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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio Podcast,

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Speaker 1: Episode two, Can you Believe It? And we made it?

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Speaker 1: We made it truly week. Yes, what a week it's been. Man,

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Speaker 1: your thumbs have been really busy. I have just been well.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I just want to say thank you

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Speaker 1: to everyone that listened to the first podcast and listen

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Speaker 1: to us and and honestly made it. It was a

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Speaker 1: little bit of drama that day though. I was I

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Speaker 1: had a rough day way of release. It was really dramatic,

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Speaker 1: and I was watching you reply to the thousands of people,

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Speaker 1: you know, because being accused of something that you're you're

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Speaker 1: not doing is upsetting and can cause anxiety. What were

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Speaker 1: you like? What were you thinking? So for those of

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Speaker 1: you that didn't go on my Instagram or catching any

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Speaker 1: the drama, I was so excited obviously, I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: my podcast wind downs out like who And all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden I started reading comments you stole You're a thief?

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Speaker 1: And I'm like what, like what? And I'm texting Amy,

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Speaker 1: the producer, and I was like, what is going on?

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Speaker 1: Like what did would we steal? Something? Like? I like

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Speaker 1: this other podcast lady says that you know I took

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Speaker 1: her idea and her logo and her like what. So

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Speaker 1: I was just so upset, I mean, and then I

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Speaker 1: started kind of doing some research on this, um Tasha girl,

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Speaker 1: and she I mean was like, hey, girls like go

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Speaker 1: after at Cramer girl. I mean they would after me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was it was like Katie Taylor level. I mean

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Speaker 1: it was. It was a little insane for a while.

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Speaker 1: It was intense, and it hurt my feelings because I

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Speaker 1: don't like to me, the definition of stealing is taking

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Speaker 1: something that you knew about. I didn't steal anything. I

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Speaker 1: didn't steal. I didn't know about her m vlog or podcast. Um.

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Speaker 1: I mean even if you if you were to search

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Speaker 1: her podcast on iTunes, it doesn't come up. So even

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Speaker 1: if I heart, did you know more research about the

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Speaker 1: name or correlating things, it wouldn't have even come up

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Speaker 1: because it's not a registered podcast on iTunes. But it's

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Speaker 1: also so different because we have different we have different

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Speaker 1: lives to talk about, you know, same topic celebrity stuff.

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Speaker 1: We talk about sex, we talk about marriage, we talked

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Speaker 1: about you know, kids, but who doesn't. And I mean

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Speaker 1: there's so many podcasts that talk about those issues. So

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Speaker 1: for me, what I didn't like about it was and

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Speaker 1: why I ended up saying something was because first of all,

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Speaker 1: she was extremely upset and she called me a nasty word,

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Speaker 1: and I don't like for me personally. Don't attack me

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Speaker 1: if you don't. First, I don't attack anybody. But if

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Speaker 1: you don't know me, you don't know my heart, then

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's fair for you to like attack

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Speaker 1: know who I am as a person, and then you

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Speaker 1: can have your opinion about me. But don't call me

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Speaker 1: a thief, a steeler and a you know what, which

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Speaker 1: don't know my intentions in my heart, I don't like that,

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Speaker 1: and that is what really hurt me, and I ended

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Speaker 1: up getting emotional about it because I don't I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't like it when I understand people are gonna

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Speaker 1: like me. I understand people aren't going to agree with

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Speaker 1: But if you're calling me something I mean like that

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Speaker 1: and you don't know who I am, I take a

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Speaker 1: huge amount offense to that because it's like, get to

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Speaker 1: know me first, and then if you want to call

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Speaker 1: think that, then I'm sorry you have the opinion of me.

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Speaker 1: But she didn't get the chance to get to know me.

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Speaker 1: She didn't. I don't feel like she went around it

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Speaker 1: is I understand people share emotions in a different way,

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Speaker 1: and for her it was anger first. And a lot

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Speaker 1: of times I'm emotional first with my feelings, but I

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Speaker 1: just feel like in the world, everyone just goes straight

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Speaker 1: to anger first, and that's not how things get resolved.

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Speaker 1: I don't think, well, nothing gets resolved in anger. But

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Speaker 1: We don't have the same personality. We have very different personalities. Well,

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Speaker 1: perspective and everything, right, But regardless, I don't like the

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Speaker 1: to have this opinion of me. I did not take

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Speaker 1: something that I I didn't steal anything, So but what

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Speaker 1: would make you happy? And you know, people saying you

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Speaker 1: don't have to change anything, I'm like, but I want

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Speaker 1: to because I don't like negative energy. So what is it?

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Speaker 1: Is it changing the color? Is it taking away the

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Speaker 1: I don't like people that don't get to know someone

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Speaker 1: So did you talk to Mike about it? I Mike

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Speaker 1: got upset about it, and I was like do you

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Speaker 1: want to see that. He's like, no, because I will

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Speaker 1: like he was the steeler and thief. But I didn't

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Speaker 1: we have, right And in the end, you know, I

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Speaker 1: not dragging women down, not dragging other people down. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I always say, we have to fix each other's crowns

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Speaker 1: instead of like knocking like that. You know, we have

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Speaker 1: to know me before you judge me, is all I ask. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's very painful. Yeah, and did had Mike listened to

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Speaker 1: have a voice for radio. He's like, but yeah, some

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Speaker 1: made me sound like I wasn't a a good dad,

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Speaker 1: Mike though, UM, we have a great email. So Marcus,

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Speaker 1: I'm the designated email reader. You have a good email voice.

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Speaker 1: Thank you from Nicki. Nicki emailed and said you may

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Speaker 1: One is twenty one, the other is nineteen. Our marriage

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Speaker 1: about three weeks, so I might need some hugs. Nicky

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Speaker 1: virtual hugs right now. She is. She's on the phone

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Speaker 1: right now. Hi, Thanky, Hi babe. Oh are you I'm good?

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Speaker 1: How are you? First of all, thank you for your email.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for um, you know, being a friend and

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Speaker 1: listening to the podcast, and UM, I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: You are welcome so an empty nester you're about to

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Speaker 1: be I'm about to be an empty nester on first Mama,

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Speaker 1: I know, Oh my goodness, how are you? How are

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Speaker 1: you handling all this? Um? I think I'm in denial

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Speaker 1: because he's still here and trying to finish up school

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Speaker 1: and uh soccer this weekend and just some other things.

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Speaker 1: actually move him out on June one, but took me

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Speaker 1: that around June three. So are you? Um, are you

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Speaker 1: still married? Because I saw in the email? Okay, so

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Speaker 1: so you were able to work through your infidelity. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's happened twice. So when I watched your

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Speaker 1: and of course you probably saw it. It was just rambling.

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Speaker 1: You may never see this, but I saw it, you know,

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Speaker 1: after everything that I have gone through. Um, and I've

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Speaker 1: known my husband since we were sixteen and I'm forty seven. UM,

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Speaker 1: I believe everything is possible through through infidelity if you

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Speaker 1: to start off by saying that I do apologize for

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Speaker 1: any feelings that you had that on my first podcast,

425
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Speaker 1: because I kind of said a little brief thing how

426
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Speaker 1: when all that drama was going down with Natasha girl,

427
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Speaker 1: And then I knew that you had feelings about it too,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm sorry, And I think one

429
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Speaker 1: of the main things for you was that you didn't

430
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Speaker 1: want to seem like you weren't a present dad. Yes,

431
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Speaker 1: because you are, so, would you like to defend yourself,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, Dave the waiting. No, it's just you know,

433
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 1: that's the stereotype of a dad, right that we're just

434
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: in the corner like a gorilla and come home from

435
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: work and sit on the couch and not do anything.

436
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: And I think dad's nowadays in general, are more conscious

437
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 1: of that. We want to, you know, partake in the

438
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: daily activities with kids and everything like that. And I

439
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 1: pride myself in being a present, you know, hands on dad.

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00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,360
Speaker 1: And you know, I understand when you kind of joke

441
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 1: around and bash a little bit. It's it's all out

442
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: of fun. But you know, it's one thing when someone

443
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: takes pride in it, you want to make sure that

444
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Speaker 1: that's not a message that's being portrayed. I'm sorry, valid point,

445
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,959
Speaker 1: valid point, but can you at least admit that, like

446
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Speaker 1: you wouldn't have known, like when to start preschool for Joel,

447
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 1: Like there's certain things that like we just yeah, okay, cool,

448
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: so okay, So like there are certain things that you

449
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Speaker 1: that moms do. Just is it because you guys don't

450
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: know or or are we just kind of taking it over?

451
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 1: I think that's a mother's intuition to is to kind

452
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: of take the reins on some of these things. But

453
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: for me, I think every household is different. Like as

454
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,959
Speaker 1: of right now, you know you're not touring, you're kind

455
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: of in a transition period on a bunch of little

456
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: different things that you're gonna do. So I'm working more

457
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: daily than than you are at this moment, so you're

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00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 1: at home with Jolie more often than I am. So

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00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: you've kind of taken that responsibility on without us even

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Speaker 1: really having a conversation about it. I think if there's

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Speaker 1: a dad that's in the opposite role, like if this

462
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Speaker 1: was two years ago and I was in a different

463
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: role where you were going all the time and I

464
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: was the one more at home, like I should have

465
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Speaker 1: stepped up and and done more of those things, um

466
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Speaker 1: to kind of take the reins. So I think there

467
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Speaker 1: are dads out there that are probably doing that they

468
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 1: are informing their wife, Hey honey, this is when she

469
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Speaker 1: has to go to the dentist, this is when he

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Speaker 1: starts school, and so on and so forth. Well, I

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Speaker 1: do appreciate how hands on you are with really, because

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Speaker 1: I mean one of the you know that, like one

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Speaker 1: of the reasons I have stayed with you for as

474
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Speaker 1: long as I have is because is because you are

475
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: an incredible dad. Like on paper, you know, it doesn't

476
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Speaker 1: look pretty, but like you know, when I look at it,

477
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Speaker 1: it's like you are a very hands on dad. Like

478
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Speaker 1: you are. You love Jolie so much and you you're investing,

479
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: you invest amazing time with her. And you know, I

480
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 1: have a few moms that text me and will say like, man,

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00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: like Mike is like he's such a good dad, Like

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00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: I just see like he's on the ground, like rolling

483
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Speaker 1: around with you know what I mean, Like you're you're

484
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Speaker 1: great dad. So that's something that like you should pride

485
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Speaker 1: yourself in great husband. You're working on it. You know.

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Speaker 1: What's really funny, as we just had a caller Nikki,

487
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Speaker 1: and she was talking about love languages, which I think

488
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: is interesting because we have very different love languages, you know, like, well,

489
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: like mine is mine is touch obviously, and then words

490
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: of affirmation in yours is Mine's more acts of service

491
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: and uh one is words sometimes so words of words

492
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 1: are the same, but the acts of service. I'm like, so,

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00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 1: did you guys just figure out your love languages? We

494
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Speaker 1: went to this amazing retreat about it was last last year. Yeah,

495
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 1: it was. It's a great place. It's called on site. Um.

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00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: It's amazing actually, and it was retreat. We I went

497
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Speaker 1: a couple of times. I went for UM like a

498
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: living center and learned to love yourself, healing trauma UM.

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00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: And they also do like couples too. So Mike and

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Speaker 1: I went for three days no cell phones. I mean,

501
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: you stay at this ranch. It's beautiful. It's in in

502
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: um Cumberland, Cumberland, Tennessee, No Columbia, Tennessee. Yeah. Um. And

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00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,239
Speaker 1: we learned a lot of stuff there, and that's one

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00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: I think that's where we learned the love languages for sure,

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00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: and how yeah, we share those, but it's also very

506
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: different as well, right, and so did you come back

507
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: from that and implement that into your marriage? Not until

508
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: a year later? Interesting, we didn't. We know that we

509
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 1: can figure a lot out of us. Yeah, I mean

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00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 1: we were pretty much we kind of Jane's good friends

511
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Speaker 1: with the guy who runs the place and going into it,

512
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: we basically kind of customize our own, uh therapeutic schedule.

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00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: We're like, look, we need a therapist in a room

514
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: just us for like three days. Let's do this. Um

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00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: let's just a breaking point. It was just something that

516
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: we needed to try to just we needed to sit

517
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: in a room for three days and just hash everything out,

518
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: start from and start from the beginning. But but it

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Speaker 1: we It's it's funny now that we say, like we

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Speaker 1: didn't implement it because there's certain things like remember how

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00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: we said we're supposed to say like, um like if

522
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: you had a feeling that I'm supposed to repeat your feeling.

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00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: We didn't do that for about a year after that.

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00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: So what happened in this year that you guys came

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00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: back and then you didn't implement any of the things

526
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: that you learned? What was that? You're like, what was

527
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: going on? We there was still just a lot of

528
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: tiptoeing around certain things. Yeah, we had what we wanted

529
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: it to look like, but I think there was still

530
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: a lot of you know learning. I mean, I'll let you.

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Speaker 1: I think you had a lot to like. I think

532
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: you just hit your uh about a week ago. I mean,

533
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: the thing is, until someone wants to change themselves, there's

534
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: no amount of therapy, no amount of talking, you can

535
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: do about it, until you make that decision for your show.

536
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: Not saying you didn't want to change yourself, but it

537
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: just you weren't. It didn't click for you. No, it

538
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: didn't click for me. Um. I was still you know,

539
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: my pride and ego were still fighting against each other

540
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: and against my um my kind or beliefs in my

541
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: what I wanted to portray authentic, my authenticity the um.

542
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: So there's an internal battle there for a while on

543
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: on kind of those things. And finally to to kind

544
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: of put my my child stuff aside the way I've said,

545
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: how set in my way as I was, and to

546
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: put away my pride and ego into be vulnerable and

547
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: intimate and stuff like that, which I still, you know,

548
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: have struggled with. But I think men in general, just

549
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: you know, the way society is kind of teaches us

550
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: from a young age too not be as intimate and vulnerable.

551
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: And that's something that I continue to work on with Jana.

552
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: So that's fantastic, But what was the breaking But that's great,

553
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: But what so you came back and through that year,

554
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: you you guys were digesting all this information and everything.

555
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: What was the breaking point where you guys were like

556
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,959
Speaker 1: this is it? Or yeah, yeah, we know what it is.

557
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: But it was ultimately it was Janna. It was her

558
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: being like, look, I'm giving you every opportunity I am,

559
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: I am here, I am willing to work on this.

560
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: I want this family to work. Basically, step up or

561
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: get out. Um. And it was I mean, it got

562
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: to a point where it was an ultimatum. Um. And

563
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: that's where and that's where I hit my breaking point.

564
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: She hit her breaking point and I hit mine. It's

565
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: like I don't want to lose her. You know, I

566
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: don't want to lose Joanna. I don't want to lose

567
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: our family. I don't want to lose what we are

568
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: trying to build. Um. So yeah, and here you are

569
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: and here we are, and how's it going. Well? We

570
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: had a couple of therapy last night, UM, and it

571
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: went good. It's just it's hard. It's one of those

572
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: things where I have my work to do now and

573
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: he still has his work. So we just have to

574
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: work and grow together, right, And it's tough because a

575
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: lot of the time, I still get I get triggered

576
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: a lot, whether I watch a TV show, I mean,

577
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: I got triggered with the Chloe and Tristan stuff, you know,

578
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: of of that, So it's like I could watch a

579
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: TV show, I could watch a movie. I mean. And

580
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: when you get triggered, what happens. He can sense it.

581
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: Sometimes he'll say, I'm sorry if this is triggering you,

582
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: or sometimes I just shut it off. Sometimes I lash

583
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: out and I'm like, I can't believe you did that.

584
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: It's like, but what my job is now because I

585
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: have I'm doing my work as well, is to stay present.

586
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: What is he doing to be a better like what

587
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: is he doing to actively fight and be good? And

588
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: you know like he he isn't doing those things anymore.

589
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: So it's what is today? What is right now? And

590
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: it's tough. It's hard staying present and it's hard for

591
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: him to be able to you know, see why I'm

592
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: hurt because you know, his his pride and he's like, oh,

593
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: I'm doing I'm not doing anything wrong right now. But

594
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: it's also them right yeah, I mean, it's it's tough

595
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: when our minds will be in two different areas where

596
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: I will be very present because obviously, as a perpetrator,

597
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: you want to move past what you've done to hurt somebody, right,

598
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: So that's what every day I'm trying to just show

599
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: face and do something different. And then when she gets

600
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: into a triggered space or a hurt space, she's basically

601
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: going back in time. You know, it's not right now.

602
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: It's not how she feels right now, it's how those

603
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: feelings back then are affecting her in this moment um.

604
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: So that's been difficult for for both of us and

605
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: for me especially too in those moments to set what

606
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm doing aside right now and go and travel back

607
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: in time with her and to be there for in

608
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: those emotions. And that is why. So I'll say, you said,

609
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: what is different now he is able to be not

610
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: defensive because what didn't work the past two years was

611
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: I would say a feeling, and the majority of the

612
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: time he'd be defensive and he'd get into shame and

613
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: so feelings weren't hurt. I'm like, yeah, but you did

614
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: like these things, and it's like, but he got stuck

615
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: in a shame, so he wasn't able to meet my

616
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: feelings and so that I didn't feel hurt. And then

617
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: once both we're both just talking out of you know,

618
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: right feelings. So what is different now is he's able

619
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: to meet me with my emotions and understand understand that

620
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: he validate my feelings, acknowledge them and we can move

621
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: forward and but also staying in the present. That's incredible.

622
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: So what are you guys doing to have some fun?

623
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: Because there's spent all this pain, Like, what are you

624
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: doing now? You guys are kind of on the other

625
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 1: side of this because you were working so hard, So

626
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: what's what's the fun? Well, we have some things coming

627
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: up soon that I think we'll be fun. Like we're

628
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: taking a family vacation for fourth of July, so that's

629
00:34:52,520 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: going to be fun. We're planning in theory where my

630
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: my best friends getting married next year in Scotland, so

631
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 1: we're going to plan like a European thing and he's

632
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: take me to Paris and um, so we have things

633
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: to look forward to. But and also, you know, for me,

634
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: one of our sort of arguments is I want time

635
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: set aside for date nights, doing two weeks well and

636
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: I think where where we butt heads is He's like,

637
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: why do I have to He's like, I, you know,

638
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: I I'll let you defend yourself on that one before

639
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: I go into it. It's it's not about a fan.

640
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: I want date nights too, It's just I need a

641
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: cracker s Do you finish? Yes? Thank you? Um? For me, like,

642
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: I want date nights just as much as Jana, But

643
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: my fears of not being enough is is this state

644
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: night enough for her? Is it something? Does she want more?

645
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: Does she want less? And also for me, it's like

646
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 1: I am working now, I am working crazy hours, and

647
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: so we have like therapy set aside, and I have

648
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: my stuff and she has her stuff, and it's like

649
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: sometimes for me just having time at the house together,

650
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: like that's enough for me. Like that just like yeah,

651
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: like us. And I'm not saying that's not enough for

652
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 1: me either, though, but there's sometimes where I would like, baby,

653
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: I want to take you out. You know, every two

654
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: weeks doesn't have to be every Friday or every Saturday.

655
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: Can be Wednesday. It could be you love your Wednesdays.

656
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: She's getting divorced, so sorry, honey, you're not gonna get

657
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: no Wednesdays. For me trying, but I just I'm just

658
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 1: saying sometimes setting aside time a thoughtful time. And again

659
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: I love the Netflix Netflix Nights and movie nights, like

660
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: last night was awesome. We watched the Old Time Movie

661
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: and it was fun. But going to the movie is

662
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: that is enough? It is enough. But that's the problem.

663
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 1: Our childhood stuff comes back to us in our adult

664
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: life and he thinks that going to the movies is

665
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: not enough for me. It would be enough. It's going

666
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: to the grove, you know. Sometimes don't even have to

667
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 1: be anywhere, you know, just have an appointment. No, it's

668
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: just there. Again, things happen that valid at your fears. Right,

669
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: so there here we go. This is this is your fault.

670
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: You put me on the mic. Um. So there have

671
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: been times where you know, we have gone to the

672
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: movies and dinner again, which we which I feel like

673
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: any couple that's like to go to write dinner in

674
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: the movie. Um. And so we've done that. And one

675
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: of my favorite things to do is go to the movies. Yeah,

676
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: that is true. I love it. Catch me on Tuesday

677
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: at two o'clock, Mattine, I'm in heaven. Um. But you

678
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: know she's made comments where it's just like, hey, you know,

679
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: I want to do something different, and I'm all, I'm

680
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 1: all for that too. How many times have I that

681
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: I wanted to go to ballet? You know what? I

682
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: tried to do the ballet, but what happened? Yeah, exactly.

683
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: Remember we couldn't because you were sick. Yeah, I know,

684
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying it's maybe one time, let's dress

685
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: up and go somewhere, okay, which brings me to my

686
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: next point. So again, it's all about timing for me.

687
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: So I understand if she wants to say, hey, I

688
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 1: would love to dress up next date night or whatever,

689
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: I'm all for that. Not when we're getting ready to

690
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: go out for a date night, which is that night

691
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: happens to be just dinner in a movie, and as

692
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 1: we're getting ready, she's like, you want to be really great?

693
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: Is if we just went out and dressed up one

694
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: night and stuff like that. So for me, immediately, I'm like,

695
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna say that to me right when we're about

696
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: to go on a date night. So clearly tonight to me,

697
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: that means tonight isn't enough. To me, that means tonight

698
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: isn't what she wants to do so again, it's all

699
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: about timing for me. Communication. It sounds like you guys

700
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: need to communicate on what you want to do on

701
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: date nights. Maybe one can be casual, then the other

702
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: one can be fancy where you go to the ballet

703
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: and you get trusted up. I just want to, like,

704
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: I want the romance back in the marriage. Now, let

705
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: me ask Jenn, let me ask you a question. So

706
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: but I feel like, and again, maybe this is just

707
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: the way I take things that things might be a test.

708
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: And that's like one of my number one pet peeves

709
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: is being tested. So it's like you say, your significant

710
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: other or Janna says to me, hey, you know, let's

711
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: have a date night, and you know you plan it.

712
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: If I say, hey, let's just go to dinner in

713
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 1: a movie, is that is that cool with you? And

714
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 1: she's like yeah, But really it's not because she wants

715
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: a test. She's testing me to see if I'm gonna

716
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: do more, testing me to see if I'm gonna do

717
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: something better, Like did you ever do that to your

718
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: soon to be excellent I didn't because we didn't have

719
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 1: that much communication so and we didn't really spend any

720
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: time together. So I think we just sort of live

721
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: separate lives. And but I think I understand what you're

722
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 1: saying because I do have friends that do that, and

723
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: it's it's unsettling because you feel like then the other

724
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: person is really disappointed, and then then it turns murky.

725
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 1: Then you're out on the date night and you guys

726
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: aren't talking, you're not laughing, No one's having fun because

727
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 1: everybody's in their head the whole time because one person

728
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: didn't really want to do that. The other person thinks

729
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: they don't want to do that, but they're not talking

730
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: about it because nothing was said beforehand going into the day. Look,

731
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: I want to go to the movies with you, I

732
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: want to do dinner with you. I just want a

733
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: little romance back in the marriage. Once a month, that's

734
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: all it is. Once a month. I bring in, like,

735
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,720
Speaker 1: you know, like just be Mr Big once a month

736
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: and just goes. It's not you just want to like

737
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: be the notebook. I'm like, once a month, Yeah, be

738
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: my Ryan Gosling. I think every woman wants to. Oh,

739
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: speaking of Ryan Gosline, your first date night should be

740
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: tajeen On robertson What's Up? Ryan owns it and it

741
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: is the most romantic little Moroccan restaurant. It is so romantic,

742
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: and I want you to say, if you're a bird,

743
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: I think Ryan owns it. I could be wrong, it

744
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: could be a different Ryan Um, but it made me

745
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: think about it. I think you guys should sit down

746
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: and come up with the list of date nights and

747
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: things and activities that you want to do, and then

748
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: you can just choose off the lip. But can a

749
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: girl just have her movie sometime? Yeah? Like I just

750
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: want and I mean not like the AMC movie. I

751
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: mean like I want, like I do every once in

752
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: a while. I want to feel like a freaking princess

753
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: and not feel like just a mom. You need to

754
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: put down what you want the places like the ballet,

755
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: the orchestra, whatever, Hollywood Bowl in Netflix, and then he

756
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: can choose off the list and then you're never disappointed

757
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: because it's everything you've chosen, but you just don't know

758
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: when it's coming. Yeah, okay, but I got a butt

759
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 1: for everything. And I will say Janet does a great

760
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: job at this UM, but I just don't know what

761
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: it is. But thanks. In general, though, again, it shouldn't

762
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: all be on the husband or the mail or the

763
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: boyfriend to come up with date nights like it shouldn't.

764
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: It's a lot of pressure. Yeah, it is a lot

765
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: of pressure. We do a fairly good job at trading

766
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: off date nights. Um. I mean I'm pretty easy because

767
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: if we could say dinner. Yeah, in his date nights

768
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: are the majority, we're going to see whatever. I'm like,

769
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 1: oh great, or the Avengers. That's exactly what I wanted

770
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: to do, babe. Yeah. Like no, I think he sometimes

771
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: honestly gets in fights with me so that he can

772
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: go to the movies by himself. He's like, I'm very bye,

773
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: just because that's my go to that's my sanctuary. Yeah

774
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: all right, Well, but I really appreciate you being on

775
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: the show. I hope you, Um, I hope you are

776
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 1: a guest once again, because we will. We'll talk about

777
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: some more juicy stuff next time with you, and next

778
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: time I'll prepare before I come into the lines. Then

779
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: that's what you need to call. Then there's our new name.

780
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: I love you. You two are so inspiring just because

781
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: you guys are really doing the work. It's really impressive

782
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:43,840
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783
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: I try to love you bab if it's really annoying

784
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: that I love you, I appreciate it. Okay, So Jen,

785
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,200
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786
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829
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Speaker 1: Christa because she's got a very uh intriguing story. I

830
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831
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:36,880
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834
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835
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,200
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836
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Speaker 1: do you want to hear? You moved into that part?

837
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Speaker 1: Oh you're talking about my next thing? Yes? Um. So,

838
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Speaker 1: I went through a pretty not fun worth a while

839
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840
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Speaker 1: back and forth. Oh so you were home sharing. I

843
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,360
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844
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Speaker 1: we did this sharing in the home, so that's how

845
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: we started. Someone in the guest room and then you switch. Yeah,

846
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 1: certain nights you got the mic would be out, get out,

847
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,240
Speaker 1: I try to kick him out of our room, warms

848
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: and that I just didn't go over a while. It

849
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: didn't go well for us either. That's why we started

850
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: the hotel version, which also did not go well. What

851
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: do you have children? Is this why you decided on

852
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: the home sharing? Um, we do. We have four children, okay,

853
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: And they were in the house, so he would come

854
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: stay on his nights, cracked and take care of the kids.

855
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: And then you would go to the hotel and find

856
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: myself like a lonely loser. Oh my god, that must

857
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: have been awful. How much did you drink? It was terrible.

858
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: I didn't even have the energy to drink wine. I

859
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 1: just sat there alone. The rest of my life is

860
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: giving this dark and miserable. But wait a minute, it's

861
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: not though, because you're remarried. Oh no, not great. I'm

862
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 1: just saying how I felt that, right, Okay, now tell

863
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: us about this. So you're remarried, are you guys? You

864
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: guys aren't home sharing. You're not home sharing with the X.

865
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: I remarried someone who wants to be in the same

866
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,959
Speaker 1: house with me, So that's great. Yeah, together every night

867
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: in the same bedroom, in the same bedroom. And then

868
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,959
Speaker 1: when we split, the kids now, so now the kids

869
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: are nesting. And what about the ex wife. I heard

870
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: that you moved into your now husband's house but his

871
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: ex wife was still there. No, that okay. For the

872
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: story is she had moved out well before we started dating,

873
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: but she sort of moved out and she ghosted in

874
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: the middle of the night. She left, um and didn't

875
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: come back. And so my now has been said, hey, um,

876
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: if you want to come back and get your stuff,

877
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: you can come back. Um, I'm gonna leave with the

878
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: kids for four days, just take whatever you want. But

879
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: she was living the life, like in Vegas or something,

880
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: and she didn't come back. So she sent her mom

881
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: here and her mom got a pile of clothes and

882
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: that was it, and I think it dressed her. So

883
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: a couple years later, when I married my now husband

884
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: and I moved into the house, everything was still there

885
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: and my god, all out like we're talking everything like

886
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: you know, makeup and I mean baby albums, all the

887
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: kids are. Really you would think as a mom you

888
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,919
Speaker 1: want to take with you she left behind, So where

889
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: is she now? Down the street? Was married? Wait, she

890
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: lives down the street now pretty much down the street. Okay,

891
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: I have have to know when you moved in? Did

892
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: did all the furniture go? Did the bed go? Did

893
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 1: you get all the stuff? Sure? Mostly? I mean if

894
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: I could kind of like we we have completely different taste.

895
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: She was into pink, some floral and so I feel

896
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: like I kind of made it a little more more,

897
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: you know what. I still if I picked the slip

898
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: covers off, you could have those two chairs. Did she

899
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: come get the baby albums? And stuff? Still doesn't have

900
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,959
Speaker 1: the baby albums? Um? How do you do? You guys

901
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: like get along for the sake of the children? Though?

902
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I just we

903
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: don't talk much. It's fine, it's fine, it's fine on

904
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 1: both sides. My ex husband has a new wife. That's

905
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: what I want to ask you a question about that.

906
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: So you guys share how many kids together you and

907
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: your ex husband? My ex husband I share for let's

908
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: be my new husband and I we have seven, So

909
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 1: I think my husband's um. I think my biggest problem,

910
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: and this has been an issue, is if we were

911
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: to get divorced. My biggest thing is the girl that

912
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: comes into my daughter's life or because I'm like, I

913
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,720
Speaker 1: just I'm like, I don't want them calling my child

914
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: their stepdaughter like she is my daughter. So how are

915
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: you going around that? You know that part you can't

916
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 1: really change. We were lucky. We don't have kids calling

917
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: the other parents. You know what they aren't. You know

918
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: they I'm by my first name because my stepkids, and

919
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: you know, they called my husband my ex husband's wife

920
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: her first name. So that's fine, but I would not

921
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: be surprised if my youngest daughter didn't love me equally

922
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: to her step mom. And that's hard. You know, you

923
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 1: want someone great who they love, but not that much.

924
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: I know, and it's like you want like happy parents

925
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: on each side, but internally that would just kill me.

926
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: It's brutal. I'm like, wait, we've got the same mothers.

927
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: They give up so great? Uh you know like that

928
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, the birthday post went up on Instagram.

929
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,919
Speaker 1: They're identical. That's so great. Uh, you know that that's hard.

930
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: But she's I mean, are you like, could you say

931
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: your friends with her? No? No, I could not. Um,

932
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: I could not say that because her best friend is

933
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: my husband's ex wife. Oh my god, I just that

934
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: just realized what you said. Say it again. Okay, my

935
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: ex husband's wife is best friends with my husband's ex wife,

936
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: and they were not before. This is a new thing

937
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: and now they travel together, they do Thanksgiving together, when

938
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: we don't have a kid, Christmas tas mouth yes. And

939
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: if one more person tells me how great it is

940
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 1: for the kids and I lose this, let's just be honest.

941
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: All So here's here's my thing too. Um, I want

942
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: to know how you go around this. I I'm staying

943
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: with my husband through some difficulties. One of the reasons

944
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: is because I don't want the other girl to get

945
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: the version that I deserved, And then you need to

946
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: stay together. Good as good answer, good answer. But I'm

947
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 1: just saying because I'm like I do believe he can.

948
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: He is changing into the version that he wants to

949
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: be of himself, and I don't want that other girl

950
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: to get what I have fought for and cried for

951
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: and begged for and done all those things. Now, if

952
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: you know, if he keeps continuing to being bad, then

953
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: piece out. Good luck with the other one. But wish

954
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: you the best but is that hard for you to

955
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: maybe see your husband being a better version or is

956
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: he still kind of the same person that he was

957
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: when he was saying to you? Yeah, you know, I

958
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: would say his versions mediocre. My new husband is a

959
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: much better version than he was before, and so that

960
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: then that ex wife is mad. Yeah, I would bet.

961
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,439
Speaker 1: I would bet that's part to see. He changed a lot,

962
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: and I think for the better, of course. But you know,

963
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:20,919
Speaker 1: my ex husband he's pretty much the same. He didn't

964
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: change that much. Yeah, I was never worried about that.

965
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: You were neither. See, that was like one of the

966
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: big word like I don't want home girl. They have

967
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: getten like your good version, like that I want? Right, No,

968
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: I think it happens all the time. I know, and

969
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's not fair. And then I'm home at

970
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: a hotel being you a couple of years ago, Like, right, Bill,

971
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: I have to say that I'm a better version, and

972
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: so that's kind of a good thing. You become a

973
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: better verson too, That is true. It goes both ways.

974
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 1: And I do like hearing stories too about people that

975
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: do become best friends with Like I have a girlfriend

976
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: that is best friends with her husband's ex wife, and

977
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 1: they're great. They have dinner parties together. I try. I

978
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,959
Speaker 1: thought that would have been fun too, and it sounds fun,

979
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 1: but it's it has to be that perfect match. Yeah,

980
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: I think so, And I think you know, we have

981
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,280
Speaker 1: so many kids that it's impossible for us not to parents,

982
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: and sometimes when your parents someone else's kids, that causes

983
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: issues on both sides. What do you think, Mike, would

984
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: it be hard for you to see me with another dude? Well? Yeah, absolutely,

985
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: I mean that's my number one, just like you said

986
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: for me. And the difference here is you're a public figure.

987
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 1: Like no one would post a picture of me with

988
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: my new girlfriend and Jolie on a magazine. I would

989
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: have I would have to see you. I'm like the

990
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: first page of a magazine with your new man with

991
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: like Juliana shoulders, Chris Pratt. Yeah, yeah, all these all

992
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: these thys right now really not helping my case. Like

993
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: she could just go have anybody and she stuck with Rod,

994
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 1: not my thing. Yeah, So, I mean that's definitely difficult,

995
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: and I can't even imagine with you know, as multiple

996
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: kids as you guys have and share and kind of

997
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: the natural ancestral relationship that there is there. We're just

998
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: overlapping of parenting. And but I think the fact that

999
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: you guys are putting the kids first and you're, you know,

1000
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: doing the best y'all can do, you know for them,

1001
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: I think is great. No, it is great, And the

1002
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 1: kids are great together, so that that makes it easier

1003
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: on both sides. The kids get along well. I love that. Well,

1004
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 1: thank you Christopher sharing your awesome story. And I'm glad

1005
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 1: you're happy second time around hey and in a house

1006
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: not in a tell room. Yeah, thank you so much, girl.

1007
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: I am overwhelmed by the love that you guys have

1008
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: given um the show, So thank you so much. And

1009
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: I appreciate all the emails. If you have an emailed us,

1010
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,919
Speaker 1: please do. It's Janne Kramer at i heeart media dot com.

1011
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: And I want to share two emails right now. We

1012
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,280
Speaker 1: got and again there were so many, and I promise

1013
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna address as many emails as I possibly can. Um,

1014
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: but Mark take it away, well, let me I can

1015
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: shorten a couple of these too, Like Jessica, almost to

1016
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: know how you feel about playing music during sex. My

1017
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: husband thinks it's weird. Um, you know what that it's

1018
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: seven o'clock the death, if it's that song browing It Okay,

1019
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: Let's get smooth too. Is Janet Kramer one album? No,

1020
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: I mean honestly, for me, it doesn't matter. I do know.

1021
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: I will say when we do have sex, though, we

1022
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: make sure that like Puppy Dog Pals isn't on or

1023
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: something right, you know what I mean, Like, if there's

1024
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: something that's going to distract the mood, we turn off.

1025
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: But if it's you know, I'm fine with music. Okay, Melissa,

1026
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: I'm going through infidelity having such a hard time. If

1027
00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: you can talk about how you're moving forward and how

1028
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: to it passed it, I could really use advice from

1029
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: someone going through the same thing. Love you, Melissa. First off,

1030
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: it is it is a tough, tough thing, and I think, honestly,

1031
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: I would like for infidelity to be an episode on

1032
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: its own, um so because because it's it's it's longer

1033
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: than just a two minute response. But I will say

1034
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: in this moment, right now to you. I will address

1035
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: it on a further future podcast show, But for right now,

1036
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: my advice is stay in the present. If you guys

1037
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: are both willing to work on it, and there are

1038
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: boundaries in place for both of you and staying present.

1039
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: It's so hard. It's like I can just go on

1040
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: for like the whole thing. We'll do in two weeks

1041
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: episode four. We will talk about infidelity, but right now,

1042
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 1: just stay present and if he is willing, if you

1043
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: are willing to work on it, it can work. Did

1044
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: she say who was? She did not act who the

1045
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: infidelity was going through it. There's a common assumption right there.

1046
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: I'm just saying both to work. I didn't say whoever

1047
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: the perpetrator was. Whoever the perpetrators needs boundaries. I'll bring

1048
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: you on episode for and we'll talk about it. We will. Okay, great,

1049
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,959
Speaker 1: bring it on. Alicia is a nurse and she wants

1050
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: with your thoughts on screen time for the kids. Do

1051
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: you limit Julie's screen time? We do limit her screen time.

1052
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: Um some look, some days might be longer. Some days

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Speaker 1: we'll watch a movie. If it's a Sunday and I'm tired,

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Speaker 1: my husband and I are tired and we just want

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Speaker 1: to watch a movie. We're going to watch a movie

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Speaker 1: and it's not gonna up. But a doctor only said

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Speaker 1: an hour a day. But I'm not going to sit

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Speaker 1: in front of the TV. The entire day, so we

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Speaker 1: do limited that we don't let her have her iPad

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Speaker 1: unless we're traveling or at a restaurant and want to

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Speaker 1: have an adult conversation. Okay, Brittany mentions how you mentioned

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Speaker 1: how incompetent their partners can be when bearing the mental

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Speaker 1: loade of their households. We covered this earlier, but her

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Speaker 1: question is if you could go back and established different boundaries,

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Speaker 1: would you do so, and how would you handle it differently?

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Speaker 1: If I could go back and establish different boundaries, I

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Speaker 1: would say, Hey, Mike, Jolie needs a dentist appointment coming up.

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Speaker 1: Can you please make that appointment? So not just putting

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Speaker 1: it all on me, and I think delegating Again, it's

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Speaker 1: very hard because I I'll just do it my way.

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Speaker 1: But if I can delegate, my husband is very willing

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Speaker 1: to reciprocate. So it's hard. But I think the first

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Speaker 1: step is trying to ask for help. Ask for help.

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Speaker 1: It's hard though, but yeah, it is. But also again,

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Speaker 1: people have different timelines, so give a a date for

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Speaker 1: them the next two weeks. Be specific about what you're

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Speaker 1: asking because the whoever you're asking, whether you're if you're

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Speaker 1: asking your spouse, their timeline might be different, but if

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Speaker 1: you have a sense of urgency about it, then you

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Speaker 1: have to articulate that to them. Okay, then are you

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Speaker 1: still stress eating because it's Shane is too tired for

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Speaker 1: sex with her husband. She knows he's frustrated, and she

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Speaker 1: wants to know if you have any thoughts for that.

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Speaker 1: The end of the day, her sex drive is gone. Look,

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Speaker 1: I get it being a mom if even if you're

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Speaker 1: not a mom, the end of the day, if you're

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Speaker 1: working and you're tired and you or you just don't

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Speaker 1: want to have sex, I get that. But at the

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Speaker 1: same time, we all have needs, so you need to

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Speaker 1: meet your partner's needs at the end of the day.

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Speaker 1: I mean if it's been a couple of weeks or

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Speaker 1: a mom Like for me personally, I think we need

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Speaker 1: to meet our partner's needs them with a couple of

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Speaker 1: light ones. Savannah, where do you shop for swimsuits? I

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Speaker 1: try to avoid it all costs, but yes, Target, do

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Speaker 1: you have any favorite perfumes you could recommend Savannah as well?

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Speaker 1: And finally, just a nice note here from Ryan from

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Speaker 1: a small town in New York. I just wanted you

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Speaker 1: to know that I'm such a big fan and have

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Speaker 1: been since. I originally hated your character on One Tree Hill,

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Speaker 1: but then Alex grew on me. You crushed it on

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Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars and I still think you should

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Speaker 1: have won. Your music is wonderful. It's probably not typical

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Speaker 1: for a guy. Ryan is a guy, a guy that

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Speaker 1: is twenty one almost twenty two to be a big

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Speaker 1: out of your work, but I am. I just wanted

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Speaker 1: to let you know how awesome you are and that

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Speaker 1: will always be a fan. Isn't that nice? That is

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Speaker 1: so sweet. I love that a dude's listening to so

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Speaker 1: thank you. I appreciate Watch it, buddy. I just want

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Speaker 1: to thank my guest we had, Nikki Krista, my lovely husband.

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Speaker 1: Of course, producer Jen is amazing sitting in with us

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Speaker 1: and UM. If you guys have any questions or any

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Speaker 1: topics you want to talk about, go to Jane Kramer

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Speaker 1: at iHeartMedia dot com. UM. Also, thank you, Hello Fresh

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Speaker 1: and Lola. You guys are awesome and I'm excited to

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Speaker 1: wind down again with you next week.