1 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: Since the time I was four years old. 2 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: I've been an athlete all the way up through high school, 3 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 2: postgraduate year playing football, lacrosse, playing lacrosse at Penn State, 4 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 2: working with professional sports teams as a motivational performance coach. 5 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: You know, I have just come to realize that athletics 6 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: is the greatest way that we can influence our young 7 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: people to becoming healthy, mature, productive adults in society. Now 8 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: here's the kicker to this. In the last several years, 9 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: I have seen something I haven't seen. 10 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: In a long time. Now. It was there, but it 11 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: was kind of hidden, and that is the explosion in 12 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: Christianity amongst athletes across every single level, from little league. 13 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: Travel all the way up to pro athletes to college athletes. 14 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: And it's overwhelming. 15 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: And so I wanted to discuss this with somebody that 16 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 2: I believe has genuine insight and has been paying attention 17 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: to this for a long. 18 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: Time now, mister John Root. 19 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: And John has been worked with the San Jose Sharks 20 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: and other athletic organizations from minor leagues all the way 21 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: up through the pros and has a real understanding because 22 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 2: of his own faith and his own athletic background and 23 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 2: playing D two sports in his life. But man, I thought, 24 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 2: this is the guy that can give anybody who's listening 25 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: why it's so pertinent to have christ involved in. 26 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: Our sports programs. Mister Root, thank you for coming on 27 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: the show. 28 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to chatting about this and I appreciate 29 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: you having me. 30 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: All right, perfect, so tell me, let's just talk. When 31 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: did you first start playing sports? 32 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 3: Man, I'd love to say, pretty much right out the womb, 33 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: I was playing sports. I had an older brother as 34 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 3: about three year years older, so I'm sure he was 35 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: pushing me like once I was able to crawl like 36 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 3: let's ball. But man, I played pretty much every sport 37 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,839 Speaker 3: you can imagine, football, basketball, baseball, tennis, ran track, did 38 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 3: some cross country stuff like it's I love sports. I 39 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 3: obviously follow sports on my platform and cover it, you know, 40 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 3: pretty much for a living ever since being canceled from 41 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 3: working to pro sports and working in sports media. But 42 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 3: I played D two football, like you said, and I 43 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 3: think sports has the ability to bring us together better 44 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 3: than anything else. It is a driver for establishing life 45 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 3: skills and building up men, maybe better than any other 46 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: institution other than the church. So I love sports. It's 47 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: a joy to cover it, even though there's been you know, 48 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 3: falling by the wayside with some you know, left wing politics. 49 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 3: But I think sports are absolutely incredible and amazing outlet 50 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 3: and I can't get enough. 51 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you remember like the first team when you 52 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: were a kid paying attention that all of a sudden, 53 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: like the athletes or the players that you were. 54 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: Following, you just you're like, oh my god, that is 55 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: that is it. That's the place. 56 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: For me. It was Rocky blier Man on the Pittsburgh Steelers, 57 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: and I'll never forget, Like I learned that he was 58 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: a Vietnam VETT, he'd been blown up, he had come back, 59 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: you know, he had left the team, and then Art 60 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: Rooney said, please come back. 61 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: You're the heartbeat of the team. 62 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: And then that faithful you know time where he and 63 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: frank O Harris got the stare. 64 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: It changed the whole course of the Steelers. 65 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,119 Speaker 2: And you know, and so and I had this incredible 66 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: opportunity to meet him a couple of times, we did 67 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: a couple speaking events together, and and and just you know, 68 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: the power of those influences are so overwhelming. Who was 69 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: it for you when you were a kid where you 70 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: recognize this is bigger than anything else. 71 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: Right, I'm going to throw out a name that probably 72 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 3: a lot of your listeners and viewers have no idea. 73 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: Ben Greave. Ben Greave was the AL Rookie of the 74 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 3: Year when I was a very little kid. I was 75 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 3: born in the San Francisco area, born in the East 76 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: Bay in Walnut Creek, and I have always loved the 77 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 3: Oakland A's. Obviously to a fault. It's not an easy 78 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 3: team in the roof. For now they're the Sacramento As, 79 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 3: and then they're gonna be the Vegas A's and you know, 80 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 3: all your all your favorite players throughout life, you know, 81 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 3: they just get traded. But Ben Greave was just and 82 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: that's the best part about being a kid. You know, 83 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 3: I don't essentially know like what's his plate approach and 84 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 3: you know, really who is he? I was just like, 85 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 3: I like this guy. He plays well, and my babysitter 86 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 3: had a huge crush on him, and he was just 87 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 3: the like he was a rock star in my world. 88 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 3: I got to meet him, and I got to meet 89 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 3: Tye LaRussa and a few other people associated with the 90 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,239 Speaker 3: Oklon A's organization when I was a kid. I'm about 91 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 3: to go to my first a's in Sacramento as I'm 92 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 3: usiting my parents up here tomorrow, Like I'm I loved 93 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 3: Ben Greeve and I collected his cards as a kid, 94 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 3: and I mean he dropped off after being Ale Rookie 95 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: of the Year, but I loved that guy. He made 96 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 3: me fall in love with baseball. And that was the 97 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 3: first of just many players that made a huge impact 98 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 3: on me. 99 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 2: And it's interesting, It's funny you brought up Tony, you know. 100 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: When I was I worked with the Red Sox for 101 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 2: three years and was a coach for him, you know, 102 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: in eighteen specifically when they won and they brought Tony 103 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 2: in to help Alex Korra that year as like a 104 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: mentor whatever to his first year managing. 105 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: And and I got to. 106 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: Know Tony and and and actually was at Walnart Creek 107 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: for his his he does a big charity for animals. 108 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: And was was able to get on stage a few 109 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: years ago with him and and but I remember just 110 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: sitting with him, you know, he would I'd be like, hey, 111 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 2: you know, coach, can I I ask you questions? 112 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: He's like, all right, here's the deal, right, you. 113 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 2: Can ask me questions if we are at if I'm 114 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 2: at dinner, and you can ask me questions as long 115 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: as I'm eating or drinking. 116 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,559 Speaker 1: And I was like, check rotch. I think our first 117 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: one went four hours long. I just kept feed them drinks. 118 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 2: And the whole thing was just like I wanted to know, right, 119 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: what about those players jose Conseko right, Mark McGuire, Dennis Eckerlesy, 120 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 2: Ricky Henderson. 121 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: I go, you know, what is it about? 122 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 2: You know, how do you bring those personalities together and 123 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 2: get them to focus on things? And and and you know, 124 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 2: he the one thing he was that he always said 125 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 2: is he said, you know, uh, it's it was. It 126 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: took me a little while, but when I first started coaching, 127 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 2: it was when I realized that the whole thing was 128 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: to let, you know, the natural order of the individual 129 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: integrate with their teammates, not to try and push them 130 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,799 Speaker 2: towards something or force them in some kind of mindset whatever, 131 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: To let them be themselves, to let them develop those 132 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: friendships or whatever that camaraderie was, and then to support 133 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: them as individuals to come to become the collective nature 134 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: of the organization. 135 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: And I remember going, my god, man, that's genius. 136 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: Like it's like you're not forcing anybody into one thing, 137 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: and so I you know, for for me, like as 138 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: an athlete, I always felt that that piece as as 139 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: I got older, especially now as i've I've been doing 140 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: what I've been doing, is like coaches kind of forget that. 141 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 2: They don't they don't get the sense of of what 142 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 2: can bring the teams together. 143 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: Have you noticed that as you've been. 144 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: Involved in being really as an analyst within the sports world, 145 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: that teams will be filled with great players and great individuals, 146 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: but somehow there's a barrier between their ability to come together. 147 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: And why do you think that is? 148 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 3: Well, I'll do two different examples. So you see a 149 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 3: team like the Miami Heat, and we're not saying that 150 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 3: those are you know, Christian guys or you know, some 151 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 3: of the best examples of what men should be. But 152 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 3: they're a good example of the best basketball players at 153 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: that time creating a super team. And in a lot 154 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 3: of ways, people would say they fell short, they didn't 155 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 3: live up to the hype. Lebron James said, you know, 156 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 3: we're not gonna win two, We're gonna go three or four, 157 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 3: you know. And then I look at the other hand, 158 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 3: you got a team like the Boise State Broncos. Last year, 159 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 3: they didn't have the best athletes in the country. They 160 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 3: had one of the best athletes in the country, Ashton Genty, 161 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 3: but actually a former teammate of mine, Spencer Danielson, the 162 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: head coach of Boise State football, brought them together really 163 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 3: under the banner of Christ. There were players that were 164 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 3: saved throughout that and they had an amazing run. Obviously 165 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 3: they ran into a juggernaut Penn State. But I think 166 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 3: there's times where you can bring a team together under 167 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 3: something that's just bigger than a bunch of great athletes, 168 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 3: because you can put the best athletes on one team 169 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 3: and I know I'm preaching to the choir, They're not 170 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 3: necessarily gonna win. There's egos involved, there's not the ability 171 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 3: to actually compliment each other's play. There's a sense of 172 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 3: selflessness that you need, and there's more than anything, a 173 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 3: sense of buying. We've both been around sports and we've 174 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 3: seen some like I wasn't a great athlete. I was 175 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 3: blessed enough to play D two football, but and you know, 176 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 3: be a captain on the basketball team and football team 177 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 3: in high school and everything. But I saw so many 178 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 3: guys that were twenty five times more athletic than me, 179 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 3: and I just ended up being better because I bought in. 180 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 3: I just worked harder, And maybe that was a part 181 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 3: of me that just knew that, you know, I'm just 182 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: some lanky, goofy, tall, white, blondhaired guy that needs to 183 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 3: actually maybe put in a little bit more work. And 184 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 3: I wasn't blessed with the most athletic ability. But you know, 185 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 3: we see that over and over again. And you know, 186 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 3: I think something that was really instilled in me is 187 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 3: when I played it as Zusa Pacific. If people are 188 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 3: familiar with Christian Nakoye the Nigeria Nightmare, that's basically our 189 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 3: claim to fame. I to Zusa Pacific. They were building 190 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 3: warrior men for christ We were really good at uh 191 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 3: while I was playing out a Zusa Pacific. 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Who yeah, Okay, 240 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: all right, here's the deal. 241 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: John. I met this coach, Coach Swider. 242 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 2: He is having a profound impact on his the people 243 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: that have played for him, because that was his whole thing. 244 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: He's like, I'm building warriors for Christ and I'm gonna 245 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 2: use the tool of football. 246 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: And it's funny. 247 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 2: You know, in the firm I work with for my 248 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 2: day job, you know, there's like fifteen guys that played 249 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 2: for him and for three years. 250 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: Before they'd be like, rut, you gotta meet coach Schweider. 251 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: You gotta listen to what he says. 252 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, And you know, he's got this 253 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: great YouTube video where he gives these five things that 254 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: you know will make you a better player, and it's 255 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 2: all about your your relationship to Christ and to God, 256 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: you know. 257 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: And near very distinct things. 258 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 2: And you know, I think what's interesting, you know, the 259 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: one that I really kind of felt like the turn happened. 260 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: Remember when the Eagles won a few years ago and 261 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: they were doing baptisms in their locker room, like the 262 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 2: head coach was really into it, And that felt like 263 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: that was the moment things kind of broke through where 264 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 2: now Christianity was going to be, where it's now commonplace. 265 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: I mean, last weekend we saw a great game Michigan 266 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: versus Nebraska. After the game, almost both the entire teams 267 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 2: are in the middle of the field praying with each other, right, 268 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 2: and the spiritual leader of Nebraska's team, the wonderful guy, 269 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 2: spent some time I know, Matt real Well spent some 270 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 2: time with them a couple of years ago. And the guy, 271 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: this wonderful coach there, just amazing guy and really preaches 272 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: the word better name. But like now it's like these 273 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 2: kids are starting to realize, oh wow, this is the 274 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: framework that I've never had before. When did you first 275 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 2: utilize the framework of your faith in your development as 276 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 2: an athlete? 277 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 3: Well, the thing you start to realize as a Christian 278 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 3: is is christ a priority? And you know, so many 279 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 3: times throughout my life I can look back and be like, 280 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 3: you know what, I didn't have a reverence for the 281 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 3: Lord like I should have when I was young. Obviously 282 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 3: there's a sanctification process that we go through, and you know, 283 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 3: I didn't really understand aspects of theology, theology and the 284 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 3: authority of scripture and why church is so important. And 285 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 3: I knew that my faith was a foundation, but was 286 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 3: I leaning on it as much as I should. I 287 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 3: don't think it really clicked. And so college, and you know, 288 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 3: it's really a testament to head coach Victor Santa Cruz, 289 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 3: the Special Teams coach gave Hirard over it Azusa Pacific 290 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 3: and a lot of my teammates, like I mentioned before, 291 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 3: like Spencer Danielson, like great, great leaders, and we did 292 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 3: things like it's called life classes. So you're learning about 293 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 3: what it means to be a man. You're learning scripturally, 294 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 3: it's like you're called to be leaders. You know, we 295 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 3: live in a hyper feminine and feminized society where you know, 296 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 3: you need to diminish yourself as a man and just 297 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 3: kind of let the females take the shine. It's like 298 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 3: we're supposed to be protectors, providers and leaders. We're not 299 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 3: supposed to be authoritarians. But here's how you go about that. 300 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: As you date, Here's how you go about it. As 301 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 3: you're married. Here's when you go about it. You know, 302 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 3: when you're trying to buy a home and a car 303 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 3: and as a teammate, those are the kind of things 304 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 3: that just really started to click. And you know, part 305 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 3: of my testimony, I could have been saved before, but 306 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 3: I do say that I was saved my freshman year 307 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 3: at college. And you know, I got baptized and that 308 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 3: was one of the best days of my life really 309 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 3: other than getting married. And I started to just really 310 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 3: understand that this needs to be the foundation, and you 311 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 3: need mentors, you need good people around you, and accountability 312 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 3: partners because as men, we're idiots. We are not going 313 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 3: to figure it out on our own. We would love 314 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 3: to be like im, a sole survivor in this situation. 315 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 3: I'm the lone ranger. I can go through this. And 316 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 3: you know, really the only person that would be able 317 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 3: to go through these forty days in the desert alone 318 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 3: and come out better is Jesus Christ. So we need 319 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 3: we need others around us. And it's I mean, so 320 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 3: many skills, life skills and values that were incorporated in 321 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 3: the ZUSA specific football program I still incorporate in the 322 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 3: way that you know, I go about my work now 323 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 3: covering Christian athletes, covering sports, pushing back against the nonsense 324 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 3: that we see within sports media and so on. 325 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 2: What what made you decide, hey, listen, this is something 326 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: that it needs a voice attached to it, right Obviously 327 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 2: you could, uh, you know, go in get into the 328 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: world of athletics. 329 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: Your you know, your commentary's great. I've watched it. 330 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 2: You're good looking, dude, like you've got a great background, 331 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 2: you know what you're talking about, Like you could have 332 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 2: just you know, gone towards you got that great ESPN 333 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: job or you know, Fox Sports News job or whatever. 334 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 2: What made you want to just start saying no, no, man, 335 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 2: this as a Christian, we need to bring a voice 336 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 2: to you know, uh, this space. Right. What was the 337 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 2: kind of catalyst for you to want to begin to 338 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 2: start to react to that stuff? 339 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 3: Well, I just realized there's so many important things that 340 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 3: we need to cover and people that we need to highlight, 341 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 3: and that Jesus needs to be proclaimed. For me a 342 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 3: little bit more of my backstories. Like you said, I 343 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 3: worked in minor league baseball first season that I moved 344 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 3: up to the Bay Area after that and work for 345 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 3: the Sharks for five seasons, work for the Golden State 346 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 3: Warriors G League team, did some work with NBC Sports 347 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 3: up there. Man, I'm working my way up and I 348 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 3: want to you know, I want to be the next 349 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 3: Stuart Scott, be the white Stuart Scott, have my own 350 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 3: little lingo and catch phrase and work for a major 351 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,719 Speaker 3: sports media outlet. And you know a part of that 352 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 3: is God slammed that door. I got canceled. I went 353 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 3: I during the pandemic. I moved out to Phoenix for 354 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 3: a time, went to the gym without a mask, and 355 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: then that was it. You know, I was working for 356 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 3: a company called Fanatics at the time, and you know, 357 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 3: God has you know, a way of saying, oh, you're 358 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 3: really trying to not like saying I was a Jonah 359 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 3: like figure where he was calling me somewhere, and I'm 360 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 3: just really going the other way. I think it's more 361 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 3: of a you know, here's a trial, and you've talked about, 362 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 3: you know, highlighting Christian athletes and what's going on with 363 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 3: faith and sports, like dive into it, and you know 364 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 3: at times you need to die to yourself and be like, well, 365 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 3: you know, is that necessarily going to be the thing 366 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 3: that you know, I could build a career on. And 367 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 3: it's like forget it. Like these people are helping make disciples, 368 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 3: They're inspiring people to be more bold about their faith. 369 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 3: And obviously now we're in a time you know, obviously 370 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 3: what happened to Charlie was horrific, but what was evil 371 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 3: it has been turned for good. And how people are 372 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 3: bold about their faith, and I think I started to see, Wow, 373 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 3: a lot of these athletes need to be highlighted more. 374 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 3: You might never have heard of this athlete, but look 375 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 3: at what they just said, even after they lost a game. 376 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 3: Like you you talk about, oh gosh, I'm going blank 377 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,719 Speaker 3: on his name. Played for the Texas Longhorns. Obviously they 378 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 3: lost in the college football quarterfinal, and oh no last year, yeah, 379 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 3: last year. And you know he's given praise and glory 380 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 3: to Jesus Christ. And then you're seeing teams like you know, 381 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,959 Speaker 3: I'm talking about almost a revival that was going on 382 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 3: in college football Ohio State. Ohio State had so many 383 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 3: bold Christians from g Scott Junior to Treveon Henderson to 384 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 3: Will Howard. And for me, I've just seen so many 385 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 3: posts go viral just simply resharing what an athlete has 386 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 3: said proclaiming their faith. Those are my favorite things that 387 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 3: go viral on social media because for so long people 388 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 3: are like sports are woke, athletes are just egotistical. I 389 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 3: don't care about sports anymore. And it's like, well, you know, 390 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 3: I can understand your frustration. I've been frustrated myself as 391 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 3: someone that's wanted to work in sports ever since he 392 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 3: was a kid. But here's some athletes you should support. 393 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 3: Here's some things that you should share, and it's such 394 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 3: an amazing outlet to share the gospel. And they're just 395 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 3: little little nuggets, and I try to do whatever I 396 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 3: can to find those clips people sending to me. At times, 397 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,959 Speaker 3: I'm watching sports all day long, so at times it's 398 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 3: not crazy that I don't miss some of these. But 399 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 3: it's been so cool to see it resonate with so 400 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 3: many people and encourage other athletes and coaches to be 401 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 3: bold in their faith. 402 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: Well, I agree. 403 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: I mean I've even now, like my oldest daughter's big 404 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 2: soccer player wants to play in college, and you know, 405 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 2: she's part. 406 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: Of a group at her high school, you know, the. 407 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 2: Christian Athletes Club, right, and it's like yeah, and it's like, 408 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: all right, this is really. 409 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: Cool that you know. 410 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 2: But I think the thing is is, you know, is 411 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 2: I think you know, if young people are listening, you know. 412 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: How do I what do I do? 413 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 2: How do I bring my faith to my team in 414 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: a way that it's not pushing it on anybody in 415 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: a way that's not you know, overwhelming, that's you know 416 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 2: for those that are reluctant or resistance or don't want 417 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 2: it integrated. You know, what are some things you've seen 418 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 2: or somebody ideas that you experience on your team in college? 419 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: What works? How does an individual. 420 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 2: Who's devout in their faith to Christ, how do they 421 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: interject or not interject? 422 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: How do they offer it right? How do they offer. 423 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: That that that blessing, that sense of deeper faith into 424 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 2: what sport can do for people in our development and 425 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: and you know, our our passionate love for Christ. 426 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, Number one, you need to humble yourself. You know, 427 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 3: why do you want to talk about this? Are you 428 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 3: trying to win an argument? Are you trying to just 429 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 3: post Bible versus online to just try to get a 430 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 3: few likes? Like are you really living for Christ? And 431 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 3: I think one of the best places to start, and 432 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 3: probably the place you should start, is you need to 433 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 3: be under a biblical church. You need to be at church, 434 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 3: and especially if you got college athletes out there, whether 435 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 3: you're in high school, you need to be at church. 436 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 3: You need to become a member of that church so 437 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 3: you can be held accountable to that church. And just 438 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 3: like I need a discipleship when I was younger and 439 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 3: still need it today, you need to be disciple through 440 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 3: that church. You need to serve at that church and 441 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 3: you need a mentor maybe that's through discipleship, and maybe 442 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 3: it's both to make sure that you can really build 443 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 3: upon the foundation that you have in Christ. And that's 444 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 3: a part of the sanctification process that I was talking 445 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 3: about earlier. You want to become more and more like Christ. 446 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 3: You want God to speak to you, maybe open up 447 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 3: God's word and that's how He'll speak to you. Because 448 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 3: if you really want to share your faith and be 449 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 3: bold and so it's so important to do that and 450 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 3: not shy away just because you're like, well, I don't 451 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 3: know if I necessarily have a defense for the hope 452 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 3: that I have for Speter three fifteen, I don't know 453 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 3: if I have good apologetics. So AKA, just like defense 454 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 3: of the faith, it's okay. You know, no one's saying 455 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 3: that you have to have it all figured out in 456 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 3: order to share it. But you need to be in church. 457 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 3: You need to be disciples, you need to be mentored, 458 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 3: and you need to be serving at church. And I 459 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 3: think that is such an amazing place as we gather 460 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 3: as a body of believers to build each other up 461 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 3: and go out from there on Sundays and Wednesdays and 462 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 3: other events throughout the week. To make disciples and hopefully 463 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 3: from there there's a greater understanding of the authority of Scripture, 464 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 3: what the gospel really is. And that's what I think somebody, 465 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 3: as I finish up this long ramp before you, David, 466 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 3: is if someone asked you number one, why do you 467 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 3: believe what you believe? And giving an explanation of the gospel, 468 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 3: you should probably have that in your back pocket, not 469 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 3: just so you look good. But I think of somebody 470 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 3: like a friend like Pastor Costi Hen. He's got a 471 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 3: church out in Phoenix, Arizona. He was just on the 472 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk Show with Ali Bethstucky and he gave an amazing, 473 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 3: amazing breakdown of the gospel. The things we need to 474 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 3: think about is we need to be prepared for those 475 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 3: things because you just need to be a leader on 476 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 3: your team. Don't put your light underneath the lamp stands, 477 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 3: and be bold and be unashamed of the gospel. 478 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: I love it. 479 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 2: I one of a young man that I've been mentoring 480 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,719 Speaker 2: for about seven years now. He you know, he started 481 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 2: as a freshman at Penn State lacrosse and he just, 482 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 2: you know. 483 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: Was I'm not playing this sucks. I hate it. You know, 484 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: I wish what can I do? 485 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 2: And we just stuck to you know, focus on what 486 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 2: really you know, gave him the strength to keep fighting 487 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: for that role. Ends up you know, becoming a starter, 488 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 2: ends up becoming captain of the team, and then you know, 489 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 2: starts a Bible study within the team that grows from 490 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 2: like three to twelve to eighteen. They're doing prayers after 491 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 2: games and you know, and I was just like, you know, 492 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 2: and I never once was like, hey, man, you should 493 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 2: do this on the team. He was like, hey, you 494 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 2: think this would have a positive impact. And I go, well, 495 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, man, As a you know, coming 496 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 2: from my background and special operations where you know, it 497 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 2: was almost like can we be faithful? 498 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: Can we integrate this in or is it too much 499 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: of a dichotomy? 500 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 2: Right? You know, I'm out there learning how to kill people, 501 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 2: and can I also be a Christian? And you know, 502 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 2: you're wrapped up into this whole thing. And I think 503 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: that was the fundamentally the worst decision I could have 504 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: ever made. Was not allowed because it was right next 505 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 2: to me all the time, like one or two guys 506 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 2: that would be like, you know, hey, rut Man, do 507 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 2: you believe or do you believe? Or nah, man, I can't. 508 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 2: I'm not going to bear that weight with. 509 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 1: All this too. 510 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 2: And and I thought of it as in the completely 511 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 2: wrong context. 512 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, having those. 513 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 2: Individuals that are believers be able to step into the 514 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 2: breach right and really say, hey, man, you know you 515 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 2: want to talk about your faith and how that can 516 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 2: then impact your performance in sport. That's an important thing. 517 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 2: What would you recommend to those kids that are faithful 518 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: that want to bring their faith into their teams? 519 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: How should they start and what should they do? 520 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 3: I think number one too, there's an aspect of respect, 521 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 3: you know, there's a sense of you know, how do 522 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 3: you maybe not just like grandstand with this. I mean, 523 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 3: there's a way to approach these things that I'm not 524 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 3: saying just because the coach tells you that you can't 525 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 3: talk about your faith, that you should just like, oh, 526 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 3: I just respect my coach. I'm not going to talk 527 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 3: about faith. I think, just especially even during let's relate it, 528 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 3: during this time, people are so bold about their faith 529 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 3: because they've seen how bold Charlie Kirk was and a 530 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 3: lot of people they'll think, man, but I don't have 531 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 3: a platform like Charlie. I don't have a platform like 532 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 3: David or John, and I don't really have a social 533 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 3: media following. You can make way more of a difference 534 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 3: just having an individual conversation with one teammate. There is 535 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 3: one teammate that you have that is curious about faith 536 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 3: or is going down the wrong path, like I think, 537 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to pull this up real quick. There's 538 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 3: a player on the Carolina Hurricanes and his Jacob Slaven 539 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 3: He's helped guide one of his teammates, Jalen Chatfield, to 540 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 3: Christ and he said this, in my whole career, I 541 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 3: never win the Cup or anything, but Jalen Chatfield came 542 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,959 Speaker 3: to know the Lord. That's a successful career. That's what 543 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 3: every single young listening right now should think about. You 544 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 3: want accolades, you want to win. We're doing everything to 545 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 3: the glory of Christ. If you help lead one teammate 546 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 3: to Church and the Holy Spirit does the Holy Spirit 547 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 3: then and changes that heart of stone to a heart 548 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 3: of flesh, that is a successful career, and that is 549 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 3: being the best teammates and best Christian you possibly can. 550 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 3: Don't feel like you need to have some amazing raw 551 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 3: ras speeches. There's individuals on your team at your school, 552 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 3: in your classrooms that you can make a difference with. 553 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 3: And it's simply sharing the Gospel and taking the time 554 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 3: to listen to questions and be in the hands of 555 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 3: feeder Christ. 556 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 2: And man, that's beautiful, John, That's absolutely the best advice 557 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 2: that I've heard someone give to a person that's in 558 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 2: that space who wants to be that mentor who wants. 559 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: To share the gospel. 560 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 2: What about the person on the other side, you know, 561 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 2: what about the person that's you know, the kid is 562 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 2: probably grew up in tough area, tough time, difficult to 563 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 2: believe that you know, Christ is out there waiting for 564 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: them their salvation, you know, through that sacrifice. You know 565 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 2: they just like, man, that stuff never got me through. 566 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 2: Only being tough got me through. That's what it is. 567 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 2: What do you say to those people or or the 568 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 2: people that are like, man, I wonder why that dude 569 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 2: loves Christ so much? Like, what what is it about? 570 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 2: What do you say to those guys that are kind 571 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 2: of wondering and they're not sure. 572 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 3: I would start with the idea that if you follow Christ, 573 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 3: it's going to be an easy life. Let's go through 574 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 3: Scripture together. Let's talk about the disciples that were all 575 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 3: brutally murdered for sharing the gospel, for building christ Church 576 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 3: and just time and time again their struggle. And it's 577 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 3: one of the only things that we're guaranteed is Christians, 578 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 3: is that we're going to struggle on this side of eternity. 579 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 3: And life is really hard. And if you see another 580 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 3: Christian staying faithful during tough times, whether it's as simple 581 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 3: as the story like you just shared, you feel like 582 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 3: you're getting the raw end of the deal and you're 583 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 3: not getting playing time. You're better than the person that's 584 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 3: in front of you. Politics are being played by your 585 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 3: coaches and athletic department. There's other really horrific things that 586 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 3: have happened. We've been around plenty of you guys that 587 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 3: don't have fathers, and they're looking for spiritual guidance, they're 588 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 3: looking for solid friendship, and I think what we'd need 589 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 3: to do is just constantly remind them that the value, 590 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 3: peace fulfillment and joy that you're looking for can only 591 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 3: be found in Christ. You can be with the hottest 592 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 3: chicks on campus and just be the most sought after 593 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 3: playboy on campus. You're left empty if you're willing to 594 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 3: admit it. You getting all these accolades, getting playing time, 595 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 3: everybody knows you on campus, you're a star on national television. 596 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 3: You know, you could be a Heisman nominee. And without Christ, 597 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 3: essentially you're nothing. You're doing it maybe for your family 598 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 3: and some you know, maybe some you know, of your 599 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 3: own conjured ideas of what good morals are. There would 600 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 3: be nothing like doing everything for the glory of Christ. 601 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 3: And that's where I hope when there's somebody listening and 602 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 3: they're like, you know what I'm and again it's it's 603 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 3: just I have to mention it with like the explosion 604 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 3: of I don't use the term revival much, but it 605 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 3: feels like almost on the cusp of that, and people 606 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 3: are hearing about, you know, their government officials are talking 607 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 3: about Christ, their teammates, their neighbors, their family, like, there's 608 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 3: discussions happening, and I'd say, just be willing to have 609 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 3: an open heart and ask questions and really dive deep 610 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 3: into why that person in your life is a Christ follower. 611 00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 3: And then again that comes down to what, like Eric 612 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 3: Kirk said it Charlie Kirk's memorial. You know, there's an 613 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 3: amazing opportunity and job that we need to live into 614 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 3: as Christians is discipling those that are interested in christ. 615 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 3: They're curious about what it means to go to church, 616 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 3: They're curious what it means to be a Christian. They're 617 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 3: trying to make sense of all. 618 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: This wonderful That is such a phenomenal answer. 619 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 2: Now, I know you spend a little time over at 620 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 2: tp USA and New Charlie and you know him being 621 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 2: a great athlete himself. I love the video of him 622 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 2: chucking that football fifty meters like it was nothing. 623 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 3: Man. 624 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 2: You know, he had cannon for an arm and as 625 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 2: a quarterback, I know a great arm when I see it, right, 626 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 2: And you know what, I'm sure the last few weeks 627 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 2: has been difficult, and you know, can you just summarize 628 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 2: a little reflection of you know, what Charlie represents to 629 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 2: you and then and as it relates also for being 630 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 2: to you know, like you said, that revival that's taking 631 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 2: place in building, maybe just a few minutes on that 632 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 2: would be great. 633 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like number one, what people are seeing about Charlie 634 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 3: and they might just be finding out about Charlie over 635 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks. They're like, yeah, maybe I 636 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 3: kind of heard that name before when you're like, whoa, 637 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 3: he had an incredible defense for the faith. And then 638 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 3: you see, you know, going back to what should Christians 639 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 3: be doing is finding a mentor and being disciple. He's 640 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 3: got someone like doctor Frank Turk by his side, a 641 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 3: great friend of mine that knew how to build up 642 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 3: Charlie in apologetics and giving a defense of the faith. 643 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 3: And Charlie was bold, and he wasn't just bold. He 644 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 3: lived into First Peter three fourteen through seventeen. He had 645 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 3: a defense for the hope that he had. He did 646 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 3: it with gentleness and respect. He was meek, but that 647 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 3: doesn't mean that he was weak. He displayed Christ in 648 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 3: so many inner actions and having civil discourse with people 649 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 3: that hate him and threatened him. And obviously these people 650 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 3: kill them for it. And that's where I hope people are. 651 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 3: They get a revitalization of their faith that you don't 652 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 3: need to be having conversations on college campuses in front 653 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 3: of thousands of college students. Again, you can make such 654 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 3: a difference with your coworker that you've decided I just 655 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 3: don't know if I want to have that conversation. What 656 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 3: if they think I'm weird and I don't want to 657 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 3: be a Bible thumper. You know what about that family 658 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 3: member that you haven't had that conversation with. Those can 659 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 3: make such a massive impact. And if more people decide 660 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 3: I'm going to be bold and try to have that conversation, 661 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 3: sometimes they're not going to be open to it, and 662 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 3: that's okay, that is fine. You're still going to do 663 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,959 Speaker 3: it with gentleness and respect. There's plenty of times where 664 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 3: we need to stand firm in the faith and you know, 665 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 3: maybe raise our voice and say what our whole chest. 666 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 3: There's plenty of times we need to do that, especially 667 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 3: as warrior men. You know, we're not always going to 668 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 3: be you know, wielding the sword while we're defending the faith. 669 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 3: But someone like Charlie, I think, gave a great example 670 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 3: of what it means to have proper civil discourse around 671 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 3: disagreements with people that don't follow Christ. And I hope 672 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 3: more than anything that people if you're curious about going 673 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 3: to church, the Christian faith, the authority of scripture, why 674 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 3: David and I believe what we believe, We're open for 675 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:47,399 Speaker 3: those conversations. We want to talk about that, and at 676 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 3: the same time, like please find a Bible believing Christian 677 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 3: church in your community. I guarantee you they will welcome 678 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 3: you with open arms. They got people there that can 679 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 3: pray for you, They got people there that can answer questions. 680 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 3: There are countless churches throughout the country. Give it a try, 681 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 3: and at the same time, open. 682 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: Up the Bible. 683 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 3: You know, there's there's so many great ways to go 684 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 3: through it. You got the Bible app They can give 685 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 3: you reading plans. And I just hope that people are 686 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 3: encouraged during this time to again not put your light 687 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 3: underneath the lampstand, be unashamed of the gospel, be unapologetic 688 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 3: as you share about your faith and the work that 689 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 3: Jesus Christ has done. Not the work that we've done 690 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 3: that saves us. The only thing that saves us is 691 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 3: the grace through faith in Christ alone. 692 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: Hey man, John, that was beautiful brother, Thank you so much. 693 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 2: I appreciate your thoughts, and you know my prayers for 694 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,760 Speaker 2: you and all your friends that are are still grave 695 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 2: and all that. 696 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 1: Right now, man, where. 697 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 2: Can people follow you? How can they pay attention to 698 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 2: what you're doing? And then what do you got next 699 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 2: coming along? 700 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 3: You can follow me on Instagram TikTok and X. It's 701 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,919 Speaker 3: at Johnny Root Underscore and then what's next. It's it's 702 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,839 Speaker 3: interesting to, you know, try to figure out, you know, 703 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 3: what I'm really going to be doing other than spending 704 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 3: more time on YouTube. There's a lot of people that say, 705 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 3: I like your short form content. I enjoy what you're 706 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 3: putting out there on X, but you know, kind of 707 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 3: learning the YouTube game a little bit more, having long 708 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 3: form discussions, providing some clarity to things, because Lord knows, 709 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 3: when we try to do something in sixty to ninety seconds, 710 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 3: there's gonna be things that we missed. People are gonna 711 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 3: misconstrue it. I'm maybe not going to be presenting something 712 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,760 Speaker 3: maybe with the tone and clarity that it probably should. 713 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 3: So I want to provide some more of those and 714 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 3: then hopefully do somemorial man of Street content. You know, 715 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 3: interact with some people because if people aren't aware, Like 716 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 3: I was outside the Supreme Court when Roby Wade was overturned, 717 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 3: I was covering the Leah Thomas story at Georgia Tech. 718 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 3: I enjoy interacting with people, especially on the other side 719 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 3: of the aisle, and I really want to have more 720 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 3: conversations with people like that and Charlie's definitely inspired that 721 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 3: quite a bit. 722 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 2: Awesome, John Well, I wish you all the best, man. 723 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 2: I think you're awesome at what you do. I'd love 724 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 2: to see you go around the country and just highlight 725 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,760 Speaker 2: these programs that have just allowed faith to take center 726 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 2: stage and really just turning, like you said, young athletes 727 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 2: into real followers of Christ. 728 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: Man. 729 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 2: I just commend you on what you're doing and thanks 730 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 2: for coming on and I just God bless you and 731 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 2: everything you're doing. 732 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 3: Brother, God bless you, brother. Thank you.