup actually is, and tell

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Speaker 3: The line of Cardi B is headlining. Shout out to

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Speaker 6: Coyler Ray, Glow Riller, Lola Brook, French Montana, Favo, Little TJ.

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Speaker 3: Same thing, it's ot cousin.

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Speaker 6: But so, how ninety seven did the right thing in

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Speaker 4: So now saying that right, seeing how you guys aren't

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Speaker 3: That says a lot about the state of music, the

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Speaker 2: No, I actually think the opposite. I think this speaks

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Speaker 2: Fair. But I'm saying like relevant to the kids, not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't mind. I don't mind Hot ninety

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Speaker 6: Jam not being a New York I mean, obviously support

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was that, you know, for this is the third,

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Speaker 6: So it's like a lot of festivals are popping up

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Speaker 3: They'd rather touch that stage than clauses too.

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Speaker 2: That's what I wanted to get to after we discussed

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Speaker 2: they downsized, It was why did they pick this fucking arena?

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Speaker 2: Do that ship at Barclays, which is used to having

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Speaker 2: Let's not get it twisted. This is in Long Island,

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Speaker 2: New York. Everyone here has a crew, and that crew

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Speaker 2: be honest, easier sneaking the shit. That parking lot is

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Speaker 1: So ry.

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Speaker 2: This is walking distance from Queen's Village.

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Speaker 3: Two weeks ago, one of you can get diced.

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Speaker 2: Two weeks ago, one of the biggest gang raids in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand that.

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Speaker 3: It's a sticky situation.

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Speaker 2: And you have to also understand. Summer Jam, of course,

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Speaker 2: always a Little Dicey in that parking lot of Summer

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Speaker 2: You know how many people are not going to get in?

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Speaker 6: It's gonna be It's gonna be one of those events where,

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you guys gonna go. I would

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Speaker 5: No, there's no at home, no are you?

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Speaker 6: But to be fair, I haven't gone to Summer Jam

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Speaker 2: As also, this is in legitimately a residential neighborhood like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is legitimately.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, people gonna park in those neighborhoods, walk to the arena.

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Speaker 2: It's this is gonna spill all into the This is

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Speaker 1: It's give me a nice ghetto good time.

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Speaker 3: And like, listen people, people, it's gonna be that. For sure.

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Speaker 2: People could say, all right, Barclays Center, it's in Brooklyn, Like,

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Speaker 2: The security shit is fucking insane. Not to say it

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Speaker 2: won't be here. I just don't think UBS has ever

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Speaker 3: The one thing that was gonna the one thing that

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Speaker 6: Ago is the Locks. Yeah, like I thought about it,

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Speaker 6: I'm like, damn the Locks.

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Speaker 2: This staff is used to Islander games. Yeah, like to

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Speaker 3: That was it. That was the draw for me though.

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Speaker 3: The Locks.

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Speaker 6: Like I looked at the lineup, I was like, I

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Speaker 6: I'm think I'm gonna ship out on this one. But

445
00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,320
Speaker 6: it is a good thing that, you know, they be

446
00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,080
Speaker 6: able to put a good lineup together. Shout out the

447
00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,960
Speaker 6: Cardi B headlining. Shout out to Little TJ. You know,

448
00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,280
Speaker 6: he went through a lot of the fact that he's

449
00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,879
Speaker 6: even able to be on the stage and perform in

450
00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,480
Speaker 6: his healthcare again, Shout out to him and shout out

451
00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:41,720
Speaker 6: to you know, just all of the all of the

452
00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,200
Speaker 6: other acts, shout out the loller Brook.

453
00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,840
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. She she's she's popping. She's

454
00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:45,960
Speaker 3: hot right now, that's.

455
00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:46,800
Speaker 2: Another thing to look for her.

456
00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:47,240
Speaker 5: Yeah.

457
00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,280
Speaker 2: I think it's great. I think it's great that Little

458
00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,000
Speaker 2: TJ is on this bill and it's healthy and it's

459
00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:51,720
Speaker 2: able to perform.

460
00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,159
Speaker 3: Yeah. So if nothing else, just congrats to those you know,

461
00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,920
Speaker 3: those acts and those artists.

462
00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,240
Speaker 2: That kind of No, I'm not shitting on Little TJ.

463
00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,840
Speaker 2: I think that that's amazing. But we've seen publicly that

464
00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,760
Speaker 2: there seems to be an internal beef on why he

465
00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:07,280
Speaker 2: was harmed.

466
00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:08,280
Speaker 3: Mhm.

467
00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,359
Speaker 2: Has Little TJ been outside for real since?

468
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:12,919
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so.

469
00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,320
Speaker 6: I mean he's been yet, He's performed, he's hit a

470
00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,439
Speaker 6: couple of stages, but not like really outside of New

471
00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:19,000
Speaker 6: York like that.

472
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:19,840
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't believe.

473
00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,520
Speaker 6: I know that he did a video shoot. Was Ice

474
00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,520
Speaker 6: Spice They did a video shoot. He had got arrested,

475
00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,760
Speaker 6: I think in the mix of all of that. But

476
00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,840
Speaker 6: other than that, I haven't. I haven't heard about Little

477
00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:31,840
Speaker 6: TJ being out out And.

478
00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,200
Speaker 2: I'm not saying Little TJ is a problematic artist that

479
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,919
Speaker 2: shouldn't be booked anything like that. Let's just go off

480
00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,320
Speaker 2: what they've put out. Clearly there is some tension amongst

481
00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,520
Speaker 2: entourages with Little TJ in New York City.

482
00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,359
Speaker 6: He said that what was the what was the festival

483
00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,080
Speaker 6: that year where a lot of the artists had got

484
00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:48,600
Speaker 6: locked up?

485
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,040
Speaker 2: Rolling loud, rolling loud?

486
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:51,800
Speaker 5: Oh God, that was crazy.

487
00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:52,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was sick.

488
00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,400
Speaker 6: Hopefully this year again, nothing like that happens. Hoh, these

489
00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 6: guys got their you know, legal affairs and all that.

490
00:19:58,320 --> 00:19:59,680
Speaker 6: They don't have any active warrants.

491
00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,199
Speaker 2: But if you have an active warrant, you will be

492
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:03,000
Speaker 2: caught at this.

493
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,280
Speaker 6: Oh no, they're gonna catch you before you get inside.

494
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,320
Speaker 6: They're gonna they're gonna be there waiting for you. So

495
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:08,359
Speaker 6: have all your ship together.

496
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:08,800
Speaker 3: Don't be going.

497
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,200
Speaker 6: Don't even go over there if you don't have your

498
00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,000
Speaker 6: legal you know, things to put in order. Your lawyers

499
00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,800
Speaker 6: tell you everything is good. You don't have no active

500
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,200
Speaker 6: warrants and ain't nobody looking for you. If they are,

501
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 6: stay your accid in the house. Don't go over it

502
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,080
Speaker 6: because they're gonna lock you up.

503
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,360
Speaker 2: You cannot escape Belmont easily. Jesus, I'm telling.

504
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 3: You sound like Alcatraz. Yeah, y'all have you been there? Yeah,

505
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:30,720
Speaker 3: I've been. I've been over there. It's been years, but

506
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 3: i've been.

507
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,720
Speaker 2: It's either a Cross Island or resident You can't get out.

508
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 3: Of the traffic. The traffic getting out of Summer Jam

509
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 3: and met life used to be crazy. Oh god, So

510
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 3: imagine what.

511
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 6: It's gonna be like in a residential area with traffic

512
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,680
Speaker 6: lights on every other corner.

513
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 2: And Cross Island is a parking lot on a Tuesday

514
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,880
Speaker 2: at one am. Yeah, let alone at this time.

515
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 6: Well, let's just see how it goes again. Hopefully everybody's safe.

516
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 6: It will be beautiful if all of this goes off

517
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,360
Speaker 6: without any incidents, and you know, hip hop is able

518
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:58,959
Speaker 6: to come together, Summer Jam is able to go off

519
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,679
Speaker 6: without any you know, any crazy shit happening. But I

520
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 6: don't know, man, Something just something feels just a little off,

521
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,479
Speaker 6: a little shaky, just a little shaky. It's like when

522
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 6: you sit in the chair and you like, I feel

523
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 6: like if I sit down too hard, this ship might break.

524
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,880
Speaker 3: It's like one of those it's what matter of fact

525
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 3: you wanted this?

526
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 6: You never sat on the chair and it was like

527
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 6: one of them legs was kind of like one of

528
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 6: those kind Yeah, you're like, nah man.

529
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 2: You know when in Belly when Nas walks out of

530
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 2: the barbershop and sees a Z there with his son,

531
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 2: and then a Z looks around and says, you know,

532
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 2: I'm about to blow done. That's what this feels like.

533
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, this feels like I'm walking to blow. It's definitely

534
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 3: like I'm gonna leave.

535
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 2: This looks very unsafe. It's good to see you, though,

536
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:35,400
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna leave.

537
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 3: You know.

538
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 6: But that that scene was crazy for a number of reasons.

539
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 6: But I understand what you're saying. But either way, shout

540
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 6: out to Summer Jam. It's officially getting warm again because

541
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 6: that's our groundhole in New York City.

542
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 2: So and watch it be beautiful and sunny when they

543
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 2: do it inside.

544
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, you know that that's our life works.

545
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,360
Speaker 2: For those that don't know Jam every single year.

546
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 3: I love the fact that the Summer Jam is a

547
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 3: heavy female.

548
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 2: Presence representation of the times.

549
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I you know, why aren't we Why are

550
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 6: we not pushing other female artists that are maybe just

551
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 6: as if not more talented.

552
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 2: By talent, You just mean by like your opinion of

553
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 2: their talent level. Same talent level moving the same amount

554
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 2: of units or have the same amount of attention.

555
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't put talent behind moving units. I

556
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 3: put that.

557
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 6: I put the units behind, the push, behind the machine,

558
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 6: behind the industry pushing an artists that I don't equate

559
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 6: that to talent. Like I feel like we don't see

560
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 6: Tierra Whack enough. We don't get her on you know, stages,

561
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 6: enough festivals enough, like.

562
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 2: Don't I know, I know, don't you I'm sure will

563
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 2: eventually be on all these lineups once TD wants to

564
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 2: like let her out into the worlds rather than doing

565
00:22:54,680 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 2: averse every eight months. Tira Wack I've seen on festival lineups.

566
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 2: Tara Whack to me is more of a festival act

567
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 2: than say Summer Jam, because Summer Jam tends to lean

568
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,919
Speaker 2: into radio, where Tierra Wack, I don't even think tries

569
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 2: for radio. But a lot of the quote talented female

570
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 2: EMCs wouldn't end up I think on a radio style

571
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 2: festival in this way. But I mean not to say

572
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 2: Tara Wack couldn't be on more festivals, but I have

573
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 2: seen her on them. She does get some looks in

574
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 2: that degree because that the festival crowd isn't the mainstream

575
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 2: radio crowd and they would like Tara Whack, but I

576
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 2: wouldn't see her on a summer jam per se at

577
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 2: this time. I think you have to have like a hit.

578
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 6: No, I'm not, I'm not. I'm not saying just summer jam.

579
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 6: I'm saying, why don't we, you know, see the push

580
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 6: behind of the talented dope female mcs, female rappers.

581
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 2: Well, they don't really necessarily push talented male rappers either,

582
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 2: so there's no way they would push talented female rappers.

583
00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 2: And I'll get misogynistic here. When the quote unquote talented

584
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 2: EMC men get that push, it's because the hip hop heads,

585
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: which are typically male dominated, push that artist. Women don't

586
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 2: support the female EMCs like that from a massive standpoint.

587
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,959
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that they don't, you know, fill up

588
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 2: their own tours, but from a larger sense like this, Yeah,

589
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 2: women don't support female mcs like that. Well, And because

590
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 2: mcs are usually supported by the underground or the hip

591
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 2: hop head or the nerd, whatever the fuck you want

592
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 2: to call it, that's typically male and men, for the

593
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 2: most part, whether we like it or not, don't always

594
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 2: lean into female rappers. We don't but you guys can

595
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 2: all be this amazing people. I understand you all love

596
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,239
Speaker 2: every female artist, but we don't know.

597
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 6: But when did that start though, because there was a

598
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 6: time where, you know, it was all about who's dope,

599
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 6: Like when Kim was out, Kim was Kim, but then

600
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 6: it was Foxy doing her thing. Foxy had her push

601
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 6: the women supported little like there was a time where

602
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,719
Speaker 6: there were a lot of dope MC's.

603
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 3: They didn't sound alike, they didn't look alike, they didn't you.

604
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 6: Know, they had their own everybody had their own wave,

605
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 6: but everybody it seemed like it was more.

606
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 3: Support for the dope female rappers.

607
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 2: Well they also had, But I would say there is

608
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: that as well to the level that Kim and Foxy

609
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 2: were at. I think the female rappers are supported the

610
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 2: way Kim and Foxy were if you're talking about the

611
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 2: lyrical lyrical ones.

612
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: So y'all weren't checking for Kim if she wasn't a

613
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: part of who she was a part of. Y'all weren't

614
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: checking for Eve if she wasn't a part of who

615
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: she was a part of. Y'all weren't checking for none

616
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: of these female rappers if they weren't a part of

617
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 1: an all male crew. That's how they got that push,

618
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: because you supported the entire crew. They were on the features,

619
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: all of these things. These female rappers are not on

620
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 1: an all male crew. They're coming out by themselves. It's

621
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 1: a completely different.

622
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 2: But also I would put Kim more towards a Cardi

623
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 2: Lotto Glorrilla rather than a Tierra whack. And so I

624
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 2: think that Glorilla, Lotto, Cardi are all getting the push,

625
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: the same push that Kim got. Is there a more

626
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 2: lyrical rapper you can think of from the little kim

627
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 2: Era that didn't get.

628
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 3: A push from from the kim Era.

629
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 2: Yeah. Like, but I don't even think Jeanie Ray is

630
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 2: super dope. I just don't even think she even cared

631
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 2: to play the game to get a push. But even then,

632
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 2: to Demarris's point, she was with the all male crew,

633
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 2: she was running around black Star.

634
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I don't think that I don't think that

635
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 6: you need like recruited Queen Latifa come from recruited Irvington.

636
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,239
Speaker 6: I mean, like MC light like there was there was

637
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 6: like it wasn't always like that. It wasn't like female

638
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 6: rappers and mcs didn't always need a cold sign or

639
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 6: a stamp from a male dominant crew like that wasn't

640
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 6: always a thing, but I think happened.

641
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 2: They're getting the most push I think they've ever gotten

642
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 2: right now though. Yeah, but lyrical ones aren't but lyrical

643
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 2: rappers in general dark, No, we don't get that.

644
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 3: You're saying lyrical. I'm just saying more talented, Okay, Like

645
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 3: I'm not just saying it has to be a cool

646
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 3: I'm just saying more talented.

647
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 6: Like, there's a lot of talented female rappers that I

648
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 6: feel like don't get the push that they deserve because

649
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 6: it's like, Yo, she's dope like and her music is crazy.

650
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 2: I mean, Tera Whack is a great example of that

651
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 2: because she one can rap for real, She's very talented.

652
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 2: She makes actual good songs in music. So yeah, I

653
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: don't know what the disconnect is there. I don't know

654
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 2: her personally or what her situations has been within business,

655
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: but that would be one I do agree with. But

656
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: other than that, I think female rappers have gotten the

657
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 2: most push they've ever gotten in their lives. Yeah, matter

658
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 2: of fact, I think some are getting pushes they don't

659
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 2: deserve at all.

660
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 3: No, a lot of them are getting pushes they don't deserve.

661
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: But that's that's what the male rappers too. But that

662
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: can go into the whole conspiracy of hip hop and

663
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: what's being pushed by these record labels. Right, they're not

664
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: pushing talent. They're not the rap that we hear on

665
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 1: the radio these days. Very few artists until like we've

666
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: spoken about our greats that we have from our era.

667
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: These rappers are not talented, they don't have they're not

668
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: talking about anything real or of substance. They're rapping the same.

669
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 5: And she thinks they just moved.

670
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 6: They just moved a summer jam festival from an eighty

671
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 6: two thousand seat stadium to a nineteen thousand seat arena

672
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 6: exactly because it's not you can you can you can

673
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 6: trick the algorithms, you can do the TikTok thing and

674
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 6: all of that, and it looks great on social media

675
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 6: and things like that. That doesn't always translate into people

676
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 6: buying a ticket and coming out, leaving their homes, getting

677
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 6: dressed to come see you on the stage perform. Well,

678
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 6: you know, we'll keep it on the loop and spind it.

679
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 6: Girls will make you know, Instagram reels and things like that.

680
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 6: To these records and things like that. But now when

681
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 6: you say, hey, get dressed and then you know, get

682
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 6: in your car and drive over there and pay money

683
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 6: to go see that artist, they're like, no, I'm cool,

684
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 6: And to me that's an issue.

685
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: Okay, but a lot of what because.

686
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 3: Like, where's the talent?

687
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 6: We get the loop, we get the hooks on a

688
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 6: loop on TikTok and it sounds you know, the caption

689
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 6: is good, but where's the talent?

690
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 3: Though?

691
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: But as an anti TikToker, I will say I would

692
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: rather see that type of shit at a festival or

693
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 2: at an arena than I would some lyrical shit you

694
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: unless there's a difference when we when.

695
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: We went with j Cole did with Dreamville and he

696
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: is a unicorn.

697
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: But so that's my point, Okay, I like still matter.

698
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 2: I like we went to go see Kendrick at Barclays.

699
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: That was a performance in a show catered around all

700
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: his lyrical amazing shit. With these types of festivals and shit,

701
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: you don't get a crazy budget for creative You have

702
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: to couldn't come with trucks unless you're the fucking headliner.

703
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: You get thirty minutes, sometimes twenty, and you're going on

704
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 2: stage sometimes the mics aren't even right, like, but it's

705
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: a hard thing to pull off.

706
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 3: So yeah, give.

707
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 5: Me the.

708
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 6: Don't do that because we know where Summer Jim used

709
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 6: to be sure, we know the level it used to

710
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 6: be at that. We know that the talent that used

711
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 6: to touch that stage, we know the artists that used to

712
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 6: touch that stage.

713
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: But things developed.

714
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 6: Clearly there's been a change in the talent level in

715
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 6: hip hop and in the artistry.

716
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 3: It's been a change.

717
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 2: But this is a recycled convo because I'm sure in

718
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 2: two thousand and three when fifty headlined, there was people saying,

719
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: please get this dumb down, go shoddy, it's your birthday

720
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: ship off the Summer Jam stage. Why is most not

721
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 2: on here? Yep, it's changed because now we now in retrospect,

722
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: fifty is super lyrical. But it's just moving forward like

723
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 2: this is just how it goes. It's gonna be dumbed

724
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: down more and more.

725
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 3: No, I but I do.

726
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 6: I do think that this is a direct result of uh,

727
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 6: the industry being affected by you know, social media impressions algorithm. Yeah,

728
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 6: things like that like this and to and That's what

729
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 6: I'm saying. So now the talent is on display because

730
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 6: now it's a stage. You can't hide behind the algorithms

731
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 6: and the numbers. Now when you know you're talking about yo,

732
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 6: get people to come out to see this artist. Put

733
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 6: this put this artist in the stadium, or we can't

734
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 6: draw these numbers anymore. We gotta we gotta downsize it.

735
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 6: Then clearly that's it's a correlation. It's all I'm saying, Like,

736
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 6: when you have talent, like you said, Kendrick Lamar Coler,

737
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 6: super lyrical, but it's a talent thing. When we went

738
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 6: to that that that that show, you saw the whole.

739
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 6: You got the whole picture of what is an artist.

740
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 6: You understand what I'm saying, Like it's not just yo,

741
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 6: here's a dope twenty seconds of a song or fifteen

742
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 6: seconds of a song on a on an instant on

743
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 6: a social media platform that everybody is posting. It's like, no,

744
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 6: this is a whole thing. This is an actual artist

745
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 6: with talent, talent level.

746
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 5: But we saw we've seen the talented artists pop from

747
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 5: TikTok and then it goes it transitions into the live

748
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 5: shows like this, it's the whole Steve Lacy thing, mm hmm,

749
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 5: that whole when he seemed to be his entire tour

750
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 5: was TikTok fans, and then he's like, you know, he

751
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 5: had the adverse reaction towards it, but I mean there

752
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 5: are benefits.

753
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 3: That's a very, that's a very I know, like he's

754
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 3: he's different.

755
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 5: Like I got get it.

756
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: Lacy was very popular before, oh yeah, absolutely, and putting on.

757
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 5: He's significantly more known now. He's always been a great musicians,

758
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 5: always be putting out greatmusic. But I'm saying like in

759
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 5: terms of talent level, was recognition. Yeah, in terms of

760
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 5: like recognition and popularity, it's TikTok that got him to

761
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 5: that point.

762
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: But also when we went to go see Kendrick, we

763
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 2: wanted that. But if someone's going to see Ice Spice,

764
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: I'm not taking away from her level, but the point

765
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 2: to go to that performance would be the phone I

766
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: get to have Ice Spice actually do it live, when

767
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: I can hold it and wrap along and do the

768
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 2: little Ice Spice dance, I can put on my TikTok

769
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 2: me seeing her like, that's the that's the point of

770
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: going to an Ice Spice performance.

771
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 5: The bendover and White, that's the whole you want.

772
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: That you're going so you can put that you want

773
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: with ice spice behind you.

774
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but everybody, Yeah, but how but obviously.

775
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 5: That's what you want.

776
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's like, but it's it's they had to

777
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 6: downside significantly. And I don't tell about sixty thousand less seats.

778
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: But but that's that's not that's not good. That's not

779
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 2: a good comparison because I think that's a Hot ninety

780
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: seven thing and budget because clearly we see performance and

781
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: festivals are getting bigger rather than downsizing. This I think

782
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: is a personal radio MS communications issue and just sponsorships,

783
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: like everything around the Hot ninety seven brand, which is

784
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 2: just a radio thing in general with hip hop.

785
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: And as far as talent, when it comes to women rappers,

786
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: Let's be honest, y'all. And when I say y'all, I

787
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: mean men in general, not y'all in this room. Y'all

788
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: support the women. Y'all support the women that bend over

789
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: and shake their their asses. People all the time say, oh,

790
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: Meg raps about the same thing. But when Meg Meg

791
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: is an extremely talented rapper, when she gets into her

792
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: wrapping bag, nobody wants to hear that shit. Y'all want

793
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: to hear her rap about pussy y'all want to see

794
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: her torque and bend over. That's what sells. So if

795
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: you want to make money in this in this era

796
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: of music, you have to rap about what people are

797
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: going to support. Minim misogynistic. If you're not rapping about

798
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: pussy and shaking your ass, they're not supporting it.

799
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: No, this is where you're wrong. We don't want Meg

800
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: to rap about pussy. We like watching women. We like

801
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: rap along to Meg rapping about pussy. I don't sit

802
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: there and go God, I hope Meg gives me another

803
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: pussy bar.

804
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 3: I like the reaction, well, particularly I do. Oh, I

805
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 3: can't wait for it.

806
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: I like the reaction when I'm out or whatever at

807
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: an event, seeing women react to the women rappers. It's fun,

808
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 2: it's a great environment. It's it's something I enjoy. I

809
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 2: don't know if that makes me creep, but I don't

810
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 2: think so.

811
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: Women aren't gonna react the same when we rap it

812
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: about when she's on it, wrap it about real shit.

813
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: Women aren't gonna react to same. They're not gonna play

814
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 1: that because you can't, because.

815
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 2: We don't see it. You got to give me your

816
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 2: sixteen rather than the pussy sit right.

817
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 6: You got you talking to somebody that you're talking to

818
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 6: somebody that saw exactly what Little Kim's hardcore did like

819
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 6: and those was pussy bar. She was talking crazy all

820
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 6: through it out, but it was still a certain talent level.

821
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 3: It was still the music was still.

822
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 2: Big, was right in her mind.

823
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 6: Regardless of who was writing it, she was delivering it

824
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 6: for ther whole look that aesthetic everything, and it was

825
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 6: just like, Yo, the music was dope.

826
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 3: You understand I'm saying. It's like the music now is.

827
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 6: Like you get a bar and then you get something

828
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 6: in the hook and then it's like all right, but

829
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 6: what else?

830
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 3: Now? You know what I'm saying.

831
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 6: So now you're trying to ask people to come out

832
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 6: to see that live, see that's going You might get

833
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 6: them a couple of times, but they not gonna keep

834
00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 6: coming to see that.

835
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 2: But you're right with the deliver. Like we like Kim

836
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 2: because of her delivery and her attitude on the songs.

837
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 2: And I think that's the same reason we like the

838
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 2: female rappers now. They deliver really well. They the way

839
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 2: they say simple ship sounds fire Kim. I didn't just

840
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: listen to a Kim album by myself, Like there have

841
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: to be some women around for me to want to

842
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 2: bump Little Kim. Oh no, Like besides, I just don't

843
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: know if I'm no.

844
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 6: We were listening for Kim with record Little Kim Hardcore

845
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 6: album was playing the Foxy album like we was playing

846
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 6: because they was really they was spitting, it was really rapping.

847
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: So he was just chilling in your crib alone, just

848
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 2: just more headphones on IM just banging out to Little Kim.

849
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 6: I definitely used to definitely used to go to school,

850
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 6: like on the train with my walk in on my

851
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 6: headphones on listening to tonight.

852
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 3: I mean I wasn't. I wasn't singing along. It's like

853
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 3: it was playing, you know what I mean, Like Foxy's album.

854
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 3: It was playing for sure. Absolutely you wanted to with

855
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 3: the beat, huh. I didn't want no problems with the

856
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 3: p at all. I still don't. I don't want no problems.

857
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 6: I'm just saying it's a certain level to me, Like

858
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 6: I said, the music industry is affected by social media

859
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 6: platforms because now it's not about talent, it's about king

860
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 6: just catch a good fifteen seconds in a song that's

861
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 6: gonna go viral that the kids are going to love.

862
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 6: So that's what I'm saying now it's starting to affect

863
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 6: other areas of entertainment.

864
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 5: Sure, because of TikTok videos in the fifteen second cycle,

865
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 5: we're conditioned to only consume that much audio, which gives

866
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,439
Speaker 5: the artists less incentive to put time and effort into

867
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 5: their lyrics. Because if you have the fifteen seconds that pop,

868
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 5: who cares what the remaining minute and half of the

869
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 5: song says?

870
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 2: Right?

871
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 5: So, yeah, you're right. I agree in that front.

872
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 6: And that's what I'm saying. It's just it's just we

873
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 6: gotta again. I'm happy that these artists are geting these looks.

874
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 6: I'm happy that they're making the money that they're making,

875
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 6: they're supporting their families, themselves or whatever.

876
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 3: All of that is great.

877
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 6: I'm just starting to say that it's starting to and

878
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 6: it's going to keep affecting certain other areas of entertainment

879
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 6: because the talent has to stand up and meet these

880
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 6: numbers on these algorithms.

881
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 3: It's all I'm saying.

882
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 2: And I agree, But I'm not saying that just fell

883
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: out of thin air. I think the era you're talking

884
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 2: about that we love did start that. I think they

885
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: dumb shit down. They realize what worked with the radio.

886
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 2: They just focused on a hook, They just focused on

887
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 2: a bridge. They just focused on one single part of

888
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 2: the song. Even back to let's talk about fifty go Shardi,

889
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: it's your birthday, that was the part. Of course, the

890
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 2: rest of the record is great, but that started where

891
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: we are now. It was certainly focused on what's the hook?

892
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: What's the beat?

893
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 3: Is the beat?

894
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: Simple to Yeah?

895
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 3: The hook was always the hook was always the hook.

896
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 3: That's why it's called the hook.

897
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 2: And I'm saying it as hip hop went even specifically

898
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 2: to the era of Kim that we're talking about, the

899
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 2: hook post ninety eight, the hook was the only fucking

900
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 2: thing that mattered when it came to mainstream shit. It

901
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 2: was the only thing that was focused on.

902
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, but again, I mean, you know, but it still

903
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 6: has to be a certain quality though it has to be.

904
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 6: It can't just be the hook and then what's after that?

905
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 6: Like a lot of these records, I literally only know

906
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 6: the hook. I don't know nothing else.

907
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: Right. We know Swiss and Farrell to be some of

908
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 2: the best producers we've ever seen on Earth. That's not

909
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 2: why they've lasted so long and why they were so

910
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 2: popular in the two thousands. It was because they came

911
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 2: to the studio with a hook already there that they

912
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 2: focused on forever, and they just plug artists, plug and play.

913
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 2: That's why they lasted so long in this game, because

914
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 2: they just focused on the hook when it needed time

915
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 2: to have a radio record.

916
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 3: I'm with you, the hook is.

917
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: And then when the South part of the Ralph game

918
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 2: and like really really blew up, it was focused on

919
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 2: twenty seconds of a hook in a dance. Like It's

920
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 2: just gradually got to this point. I can't just blame

921
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 2: this era in these kids, because the Job the Time

922
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: I Love were the ones that started this shit.

923
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 5: The snap era in the like Soldier Boy, I mean

924
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 5: obviously predated the social media TikTok stuff, but all of

925
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 5: those records are the same formula.

926
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 3: No definite Rington is the first TikTok rap.

927
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 2: We have to focus on the twenty seconds that is

928
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: going to sell a ringtone. Yeah, that was the first,

929
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 2: and of course there was way more going on and

930
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: you actually had to rap three verses and the beats

931
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: may have been more complex. I'm not comparing it too,

932
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: I'm just saying it was the start of where we

933
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: are now.

934
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, hip hop has been getting dumbed down. Throughout history,

935
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: It's gotten dumber and dumber. We just have these little

936
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: That's why said when you mentioned Ja Cole, I'm like, oh,

937
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: the unicorn. We have these little unicorns that pop up

938
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: and we hold so tightly to their music. And then

939
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 1: they have like kids that come and you know they

940
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: do sorta kind of well. But the main stream hip

941
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: hop has been getting stupider for forever. This is this

942
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: is non new.

943
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 6: I mean again, all everybody is saying, valid shit, The

944
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 6: hook is the most important singe is to catch as

945
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 6: part of the record.

946
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 2: It's posted for eternity. I'm saying it became the only thing.

947
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 6: But the great artists they know how to live and

948
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 6: survive in between the hook, and then they know how

949
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 6: to do things with in the verse verse that sounds

950
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 6: like a hook.

951
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

952
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 6: Like so right, it's little things like that that I

953
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 6: think that a lot of the times get lost now

954
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 6: because it's so much like yo, just give us fifteen

955
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 6: seconds that we could loop on social media and it's

956
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 6: like whoa, but.

957
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: What about the rest of the record, what about the album?

958
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 6: You know what else? Like what are we doing with

959
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 6: this artist? Is it just like you're just gonna make

960
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 6: money for social media and then say, oh, let's put

961
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 6: this artist on the stage.

962
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 3: Then the artist.

963
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 6: That's why when everybody was killing Ice Spice, what was

964
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 6: rolling loud, it was like, what did you expect?

965
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

966
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 6: Like she's not ready for bedroom exactly. It's like, what

967
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 6: did you expect for this artist to do? Like I

968
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 6: remember years ago, bryceon Tiler was talking about when his

969
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 6: record took off from SoundCloud.

970
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 3: He didn't even know.

971
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 6: He was like, wait, they want another record, Like I

972
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 6: don't have one yet, you know what I mean. It's

973
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 6: kind of like how you throwing this artist in front

974
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 6: of it this festival crowd, and it's like I don't

975
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 6: even know how to stand and hold my hand and

976
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 6: hold the mic and I don't even know my back

977
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 6: to the crowd I'm talking to, like my d I

978
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 6: don't even know what I'm doing.

979
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 5: Performance is a whole different entity. You can't smart and.

980
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 6: That, but that speaks to another level of talent, you understand.

981
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 6: That's another That's another area of being an artist that

982
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 6: you have to dominate, which is why I said, you

983
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 6: can be the lyrical guy like Kendrick, but then when

984
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 6: you go see the Mister Big Steppers, Mister Morale and

985
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 6: a Big Steppers show. You sitting there like, yo, this

986
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 6: is insane.

987
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 5: It's a live film.

988
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you understand.

989
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 6: I'm saying at budget, not just budget, because if you

990
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 6: have that talent level, oh, somebody will find the budget

991
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 6: sill together, Yeah, make it app and you can scale

992
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 6: it down. Like we saw Bad Bunny at Made in America.

993
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

994
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 6: Like he just condensed what was his normal show to

995
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 6: a festival show, Like I gotta condense it.

996
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 3: But it's a whole world that he's created, which is

997
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 3: why he is who is.

998
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 2: It's just a talent level over fifteen years of experience too.

999
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 2: Like I watched Kendrick from.

1000
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 3: No, No, No, I'm not I'm not comparing.

1001
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 6: I'm just saying, you can be the lyrical guy that

1002
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 6: doesn't just focus on the fifteen second hook and be amazing.

1003
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 2: He had the time to get there, whereas Ice spice

1004
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: throughout there.

1005
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

1006
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: It's like, then there's other weird shit like the LMA situation.

1007
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 2: I've heard her talk about that, Like when that record

1008
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: blew up, they were like, all right, we need more

1009
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: of this. She was like I put that out a

1010
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 2: year ago, and I have a whole new album with

1011
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 2: a different sound. Scrap that because now you're just doing

1012
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 2: this get mustard over here, yes see.

1013
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 1: But that even leaks into R and B. Like it's

1014
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: not just about who's talented. Like I said, Keanu Today

1015
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: had one of the best albums I've heard in a

1016
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: long time. If you're not getting the push, you can

1017
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: have an amazing talent, you can be amazing, you can

1018
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: write rap, seeing everything. But if you're not getting the push,

1019
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: then it doesn't matter. If the powers that be aren't

1020
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: pushing you, it doesn't matter how talented you are, you're

1021
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: not going to see the success that you should be.

1022
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: It's been a problem for a loss of time.

1023
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 6: Though, Like we need to we need to push a

1024
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 6: lot of these R and B. Tink needs to get

1025
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 6: pushed more. People need to start talking about Tink a

1026
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 6: little more. We love Scissor, Love Summer, we love those

1027
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 6: those acts. Go listen takes catalog.

1028
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: But there's a balance. I don't want to put it

1029
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 2: all on the quote unquote powers that be because it's

1030
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: not like people talk like you could just take fucking

1031
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: me and be like, here's the song and now you're

1032
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: the number one artist in the world.

1033
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: Why that's what they did.

1034
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 2: Ice Spice. Ice Spice delivered with music, She delivered with

1035
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 2: an image. She branded herself really well. Her her personality

1036
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: she branded really well. Like let's let's not say Ice

1037
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: Spice went to the label and they taught her how

1038
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 2: to be a cool bronx chick. Like, yes, the powers

1039
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 2: that be pushed her, but she also pushed herself, you

1040
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: know what, to brand herself. She knows how to deliver records.

1041
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 2: She understands her audience, she understands TikTok and all that

1042
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 2: shit works.

1043
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 3: She gets it.

1044
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of factors that come in to it.

1045
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 2: Like Tanashe, I think she's super talented. She's had every

1046
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: fucking opportunity you could think of. She's been pushing every

1047
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 2: way possible. Sometimes things just don't click, And timing is

1048
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 2: a huge thing as well. Sometimes you just miss your

1049
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 2: fucking I don't know if it's magic, I don't know

1050
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: if it's sorcery, I don't know if it's the stars.

1051
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: Sometimes timing really is what matters.

1052
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 6: No time and is everything, And we understand that your

1053
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 6: job is to be prepared for your time and your moment.

1054
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 3: But I feel like a lot of artists are.

1055
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 6: But it's just because now the game is so warded

1056
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 6: down with a lot of fluff and a lot of

1057
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 6: just bullshit.

1058
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 3: It's like a lot of dopehit gets lost.

1059
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 6: Like you know, I talk about Victory Monet and Jozzy

1060
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 6: just put out an album Songs for Women, Free Game

1061
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 6: for Niggas. That's incredible. These are the joints we need

1062
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 6: to start.

1063
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: Like.

1064
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 3: It's artists that are there, you know what I mean.

1065
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 6: But it's like because there's certain artists that are just

1066
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 6: always pushed and on our algorithm consistently, that's done purposely.

1067
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 2: I think Jozzy is a great example. That's when talent

1068
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,919
Speaker 2: meets push. Yeah, project is incredible. She's also a star

1069
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 2: just in her own right. She has people behind her

1070
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: that will push it correctly. Sometimes those two things don't mix.

1071
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 2: And timing who she is personally, we haven't seen this yet,

1072
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 2: even down to the title of her project, which I won't.

1073
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 3: Say, Songs for Women, Free Game Niggas.

1074
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: So who she is, our sexual orientation, how she presents herself.

1075
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 2: This is the perfect time for JAZZI. Yes, sometimes it's

1076
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 2: timing Ice Spice a lot of timing with this one soon.

1077
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 2: M So it can't always be. We're not just gonna

1078
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: throw me and Eddin in a group and then Atlantic's

1079
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 2: gonna be like number one.

1080
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 5: You guys, what would that group be called?

1081
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 4: Orange and Mangos?

1082
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 2: The Fruits Wow.

1083
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 5: To count.

1084
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: We could join Fruit twn, they could extored us.

1085
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 5: We could to counter Demerius' point about like it like

1086
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 5: there is no universal button. I guess someone that was

1087
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 5: recently at the label system.

1088
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 2: Huh, that's hit the button.

1089
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's someone there said that, Yeah, I have my

1090
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 5: finger on the button. No, but there is nody. It's

1091
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 5: in everyone's best interest at the label to see all

1092
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 5: their artists, you know, progress and succeed. There's no like,

1093
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 5: no one at the label is like, let's wait another

1094
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 5: year on this one. If it if it happens, and

1095
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 5: you have that moment like when I was Atlantic, Jack

1096
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 5: Carlow popped. No one in the building was like suppressing

1097
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 5: Jack until what's popping happened? What's popping happened, and then

1098
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 5: all the powers that be were able to get him

1099
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 5: in positions that he wasn't ready for at a time

1100
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 5: before that record, before that moment hit. So it's also

1101
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 5: about like scaling artists at an appropriate rate. You can't

1102
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 5: just throw so and so on snl if no one

1103
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 5: knows who they are. Like, if you're an artist, you

1104
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 5: need to know what looks when the look makes the

1105
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 5: most sense for you to go on certain platforms, to

1106
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 5: be a part of certain festivals. You can't just get

1107
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 5: the house thrown at you and expect to just take off.

1108
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 5: That's not at all hell it works.

1109
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: Oh of course.

1110
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 2: No.

1111
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: When I say like the powers that be, I'm not

1112
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: even like talking about the leak. I think like hip

1113
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: hop is a huge consistent, like a huge conspiracy. And

1114
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: I think that you.

1115
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 3: Think hip hop is a conspiracy, not.

1116
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 1: Hip hop itself, But I think the music y'all don't

1117
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 1: think that. Y'all don't think that we've been dumbing down

1118
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: this shit, Like you don't think that there's something behind that.

1119
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 2: Yes, I just feel like the CIA doesn't have rhythm,

1120
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 2: Like what's the conspiracy?

1121
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1122
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 3: So like why would they?

1123
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: So you don't think that there's a reason that stuff

1124
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: about drugs and guns stuff gets pushed so much more.

1125
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: You don't think that there's a reason that songs about

1126
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: hating men all of that. Oh yeah, girl, fuck him,

1127
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: leave him. Like y'all don't think that there's a bigger

1128
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: thing behind.

1129
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 2: That's just hip hop. I think society music.

1130
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: Period, not just hip hop music period. I think that

1131
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: there's a reason why in black music, if you sing

1132
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 1: about love compared to if you sing about fuck that nigga,

1133
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 1: which one is gonna blow up more? If you sing

1134
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: about drugs and all of that stuff, and compared to

1135
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: singing about positive things, why one's gonna blow up more?

1136
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: But I could be being a conspiracy theorist, but I've

1137
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: thought about that for a long time. Why some of

1138
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: that stuff gets pushed. I mean, I don't think that's

1139
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 1: a label thing. I think it's bigger than that.

1140
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 2: That's just in general. I think with society.

1141
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, violent movies you kind of way more intriguing, Like

1142
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 4: every single time.

1143
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 5: Via crime podcasts, most humans escape is like the extreme

1144
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 5: of what reality is now.

1145
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 2: I think labels may look at that and go, oh,

1146
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 2: let's definitely exploit this at the detriment of that community.

1147
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 2: I think there is a conspiracy, not even a conspiracy.

1148
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 2: I just think corporations do not give a fuck about

1149
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 2: the safety of people, so they'll take advantage of a

1150
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: community liking that type of music and push it because

1151
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: it's going to be profitable. So I agree with you somewhat.

1152
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,919
Speaker 2: I just don't think there's a meeting at Atlantic where

1153
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 2: they're like, we need to get more guns into No.

1154
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: But that's why I said, I think it's bigger than

1155
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: the labels. But at the same time, it wasn't always

1156
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 1: like that.

1157
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,919
Speaker 2: Oh no, it's definite. Yeah, every democratic meeting.

1158
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: Hip hop used to be extremely informative, extremely like Fight

1159
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: the Power all of that stuff. Music used to only

1160
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: be about love music well, mainly like mainstream music used

1161
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: to be love songs, and they did well. There's some

1162
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 1: of your favorite songs that you still listen to this day.

1163
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: At some point there was a switch. I just don't

1164
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: think that that just happened naturally because of human they are.

1165
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 2: But also I think that's a bit misleading to in

1166
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 2: pardon my complexion. Yes, there was Public Enemy and Fight

1167
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: the Power. But at the exact same time, kars One

1168
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 2: had an oozy on his album cover.

1169
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 3: But what was the oozy representation of fair?

1170
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 2: But if you don't do the knowledge of a certain

1171
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 2: b DP records, they can just sound like gunshots and murder.

1172
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, But that's why you got to do the knowledge.

1173
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're talking about impressionable people that it's affecting.

1174
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 6: And hip hop went from you know, them trying to

1175
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 6: ban n w A for saying fuck the police and

1176
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 6: all of these things. Ice T they were trying to

1177
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 6: ban it. You know, Snoop Dogg, he was saying bitch

1178
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 6: too much in his record and these are these are

1179
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 6: you know they was. This was a time where they

1180
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 6: were trying to ban those things.

1181
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 5: And Jay tried to ban bitch. What Jay tried to

1182
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 5: ban bitch?

1183
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 3: J tried to band bitch?

1184
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 5: What do you mean that happened when when Blue Eyed

1185
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 5: was born? Like, I'm not saying bitch anymore.

1186
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:40,919
Speaker 3: He didn't know he was saying.

1187
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 5: He was.

1188
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,479
Speaker 3: He wasn't saying the world know that's not banned.

1189
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 2: I feel like he said he said it like I

1190
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 2: think songs later, but he definitely said we and probably

1191
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 2: Tims in the video.

1192
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 3: You know for sure he had Tims on last night.

1193
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 6: But I'm just saying like hip hop went from that

1194
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 6: from to where they were trying to sensor that and

1195
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 6: get those albums and artists off the shelves to now,

1196
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 6: like Damara said, a lot of these artists. Look at

1197
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 6: you look at a lot of these draw artists. Look

1198
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 6: at their numbers on YouTube.

1199
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 3: It's insane. It's a thousand guns in the video. One nigga.

1200
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, it was two niggas in this whole This

1201
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 3: whole video had two males. They had ninety guns.

1202
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 5: Like, where's Waldough. You gotta find the artists.

1203
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 6: But but you were trying to ban. You were trying

1204
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 6: to ban n WA for saying fuck the police. They

1205
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 6: were just saying something, yo, fuck the police.

1206
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 3: Take that off the shelves.

1207
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 6: But these gentlemen over here in Chicago, they got nine

1208
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 6: hundred million views on this video and they getting paid

1209
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 6: for it.

1210
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 2: But I think that comes from a society thing that's bigger.

1211
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 2: Like I don't know if Chief Keith, his whole life

1212
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 2: only fourteen years at that point, was just like just

1213
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 2: love music, I want to be a rapper. It was

1214
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 2: profitable at the time, and he was talking about exactly

1215
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 2: what was happening in Chicago, which is not raps problem.

1216
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 3: No, I'm not saying this raps problem.

1217
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 6: I'm just saying the way the industry is designed, the

1218
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 6: way it's set up, Like what Chief Keith and them

1219
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 6: was doing was literally just being what it hip hop

1220
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 6: has always done, is being a mouthpiece for the community

1221
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 6: and what's going on and letting the world know, like, Yo,

1222
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 6: this is what we deal with, this is what we

1223
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 6: go through. We're trying to get away from this. We're

1224
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 6: trying to get an escape, We're trying to create a

1225
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 6: way out.

1226
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 3: But then once they.

1227
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 6: Started paying, you know, when Chief Keith BLIPM became the

1228
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,720
Speaker 6: icon that he is, what does that do? It bursts

1229
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 6: a bunch of other chief who genre you understand what

1230
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 6: I'm saying. So they now they seemed like because he

1231
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 6: made it out doing that, we're from the same area. Okay,

1232
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 6: let's talk about what we're still going through and let's

1233
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 6: try to get out of that. But what I'm saying is,

1234
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 6: keep in mind it came from trying to ban somebody,

1235
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 6: a group, one of the most iconic groups ever, from

1236
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 6: saying fuck the police. So now, okay, all of these

1237
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 6: black men could have automatic weapons in their videos and

1238
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 6: do a nine hundred million views on YouTube, and we're

1239
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 6: gonna pay them every month for doing this, and we're

1240
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 6: gonna push them in the algorithms and let them keep

1241
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 6: doing that. Even though the crime rate is what it

1242
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 6: is in Chicago, and you know, we're gonna put these

1243
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 6: gentlemen in prison, and he has active warrants to go

1244
00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 6: lock them up because we've seen them in the video

1245
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 6: of a gun in this It's like, wait, hold on,

1246
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 6: but y'all paying them.

1247
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 1: To do this, and now music isn't sorry to cut

1248
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: you off doing it. And now music isn't just reflecting

1249
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,959
Speaker 1: what's going on. What's going on is reflecting the music,

1250
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: like they're copying the music. So now it's just not Oh,

1251
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 1: I'm rapping about what's going on. Now, I'm trying to

1252
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: do what's what people are rapping about now? Because these

1253
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: because hip hop is so influential and these are the

1254
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: leaders now, so now I'm even if I'm from the

1255
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: fucking suburbs, I'm trying to be against. That's how fucking

1256
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: six nines get bored.

1257
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 6: Well, that's why Chris Rock is a legend with CB

1258
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 6: four with the movie like that was the NWA playoff

1259
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 6: n WA and it was like, here, God, here, this

1260
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 6: is what the music is gonna do. It's gonna influence

1261
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 6: people that are not going through this, not from this

1262
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 6: culture at all, and they're gonna try to imitate a

1263
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 6: mimic this because they're so in love with what is

1264
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 6: going on in our culture.

1265
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 3: But in fact that.

1266
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 6: You don't have you're not You didn't grow up in poverty, sir.

1267
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 6: You could have went to school, you could have got

1268
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 6: a degree. You didn't have to go this route. But

1269
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 6: how it's hard to tell a kid yo ghosting in

1270
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 6: class go do that when his homeboy from the hood

1271
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 6: is doing eighteen million views on YouTube and just bought

1272
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 6: his mother a house and he has four cars, And

1273
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 6: it's like, go to school. Turn the beat on, fam,

1274
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 6: that's what we're about to do. Like I'm not going

1275
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 6: to you understand what I'm saying, but it's like, what

1276
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 6: do we do? How are we programming?

1277
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 2: Let's go create some ops? Yeah, like nobody like creating

1278
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 2: an op.

1279
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 6: This, nobody dislikes you, sir. You're creating this energy that

1280
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 6: is not real. You miss because you're being monetized for it.

1281
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 6: It's hard to tell these kids don't do it, yep.

1282
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 6: But then they when you say, okay, now you sir,

1283
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 6: go on that stage and entertained.

1284
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 3: But he's not an entertainer.

1285
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, get to dance, get to dance. He's not that

1286
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 5: he's not dancing for these white people.

1287
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't.

1288
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 6: It's not there because he didn't even want to really

1289
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 6: be an artist. He just imitated something he saw called

1290
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 6: a lick saw went viral, and now tomorrow you have

1291
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 6: to entertain thirty thousand people on stage. And then what

1292
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 6: we do record him get mad because he doesn't have rhythm,

1293
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 6: or she doesn't have rhythm. She's awkward, you know what

1294
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 6: I mean, can't dance, can't do nothing. It's like, yo,

1295
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 6: what is this? And now you're killing up? But it's

1296
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 6: like the industry pushed.

1297
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 2: That, and I feel like with these kids, though, their

1298
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 2: form of entertainment is that fifteen seconds and just a TikTok, fine,

1299
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 2: oh give what the fuck? So to them that's entertainment.

1300
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: We look at it because we've seen performances like, all right,

1301
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 2: this is awful. But to these younger kids, their form

1302
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 2: of entertainment is the phone, so they get to see

1303
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 2: what's on their phone in front of them. It's nothing

1304
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 2: if you drop it over a two track.

1305
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 5: If you go on Twitter or TikTok or any social

1306
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 5: media platform where people are just live posting from a festival,

1307
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 5: it's crazy. You'll see the same fifteen second clip of

1308
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 5: Ice Spice doing the section of the song that they know.

1309
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 5: You'll see thousands of videos of people in the crowd

1310
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 5: posting filming the same second. So when you experience it,

1311
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 5: like if say we weren't a Dreamville, we're just watching

1312
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 5: from Afar, if we go online, we would see these

1313
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 5: same clip just flood our news feed because everyone just

1314
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 5: wants that one moment of that fifteen seconds of their

1315
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 5: artists doing the one thing that they now.

1316
00:54:58,560 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and.

1317
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 2: Give Icepice a little the credit, though, I feel like

1318
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 2: she's give all the credit. Well, no, I just think

1319
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 2: she's become a better performer quickly.

1320
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, absolutely no, She's gonna.

1321
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 2: Figure it out, like if you don't remember. And I'm

1322
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 2: not comparing them by any means because Ice Spice up

1323
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 2: still has a lot more to prove. When Carti first

1324
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 2: came out, she could not perform at all. Cardi is

1325
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 2: an incredible perform Now I think she's a really really

1326
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 2: good performer. You can understand every word and Cardi b

1327
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,439
Speaker 2: rapping she puts together. Of course, she was a creative director,

1328
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 2: puts together a real show. At this point, Yeah, no,

1329
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 2: she got give Ice by some time, she'll get all

1330
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 2: the SpongeBob characters on stage, which big ship, the way

1331
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 2: they did, the way Katie Perry did the shark thing.

1332
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: She'll have a whole bikini bottom. She'll come out of

1333
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 2: the pineapple eventually. Just give her some time.

1334
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 1: But that comes with artists development, because they aren't doing

1335
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 1: artists development anymore these days. And I think that we've

1336
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: spoken about that, like you need to go and fucking rehearse,

1337
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: and you need to practice your fucking breath control, and

1338
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: we need to make sure that you know what I'm saying,

1339
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: like we have to put make you an artist, especially

1340
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be doing all these festival stages. But

1341
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: they don't care about that anymore because go up there

1342
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 1: to work and walk.

1343
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 2: Away, you know, will be fired. If Ice Spice came

1344
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 2: out of the pineapple and then Kai came from under

1345
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,439
Speaker 2: the rock and he was Patrick.

1346
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 4: I kind of love that he comes out and he does.

1347
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 2: It's a good question who would be Who's an Ice

1348
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 2: spice hater?

1349
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: Mm hm, Demarus Loto aren't really getting along these days.

1350
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 3: Ice spice and lotto or beefing not beefs.

1351
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: There's been ship, there's been some little little tips. Yeah,

1352
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 1: explaining to you off.

1353
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,879
Speaker 2: I don't like to and I never know beef because

1354
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 2: women usually support each other so much.

1355
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, so crazy w NBA games. You sold out.

1356
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: Y'all just said that Ross wanted Drake's ship off his

1357
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: off as the Martin music. Men don't support men other

1358
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: men either, y'all just fake.

1359
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 3: You gotta see these niggas climbing over the girls to

1360
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 3: get a picture.

1361
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: Work it faked, dick ride it will support fake really

1362
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: ain't fake? Oh, ship knees and everything.

1363
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 5: Oh God, you gotta see him, don't row.

1364
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 4: Don't have to see them.

1365
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 2: You gotta see them.

1366
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 3: Have you been outside, lady, Oh, it's crazy out.

1367
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 2: There and I see women. I see the conspiracy women

1368
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 2: are trying to do with men supporting men. You try

1369
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 2: to shame us by calling him big bro. We can't

1370
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 2: even if we're not the leader of the crew. Where

1371
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 2: the now women, You guys are kind of like the

1372
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 2: government and hip hop in that regard. You're trying to

1373
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 2: separate men from liking each other.

1374
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: I tell y'all all the time that men set the

1375
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: standard for what women will accept.

1376
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 5: Rory.

1377
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 3: I have been trying to do that for years and

1378
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 3: it's not working.

1379
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: I have been at party it is. I have been

1380
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: at parties with Rory and he'll see somebody pick riding

1381
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: and he'll go, oh god, you're the number one.

1382
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 3: Sound like that?

1383
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay the police.

1384
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's crazy, nasty force.

1385
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 2: That precink is crazy.

1386
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 3: What does the academy look like?

1387
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 2: I don't want to go to those tubs at all.

1388
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 2: The DRP no what I'm a hater though, I'm part

1389
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 2: of the conspiracy to stop men from supporting each.

1390
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: Other man when men be kick and bitches out this

1391
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: section to try to get next to other men in

1392
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: the section, both of y'all vomits.

1393
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 2: It's called unity. You and I.

1394
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, Queen the teeth and made a jazzy tune back

1395
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 6: in the day that was amazing.

1396
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 2: You talked about that, and I'm an advocate of men

1397
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: need more big bros. Stop shaming men from having big bros.

1398
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 2: They need gudance.

1399
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: No, you definitely need big bros.

1400
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 2: Women are trying to stop the big bro movement.

1401
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: No, we're trying to stop you for big brothers. Sister,

1402
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: don't know big bro when you see them, you don't know, then, what's.

1403
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 5: The heart your big bro?

1404
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 2: You're super because they motivate me. On I G he.

1405
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: Me and big bro working bro, you ran into him

1406
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: at the bathroom and made in America Like you're not

1407
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: even this isn't even your media, it's your homeboys media passes.

1408
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 2: And we discussed working.

1409
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 3: Wait that really happens? Like, hell, man, you meet each

1410
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 3: other at the bathroom, go to.

1411
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 5: Your tagged photos. Everybody's like, my big bro mall, like

1412
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 5: that's all your pho.

1413
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, no, no no, I'm talking about meeting in the

1414
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 6: meeting a man in the bathroom and then like I mean,

1415
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 6: after you watch exchanging info.

1416
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 5: That's sick.

1417
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 2: I've been asked for pictures in the bathroom.

1418
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 6: No, I'm not you missing what I'm saying. I'm talking

1419
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 6: meeting a man in the bathroom and exchanging phone numbers.

1420
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: They're not exchanging phone numbers, they're just yo, this is

1421
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: taking a picture.

1422
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 5: You know they're going over to your No, yoyo, what's your.

1423
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 6: I G.

1424
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 5: Putting the phone over the year Yeah, I'm verified. Yo.

1425
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 2: Did you follow back yet?

1426
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 3: Oh damn, that's sick, mall.

1427
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 5: Yes, sad day for you, by the sad week for you?

1428
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 3: Sad week?

1429
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 5: Or is this just the beginning of a beautiful time? Oh?

1430
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 6: This is the beginning of this is like when the

1431
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 6: movie starts, it's like that slow, sad music playing, but

1432
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 6: then at the end of the movie, it's like a joyous,

1433
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 6: happy occasion.

1434
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 3: That's life is great. You leave the theater like, yeah,

1435
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 3: that was a great film. President Donald Trump was arrested.

1436
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 2: I just don't see the correlation.

1437
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 3: He was arrested, he was arrested.

1438
00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 2: He's taking us on this film.

1439
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 6: No, look, you're gonna see. He was arrested. What was

1440
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 6: that TUESDA Monday. He was arrested and arraigned Monday in

1441
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 6: a New York court.

1442
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 2: Smart guy, everyone knows. Never turn yourself in on a

1443
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,439
Speaker 2: Friday Monday. A judge right away.

1444
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, had the jet waiting and left New York immediately after.

1445
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 6: He was arrested, and he pled not guilty to thirty

1446
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 6: four felon accounts.

1447
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 2: Thirty four felling accounts was fucking crazy.

1448
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, But he wasn't dieted.

1449
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 6: So this is the first time that a former president

1450
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 6: was actually arrested. So it was a big day in Manhattan.

1451
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 6: Traffic was fucking crazy. But I feel like this is

1452
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 6: a simulation. Once again, this is a movie. We're all

1453
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:42,439
Speaker 6: sitting in and playing a part of.

1454
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 3: May we like it or not.

1455
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 2: I'm not making an a Trump thing specific, but we

1456
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 2: should make this more of a thing arresting presidents.

1457
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, should we.

1458
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 2: I actually think it should be standard. At the end

1459
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 2: of your term, you're not arrested per se, but you

1460
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 2: need to put on trial for the decisions you made.

1461
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 2: We need to go through your entire.

1462
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 3: Term as as president.

1463
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 2: Yes, the way they do in corporate companies. You get

1464
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 2: your yearly review and all that ship, and then you

1465
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 2: need certain people to the people that refused or get

1466
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 2: a raised.

1467
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, we need to do.

1468
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 2: This with every single president because I also think presidents

1469
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 2: would be a little bit more careful in the things

1470
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 2: they did had they have to stand there and be

1471
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 2: held accountable by everyone.

1472
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 6: I was kind of disappointed when Julian and I were

1473
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 6: disappointed when he didn't have handcuffs put on him, because

1474
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 6: we figured that would be one of the greatest photos

1475
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 6: in the history of America. And I think it be

1476
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 6: even greater photo if if and when he went the

1477
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 6: next election to go from handcuffs in a Manhattan courtroom

1478
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 6: to winning the presidency again.

1479
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 5: They missed a prime marketing opportunity.

1480
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 2: It would be the highest selling T shirt maybe of

1481
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 2: all time, absolutely because because Democrats would buy it thinking

1482
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:56,479
Speaker 2: like Trump locked in handcuffs, and Republicans would buy it like, yeah,

1483
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 2: our guys.

1484
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 3: Guys hard tall part is shirt.

1485
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 6: Look at look at Donnie Tintoes. Gotta call him Donnie

1486
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 6: tin Toes him now on. He's not snitching on nobody.

1487
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 3: You think, no for what don He's not gonna take

1488
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 3: the stand a man.

1489
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 2: He is kind of a big sniche.

1490
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 5: He said, it's a big nothing You got Papa and

1491
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 5: hit that hit that stand and.

1492
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 6: You ain't see him at mar Lago when he left

1493
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 6: New York speech was beautiful.

1494
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 2: It is out on bail speech.

1495
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, come on, man, he threw a party and

1496
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 3: your derves.

1497
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 2: Name Damarus w washing together. I can't lie. We were

1498
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 2: glued to the TV.

1499
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 3: You have to be it's Donnie ten Toes. How can

1500
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 3: you not?

1501
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 5: Can you not be glued to the platinum first speech?

1502
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 6: Like that's his first This is the rollout for his

1503
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 6: second album. You gotta look, you gotta be glued to this.

1504
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 3: This is entertained. This is what America is.

1505
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 6: This One of the reasons why I love Donald Trump

1506
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 6: is because he is exactly what America.

1507
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 7: Is a piece of ship exactly, a thief. This is

1508
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 7: this is a what did what? What was the disrecord

1509
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 7: that Drake supposed to be? This is America, This is America.

1510
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 7: This is what childish Gambinos saying.

1511
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 2: He was talking about Trump.

1512
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 3: He was talking about Trump.

1513
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 6: This is America. This is the guy, this is what

1514
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 6: America looks like. This is what America is based on,

1515
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 6: you know, and it's it's it's just we have to

1516
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 6: wait and see. Now it's gonna be crazy when none

1517
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 6: of these charges stick. He's not going to be arrested.

1518
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 6: People think that people there are people that really think

1519
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 6: Donald Trump is going to be arrested and thrown into

1520
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 6: a cell. Well, he's been arrested, you know what I mean,

1521
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 6: like thrown into like you know, people thought he was

1522
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 6: gonna be like Monday, he was gonna be putting handcuffs

1523
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 6: and putting into a cell.

1524
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: Ye.

1525
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 6: I'm like, y'all think that a former president is going

1526
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 6: to be put into.

1527
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 3: A jail cell that hard.

1528
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: It's a gym pop.

1529
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 3: It will not happen.

1530
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 2: It's mostly I think they're just using this uh Stormy

1531
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 2: Daniel thing as just the way the way cops like

1532
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 2: I smell weed in your car. Now we can search

1533
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 2: it even if they don't. Yeah, this is just so

1534
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 2: they can open all his taxes.

1535
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, they just want to.

1536
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 2: They just want to warrant to get into everything. And

1537
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 2: I think there is a world and this could just

1538
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:56,439
Speaker 2: be the marshmallow Democrat that I am Marshmallow, that there's

1539
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 2: a world where Trump could end up in one of

1540
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 2: those camp federal prisons. That's you know, they serve ice

1541
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 2: cream and ship like, it's not really jail tennis courts,

1542
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 2: that's not Yeah, like wherever they sent fucking Jordan Belford.

1543
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 3: It's not happening, no way.

1544
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,439
Speaker 5: And Martha Stewart, she did hurt.

1545
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 3: You're comparing Martha Stewart to do the same.

1546
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 5: She went through a similar facility. They both about the

1547
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 5: same age.

1548
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 6: They're not the same though. This is Donald Trump, the

1549
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 6: former Presidenty're both playing the sheets. He will they do that,

1550
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 6: They do do that.

1551
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 2: It was also double Andsandra for KKK.

1552
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 6: But he will nice, he will not. Donald Trump will

1553
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 6: not be put into a jail. Will not happen.

1554
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 3: You cannot put a former president into a prison cell.

1555
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 5: You can, you cannot.

1556
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 2: Plenty of countries have done it, and I think Trump

1557
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 2: more to his followers. If Trump was in a jail

1558
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 2: cell for a month.

1559
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 3: It won't it's it's not going to happen. This is

1560
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 3: not going to happen. I don't.

1561
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 6: I think that this is all a fucking This is

1562
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 6: just a distractive from which we're talking about. This is

1563
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 6: why this is America. We're talking about this a president

1564
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 6: being in dieted on thirty four accounts for alleged hush

1565
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 6: money and fundeling funds, all of this more than we

1566
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 6: are talking about kids that were killed in a school

1567
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 6: in Nashville, Tennessee.

1568
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 2: Well, he won't go to jail because if he goes

1569
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 2: to jail, it starts the snowball on both sides of

1570
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 2: who else needs to go to jail. Even Democrats at

1571
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,919
Speaker 2: the level of office don't want Trump to go to jail.

1572
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 2: That opens up too much for everyone. It exposes everyone

1573
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 2: on that level.

1574
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 6: I think what they're hoping to do is that this

1575
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 6: will derail his bid for the next presidential election, which

1576
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 6: it won't. I think that this only helps him. I

1577
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 6: think that this is officially his campaign. I think that

1578
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 6: they made a big mistake in doing this, because again,

1579
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 6: this is the press that he probably didn't want, but

1580
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 6: it's pressed nonetheless, so he's going to turn it into

1581
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 6: something where at the end people are going to vote

1582
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 6: for him.

1583
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 2: He was out of the headlines for a while. Yeah,

1584
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 2: so I think this just worked and this.

1585
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:51,959
Speaker 3: Is his This is his six ' nine getting jumped

1586
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 3: into La Fitness bathroom. This is what this is.

1587
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 2: That's what it is.

1588
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the same thing. It's like he was kind

1589
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 3: of chilling, laying a low a little bit.

1590
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 2: You don't think get shugged, bail and pock out.

1591
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: Nah.

1592
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 2: That speech wasn't California love.

1593
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 5: Oh?

1594
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 3: That speech was definitely California that's you know.

1595
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 6: That speech was. That speech was Andre three thousand. When

1596
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 6: he said thank you at the gram just what it

1597
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 6: was a thank you? It was like, yo, y'all, just

1598
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 6: this is my campaign. Now all of the cameras are

1599
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 6: back on me.

1600
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 2: He was just trying to say the South has something

1601
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 2: to say.

1602
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 3: That's it. That's all. He was saying.

1603
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 2: The Red States have something that.

1604
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 3: We had, The reds have something to say.

1605
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 6: This is Donald Trump's new campaign, and this is what's

1606
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 6: gonna get him back into the White House.

1607
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 3: I guarantee it.

1608
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 5: You think he's gonna win there's.

1609
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 6: No there's no question he's gonna win now. I said

1610
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 6: that before this happened. I said, Yo, if they indict

1611
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 6: this dude, they are helping him. They're gonna help this

1612
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 6: is helping him win his next presidential election without a doubt,

1613
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 6: without a doubt.

1614
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 2: But I'm just I'm scared. I don't have much to say. Besides,

1615
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 2: I'm terrified. What just this next year? Four? Oh my god,

1616
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 2: that's gonna be the biggest circus on planet fucking Earth.

1617
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 3: Would you vote for Biden again?

1618
01:06:58,200 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 2: Probably?

1619
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 3: Not of people feel that way.

1620
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: A lot. That's what That's why I think he's gonna

1621
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 1: wait because a lot of people.

1622
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:04,959
Speaker 2: I didn't say I was voting for Trump.

1623
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 6: I'm not trusting me, and I know vote yeah, no,

1624
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 6: vote for Biden is a vote for Trump.

1625
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 5: I know.

1626
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 2: I understand your logic. I get it. I know I'm

1627
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 2: part of the problem. But if it's Trump and Biden again,

1628
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 2: those are the two candidates at the end of all

1629
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 2: the primaries, I'm cool, you're just not voting.

1630
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 5: No, But then if you don't vote for Biden, you're

1631
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 5: not supporting black people.

1632
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 3: But don't vote for black pot That's what Biden said.

1633
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 3: If you don't know him. You're not black?

1634
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know. For the last three three years,

1635
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 6: you guys, I have not been black. I don't know

1636
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 6: if you'll notice or that.

1637
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 3: Oh I forgot. Sorry.

1638
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 2: I know I am part of the problem because I'm

1639
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 2: in that crucial swing state of New York. I just

1640
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:42,919
Speaker 2: don't think I'm gonna I don't think I'm gonna vote.

1641
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 6: And that's another thing. Why the voting system is just

1642
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 6: the electoral votes what matters. This ship is all it's

1643
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 6: it's it's a bunch of nothing. It's like a fucking

1644
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 6: pyramid scheme.

1645
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 5: At this point, you could get a house in the

1646
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 5: swing state.

1647
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 2: Me.

1648
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would love to the mix.

1649
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I would love to big.

1650
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 6: I just again, I just think that this is something

1651
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 6: that Trump didn't want, but now he's like, oh, they're

1652
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 6: helping me, because that's all this is.

1653
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 3: This is this is press at the highest level, and

1654
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 3: this is all he needed and didn't want, but he

1655
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 3: needed this, so we'll see. I don't know, man.

1656
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 6: Jill Biden though, she she invited Iowa and l s

1657
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 6: U to the to the White House.

1658
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 2: First time I've ever heard Jill Biden speak.

1659
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, she invited them to the White House.

1660
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 6: Angel Reese went on social media and kind of laughed

1661
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 6: at the thought of that and said, we not.

1662
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 3: Coming, period.

1663
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 6: And then people went on to ask would Jill Biden

1664
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 6: have invited l s U if they had lost.

1665
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 2: As progressive as the Democratic Party claims to be, they

1666
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 2: really don't let women speak. I haven't heard from Kamala.

1667
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 2: I haven't heard from Jill.

1668
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 1: Kamala is in a silk pressed chair like she be chilling.

1669
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 1: She don't want to speak.

1670
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 2: Do you think she shows up to the IOWA and

1671
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 2: LSU party?

1672
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 1: Oh, for the l s show. She gonna be in there,

1673
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 1: you know her.

1674
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 2: This is kind of nuts. All right, let's go with

1675
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 2: the obvious. If IOWA one are both teams being yeah, no,

1676
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 2: come on.

1677
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 3: Man, we know that.

1678
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 6: No, it's not it's not happening. LSU would not have

1679
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 6: been invited if they didn't win.

1680
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 3: We know that.

1681
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 6: Like, that's why this is all just some dumb stupid

1682
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 6: shit like invite the team that won, period, Like invite LSU.

1683
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,679
Speaker 6: You don't have to invite Iowa, Like why is IOWA

1684
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 6: being invited? And I love shout out to Kaitlyn Clark

1685
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 6: because she's been very like, you know, outspoken, about it, Like, listen, guys, like,

1686
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 6: why y'all doing this turning this into this It's just

1687
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 6: women competing.

1688
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:32,959
Speaker 3: We had a great time, great game, great tournament.

1689
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 6: We got a lot of odds back on women's basketball,

1690
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 6: you know, but it's turning into something else.

1691
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 2: Now.

1692
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,719
Speaker 3: Let LSU have the moment they won. They should be invited.

1693
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 6: Like Kaitlyn Clark is, She's been real classy throughout this

1694
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 6: whole thing. I think she's, you know, been saying the

1695
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 6: right things and moving the right way. So shout out

1696
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 6: to her because I don't want that to get lost.

1697
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 2: And speaking of things getting lost, let's have another quick

1698
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,600
Speaker 2: Reddit segment. I know we had one on the last episode.

1699
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:00,080
Speaker 2: I did see a great thread about our reaction to

1700
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark and Angel Reese that because we said the

1701
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 2: media was outraged at itself for being racist, that was

1702
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 2: us defending Dave Portnett. Oh, how did that We said

1703
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 2: that we're trying so hard to get to barstool that

1704
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 2: because we said the media is outraged at the media

1705
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 2: for being racist, that we are now defending Dave and

1706
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 2: we are trying our best to get in Dave's good

1707
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 2: graces to get on barstool, no, because and boy was

1708
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 2: there a lot of replies saying, yep, I thought the

1709
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 2: same thing. Yeah, people out there, I'm not saying we're

1710
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 2: the best at articulating shit. But if you took that

1711
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 2: conversation is that I don't really know what to tell you.

1712
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 3: See, that's why I don't pay attention to shit like that.

1713
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 2: We were saying, Caitlin Gark and Injuries both have no

1714
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 2: issue with trash talking. Yeah, the media is outraged at

1715
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 2: the media, not at what's going on on the court though.

1716
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1717
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 5: Did you guys see Gillian Wallow's response.

1718
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 3: I did, and they caught a lot of flat.

1719
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 6: A lot of people felt like they was tap dancing

1720
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 6: because at the end of it they said, Dave, we

1721
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 6: love you.

1722
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 4: That's a kind of crazy, know they did.

1723
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1724
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 6: But Dave was out of line. He was out of

1725
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 6: line for that tweet. He was out of line. Like

1726
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 6: first of all, calling a female classless piece of ship

1727
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 6: is insane, Like you just that's just not You don't

1728
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:19,719
Speaker 6: do that. You don't call a woman a classless piece

1729
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 6: of shit, even if even if the woman is being

1730
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 6: a classes you don't say it. You don't post it

1731
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 6: on social media, like, just don't do that like that,

1732
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 6: So that it was unnecessary, it was uncalled for. It

1733
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 6: was out of line and very disrespectful.

1734
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 2: For Dave to be a Patriots fan and at one

1735
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 2: point a huge Kronk supporter to call someone a classless

1736
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 2: piece of ship for pointing at their finger after winning

1737
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 2: the national championship, but also support Gronk on a regular

1738
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:46,440
Speaker 2: season game. It's fucking insane.

1739
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 6: I think Dave does a lot of things for for

1740
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 6: clickbait viral. He knows his audience, know, you know, he

1741
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 6: knows what he's doing. But that was out of line.

1742
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 6: That was very disrespectful. It's just again, you're talking about women,

1743
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 6: young women at that, So to call a young woman,

1744
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 6: a collegiate athlete a classless piece of shit and you're

1745
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 6: a grown man, that's you completely out of line for that.

1746
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 6: That's very disrespectful. But yeah, I did see Gillian Wallow

1747
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 6: address it. I did see people not happy with their

1748
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 6: response and h and saying they kind of, you know,

1749
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 6: tap danced around it a little bit and you know,

1750
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 6: whatever whatever. But I understood what Gillian Wallow was saying

1751
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 6: with that. It's like, do we hate Dave. Do we,

1752
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 6: you know, want to condemn him, and we're not fucking

1753
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 6: him no more, no, but we do want him to know, like, yo,

1754
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 6: that you out.

1755
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 2: Of line, you disrespect, tell your friend you're wrong. Yeah,

1756
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 2: and this is coming across as you only doing it

1757
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 2: to a black woman, just letting you know, Yeah, exactly.

1758
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 1: Not coming across, That's what it is.

1759
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 6: It's like when Snoop had words about Gail King and

1760
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 6: in regards to her comments on Kobe, and Snoop went

1761
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 6: a little too it was aggressive.

1762
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 3: I get it.

1763
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 6: Snoop had passed. I mean, excuse me, Kobe had passed away.

1764
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 6: People were still morning and kind of heard about the passing.

1765
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 6: Gail King had her remarks about Kobe. So yeah, everybody

1766
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 6: was because even I know, huge Kobe fan, I was like, damn, Gil,

1767
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 6: that was a little You may't have to bring that

1768
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 6: up about Kobe right now. We mourning the loss of him,

1769
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 6: his daughter and her friends and their family on the

1770
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 6: helicopter like it's a tragic event, and you bringing this

1771
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 6: negative thing up about that happened in Kobe's life just

1772
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 6: the wrong time for that.

1773
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:16,799
Speaker 3: Snoop went a little too crazy.

1774
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 6: He went crazy, like he went crazy like he was

1775
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 6: calling us some things that he shouldn't have and you know,

1776
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 6: it was like I get it. We was all felt

1777
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 6: some type of way about what Gail King said, But

1778
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 6: you ain't have to go that far, you know what

1779
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 6: I mean. And that's kind of what Dave did with

1780
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,959
Speaker 6: his remarks. You could say that yo, you know, taunting

1781
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 6: and all of that is like come on, like you

1782
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 6: know what I mean, Like you didn't have to go

1783
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 6: that hard on Caitlyn cool, but to say she's a

1784
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 6: classless piece of shit, it's like, bro, you that's a

1785
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 6: little you're going a little too far away.

1786
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:47,719
Speaker 2: And that, from my understanding, David never commented on Caitlin,

1787
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 2: who for the entire season was taunting players.

1788
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 6: Yeah and again, and we talked about it. Taunting is great.

1789
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 6: Shout out to Yukon the Yukonvin's team. They won a

1790
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 6: national championship and I was watching the game and I said,

1791
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 6: this is exactly why.

1792
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,600
Speaker 3: You need taunting in sports. That game was very lacklust.

1793
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,600
Speaker 6: It was very like the final buzzer went off and

1794
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 6: it was like it didn't even feel like they won

1795
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 6: a national championship.

1796
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 3: But this is what I'm there was like the bubble championship.

1797
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 3: This is what I'm saying.

1798
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 6: This is why you league those type of things in sports.

1799
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 6: You need players to kind of go at each other,

1800
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 6: should give it that edge, to give it that meaning, Like, Okay,

1801
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 6: they really out here competing and they really just mean something.

1802
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 6: And I'm willing to bet that they talked to both

1803
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 6: of those teams before that game. The rest listen, no taunting,

1804
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 6: no trash talking.

1805
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 3: I know they did.

1806
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 6: I know that because you could just feel it didn't

1807
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 6: feel like it was a competitive game. It just felt

1808
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 6: like they just out here playing basketball and then somebody won.

1809
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 6: It didn't feel like a national college championship game. So again,

1810
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,639
Speaker 6: you need trash talking and you need taunting in sports.

1811
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 6: I think that that's part of the game. It's always

1812
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 6: been a part of the game. It's not going away

1813
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:55,560
Speaker 6: no matter how many times you try to give a

1814
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 6: player tech and kick a player out.

1815
01:14:57,760 --> 01:14:59,799
Speaker 3: Players are going to compete and they're gonna talk trash.

1816
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 2: Did Joe Biden apologize? I feel like I saw a

1817
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 2: headline that said she apologized.

1818
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 3: For inviting Iowa, for inviting both teams. I mean, I wouldn't.

1819
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:11,720
Speaker 6: I don't even care if she I don't think she

1820
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 6: needs to apologize for inviting both teams.

1821
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 3: I think that is just it's laughable.

1822
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 6: It's like, it's not you know, I don't think it's

1823
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 6: a disrespectful thing to invite both teams. I think it's

1824
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 6: something to laugh at, Like you wouldn't invited LSU if

1825
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:22,679
Speaker 6: they lost.

1826
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 4: It was more of she said, because of good sportsmanship,

1827
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 4: and that was just kind of.

1828
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 3: Well, I get it. That's what I'm saying. I don't

1829
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 3: think she needs to apologize.

1830
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 2: So she was making a joke and saying that playing

1831
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 2: off that there was not good sportsmanship.

1832
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 3: No, no, no, she wasn't making a joke. She legit

1833
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 3: like invited Iowa.

1834
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 1: She was being a typical she was white woman.

1835
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 6: She was trying to show that she was trying to

1836
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 6: show that, you know, let's bring both teams together in

1837
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 6: the mix of everybody trying to make it this disrespectful

1838
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 6: tony thing, trash talking thing. Let's show that there's good

1839
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 6: sports well good you know sportsmanship, and people can get yeah,

1840
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 6: like but you know.

1841
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 2: Can you don't imagine all the teams that lost to

1842
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:58,799
Speaker 2: the Patriots on a field goal in the last second,

1843
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 2: they play hard to Yeah, Like.

1844
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

1845
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 6: This is part of sports, This is part of competition.

1846
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:08,440
Speaker 6: It's like when you give teams a.

1847
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 1: Party participation, what are you doing?

1848
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 6: Like, No, you don't get a trophy for that. You

1849
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 6: go hard in the game and you play hard so

1850
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 6: that you can get that trophy. If you lose, go

1851
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 6: in the locker room, get ready for next season. You'll

1852
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 6: have a great summer, like workout, work on your game,

1853
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 6: come back next year hopefully you're a better team. But

1854
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 6: you don't get a participation award, trophy, and definitely don't

1855
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 6: get a participation a participation invite to the White House?

1856
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 2: Well, is do we think ls she was gonna go?

1857
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 1: After that comment, LSU said they're not. Well, Angel Reese

1858
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 1: says her team isn't going.

1859
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 6: She tweeted that were not coming. But I do think

1860
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 6: that LSU will be at the White House. I do

1861
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 6: think that they're gonna go. I can't see them not going.

1862
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,640
Speaker 6: I don't know if a team ever didn't go to

1863
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 6: the White House.

1864
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 2: The Trump administration. Mad Teams was like all teams that

1865
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 2: was different because a lot.

1866
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 5: Of except the Clemson team. I'm pretty sure the Clemson

1867
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 5: because that's where the photo.

1868
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I can't. I can't. I can't see the

1869
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,719
Speaker 3: l s U women's basketball team not going.

1870
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 1: Why can you not see them going? Because Angel has

1871
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 1: been like very adamant and we're not going.

1872
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 3: I mean, Angel might not go.

1873
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 2: That's my point thinking there's plenty of players that just

1874
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 2: have not gone like Angel.

1875
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 6: I don't think Angel will go. I can't see her going,

1876
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 6: especially after tweeting we not coming. I can't see her going,

1877
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 6: But I do think the l s U team will

1878
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 6: be there.

1879
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 1: I think that Angel is a leader on her team

1880
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 1: and from what I've seen with her team, her the way,

1881
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 1: her relationship with her coach, and as a leader of

1882
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:37,599
Speaker 1: her team, her team, they're a very close knit team.

1883
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 1: If she's saying we not coming, not I'm not coming.

1884
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 1: If she's saying we not coming, I bet my billion dollars,

1885
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 1: my bottom dollar are not going.

1886
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's interesting in some players at that

1887
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 5: damn house.

1888
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 3: I think so, I think, I think, I think I

1889
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:50,440
Speaker 3: think they will be represented.

1890
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:54,679
Speaker 6: Again, I don't. I'm pretty sure Angel's not going. But again,

1891
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 6: you know, I just think, like again, look at what

1892
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 6: it turned into.

1893
01:17:57,920 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, like Angel should go.

1894
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 6: Because they you know what I mean, and it's part

1895
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 6: of it. It's like, Yo, you win, you go to

1896
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 6: the White House, you meet the President, even if you

1897
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:06,759
Speaker 6: don't like him, or you don't like the First Lady, whatever,

1898
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 6: you go with your team, go to the White House.

1899
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:10,799
Speaker 3: You know, you accept your give.

1900
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 6: The jersey to the First Lady or whatever or to

1901
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 6: the President, and you know, you have a celebration. That's

1902
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 6: part of the whole you know, winning the national title.

1903
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 6: But now it's turned into this. Now Angelis is in

1904
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 6: a position where she has to tell the First Lady

1905
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 6: we not coming because of the backlash that she got

1906
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 6: from taunting and being competitive. That's that's really what it is.

1907
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 6: So it just turned into again a bunch of shit

1908
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 6: that it shouldn't have turned into. It took away from

1909
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 6: the fact that two great teams competed and it was

1910
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:44,600
Speaker 6: one of the best women's tournaments I've ever watched and

1911
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 6: definitely one of the best championship games. So, I mean,

1912
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:48,600
Speaker 6: it just turned into something that is should of and

1913
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 6: it's just stupid. And here we all talking about a

1914
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 6: bunch of shit we shouldn't even be talking about. But

1915
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 6: either way, shout out to Ajurie, Shout out to Kayln

1916
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 6: Clark and their teams where they did for women's the

1917
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 6: women's tournament was it's definitely elevated the tournament that I

1918
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 6: think they have more views than the men's game because

1919
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 6: I don't I don't know many people that watched the final,

1920
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 6: the championship game for the men's game, So shout out

1921
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 6: to them for that alone.

1922
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 2: Would you go if we got invited to the Biden

1923
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 2: administration White House.

1924
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 6: To go see sleepy Joe and you no?

1925
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 2: Why not?

1926
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 5: Oh?

1927
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 3: I don't want to meet Joe Biden.

1928
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 2: I mean people have Alzheimer's are fun to be around.

1929
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 5: Wow, Yeah, but you tell all your secrets? I forget

1930
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 5: right away.

1931
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, as you the same question?

1932
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 5: Whatever, get an ice cream call with them?

1933
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 3: You want to pinch my cheek? Where are you from? Son?

1934
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 6: I'm a grown fucking man, Get your hand over. But

1935
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 6: you know, old white men think everybody's a kid. It

1936
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 6: could be a grown man. Would a been Hey, how

1937
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 6: you doing?

1938
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 3: Son? Get off me?

1939
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 1: But I think, why do you have Why did you

1940
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 1: have an Italian accent? But I think that there's just

1941
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 1: been a lack of respect for president's period, starting with

1942
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 1: like with Trump, I think that that became a whole

1943
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:53,719
Speaker 1: thing where people don't care about going to the White

1944
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 1: House as much as they used to. Are Am I

1945
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 1: crazy for that?

1946
01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 2: No?

1947
01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 3: People don't care what a lot of shit that they

1948
01:19:59,080 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 3: used to.

1949
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 5: Now they don't care to Obama's happy as hell.

1950
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 6: Yeah he was black. Yeah, it's cool to meet the

1951
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 6: first black president. That's pretty cool. But Donald Trump and

1952
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 6: everybody he's racist.

1953
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 3: He's this, he's that. Fuck him, I get it.

1954
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:13,719
Speaker 1: And then nobody really likes Joe Biden.

1955
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 6: Like, Joe Biden doesn't even know you're there. He's sleep

1956
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 6: standing up it just like, why am I here? This

1957
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 6: old man's falling asleep standing at the podium.

1958
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we Sometimes you just don't want to

1959
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 2: visit your grandparents when it's not out.

1960
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:26,640
Speaker 3: I'm not going over there.

1961
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 5: Well, let's stay on something that also happened during the tournament.

1962
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 5: During the women's final, a commercial not a commercial, pardon

1963
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 5: me post went up on social media from a transgender

1964
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 5: social media influencer, Dylan mulvaney, a sponsored post with bud Light,

1965
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 5: and in the post, Dylan showing cans that have her

1966
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 5: face on the cans. So immediately transgender, transphobic people took

1967
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:57,719
Speaker 5: to the mean streets of Twitter and boycotted and Heiser

1968
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 5: Busch and all the products. Who is that this is

1969
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 5: an influencer in the LGBTQ plus community. Okay, so they,

1970
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 5: you know, saw an opportunity to get it, like you know,

1971
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 5: partner do some brand sponsorship stuff, custom cans, all that

1972
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:14,639
Speaker 5: stuff and for tournament time. Here's the caption here.

1973
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 2: But I thought the right hated cancel culture and boycotting products.

1974
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 2: I thought that was I thought that was un American.

1975
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 1: No, they were cutting up their fucking what were they

1976
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 1: cutting up the Nikes or something? They were cutting up

1977
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 1: their Adidas?

1978
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 2: Oh?

1979
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 5: What were they? Was it Nike?

1980
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 3: Adidas? From Kanye made the remarks he made.

1981
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 1: I know they were cutting up Adidas, but they were

1982
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 1: cutting up they always cut it was cut.

1983
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 6: Up the Didas that nobody wears they wasn't cutting no yeasies. Yeah,

1984
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 6: I ain't seen no slides being cut up. I ain't

1985
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:45,799
Speaker 6: seen none of that in them yeasy hoodies being burned

1986
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 6: like y'all was y'all was burning a Didas performance where

1987
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 6: like nobody wears that.

1988
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 2: Why is this a big deal?

1989
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:54,440
Speaker 3: Still? Transgender? Uh? Transphobia?

1990
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 4: Yes, we really like beer in America.

1991
01:21:56,760 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 6: People are listen, man, again, and this is I think

1992
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 6: that we get caught up because we are on social media.

1993
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 6: I think that we think that social media is like

1994
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 6: a real thing and it's not like you have a

1995
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 6: group of people that tweet things, that post things on

1996
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 6: social media, and we tend to think that this is

1997
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 6: what the world is feeling and it's not a real thing,

1998
01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 6: like these are just a very very small cluster of

1999
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 6: people sprinkled on the Internet that get upset about certain

2000
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 6: things and they tweet it out and they post pictures

2001
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 6: and post videos, and we think that the entire world

2002
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,639
Speaker 6: feels like this, where there's ninety percent of the world

2003
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 6: that don't even know that that's even happening. Like it's

2004
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 6: just like this is just one of those moments. We

2005
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 6: won't even be talking about this tomorrow.

2006
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 5: Mom.

2007
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 1: If you think that there is a very small transphobic community, it's.

2008
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 6: A huge transform You are No, I'm saying that cares

2009
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:42,679
Speaker 6: about this bud light shit.

2010
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 5: Oh oh well, this is I think this is like

2011
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:50,839
Speaker 5: most times where it's acceptable to be ignorant and racist

2012
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 5: or transphobic or whatever just to hate someone. They're using

2013
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 5: bud light as the vehicle to show how they feel

2014
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 5: about another group. They can't just outwardly hate Dylan for

2015
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 5: being a they have to hate bud Light, who now

2016
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 5: supports the people that they hate. So now it's like,

2017
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:07,599
Speaker 5: oh shit, I have permission to shit on a brand,

2018
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 5: and I can. That brand is now forever in my

2019
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 5: mind attached to the thing that I really fucking hate. Cool. So,

2020
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 5: like we look at artists like this guy, this country

2021
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 5: singer Travis Tritt, who said, fuck all Anheuser Busch products

2022
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 5: take him off my tour hospitality rider.

2023
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 2: That thirty rack of bud Light is really going to

2024
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 2: kill him.

2025
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 5: And then and then we also get the video from

2026
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:29,639
Speaker 5: Kid Rock of him loading up an ar and airing

2027
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 5: it out on like two cases of bud Light. So

2028
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:34,639
Speaker 5: it's just a vehicle for them to be comfortable enough

2029
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:37,839
Speaker 5: to project hate on a product rather than the people.

2030
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 6: And you talking about two men that literally I haven't

2031
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 6: seen Kid Rock in out before this video.

2032
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 3: I haven't seen anything kid Rock. I don't know what

2033
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 3: he's doing.

2034
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:50,680
Speaker 2: This is where bud Light fucked up. And it's not

2035
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 2: hiring a trans influencer. I would assume the right would

2036
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 2: not know who the trans influencer is. Right, it looks

2037
01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 2: just like a white woman. They should have put her

2038
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 2: on the can to see right wings response at who's

2039
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 2: this hot white chick that's on the can? And then

2040
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 2: in a month they go transgender, you're gay. That's how

2041
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 2: bud Light should have done this campaign. They should have

2042
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 2: put that woman on there, not said she was trans.

2043
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 2: Watched all these fucking uh tailgaters at the fucking Eagles gang, Oh,

2044
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:22,639
Speaker 2: who's this hot?

2045
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 3: Who's this hot white chick?

2046
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 5: I love that accent? Put the QR coder only on

2047
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 5: the can.

2048
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 2: And then and then like a month later, during some

2049
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:35,720
Speaker 2: really white sporting event or the Country Music Awards, they

2050
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:39,639
Speaker 2: do a fucking commercial where that woman comes on camera

2051
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 2: and it's like, used to be a dude, ha cut camera.

2052
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 3: That's a sick bud Nobody is that a better campaign.

2053
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 3: Nobody's gonna stop drinking butt light. That's not this.

2054
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:51,760
Speaker 2: Also, transgender people are not gonna start drinking but light.

2055
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:54,560
Speaker 5: This is not this is not all they own selters.

2056
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 6: This is this is why this is just stupid, because

2057
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 6: this isn't gonna do anything bud bud Light is still

2058
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 6: going to be selling and Bush is not gonna lose

2059
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:03,600
Speaker 6: any money behind this.

2060
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:06,560
Speaker 3: This is just ignorance, a small group of ignorant.

2061
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 6: People being upset about stupid ship, Like this is what

2062
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 6: this is what I mean by it really doesn't matter.

2063
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 6: Like people get upset and offended by a ship, and

2064
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 6: it's like, this isn't gonna affect anything, like you being

2065
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 6: ignorant is not going to affect anything, like and bush

2066
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 6: will be fine, but it will still be selling at

2067
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 6: all these events, like nobody cares, Like nobody cares that

2068
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:28,879
Speaker 6: you're offended by this dumb shit because you're ignorant. You're ignorant.

2069
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,559
Speaker 6: If you're transphobic, that's just your ignorance. But you can't

2070
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,719
Speaker 6: project your ignorance out and think that people are gonna

2071
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 6: be like, oh, yeah, I agree, let's not drink but light,

2072
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 6: Like what an interesting round.

2073
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 2: But you're not so much ignorant as you are just bored. Yeah,

2074
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 2: I'll get a hobby.

2075
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, beers was definitely out of bullets and you had

2076
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 6: to purchase those beers.

2077
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 3: That that goes back.

2078
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 2: To those and those bullets.

2079
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, like that goes back to when they used to

2080
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 6: purchase CDs and albums and bullo and it's like, I

2081
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 6: don't care what you.

2082
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:56,679
Speaker 3: Do with those CDs.

2083
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 2: After my second week numbers are great, Like I don't

2084
01:25:59,160 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 2: get by.

2085
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 6: Actually go buy all of my albums out of the

2086
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 6: store and burn them.

2087
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 3: I don't care. It's just it's just stupid, ignorant ship.

2088
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 5: This is the crowd too that loves you know, the

2089
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:13,639
Speaker 5: football games, basketball, a lot of sporting event crowd all

2090
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 5: those arenas only sell and Heiser Busch.

2091
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 3: So you're gonna go to the game now you only

2092
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 3: got bud light.

2093
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 5: I'm not a drink over.

2094
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 3: You're gonna an alcoholic, Like what do.

2095
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 5: You hate your life?

2096
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, like strink the beer, to drink the beer, and

2097
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 3: they're going.

2098
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 1: To drink the can with the trans woman on it, Like.

2099
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 6: I don't care because they not even see the can

2100
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 6: because you know, white people have loved those little.

2101
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:37,760
Speaker 3: You know, white people love those the can.

2102
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 5: We should make them shotgun it, so put the whole in,

2103
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 5: you know, like on on her. I don't know if

2104
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 5: it's whatever, the decision was made, if it's there or not,

2105
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 5: but then shotgun it all. Then it's like your boom

2106
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 5: you need.

2107
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 2: Actually that's a great you need. I think that's part

2108
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 2: of add that to the campaign that I.

2109
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 5: Was there, you go suggesting that it's like a shotgun

2110
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:56,080
Speaker 5: case race.

2111
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 2: And on top of that, because you know Twitter, they

2112
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:03,559
Speaker 2: allowed you can show what ever, if that transgender did

2113
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 2: did keep you know, kept the equipment, it would be funny.

2114
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 2: A month later that on Twitter she actually pulls her

2115
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 2: dick out with the bud Light camp just to show

2116
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 2: why can't she.

2117
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 5: Just be That's how she pierces it for the shotgun

2118
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:17,040
Speaker 5: would hurt? He hooks her dicking?

2119
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:17,600
Speaker 4: It can't she?

2120
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 3: It is funny?

2121
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 6: Why she Why can't she just drink a butt like

2122
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 6: like you gotta pull.

2123
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 5: It my cap.

2124
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 2: My campaign is to prove that these transphobic, racist guys

2125
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 2: are one dumb two thinks she's a woman and would

2126
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 2: fuck her. Then a month later they find out not

2127
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:38,600
Speaker 2: you know, thought it was you.

2128
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 6: You're giving them too much credit. I think even if

2129
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 6: they knew it was a trans they would fuck.

2130
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 5: I mean, we've seen what that Republican Congress when they're drunk.

2131
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 3: But yeah, it is just watched like why you what

2132
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 3: are you mad at? You know what?

2133
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 2: I'm outraged that bud light costs twelve dollars at a

2134
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:53,760
Speaker 2: Sporning event.

2135
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 6: That's what I'm outraged there, like y'all be paying fifteen

2136
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 6: dollars for a couple of it.

2137
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 2: Better come with a transgender you.

2138
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 3: Better transgender gentlemen man right here kidding me? Sit that

2139
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 3: translady right next to me at this game? Are you

2140
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 3: kidding me? For fifteen dollars, you gotta comport his fucking beer.

2141
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:19,759
Speaker 2: This is just more more bullshit. But it's okay.

2142
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:23,800
Speaker 5: There's another uh controversy. It's not even controversy. It's just

2143
01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 5: the same people getting mad. Ru Paul has an official

2144
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 5: doll at Build a Bear, so you can imagine this

2145
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 5: butt like crowd also love that news because they're so

2146
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 5: invested in Build a Bear.

2147
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:37,919
Speaker 1: Well, they feel like, okay, so so I'm not speaking

2148
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:39,639
Speaker 1: for them, but I'm speaking for them.

2149
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 3: They are.

2150
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 1: They feel like it's being forced in their faces. That's

2151
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 1: what they feel the same way where they talk, where

2152
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 1: they say they're talking about it in schools, it's on

2153
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 1: TVs and every shows, it's on their beer kids. Now

2154
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 1: it's in their build of bears. They feel like it's

2155
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 1: being forced on them.

2156
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 5: You can also just not buy Black Bears were enough.

2157
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 2: It's like me and Jem and I can't even go

2158
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 2: hunting anymore and go to Build Bears.

2159
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:04,600
Speaker 5: In front of me, I get a bud light and

2160
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:05,600
Speaker 5: building bear anymore.

2161
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:07,599
Speaker 3: Full day of fishing, I gotta go to build a bears.

2162
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 4: See this, that's actually really good.

2163
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 2: This here's my real voice.

2164
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 5: This is not my re read this quote.

2165
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 6: This Wold company is trying to bring satan into your homes.

2166
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 5: It's stuffy.

2167
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 3: That's a fire beer. I don't care what anyone I don't.

2168
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 3: You're not doing. Yeah, you know that's satan right there.

2169
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:30,680
Speaker 6: That's not just the doll that's saying what I will say?

2170
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 1: Does Ruaul have a huge child?

2171
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:35,640
Speaker 6: I thought about to go somewhere else with that. I

2172
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 6: was about to like, ma'am, I don't know, Hugh, never

2173
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 6: seen it. I don't know what you're about to know

2174
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 6: what I'm saying?

2175
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:43,879
Speaker 1: Does ul have a huge child? Fucking audience?

2176
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:44,880
Speaker 5: Sweet?

2177
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 3: No, But that's why people are.

2178
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 6: People are upset because they feel like this is this

2179
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 6: is this is something for children, and the fact that

2180
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 6: this is a grown adult male.

2181
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:57,639
Speaker 4: You know how many adults by build of bears.

2182
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 2: Genis Smith says this is not good. When my son

2183
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 2: was little, we went to build a bear many times.

2184
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:05,639
Speaker 2: It was so much fun. I sure wouldn't go now.

2185
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:09,080
Speaker 2: I felt probably pretty fun.

2186
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, damn Jenis Smith.

2187
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, listen, I understand how some people could

2188
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:17,640
Speaker 6: feel offended, but it's it's other things like I saw it,

2189
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 6: this is this is now, this is just whatever I'm

2190
01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:25,439
Speaker 6: talking about, like people being offended by things Like I

2191
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 6: saw a clip where there were certain books that were.

2192
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:29,400
Speaker 3: In schools, like in elementary schools.

2193
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:35,440
Speaker 6: That had it was like incest in uh a rape. Yeah,

2194
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 6: well yes, but there were there were there were some

2195
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:41,559
Speaker 6: books that were available in these libraries that was like,

2196
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:43,960
Speaker 6: how do we not know that these books are in

2197
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:46,600
Speaker 6: shelves at our kids' schools in the library, like with

2198
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:49,680
Speaker 6: this type of language in it, with these type of images.

2199
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 4: Reading.

2200
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:52,800
Speaker 1: All right, but let's be honest. When I was a child,

2201
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:55,639
Speaker 1: I was reading when I was an elementary, a child

2202
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 1: called it. Does anybody remember that?

2203
01:30:58,479 --> 01:30:58,919
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2204
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:01,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was like required fucking reading and that.

2205
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:03,799
Speaker 5: Was not and that was abused.

2206
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:06,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, like we're not. Also we grew up, we're reading

2207
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 1: like Harry Potter books and ship. There was all types

2208
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 1: of Erry books.

2209
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:11,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was Shakespeare Ship that was required.

2210
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:15,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, of mouse, mice, of mice and men. Yeah, there

2211
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 1: was all types of violent, horrible ship that we were

2212
01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 1: reading as kids.

2213
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 2: And the animal farm metaphor exactly.

2214
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:25,080
Speaker 4: Do you remember what they called Jim.

2215
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 2: I've thus forgot what they called Jim.

2216
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 3: No, I didn't read that ship.

2217
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:33,640
Speaker 4: Oh okay, good, Maybe it's better that way.

2218
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:37,920
Speaker 2: But they got really specific and explaining Jim in a

2219
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 2: weird way.

2220
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:43,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, Huckleberry called him, and we're Jim nigga Jim.

2221
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he through the hard e R.

2222
01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:45,439
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2223
01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:47,559
Speaker 2: I think it was capitalized in the book. Yeah, just

2224
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:49,560
Speaker 2: the e n R was.

2225
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:50,760
Speaker 3: I will not read this.

2226
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:53,439
Speaker 5: Rory put it down chapter one.

2227
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 2: I don't think.

2228
01:31:57,200 --> 01:32:00,439
Speaker 5: It's like a mad fill in the blank. It's like Jim.

2229
01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:03,280
Speaker 5: Roy's like, nope, not me, my good old pal Jim

2230
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:10,679
Speaker 5: in this book audio Friendship, that's family Jim.

2231
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:13,680
Speaker 3: I would self edit like I do with rap. Yeah,

2232
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 3: you have to.

2233
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 6: Editing is a good thing, and self editing is what

2234
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:19,040
Speaker 6: people need to do before they go on social media

2235
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:20,080
Speaker 6: and tweet shit.

2236
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 2: So I don't even think I read Huckleberry Fan.

2237
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:24,320
Speaker 4: I definitely didn't, but I know that much.

2238
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, the Ken doll doesn't have a dick,

2239
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:30,839
Speaker 2: so when were they not outraged?

2240
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:31,920
Speaker 4: Then that's a great point.

2241
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:33,360
Speaker 2: And then if you had a dick, that would have

2242
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 2: been weird. So it's dulls.

2243
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're bears, but this is also for adults.

2244
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:40,680
Speaker 2: But reality, that's the.

2245
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:42,880
Speaker 1: Thing, like, out of all the people in the world,

2246
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:46,320
Speaker 1: Up Paul has a teddy Bear, and Rue Paul is not.

2247
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 1: He's not for children, like he's for adults. So that's

2248
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 1: that's the point that I kind of understand, Like, Okay, well,

2249
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 1: what the fuck is the point? So I can't be

2250
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:56,840
Speaker 1: mad when it seems like you guys are forcing this

2251
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:59,120
Speaker 1: in our faces, because like, this is forced to me,

2252
01:32:59,320 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 1: this is forced.

2253
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 2: Is their teddy Bears only the children bear not have

2254
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:02,960
Speaker 2: other characters?

2255
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 1: Yeah they do, I'm sure they do, and I'm sure

2256
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:07,320
Speaker 1: there are people that children know who the fuck they are.

2257
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, but this is for adults.

2258
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:11,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure Football has children fans, but he's not a

2259
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:13,200
Speaker 1: children's entertainer.

2260
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:15,400
Speaker 5: Yeah. Also, yeah, to Edden's point, not all bill de

2261
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:19,760
Speaker 5: Bears are markets for children. They're there. They've become collectors items.

2262
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:22,559
Speaker 4: People like a lot of adults, growing adults collect action

2263
01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:23,559
Speaker 4: figures all the time.

2264
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:25,080
Speaker 2: It's a big Valancine's Day thing.

2265
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:27,439
Speaker 5: This is a limited release too, so it is they're

2266
01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:29,200
Speaker 5: like trying to create a novelty behind it.

2267
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:32,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you'll think that there are double standards in

2268
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:32,599
Speaker 3: being gay.

2269
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 5: Yes, wait what you're saying between men and men versus women?

2270
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:40,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes, you just said that men can't be bisexual.

2271
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:42,880
Speaker 2: So but women are also super homophobic because you guys

2272
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:44,920
Speaker 2: shame us. You call us gay when we're not as

2273
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 2: an insult, I have already say he's gay.

2274
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:52,040
Speaker 1: Sorry, Where do you think that insult came from being gay?

2275
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:56,280
Speaker 4: Men? Specifically?

2276
01:33:57,200 --> 01:33:59,639
Speaker 5: That came from men.

2277
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:03,640
Speaker 6: I just think that that was sorry, sorry, And I

2278
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:05,760
Speaker 6: think double stands. I think double stands are healthy. But

2279
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:09,200
Speaker 6: there's definitely double stands. That's just the world for sure.

2280
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 1: Well like like what, like what double standards are healthy?

2281
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 3: Well, I mean exactly, like if a guy.

2282
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:19,840
Speaker 6: This is why it's crazy, because if a guy has

2283
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 6: a sexual experience with a guy just one time in

2284
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 6: his life and never does it again, he's still gay forever.

2285
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 2: But you, like, we've had this conversation before and you

2286
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:31,600
Speaker 2: said that and we all said like, no, I don't know,

2287
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:33,560
Speaker 2: and he was like, no, that's big gay.

2288
01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:35,360
Speaker 5: Yeah you did say that.

2289
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 2: I think so as well.

2290
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 4: And I'm still saying so if a girl has a girl,

2291
01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 4: you don't think that she's big gay.

2292
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:44,919
Speaker 5: For no.

2293
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:54,040
Speaker 3: Fact. But she's great, that's a great time. Actually, what's

2294
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 3: her number? Hang out?

2295
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 6: But like if if if a woman knows, like damarus,

2296
01:34:58,439 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 6: if you know, if you have a friend guy and

2297
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:04,200
Speaker 6: you know that he had sexual he had a sexual

2298
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:05,520
Speaker 6: experience with a guy before.

2299
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:08,280
Speaker 1: And he didn't like it, well say he hated it.

2300
01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:11,600
Speaker 3: I'm sure you can never not see him sucking in

2301
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:12,080
Speaker 3: God's dick.

2302
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 2: I've heard plenty of women say that they could never

2303
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:17,800
Speaker 2: deal or date, like really be in a relationship with

2304
01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 2: a guy that was either bisexual or had male.

2305
01:35:20,160 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 3: Can you experience I'm asking you women, you can? You can?

2306
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 3: You can you date a god that had sex with

2307
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:28,639
Speaker 3: one guy in his life?

2308
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:28,920
Speaker 5: No?

2309
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:29,559
Speaker 1: I cannot?

2310
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 3: Why not?

2311
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:34,519
Speaker 1: Because I just I am extremely like I'm bad, I

2312
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 1: am toxic with the way I think about men and

2313
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:38,960
Speaker 1: women like so I am not the person to ask.

2314
01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 1: But I know plenty of women who do date bisexual men.

2315
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:44,840
Speaker 5: But you set the standard. That's the point you speak

2316
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 5: for all women. Well no, not just demerits too. But

2317
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:49,120
Speaker 5: there's an example that we're in our seeing. Like yesterday,

2318
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:51,720
Speaker 5: my good friend who you both met in Houston's been

2319
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:56,760
Speaker 5: here was seeing someone who came out. You met her too,

2320
01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:01,559
Speaker 5: as by too. He confided in her. He said, Hey,

2321
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 5: I really like you. I want to date you, but

2322
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 5: I also would like to experiment with men. I think

2323
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:09,240
Speaker 5: I'm like attracted at both. And she was like, fuck that. Now.

2324
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 6: No man has ever said to a woman you like women,

2325
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:15,639
Speaker 6: get away from you.

2326
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 1: Wait, hold on, as the bisexual. No, let me tell

2327
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:29,040
Speaker 1: y'all are very very y'all.

2328
01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:30,760
Speaker 5: Are very not for real.

2329
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:34,720
Speaker 1: I'm telling you as a bisexual women woman. Yes, there are.

2330
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:37,600
Speaker 1: I have had men who left over that ship. A

2331
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:41,360
Speaker 1: lot of men who know a lot of.

2332
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:44,439
Speaker 3: Men like straight. Tell me.

2333
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 1: I've had men straight telling me I don't like that gey.

2334
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:49,760
Speaker 1: Believe I swear to there are. There are more than

2335
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 1: you would think.

2336
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 3: But I feel like that's some insecure that's great to say.

2337
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:54,840
Speaker 3: You know why they don't like that, that that gay ship? Yeah,

2338
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 3: because they're gay. That's how I wait.

2339
01:36:57,360 --> 01:36:58,920
Speaker 4: No, that's not what I said.

2340
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:02,640
Speaker 6: When I say, man that doesn't like a woman that

2341
01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:05,720
Speaker 6: likes women, you're gay or Gayay.

2342
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:08,760
Speaker 5: The original point was women create that double standard. They do.

2343
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:10,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure, because, like I said, a woman if

2344
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:13,439
Speaker 6: a guy, if a guy has a sexual experience with

2345
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:15,679
Speaker 6: one guy, say it happened fifteen years ago on spring

2346
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:16,879
Speaker 6: break in Fort Lauderdale.

2347
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 5: That's very specific.

2348
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:23,280
Speaker 3: I mean I figured would experience. I feel like a

2349
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:25,640
Speaker 3: guy would have a experience on a spring break.

2350
01:37:26,160 --> 01:37:28,720
Speaker 6: Like you know how white boys get sa diplow say

2351
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:32,640
Speaker 6: he on toy yah, he like wherever the party is

2352
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:33,960
Speaker 6: that it might happen with a guy.

2353
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:36,920
Speaker 2: I feel like there's enough women at spring break he

2354
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:37,600
Speaker 2: wanted to do that.

2355
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:39,640
Speaker 3: I'm with you any right, So let's just say it

2356
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 3: happened one time.

2357
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:43,640
Speaker 6: The marriage said she cannot be with a guy that

2358
01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:45,360
Speaker 6: had a sexual experience.

2359
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:45,559
Speaker 3: With another guy.

2360
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:48,680
Speaker 6: I'm just saying that. I'm not saying you're wrong. I

2361
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 6: do know some guys that I'm saying. I think you're

2362
01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:55,719
Speaker 6: speaking to, like girls that date women all the time

2363
01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:57,760
Speaker 6: type of thing with guys like nah, I ain't really

2364
01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 6: into that. I'm talking about if you just had a

2365
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:04,479
Speaker 6: sexuspriience with one of your homegirls one night, you tell

2366
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:05,920
Speaker 6: your boyfriend that he's not leaving you.

2367
01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:08,640
Speaker 1: I literally got left for that exact ding no no, no,

2368
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:14,000
Speaker 1: but no, no no, you're vibe my first sexual experience

2369
01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:17,599
Speaker 1: with a woman. My boyfriend broke up with me when

2370
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 1: he found out about it. How are you telling you?

2371
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:21,720
Speaker 1: I was eighteen years old, but how was he He

2372
01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:26,479
Speaker 1: was twenty five, Jesus, I'm telling you twenty four. I'm

2373
01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:29,439
Speaker 1: telling you that there are men who, especially older men,

2374
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:32,840
Speaker 1: do not like that gay shit. They don't like There's

2375
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 1: plenty of them. Sure, the majority, yes, think it's cute, right,

2376
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:36,760
Speaker 1: but a lot of them do not.

2377
01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:38,960
Speaker 5: Think it's because he tried to be as well, but

2378
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 5: he couldn't. He never found out that you did.

2379
01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:42,280
Speaker 1: He don't even know that. He was never trying to

2380
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:43,760
Speaker 1: get a three of He never met her.

2381
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 2: And no, no mars is saying she'll datum, but he

2382
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:50,960
Speaker 2: doesn't deserve a build a bear. That's all. Leave it

2383
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:52,559
Speaker 2: out of the mall.

2384
01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:54,960
Speaker 1: But I just feel like men set that standard because

2385
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:57,880
Speaker 1: women will accept the bisexual men before men will accept

2386
01:38:57,920 --> 01:38:58,840
Speaker 1: the bisexual.

2387
01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 5: I say, otherwise women will, women.

2388
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:04,800
Speaker 1: Will so, y'all, So women will accept that a man

2389
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 1: could be bisexual before men will accept that a man

2390
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:07,320
Speaker 1: can be I.

2391
01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:11,160
Speaker 2: Think, actually, you just don't think you're accepted.

2392
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:12,920
Speaker 3: And then y'all don't even accept it though.

2393
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:15,280
Speaker 5: Look at the rhetoric you start like, y'all don't.

2394
01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:17,680
Speaker 3: Even accept it though, But y'all will accept it before that.

2395
01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:19,679
Speaker 1: Will accept it, will accept that you can be bisexual,

2396
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:21,800
Speaker 1: we won't be attracted to it. That's the difference. Y'all

2397
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Speaker 1: won't accept that a man can be bisexual.

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Speaker 5: We all do.

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Speaker 2: Only one that being by but also biphobic is I'm

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Speaker 2: not by phobic.

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Speaker 4: That's a lot.

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01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:36,599
Speaker 1: Y'all called me homophobic, right, call you homophobic. I said

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Speaker 1: that you're not homophobic. But I just the same way

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01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:40,360
Speaker 1: that I don't think that if you won't date a

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Speaker 1: trans person, you're not transphobic. But you can be on

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Speaker 1: a track.

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01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:44,919
Speaker 3: You can can have preferences.

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Speaker 6: And I think that's where the world has gotten lost,

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Speaker 6: where they started feeling like we can't have preferences.

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Speaker 3: Can have a preference. It's okay to have a preference.

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Speaker 3: I don't like Chicken or bud Light. I don't like

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Speaker 3: bud Light. I don't like this. I don't.

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Speaker 6: But now I'm not saying I don't like bud Light

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01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:01,200
Speaker 6: because y'all pull a trans transsexual woman.

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Speaker 3: On the camp.

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Speaker 6: I'm over stellar type of guy, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I like the stella.

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Speaker 6: Is what I'm saying. So you like, Well, no, that's

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01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:11,800
Speaker 6: not what I'm saying. I know if dislike him, but

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Speaker 6: that's not what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: What if Stella does a campaign with a transgender and

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01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 2: it's called Stella got her dick back.

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Speaker 3: Ah campaign.

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01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 1: Advertising?

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Speaker 5: So yeah there?

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Speaker 6: Oh man, well listen man, thank you for another episode.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 6: It's been great on this audio clusterfuck of a journey

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Speaker 6: that we've been on.

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 2: Next episode we're getting into this cash app founder uh

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Speaker 2: being stabbed to at the rest in peace to Bobby.

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Speaker 2: But we're going to get into.

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Speaker 6: This wild story, wild story that came out. But you

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Speaker 6: know again, it just happened. Wait for some more information

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Speaker 6: to come out on that. So yeah, we'll be back

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Speaker 6: in a few days. I don't know what y'all doing

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Speaker 6: this week.

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Speaker 3: In any plans?

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Speaker 6: Uh subscribe to the patreon new rory en mal backslash.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. You know what the fuck?

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Speaker 5: We dropped the Patreon yesterday. Yeah, we go over complexes list.

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Speaker 2: Check it out to the entire thing. I thought it

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Speaker 2: was pretty entertaining. Yep, so go see that list.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, the list was entertaining the listen. The list

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01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:09,639
Speaker 3: was a close nineteen is my favorite. They had sway

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Speaker 3: at number twenty three. How disrespectful are we in hip hop?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 3: What is that sway. This is sway we talk about. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Oh man, whatever, man, listen, man, we'll be back in

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Speaker 6: a few days. Man, y'all be safe, have a great weekend.

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01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:23,240
Speaker 6: I may tell you a joke, won't tell you any lives.

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Speaker 3: I'm that nigga. He's just ginger at no worry.

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Speaker 5: And now