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Speaker 3: Drilled by Simmons. Isaiah Simmons is balling, breaking on, break

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvc.

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Speaker 3: You know what's truly sad and borderline pathetic.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, there's so many answers here.

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Speaker 3: Paul as a pause in hopes that you don't own

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Speaker 3: Yours Truly poly Podcasts what's really pathetic over here would

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Speaker 3: be the fact that I now know exactly what i

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Speaker 3: want for Father's Day, yet I've yet to have a

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Speaker 3: clue what to get the wife for Mother's Day. And

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Speaker 3: we only have a matter of days and counting right now.

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Speaker 2: So this is an excellent This is an excellent way

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Speaker 2: to get into this. Okay, so you're talking about your wife, Yes,

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Speaker 2: she is, as far as I know, not your mother.

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Speaker 3: An I'm trying to be quibbles here on Cardinals Underground.

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Speaker 2: Why I understand, I understand taking your wife out to dinner,

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Speaker 2: but you have two able by body children who are

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Speaker 2: well old enough to go shop. This is a horrible

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Speaker 2: Why would you need to get her a gift?

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Speaker 3: It's a great point, like a copy of the open

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Speaker 3: of this Cardinal's Underground, and I'm going to present it

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Speaker 3: to my sixteen and thirteen year old, who have a

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Speaker 3: lengthy track record of online purchases. Why in the sam

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Speaker 3: name of Mother's Day can't they purchase on their own

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Speaker 3: behalf for the wrong mother.

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Speaker 4: My family does not do it that way. My mom

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Speaker 4: gets my dad to get for Father's Day, vice versa.

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Speaker 2: And then you don't have to get it.

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Speaker 5: No, No, my sisters and I get them each something.

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Speaker 4: Now, I will say sometimes I think now too, that

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Speaker 4: my sisters and I are adults and we're not like

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Speaker 4: in high school in college A lot of times like

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Speaker 4: we'll think of a gift and our mom will go

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Speaker 4: in with us for Father's Day or vice versa. But

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Speaker 4: like they are a part of the planning. There is

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Speaker 4: some thought there that's fair.

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Speaker 2: And I will be honest that although it turned out

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Speaker 2: to be so. My wife's birthday is in like three weeks,

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Speaker 2: so thankfully my older son is thinking about both holidays,

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Speaker 2: and he came out with something that was a little

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Speaker 2: to go in on that. But I don't like I

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Speaker 2: I again, I want to take I want to I'll

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Speaker 2: take my my wife out for a meal. That makes sense.

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Speaker 2: But like for me, like I have three siblings, God

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Speaker 2: bless them, but I'm the one who's gonna do something

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Speaker 2: with my mom who is still with us. So that's

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Speaker 2: my Mother's day. Is my mom? Like I don't, I

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Speaker 2: don't know why.

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Speaker 5: I guess, I guess I see that point. It's just

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Speaker 5: I think once you get a don I.

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Speaker 4: Think it's very thought. I know, but it's so thoughtful

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Speaker 2: You're probably not wrong and I'm probably a horrible human

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Speaker 2: money to go get his mom a president on Mother's Day.

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Speaker 3: So we'll present a copy of that to your son

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Speaker 3: as well. So we're gonna need two copies. Craig Raylo,

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Speaker 3: who's sitting in for Jim Mamahundro today. Isn't anybody gonna

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Speaker 3: follow up and ask, well, Paul, what exactly do you

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Speaker 3: want for father? Thanks for asking, Danny, because I just

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Speaker 3: down already. I need a pair of night vision goggles

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Speaker 5: I don't think I've ever seen Hovelina since moving out here.

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Speaker 2: Well, well, you don't live in the upscale neighborhood has

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Speaker 3: Scales, just has to do it anywhere you're near any.

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Speaker 5: Sort of What do they do? They eat up like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, basically anything. They've even gone after barrel cactus. They

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Speaker 3: do to your front yard. That's all I'm saying. And

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Speaker 3: I guess that's my segue into the Cardinals and football

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Speaker 3: and the rookie showing it. You know, the rookies can

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Speaker 3: then they learn the hard way that sometimes you got

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Speaker 3: to show them who the master is. And and you know,

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Speaker 3: but nobody likes a bully. All right, I'm talking to you.

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Speaker 3: NFL moment. Are you following me here, Danny? Your litt

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Speaker 3: quizzical over there.

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Speaker 5: No, I'm just impressed with the way you're able to segue.

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Speaker 2: So professional.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So what do we know about the rookies showing up,

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Speaker 3: and there's obviously it's glorified soccer to use the old

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Speaker 3: Darren Okay, anyone I guess I should say that catches

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Speaker 2: You know, it's it's a little bit interesting, Paul, because

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Speaker 2: I think this this regime, I guess, for lack of

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Speaker 2: little bit different. I mean, you've been around a lot

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Speaker 2: of rookie minute camps, Danny, you have too. A lot

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Speaker 2: that might be quote unquote veterans, like it's not their

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Speaker 2: the right now ten undrafted rookies that are supposed to sign,

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Speaker 2: not official official, and then the nine draft picks, and

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Speaker 2: that's it. So I'm not expect when you talk about

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Speaker 2: but this is not going to look like the rookie

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Speaker 2: mini camps of old. I don't necessarily, and we saw

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Speaker 2: this in the voluntary Veterans Mini camp. I don't expect

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Speaker 2: to look a lot different.

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Speaker 3: Because we've seen rookie mini camps. So there's forty or

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be interesting.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, the big names of rookies you're going to want

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Speaker 5: His legs a little bit more.

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Speaker 4: And that's not to say he can come in and

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Speaker 4: it'll be interesting to see how Clayton Tune or if

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Speaker 4: they bring in any other undrafted free agent, you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, again, I don't know how much we're going to

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Speaker 2: And you know, I did some reading on him this week,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you got you had Bryce Young, you had Levis,

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Speaker 3: The State kid who's already getting some rave reviews.

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Speaker 2: So what's funny is is the what I had read

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Speaker 2: was somebody had Tune is like the sixth best quarterback. Now,

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Speaker 2: that's true, that's not a bad pick for a fifth

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Speaker 2: we're not going to get to see a lot. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is gonna be all about training camp for these

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Speaker 2: am fascinated to see maybe the cornerback Clark out of Louisville,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how much was really going to be done.

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Speaker 3: Anyways, there was a quote from a Robert Sala, right,

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Speaker 3: and they were talking to coach, Jets coach and they

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Speaker 3: were talking to him about their seventh round pick this year.

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Speaker 3: Some six foot eight tight end had ridiculous measurables. Used

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Speaker 3: to be a high hurdler, one of state high school championship.

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Speaker 3: Of course, at six foot eight you need to raise

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Speaker 3: the stinking hurdles. That's an unfair competitive advantage. That's another discussion.

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Speaker 3: But he had like a forty inch vertical and Robert

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Speaker 3: Sala's quote to the media was there's an old saying

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Speaker 3: in the draft that when you get down to round

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Speaker 3: six and seven, take the freak who loves ball. And

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Speaker 3: you know what that made me think of Owen Papo,

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Speaker 3: the guy whose Twitter handle is at the Freak. And

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Speaker 3: so if we're looking.

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Speaker 2: At people, technically that was the fifth round, fifth.

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Speaker 4: I think he's gonna end up playing more of a

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Speaker 2: It's interesting because in some ways he might fit inside

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Speaker 2: think Dennis Gardek is going to be on this team? Yes,

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're looking to get anybody else, but

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Speaker 2: And that's nothing against Beach. I think beach is a

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Speaker 3: Well, and look, Beach is at that age where every

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Speaker 3: But if you're telling me Paris Johnson Junior on day

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Speaker 3: considering how many areas of need the Cardinals have, how

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Speaker 3: two hundred grand guaranteed. In fact, speaking of Ai, which

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Speaker 3: is our new nickname for Craig Grielou, he said, thirteen

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Speaker 3: players on this roster who are either re signed or

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Speaker 3: the roster flexibility from a cap standpoint, from Ammani asin

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Speaker 3: it could look radically different because there aren't necessarily the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's almost kind of exciting, as that

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Speaker 5: Of maybe this is a situation.

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Speaker 4: Where you have DJ Humphries as your left tackle, Kelvin

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Speaker 4: Beacham as you're right, and it is more Josh Jones

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Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of things there, especially when

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Speaker 4: And you're right, pretty much every position on this roster

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Speaker 4: there's an opportunity to come in and really make an

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Speaker 4: am also intrigued to see. I'm gonna have to go

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Speaker 3: Paul, I think.

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Speaker 4: I think no, no, because when it came to five,

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so I tied my future fortunes is

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Speaker 3: so many names you're going to reverse engineer and the

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Speaker 2: Still looking for your breakout player camp that's still to come.

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Speaker 3: Be one, right, It's like I can't ruin the anticipation.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, the the bird Gang they look

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Speaker 2: But let's not be talking about training camp. Yeah, we

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Speaker 3: We've been slumping in the last couple of years. We

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Speaker 2: We've beit a drought.

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Speaker 3: We've it a drought. There was also the receiver out

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Speaker 2: Oh oh brown, Yes, oh my god, oh man, I

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Speaker 3: And then there was the receiver out of Vanderbilt and

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Speaker 5: You don't have a good track record.

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Speaker 3: That could have been the year where we had two

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Speaker 2: He's doing that scout thing when you say, hey, what

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Speaker 3: Like Dodger actually my new favorite player. And it's duing

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Speaker 3: part to you, Darren Irman. It was your future story

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Speaker 3: on yelleda fro Hole.

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Speaker 5: Oh yes, that was a good story.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: JG calls him fro which is solid. Do you know

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Speaker 2: Because I didn't see that, but that is excellent that

435
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 2: that is right there.

436
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 3: You gotta love Yelled a fro Hole because he didn't

437
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 3: pick up football until he was twelve in his native Denmark.

438
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,159
Speaker 3: Yes and so, and he came over as an exchange student.

439
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 3: And I'm guessing it win something along lines. So he

440
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 3: came over from Denmark, They're like, wow, you're you're really large.

441
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 3: Would you like to play football? And then somehow he

442
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 3: got introduced to I'd have.

443
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 2: To ask, like, if he was already playing in Denmark,

444
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,919
Speaker 2: it's possible that he liked it enough that he was

445
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,400
Speaker 2: more intrigued by because he was. That was the other

446
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 2: thing is not only did he was he an exchange student,

447
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,119
Speaker 2: but he went to a high school in Ohio. And

448
00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 2: you're not gonna I mean, I don't know where he

449
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 2: went to high school it might have been wherever. But

450
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 2: the first thing I think it was like man right

451
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 2: in like Midwest football heavy, I'm gonna go there and

452
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 2: get some football.

453
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 3: And yeah, and then his whole he did a social

454
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 3: media video in his weight room.

455
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 2: Oh yes, the ladies, the ladies.

456
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 3: What does that come from?

457
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 2: That?

458
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 3: That's a it's a movie.

459
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 2: See, it's an animated I didn't know this until I

460
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 2: look I talk about reverse engineering. I had to look

461
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 2: all this stuff up. But yeah, it's a it's a

462
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 2: meme on social media. A bunch of lines from the

463
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 2: animated movie Surfs Up where a guy starts talking about

464
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 2: all these awards he had won and he and he

465
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,159
Speaker 2: gives them names and calls him his ladies. And so

466
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 2: people do video with it with that dubbing out in

467
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 2: that in those words and and and Yelda was doing

468
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 2: all his equipment in his in his home weight.

469
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Speaker 3: Room, including his Atlas stones. Yes, Danny, do you know

470
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 3: what Atlas stones are? Did you ever used to watch

471
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Speaker 3: the Strongman competition like on ESPN the ohow back in

472
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Speaker 3: the day.

473
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Speaker 2: Not.

474
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Speaker 5: I wouldn't go way to watch that.

475
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 2: I don't think she's old enough to have seen when

476
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 2: they still were showing that stuff.

477
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 3: Okay, here's the test, Danny, do you know the name

478
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 3: Magnus or Magnuson.

479
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,719
Speaker 2: No. By the way, quick side note, I went up

480
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 2: and looked. I don't know if you noticed, Like at

481
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 2: the bottom, I kind of slipped in a couple of names.

482
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 2: I'm hoping people understood that those were famous Danish strongmen.

483
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 2: I wanted Magnus, then Magnuson.

484
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 3: Or whatever, Magnus ver Magnus.

485
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 2: I wanted him so badly to be Danish, but I

486
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 2: think he's Swedish or went.

487
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 3: It down Iceland or Iceland because like, for whatever, I

488
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 3: couldn't use it. I mean Iceland, what Iceland is, the

489
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 3: powerlifting is, you know, is what Arizona is to have Alena.

490
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just like it's crazy, like the inordinate

491
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 3: amount of strongmen that come out of Iceland, when like

492
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 3: the whole population of Iceland is like Yuma, and so

493
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 3: I don't really get it. But I do like the

494
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 3: fact he has Atlas Stone's in his gym, because that's

495
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 3: right out of the strongman competition. By the way, I

496
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 3: was also somewhat hardened a little bit a little bit

497
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 3: to see that Cleveland had serious O line injury.

498
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: Issue.

499
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that he was essentially their fifth string center

500
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 3: because he's a guard by trade. Yes, And they had

501
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 3: gone through their first four centers before they got around

502
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 3: to yell Dea Frohold last year. Now now he might

503
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 3: be the starting center as we speak.

504
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he said, look, I'm one of the things

505
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 2: I really like about this guy is the fact that

506
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 2: he's not He's not entertaining these crazy thoughts like I'm

507
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 2: the best offensive lineman ever and I'm just not. Haven't

508
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 2: been any of my chance. He's talked about, Hey, my

509
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 2: role is of being a backup, and I'm gonna in

510
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: teer backup and I want to be great and I

511
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 2: want to be the sixth man type thing. And I

512
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 2: just love that attitude. And he had not even though

513
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 2: he was training at center last year and they told

514
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 2: him he was going to train at center, he had

515
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 2: never actually played it in a game. And so when

516
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 2: he had to go play there had I think a

517
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 2: rookie going ir and preseason, and then they had three

518
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 2: other guys that they were gonna put out there before him,

519
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 2: and they all went down and so he ended up starting,

520
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 2: like you said, four games. So again, I know this

521
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 2: is I put that story out, and you know, I

522
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 2: just thought it was a I thought it was interesting

523
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 2: to tie. It was interesting story, and it was interesting

524
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 2: to tie into a position that they struggled with, like

525
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: as we've talked about filling and the conversation that it

526
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 2: generated mostly upset fans of like this is who we

527
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 2: have at center? How could they have not drafted somebody

528
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 2: you get the tangential? Why why would they trade back

529
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: up to six? You could have gotten a good offensive

530
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 2: lineman at twelve and use that second that that other

531
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 2: second round pick that you traded away to get Whippler.

532
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 3: Was on the board for like five straight rounds.

533
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 5: What is for a Holtz comfortable position guard?

534
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 2: I think he feels most comfortable guard. But he's a

535
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 2: guy who if you tell him he needs to play center,

536
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: he's going to work his butt off at center and

537
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 2: do everything he can to play center. And I know

538
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: there are guys like that that doesn't necessarily make them. Okay,

539
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 2: Billy Price worked his butt off playing center last year

540
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: didn't work out great, And I do I think they're

541
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: going to sign a center. I do, I do at

542
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 2: some point, And there's still a couple guys out there,

543
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 2: like a Ben Jones, who was in Tennessee with Manty

544
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 2: Austin Fort last year. Now the question is is a

545
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 2: how healthy is Ben Jones because that's one of the

546
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 2: reasons he's not in Tennessee anymore. Could physical and if

547
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 2: he can do all that, does he have other options?

548
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 2: Because if he does, is this the team he wants

549
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 2: to go to? Right now?

550
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 3: Are?

551
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 2: Those are all big questions?

552
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 3: All right, Danny, I'll put you on the record, we'll

553
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 3: track your response to this question. Will the Cardinals or

554
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 3: will they not sign a veteran center by the time

555
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 3: they get to Cardinals camp?

556
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,239
Speaker 5: Yes, I think you have to.

557
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 4: You have to see who else is out there, and

558
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 4: you have to see what's working. And I also think

559
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 4: by that point, with these moving pieces we've talked about,

560
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 4: with the other parts of this offensive line, you will

561
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 4: hopefully have a better idea of what the other four

562
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 4: starting positions are going to look like. And that's going

563
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 4: to come into play as well as how is his

564
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 4: center fitting in with everyone else on.

565
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 5: The offensive line.

566
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 4: Right now, we're assuming that Will Hernandez is going to

567
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 4: be your right guard. He has experience at left guard.

568
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 4: Is he going to move and you're going to put

569
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 4: a Josh Jones at a right guard or are you

570
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 4: gonna put Paris Johnson at right guard? Are you going

571
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 4: to look elsewhere along this depth chart Lasita Smith? Where

572
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 4: is he going to be? What is he looking like

573
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 4: at this point going into his second year. I think

574
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 4: there are a lot of questions for every piece on

575
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 4: the offensive line right now. And as you start to

576
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 4: figure out those answers later on in the summer and

577
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 4: start solidifying those other starting positions, then I think you

578
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 4: can also have a better idea of what is working,

579
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 4: what is not working at center, who might be a

580
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 4: good fit, or maybe it's vice versa. Maybe there is

581
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 4: a veteran center and they're going to sign him and

582
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 4: kind of work inside out and kind of see what

583
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 4: works best that way. But I do foresee the Cardinals

584
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 4: bringing in a veteran center.

585
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 2: Okay, we always before drafts, we always we always see

586
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: all the mock drafts. We don't do necessarily a mock draft,

587
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 2: but we know what they're about. And one of the

588
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: things about a mock draft is when when people are

589
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: like trying to figure out if they did it right,

590
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: is Okay, did I get the player at the position

591
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 2: right or and did I get the team right. There

592
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 2: seems to be like half grades. Like, okay, uh, I

593
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 2: thought Paris Johnson was going to go to the Cardinals.

594
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 2: I had him going there at three. He went there

595
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 2: at six. It still kind of counts.

596
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 3: Sure.

597
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 2: So if we sit here right now, and I know

598
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: there's lots of time to do this, but I thought

599
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: this was this would be an interesting exercise our mock

600
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 2: starting lineups. Okay, I'm not saying you can. I don't

601
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: want somebody saying, okay, Will Hernandez is going to be

602
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: on the offensive line. I want to mock like if

603
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: you had to say, I'm going to bet one of

604
00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: my paychecks on these things. How many positions are you

605
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 2: absolutely comfortable saying this person is going to be the

606
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: starter at this position on opening day?

607
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 5: Be willing about your paycheck. But I think we should

608
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 5: do this. I think we should for sure do this.

609
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 3: Attention NFL gambling police. This is just a discussion. Nobody's

610
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 3: opening up an app on the job.

611
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: Shoot, Darren, this is only an exhibition. This is not

612
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: a competition.

613
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 5: So you want to do that, like, talk here right now.

614
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 3: So you want the offensive line left right, I want

615
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 3: the whole offense.

616
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna pull up on my phone.

617
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 4: I want to look at the whole.

618
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 2: Depth chart right now, you can look at the roster.

619
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 3: I'll give you the offensive line left to right.

620
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 2: Here we go, and you're betting your paycheck on these

621
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: because if and here's why, Here's where I'm going with this.

622
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I want you to tell me, not

623
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 2: necessarily the whole offensive line or the whole offense. I

624
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: want you to tell me the guys you are willing

625
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: to bet a paycheck again metaphorically, that they will be

626
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 2: there opening day, like.

627
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 5: As a starter. Is that we're talking about?

628
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 2: Like if you you'd like the reason, it doesn't have

629
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 2: to be five names, I guess that's what I'm saying.

630
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: Like if you you're saying you would think Will Hernandez

631
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: is your right guard, but you don't, he might be

632
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 2: left guard. Like how positive are you? Which guys are

633
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: you saying? I am positive? Like I think I'm feeling

634
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: like I could bet a paycheck that DJ Humphrees is

635
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 2: your left tackle. I think beyond that, I don't know

636
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: if there's anything on the offensive line I'd be willing

637
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 2: to bet a paycheck on, like a guy at a place.

638
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: Do I think Will Hernandez is starting? Yes? Do I

639
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 2: know for sure if it's left or right? I do

640
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 2: not see what I'm saying.

641
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 4: I think talking through it, I would say, thinking of

642
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 4: the guards.

643
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: Being no, no, no, no.

644
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 4: I mean I'm gonna talk through it if the guards

645
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 4: are Will Hernandez and Josh Jones, and Will Hernandez has

646
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 4: been playing on the right side, and Josh Jones, when

647
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 4: speaking more about left tackle, has said he is more

648
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 4: comfortable on the left side. I think if you're going

649
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 4: to give him a chance, that would make sense to

650
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 4: go DJ Humphreys left tackle, Josh Jones your left guard.

651
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 4: I don't know about Lucida Smith being ready to be

652
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 4: a starting center would probably be yelled to for a

653
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 4: Holt Hernandez right tackle. This like almost pains me to

654
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 4: say these words out loud. Would probably be Paris Johnson.

655
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 2: Oh okay, but again, are you willing to put your

656
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 2: paycheck on that?

657
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 5: I don't want to put my paycheck on this, Arran.

658
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 5: I don't want to put my paycheck on any of that.

659
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: You're you're you're missing, You're missing the point of the exercise,

660
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: I understand.

661
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 5: I just don't want to say the words.

662
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 4: I'm willing to bet my paycheck because our boss listens

663
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 4: to this and I don't want him to hear that.

664
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 3: So ill.

665
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 5: Okay, Like I'm willing to probably DJ Humphries.

666
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: DJ Humphries at left tackle. I'm willing to say, Buddha

667
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: Baker and Jalen Thompson your safeties and.

668
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 3: Uh ty Zer White it inside like inside about it,

669
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 3: James Connor, Marco Wilson, one of your two starting corners, Marco.

670
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: Wilson, I would probably yes, I would say James Connor.

671
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: I'm feeling pretty confident at James Connor. Right, I'm willing

672
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: to say Hollywood Brown is one of the wide receivers.

673
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: I may have finished with that list, Like is there

674
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: somebody where else we're missing that you would.

675
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 5: Assuming everyone is healthy?

676
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 2: Like right? Right?

677
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 5: Is that the point?

678
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: Like the point is? The point is opening day? Like

679
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: you're you're you're saying Rashad Lawrence, but I don't know

680
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: what these coaches think of Rashard Lawrence. And no disrespect

681
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: to Rashard Lawrence. But it's not like he's j J. Watt.

682
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: He's not done anything in this league where I'm thinking

683
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: to myself a coach comes in. Oh, you're like Buddha Baker,

684
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: Budda Baker and Rashad Lawrence. If they're healthy, they're starting.

685
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: I don't see that.

686
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 5: Where they fit him. I would think that Zaven Collins.

687
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, position, but you don't know where.

688
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 5: No Darren. But well again, I understand, I'm just trusted.

689
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: It's mad at me. I'm frustrating.

690
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 4: I just don't want to say the words I'm willing

691
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 4: to about my paycheck. But I do get what the

692
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:06,479
Speaker 4: exercise is.

693
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 3: I look at the rest of the tight end room,

694
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 3: not knowing zach Ertz's availability, and I would say, yeah,

695
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 3: Trey McBride, yep, he's gonna be your starter. Who else

696
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 3: could it possibly be?

697
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 2: Because is there an outside chance zach Ertz is healthy

698
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 2: to start the year, and maybe it's your starter.

699
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 3: Maybe.

700
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: See, That's what I'm saying, Like I there, I'm not

701
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: saying Trey McBride isn't gonna have a big role, but

702
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, it is incredible the unknowns we

703
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: have right now.

704
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 3: You could boil it down accounting on one hand how

705
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 3: many certainties there are in this lineup, the starting twenty

706
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 3: two honestly, So yeah, no, I get your point. I

707
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 3: get your point. And you know what, It's gonna make

708
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 3: training camp really interesting because there will be certified competition.

709
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're a rookie right now, you have

710
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 3: a real chance not just to make the team, but

711
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 3: to get real playing time. If you're a rookler right now.

712
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: Well I do see. That's why the Paris thing is

713
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 2: so fascinating to me, because you do have enough players

714
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,959
Speaker 2: because he doesn't play center, you do have enough players

715
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 2: to not play him. But would you look.

716
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 3: My gut feeling is he comes in he competes with

717
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 3: Josh Jones at left guard. I think it's DJ Humphrey's

718
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 3: left tackle. It's Josh Jones or Paris Johnson Junior at

719
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 3: left guard. It's a center to be named later. It's

720
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 3: Will Hernandez a right guard. And I think you start

721
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 3: the season with Kelvin Beacham at right tackle.

722
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 2: I like that too, And so you seem upset about that.

723
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 2: It pau too, Danny.

724
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 3: Kelvin Beacham is as well bought, as they say in

725
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 3: the car auction world, right. He came at a pretty

726
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 3: cheap price. He gives you a lot of that needed leadership.

727
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 3: I think we all agree with that. You lost some

728
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 3: of that in the JJ Watt and some other veterans.

729
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 3: So he's part of the answer when it comes to

730
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 3: that equation and the culture.

731
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,479
Speaker 4: Look, I could be wrong in this, but also looking

732
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 4: ahead to the future of where this coaching staff envisions

733
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 4: Paris Johnson Junior playing in the future. Is he your

734
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 4: next left tackle? And if he is, does it make

735
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 4: more sense from a development development stamp point as well

736
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 4: as a versatility standpoint to have him play this year

737
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 4: as your right tackle? But does it make more sense

738
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 4: to have him play as your left guard and already

739
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 4: be getting more used to that left side. Maybe that's

740
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 4: coming into play as well. With a thought assuming that

741
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 4: Paris Johnson can come in and fit pretty much anywhere

742
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 4: along the offensive line and you're gonna.

743
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 5: Have your pick.

744
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 4: I think maybe that that might be something they're considering,

745
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 4: is we didn't disdrab him for this year, but also

746
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 4: for the future and where do we see him playing

747
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 4: long term in the future.

748
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 2: That's an excellent point. Quick aside. If you had to

749
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 2: have a first name named after a major city, what

750
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 2: would that.

751
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 5: City, Well, Austin is a popular one.

752
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: You'd want to be named Austin.

753
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 5: I'm just thinking.

754
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 2: I'm asking you.

755
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 3: I got an answer.

756
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 5: What is I know Austin. So I wouldn't want to

757
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 5: be another Austin Reno.

758
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 3: That's a cool name, Reno Calvc. I like Reno. Hey, Reno,

759
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 3: I like that.

760
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: I like it.

761
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 3: I like Reno Calvic. I might I might use it

762
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 3: on the road. I might use that. I might use

763
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 3: it your hotel. Yeah, you know that's under serious consideration

764
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 3: for ye. That's a good question. By the way, there's

765
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 3: an old there's an old say like he's thought about

766
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 3: this before. There's an old saying in the armed forces.

767
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 3: I don't know. Some old army veteran told me when

768
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 3: he walked in on the first day of boot camp,

769
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 3: and it was part of a college program whatever. They

770
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 3: walk in and they look you straight in the eye,

771
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 3: they go, young man, words are numbers. And then they decide,

772
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: are you going to be more of an engineer or

773
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 3: you with the with the math, or you gonna be

774
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 3: more in communications with the words.

775
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 2: Okay, good point. So I've heard that before.

776
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 3: I bring this up because number Paris Johnson Junior is

777
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 3: wearing number seventy. I was not aware seventy seven is

778
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 3: retired by the Cardinals, Darren Urban, and I defer to

779
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 3: you on this one because you also did the research

780
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 3: on this one. Seventy seven is not available.

781
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: No, it is not available because of the tragic on field.

782
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 2: Well it wasn't on field, but it was an injury

783
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 2: suffered on the field by state and modeling an offensive

784
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: lineman in the forties. He wore number seventy seven and

785
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 2: tragically passed away after a game, I believe in nineteen

786
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: forty eight, and unfortunately there's it was called a heart attack.

787
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 2: He collapsed in the locker room. It was called a

788
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 2: heart attack. Although I looked up a newspaper clipping from

789
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 2: the time and at the time they said the Cardinals

790
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 2: were saying it was a heart attack. But he had

791
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: also suffered bleeding on the brain. And there are people

792
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 2: that think that he got kicked or something on the

793
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 2: field and they just didn't realize it until it was

794
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 2: too late. But he was the one wearing seventy seven.

795
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: There's only what eight numbers, seven numbers that the Cardinals

796
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 2: have retired all time. Seventy seven is one of them.

797
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: Paris Johnson wore seventy seven in college and I you know,

798
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 2: somebody had made the point to me that he had

799
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: actually gone on a podcast before the draft and said

800
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 2: he really wanted to continue to wear seventy seven, and

801
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 2: supposedly on this podcast said one of the reasons he

802
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: picked out how State was because he could get seventy seven.

803
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true. No, but and then said,

804
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 2: you know, JJ Watt was able to get ninety nine,

805
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 2: which had been retired with the Cardinals. But he first,

806
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 2: there's a couple of things with the JJ Watt thing. One,

807
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 2: JJ Watt asked a family member to see if wearing

808
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 2: ninety nine would be okay. And also, JJ Watt was

809
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: ninety nine. That was his yea, that was his NFL persona.

810
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 3: You know, three time NFL Defensive Player of.

811
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 2: The Year Paris Johnson junior doesn't quite have that persona

812
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 2: right now, So I think it makes sense to change.

813
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 2: But I thought it was a good opportunity to bring

814
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: up Stan Mardlin's name, a guy that does obviously doesn't

815
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 2: get brought up very often in terms of retired numbers

816
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 2: with his team. And like you said, there's not a

817
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: lot of people that realized seventy seven had been retired.

818
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: And I just want to briefly talk about him.

819
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 3: By the way, it is interesting to see on the

820
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 3: Cardinals roster number zero, Zach Pascal. That's that is interesting, right,

821
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 3: just just in terms of I'm not the biggest uniform

822
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 3: or number guy, but there's no doubt about that, all right.

823
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 3: And then the number here, Danny, here's another segue.

824
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 4: For you to I would have chosen words for the

825
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 4: record as you throw a number at me, but okay, yeah,

826
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 4: me too.

827
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 3: To seventy two. Do you know what that refers to?

828
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 3: It's the it's good guess. It's the number of games

829
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 3: this NFL season. The schedule is coming. The schedule is coming.

830
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 3: The Paul Revere version of the headline that yes, the

831
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 3: NFL schedule is going to be released on Thursday night.

832
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 3: Two hundred and seventy two total games, including fourteen playoff rematches,

833
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 3: the most ever according to ESPN. So my question to you,

834
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 3: Danny Surrek, what are your most anticipated match Which matchups.

835
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 5: For the Cardinals or the Cardinals?

836
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 3: Which ones are you anticipating the most?

837
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 4: Thinking about the opponents? You have the rest of the

838
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 4: NFC West, So that's San Francisco, Seattle, LA.

839
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:12,919
Speaker 5: This year.

840
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 4: The Cardinals also have the NFC East, which would be

841
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 4: the Cowboys, the Giants, the Eagles, and the Commanders, and

842
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 4: then we also have the Steelers, the Browns.

843
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 5: The Texans. Did I get them all?

844
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:27,919
Speaker 3: Yep?

845
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 4: Bears, So Bears, and Bengals. Oh I keep forgetting about

846
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 4: the Bengals. Oh okay, I'm gonna be honest. If if

847
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 4: the Bengals game is late in the season and we're

848
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 4: assuming that Kyler Murray will be back in time, I

849
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 4: think that could be a really exciting matchup just watching

850
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 4: him and Joe Burrows sling the ball selfishly, selfishly, I've

851
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 4: got it, God, Craig. Craig is going to Oh, I

852
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 4: know what she's gonna say, selfishly, Right, the Cowboys matchup

853
00:40:58,520 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 4: is going to be exciting for me. That was a

854
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 4: lot of fun going to Dallas and my bright red

855
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 4: Blazer my first season with the Cardinals when we won,

856
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 4: when we beat Dallas. So that'll be a lot of

857
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 4: fun for me personally that week, just kind of trash

858
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 4: talking my friends and family and everyone who wants to

859
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 4: come up and visit, but which I think could also

860
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 4: be a good game out of the field, I think,

861
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 4: you know, especially with Dallas's defense and things like that.

862
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 4: But I would say I think the Bengals would be.

863
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 5: A lot of fun to watch.

864
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 3: Honestly, if you gave me one player on this entire

865
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 3: schedule that I would want to see every Cardinals opponent.

866
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 3: I mean, Lamar Jackson obviously be up there, but I

867
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 3: would say Joe Burrow would edge out Lamar Jackson to

868
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 3: this point, I'll be fascinated.

869
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 2: I remember thinking to myself, and don't get me wrong,

870
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: Lamar played well. But I remember going to Baltimore and

871
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: Kyler's rookie year the second game of the season, and

872
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 2: I remember thinking to myself, Lamar. I thought Lamar was

873
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: going to do a lot more that day, and he didn't.

874
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: It was a close game. Cardinals had the ball late

875
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 2: deep in their own territory with a chance to maybe

876
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 2: do something. It didn't work out that way.

877
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 3: But that was the game where they had three possessions

878
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 3: inside the five and they ended up with three field goals.

879
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was early in Cliffs.

880
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 3: Yes, it was. That's where the red zone. Well it

881
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 3: evolved from there. Put it that way, We've.

882
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 2: Got some fascinating quarterbacks on this schedule.

883
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 3: I mean, think about it. You're going against so you

884
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 3: have Lamar Jackson, you have Joe Burrow, you have Dak Prescott,

885
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones just got highly paid.

886
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:30,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then.

887
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 3: You're gonna see Justin Fields with Chicago's sticking with as

888
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 3: the future, Deshaun Watson. You're going to Cleveland, You're gonna

889
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 3: see C. J. Stroud. At Houston, you're gonna see Jalen

890
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 3: Hurts obviously the new NFL's highest paid player. When you

891
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 3: go to Philly, head on a swivel. If you're Jonathan

892
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 3: Gannon for that one. You have Kenny Pickett year two.

893
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 3: We'll see what he's like, if he's the future or not.

894
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: Who is Washington? Sam Howe?

895
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: Wait, Sam how Howell, Sam Howell, Well, they couldn't get

896
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 2: Andrew Luck apparently.

897
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 3: That's right with the Tampa rate, So and then Desmond

898
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 3: Ritter would be Atlanta.

899
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 5: And who's the San Francisco quarterback we're facing?

900
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, good question. Is it going to be Brandon Allen

901
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 3: they just signed, or you know, is brock Party going

902
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 3: to be available by then you're.

903
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: Just forgetting Sam Donald, Trey Lance, You're.

904
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 3: Right, I did forget Sam Donald. You're absolutely right.

905
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: I did. There's no question by the way, I saw

906
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 2: something that had ranked every teams. I saw wide receiver

907
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: first and then the quarterback room, and they were ranking

908
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 2: every team's depth at those positions. And for quarterback they

909
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 2: had Kyler number one for the Cardinals, so they were

910
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: middle of the pack. But the three names, the only

911
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 2: three names they had were Kyler, Colt and Jeff driscoll.

912
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: And I thought, where's the love for David Brown.

913
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 3: And the best QB in the class, Clayton Tune, you know,

914
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 3: so asked for the most his words. Yeah, but think

915
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 3: about that, okay, So I would agree the most anticipated

916
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 3: matchup Joe Burrow in the Bengals. I put number one

917
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 3: the Eagles against Jonathan Gannon. There's gonna be a lot

918
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 3: there that week. There's no question about that. Kyler against

919
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 3: Lamar if that's the way. In fact, here's my little

920
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 3: shout out to the NFL. Put some of the marquee

921
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 3: matchups in the second half of the season, when the

922
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 3: Cardinals play Atlanta or Houston or Washington. Put those in

923
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 3: the front half of the season, minus Kyler, the games

924
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 3: against Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson and Dak Prescott, even

925
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 3: even Matthew Stafford, you know, and or Gino Smith. You know,

926
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 3: try and backload those for the Cardinals. That would be

927
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 3: my wish. And this Cardinals you know schedule when it

928
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 3: comes out on Thursday.

929
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 4: What about your wish as sideline reporter for all the

930
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 4: away games that don't have a roof.

931
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a potential here for a really nasty season, Danny,

932
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 3: thanks for asking. You know you got to go.

933
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: What are we looking at our home games of possible snow?

934
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 3: I mean, you know you're going to Chicago. Please let

935
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 3: that be in September. You're going to Cleveland, please don't

936
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 3: let that be in December January. You're going to Philly.

937
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 2: Last time, Washington.

938
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 3: I mean, there's potential if you.

939
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: Look real carefully right now, Danny, like sympathetic ice crystals

940
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: are forming on Paul's eyelids, eyelashes right now.

941
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 3: Actually, I just changed my Father's Day gift requests from

942
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 3: the night vision goggles and the tranqu Wiser gun for

943
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 3: the Havevelina. I've changed them to new boots.

944
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: Money.

945
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 5: Just get your wife new boots from Mother's Day.

946
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 2: As long as that came up again, Oh gosh, where

947
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 2: does Father's Day rink? I'm curious. I saw this now?

948
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 2: Do I believe it? There was a There was a

949
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 2: comedian and he was really funny, but he was he

950
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 2: was talking about how Father's Day is like the twentieth holiday,

951
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 2: the most popular holiday, and he was like, Arbor Day

952
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: is above Father's Day. And I don't know if I'm

953
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:55,439
Speaker 2: going to say that, but like.

954
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,240
Speaker 4: I'm not going to rank it because my dad listens,

955
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 4: So Father's Day is very high on the list. Also,

956
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 4: you know what, I like Father's Day because my dad

957
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 4: is really easy to shop for.

958
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 2: Oh wait, wait, does your mom have to get him.

959
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:06,959
Speaker 5: A gift again?

960
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 4: If she doesn't get him something on our own, shild

961
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 4: like go in on a gift with us. But growing

962
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 4: up it was always my pole and growing up it

963
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 4: was my parents got gifts from each other, my sister's

964
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 4: and I got something different.

965
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 2: How old are your siblings?

966
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 4: My older sister is thirty two and my younger sister

967
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 4: is almost twenty five.

968
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: Okay, so, mister Surreh, do you really believe that your

969
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 2: wife should be getting you anything when all you're.

970
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 5: Able town your Twitter Darren.

971
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 2: All your able body children can afford to go and

972
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 2: get you something like whatever, the nice pair of socks.

973
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 3: There are two kinds of people in the world. There

974
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 3: are those people who outsource the Mother's Day and Father's

975
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 3: Day gifts on their siblings, and there are those who

976
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 3: take the burden on from their other siblings to take

977
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 3: care of the Mother's Day or Father's Day gift. Are

978
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 3: you in the former of the latter?

979
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 5: I am?

980
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 3: Are you more likely to outsource it or go ahead

981
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 3: and do your brothers and sisters was a solid no outsource.

982
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 5: But I will say my.

983
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 4: Especially with Mother's Day, my sisters are much more similar

984
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 4: to my mother in terms of like shopping and style

985
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 4: and things of that nature. So we we do discuss

986
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 4: gift ideas and then we work through them as siblings

987
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 4: as I think this is a better idea, I think

988
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 4: this is we should do this instead, So we do.

989
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 4: We make decisions together. But yeah, my dad's pretty easily

990
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 4: easy to shop for. It's usually something regarding grilling or

991
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 4: golf so or pictures of my nephews grandson, so that's

992
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 4: pretty easy.

993
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 3: I remember I remember vividly what I got last year

994
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 3: because it's what I didn't get. I got a box

995
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 3: of Whoppers maltballs, and I got a dollar dollars dollar.

996
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 3: I like the maltball, but you know, so and then

997
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 3: then I got a Dollar Store card, which I'm pretty

998
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 3: sure was purchased the previous year. And so those were

999
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 3: just happened to be around the house, and those were

1000
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 3: and that that was Father's Day. So to Darren's boil,

1001
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 3: where Father's Day ranks as LVC would be somewhere beyond

1002
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 3: Arbor Day. Yes, there's no question. I'm I'm living evidence

1003
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 3: to that. I'll tell you much. It's difficult, though, I mean, Danny,

1004
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 3: let me just say I'm mad enough to admit that

1005
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 3: getting the wife a gift at least five times a year,

1006
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:19,760
Speaker 3: every year, year after.

1007
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 4: Year, Yes, five times, yes, Oh, Birthday, holidays, anniversary, mothers yes.

1008
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 3: Yes, Birthday, Christmas anniversary, Valentine's twenty years yeah, yeah, year

1009
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 3: five times a year.

1010
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 2: I heard that.

1011
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 4: Maybe I get that, Maybe it does make more sense

1012
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 4: to just do like a dinner or flowers Valentine's.

1013
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 2: She's gonna get married and she won't be thinking that anymore.

1014
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 2: She's gonna be like, somebody's gonna pull this almost gonna

1015
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 2: pull this sound and then give it to her future

1016
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: husband and he's gonna be able to play it, and

1017
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 2: she's gonna like, I know, I was young and immature,

1018
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 2: that I didn't realize what I was saying. Oh, absolutely,

1019
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 2: give me all the presents all the time.

1020
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 5: I am saying. I get it.

1021
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 4: When your kids get older and they can handle this

1022
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 4: on their own, flowers or dinner is suffice. But when

1023
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 4: you've got young kids and elementary middle school clubs, yes,

1024
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 4: you should be getting a guest.

1025
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 2: And really, as a father, when your kids to get

1026
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 2: to be older, all you really want is for them

1027
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 2: to be self sufficient. I don't need a freaking present.

1028
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 2: I just don't need you necessarily living in my house.

1029
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 3: I got personal requick. So last question, will the Cardinals

1030
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 3: get a primetime game when the schedule is released.

1031
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 4: It's interesting because they have some really good opponents that

1032
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 4: would make me say yes, Well, the Cardinals get a

1033
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 4: primetime game because of their positioning and of their roster.

1034
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 4: Well said no, But I do think when you look

1035
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 4: at the when you're gonna have to take an account

1036
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 4: all the other games these other teams are playing. When

1037
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 4: you've got the Steelers, and you've got the Eagles with

1038
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon, and you've got the Cowboys, and you've got

1039
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 4: you know, like, I think they're to pot the Bengals

1040
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 4: if it's late enough, when Kyler Murray's expected to be back,

1041
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 4: I could see that happening.

1042
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 2: Here's what Paul would love would be just like two

1043
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 2: thousand and eight. We'll do the Gannon reunion, but we'll

1044
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 2: do it as a night game in like late November

1045
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 2: in Philadelphia.

1046
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 3: The drunkest crowd I've ever seen Thanksgiving Night, the late

1047
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 3: game in Philly. They'd been so lubricating all day and

1048
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 3: then they didn't have to work on Friday. That Philly

1049
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 3: crowd was absolutely off the hook. It was beyond I

1050
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 3: have stories that I can't even tell in this podcast

1051
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 3: from watching that, especially when the game got a hand

1052
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 3: and then it was more entertaining to watch the stands

1053
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 3: and it was the field at that point. But to

1054
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 3: your point, Darren, and this is what I'm going to

1055
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 3: try and caution Danny with here, is that when you

1056
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 3: don't necessarily have the roster that would speak to the

1057
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 3: scheduling gods for primetime games, especially minus year franchise quarterback,

1058
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 3: you can be placed as the opponent on the road

1059
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 3: in some of these primetime games, meaning on the road

1060
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 3: and Thanksgiving Night on the road and other you know,

1061
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 3: to be that Thursday night road team that maybe another

1062
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 3: team might balk at or what have you. And since

1063
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 3: the Cardinals have not had a lot of Thursday night

1064
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 3: road games recently, to my recollection, no, I could definitely

1065
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 3: see that happening.

1066
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 2: But I after reading Peter King's analysis of how Amazon

1067
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 2: wants better Thursday night games, I personally totally I see

1068
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 2: them not having one. We'll see. I mean, obviously it's

1069
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 2: up in the air, and they could end up with one.

1070
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 2: I would think it would be later in the year,

1071
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 2: for sure, because you want to give yourself every opportunity

1072
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 2: to have Kyler Murray on the field. But I guess

1073
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 2: we'll find out they haven't had they haven't had a

1074
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 2: season where they didn't have There's only been three seasons

1075
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 2: where they didn't have a primetime game since two thousand.

1076
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 2: It was two thousand and four, two thousand and three,

1077
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 2: two thousand and four, and twenty eleven.

1078
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 3: Gotcha. And by the way, two other things to remember

1079
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 3: is that a year ago the Cardinals did the joint practice,

1080
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 3: and I use that generously to describe what the session

1081
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 3: was the Cardinals and Titans.

1082
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 2: I prefer to call that the COVID trip.

1083
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so that will that happen for the Cardinals

1084
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 3: in preseason this year, will they be on the road

1085
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Speaker 3: for a joint practice?

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Speaker 2: I am guessing yes, because I believe the stadium is

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Speaker 2: being used for Beyonce concert.

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Speaker 5: Okay, shoot, which one am I going.

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Speaker 3: To choose reverse engineering on that one?

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Speaker 2: You do what you gotta do, Danny.

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Speaker 3: And then with a lot of East Coast games playing

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Speaker 3: the NFC East and so forth, what if will there

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Speaker 3: be one of those you stay on the Eastern time

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Speaker 3: zone between Philly and Washington, in between Pittsburgh and Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't. I don't know. I don't know

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Speaker 3: how that would work.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how, especially because yeah, I guess, well,

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Speaker 4: even last year we when we try, we never left

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Speaker 4: on a Friday. But I think that's because we were

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Speaker 4: still on Mountain Standard time, so only being two hours behind.

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Speaker 4: But now Big three, maybe that'll affect even leaving on

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Speaker 4: Friday instead of a Saturday.

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Speaker 5: A lot of choices, more time on the road together.

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Speaker 5: Paul and Darren. Yeah, sorry Darren.

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Speaker 3: No, and don't bring up travel in COVID, because that

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Speaker 3: was by far the worst travel year, not just the

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Speaker 3: fact there were COVID restrictions and protocols in place, but

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Speaker 3: remember the schedule at New York Giants, at New York Jets,

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Speaker 3: at Carolina, at New England.

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Speaker 2: That was a brutal tr to New York trips and

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Speaker 2: not being able to see the city stunk. And I

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Speaker 2: thought for a minute there he was going to say

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Speaker 2: it was a brootal year because that was the year

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Speaker 2: that he and I had to share a box every game.

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Speaker 2: He didn't get to go on the sideline, so he

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Speaker 2: had to be in the same room as me every time.

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Speaker 3: No, I was just happy to have someone, I mean,

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Speaker 3: otherwise it would have been come. That was when we

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Speaker 3: sat in New York MetLife Stadium and we could hear

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Speaker 3: the sideline, Yes, that was Zerie.

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Speaker 2: And Seattle Seattle that night game we could hear the

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Speaker 2: sideline and guys each other. That's remarkably I don't want

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Speaker 2: to do that again.

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Speaker 3: And that'll do it for this edition. Cardinals Underground brought

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