1 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: Welcome another episode of Crush City Territory. My name is 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: Chandler Roam with Tyler Stafford and Josh Reddick, who is 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 2: not on a mountain anymore. How was your How was 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: your run that day? JA, after you got off? 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: How was your run? Everything go? Everything go okay. 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 3: Well I didn't have to go with the urgent care singer, 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 3: So I call that a win anytime you're on the mountain. 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's smooth. The only thing we kind of uh, 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 3: we haven't had snow in about a week here, whether 11 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 3: outside I think is about My watch is saying forty 12 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 3: five degrees and we've had that for about the last 13 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 3: four or five days. We've we've been very minimal in 14 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 3: the underlayers, but it doesn't make for very good slopes 15 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: and snow. Mm hmmm. 16 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: It's a ball. Me eighty in Houston right now. My 17 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: air condition, my air condition is on behind me. It's 18 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: February sixth. This is this is stupid. 19 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 3: Global warming is a real thing, man. 20 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: Oh man. 21 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: So the Astros have signed somebody since the last time 22 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: we talked. It is not Alex Bregnant. It's Ben Gamble, 23 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 2: who you may remember from his sixty nine plate appearance 24 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: stint with the team toward the end of last year, 25 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,919 Speaker 2: actually played very well for them. Fractured his fibula running 26 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 2: into a wall and Anaheim that low wall and right 27 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: field and Anaheim. Josh, I'm sure you're very familiar with 28 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: that foul territory. But Ben Gamble fractures leg there. But 29 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: he is going to be a full go for spring training. 30 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: The Astros gave him. It's a major league deal with 31 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 2: only two hundred thousand dollars in guaranteed money. He's got 32 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: a million more dollars that can become guaranteed money if 33 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 2: he makes the team out of spring training, and Josh, 34 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: I feel like he's a He's got a roster spot 35 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: to lose. Given the complexion of this outfield, given how 36 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: right handed this lineup is, Ben Gamble hits left handed. 37 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: This is a guy that they have seen have success. 38 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: For them career wise. 39 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: Ninety six plus guy not you know, doesn't have maybe 40 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: the career stats that you would you would look for, but. 41 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: This is kind of the guy that we're looking for. 42 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: A veteran that they have seen have success that can 43 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: stand in one of the corner outfields and provide some 44 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 2: depth from the left side. 45 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, without a doubt. I mean this pretty much 46 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 3: flates that, you know, we keep out two bay on 47 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 3: the infield, which is obviously the bigger picture here. Keep 48 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 3: him where he's healthy, where he's one healthy, where he's comfortable. 49 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 3: But you get a guy who's not only been a 50 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 3: good hitter, but a guy who's played some superb defense 51 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 3: for the better part of his career. I mean playing 52 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: against that guy, I could name several times that he's 53 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 3: taken hits away from myself from other people. So just 54 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: a guy who's one familiar with with not only the ballpark, 55 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 3: but he's familiar with that division. He played in the 56 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 3: West for years to cut years, and for him to 57 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 3: be able to have that comfortability on every ballpark in 58 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 3: that division and be able to come back into that 59 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: clubhouse where he already knows the majority of everybody, it's 60 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 3: going to help him a lot. But with your roster 61 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 3: spot comedy, I mean this, this guy has to do 62 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 3: something barring sort of dying, to not get a roster 63 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 3: fight on the Houston Astros. So this is a guy 64 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 3: that you know, I think they really wanted. You know, 65 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 3: you don't really hear anything about him, which is really 66 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 3: the crazy part you talked about. We talked about Verdugo 67 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 3: a little bit, and with Bregman, you know, who knows 68 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 3: what's going to happen there with with him. But I 69 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 3: think this is a very good safety net signing for 70 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 3: the Astros. He has the potential to be a very 71 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 3: good player for them, and like I said, it keeps 72 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 3: hose on the infield, which I think is what we 73 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: all wanted. 74 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, Josh, I mean he ran into an outfield wall. 75 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 4: I know you've done that many times in your career. 76 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 4: Fraction Tophibula. I can't imagine coming back to work after 77 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 4: fracturing a leg. How do you how do you like 78 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 4: get over that as an outfielder and and keep playing 79 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 4: as aggressively as as you need to in the outfield. 80 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 3: Well, I think that mindset is there to you know, 81 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 3: want to go make a play whenever you can. So 82 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 3: I don't think the mindset changes there. Maybe a little 83 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 3: bit more cautious on the situation of the game, but 84 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 3: you know, that's so hard to process when you're out 85 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 3: there running full speed at something like that. And the 86 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 3: good thing is, I think probably ninety eight percent of 87 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 3: ballparks have padding everywhere. We all know Houston put in 88 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: padding down that right field line for years, truly when 89 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 3: I broke my wrist there in twenty thirteen. But I 90 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 3: think the best part about that is knowing that everything 91 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 3: has padding, and you know, different padding plays differently. There's 92 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: padding that you know you can bounce right off of. 93 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 3: There's padding that doesn't give at all. So I think 94 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 3: he's just got to pick his spots to where, you know, 95 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 3: something like that. The short wall probably had effect on 96 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 3: him to where he did break it in an awkward way, 97 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: because to do that, that's a pretty awkward break from 98 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 3: looking back at the film from watching it. But I 99 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 3: don't think that changes his mindset. He gets out there, 100 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 3: he's gonna bust his butt out there to make any 101 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: play he can. I think that's just something that is 102 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 3: going to be a factor for him to not really worry. 103 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 4: About what's the comfiest outfield wall? 104 00:04:54,440 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 3: Oh compiut, you know, I it's say minute made, it's 105 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 3: it's it's sorry dyking. So it's gonna take us some time. 106 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 3: You were so bear with us. It's it's pretty easy 107 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 3: with there because you know is shallow as you can 108 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 3: play there. It's easy just to play deep at at 109 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 3: that ballpark, and you know, the hardest part is that 110 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 3: kind of like the bullpen layout. But then it's chain 111 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: link anyway. But there's different, there's all kinds of ballpark. 112 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 3: Seattle is a very easy ballpark to run into the 113 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: wall because it gives really well. Anaheim not the best 114 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 3: for a right fielder because you go into those that 115 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 3: wall and all it is is just you know, I 116 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 3: think it's four by fours or brick right behind where 117 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 3: the bleachers are, and then you got the short porch. 118 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 3: The only say, partner to run into the right field 119 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 3: there is where the gate opens for the you know, 120 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 3: the batting tunnel to come out and the ground screw 121 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 3: to come out and do their thing. But and then 122 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 3: you can flip it around when you look at like, 123 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 3: you know, there's obviously Wrigley Field where you're probably not 124 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 3: going to run into a wall unless it's you know, 125 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: the playoffs or something like that, because nobody wants to 126 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 3: run into brick ball at all. And then you figure 127 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: in like Finway, I ran into Finway's monster doesn't give 128 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 3: one bit. Then you gotta worry about the rivets that 129 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 3: are hanging out So there's all kinds of ballparks, but 130 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 3: for the most part about I'd say about twenty five 131 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 3: twenty six ballparks are pretty safe to run into. 132 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: And then we'd be remiss if we didn't talk about 133 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: Dodger Stadium with Aaron Judge. That cost Aaron Judge a 134 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: season based I mean he still kept playing. The broke 135 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 2: his toe on the on what was it concrete? 136 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I mean, you've played 137 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: that right field. 138 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 2: He ran into the broke his toe and that cost 139 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 2: him a season, a couple of years. 140 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's about a four inch you know, section of 141 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 3: concrete at the bottom of those of that outfield. And 142 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 3: you know, the worst part about Dodger Stadium is from 143 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 3: playing there as a Dodger and then going and playing 144 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 3: there against them. They don't take very good care of 145 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 3: their warning track, and at least they didn't in the past. 146 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 3: You can go back to videos of twenty twenty. I 147 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: think it was Framber was pitching during the COVID season 148 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 3: and they gave it back to back homers that I 149 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,559 Speaker 3: could have very easily caught. When I went to go jump, 150 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 3: my feet just sunk because it was so soft. And 151 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 3: I had no way of getting off the ground. So 152 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 3: once you get about three feet from the wall there, 153 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 3: I don't know if they fixed it now, it would 154 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 3: always just soften up like beach sand. And it was 155 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: always a horrible, horrible way to go back to a 156 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: wall because even if you're not jumping, you know, that's 157 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 3: the easy way to roll an ankle, break an ankle. 158 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 3: You know, you roll over and then you hit your 159 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 3: shoulder wrong. There's so many things that can go wrong. 160 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: And you know, I can look back at like Oakland, 161 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 3: you know, when you when Oakland was still a ballparking 162 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 3: playing there. Going into found Territory, they had that same 163 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: concrete slab as well, but the Colosseum also had their 164 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 3: drainage pipes down there, so they had like the little 165 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 3: I don't know what you would call it, like drainage 166 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 3: type plates, plates whatever, and then coupal times I slipped 167 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 3: on those because that's where they just spray everything out. 168 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 3: But yeah, when you look at Dodger Stadium, there's just 169 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 3: all kinds of factors that kind of play into that 170 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 3: don't really make sense. And you know, get all the 171 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 3: money in the world, you can, you can you can 172 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 3: fix this you got everything you at your disposal to 173 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 3: figure that out to not only say guys coming in 174 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 3: that don't play every day, but you don't want your 175 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 3: guys running out there and having have Dave Roberts sit 176 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 3: in the post game going well, I don't know why 177 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: our outfield, our warning teck isn't as sturdy as it 178 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 3: should be, and now Mookie Betts has got to go 179 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 3: on the shell for three months because our grousetree didn't 180 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: do it right. 181 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 2: Speaking of this is actually a perfect transition. Speaking of 182 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: Mookie Betts, a guy that has played both the infield 183 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: and the outfield, I want to talk You mentioned the 184 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 2: Ben Gamble addition ostensibly should should put jose Al two 185 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 2: vay a little bit more in the infield. Talking, Joe 186 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: Spotta and Dana Brown talked to the media on Tuesday, 187 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: two days ago at the ASTROS Annual Media Luncheon, and 188 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: from my understanding, it sounds like the news didn't come 189 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: out until a day later that they had gotten Ben Gamble, 190 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: but they were down the road with Ben Gamble at 191 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: that point, so they were talking with the knowledge that 192 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 2: Ben Gamble was gonna be on the roster. It sure 193 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 2: sounds like jose al Tuova is going to see some 194 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: time in left field this year. Now, I don't know 195 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: if that'll be his primary position, but Joe spottas said 196 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,599 Speaker 2: he is looking good out there. They said his athleticism 197 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: is playing Dana Brown. Longtime scout. Obviously, I asked him 198 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: specifically to from a scouting eye, put put his eyes 199 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 2: on al tuo Van what did he see? And he 200 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: says he's his reads off the bat are good, you know, 201 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: getting into the gaps are good and and things like that. 202 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 2: So I do think we're still looking at Jose al 203 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: Tuove playing some left field this year. I'm not sure 204 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: it's full time, but they've now got enough insurance between 205 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 2: Ben gammele On Jordan Alvarez who is not going to 206 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 2: play a ton out there but but still will see 207 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 2: some time out there, and then maybe Zach Dezenzo as well, 208 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 2: and Taylor Tremmel. So they've got left right, they've got big, small, 209 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 2: They've they've got every kind of left fielder you can 210 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 2: think of to put out there. 211 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it kind of fig filled in their 212 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 3: gap that they were looking for. You say platoon, but 213 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 3: I think it becomes a platoon every day thing. For 214 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 3: Jose to be able to play, you know, four times 215 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 3: a week at second and then you go out there, 216 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 3: you know, you get that lefty matchup where you know, 217 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 3: we know how analytics plays and stuff like that, to 218 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 3: where lefties aren't going to face me lefties. So you 219 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 3: thinkure Ben will probably get that day off. And whether 220 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 3: that's your Don's day out there, two day's day out there, 221 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: I think they have plenty of pieces to fill that 222 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 3: gap to make it work. 223 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 2: Now, specifically with Altuve, this is a guy that turns 224 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 2: thirty five in May. Moving him from the infield to 225 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: the outfield, however, however much it does, you know that 226 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: that to me would put a little bit more wear 227 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: and tear on the body. You inherently, in the outfield, 228 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 2: you gotta run more, you gotta cover more ground. They 229 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: can stick him in left field at Dyke and Park, 230 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: and obviously it's a smaller outfield, but it's a it's 231 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 2: inherently playing the outfield is more strenuous at times and 232 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: playing the infield. So with that in mind, a reporter, 233 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 2: not me asked Dana Brown. Asked Dana Brown whether he 234 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 2: thought whether they were being gonna be mindful of the 235 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 2: wear and tear that it was going to put on 236 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: al Twove's body. And I've got the quote here for 237 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 2: guys that for people that are watching YouTube, for people 238 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 2: that for people that are watching YouTube, you can read 239 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 2: the quote. I'm going to read it out loud for 240 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 2: those that aren't watching on YouTube. This was Dana's response 241 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 2: to how does the potential wear and tear an Altuve 242 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: playing left enter your calculus? Dana responded, I don't think 243 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: it's that much extra wear, other than it's a longer 244 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: run from the dugout I played outfield. It gets boring 245 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: out there. You don't do much and you may not 246 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 2: get a fly ball for a long time. Maybe if 247 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: it was center there's more wear because you have to 248 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 2: run to both sides, both gaps. But I think he's 249 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: probably going to get bored at times. 250 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 3: So I'm so I'm gonna refer just to one sentence, 251 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 3: and I'm looking at my phone because you text me, 252 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 3: text it to me. The only thing I found wrong 253 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 3: with that paragraph is the comments about centerfield. I feel 254 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 3: I feel like that that could have been completely omitted 255 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 3: from that conversation. Everything else I kind of agree with, 256 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 3: you know, the wear and tear be kind of comes 257 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 3: it's irrelevant to me. I think the wear and tear 258 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 3: comments are relevant because I agree it does get boring 259 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 3: out there a lot, because especially when you have guys 260 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 3: like Fromber throwing, You're not gonna get work out there, 261 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 3: Hunter Browns on the mound, You're not You're gonna get 262 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 3: a lot of strikeouts. You're not gonna get very many things, 263 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 3: so it does get boring. I think the wear and 264 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 3: tear is kind of a comment that kind of irks 265 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 3: me a little bit because I'm going to refer back 266 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 3: to my career and playing in Oakland for four and 267 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: a half seasons, and our dugout was on the third 268 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 3: bay side and I played right field, so we know 269 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 3: how long of a run that is, and we calculated 270 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 3: it's it was close to I think if you include 271 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 3: like everything daily in a baseball I think it was 272 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 3: close to about two two and a half miles of 273 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 3: just jogging in and out of the dugout, which I 274 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 3: took as a positive because one, it kept me looser, 275 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 3: It kept my legs, you know, warmer and fresh as 276 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 3: opposed to just locking up on the bench and then 277 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 3: going out there and standing around for a little bit. 278 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 3: So I think the outfield run for him can be 279 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 3: more of a beneficial then it can be aware and 280 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 3: terry issue for him. Now, granted, the pitch clock becomes 281 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 3: a factor. Whenever you have all this, you have to 282 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 3: rush around like that. But there's ways that you can 283 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 3: kind of beat the pitch clocks where you need to 284 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 3: get out there. And but with with hose, my man's 285 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 3: on base too many times for it to be a 286 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 3: more wear and tear time thing for him. Anyway, those 287 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 3: legs have gotten a lot of miles underneath ever since 288 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 3: he stepped on a baseball field. And then and then, 289 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 3: I think that trend is just going to continue because 290 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 3: this guy is gonna be on base for you. If 291 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 3: he has to take that extra slow jog out to 292 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 3: the outfield, so be it. And we already talked about 293 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 3: two days. Is not going to be out there with 294 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 3: the guys that are going to be giving up the lot, 295 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 3: you know, the fly balls and the heart hit base. 296 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 3: He's gonna be out there with you know, the Frombers, 297 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 3: the hunter Browns or strikeout guys. So I think that 298 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 3: they can they can kind of pitter pattern and play 299 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 3: with it to where they can keep him fresher for 300 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 3: the bats and then put him back on the infield 301 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 3: for such say somebody that's you know, gonna have a 302 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 3: little bit more work for him in there. But he's 303 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 3: an infielder, but he's a middle endfielder. He has so 304 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 3: much work already through his daily basis before the game, 305 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 3: during the game, and everything else. I think the wear 306 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 3: and tear is something that we can kind of throw 307 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 3: out the window. But yeah, when you go back to 308 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 3: the cinderfield comments, you know, you get Jake Myers or 309 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 3: Chaz over there, sorry not Chaz, Jake over there to 310 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 3: kind of cover that gap for him and help him 311 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 3: out a lot more to where it's not as a 312 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 3: big a bigger thing for him. Where you have guys 313 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 3: like you know, Taylor and righter Ben, and you can 314 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 3: switch those guys right because game was the right fielder 315 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 3: as well. So you have plenty of moving pieces to 316 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 3: make sure that you know your your franchise guy in 317 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 3: a Hall of Famer is going to be just fun. 318 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 4: Is there anything too, you know, adding a new position 319 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 4: that is going to take up a lot of time 320 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 4: and brain space and things like that. How how do 321 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 4: you balance, you know, still having the right approach at 322 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 4: the plate, you know, and making sure that the rest 323 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 4: of your game stays where it is, you know, because 324 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 4: I know sometimes you hear things of oh, we want 325 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 4: this guy to d H so you can just focus 326 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 4: on hitting or whatever. Like how much does that actually 327 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 4: play into the day to day life for for somebody 328 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 4: like Altuve? 329 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 3: I think I think it all starts with having spring training. 330 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 3: Spring training becomes such a factor for him to get work, 331 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 3: to get his everything he needs to do because there's 332 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 3: so much extra time to get out there. Too many guys. 333 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 3: I mean, you got what ten outfielders out there, you 334 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 3: know what four or five four non roster invites and 335 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 3: you get your your your major league staff out there. 336 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 3: But you know, with a guy like Gary Pettis, Gary 337 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 3: has been so great of being such an outfit coach 338 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 3: out there as well. Do I miss something, you guys 339 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 3: gave me the eye look like that out We can't anyway. 340 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 3: So but yeah, I think the spring training becomes a 341 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 3: big factor for him to be able to get his 342 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,239 Speaker 3: work in, get his get his you know, his his repetition, 343 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: not only in games, but you know, you get out 344 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 3: there and we have so may the outfield drills that 345 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 3: we can run to help him get right. But to 346 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 3: the hitting side of things, I think getting him in 347 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 3: the outfield probably helps him out a little bit more 348 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 3: as a hitter because there's a lot less stuff to 349 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 3: think about out there. You go back to the boredom 350 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 3: part of things, gives you more time to assess and 351 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 3: your situation at the plate, what you're gonna do the 352 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 3: next time you get out there, because you know, as 353 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 3: an infield you I feel like your mind's running around 354 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 3: everywhere left, right, up, down the whole game, Whereas when 355 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 3: you get outfield or you're just looking at somebody, going, man, 356 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 3: I got a guy way over there, about one hundred 357 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 3: feet away, I got nobody to talk to you over here, 358 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 3: all right, So we'll just we'll see where we go 359 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 3: from here. 360 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: And you know, al Twovey is such a man of 361 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 2: the people that he's probably gonna like talk to the 362 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 2: fans box, Like he's probably gonna be having commons. He's 363 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 2: such a nice guy. But like he's not gonna turn 364 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 2: a fan down. Fan wants to have a conversation with him, 365 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: so he'll have that too. Josh, there's a on the 366 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 2: opposite part of that. Jordan has talked a lot in 367 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: the last three or four years about how he thinks 368 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 2: he is more engaged in the game when he plays defense. 369 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 2: And if you look at his numbers now, he has 370 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 2: DHD way more than he has played left field, but 371 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: his numbers as a left fielder and as a DH, 372 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: his numbers are demonstrably better as a left fielder. Offensively, 373 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: he's got higher ops he's got I think he's hitting 374 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: like three thirty in like the one hundred and so 375 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 2: something games that he has played in left field. Now, 376 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 2: again you have to take sample size into account, and 377 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 2: that is partly why I believe you know jord On 378 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: and Josh you know that she were teammates with him. 379 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 2: He has talked a lot about he wants to play 380 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 2: out there. I don't wants to be pigeonholed as a DH. 381 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 2: I think he wants to show that he is more 382 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 2: than just a guy that they give four bats to 383 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 2: a game. I think, and he has talked about being 384 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: in the outfield helps him lock in, helps him stay 385 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 2: engaged in the game. 386 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: Can you kind of speak to that and. 387 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 2: How whether you saw that with him and whether that's 388 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 2: you know what he is talking like that. 389 00:17:58,760 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: Can you kind of verbalize that a little. 390 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think it goes back to our 391 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 3: conversation about me talking about Jose being, you know, more 392 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 3: focused on hitting in that part, because I agree with 393 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 3: him as little as I DHD and my cre I 394 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 3: could not stand it. I hated it. It was kind of 395 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 3: just a day for me to get off my feet 396 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 3: from playing. And I agree because you feel like you 397 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 3: got to go to the cage every other inning to 398 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 3: keep loose, you got to sit in the video room 399 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 3: to stay locked in. I'm completely with him on that one, 400 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 3: as opposed to sitting on the bench and waiting for 401 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 3: the next to bat. And he goes back to that 402 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 3: where and tear comment. Maybe it helps him keep his 403 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 3: legs looser, Maybe it helps him keep his body to 404 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 3: where he wants to be better off, where he's not 405 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 3: in the weight room, foam rolling or riding a bike 406 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 3: or doing something to stay loose for the game. It's 407 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 3: something that it's a continuous movement and as we all know, 408 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 3: the things that you know when you get in motion, 409 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 3: ten things tend to stay in motion, and that can 410 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 3: help him out in the long run. Yeah, it's a 411 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 3: small stamplestone, but it's something that you cannot ignore when 412 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 3: the numbers really stand out like that. So I think 413 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 3: that I'm with him. He's always been preached about wanting 414 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 3: to be that guy. And if you know, if injuries 415 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 3: are you know wherein tear becomes an issue for him, 416 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 3: you know, getting that hot tub, getting that cold tub, 417 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 3: do what you gotta do to make sure that you 418 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 3: can be out there a lot more. And you know, 419 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 3: I don't know what his routine is like now, but 420 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 3: you know I was a firm believer in the hot 421 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 3: tub cold tub routine pre and post game. You know, 422 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 3: your body recovers a lot better when you're an everyday 423 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 3: player like that. So there's all kinds of different factors 424 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 3: that can play in for him. But for him to 425 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 3: be that animate and want to be out there, I 426 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 3: think he realizes how much better a player he can 427 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 3: be in a hitter he can be once he's out 428 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 3: there playing defense as well. 429 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 2: And let's not forget either. I mean, he's he's under 430 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: team control through twenty twenty eight, so who doesn't have 431 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 2: to worry about this for a while. But you add 432 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 2: even a little bit of defense to your game and 433 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 2: only enhances your value in terms of money, in terms 434 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 2: of what you could get. We did see Pete Alonzo 435 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: last night, who is not a very good He plays 436 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: first base but just kind of stands there. He's a 437 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 2: power first guy and that's all he got, and we 438 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 2: saw the deal he got, so you know that has 439 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 2: to I would imagine in the back of his mind 440 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 2: he has to be thinking about that too, even though 441 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 2: again he's under control through twenty twenty eight. This is 442 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 2: not a guy who's gonna go to a free agency 443 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 2: anytime soon. But I think as long as he can 444 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: show that he's confident out there, and he has I mean, 445 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 2: he's got a nice arm. Certainly not the quickest guy 446 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,959 Speaker 2: in the world, but I think he's more athletic maybe 447 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 2: than his stature, and maybe you would think when you 448 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 2: look at him. 449 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he gets downplayed a lot because you 450 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 3: look at how big he is, you know, with the 451 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 3: leg injuries he's had. He's more athletic than a lot 452 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 3: of people think for his size. And like you said, 453 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 3: he's got a very good, above average arm that people 454 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 3: take for granted, and it's pretty accurate from what I remember. 455 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 3: He's pretty much in the zone and we Dashers don't 456 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 3: need him to go out there play anywhere near gold 457 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 3: glove defense, because he's gonna be a guy who's gonna 458 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 3: drive in more runs than he's gonna stay on a 459 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 3: daily basis on any given day. So yeah, I mean, 460 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 3: just I'm gonna be able to be thrown out there. 461 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 3: But I'm with you, he's definitely more athletic than everybody 462 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 3: makes him out to be. And it's kind of like 463 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 3: everybody doesn't want him to be out there when in 464 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 3: reality he's he's a better option than a lot of 465 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 3: other guys around the league. And you know that's something 466 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 3: that I don't think it's gets put out there a 467 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 3: lot for him. 468 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 4: Do you guys think al too has his own outfield 469 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 4: glove yet? Borrowing someone's. 470 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 3: He's definitely borrowing someone's right now. But I guarantee you 471 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 3: Wilson probably has one either being made. If he is Stevens, 472 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 3: I think he's still with willson't I can't remember what 473 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 3: he was with either way. I don't want to get 474 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 3: anybody more prosper, but the glove company's with I guarantee 475 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 3: you there has one sent to him already without his 476 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 3: name on it, and the one with his name is 477 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 3: being made right now. 478 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 4: Chandler, I need some investigative reporting. Who's whose glove is 479 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 4: he using out there? 480 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 2: We'll find out in spring training because all the glove people, 481 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 2: all the glove people, all the equipment people come out 482 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 2: in spring training and you'll be able you'll see which 483 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: guys go to which vendors, which. 484 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: Guys meet with who. 485 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 2: Uh So I'll let you know in a week and 486 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 2: a half when we get there. 487 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 3: If I had to guess, I'm gonna go with probably 488 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 3: your done. He's probably going. I mean, Jordan's gets the outfitters, 489 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 3: you get two gloves a year. We know your dun's 490 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,479 Speaker 3: only use it one a year. Gotta have he's got 491 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 3: to have one on that got one in his locker somewhere. 492 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 3: But I guarantee if he doesn't have one of somebody 493 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,479 Speaker 3: playing there, they found one him pretty quick. I guarantee 494 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 3: KRL Schneider found him one real quick. 495 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 4: My my money's on Dubon Chandler. We need, we need 496 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 4: to find out. But that's uh, that's what we're going with. 497 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 3: Josh. 498 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 4: What you know when you're prepping for spring training as 499 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 4: a player, I mean this is coming up really soon. 500 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 4: You know, what are you doing to kind of get 501 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 4: ready for spring training, and then what is what is 502 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 4: spring training like as a player, especially as a you know, 503 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 4: maybe somebody trying to make the team right as opposed 504 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 4: to somebody who's got like a locked in roster spot. 505 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 4: I know you've been on kind of both sides of 506 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 4: that in your career, but what what does that look 507 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 4: like from a player's perspective. 508 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 3: So, I mean, I think when when you let's start 509 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 3: from the beginning. My my first big league camp was 510 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 3: oh nine with the Red Sox, and you know, all 511 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 3: you really did there was just sit there and shut up. 512 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 3: I mean it was a different game. This is sixteen 513 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 3: years ago, completely different game. You know. I was in 514 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,479 Speaker 3: a clubhouse with you know, veterans among veterans, among veterans 515 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 3: among veterans. So I was just told to And the 516 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 3: Red Sox did a great job. They would bring in 517 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 3: the rookies that they had ideas of helping out the 518 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 3: team next year. They'd fly them up to Boston for 519 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 3: like a week or two, teach them how to deal 520 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 3: with the Boston media, how to handle everything with you 521 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 3: know Peeto at that point, how to handle all that stuff. 522 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 3: So when I got to my first big league camp, 523 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 3: It was just about, you know what, I'm gonna be 524 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,719 Speaker 3: there early. I'm going to keep my mouth shut. I'm 525 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 3: going to make sure I'm where i need to be 526 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 3: at any given point. I'm not going to be the 527 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 3: person who has to have like David Ortiz walking in 528 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 3: the cage and have Josh Reddick sitting there at twenty 529 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 3: two years old when this man's about to get in 530 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 3: the case. So you make sure you get everything done 531 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 3: before all the veterans do, because that's just your first 532 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 3: time of respect you're going to earn from these guys. 533 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 3: This kid's not here to mess around. He's here to 534 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 3: work his butt off. And when I would get caught on, 535 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 3: I made sure that I was ready, you know, because 536 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 3: you don't know when you're going to play. As a 537 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 3: non roster guy, you may not play at all. There 538 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 3: were days where, excuse me, I'd go from Fort Myers 539 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 3: could gosh knows, I mean four hour road trip to 540 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 3: you know, Kasimi or whatnot and never even play, and 541 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 3: then get on the bus the next day and do 542 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 3: it all over again, and then never play. So you 543 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 3: just never know what you're gonna do. Don't show frustration, 544 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 3: don't show any emotion. Like that. Just go out there, 545 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 3: bust your ass and do what you need to do 546 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 3: to make sure everything's to where they don't have anything 547 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 3: negative to stay about you. That's the best way to 548 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 3: put it. Don't let them have anything negative stay about you, 549 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 3: because as soon as they do, you're gonna get sit 550 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 3: right back down to a minor league camp. But as 551 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 3: for preparation, you know, from when I was a non 552 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 3: roster guy, to pretty much have in my guaranteed spot, 553 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 3: the workouts in the off seasons didn't change. You know, 554 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 3: I'd come home from my season. My first month was 555 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 3: always absolutely nothing. Bodies got to recover, bodies got to 556 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 3: get everything out. And that was my video game month though. 557 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 3: I would just sit in my recliner and play video 558 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 3: games for a month, and you know, gain ten pounds 559 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 3: by munching and eating all kinds of food. So but 560 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 3: you know, you need that as a player, because there 561 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 3: would be days where I'd be sitting there playing video games. 562 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 3: Of a sudden my leg would just cramp up, and 563 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 3: I'd have to sit up and walk around and get 564 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 3: my cramp up because my body was still used to going, 565 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 3: Hey man, it's four o'clock in the afternoon. You got 566 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: to get going like and then you know, once once, 567 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,719 Speaker 3: I think that was what November. So once Decetimber kicked around, 568 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 3: I still really wasn't doing much baseball activity. I would 569 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 3: just get into the gym, do all my stuff. And 570 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 3: then when New Year's hit after, you know them holiday 571 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 3: pounds kick in and the calories kick in, you get 572 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 3: those Christmas weight in the New York kick in, then 573 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 3: the baseball starts coming in there do we start from 574 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 3: tea work to outfield work to everything I needed to 575 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 3: do to get ready. And it wasn't anything ever really intense. 576 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 3: It was kind of going back through the motions get 577 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 3: everything to where I would kind of need to be 578 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 3: spring training ready. Because you'll hear from a lot of 579 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 3: guys like, you can prepare for spring training all you 580 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 3: want to, but there's getting in shape and then there's 581 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 3: getting in baseball shape. You can do everything you need 582 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 3: to do. You can go out there, get your routes, 583 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 3: do your hitting, get DP and everything, but once you're 584 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 3: out there and until you're standing around in cleats for 585 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 3: three and a half hours, you can you cannot stimulate 586 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 3: that at all. When you're sitting there working out in 587 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 3: the off season. So I just made sure that I 588 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 3: was ready to get into baseball shape from day one 589 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 3: when I got to spring training. And I was very fortunate. 590 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 3: When I lived back home in Georgia, I would go 591 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 3: work out of my local high school because that was 592 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 3: just where I was. I'd go to their gym. I'd 593 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 3: go out there with their high school coach and he'd 594 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 3: hit me everything I needed to do in the outfield. 595 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 3: He'd throw to me do everything. And this is all 596 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 3: during the school year, So this is all great during 597 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 3: classes and everything's time to just be out there by 598 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 3: myself and be out of the door by the time 599 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 3: my school would let out. And then as I got 600 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 3: older and got to Houston, obviously going to the ballpark 601 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 3: and working out with guys like you know, I'd work 602 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 3: out with Gary. This is when Joe was our bench 603 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 3: coach and he was out there throwing VP. Just having 604 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 3: those guys have an access in Brockamani, I mean you 605 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 3: can Brockamani is probably one of the most hardest working 606 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 3: guys I've seen, whether it be himself getting ready or 607 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 3: helping other guys. My man was there every day when 608 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 3: it was coming out that you know, I might be 609 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 3: playing some first base way back when good the Lord 610 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 3: that was scary. He was there every day hitting me 611 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 3: ground balls, making sure I was ready to get to 612 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 3: where I needed to be. So there's guys there that 613 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 3: are for you know, if you're in the area, there's 614 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 3: guys that are there for you every day to get 615 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 3: you right. That's you know. When I saw the video, 616 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 3: who was there right there without tv Brocamane out there 617 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 3: doing anything he could to help him out. So it's 618 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 3: just a matter of what your mindset is. But I 619 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 3: think the biggest thing is when you're a non roster 620 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 3: guy and you may not be trying to make a 621 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 3: spot and you have no shot of getting on that roster, 622 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,959 Speaker 3: but first impressions make make all the difference and make 623 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 3: everything worth it. 624 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 2: I mean I have not been in as many camps 625 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 2: as you have, Josh, obviously, but you know, just being 626 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 2: around the Big League clubhouse like the seventh time I've gone, 627 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 2: and to me, the best NRIs are the guys you 628 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: don't notice, the ones that are kind of in the club, 629 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 2: like I thought, and he obviously ended up going on 630 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 2: to have success, But I thought Joey Loperfido last year 631 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 2: was the model NRI like was at his locker every day, 632 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 2: sat there, kept to himself, was available, And again he 633 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 2: had a very tough balance to strike because he was 634 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 2: playing so well and the the sheer lack of storylines 635 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: and Astros camp, Like I mean, you go to Astros camp, 636 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 2: you can write out the lineup before you even get there, 637 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 2: so there's not. 638 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: A ton of battles. 639 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 2: So when there's one guy playing well, you kind of 640 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 2: latch on. And we wanted to talk to Joey a 641 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 2: lot reporters did, and you could tell how respectful he 642 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 2: was and looking around to make sure you know, okay, 643 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 2: like every you've talked to everybody else, Okay, now you 644 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 2: can come like he was the model NRI. I never heard, 645 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 2: never heard a peep out of him. He talked when 646 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: he was talked to, He fell in line, and obviously, 647 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 2: like it translated, he got right up to the big leagues, 648 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 2: played well, and now he's in Toronto as part of 649 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 2: the Kokuchi trade. But I wonder, Josh, when you got 650 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 2: to Red Sox big league camp for the first time, did. 651 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: You have the jaw drop moment? Did you have the 652 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: oh crap moment? 653 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 2: Like what what was the one moment that kind of 654 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 2: shook you like, oh man, I'm in big Lee camp now. 655 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 3: Oh man, I think from I mean first starters from 656 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 3: day one you walk into that clubhouse. I mean this 657 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 3: is two thousand and nine. Like I said, you had 658 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 3: you go around the just go around the field. I 659 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 3: mean you had I think it was Eucleus at first, 660 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 3: Pedroi at second. I think Alex Gonzalez was our short 661 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 3: stop at that time. We had Mikey Lowell at third base. 662 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 3: You had Veritec catching, You had gosh, who are who's 663 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 3: our left fielder that year? I can't every who the 664 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 3: left foot was. We had like Elsbury was in center. JD. 665 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 3: Drew was in right. Obviously, Poppy was our dag And 666 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 3: like that didn't stop there. You go to the bullpen. 667 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 3: You had you know, papal Bond, you had, oh Manny 668 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 3: del Carmen was a big veteran at that point. Daniel 669 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 3: Bard was just stepping in to be Daniel Bard of 670 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 3: the relief pitching stands. So and then obviously, you know 671 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,959 Speaker 3: Terry francona a very intimidating figure when you look at 672 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 3: you know his his history and the game of baseball, 673 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 3: and this is you know, sixteen years ago. That doesn't 674 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 3: even account for what my man's done for the last 675 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 3: sixteen years. So just walking in and being kind of intimidated, 676 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 3: you know, because these are guys I grew up watching 677 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 3: play on TV. And these are guys that I watched 678 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 3: and idolized. So to be able to be in the 679 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 3: same clubhouse put on the same uniform for them was 680 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 3: just a big eye opener for Big League camp. For 681 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 3: me to just come in and be with those guys, 682 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 3: And I think that's that's really the bigger eye opening 683 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 3: part to it. And and then you get out there and 684 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 3: you're learning from guys like JD Drew, who you know, 685 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 3: fellow Georgia native like myself, who I grow up watching 686 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 3: when he was at the Braves and all this kind 687 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 3: of stuff. So it's kind of those moments were like, man, 688 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 3: this is full circle because sixteen year old Josh is 689 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 3: giggling like a high school girl inside. But I have 690 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 3: to keep my composure on the outside because this is 691 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 3: my job. These are my teammates, you know. These are 692 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 3: guys that I'm going to go to war with every day. 693 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 3: So it's it's it's tough. It's not easy to be 694 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 3: able to go out there and you know, sit there 695 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 3: and look at your idols and keep a straight face 696 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,239 Speaker 3: because but at the end of the day, it's your 697 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 3: job and that's all they care about. 698 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: You want to know who the left fielder was. 699 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 3: Let's see, we acquired Jason Bay later that year. 700 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 2: That's who Baseball Reference says it was. It says it 701 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 2: was Jason we trade. 702 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 3: We traded for him halfway through the year. That was 703 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 3: the Manny Ramires three teen trade, because we traded Brandon 704 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 3: Moss to the Pirates and Bay came over and then 705 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 3: Manny went. Where did Manny go in that trade? 706 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: Manny went to the Dodgers. 707 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 3: Dodgers. Yes, that's exactly right. So I can't remember who 708 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 3: started off that year in the field course, but it 709 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 3: was not Jason Bay. 710 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 2: The last few years and it's this has spanned three managers. 711 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 2: A j was A j was pretty famous for this. 712 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 2: I believe Dusty did it as well, and I know 713 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 2: Joe did it last year. Every day when when everyone's 714 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 2: so in big league camp before the cuts start going down, 715 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 2: all three of those managers would invite one of the 716 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 2: non roster guys or a rookie to stand up in 717 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 2: front of the big League Club, you know, introduced themselves. 718 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 2: I think AJ made it a little fun with like, 719 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 2: you know, he would do a little research on the 720 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: guys and sound him like, hey, we saw that you 721 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 2: like to do this. And you know, everyone remembers last 722 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 2: year that when Joey lop Berfdo got up, Uh, they 723 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 2: knew he was a chef. They knew he liked to cook, 724 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 2: So he cooked paiea for the whole uh all of 725 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 2: Big League camp because they knew he was a big 726 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 2: an avid chef. Do you have any good from when 727 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 2: you were around AJ and when he did it with 728 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 2: the Astros? Do you have any good stories about any 729 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 2: of those that still stick in your mind? And how 730 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 2: I guess more generally, like how I guess a little 731 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 2: bit more settling is that for a rookie to be 732 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 2: able to kind of do that, and it's got to 733 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 2: be nerve wracking to get up there, But once it's done, 734 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 2: you kind of feel like, all right, like all the 735 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 2: guys know who I am and kind of feel like 736 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 2: they can settle down a little bit. 737 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, it's it's your initiation. I mean, it's you. 738 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 3: It's your fraternity initiation to the boys, and you know. 739 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 3: The one thing I remember, I can't I could tell 740 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 3: you who it was. My first big League my first 741 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 3: year with the Strows, AJ had a guy who was 742 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 3: a goat. I think it was a goat roper or 743 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 3: a cow roper. I can't remember what it was, but hey, 744 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 3: he brought in his little rope and like did the 745 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 3: whole thing and did all that stuff, and then he, 746 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 3: like I think Brackamane, put on a cow outfit and 747 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 3: then I had him crawl through the locker room by 748 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 3: the hind leg. But I'd like, for the love of me, 749 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you who it was or you know, 750 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 3: but I do remember that and one thing, and it 751 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 3: wasn't with the Astros, and I think that Coco Cris 752 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 3: did a really good job with us in Oakland. There 753 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 3: were two years where we did a talent show. So 754 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 3: if you were a first if you were a non 755 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 3: roster guy your first big league camp, you could not 756 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 3: back out of it. Everybody else put in one hundred 757 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 3: dollars to buy their to buy themselves out of it, 758 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 3: and whoever won the car and whoever won the talent 759 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 3: show got the money, which is we know for non 760 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 3: roster guys, you know this is gosh, this is what 761 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 3: three thousand dollars we're talking about three plus thousand dollars 762 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 3: for guys who don't really have a whole lot of them. 763 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 3: They're they're living by the Perdan, they're getting a big 764 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 3: lee camp. So for them to have that, I remember 765 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 3: all kinds of guys. Now, Stephen Vote was the one 766 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 3: that stands out to me because we all know how 767 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 3: funny Stephen Vote is nowadays, the referee bit, you know, 768 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 3: all this crazy stuff. But my man did the full 769 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 3: Saturday Night Live skit of living in a van down. 770 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: Was Matt Foley. 771 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, he nailed it. He as you would 772 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 3: expect voter to mail it anyway. But I mean he 773 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 3: did the whole like the weight adjustment and getting what 774 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 3: do you want to do with your life? And and 775 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 3: and the crazy part was he didn't He didn't even win, 776 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 3: which was which was wild? Is it? Jake? Jake Jake Elmore? 777 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 3: Is that's the third base. Jake Elmore won it because 778 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 3: he did like this rendition of like singing and playing 779 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 3: different instruments. But I thought, my boy, Voter got hosed 780 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 3: by that. But those are just ways to kind of 781 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 3: one They eased your tension as an individual doing it. 782 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 3: They eased the tension as you know, the older guys 783 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 3: getting there as well. But yeah, I think it's just 784 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 3: all about initiation and getting the boys to know that 785 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 3: Saturday that they may not know yet. 786 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: Steven Vote American League Manager of the Year. 787 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 2: He's gone from He's gone from Matt Foley in the 788 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 2: in the Spring Training Talent Show to American League Manager 789 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 2: of the Year. Could you uh, he's this is not John. 790 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,720 Speaker 3: His name is John Referso when he plays the referee. 791 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: As obviously it will end after this. 792 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 2: This is not an Astros question, but inj I mean, 793 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 2: you know, you played with Stephen Vote a bunch. Could 794 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 2: you have Could you tell he was going to be 795 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 2: a manager from from when you were playing with him? 796 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, maybe not, maybe not from day one, but 797 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 3: as we got to know more of Voter, and you know, 798 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 3: catchers make great managers, and that's just because they know 799 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 3: how to assess the whole situation. Everything's right there in 800 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 3: front of him. But you know, when when you when 801 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 3: you talk to Voter, even before what what he got 802 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 3: to be known for, you knew that he was going 803 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 3: to one stay in baseball and be a coach. But 804 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 3: I think once we got to know him a little 805 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 3: bit more, everybody knew he was going to be that 806 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 3: manager because he was just he's that guy. He's that 807 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 3: guy who you can talk to anytime. He was a 808 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 3: guy that I had plenty of conversations with about my 809 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 3: career playing with him, just talking about life, talking about 810 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 3: the grind of life, the grind of baseball, and just 811 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 3: getting everything off our teams kind of like our therapy 812 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 3: stestions for one another. And when you don't have guys 813 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 3: like that, it makes the game a lot tougher. And 814 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 3: the best thing about Voter is he's gonna tell you 815 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 3: straight up. He's gonna be He's not gonna be a sue. 816 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 3: He's gonna take you straight to your face how he feels. 817 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 3: And I think that's where you get the respect as 818 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 3: a manager from, because there's times where you feel like 819 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 3: somebody's not being straight up with you. But the best 820 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 3: quality and trade I think managers can have is one 821 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 3: having their players backs and not not lying to him being, 822 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 3: you know, telling them how it is. We're all grown men. 823 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 3: Tell us how it is. We can handlet and if 824 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 3: we can't, we'll talk it out and I think that's 825 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 3: what makes him such a great guy and such a 826 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 3: great person for that job. 827 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 2: This is a this is an easy way to transition 828 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 2: into telling everyone this is an exciting announcement that we'll 829 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 2: have Joe Aspota on Crush City Territory UH in a 830 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 2: couple of days and you'll be able to download that 831 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 2: and get that UH the day that the Ashers report 832 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 2: to camp, so you'll be able to hear from Joe 833 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 2: Aspota exclusively. He'll be on a Crush City territory here. 834 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 2: Believe we're gonna him in the next couple of days. 835 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 2: That should be fun. We'll talk to him about everything 836 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 2: Josh has talked about, what makes a good manager, what 837 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 2: kind of has how he felt his first year went, 838 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 2: what he's looking forward to in spring training, and maybe 839 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 2: see if he's got any intel already on some of 840 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 2: these nurs and what they're going to do in front 841 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 2: of the club. And we will keep bringing you all 842 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 2: that will be in West Palm Beach starting I will 843 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 2: be in West Palm Beach starting on Tuesday, so we 844 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 2: will keep you guys covered head to toe, everything wall 845 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 2: to wall on Astro's spring training. 846 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: As the seasons it's coming. 847 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 2: It's here at Dusty Baker Aways used to say when 848 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 2: the super Bowl. When the super Bowl is played, he 849 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 2: knows baseball seasons right around the corner, and super Bowl. 850 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: Will be Sunday. 851 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 2: Who I guess before we get out of here, this 852 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 2: will be posted before the Super Bowl. 853 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: Who's let's take picks? Who we got? 854 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 3: Well, I'm not an NFL guy, but I'm going to 855 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 3: base my pick off my parlay. I have it in 856 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 3: play right now and I'm gonna go with the Taylor 857 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 3: Swift Chiefs. Mm hmm. I just hope Taylor is happy. 858 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 3: You know. I have a nice five leg parlay that 859 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 3: I need to hit because I got a Veigast trip 860 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 3: coming in April. 861 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 4: So my neighbors are from Philadelphia, so I have to 862 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 4: root for them just because I said their Their dog's 863 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 4: name is Carson after Carson Wins from from years ago. 864 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 4: So I want them to be happy. 865 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 3: But yeah, the Chiefs are gonna win. 866 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,240 Speaker 4: That's that's what always happens. 867 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,959 Speaker 3: What are what are we talking about? You're not gonna 868 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 3: get You're not gonna give them, You're not not going 869 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 3: to give them the three p Too big of a 870 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 3: it's too big of a deal to not give them 871 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 3: the three peace. 872 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: I'm in the same boat. I would love to see 873 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:40,399 Speaker 1: the Eagles win. 874 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 2: I know I know more people that are Eagles fans, 875 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 2: that have been lifelong suffering Eagles fans, So for them, 876 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 2: I would like the Eagles to win. 877 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: But I just I can't see it. I think my. 878 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 2: Home is too good, Andy Reid is too good. Maybe 879 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 2: the referees are too good. Like I don't know, but 880 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 2: I think I think it's gonna be a three peet 881 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:02,919 Speaker 2: and it'll be something to watch. 882 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 1: I too, hope that Taylor is happy. 883 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 2: I got any email the other day with like fifty 884 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 2: prop bets about how much they will show Taylor on 885 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 2: the broadcast, who shall be sitting next to, whether she'll 886 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 2: perform with Kendrick at halftime. Josh, I can send you 887 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 2: that email if you'd like to add on. 888 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,359 Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm good. I don't I don't need any 889 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,399 Speaker 3: more bets. This is This is a safe and it's 890 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 3: only a little little small bets, but it pays big. 891 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 2: All right, guys, Well, we appreciate again, we appreciate everybody listening. 892 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: Thanks so much. 893 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 2: Rate and review us on Apple, subscribe on YouTube, and 894 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 2: we will be back soon, like we said with Asher's 895 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:39,879 Speaker 2: manager Joe Spotta, coming soon. 896 00:39:39,920 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: Thank you guys, Bye,