WEBVTT - Anthony Hamilton 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.600 This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:08.879 production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.680 Steve Smith Senior and I'm a little John and this 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:15.920 is cut to It. Good do it, Good do it. 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:19.520 They's getting down to do it. Good do it. We 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:22.880 asked the questions you always want to know, but no 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:29.040 one ever asked, let's cut to it. You ain't heard 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:35.080 about it, then we're about to let you know. It's all. 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:44.880 Let's go. Man coming up. I'm super excited. We've got 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:49.440 Anthony Hamilton's R and B singer, Grammy Award winner, and 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:52.360 he's here in studio for cut to It. He's your name, Brittany, 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:55.440 Yeah he is, and it was It was wonderful to 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:59.240 sit down with him, but also um to be able 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:02.680 to see you and go through the process of how 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:08.760 creative genius, how you could just take something small and 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:12.000 making just something huge like that. And he did to 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:14.280 cut to an intro song. So I'm really excited to 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:15.960 talk about that as well. Yeah, that's what I was 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:17.880 talking about. I don't know, I don't know anything else 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:27.880 that you were talking about, Anthony, How you know, how 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:31.440 did this go? I was scared to to talk to 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:36.039 you and ask you. Um, I was nervous. I was like, man, 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:40.959 because we were thinking about music and um, and I 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:44.000 was just like, man, I know Anthony, I gotta I 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:47.200 think I got a pretty good relationshipship with him. I'm 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:49.440 kind of scared to ask him because I know how 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:55.760 how many people ask ask me things, ask things of me, 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:58.200 and I'm just like, man, I want to be that dude. 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:00.520 And you served it up as a possible because we 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:02.920 were just thinking of like just some some just regular 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:05.160 leading music and he's like, oh, I got a tie 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:09.760 to Anthony. Were like okay, and then it showed the 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:12.120 tie when I mentioned it. I think it was like 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:18.720 two it was. It was like a month and a half. Damn, 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:24.520 I'm scared, and I just I was. It was scared 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:29.000 to be rejected, but I was also scared to for 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:34.359 you not to feel used. You know, I was on it, um, 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:37.040 and I knew you were coming from a place, not 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:44.160 like that cousin who keeps asking for the cash. You know, 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.000 it was from a different place than the cash I 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:51.200 asked or the you know, man, I don't know what 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:53.400 I'm gonna do. So it wasn't that you know, you 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:55.119 put in a lot of work. I'm a big fan 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:57.760 of who you are and what you represent as a 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:01.360 not only a football player, but the fall him. So 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:04.280 I knew it was coming from a different place. Um, 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:06.200 and then you know, I want to know, what do 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:09.200 you have music? Because do I need to get music 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:11.600 or do you have music? All those things, you know, 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:14.600 made it even easier for me to go, And I said, 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.000 all right, I was in the studio. I was like, 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:21.880 let me listen to this music. I was like, okay. First, actually, yeah, 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:23.560 we had we had a few tracks that my brother 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.480 in law actually is as a producer, so he made 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:28.239 he made some beats, and so we sent him over 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:30.440 and we went back in fore phones and which one 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:33.600 sounds good? Which ones are are worthy enough for for 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:35.240 you to grace is with your presence on him? And 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:38.160 so we sent him over to you. Yeah, this this 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:41.720 one stood out, Yeah, because it sounded you know, I 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:43.840 had a good energy about it. And so I was like, 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:47.080 all right, I can see myself you know, doing something 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:51.360 to this one. Yeah. I was like, uh, who was 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:58.840 June slap in the middle of a pandemic? Also, yeah, 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:01.760 because we kept seeing each each other, we kept seeing 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:06.480 each other on walks. They store. Oh. We was in 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:11.000 the grocery store, was in the neighborhood taking walks. Man, 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:16.640 we was walking all the time, and uh, and I 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:22.400 taught us him, Man, this is fire. Yeah. And it 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:25.080 was a lot of conversation going on. And then I 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.359 was like, he's like, man, I haven't see you. I 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:33.840 was like, well, we also moved. It was like what yeah, 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:36.400 and so it was and so he said it to 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:41.039 me and I still have it so June and then 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:47.520 that's when we did. Uh. That's when he's Anthony sent 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:50.920 it back to me. I want you to hear and 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:53.600 he was like, yo, I can't tell you all all 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:56.320 of the other parts of it too. So he gave 0:04:56.400 --> 0:05:21.960 he gave you a preview. So yeah, yeah, I wanted 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.159 it to have that old R and B like yeah, 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:27.760 I kind of all right cool that. Yeah, it gave 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:30.080 me a feeling like the old good R and B. 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:33.000 I don't want it to sound good. I want people 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:36.240 to be like, what is this. I listened to it 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:41.599 so missing my kids. My kids was finally like all right, dad, 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:46.919 that's enough. Yeah. So but I love it. The fact 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:49.920 that we have it on the podcast. You can download 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:54.719 it just the intro, like it's just it's you know, 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:56.960 like it ain't like, oh this is something we did know, 0:05:57.160 --> 0:06:00.680 this is this is Anthony. I'm just shoo. I'm just 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:05.160 a good look at that handsome guys. Subjectives. We had 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:08.200 people I want to download the song, like is there 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.560 more to it? Wow? Yeah? People hit this up. I'm 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:15.479 happy to Yeah, we cash out that. Yeah. So who track? 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:19.680 Who produced that people? Yeah, Alex Johnson. So it's my 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:21.640 brother in law's he's a producer. He lives up in 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:25.840 d C. Okay, about to bless it with the whole thing. Okay, yeah, 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:28.239 we'll link it up. We'll link it up. Whoa, whoa, 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:32.320 whoa whoa. Steve you your this this this is a 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:34.040 Grammy winner, he said. He want to he want to 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:36.640 link something up. You know, I understand, but I own it. 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:42.320 We ain't got four gram in the budget. I'm gonna 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:47.280 be way more than four. Ain't talking like oh my my, 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:51.400 my business in contracts. You just said it up all 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:56.640 I said. All I said, like he's like we hooked 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:59.480 U up. I'm like this hooking up. I got to 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:03.200 write the check just to see where I would go creatively. 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:06.359 You know, I'll be like, let me see what you 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:11.880 want to background. Oh that's like a temptate. Yeah, we 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.600 gotta come up with a routine. Routine. You gotta wash 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:17.320 the hamstring with that movie. Now they're still good. I 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:20.400 know I'm running it. I took off running the other day. 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:26.120 My boys didn't know I ran track. Yeah, ran the hurdles. 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:31.080 The first one tine tin hurdles and another fellow mention 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:36.120 and yeah, yeah hurdles long jump. Now I say fellow 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:40.200 mention because he will tell you generally the high hurdlers 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:44.360 are not five nine and below. They usually six ten 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:49.000 and above. Yeah. Yeah, now you just murder that did 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.520 you play us play football? That played football? Is tail 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:54.400 back in the safety? How long? When did you discover 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:57.160 you no longer? We're good in football? When I broke 0:07:57.200 --> 0:08:00.840 my legs back, broke my leg makeing a tack, let 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:05.360 me let me let me guess tall sweet ye making 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:09.840 a tackle? You always it's just like you know why 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:13.920 because that running to the side. Yeah, safety blew up, 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:17.840 that d gap tackle got tripped up. Yeah that's what 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:22.760 it was. I'm like, I'm make a pile, but I'm 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:27.679 coming up like ah, you said, I'm done. I'm done. 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:35.280 I'm to where's the mike. Where's the microphone? The microphone? Yeah? Yeah, 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:37.679 all right, well Anthony. Our first segments called get ice 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:43.360 stuck just icebreaker questions. They're randomly select super random ahead, 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.160 give the first You're ready? Would you rather lose the 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:54.360 ability to read or lose the ability to speak the 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:59.760 ability to read? At fourth singer, I already know what 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:04.800 I'm sact tired of it. I don't want no more. 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:10.840 I got to read that to do? Uh, I go 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:14.520 with losibility to speak. I need to be able to 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:16.880 read some contracts I can. I can deal with that. 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:19.360 I don't want to. I don't want to lose. I 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:21.080 don't want to lose my literacy. You gotta have a 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:26.280 really good threat when you like if this eventually, I don't, 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:31.800 eventually I find out that this ain't what it is all. 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:34.160 You gotta have a real one of them and make 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:36.880 good on one or two. Uh, they have you don't 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:40.200 have to read? Have your money that James had a pistol? 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:45.120 Which one would you choose? I'm gonna just say what 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:47.280 some of these folks taking. Hell, if you look on 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:51.800 the back of some of the containers and the ingredients 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:58.720 of food ship, I can't read anywhere. Yeah, you gotta 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:00.760 look at the word, then look it up to see 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:05.480 what it is. So I'm gonna speak because I do 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.600 agree with you, and this is people listening would understand. 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:11.959 All you gotta do is molly whapp a few people 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:14.120 and then when you throw it out there that it's 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:16.520 a possibility you're gonna molly whapp them. Man, your track 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:22.760 record shows that you are mopper. Yeah, then you start 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:26.079 you just like you ever seen you ever seen a 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:31.320 you ever seen a mute? Molly whopper? Don't go too well, 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:37.760 it's probably a hard lick, all right. What long shot 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:43.880 have you taken that really paid off? Long shot have taken? Yeah? 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:47.959 Your version of long shot? Because they're all there, um 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:53.040 betting on this music thing. Yeah yeah, betting on this 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:56.079 and and going through with it and and taking all 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:59.280 the steps, just putting all my all this betting on 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:04.120 it hard. Yeah, and it's paying off. That's cool. Yeah. 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:08.400 What food do you love that a lot of people 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:12.640 might find a little odd? What food? I love that 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:19.760 most people will find a little odd? M as you're 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:22.640 thinking about I can tell you Mineu's I don't know 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:26.559 what it is, bro, but I really enjoy sometimes just 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:32.240 make it some some fruity pebble rice, crispy trees. I 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:37.280 don't know why, Like I like, it's some people for 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:39.680 two year old man. Some people say, no, you're still 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:44.000 eating Cereal. I mean I love Cereal, do too, but 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:47.559 I still look at the box. They got Whole Cereal bars. 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:50.920 Now you can just go in there and whatever. It's 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:59.920 sugar some of that stuff on there. Molly's the backup 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:04.440 looks like what's wrong with Anthony? You know some of them. 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:09.560 I'm gonna say, um, Vegan beat loaf that some people 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:14.920 would say like Vegan Lona, like go beyond is what's 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:29.480 the what's the us beyond? And this one called something life. Yeah, 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:42.360 you're talking about butters got him. That tickled him to 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:47.200 that South met right even like, man, I tell you, 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:50.760 I used that. I'm telling I don't care how old is, 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:53.080 I don't care where are you from? What you think? 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:57.040 When I was when I was in Baltimore, at least 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:02.160 once a week, in the middle of either team meetings 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:05.680 or or offensive meets, I would say it and I 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:09.320 don't know, I don't care how old you all you mate, 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:16.679 it's always a tickler. Yeah, So I'll continue with your 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:20.000 and you said being a meat loaf. Yeah, some people 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:23.880 feel I guess they feel like, um, if it's not meat, 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:28.080 has it meat loaf? Yeah? They don't understand, Like why 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:33.560 would you not either perfectly good turkey meat loaf or 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:36.960 or beef meat loaf? And you want to play around 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:39.719 pretend like you eating meat loaf, but it's it's it's 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:42.320 pretty good. You cook it. Because I heard pretty I 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:44.600 cook it. I got a question in so that just 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:48.120 makes oxtails sometime and beef ribs. Oh, so you're vegan now. 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:49.720 I wasn't for two and a half years. I'm still 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:53.520 back on seafood now. And believe it or not, there 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:56.120 was a moment once I had COVID really bad and decent. 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:59.079 You know, we'll probably get into it. But after that, 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:03.480 I was like, you know what, almost die. I won't wings. 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:07.400 I must have bought the biggest bag from Giant Penny 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:12.079 on Friday, every last one on the back porch until 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:15.720 I didn't want it no more. Man, I hate so many. Yeah, 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:21.840 I was gonna You're gonna die big God, Ha's gotta 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:25.600 be born on the way hole. You had a whole 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:28.960 conversation with self yea, oh yeah, you was right there, 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:32.320 you're about to the white light in your mind. It was, Yeah, 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:35.680 it was kind of cruel. So I got a question, man, 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:41.080 is a hot dog considered a sandwich? Hot dog is 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:45.320 a hot dog. It's kind of a sundward but it 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:47.120 ain't really. I don't I don't want to call a 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:49.640 hot dog a sandwich. It's kind of it's in the 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:53.880 way of all the other a lot of other great 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:58.000 sandwiches that that's like, you keep pushing. The hot dog 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:01.120 is here, so it's gonna put sandwich back. What there's 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:05.760 a hierarchy. Yeah, yeah, that's see turkey sound. Yeah, that's 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:08.560 the sandwich sound. You know ham soundwich. You know you 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:14.040 got all these great sandwiches blog blonely sounded sound. And 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:18.600 I ain't gone to you fried bologney, that Webber's bread 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:21.080 that got us through a lot when I was a kid. 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:30.560 Now some smack the salting crackers. First listen. Listen when 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:32.280 you were broke and that's all we had on a 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:37.640 Friday buying the soft I was, I was broke. But 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:40.040 I don't know what potted meat is. Can it's a 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:43.840 can of just scrambled brains. I don't know where it's from. 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:48.120 It's stuff. It's pink. It's usually right beside where the 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:53.520 spam look. But it's it's it's a can of something. Yeah. 0:15:53.920 --> 0:16:03.040 I don't know how to explain because I take myself 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:08.480 out of the game. I wrote both ankles colts. I 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:10.440 don't know. I don't know where it's from. I don't know, 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:12.600 but it's it's just in a can. It was beside 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:16.560 of spam away and it had like jelly, and I 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:20.520 am like spam had spam. And I've ate Vienna sausage. 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:27.600 I've never needed meat tunas I eat tuna. That's not pot. 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:29.480 But I'm just saying all that was on the same 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:31.880 as all that was on the same broke out broke. 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:40.040 I'm just making sure where I ate a sausage and 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:45.440 tuna chicken. But I never I never browsed the pot 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:49.440 of meat. So okay, last one, then last one, And 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:53.360 this is damn it. This is the most important. Yeah, sugar, 0:16:53.520 --> 0:17:00.240 salt in your grits, man, Salt and pepper and butter. Yeah, yeah, 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:02.840 you like sugar. You come on, man, I've been speaking 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:06.000 to you all these years. What what what? What complex? 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:10.360 Your emma know that we are not the same, don't 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:14.520 salt and co host King. That's that's that's that's fine. 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:17.040 But hey, listen, I'm not you can't. You can't speak 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:22.040 for all light skin the committee, your your your your 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:24.680 status is in question. You drive like you like salt 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:27.280 and pepper, butter and your grips man, you laying to 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:30.920 the you laying with it, sugar, sugar for the West 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:34.200 Coast to sugar drive. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:36.240 and get his ass up today if you have, to 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:38.280 go ahead and get him back hand just a little, 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:42.520 a little up on them, you know, on the steering wheels. 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:46.600 Stern roll, roll it all the way up there, Alex 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:50.840 and small guy. That's that's what y'all going. That's what 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:53.640 that's what's left in your bag. I got a hold. 0:17:55.200 --> 0:18:04.360 That was the one that kept this podcasting stiff. So 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:06.760 you know, let's jump into it because I think it's 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:09.000 gonna be fun, and I and I want to ask 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:11.280 we want to ask you some things and really just 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:15.919 get your fans opportunity. And then also, you know, you 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:21.080 know how it is man so much the podcast or media, 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:25.320 there's so much information out there. You sometimes are lazy 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:29.959 enough not to really just dive into it. And so 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:32.760 I found myself just down if it's just go on 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:35.880 your Wikipedia, and then I just saw all the things 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:38.720 and all that stuff, and it just made me think 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:42.200 about all these questions. And we've had some of these 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:45.280 dialogues and talks, but I think some people really don't 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:54.400 know how intriguing, discouraging, tough it is too. I want 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:58.520 to have a career and what it and really what 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:00.840 it goes through. So um, so I thought I was 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:03.920 is it would be really cool. So we always asked, 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:05.439 you know, where are you from in the place you 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:09.000 call your hometown. I'm from Charlotte, North Carolina, born and 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:12.840 raised here, and I called this home. Um, I went 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:15.760 away to New York. I lived in Harlem for about 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:19.920 eight years, in New Jersey, Inglewood and Teenack, New Jersey. 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:23.919 So it's going about fourteen fifteen years, and uh, but 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:28.160 I came back home because this this is just home now. 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:31.800 Not to aid you, but being born in the seventies 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:36.000 living in North Carolina, I know in my nineteen years, 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:41.560 I'm amazed at how how it changed. I'm interested to here. 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:46.639 How was North Carolina? Charlotte, North Carolina. You went to 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:50.720 South Mack High School, Yeah, and finished up at Harden right, 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:59.240 and I'm imagining and in in assuming here in the 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:08.200 South late seventies, early eighties, it was different here, yeah, definitely. 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:12.840 You know, coming up, I didn't have an experience with 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:18.199 a lot of outside of my neighborhood encounters. Um. But 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:20.200 you know, you hear the stories and you you see 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:23.040 the news and everything. As you get older, you started 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:27.160 to pay attention to what's going on and just um, 0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:29.840 you know my side of town and different side of towns, 0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:33.120 which was what side of town west Boulevard, the western side, 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:36.320 south side, and I grew up there, but they look 0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:39.840 different than deal Worth, you know. So my grandmother would 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:44.919 she used to clean houses and she would get us, 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:46.840 put us on the city bus, me and my sister, 0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:49.320 and drive us through the real nice neighborhoods and let 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:52.159 us see which were were neighborhoods at that deal Worth 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:55.800 Um bound time didn't exist. No, it was just a 0:20:55.880 --> 0:21:00.359 dairy farm deal Worth yeah, right right where you lived. 0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:05.399 You know, that neighborhood was a dairy farm. That's crazy. 0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:09.080 And then Male Graham and some of his people, for 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:12.280 the Graham's and nephew, they brought it up and turned it, 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:16.600 you know, developed it into what it is now. Um, 0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:19.119 but yeah, a lot of that was fiels. So we 0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:22.199 should go out there rave and raise hell can you 0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:25.680 say hell? Yeah said, I mean not everything you want 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:31.239 to but not everything I was internalize it if they 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:36.360 don't get therapy, you know, makes me better. Um. But yeah, 0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:39.359 you see a lot a lot of there's a lot 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:44.720 of opportunities that came, um, you know, with a with 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:47.600 a lot of hard work. Um. But then there's some 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:53.080 still some similarities as in you know, being able to 0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:56.760 to have the better jobs and certain things being you 0:21:56.800 --> 0:22:01.560 know of color. Um, it's a little different, um, but 0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:05.480 I see some growth in different areas. Would you call 0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:16.880 your career in music business an industry or another word? 0:22:17.920 --> 0:22:24.040 It's an industry. Um that's operated you know with business. 0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:31.359 And it's also a place for me to to really 0:22:31.520 --> 0:22:37.199 um exhale. So it's kind of therapeutic for me and 0:22:38.320 --> 0:22:42.000 in so many ways, UM, I get to take the 0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:45.560 chance to to to handle business in this industry, to 0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:49.480 put my thoughts out there and to to you know, 0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:52.280 ad out some laundry. So I use it for a 0:22:52.280 --> 0:22:56.120 little bit of everything. Yeah, how were you first introduced 0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:59.920 to music man from the womb? It it goes back 0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:04.800 that deep. My mother and father both love music, and 0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:07.600 you know, we heard it a lot. My grandmother it 0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:13.320 was just gospel. She was so saved and uh, you 0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:18.760 know that's pretty. That's pretty, that's that's a unique, that's 0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:21.760 a pretty. What kind of gospel? Though? Who are we talking? 0:23:22.760 --> 0:23:27.280 Don't feel New Easter? James Cleveland all that kind of 0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:32.200 Oh James Cleveland. Now, James Cleveland, his church I grew up. 0:23:32.640 --> 0:23:36.400 His church was like four blocks from my house. James Cleveland, 0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:39.359 Los Angeles. James Cleveland had died and they realized he 0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:43.720 was doing at that James Cleveland, Yeah, yeah, I was. 0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:46.480 They churched that church into a at one point of 0:23:46.520 --> 0:23:52.560 picking safe yeah, and no respect when you're taking things 0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:59.320 in the Lord's name. That was such a churchy response. Hey, 0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:02.919 you know in the regular world, you take stuff like that, 0:24:02.960 --> 0:24:11.800 you go to jail. We have to take a break 0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:15.440 and the morning thing, we gotta pay some bills. You 0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:22.960 got checks. I love cut to It, and I love 0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:27.119 it even more when you download us and subscribe and 0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:29.760 you can follow us on social media too. Smithie, where 0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:32.760 where at that's at? Cut to It on Instagram? What 0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:38.000 about Twitter? At? Cut to It? Facebook? Cut to It 0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:41.919 featuring Steve Smith singr what about online and you can 0:24:41.920 --> 0:24:44.600 follow us at cut to It podcast dot com where 0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:47.720 you can buy merch and you can subscribe to us 0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:51.600 wherever you listen to podcasts. I got all my answers questions. 0:24:51.640 --> 0:24:56.000 Uh yeah, I got all my questions answered. That's what 0:24:56.040 --> 0:25:00.000 I'm here for, a brother, cut to a podcast dot com. 0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:04.199 Describe your journey from from your perspective of getting into 0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:08.720 the business world and the industry of music, but also 0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:11.320 you're saying it's your therapy and you get the air 0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:14.280 your dirty laundry and are your good laundry as well, 0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:19.679 and it is a career because early on I knew, okay, 0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:23.280 this is what I want to do. You know, you 0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:27.640 dream about being a musician, singer, songwriter, and every all 0:25:27.680 --> 0:25:32.560 of my steps were toward anything musical, from school, from 0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:38.120 church first being on the choir, to school choir singing 0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:42.360 or just in the chord. I led a few songs. 0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:44.480 You know when you when you're young, you don't want 0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:46.880 all that attention at the time, and then you start 0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:51.640 getting older, I said, I started singing out more twelve thirteen, 0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:55.000 girls start saying you oh the sing sing for me? 0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:59.520 She will absolutely look at that game. Yeah, you start 0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:04.200 getting more are comfortable with your gifts, and you start 0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:07.640 trying to find um ways to ticket to the next level. 0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:11.440 So I to get into talent shows, form little groups 0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:17.840 around town, um, start harmonizing and before YouTube, before the Yeah, 0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:22.679 it was just you know at school, when you know, 0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:25.679 lunch time. But you you go back though, you said, 0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:29.760 confident in your gift and when did you know it 0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:33.800 was a gift when you when you dream about it 0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:37.280 and you feel so connected to something like that is 0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:42.360 almost magical feeling, and you can't you can't stop doing 0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:45.080 it or thinking about it. And you know something birth 0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:49.720 than you that that's special and those things that gifts um, 0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:51.760 because you didn't ask for it, you didn't train for it, 0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:54.960 so it's kind of given to you. UM. So I 0:26:55.000 --> 0:26:59.520 knew then to continue with it because if I hadn't, 0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:03.840 you know, taking it that serious that early on, and 0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:07.000 got swayed away from it, I would be miserable, probably 0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:09.640 on trucks somewhere or something, just miserable because that's who 0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:12.679 I am, truly. So I made I made every step 0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:15.280 to to get to the next level of it. I 0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:19.440 started performing in talent shows, and want a few got 0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:23.120 booed a few times. Yeah, right here in Charlotte. What's 0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:27.639 that do for you? Um? The booing and and and 0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:31.200 the winning. You know, winning is good. It's always good 0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:35.320 to win. But sometimes you when you get booed, if 0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:39.480