Speaker 1: Welcome to the best of the week for What's Right
Speaker 1: with Nick Right the best takes and moments from this
Speaker 1: week on the show. Enjoy where I am, though Demons
Speaker 1: is fully relaxed and comfortable and relieved about the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Let's get right to the game of the weekend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we all saw what happened on Sunday. Your
Speaker 2: Chiefs crushed my Ravens. We were obviously riddled with injuries.
Speaker 2: Our quarterback went down very early into the third quarter.
Speaker 2: But she said after starting and two, that is not
Speaker 2: hold on.
Speaker 1: Your quarterback did not go down early in the third.
Speaker 1: He went down at the end of the third quarter
Speaker 1: when when he tapped out when they were down seventeen.
Speaker 2: But go ahead, all right, you said your Chiefs had
Speaker 2: the chance to rewrite history after starting oh and two
Speaker 2: after this game, do you think they did so well?
Speaker 1: Listen, they studied themselves and the ow and to start,
Speaker 1: what they had to do was beat the Giants. That
Speaker 1: was an ugly game that obviously turned on the tackle
Speaker 1: that turned the tide. And then they had to go
Speaker 1: take care of business against the Ravens. And take care
Speaker 1: of business they did, and not shockingly, the moment the
Speaker 1: Chiefs had close to a competent receiving corps. The offense
Speaker 1: looked good again the last And we don't have to
Speaker 1: do this full history in depth, but it is worth
Speaker 1: mentioning that the Chiefs traded away Tyreek Hill mahomes snap
Speaker 1: in an offseason changed the way he played based on
Speaker 1: the receivers. They had one league MVP. The very next year,
Speaker 1: dealt with more drops than any quarterback literally in modern
Speaker 1: NFL history, figured it out by the playoffs, won the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. The next year, dealt with the most injured
Speaker 1: wide receiver and running back room in the NFL, got
Speaker 1: all the way to the Super Bowl. And the next year,
Speaker 1: which was this year, walked into the season with his
Speaker 1: number one receiver suspended for six games and his number
Speaker 1: two receiver knocked out of Game one three plays in,
Speaker 1: And it looked shaky for a bit. And I told
Speaker 1: you guys that I knew real like I guess insight,
Speaker 1: that that Chargers Week one game plan, Xavier Worthy was
Speaker 1: the ePIE center of it, and him being knocked out
Speaker 1: three plays in threw everything off. But this the fatalism
Speaker 1: surrounding the Chiefs from almost everyone else in the media
Speaker 1: was and I don't want to be a scold, and
Speaker 1: I don't want to be more knowing than I naturally am.
Speaker 1: But it was embarrassing, and it was so fickle and
Speaker 1: so myopic, my opic, pardon me, as if they don't
Speaker 1: have a Hall of Fame head coach, a Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame caliber decoordinator, and the most talented quarterback to ever live,
Speaker 1: that they couldn't figure it out and it was as
Speaker 1: if they were getting boat raced in these early games,
Speaker 1: or as if they were playing terrible teams and losing.
Speaker 1: Neither were true. Now, I want to make this clear.
Speaker 1: I don't think the Chiefs are, you know, quote fully back.
Speaker 1: If back means being the highest scoring team in the league,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's who they're going to be. I
Speaker 1: don't think the Chiefs have solved all their issues. I
Speaker 1: still think the running back room leaves a lot to
Speaker 1: be desired, and their ability to get pressure on the
Speaker 1: opposing quarterback without sending a blitz at the moment leaves
Speaker 1: a lot to be desired. But you look, if you
Speaker 1: going into the Baltimore game, if you looked around the AFC,
Speaker 1: the only team that really you could say had no
Speaker 1: holes to poke at it was the Chargers going into
Speaker 1: Week four, but they already were dealing with some potentially
Speaker 1: mounting injuries that sadly, they dealt with more of during
Speaker 1: Week four in a game they had no business losing
Speaker 1: but lost, And so the Bills were undefeated. But the
Speaker 1: Bills defense had looked shaky, and they they had and
Speaker 1: have played three consecutive games against just bottom feeders. The
Speaker 1: Ravens were even this huge benefit of the doubt despite
Speaker 1: having the same record as the Chiefs, and then every
Speaker 1: other team that had a good record, like the Steelers
Speaker 1: or the Jags, you had real reason to be concerned about.
Speaker 2: And so who's first? I mean, I don't know if
Speaker 2: this matters who's first slay the games? Who do you
Speaker 2: think has had the tougher schedule through the first four
Speaker 2: weeks between the Ravens and the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: I think it's been almost identical. Okay, So like they
Speaker 1: played each other. So if we want to call that,
Speaker 1: like I so call the Chiefs Ravens game, you know,
Speaker 1: a wash so to speak. The Ravens played the Browns.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs played the Giants, which is the I think
Speaker 1: the Giants are better than the Browns, but the Browns
Speaker 1: have a better defense, you know what I mean. Call
Speaker 1: that a wash. And then the Ravens played the Bills,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs played the Eagles. The Ravens player, I guess
Speaker 1: we could do Bills, Chargers, Eagles, Lions, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like, I think the Bills are a little
Speaker 1: better than the Chargers, but I think the Eagles are
Speaker 1: a little better than the Lions. So to me, it's
Speaker 1: very very similar. Like as far as what the opening
Speaker 1: slate was, now, you could argue the Chief Ravens game
Speaker 1: being in Kansas City, like the Ravens having to go
Speaker 1: on the road for that tilts it. But the other
Speaker 1: piece of it that was maddening to me and has
Speaker 1: been even more maddening in the after There have been
Speaker 1: two things that have happened in the aftermath of this
Speaker 1: game that really drive me crazy. And I had kind
Speaker 1: of a rough moment near the end of yesterday's show
Speaker 1: on TV with Wilds yesterday. I'll apologize to him when
Speaker 1: I see him today. It's not really the tone of
Speaker 1: our show, but I got angry when I shouldn't have
Speaker 1: the And I mean I don't think he took it
Speaker 1: like terribly, Like I think he might be surprised when
Speaker 1: I apologize to him, but maybe not. But it Two
Speaker 1: things have happened that to me are so frustrating. The
Speaker 1: first one is I understand the Ravens during the game
Speaker 1: lost Rokwan Smith and late in the game lost Humphrey
Speaker 1: and once the game was over over over lost Nate Wiggins.
Speaker 1: But they went into the game missing four starters. Everyone
Speaker 1: and the defense already had been bad all year. Everyone
Speaker 1: knew that and picked them. That's fine, by the way,
Speaker 1: like you can pick whoever you want. And I'm not
Speaker 1: acting like that game was a lot for the the
Speaker 1: way it played out, the Chiefs had full control, but
Speaker 1: you know, something goes differently. Maybe not, but to know
Speaker 1: the team has those injuries going in and then afterwards
Speaker 1: be like, wow, of course Kansas City did that. Look
Speaker 1: at all the injuries on defense. It's just bullshit. It's
Speaker 1: the if your handicap going into the game was I
Speaker 1: think the Races at full strength or better, but they're
Speaker 1: not full strength. Therefore I think the Chiefs will win.
Speaker 1: And then you see that game be like, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what I thought, so be it. But that wasn't anyone's handicap.
Speaker 1: The handicap was even with the Ravens defensive injuries, the
Speaker 1: Chiefs offense, with Patrick freaking Mahomes on it and Andy
Speaker 1: Reid calling the plays, is so broken that they're not
Speaker 1: going to be able to move the ball. I mean
Speaker 1: Vegas had as underdogs as well. Correct, Yeah, like which
Speaker 1: it's so again two and a half pour underdogs at
Speaker 1: home to a one and two team that the two
Speaker 1: competent offenses that they had played moved the ball at
Speaker 1: will and so to then Monday morning quarterback be like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: obviously this was gonna happen. That's not what you believed.
Speaker 1: That wasn't people's picks. That wasn't people's opinion. The conversation
Speaker 1: going into the game was who needed it more? Kansas City?
Speaker 1: Who do you trust more? Baltimore Good I watched Orlowski?
Speaker 1: Do the Ravens are built to beat the Chiefs? What
Speaker 1: it's like? No, they're built to beat the Chiefs and
Speaker 1: the Bengals. They're just they they're not built to beat
Speaker 1: the I think you said the Chargers in the line
Speaker 1: something I don't know I it was. And the other
Speaker 1: piece of it was, and this is my other level
Speaker 1: of frustration because while Ronnie Stanley did go out during
Speaker 1: this game. The Ravens offense is healthy, and it was that, well,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs aren't gonna be able to slow down a
Speaker 1: Ravens offense that no one's been able to slow down.
Speaker 1: They score thirty plus in every game, and that, of
Speaker 1: course is not what happened. And so that frustrated me.
Speaker 1: And the other thing that frustrated me, I had nothing
Speaker 1: to do with Brewer Wilds, but it had to do
Speaker 1: with me listening to Simmons Pod as I do every
Speaker 1: Monday morning, listening to Greg Rosenthal's NFL Daily Pod, as
Speaker 1: I do every day, listening to you know a lot
Speaker 1: of them, and watching the Monday morning shows and all
Speaker 1: of it. And I was like, I could not believe
Speaker 1: that I was going to once again have to be,
Speaker 1: I guess, the bad guy in pointing out the obvious
Speaker 1: fact that this game turned on a totally predictable, yet inexplicable,
Speaker 1: horrific Lamar pick and then we're up seven to three
Speaker 1: with the ball on first down around midfield and Lamar
Speaker 1: pedaled backwards and then threw up a prayer for no
Speaker 1: reason whatsoever. A guy who has he and again people
Speaker 1: can be mad at me, but here are the facts
Speaker 1: of it. And every year people get mad at me,
Speaker 1: and then every year we get another piece of evidence
Speaker 1: that I'm stone right about this, and then every year
Speaker 1: I have to listen to folks stick their fingers in
Speaker 1: the ears and be like, nope, actually wrong. Lamar's the
Speaker 1: greatest passer of the football we've ever seen, is Iyer's
Speaker 1: passer rating. Ever, never turns the ball over and all
Speaker 1: the big game, playoffs, games against the Chief stuff is
Speaker 1: just dumb random luck. In the last thirty games Lamar
Speaker 1: is played, he has multiple turnovers in three of them,
Speaker 1: the AFC Championship game against Kansas City, the Divisional round
Speaker 1: against Buffalo, and Sunday against Kansas City. I guess that's
Speaker 1: a coincidence. In the last thirty games Lamar has played,
Speaker 1: he has thrown seven interceptions, which is remarkable that he's
Speaker 1: only thrown seven. He had like a fifty to four
Speaker 1: touchdown interception ratio. You know, in this stretch he moved
Speaker 1: the playoffs. It was crazy. The interceptions are as follows.
Speaker 1: Four regular season interceptions prior to Sunday, three of which
Speaker 1: we played the video hit his receiver in the hands
Speaker 1: and then either got like bobbled or stolen, one of
Speaker 1: which Bateman just stopped running his route, but four passes
Speaker 1: that did not need to be picked, the only three
Speaker 1: in the last thirty games, the only three interceptions Lamar
Speaker 1: has thrown where it's like, what the hell was that
Speaker 1: AFC Championship game into triple coverage in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: against Kansas City Divisional round game, early against both against
Speaker 1: Buffalo and the one Sunday. He also in those three
Speaker 1: games had inexplicable fumbles out of nowhere. To pretend like
Speaker 1: that is coincidental when we once again saw Lamar throwing
Speaker 1: his helmet out of sorts, it's just dishonest. And I
Speaker 1: know Bill Pollion was mean in his commentary towards the
Speaker 1: guy eight years ago, and I know some of the
Speaker 1: world first actors in media, sports or otherwise tried to
Speaker 1: pigeonhole him as a wide receiver in a pretty nakedly
Speaker 1: at times racist way. I get that, and I understand
Speaker 1: because of that there has been a almost protectionism and
Speaker 1: a want for folks to see him succeed at the
Speaker 1: highest level. I don't disagree with that, but why do
Speaker 1: we have to pretend what is obviously true is not
Speaker 1: Why do we have to pretend that this is a
Speaker 1: unique thing we haven't seen across sports Our whole lives
Speaker 1: the all time great, legendary player who sadly gets tight
Speaker 1: in his biggest spots and plays his worst in his
Speaker 1: biggest moments. That's part of sports man. And nobody was
Speaker 1: going back and taking away Peyton Manning's MVPs and his
Speaker 1: records because he struggled massively in the biggest spons But
Speaker 1: we weren't pretending it was coincidental either, talking about the
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning face, talked about how he got anxious, talked
Speaker 1: about how his brother was like the bizarro version of him,
Speaker 1: a holy mediocre player for giant expanses of his career
Speaker 1: who somehow, in the biggest sponts played his absolute best,
Speaker 1: And for some reason with Lamar, we got to pretend
Speaker 1: it's not happening. I gotta and listen. I don't know
Speaker 1: this guy, but I think he does good work. I
Speaker 1: think he's a smart commentator. But I Deontay Lee at
Speaker 1: the Ringer. I before the Lamar fumble, I tweeted Lamar's
Speaker 1: basically gone two years without making that this was on
Speaker 1: the pick, without making that exact type of mistake except
Speaker 1: for in the twenty three AFC Championship game, of the
Speaker 1: twenty four Divisional round and just now against Kansas City
Speaker 1: probably a coincidence, and Deontay Lee quote tweets it right.
Speaker 1: Nobody can identify the intrinsic traits of a winner and
Speaker 1: loser like Nick Wright. He is the seer. It's like, no, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to tell you. I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: act like I look in at guy's eyes and can
Speaker 1: determine whether he has the IT factor. I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to act like I've watched this guy's whole fucking career,
Speaker 1: and from day one, he has been a guy who,
Speaker 1: in the postseason or in these instances now when he
Speaker 1: sees Patrick across the field, plays his worst football. And
Speaker 1: we can act like it's a small sample. But he's
Speaker 1: played the Chiefs seven times, He's played i think ten
Speaker 1: playoff games, like it's not a small sample. And my
Speaker 1: frustration is and again, so this is the other thing, Demonse,
Speaker 1: and this well, I'll say before we keep it moving,
Speaker 1: and maybe Demondse, you'll tell me this is unfair. I
Speaker 1: don't think if I'm a Ravens fan, I don't think.
Speaker 1: The thing that I came out of that game most
Speaker 1: disheartened about was the defense. And the reason for that
Speaker 1: is obviously, if the defense is this bad, they are
Speaker 1: drawing you know what I mean, They can't have the
Speaker 1: worst defense in football. But what to me was so
Speaker 1: disheartening about it if you're a Ravens fan, is you're
Speaker 1: now gonna have in the back of your head, even
Speaker 1: if we get the defense fixed by when we get
Speaker 1: to these moments against Josh or Patrick, are we getting
Speaker 1: MVP Lamar Or are we getting throwing his head back,
Speaker 1: slamming the helmet, taking terrible sacks, throwing off his back
Speaker 1: foot Lamar I That to me is the concern. Today's
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Speaker 1: or Virginia. I did not think we would be starting
Speaker 1: with the Browns third string quarterback. However, because of the
Speaker 1: last twenty four hours and because this show loves itself
Speaker 1: some meta media discussion, we are going to start with
Speaker 1: the Browns third string quarterback. Go right ahead, pal.
Speaker 2: No, I'm kidding.
Speaker 1: Jack stricked me. Hold on, I was about a say, hey,
Speaker 1: Demanzi's Mike's not working. I just want I went to
Speaker 1: see if my headset got disconnected. That was really good
Speaker 1: mouthing of the words. You totally tricked me. All right,
Speaker 1: good job there. I mean, that's for watching watching on YouTube.
Speaker 1: You got the bit. If you're the if you're listening
Speaker 1: to us on podcasts, it doesn't really play. But good job,
Speaker 1: all right, go ahead.
Speaker 2: So Joe Flacco has been benched and Dylan Gabriel is
Speaker 2: the new quarterback. One and a shadeur responded to that
Speaker 2: news and oppressor and maybe Rex Ryan with a little
Speaker 2: bit of meme or mimi action thoughts on this.
Speaker 1: Okay, So let me let me give the audience the
Speaker 1: very short history of this. Okay. A week ago, Shador
Speaker 1: gave a somewhat innocuous but probably poorly worded comment when
Speaker 1: he said, you know, I'm paraphrasing, but I think this
Speaker 1: is going to be to an exact quote. You know,
Speaker 1: I watched the league and I'm better than some of
Speaker 1: those guys out there starting. I didn't think it was
Speaker 1: a huge deal. I think it. I think that one
Speaker 1: of the reasons demonse that I thought that comment was
Speaker 1: uh likely to not go great for him was because
Speaker 1: one could argue these starting quarterback in the league playing
Speaker 1: the worst was his own, you know what. I so
Speaker 1: if he had if he was third string for the
Speaker 1: Bills and said, you know, I watched the league, and
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like I'm better than some of
Speaker 1: the guys starting, I think the exact quote was, if
Speaker 1: you see the quarterback play in the league, right now
Speaker 1: I know I'm capable of doing better than that. Then
Speaker 1: I think it's less of a problem. When a lot
Speaker 1: of people felt like and feel like the Brown starting
Speaker 1: quarterback was playing the worst of everyone in the league,
Speaker 1: it could have been construed as an unintentional shot at Flacco.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was that at all, but it
Speaker 1: was just a little trickier of a spot. Does that
Speaker 1: part make sense what I'm describing there? Yeah? Okay. Then
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan goes on TV and makes a fool of himself. Yea,
Speaker 1: Like every time I see Rex Ryan, he's just talking
Speaker 1: about how much someone sucks. It's like the whole bit.
Speaker 1: It's that Russell Wilson can't play dead in the Western
Speaker 1: it's his career's.
Speaker 2: Over people like they're the reason, you know, every problem
Speaker 2: in his life that he has.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I don't personally like that his style. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna be transparent on this. I don't know Rex personally,
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't want please awful announcing. Don't make
Speaker 1: this a nick right offict rates. I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: do that. I'm just being honest. I think Rex like
Speaker 1: goes on TV, it's like this guy sucks, this coordinator
Speaker 1: is an idiot. I do a better job with that
Speaker 1: bang I'm out here, and so I just don't love that.
Speaker 1: Let me put it like he would it just it.
Speaker 1: He would not fit on first things first, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But I mean the different styles are
Speaker 1: different folks, and I wouldn't fit on other shows whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm really trying to be kind here, but be honest
Speaker 1: with my opinion pretty clearly. Oh and one of the
Speaker 1: things he said, he said two things that really struck
Speaker 1: me with the Shardor commentary. One was he basically reported
Speaker 1: that Shadoor is not doing the work. He was like,
Speaker 1: get in there and study. If I know this, the
Speaker 1: whole league knows this. It's like wow, like Rex Ryan
Speaker 1: elbowing Schefter off the breaking news beat, Like I hadn't.
Speaker 1: I had not seen that reported anywhere that Shador has
Speaker 1: been lazy or not paying attention to meetings. That would
Speaker 1: be news. But the other thing he said was, you know,
Speaker 1: shut up and dribble. Not quite shut up and dribble,
Speaker 1: but shut your mouth. So Shadoor yesterday was asked about
Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel being named the starter and about how he
Speaker 1: was not elevated to second string because that's the other
Speaker 1: piece of news here. It didn't go flat. Typically if
Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback, not always, but I shouldn't even say typically.
Speaker 1: Sometimes when a veteran quarterback is benched, he then goes
Speaker 1: to the bottom of the depth chart. He wasn't a veteran.
Speaker 1: But last year when Bryce Young got benched for Andy Dalton,
Speaker 1: that that first game, Bryce wasn't the backup, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like it was he went all the
Speaker 1: way down the ladder. And then so there was an
Speaker 1: opportunity that was going to be Gabriel one, Schador two,
Speaker 1: Flaco three that ended up not happening, just Gabriel and
Speaker 1: Flacco flips your door stayed three. He was asked about
Speaker 1: all of this, and he smiled and in my opinion,
Speaker 1: looked like he always does, which is charming, and seemingly
Speaker 1: talked without talking, moved his mouth and I actually wonder
Speaker 1: if a professional, I wonder if he was giving real answers,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, yeah, I mean he
Speaker 1: was clearly he wasn't like, you know, just speaking gibberish.
Speaker 1: I now, I don't know if the sentences were you know,
Speaker 1: a inaudible. I was told, you know, on TV. They
Speaker 1: told me not to talk, so this is me not
Speaker 1: talking or I don't know if it was an inaudible.
Speaker 1: I'm happy for Dylan to be getting this opportunity. I'm
Speaker 1: still working hard. But he was clearly saying sentences, but
Speaker 1: they were dead silent. And the reason I wanted to
Speaker 1: start the show with it is because this is just
Speaker 1: a perfect, just perfect moment for today's media and social media.
Speaker 1: Because if you want, which I don't want to do,
Speaker 1: to kill Shador, it's an example of just want and immaturity.
Speaker 1: I don't want to kill Shador. And if you want
Speaker 1: to blindly support shaudor the criticism he gets from this
Speaker 1: will be an example the kid can't win. He talks
Speaker 1: and he gets yelled at. He literally doesn't talk, and
Speaker 1: you kill him anyway. I don't want to do that either,
Speaker 1: because I'm not an idiot. What everyone, every adult has
Speaker 1: a responsibility to set down for a moment, their priors
Speaker 1: and to ask themselves this honest question. If Shadoor was
Speaker 1: your best friend, if he were your I don't want
Speaker 1: to say son because Prime has I think, not helped
Speaker 1: him on this, and I'll get to that in a second.
Speaker 1: And if he were your godson or your nephew, or
Speaker 1: you were his high school guidance counselor who he stayed
Speaker 1: in touch with. And he called you up and was like, hey,
Speaker 1: do you see what Rex Ryan said about me? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I saw, And you saw that Gabriel's the starter now right, Yeah?
Speaker 1: I saw. So when they asked me about it, listen
Speaker 1: to what my plan is. I'm going to answer their
Speaker 1: questions silently. What you're gonna like, write it down? No,
Speaker 1: I'm going to stand in front of the cameras and
Speaker 1: act like I'm talking, but not make any sounds. How
Speaker 1: awesome does that? How awesome of an idea is that
Speaker 1: all of us would say, don't fucking do that. Man,
Speaker 1: it's a bad idea, fair or not bad idea? Why
Speaker 1: they He's told me I shouldn't talk, buddy, Here's all
Speaker 1: you got to say. You're asked about Dylan. Really happy
Speaker 1: for Dylan. You know he and I obviously same draft class.
Speaker 1: We've been working together this whole time. Joe's been great
Speaker 1: to all of us. You know, it's coach's choice to
Speaker 1: make a change, and you know I'm Dylan works hard,
Speaker 1: He's a really good player. I'm excited you know I'm
Speaker 1: excited to watch him. Well, are you upset? You know
Speaker 1: you didn't get bumped up to second straying? You know,
Speaker 1: do you listen? I I believe in myself. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie to you guys act like I don't. I
Speaker 1: believe that I will one day be a starting quarterback
Speaker 1: in this league. But my job right now is to
Speaker 1: keep doing what you know, what I've been doing, studying,
Speaker 1: working hard, being a good teammate, and hopefully, you know,
Speaker 1: we can get back on the winning track this weekend.
Speaker 1: That's all you have to do. Everything else is foolishness.
Speaker 1: And anyone acting like acknowledging that him doing a bit
Speaker 1: in the locker room in front of the media as
Speaker 1: the third string quarterback is good for him or smart
Speaker 1: or productive is a liar.
Speaker 2: It's also not the third string quarterback. Apparently, what do
Speaker 2: you mean what? It was Joe and then it was Dylan,
Speaker 2: and then they moved him down below Joe again, like.
Speaker 1: That he is still third string? Like no, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: he's yeah, he stayed third He didn't know they listen,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know how he's looked at practice
Speaker 1: at this point. I don't know how he is in
Speaker 1: film study. I know that he played one preseason game
Speaker 1: looked awesome, played another preseason game looked bad. I like
Speaker 1: all of these. So I don't know if in that
Speaker 1: building there are different camps, like Stefanski is deeply invested
Speaker 1: in Gabriel, but the owner wanted Shador. And so I
Speaker 1: don't know any of that. I don't None of that
Speaker 1: is relevant to this piece of it. Just control what
Speaker 1: you can control. Bro. You are not right now getting
Speaker 1: the opportunity to show what you can do on the
Speaker 1: field publicly, So all you can do is show that
Speaker 1: you can be a true professional privately or you know,
Speaker 1: in your role as backup quarterback. And this is what
Speaker 1: And I did Cam Newton's show a couple days ago,
Speaker 1: and Cam has real, excuse me, sympathy for Shador, and
Speaker 1: Cam feels like a lot of what he det like that.
Speaker 1: You know, Cam had a real hard time when he
Speaker 1: had to be a backup and Cam felt his celebrity
Speaker 1: and aura worked against him at those things. And I
Speaker 1: said this to Cam, and I'll expand on it here.
Speaker 1: One is, while I respect the I respect folks who
Speaker 1: believe Shador does have starting caliber talent and traits and
Speaker 1: will be a good NFL quarterback. I'm not the A
Speaker 1: lot of people I respect have that opinion and fair
Speaker 1: no problem Cam was talking about him as if Cam
Speaker 1: and Shadoor were at all similar prospects. They weren't. Man
Speaker 1: like Shadoor is whether he should have been or not.
Speaker 1: He's a fifth round pick. And the other piece of
Speaker 1: it that I really wish somebody close to Shador would
Speaker 1: really explain to him, as this man you have, maybe
Speaker 1: it shouldn't be this way, but it is. You have
Speaker 1: one of the only jobs left in modern America where
Speaker 1: celebrity works against you. In almost every other job, I
Speaker 1: don't care what it is. If it's like, hey, I
Speaker 1: can do the job well. Also, oddly, I'm very famous
Speaker 1: on TikTok. That doesn't hurt you, It usually helps you.
Speaker 1: The only job where your bosses want you to be
Speaker 1: as anonymous as possible is back up NFL quarterback. And
Speaker 1: now maybe the the organizations are too stodgy. Maybe that's
Speaker 1: stuck it, you know, maybe that'll change. It ain't changing
Speaker 1: this month. And I do think we have seen over
Speaker 1: the course of these few months some of the reason
Speaker 1: that once teams and this was the seminal moment. Once
Speaker 1: he was not greted as franchise quarterback coming out of
Speaker 1: the draft top ten, top fifteen pick, and he was
Speaker 1: greated as backup who could one day compete to be
Speaker 1: a starter. That his job description changed massively, and he
Speaker 1: is still carrying himself as if it hadn't. And I
Speaker 1: am not asking for the kid to be humbled. I
Speaker 1: hate that commentary. I'm not asking for him to change
Speaker 1: who he is at a personal level. I am asking
Speaker 1: for him to recognize that this ship works against him
Speaker 1: and his dad, who everybody loves, myself included instagramming in
Speaker 1: response to this video, all these laughing emojis and writing
Speaker 1: good one son, you did that is not helpful. Go
Speaker 1: to Monte. Go ahead, I can tell you I want
Speaker 1: to see.
Speaker 2: No. I didn't know that. I didn't know that happened.
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, you were a
Speaker 2: one step like I guess he was still third on
Speaker 2: the death chart, but Joe Flapp was getting pinched. You
Speaker 2: were a step closer in the direction that you wanted
Speaker 2: to be added. So there it was unnecessary.
Speaker 1: And this is what's frustrating to me, And this is
Speaker 1: why I wanted to leave the show with it because
Speaker 1: it is a my favorite topic. Are when sports a
Speaker 1: sports discussion is a microcosm for a bigger, worldwide, you know,
Speaker 1: holistic discussion. There are going to be so many disingenuous
Speaker 1: fools that today try to act like see, damned if
Speaker 1: you do, damned if you don't, you tell him to
Speaker 1: shut up, and then when he literally does, you criticize
Speaker 1: him for that too, as if we we can't hold
Speaker 1: multiple thoughts in our head at the same time, and
Speaker 1: as if we're not all functioning adults that recognize this
Speaker 1: was he was running a bit. He is doing forty
Speaker 1: five seconds to stand up in the locker room as
Speaker 1: the third string quarterback when all you've got to do
Speaker 1: is not not do a single thing. That is going
Speaker 1: to add to the questions the media is going to
Speaker 1: ask Stefanski and then by your time, bro, because Gabriel
Speaker 1: is not going to start the last thirteen games. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's good enough. Listen, if they are going
Speaker 1: to give Gabriel a real opportunity, there's no question about that,
Speaker 1: and Gabriel, you know they have a real investment in him.
Speaker 1: I just don't think Gabriel's good enough to run the
Speaker 1: table the rest of the way, so he should get
Speaker 1: a shot. He just has to be ready for it.
Speaker 1: I just I really think he is getting And people
Speaker 1: thought that this was patronizing when I said he's getting
Speaker 1: bad advice. They're like, he's a twenty three year old
Speaker 1: grown man. Shut up. Monse's twenty seven. I give Demanse
Speaker 1: professional advice all the time. I'm forty. I call my
Speaker 1: dad for advice on Like the idea that because right
Speaker 1: he's almost old enough to rent a car without paying
Speaker 1: the extra fee, he's beyond advice is just idiotic, Like, yes,
Speaker 1: he's allowed now at twenty three, he's his own man.
Speaker 1: He can make his own decisions. He can take the
Speaker 1: advice and throw it in the garbage. I and so,
Speaker 1: But the idea that you shouldn't have people in your life, like,
Speaker 1: hey man, that's a mistake. It's and I really like him.
Speaker 1: The thing is this, I think. I do think he's charming.
Speaker 1: I do think he's talented. I do think he is
Speaker 1: well intentioned. But I think there is a protectionism. He
Speaker 1: right now, to me, is in a really and they're
Speaker 1: not similar player, but oh he is risking entering the
Speaker 1: tbow zone of your biggest fans hurt you where because
Speaker 1: you are such a celebrity and because they have more
Speaker 1: you are. You are not only a person anymore. You
Speaker 1: are like a vessel for their own wants and desires.
Speaker 1: That that works against you professionally. And Dion, and the
Speaker 1: last thing I'll say is this, and this is where
Speaker 1: like it's tough because you see your own kids through
Speaker 1: a parent's eyes, you know what I mean, through the
Speaker 1: and I get that. Dion's gotta recognize, man, you could
Speaker 1: do this. Your son can't. Why because Dion's one of
Speaker 1: the greatest players in the history of the sport and
Speaker 1: your son is not. And he doesn't. And you'd be like, well,
Speaker 1: Dion wasn't that until no Dion was. Dion was a
Speaker 1: Dion going into the draft, was talking about this team
Speaker 1: better than not draft me or bankrupt the bank like that,
Speaker 1: Like I guess what people are like. All right, he
Speaker 1: might be a lot to deal with, But did you
Speaker 1: see the forty yard dash time? Did you see him
Speaker 1: locked down in the side of a field for two
Speaker 1: years at Florida State. Deon's like, I might play baseball too.
Speaker 1: They're like, we'll fly you out there, buddy. Whatever you want.
Speaker 1: Dion had two things going for him that are very
Speaker 1: important that you'd ordered not. One is he was a
Speaker 1: super superstar on the field, and the other one is
Speaker 1: he wasn't a quarter back, because as great as Dion was,
Speaker 1: if he were a post quack instead of a cornerback,
Speaker 1: it would have been trickier. And so Cam was a
Speaker 1: quarterback and dealt with some of this. But he's the
Speaker 1: he had was coming off the single greatest season in
Speaker 1: the history of college football, and so like he can.
Speaker 1: I just I don't know, man, I I legit worry
Speaker 1: that he is.
Speaker 2: He's he's hurt, He's like wounded like all the time.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, feelings are always hurt. And I think he
Speaker 2: kind of does it not to deal with it sometimes
Speaker 2: since I don't know, man, But like you know, with
Speaker 2: that type, no, I think.
Speaker 1: That's a great take, the idea that he is for
Speaker 1: the first time in his football life consistently being told yeah,
Speaker 1: you're not good enough right now, and when not only
Speaker 1: was he not told that before, he was the best
Speaker 1: player or second best player on every team he ever
Speaker 1: played on. Yeah, And so I think there is something
Speaker 1: to that. I think the whole thing though, I just
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Speaker 1: course do apply. Hugely concerned about Perdy's health, I would
Speaker 1: also be furious with my medical staff. Once again, if
Speaker 1: I'm the Niners, I it's not like the NFL spinds
Speaker 1: a wheel to determine who's playing Thursday night each week.
Speaker 1: You if you're the Niners, you knew that you were
Speaker 1: playing Thursday this week. Purty clearly was not one hundred
Speaker 1: percent this past Sunday. They let him play anyway, the
Speaker 1: injury got worse. He now is definitively going to miss
Speaker 1: this game and he's not even healthy enough to be
Speaker 1: like the emergency quarterback for them and could miss more time.
Speaker 1: I don't understand, especially because they did go to and
Speaker 1: zero with man Jones. How they don't hold party out
Speaker 1: demons this past Sunday and then he gets four extra
Speaker 1: days before he would be playing against the Rams to
Speaker 1: heal up that toe, and then ten days before the
Speaker 1: next game. You know you could get you could have
Speaker 1: eased him back in three games off and then he
Speaker 1: plays the Rams, then a mini buy before they play
Speaker 1: the next week. Now, this is probably going to be
Speaker 1: a problem all year, which brings me to the bigger
Speaker 1: party conversation. Man I, I said, all off season, why
Speaker 1: would you be in a rush to pay this player?
Speaker 1: He struggle at his worst year yet last year has
Speaker 1: dealt with some injuries and has no leverage whatsoever. Just
Speaker 1: wait and see. They gave him fifty what three million
Speaker 1: dollars a year and now like it has been four
Speaker 1: games into the contract, if they could wipe it away,
Speaker 1: would they? Of course? And I know that there is
Speaker 1: it felt unfair because he had made no money at
Speaker 1: all as the final pick of the draft, and they
Speaker 1: had been to a Super Bowl and been to a
Speaker 1: conference championship game and two of his years he had
Speaker 1: played really well. But you're not in the fairness business.
Speaker 1: You're in the football business. And the other had they
Speaker 1: not paid him, and then this, you know, we see
Speaker 1: this opening month of the season. It's like, oh, Mac Jones,
Speaker 1: who is basically on the minimum, can be dropped into
Speaker 1: this offense without all the weapons and it can function.
Speaker 1: Are we better off spending our money elsewhere? Are we? Like,
Speaker 1: do we need a fifty million dollars a year quarterback
Speaker 1: unless he's a true difference maker? And that's that's the
Speaker 1: other piece of this, is it We have so much
Speaker 1: evidence that that Shanahan system is relatively quarterback proof. Now, listen, parties,
Speaker 1: a healthy party is better than Mac and raises your ceiling.
Speaker 1: But does he raise your ceiling more than having three
Speaker 1: separate Pro Bowl level players that you could get with
Speaker 1: fifty million dollars a year. I don't know that he does.
Speaker 1: So I have been there are very few opinions that
Speaker 1: have spanned the course of five six years that have
Speaker 1: aged better than my I do not believe the Niners
Speaker 1: quarterback is as good as his numbers suggest. It's about Shanahan,
Speaker 1: the weapons and the system. Then that take. But once again,
Speaker 1: I think that takes going to age quite well. It
Speaker 1: also should be noted because people are putting out there
Speaker 1: the Niners wide receiver room, and I'm like, oh, I
Speaker 1: recognize those guys. Patrick Mahomes won super bowls with them,
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Robinson, Sky Moore, Mark wes Valdez, Scantling. What do
Speaker 1: you expect anyone to do? I don't know. Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: won Super Bowl. So like the there is that? All right?
Speaker 1: I know you want to ask me about Pooka.
Speaker 2: Uh yes, Where would you rank him amongst wide receivers.
Speaker 2: He's number one in yards receptions and yards by a lot,
Speaker 2: by a lot. Stafford loves him.
Speaker 1: He's on pace demons through sixteen games, not even seventeen
Speaker 1: game season, for more than one hundred and sixty catches
Speaker 1: in the first ever two thousand yard season. So here
Speaker 1: is all right? Here is the It's weird to say
Speaker 1: he has almost an ironclad case that he should be
Speaker 1: in consideration as the best receiver in the NFL. Yet
Speaker 1: I cannot wrap my mind around the idea that he's
Speaker 1: better than Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase. And I feel
Speaker 1: like he could have a two thousand yard season and
Speaker 1: I still would not be able to wrap my mind
Speaker 1: around it. But you know, he's doing it with not
Speaker 1: great quarterback play. He's doing it under I shouldn't say
Speaker 1: he's not great quarterback play. He's he's doing it when
Speaker 1: he's not fully healthy. He's been able to just do it.
Speaker 1: And it's I think he's playing at a higher level
Speaker 1: than Cooper Cup did. And so some of that is,
Speaker 1: you know, when we saw Cooper Cup do it, now
Speaker 1: we're saying pooka do it. Stafford and McVeigh gets some
Speaker 1: of the credit, but Pook is an unbelievable player. He
Speaker 1: is really an unbelievable player, and he's certainly demands has
Speaker 1: to be in your top five. Certainly, I still think
Speaker 1: Jefferson's the best receiver in football, but man, Pook is
Speaker 1: an unbelo levable player. He doesn't unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Seems like a solid teammate as well. I mean, yes,
Speaker 2: Jefferson as well, but you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he doesn't. It doesn't seem like he has
Speaker 1: the like wide receiver curse. But it also helps that
Speaker 1: he gets fifteen targets a game. I think all the
Speaker 1: series will be pretty happy with you know what I
Speaker 1: mean with with those types of targets