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Speaker 2: That's home.

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Speaker 1: You say goodbye to a place like that home. Man,

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Speaker 1: it's hard, And every time I stepped there, there's memories.

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Speaker 3: What love is here, what Ralph brought here.

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Speaker 1: It's true Western we are what all.

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Speaker 4: That's why Mark came up with the Saints. Where else

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Speaker 5: Else would you rather be.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps some of the most fun of that are had

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Speaker 1: To go out there and not have a punt score

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Speaker 1: on every possession, that was one of the loudest times

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Speaker 3: Every inch of this place has got a story for us.

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Speaker 1: It's a story put absolute jealous I think it's special

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Speaker 1: then we all have to get on. It happened in

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Speaker 1: that stadium. Welcome to a Friday edition of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: As just about everybody in the seven one six is

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Speaker 1: getting nostalgic about high Mark Stadium, knowing we are just

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Speaker 1: Sunday Bills Jets. As the Bills host the team in

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Speaker 1: the final regular season game that came here for the

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Speaker 1: first regular season game so many years ago, fifty three

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Speaker 1: seasons ago, Bill's Jets. That was the first regular season

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Speaker 1: we will all be there for it, and we will

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Speaker 1: have Steve our rally towels. All fans that attend Sunday's

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Speaker 1: game will receive the ticket Master Ticket Stub rally towel

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Speaker 1: as they enter the stadium at the gates before the game,

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Speaker 1: Ticketmaster left the section row and seat sections blank on

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Speaker 1: these towels so fans can write in where they sat

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Speaker 1: during the game. The final regular season home game at

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Speaker 1: high Mark Stadium and destroyed for years to come in

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Speaker 3: Good idea section row and seat number.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome, Yeah, pretty cool. This week's game against the

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Speaker 1: Jets is presented by high Mark Blue Cross, Blue Shield.

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Speaker 1: High Mark is the official health plan of the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: you didn't hear at this point in time. This week's

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Speaker 1: legends of the game are the one and only Steve

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Speaker 1: Tasker and Thurman Thomas. Legend of the game is presented

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Speaker 1: are gonna have to tag team this thing, right, You've

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Speaker 1: got it before, haven't you done it with before? That? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Medicine head coach Sean McDermott declared Terrell Bernard, Da Kwon Jones,

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Speaker 7: Quick, but I got three things to say. One of

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Speaker 5: don't even care. Number Two, I know the CEO of

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Speaker 5: And number three, my two favorite games that I can

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Speaker 5: And the last thing, Steve, this is I want to

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Speaker 3: All right, thanks Mike Man, You're right. That is crazy,

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Speaker 1: I still think that's the longest offensive touchdown ever scored

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Speaker 3: That's that's good stuff. And congratulations on your marriage. That's awesome.

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Speaker 8: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. And I just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll probably say it a million times over this weekend.

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Speaker 1: It was fun while it lasted. You know, it's fun

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Speaker 9: Hey, Chris, Hey, Steve.

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Speaker 10: I appreciate you guys. Yeah, I'll try to be quick,

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Speaker 10: I think Chris, you probably don't remember this. It's probably

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Speaker 9: In your reporting.

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Speaker 10: Just God helped me a ton. I was able to

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Speaker 10: too late for it now, to celebrate the stadium. Maybe

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Speaker 10: it's like you and Mersh and Gaddy, I mean and Maddie.

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Speaker 10: I'm sorry. Could I get together like the top ten

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Speaker 1: The list might be longer more than ten. Yeah, that

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Speaker 10: Well, hey, I prehear you both so much. I have

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Speaker 1: Thank yeah, thanks, and thanks for those kind words. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Brownie, A lot of people don't know, Brownie, you've

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Speaker 1: Well, covering the team since ninety five five, and then

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Speaker 1: a working professional covering this team and going to games,

437
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Speaker 1: I went to three games as a fan, once with

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Speaker 1: my college buddies, which was the Bills Raiders game in

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Speaker 1: ninety three regular season. You guys lost twenty five twenty four,

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Speaker 1: and then came back and beat him in the divisional

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Speaker 1: playoff four or five weeks later. But they got you

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Speaker 1: on a late fumble or something, and they this it

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Speaker 1: was Raiders Bills. I want to say. It was like

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Speaker 1: December fifth, nineteen ninety three, and they won twenty five

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Speaker 1: twenty four. I was sitting in the end zone, seats

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Speaker 1: in the scoreboard, and then the next experience in the

447
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Speaker 1: stadium was better. You guys clinched the division in ninety five.

448
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Speaker 1: That was also a December game against the Dolphins. David

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Speaker 1: White interception in the four quarter in a twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: game leads to a game winning field goal by Christy

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Speaker 1: at the other end twenty five yards. Bills win twenty

452
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Speaker 1: three to twenty, and you win your last AFC East

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Speaker 1: Division Crown of the nineties, which was the last one

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Speaker 1: before these current jokers started reeling them off right, and

455
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Speaker 1: then I saw some random bills over Colts in overtime sixteen, thirteen,

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Speaker 1: and ninety six. Those are the only three games I

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Speaker 1: ever came to here as a fan. Everything else has

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Speaker 1: been for work, and I have missed a home game

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Speaker 1: since ninety seven.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, like, yeah, A lot of people don't

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Speaker 3: realize how much how much you were a writer before

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Speaker 3: you were.

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Speaker 1: The Yeah, I mean as a radio reporter first, and

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Speaker 1: then when I got hired here, I started, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: was a written reporter.

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Speaker 3: For churning that out for the website, it was yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's you're like me. I mean, you're I've been in

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Speaker 3: the building.

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Speaker 1: Sit blended into the wallpapers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've I've been in the building banging around these

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Speaker 3: hallways for thirty forty nine years. So it's been a minute.

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Speaker 1: We'll take some more phone calls, but when we come back,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have Greg Cosell, senior producer from NFL Films,

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Speaker 1: joining us, and we're gonna we're gonna take a detour

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Speaker 1: with him too, and have him tell us some of

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Speaker 1: his favorite games that he remembers witnessing in this stadium,

477
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Speaker 1: probably more on the TV than in person, but nonetheless

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Speaker 1: we'll get the best from Greg. Next. All right, back

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Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you,

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Speaker 1: and a little bit earlier than normal on a Friday,

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Speaker 1: we welcome in senior producer from NFL Films, Greg Cosel.

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Speaker 1: Greg Cosell's weekly appearance on One Bill's Live, presented by Pepsi.

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Speaker 1: Pepsi is the official soft drink of the Buffalo Bill's

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Speaker 1: Food Deserves. Pepsi. All right, Greg, we got a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a special circumstance here knowing this is gonna

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Speaker 1: be the last game played in this building in all likelihood.

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Speaker 1: I suppose there's some roundabout way, if there's enough upsets

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs, that if the Bills end up being

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Speaker 1: the six or the five seed, they could host a

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Speaker 1: play game, but that's very unlikely. So people are waxing

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Speaker 1: nostalgic up here, as you might imagine, are there any

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Speaker 1: games over the thousands and thousands that you have watched,

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Speaker 1: either on tape or live on television that come to

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Speaker 1: mind for you that you witnessed, you know, in this building.

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Speaker 11: Steve will remember all these because he was on the team,

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Speaker 11: but those are the ones that I tend to remember.

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Speaker 11: The one I remember the most was the AFC Championship

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Speaker 11: game in nineteen ninety one, Steve. That was the fifty

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Speaker 11: one to three game against the Raiders. That that game,

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Speaker 11: I I you know again, because who thinks of a

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Speaker 11: fifty one to three game in.

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Speaker 2: A championship game like that?

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Speaker 11: But that was as dominating a performance as you could

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Speaker 11: get in a championship game. And I just we have

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Speaker 11: such great shots of it because it was a cold day.

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Speaker 11: I think it might have been snowy a little bit

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Speaker 11: if I recall it, certainly, speaking to it better than

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Speaker 11: I can. You were there, but you know, we had

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Speaker 11: such great shots of it with our NFL Films cameraman,

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Speaker 11: And you know that's a game I really remember extremely well.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, well, Greg, I'll just give your heads up.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to call it the AFC Championship game

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Speaker 3: night time. Just say the fifty one to three game.

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Speaker 3: Everybody knows what you're talking about. In this in Western

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Speaker 3: New York. They yeah, they really do. I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: how everybody says. It's the fifty one to three game,

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Speaker 3: It's like Josh's perfect game in the playoffs against the

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Speaker 3: New England. It's like the great comeback game.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 3: They have these names for these games over the years.

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Speaker 3: Because it's such a small community, everybody knows what you're

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Speaker 3: talking about. What do you I mean, what what do

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Speaker 3: you remember about that game in the lead of the

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Speaker 3: fifty one to three game?

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Speaker 11: Well, I mean, look, obviously, you know Buffalo, you know

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Speaker 11: you were on the team. You know it was really good.

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Speaker 11: But you never think of a game being like that

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Speaker 11: in a championship game. I mean, you just don't.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 11: The other things I remember a lot is I remember

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Speaker 11: the Kelley Marino matchups. And I think even that year

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Speaker 11: it might have been Week one. Uh it was you

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Speaker 11: guys beat Miami at you know, one of those great matchups,

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Speaker 11: and I think that was a Thurman Thomas game. I

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Speaker 11: think he had over one hundred yards rushing, one hundred

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Speaker 11: yards receiving. But those those Kelly Marino matchups were always

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Speaker 11: so so good, you know, those were so much fun.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 11: Obviously I was with films then, might go back a

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Speaker 11: long way with films obviously, and back then I'd be

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Speaker 11: working on a lot of shows where I'd be looking

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Speaker 11: at that footage, you know, pretty quickly the next day

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Speaker 11: on a Monday. And you know, those games to me,

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Speaker 11: you know you're dealing with two Hall of Fame quarterbacks,

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Speaker 11: so many great players on both teams.

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Speaker 2: Those games were just so much fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll be interested. I think you would appreciate this. Greg.

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Speaker 1: Just going back to the fifty one to three game

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Speaker 1: real briefly, I mean, Jay Schrader had five picks in

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Speaker 1: that game, Darryl Tally. Darryl Tally had two of them,

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Speaker 1: one of which he returned for a touchdown. He swears

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Speaker 1: to this day that if he finished the game because

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Speaker 1: it got so lopsided they subbed him out late, that

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Speaker 1: he would have had four interceptions in that game, because

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Speaker 1: he claims that they completely identified the two routes they

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Speaker 1: were running out of a certain formation, and he said

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Speaker 1: it was just an in cutting route and so he

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Speaker 1: overplayed it when he saw the look pre snap every time,

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Speaker 1: and that Schrader just kept throwing it. And he said

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Speaker 1: the guy that subbed in for me even got an

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Speaker 1: interception Ray Bentley at the end because he told him,

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Speaker 1: if you see this formation, they're running this pass route,

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Speaker 1: and he jumped in too, right. I know that's kind

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Speaker 1: of that's kind of stuff that you would love.

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Speaker 11: But I love that stuff because you know, to me,

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Speaker 11: that's football. I love that stuff. But I mean that

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Speaker 11: was just such a dominant, dominant performance. I mean it

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Speaker 11: was it was crazy. I just remember we have a

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Speaker 11: great film shot of Jim Kelly, you know, one of

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Speaker 11: those long lands close ups where he's you know, after

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Speaker 11: a play running and I just that sticks in my

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Speaker 11: mind right now. But but you know, although those Bills

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Speaker 11: teams they were you know, they were so much fun.

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Speaker 11: I mean they it was you know, obviously you know,

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Speaker 11: the season's never ended exactly the way you wanted, Steve,

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Speaker 11: but you know with the final game. But those Bills teams, man,

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Speaker 11: they I don't think people understand how hard it is to.

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Speaker 2: Do what you guys did.

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Speaker 11: It's it's it's just it's a shame and never worked out,

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Speaker 11: you know, to win the final one.

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Speaker 2: But that is so hard to do. And those teams,

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Speaker 2: I mean, they really stick in my mind. Oh you

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Speaker 2: know so many great players on those teams.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, and I don't want to

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Speaker 3: put you on the spot. Don't feel bad if you

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Speaker 3: have it because I don't think you've never been here, right?

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Speaker 3: Have you never seen a game in person here?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: It's always you watch every film on you watch every

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Speaker 3: game on film?

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, never been.

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Speaker 11: And there's most stadiums I haven't been to because you know,

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Speaker 11: it's football season, you know.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I've been to.

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Speaker 11: The Super Bowls every year since probably nineteen ninety two,

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Speaker 11: but I haven't been to you know, games on a Sunday,

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Speaker 11: you know, because it's yeah, it doesn't work with my schedule.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it's unbelievable. I mean, obviously seeing it on TV,

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Speaker 2: that's all I have.

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Speaker 3: Well, so I don't I hate to go keep going

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Speaker 3: down this rabbit hole. But no, we keep getting it.

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Speaker 3: We keep getting peeped. We keep people people like us

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Speaker 3: all the time, calling in saying they should go no huddle,

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Speaker 3: the K gun do it again. That explain to people

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Speaker 3: why at this point in the NFL, why that's not happening.

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Speaker 11: Well, I think you know, you don't see a lot

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Speaker 11: of teams do that as a foundation of their of

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Speaker 11: their offense. And you know, one of the things now,

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Speaker 11: because the game is so cyclical and it advances on

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Speaker 11: both sides of the ball, but you know, playing no

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Speaker 11: huddle limits people just think of it from a defensive perspective. Oh,

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Speaker 11: it limits what the defense can do, but it also

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Speaker 11: limits what the offense can do. And you know, I

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Speaker 11: think that that that's something that when teams go no

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Speaker 11: huddle normally in today's NFL, they go no huddle after

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Speaker 11: a good play because what they do is they want

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Speaker 11: to get the defense a little discombobulated and they have

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Speaker 11: maybe two plays or three plays and that's it that

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Speaker 11: they're calling when they go no huddle, So you don't

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Speaker 11: have the full compliment of plays in given situations. And

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Speaker 11: you know, I think from a coaching perspective, coaches are

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Speaker 11: not real comfortable with that. Because they work all week long,

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Speaker 11: they feel really comfortable. I mean, you talk about someone

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Speaker 11: like Kyle Shanahan and he's a master at understanding defenses

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Speaker 11: and he feels that he can beat defenses, so he

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Speaker 11: wants to call plays you know that beat a defense

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Speaker 11: and he anticipates. So it's something you can do sporadically.

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Speaker 11: You know, it's just like the spread everybody, why don't

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Speaker 11: you just spread it out and throw it all around. Well,

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Speaker 11: you know, you got to protect in this league, you know,

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Speaker 11: there's a lot of coaches who believe if it's just

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Speaker 11: a five man o line pass protection that you know,

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Speaker 11: we're going to go after your quarterback and you're going

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Speaker 11: to speed him up, and it's not a comfortable feeling

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Speaker 11: for a quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: As we come to the close of this twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: five regular season, Greg, what do you believe are some

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Speaker 1: of the trends that will gain even more traction going

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Speaker 1: into next season, because you know, as you said earlier,

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Speaker 1: this league is very cyclical, and it already looks like

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00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: NFL defenses are going back to getting bigger at the

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Speaker 1: linebacker position at the second level. To me, that's a

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Speaker 1: trend that I could see continuing into next season. Are

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Speaker 1: there any others that come to mind that you think

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Speaker 1: could really gain some traction here between now in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six.

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Speaker 2: I think there's two things on defense that you're seeing

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Speaker 2: a lot of.

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Speaker 11: Number One, what's happening a ton is changing the picture

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Speaker 11: pre snap to post snap for defenses. They're doing that

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Speaker 11: more than ever. You know, you can't just line up

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Speaker 11: now and say well that's going to be Cover two

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Speaker 11: or that's going to be Cover three. And I actually

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Speaker 11: think Sean McDermott is one of the guys who's very,

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Speaker 11: very good at this. But I think that that's something

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Speaker 11: that we're seeing more and more of. It's becoming pretty

657
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Speaker 11: much foundational for most teams in the league that they

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Speaker 11: change the picture pre snap to post snap, and you know,

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Speaker 11: I think.

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Speaker 2: That that's.

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Speaker 11: I don't want to say it's totally in response to

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Speaker 11: the concept of pure progression pass games, but I think

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Speaker 11: it has a lot to do with it, because the

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Speaker 11: way pure progression pass games are taught is you don't

665
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Speaker 11: really have to know much about the defense. You know,

666
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Speaker 11: maybe you know middle of the open, middle clothes and where's

667
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Speaker 11: my blitze alert? But now all of a sudden, the

668
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Speaker 11: defense is changing and you need to know something about

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Speaker 11: the defense. You know, no quarterback can watch seven guys,

670
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Speaker 11: but he needs to know something about the defense. Because

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Speaker 11: now what happens in pure progression is if number one

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Speaker 11: is not open, you're going to get to number two

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Speaker 11: or number three too late. And in this league, if

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Speaker 11: you're late, you're late. It's a problem. So I think

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Speaker 11: that that's one thing you see a lot of the

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Speaker 11: other thing, you see a ton of becoming bigger and

677
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Speaker 11: bigger in this league is what we call big nickel

678
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Speaker 11: teams playing with three safeties instead of three linebackers. I'm

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Speaker 11: seeing that more and more, and you get these guys

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Speaker 11: like Seattle's and nickimin war. There's a lot of teams

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Speaker 11: that are doing this now. I can't you name them

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Speaker 11: all off the top of my head, but you're seeing

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Speaker 11: it more and more in the league with teams playing

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Speaker 11: big nickel with three safeties. Pretty look the Chargers are

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Speaker 11: a great example of that with Drwin James another team

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Speaker 11: that does that, but I think that's becoming much more

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Speaker 11: common in the league as well.

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Speaker 1: And it's interesting that you mentioned that because a nickel

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Speaker 1: package that has worked pretty well over the past month

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Speaker 1: for Buffalo uses three linebackers with three down linemen and

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Speaker 1: five defensive backs, and the three three five has worked

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Speaker 1: exceptionally well for this Bills team, primarily from a pass

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Speaker 1: rush perspective. They're one of their best pass rushers has

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Speaker 1: lost for the season, Michael Hoyt, and they've tried to

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Speaker 1: replace him with linebackers in their pass rush scheme, and

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Speaker 1: over the past month it is really made opposing quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: supremely indecisive in where they're going with the football. You know,

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Speaker 1: in those situations, what what have you what have you

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Speaker 1: pulled the most, what has been the most telling about

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Speaker 1: the Bills, you know, three three five Nickel package.

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Speaker 11: Well, number one, it gets more speed on the field,

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Speaker 11: and number two, I think it increases the ability to

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Speaker 11: do stunts, multiple stunt concepts that could be a little

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Speaker 11: more confused using for o alignment because we've seen Milano

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Speaker 11: be part of that and you don't you know, now

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Speaker 11: you're not sure exactly where he's coming from because he's

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Speaker 11: not on the line of scrimmage, you know, in a

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Speaker 11: three down stance where he's a d lineman. So you know,

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Speaker 11: we've seen Milano become more of a factor in the

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Speaker 11: past rush in those three three fives. So I think

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Speaker 11: it's just because what you're trying to do, I think anyway,

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Speaker 11: and I'm sure our defensive coach can speak to more

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Speaker 11: reasons than I can, but you know, it just presents

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Speaker 11: a different front look because the bottom line is offensive

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Speaker 11: linemen they're trained that they're going to find the five

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Speaker 11: that they want to block. And if you can change

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Speaker 11: the picture on the five that they want to block

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Speaker 11: and make that picture a little cloudy, you know, Brownie

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Speaker 11: in this league, if you're just cloudy for a millimeter

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Speaker 11: of a second, that's that's enough for the defense to

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Speaker 11: get pressure on the quarterback. So it just clouds the

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Speaker 11: picture as to who's coming and who's not coming, and

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Speaker 11: what kind of pressures could be coming, what kind of

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Speaker 11: stunts could be coming. It just clouds the picture.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this now, as we were on

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Speaker 3: the cusp of the playoffs, Let's set the Jets game

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Speaker 3: aside and think, you know, maybe Josh isn't even gonna play,

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Speaker 3: James Cook may play a little bit, offensive line may sit,

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Speaker 3: all of that stuff. What do you see the Bills,

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Speaker 3: I mean, the pluses and minus as they head into

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Speaker 3: the playoffs. Certainly they found a pretty good recipe here

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Speaker 3: defensively going in as we just talked about the three

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Speaker 3: three five kind of thing that's going on. Where do

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Speaker 3: you see the Bills offense and defense as they head

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Speaker 3: into the postseason.

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Speaker 11: I mean that's maybe Glassamius, you know, and you know

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Speaker 11: how much I love Josh Allen, but I don't think

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Speaker 11: this has been Josh's best year. And I think the offense,

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Speaker 11: you know, the lack of the of having a wide

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Speaker 11: receiver Steve and you know this, you know was your position.

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Speaker 11: You played with great wide receivers when you were in Buffalo.

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Speaker 11: I think the lack of the comfort level in receivers

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Speaker 11: that can win one on one matchups. I mean every

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Speaker 11: year when I go to the Combine and I end up,

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Speaker 11: you know, talking to you know guys at the J W. Murriett,

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Speaker 11: you know, all different coaches, different and position coaches, And

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Speaker 11: the one thing I constantly hear from wide receiver coaches

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Speaker 11: is if you don't have an X receiver that can

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Speaker 11: win one on one, it really limits what you can

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Speaker 11: do on offense. And you know, obviously maybe they thought

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Speaker 11: Kean Coleman would be that guy that has not worked

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Speaker 11: out up to this point.

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Speaker 2: Who knows what the future holds.

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Speaker 11: That's not the conversation now, But they don't have a

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Speaker 11: you know, a guy. And I really like Shakira a lot,

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Speaker 11: but I think Shakier obviously is a is a certain

757
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Speaker 11: kind of receiver. I think he's really good at what

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Speaker 11: he is, but he's not a boundary X. You know,

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Speaker 11: He's not the kind of guy you're going to line

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Speaker 11: up on the outside to win, you know, in three

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Speaker 11: by one sets where he's the single receiver. So I

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Speaker 11: think the fact that they're lacking that places a meaningful

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Speaker 11: limitation on their pass game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Brandon Cooks was encouraging last week stretching the field.

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Speaker 1: At least he's not an ex either necessarily, but at

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Speaker 1: least he kind of stretched the field a bit and

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Speaker 1: put that on tape for future defensive coordinators in the postseason.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully that can loosen some things up in the intermediate

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Speaker 1: areas we'll have to see.

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Speaker 11: And I think, you know one thing I've noticed on tape,

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Speaker 11: and you know, this is one thing I've noticed with

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Speaker 11: Josh is I think he's got to take those sustaining throws.

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Speaker 11: I mean, this is ultimately a sustain you know, you

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Speaker 11: think because of Josh's arm and the fact that his

775
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Speaker 11: arm could probably throw it out of the building. You know,

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Speaker 11: you think that you know you're going to have a

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Speaker 11: vertical pass game, but they don't really have those guys.

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Speaker 11: So now the offense is really built around the run

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Speaker 11: game and sustaining throws, and I think he's got to

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Speaker 11: make it a point to take the sustaining throws. You know,

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Speaker 11: I always used to listen to Tom Brady and he

782
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Speaker 11: even talks about it doing games. Now, obviously Browder, you

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Speaker 11: don't hear that you're doing games, but you know, he

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Speaker 11: always talks about the fact that if it's first and

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Speaker 11: ten and the defense gives you a five yard throw,

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Speaker 11: you got to take the five yard throw. Second of

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Speaker 11: five is pretty good situation to be in, and it

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Speaker 11: certainly is for the Bills, who can run the ball.

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Speaker 11: You know, it's a sustaining offense more than a big playoffense,

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Speaker 11: even though they do make big plays. I'm sure the

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Speaker 11: stats reflect that, but they make big plays a different way.

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Speaker 11: They don't make big plays by throwing the ball at

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Speaker 11: the intermediate and vertical levels. So you know, I think

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Speaker 11: you've got to take those throws and just keep your

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Speaker 11: offense moving.

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Speaker 1: Greg, thanks as always for the time. We'll catch up

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Speaker 1: with you for playoffs next week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing how it plays out.

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Speaker 2: Should be a lot of fun, guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be great.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Greg.

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Speaker 1: Your Car's best defense. It's James Cook and the league

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Speaker 1: rushing type. Will he get it? He's got a forty

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Speaker 1: seven yard lead on Jonathan Taylor. Taylor playing against the

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans, one of the best run defenses in football,

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Speaker 1: so James might get a little more help than he

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Speaker 1: might against some other team. And they have the benefit, Steve,

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Speaker 1: of knowing what Jonathan Taylor racks up because the Colts

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Speaker 1: are playing at one. Bills don't play until four to

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Speaker 1: twenty five, so they'll have the exact number of yards

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Speaker 1: needed for James to at least go into Sunday Night

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Speaker 1: Football as the league's leading rusher.

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Speaker 3: That's right, and don't think that, because think about it.

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Speaker 3: It really is something you can't control, obviously, but if

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Speaker 3: it's within the realm of possibility, unless James goes out

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Speaker 3: snaps off one hundred and eighty yards and is it's

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Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty yards that Derreck Henry is behind him.

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Speaker 3: You know that the Baltimore Ravens are going to try

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Speaker 3: and get it for Derrick Henry against the Steelers in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we don't know what Lamar is gonna look

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Speaker 1: like either. If he's still not right Derrick.

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Speaker 3: He's saying he's gonna play now Lamar is, But you're

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Speaker 3: right right that they're gonna.

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Speaker 1: Be well after he ran for two hundred last week,

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Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you go back to that way?

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Speaker 3: Exactly exactly, And it's something they've been fairly and I

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Speaker 3: think fairly criticized for, is forgetting about Derrick Henry late

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Speaker 3: in games. And they've got a reputation and with tangible

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Speaker 3: evidence that they blow a lot of big leads late

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Speaker 3: and give up games. Look at Week one here in

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Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills fans know that that has been there, Achilles

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Speaker 3: Heel or at least a defining trait of the Lamar

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Speaker 3: Jackson era in Baltimore. You remember three or four years

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Speaker 3: ago in Miami, they were thumping Miami horribly and gave

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Speaker 3: and just gave it away like four long touchdown passes.

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Speaker 3: Just so that's been their problem, and one of the

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Speaker 3: criticisms during that has been their failure to lean on

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Speaker 3: Derrick Henry late.

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Speaker 1: In these games.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he's sitting on the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they get into two mini mode and he's

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Speaker 1: not on the field. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Last week they said forget it, left him in there,

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Speaker 3: albeit because probably they had their backup quarterback in you

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Speaker 3: know a little and need a little veteran presence, and

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Speaker 3: Derrick Henry just takes over the game, puts it away.

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Speaker 1: They win. What are you doing? Yeah, it's something yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So you can't control that game, but you can control

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Speaker 1: what you might need based on how Jonathan Taylor does

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Speaker 1: at one o'clock against the Texans. So that's collision course

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Speaker 1: Miran and Richmond, what's up Iron.

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Speaker 9: Hi, gentlemen, thanks for taking my call, can you hear me?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 9: Oh, I hope you guys have a happy in a year.

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Speaker 9: I don't have any, unfortunately, have any memories of Hallmark Stadium.

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Speaker 9: If I do, have two football relate questions if I may.

869
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 9: The first one is what kind of impact would the

870
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 9: performance of backups have on their future playing time. For example,

871
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 9: if Max Harrison has a really good game today, I

872
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 9: mean on Sunday, do you think he'll see more playing

873
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 9: time during the playoffs and that goes for any kind

874
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 9: of position group or would the coach just kind of

875
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 9: know that that they're playing uninspired Jets team and that

876
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 9: may not care a lot of weight. The second question

877
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 9: I have is in regards to Kean Coleman. I'm assuming

878
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 9: he's going to address on Sunday, what do you all

879
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 9: think about moving him inside to the slot receiver position

880
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 9: to see if they can get more production out of

881
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 9: them that way and kind of put some production on

882
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 9: tape for potentially future teams to see.

883
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've talked about moving Key on to the slot

884
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 1: since October because he has experience lining up there from

885
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: his days at Florida State. And you know, there are

886
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: some teams that like lining up a big target inside

887
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: because you usually the slot corner is of smaller stature.

888
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: They're more of a you know, quick twitchy, smaller change

889
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: of direction type defensive back, and if you put a

890
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: big six, two sixty three guy in there, you have

891
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: a size advantage that you can exploit. We haven't seen that.

892
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: I do expect Keon to be up this week, and

893
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: I expect him to be motivated to show up and

894
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: show out after having a two week layoff as an

895
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: as a healthy scratch.

896
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 3: So yeah, as for your question about how does this

897
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 3: change the rotation? Does this game with somebody comes out

898
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 3: and explodes in this game, does it change them going forward?

899
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 3: There's a lot in that question. I'm sure they're always

900
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 3: looking to find new ways to have players help them win. Right,

901
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 3: So if you have a guy like Keon comes in

902
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 3: and kills it in the slot like you're like a

903
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 3: for your example, or Max Harriston, like you said, comes

904
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 3: in and for whatever reason, Max is playing the slot

905
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 3: instead of an outside corner, and he you know, he

906
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 3: has three interceptions or something like that, all of that

907
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 3: goes into the hopper. Yeah, but they have a real

908
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 3: good handle, I think on what every player is capable

909
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 3: of in in their field on their team now. So

910
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 3: they're probably if there's an ongoing conversation about, well, if

911
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 3: we got into a pinch, we'd make this adjustment because

912
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 3: we think this guy's better here than that guy. You know,

913
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 3: all the things you juggle in that conversation about if

914
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 3: a if a key guy goes down, how are you

915
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 3: going to cover that void? And you do it with

916
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 3: two or three guys?

917
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: Uh?

918
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 3: And finding out about players in situations like this week

919
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,479
Speaker 3: eighteen game, like a Max Harrison all of a sudden,

920
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 3: you find out Max can play slot or play you

921
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 3: know whatever, safety or nickel or whatever you want to

922
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 3: call it, or key on.

923
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: Lay outside, so you can put Tredavious White on a

924
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 1: pass catching tight end.

925
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 3: Or Keon's in the slot, or Keon can be you

926
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 3: know the whatever. Yes, all of that is information that

927
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 3: tells them more about what they can ask to their players,

928
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 3: and that going forward, now after four months of this,

929
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 3: four and a half months of this, they kind of

930
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 3: know all this stuff, but to see it proved on

931
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 3: the field, even if it's a and if it's what

932
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 3: we say, it's a bad Jets team, doesn't matter. It's

933
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 3: an NFL team that that's playing and trying to win.

934
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 3: You're getting some live reps. And if the guy shows

935
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 3: up and does it, it gives you confidence. And he

936
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 3: knows what he's supposed to be doing. Now, whether he

937
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 3: can do it against a different matchup is another story,

938
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 3: but that guy knows the assignment right. So, yeah, that

939
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 3: kind of performance in a week eighteen game like this

940
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 3: can help define the narrative about a guy and how

941
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 3: they can use him going forward in the playoffs. That

942
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 3: doesn't mean they're gonna throw everything they've learned in the

943
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 3: last four and a half months out the window, but

944
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 3: it does mean it tells them a little something more

945
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 3: that they may have up their sleeve that they can

946
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 3: throw out there in a given moment that if they

947
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 3: feel the.

948
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 1: Need, got to take a break here when we come back.

949
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: Our number two begins with a couple of Hall of famers,

950
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly, Dan Marino gonna join us with some of

951
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: their best memories from high Mark Stadium and they're head

952
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: to head matchups just across the parking lot from us

953
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: here on One Bills Live presented by Colida Health. It's

954
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:57,479
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio, The One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

955
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

956
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: with you and in this the final game coming up

957
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: this weekend at high Mark Stadium, Bill's Jets. We thought

958
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: we'd roll in a couple of people that you know

959
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: tangled and tussled a few times in this stadium two

960
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: Hall of famers. As a matter of fact, Hall of

961
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,919
Speaker 1: Fame quarterbacks Dan Marino and Jim Kelly joining us here

962
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: who went head to head in many of the matchups

963
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: in high Mark Stadium. Guys, thanks for making the time

964
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: for us. Appreciate it. Dan, I want to start with you,

965
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,240
Speaker 1: because this is a stadium that wasn't all that friendly

966
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,919
Speaker 1: to you in your career. What flashes in your head

967
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: when somebody tells you about what was formerly called rich

968
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: Stadium and now hi Mark Stadium.

969
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 13: So I mean for me in my career, actually when

970
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 13: we played up there early, when my you know, rookie

971
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 13: few years in whatever, I mean, we really we dominated

972
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 13: up there and then Jim and Bruce and the boys, Steve,

973
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 13: they all kind of come in and eventually and they

974
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 13: start on our butt there for a long time. And

975
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 13: that's the kind of memory I had. I mean, just

976
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 13: the fans were always is I would say, probably the

977
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 13: toughest place to play in the league in a in

978
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 13: a in a with the weather and all the situation

979
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 13: and how the fans are, it was really tough to

980
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 13: play there. So I mean I enjoyed the competition of it,

981
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 13: but like my memories weren't great. And then having Bruce

982
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 13: Smith on my left side over there, always coming at me,

983
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 13: that was, uh, you know that you always had to

984
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 13: understand that possibility in a game where he could rip

985
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 13: your head off.

986
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jim, and you, Jim, you watched and you and

987
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 3: Dan and I knew you guys have been friends for

988
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 3: decades now, and you guys competed against each other. You

989
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 3: had a lot of respect for each other. Jim, what

990
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 3: did you think? I mean, you knew Miami was coming up,

991
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 3: with Don Shula and the whole crew coming up. You

992
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 3: knew it was going to be a dog fight every game.

993
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 3: But nevertheless, the Bills fans hated Miami like nobody else.

994
00:51:58,640 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 4: There's no doubt about it.

995
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 14: I mean, you said pretty much right on because every time,

996
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 14: you know, when that season came on and when the

997
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 14: schedule came out, And I'm sure you thought the same thing, Steve,

998
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 14: that the old's looking when you played the Dolphins.

999
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 4: You hope you played the Dolphins in.

1000
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 14: The cool when it was cool, but you also hope

1001
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 14: that they came up and played in Buffalo in the cold.

1002
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 14: But we knew going into the season every single year

1003
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 14: from the year I got there in nineteen eighty six,

1004
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 14: so I left that it was gonna be a battle

1005
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 14: because of course, uh, Dan, on the other sidelines, you

1006
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 14: knew that you were gonna have to limit the.

1007
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 4: Mount of turnovers you had.

1008
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 14: You knew you were gonna have to score points because

1009
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 14: you knew that they were a machine. They had Duper

1010
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 14: and Clayton, they had guys out there that you know,

1011
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 14: could touch the football. They scored points a lot. So

1012
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 14: for us, you know, of course the old came down

1013
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 14: to Marino, Kelly, Shula, Levy. I mean, that's just the

1014
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 14: way it was all the time. And then of course

1015
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 14: I was done God every day that had number seventy

1016
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 14: eight on my team that he wasn't rushing me, that

1017
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 14: he was rushing a number thirteen all the time. But yeah,

1018
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 14: what do you knew it was gonna be competition each

1019
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 14: and every not only would that would play them, but

1020
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 14: throughout that year when it came down to the end

1021
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 14: of the year, when you knew it was gonna be

1022
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 14: hopefield with bands going to either the Dolphins or to build.

1023
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, and for division rivals, Dan, you guys squeared off,

1024
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: you know a few times in the playoffs as well, yes,

1025
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people remember the forty four

1026
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: to thirty four shootout up here in January ninety one.

1027
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: I know it's a while back, the memories might be

1028
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: a little fuzzy, but I mean, do you guys, what

1029
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: was the plan when you had to come up here

1030
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: and deal with that crowd noise that you spoke of

1031
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: in addition to you know, a guy like Bruce. I

1032
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 1: mean you had a nice left tackling you know, rich

1033
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: don't get it wrong, but a lot yes, yeah, that's

1034
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: the Bruce.

1035
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 13: Yeah, and which I felt like did a really good

1036
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,439
Speaker 13: job against Bruce most most of the time.

1037
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 2: He really did.

1038
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 13: You know that game in particular the one because I

1039
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 13: think it snowed like five six inches during the game.

1040
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 6: Uh.

1041
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 13: I remember I always used to say when it snows,

1042
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 13: you got to throw the football because you can't get

1043
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 13: a pass rush. The dbs can't move, you know, you

1044
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 13: know where you're going, and uh, you know, I remember

1045
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 13: we threw both of us, Jim, Jim and I threw

1046
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 13: for a lot of yards in that game. But the

1047
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 13: one thing was the one touchdown I remember is I

1048
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 13: was on the goal line and I actually ran a

1049
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 13: bootleg and scored because.

1050
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 2: If you I did. Look, why why are you laughing? Jim?

1051
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 13: Yeah, the score touchdown in that one. But that was

1052
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 13: a great game. And uh but in general, you know,

1053
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 13: going up there, you had to deal with the crowd noise,

1054
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 13: and it was fun competition. Uh but you know, I

1055
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 13: love the competition. And I do remember, Jim, when you know,

1056
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 13: way back when you guys first start beating us and

1057
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 13: you beat us down at Joe Robbie.

1058
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 2: It was at the end of the.

1059
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 13: Game, and you brought us, you brought the bills, you

1060
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 13: brought your offense back on a on a like a

1061
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 13: last minute drive and won that game. And we were ahead,

1062
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 13: you know, yeah most of the game. And after that

1063
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 13: that's when you guys started, you know, to beat us

1064
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 13: pretty consistently.

1065
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 4: That's pretty good you have. I think the nineteen eighty nine.

1066
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 3: Season, first of all, first played.

1067
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 4: In Miami, and Thurman said the best.

1068
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 14: He said, Jim had to run like five yards and

1069
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 14: he had had to get a sun dial out for

1070
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 14: the time. It took him across your goal line. I know, Hey,

1071
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 14: that's all it took. It didn't matter. I got across

1072
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 14: your goal line, that's all it mattered. But yeah, that

1073
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 14: was one that really definitely, Dan, you said right, It

1074
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 14: propelled us from the bickering bills to well, you know

1075
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 14: what we have to get done into that nineteen ninety season.

1076
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 14: Even though we played pretty well in the eighty nine,

1077
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 14: we just didn't play up to our park. But nineteen

1078
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 14: nineties what started off the run that we had, and

1079
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 14: of course Marvel Levy allowed me to call the plays

1080
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 14: and do that know how to quit page offense. So

1081
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 14: that to me was a big changing point, and not

1082
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 14: only the rivalry I had with you, Dan, but the

1083
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 14: rivalry we had with the AFC and being able to

1084
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 14: enjoy running that style of offense and being able to

1085
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 14: call the plays.

1086
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 3: Dan, you had to I might give you credit.

1087
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 13: I give you credit because you called your own plays,

1088
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 13: but you only had like five.

1089
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 3: Of them, right, that's right? Hey, Dan, you know what

1090
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 3: to say that?

1091
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 2: I had to say.

1092
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, I know you had to say because you're

1093
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 14: so used to hearing Tasker say that. But the thing is,

1094
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 14: in reality, we bring in like fifteen twenty plays.

1095
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, we didn't have a whole playbook.

1096
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 14: I mean we did to a certain point, but I

1097
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,760
Speaker 14: knew were to put players. I knew the four mats

1098
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 14: that what you had to have. It wasn't like we

1099
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 14: were in the shame playing the shame formation on that.

1100
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 14: I know you're being typical Marino or called Tasker junior.

1101
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 3: All right, I gotta tell you though, So Dan, you

1102
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 3: played yet an incredibly long and productive career. Obviously your

1103
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 3: first ballot Hall of Fame guy, and probably and there's

1104
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 3: probably other stadiums like it, but you coming up to

1105
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 3: High Mark, you probably played in this stadium as much

1106
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 3: as any other quarterback other than a home than a

1107
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills quarterback. You probably played in more games in

1108
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 3: this stadium just about any other visiting quarterback ever. And

1109
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 3: it and you know, so you had to be really

1110
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 3: familiar with the locker room, with a hotel, the whole thing.

1111
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 3: This happened to be. I mean just had to be

1112
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 3: like another day at the office for you coming up

1113
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 3: to this joint.

1114
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 13: Well, you know what, I actually enjoyed it. But at

1115
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 13: the same time, you know, it was you knew you

1116
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 13: were coming in for a tough road no matter what,

1117
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 13: just with the crowd, noise, with the play. You know,

1118
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 13: obviously the Bills were so good for so long and

1119
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 13: those all those years, and I always felt like we

1120
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 13: we couldn't get kind of past you guys, because we

1121
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 13: could have got to another couple of Super Bowls. I

1122
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 13: felt like we could have if it wasn't for you,

1123
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 13: Jim and everybody else and Steve and the whole team.

1124
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 13: But you know, the one thing I will say, I

1125
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 13: used to enjoy about going up there, and and it's

1126
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 13: a blessing because you know my dad, you know, growing

1127
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 13: up in Pittsburgh, him and his buddies, they would drive

1128
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 13: up to see the game. They come up either the

1129
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 13: morning or the night before, and it was always a tradition,

1130
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 13: you know. So I got to see them and uh

1131
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 13: playing the game and sometimes you know, we won, you know,

1132
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 13: we probably lost more than we won. And you know

1133
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 13: that thing is that's the one thing I really you

1134
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 13: know now kind of getting emotional thinking about my dad

1135
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 13: coming up there, and you know now that he's gone,

1136
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 13: and that was something that always remembered being very special

1137
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 13: for me.

1138
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I don't mean, you know, I'm just going

1139
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 4: to add on to that.

1140
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 14: So Dan, I know, I grew up also in the

1141
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 14: Pittsburgh area and my mom and dad would come up

1142
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 14: and I did it because those are times where your

1143
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 14: mom and dad you know that are getting older and

1144
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 14: they can only travel so many so far. But when

1145
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 14: you got that three hour ride, which my mom and

1146
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 14: dad had the same with your parents, Dan, that was

1147
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 14: those where awesome times. You're able to enjoy what you

1148
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 14: had enjoy the day before the game and the days

1149
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 14: after the game, and being able to you know, enjoy

1150
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 14: that time spent with them because as we all well know,

1151
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 14: they're all in heaven now and looking down on us.

1152
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 14: But we had some fun, you know, having those games

1153
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 14: at rich Stadium or High March Stadium.

1154
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, guys, did your did your parents

1155
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,959
Speaker 1: ever get a chance to fratternize with one another? Maybe

1156
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: not during the season, but you know, knowing that you

1157
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: guys were friends, did they kind of commiserate it all together,

1158
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: have time to meet up with one another?

1159
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 13: I think, Jim, I think at like at the stadium

1160
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 13: sometimes after games and stuff. Yeah, your dad and my

1161
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 13: dad would you know, and would always visit after the games,

1162
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 13: you know, and the you know the where a lot

1163
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 13: of are the tunnel right there. Yeah, so yeah, for

1164
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 13: sure there. I mean when we grew up, we actually

1165
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 13: lived in I lived in the city. Jim lived a

1166
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,919
Speaker 13: little further out outside the city, so we didn't really

1167
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 13: know each other younger in high school, but then you know,

1168
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 13: as college started, that's when we got to know each

1169
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 13: other and it was it was, uh yeah, special relationship.

1170
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 2: Man, I love I love this guy.

1171
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this too, because you let me.

1172
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 3: You guys, because you were friends and Jim, you knows

1173
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 3: you both have events. You know, because you're big. You know,

1174
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 3: you're you're big parts of the community. You're part of

1175
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 3: the fabric of the heritage of people who grew up

1176
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 3: in South Florida. Dan, You're you're iconic down there. Jim,

1177
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 3: You're just the same way here in Buffalo. You have

1178
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 3: charity events, and you guys go back and forth to

1179
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 3: each other's events pretty much on a regular base. I know, Dan,

1180
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 3: there was decades where you never missed Jim's tournament.

1181
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: Did Jim?

1182
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 3: Same thing with you and Dan, you you almost turned

1183
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 3: into kind of like a fellow teammate. In our off season.

1184
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 3: You showed up at Jim's thing and we and back

1185
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 3: in the day before cell phones, we fraternized quite a bit.

1186
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 3: At Jim's golf tournament. You became and you know, maybe

1187
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 3: the Bills players more than any other busted your chops

1188
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 3: like your own teammates did up here in Buffalo. Do

1189
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 3: you ever feel like, you know, there was more welcoming

1190
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 3: in the off season with the players at Jim's tournaments,

1191
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 3: and you got a chance to fraternize with fans. You

1192
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 3: became kind of almost part of our crew in the

1193
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 3: off season up here in Buffalo. Is that true?

1194
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt, Steve.

1195
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 13: You know, I got to have an opportunity to come

1196
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 13: to Jim's tournament. He does has done so much for

1197
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 13: you know, Buffalo and the area there and his charity.

1198
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 13: And I always loved coming, and you know I did it.

1199
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 13: I don't think I missed a tournament for I don't know,

1200
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 13: twenty years or more.

1201
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 2: And it was always fun and getting along.

1202
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 13: I mean, you know, I remember, like there's like, for example,

1203
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 13: Darryl Talley for example, right, Darryl and I played against

1204
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 13: each other four times in college, you know, we pit

1205
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 13: West Virginia, and then I bet you we played against

1206
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 13: each other twenty or more times you know in the

1207
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 13: pros at least. Right, So like he played fifteen years,

1208
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 13: I played seventeen. He played for a couple in Atlanta.

1209
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 13: So you know, those kind of relationships you have and

1210
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 13: just the competition of it is fantastic. And I would

1211
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 13: love to come up. I'd love coming up to Buffalo.

1212
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 13: I tell you know, I you know, I think I

1213
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 13: told this to Hu Jim one time. Is everybody there

1214
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 13: they love me every day of the week, but they

1215
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 13: hate me on Sundays.

1216
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 4: Let's say you get it right on.

1217
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 14: And the thing is about those days back then when

1218
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 14: you rewind the take is I had my Dolph term,

1219
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 14: you had, George Elway had his, Bernie Kojar had his,

1220
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 14: and then there's boomer of shot actually, Jim Everett. I mean,

1221
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 14: I can go on and on on because you come

1222
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 14: to mind, I'll go to yours. And that was pretty

1223
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 14: much back in the day when we were all single.

1224
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 14: None of us had, you know, wives or kids. So

1225
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 14: we had a good good time. We were traveling each

1226
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 14: other's and once we got there, we knew that what

1227
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 14: we did at that tournament was making a difference for

1228
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 14: so many kids out there that maybe their dreams didn't

1229
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 14: weren't going to come true. But the thing is what

1230
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 14: what he did away from the drid ron, away from

1231
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 14: that football field, we were difference makers. And Dan, you

1232
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 14: still continue to do that down there in Miami. I

1233
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,479
Speaker 14: love going down I know that we get to see

1234
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 14: each other every every year a couple of times. But

1235
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 14: the bottom line is, once we're removed from football, we

1236
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 14: have families now, but we also understand and you have

1237
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 14: you had a Michael and you know with autism, and

1238
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 14: then of course I had a son with uh krab

1239
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 14: luco dystrophe. But wouldn't be a difference maker for so

1240
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 14: many people out there. And Dan, you've been doing that

1241
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 14: for a year in and year, not only in Miami

1242
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 14: but throughout the country, especially right here in Buffalo.

1243
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 4: New York.

1244
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 13: Well, thank you, Jim. That's my man. You're making me emotional, dudes.

1245
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people are gonna be emotional,

1246
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 1: you know, with this game because much like you guys have,

1247
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 1: you know, kind of shared one another's lives together as friends,

1248
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 1: you know, growing up as young professionals and now having families, kids, grandkids.

1249
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 1: There's a lot of there's a lot of fans that

1250
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 1: are going to be in this stadium that have spent decades, generations,

1251
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:39,959
Speaker 1: you know, handing down season tickets and that kind of stuff.

1252
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 1: That's all gonna come to an end. Jim, Dan made

1253
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 1: it pretty clear. Bruce Smith was the guy. He really

1254
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of fun facing every time that

1255
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 1: the Bills and the Dolphins matched up. Was there another guy?

1256
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: Was there a guy on the other side of the

1257
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 1: ball for the Dolphins that you least like facing in

1258
01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 1: those matchups over the years.

1259
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 14: I just like Tom Oliver Doddie, the defensive coordinator. Wow,

1260
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 14: I had to say Tom was I'm.

1261
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 2: Not sure I liked him that much.

1262
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 14: No, to be honest, there were so many guys that

1263
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 14: I know. Zach Thomas what he does now. He tells

1264
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 14: everybody that his first two interceptions were against me, and

1265
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:29,919
Speaker 14: now he's in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. And

1266
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 14: every time I see me, thanks me, I know for

1267
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 14: what he does for help me get into the Hall

1268
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 14: of Fame. Because my first two interceptions were against you,

1269
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 14: I'm like, oh boy, but no, you know what the

1270
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 14: thing is, well, do you all know? I mean, there's

1271
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 14: individuals that you go against that you'll remember from the

1272
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 14: time you started. Mine guy and he was going to

1273
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 14: Dolphin As a matter of fact, he was the New

1274
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 14: York Jets, but it was Joe Flecko.

1275
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 4: That's my dog going nuts.

1276
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 14: The wild guys here Dadway.

1277
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 13: Well, yeah, at least you're not doing it, you're paying

1278
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 13: someone to do it. Yeah, well, of course I'm not

1279
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 13: going I thought doing all that stuff.

1280
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 4: So I got on here my uh my cream guy.

1281
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 4: So you know that junior man.

1282
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 14: He's back in Pennsylvania or somebody somewhere.

1283
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 3: So listen. So you guys, you're both Hall of Fame quarterbacks,

1284
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 3: first ballot guys. And he also played for first ballot

1285
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame head coaches. And it's common, you know,

1286
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 3: how you dredge up some passion for these games you

1287
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 3: try and want to compete hard against them. The thing

1288
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 3: that happened to me, it was easy to hate Don

1289
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 3: Shula up here in Buffalo until I got a chance

1290
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 3: dan once in my career to play for Don in

1291
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 3: a Pro Bowl. Him and his staff, Tomi Levadatti, Mike Westoff,

1292
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 3: some of the guys on that staff, And I got

1293
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 3: a chance to play for Don, who's the winningest coach

1294
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 3: in NFL history, And uh uh, I just got to

1295
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Speaker 3: tell you. After I'm met and played for him for

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Speaker 3: a week in Honolulu, man, I had a newfound respect

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Speaker 3: and love for the guy, and I know you do

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Speaker 3: as well. And he and Marv need to be inserted

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Speaker 3: into this conversation as well. Give us some few thoughts

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Speaker 3: on those two head coaches.

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Speaker 2: Dan, you want to go first, Jim or go ahead?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, coming in as a young quarterback, as

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Speaker 13: a young person just trying to be the best you

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Speaker 13: can be, he was perfect for me. He really was

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Speaker 13: because he challenged me early. And I remember telling him

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Speaker 13: telling me that I want you to come here as

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Speaker 13: a rookie and think you're going to start right away,

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Speaker 13: and I want you to learn the playbook. And then

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Speaker 13: the one thing I thought was genius with him is

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Speaker 13: he he made me call all my own plays in

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Speaker 13: practice and then in the exhibition games somewhat. And that

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Speaker 13: was something that made me. It was a challenging thing

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Speaker 13: that made me work so much harder and study so

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Speaker 13: much harder. And today he'll think it was it was genius,

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Speaker 13: you know. And it just made me develop so much quicker.

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Speaker 13: And then he was just you know, he was solid

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Speaker 13: all the time. You could you can count on him

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Speaker 13: for anything you want. He was a great example. His

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Speaker 13: his office, his door was always open. He was a

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Speaker 13: great communicator, and he was competitive too, and he he

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Speaker 13: didn't and and he you know. He he was a

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Speaker 13: guy that you know, would make you want to play

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Speaker 13: hard for him, you know, And there's a lot of times,

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Speaker 13: you know, you know, maybe even to today's game that

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Speaker 13: the young kids that are playing now, it's not that

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Speaker 13: way all the time. So he was special for me

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Speaker 13: and uh, you know, God bless him, and uh definitely,

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Speaker 13: Uh it was great for my career, especially younger when

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Speaker 13: I first started.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jim, talk to us a little bit about Marv.

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Speaker 14: Well, there's there's so many things you when you think

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Speaker 14: about coach and number one uh as Dan, I don't

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Speaker 14: know whether you know this or not, but Coach are

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Speaker 14: now one hundred years old when celebrated his birthday at

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Speaker 14: the Pro Football Hall of Fame this year turned one

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Speaker 14: hundred years old. But I remember when he first got here,

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Speaker 14: Steve as you well know too. His first game was

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Speaker 14: your first game also, And I just know that when

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Speaker 14: we became a team.

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Speaker 4: We knew what we had to do. At the beginning,

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Speaker 4: we did. We had a lot of egos on our team.

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Speaker 14: We had Bruce and Thurm and myself Andrey Daryl. We

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Speaker 14: got a lot of egos until we put them to

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Speaker 14: the side.

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Speaker 4: We're just going to be an average football team, and coach.

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Speaker 14: Levy was one of those guys that was able to

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Speaker 14: let us be ourselves. We were, I mean, once we

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Speaker 14: left the football field, we had fun. But Mark knew,

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Speaker 14: and he stated this many times, he's never been around

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Speaker 14: a group of guys that practiced away what he did

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Speaker 14: when we were on the football field. Wouldn't practice harder,

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Speaker 14: and we stayed focused when we left. That was up

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Speaker 14: to us, but we knew had to come together in

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Speaker 14: order to be able to achieve the goals that we

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Speaker 14: all want it and for me personally, as Steve knows this,

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Speaker 14: for a head coach to go ahead say the offense

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Speaker 14: is yours, go with it.

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Speaker 4: And the thing is when you went with the know

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Speaker 4: how to offense.

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Speaker 14: I told all the plays until it got to the

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Speaker 14: short yard and goal line, and then Mark called the plays.

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Speaker 14: But he allowed me, and he put his job security

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Speaker 14: on the line, allow me to call the place that

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Speaker 14: if we screwed up, it wasn't many people with your.

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Speaker 4: Finger, it's up for me.

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Speaker 14: So I've been very blessed to have a guy like that,

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Speaker 14: not only as a coach, for the guy. As Dan

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01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 14: said about Coach Shula, the door was always open if you.

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Speaker 4: Had anything you needed to talk to him about, and

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Speaker 4: he was right there.

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Speaker 14: And I wear that dull jacket because of Marv Levy

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Speaker 14: without a doubt.

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Speaker 4: And I still love the guy.

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Speaker 14: Would would I email him all the time, and uh

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Speaker 14: we still enjoyed times together each and every year. So

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01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 14: we've both been blessed not only with Hall of Fame

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Speaker 14: coaches on the field, but away from the field.

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Speaker 1: All show guys, thanks so much for the time. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Uh, kind of stoking up some memories as

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Speaker 1: this building gets closed, you know, in the not too

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01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 1: distant future here. Thanks for sharing some of the memories

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01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 1: you guys had his competitors against one another. We really

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Speaker 1: appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Dan Jim, thanks so.

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01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 1: Much for you guys.

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Speaker 13: One other thing there absolutely Pro Bowl that you were there.

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Speaker 13: I think you were the MVP of that game right

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01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 13: then you blocked that chick.

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Speaker 3: And running back right, that's right, Yeah, made four tackles.

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Speaker 2: Shula owes me won the game for us in that

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Speaker 2: Pro Bowl. Sula owes me, yes, yes, yeah, he owes you.

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01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 14: That Fame wars right and gold jacket we were we

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01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 14: were making them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that that game. We won the game and it

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01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 3: didn't even pay for a long weekend in Honolulu.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, that's true.

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Speaker 13: I just had to say that because I remember that distinctly. Guys,

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Speaker 13: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate it, all right, Jim, love you man.

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Speaker 1: All right. So a nice little conversation with a couple

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01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 1: of Hall of Fame quarterbacks. That's always good for the show.

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Speaker 1: So we appreciate the time that Jim and Dan gave us,

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01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 1: and uh thought that you would enjoy it as well,

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01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 1: So hopefully you enjoy them going down memory lane a

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01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 1: little bit of all those classic matchups between Jim and

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01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 1: Dan were pretty special. We're up against the clock. Got

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Speaker 1: to take a break here, but when we come back,

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01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 1: we'll try to get to some phone calls. We also

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01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 1: have to put out the call for the tailgate tag

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Speaker 1: along and see what's on your menu for the final

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01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 1: home game if you're tailgating on Sunday, that's coming up

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01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 1: next here on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 6: Stay with us.

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Speaker 1: Well, it is time here on One Bill's Live for

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Speaker 1: as we tell you, hit us up on Twitter or X.

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Speaker 1: If you're going to be at this weekend's Bill's Home game,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, myself and Wegmans could make a surprise visit

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01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:44,680
Speaker 1: to your tailgate. So let's see what you've got on

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01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:49,759
Speaker 1: the menu this week. Dan says, stop buy for our wings.

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01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 1: We soak him in chavettas and we mix some with

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01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 1: a hot barbecue mix and throw them back on the

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Speaker 1: charcoal grill. Sounds pretty dang good to me tell you.

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Speaker 1: I do like char on a chicken wing. Where do

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01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 1: you come down?

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Speaker 3: I'm all about it. Yeah, there's a countless waste to

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Speaker 3: prepare them. They can all be great if you do

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01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 3: it right.

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Speaker 1: You know, I really like a little char on there

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01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:13,719
Speaker 1: because it puts a little crunch out there on the texture.

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01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 3: I do like crunch, no question about it.

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01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 1: But I mean I'll eat a regular wing, but charred

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01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 1: wings are good. It gives you a little something next.

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01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 3: And everybody's got their own.

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01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,679
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I've never had one soaked in chivettas

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01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:27,679
Speaker 1: that sounds. I haven't either, but at least I don't

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01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 1: think I have. Maybe I've had quite Sometimes you do

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01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 1: eat so fast you don't even know what's on your palate.

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01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 1: John Says made the fifteen hour drive from Arkansas waiting

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01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 1: to get into the stadium to help shovel. Game day

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01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 1: will be at the Hammer Lots, starting with Southern style

1447
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 1: biscuits and sausage, gravy, corned beef, hash and eggs. Lunch

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01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 1: will be my take on the New York chopped cheese.

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01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 1: Half pound of Angus beef, seared and diced on the

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01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:02,759
Speaker 1: flat top, mixed with American cheese, stuffed into a fresh blillo, rolled,

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01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:05,719
Speaker 1: garnished with all the goodies, wearing my eighty nine Taskers

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01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 1: jersey like always Go Bills Arkansaw Roadie. Fifteen hours, dude,

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01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,520
Speaker 1: you've got you've got respect.

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01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 3: Man, that's fifteen hour haul. I get it now. Doing

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01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 3: that doing that for the last game in high Mark, Okay,

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01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 3: you know now, if you were doing that for Week

1457
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:28,719
Speaker 3: one in twenty twelve, better, But yeah, this one for sure,

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01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 3: that's awesome, awesome effort.

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01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:32,640
Speaker 1: Sounds like John's gonna have a two meal tailgate too.

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01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 1: He's getting here early breakfast, end lunch.

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01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:38,639
Speaker 3: That's good stuff, great effort.

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01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 1: Andrews says, I'm going all out. T bone steaks with

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Speaker 1: garlic butter, twice, baked potatoes, roasted asparagus, season with garlic, lemon,

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Speaker 1: and parmesan cheese. For dessert, New York style cheesecake. As

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Speaker 1: Steve says, let's go, let's go.

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01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 3: Wow, that's we For those of you who hang out

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01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 3: with us on Tuesdays and we do the tailgate tag along,

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01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 3: we go out and we've had some high end stuff.

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01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 3: We have not had t bones and twice.

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Speaker 1: I will say garlic butter is a level upper.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 1: Garlic butter just levels up a steak. It's an easy

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01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 1: way to do it too. Wow, why, Higgins says, I

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01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 1: know it's not gonna be ham. I get the joke there.

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01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm done with ham leftovers, as am I thankfully as

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01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 1: homage to Buffalo. I'll eat some wings. But on a

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01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 1: nice sunny, seventy degree Arizona afternoon and out of twenty

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01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 1: five degree evening in Buffalo, go bills So well, why

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01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 1: are we doing that? On the home Front.

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01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,480
Speaker 3: Why Higgins, that's your loss.

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01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure you feel so disappointed, I'm Jack says. For

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01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 1: maybe the last tailgate at the Ralph in the lot,

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01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 1: we will have stuffed hot pepper Italian sausage bombers with provolone,

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01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 1: grilled onions, peppers, garlic, and herb red sauce. Also doing

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Speaker 1: some dirty water dogs in honor of a New York

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01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:01,480
Speaker 1: team in town. No matter what, Bill's Mafia wins every tailgate.

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Speaker 1: That is what we call them in New York. Dirty waters, Yeah,

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01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 1: because they're just sit in those boiling water push carts

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Speaker 1: and you get what you get. Man.

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Speaker 6: You can.

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Speaker 1: All right, some good menu items there. We'll have to

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01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,759
Speaker 1: figure out where we're headed this weekend in the golf carts.

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Speaker 1: Keep an eye out for us, and we'll have something

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01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 1: along with us to help you out courtesy of Wegmans

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01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 1: regarding your tailgate provisions in the future, so that stuff. Yeah,

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01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 1: We'll reach out to those people we want to visit

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01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:35,679
Speaker 1: on X or Twitter, So stay close to your direct

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01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 1: messages there and look for a tweet from one Bill's

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01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 1: Live and we could be coordinating a visit with you

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Speaker 1: on Sunday at least it's not looking like rain.

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Speaker 2: That was tough.

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01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 1: Last week supposed to be dr last week could not

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01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 1: have been worse. We had been spoiled all season though

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01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 1: the weather.

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Speaker 3: The first four home games of this season were absolutely

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01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 3: unparalleled in their weather.

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Speaker 1: It was.

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01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 3: They were absolutely spectacular. Even the Tampa Bay game as well.

1509
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 1: It was. Everything was fantastic all the way up until

1510
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 1: what was it?

1511
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:06,839
Speaker 15: Uh?

1512
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 1: What was the game Incinnati?

1513
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 3: It might have been the Cincinnati game. Yeah, I can't

1514
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 3: remember the.

1515
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:14,799
Speaker 1: Homes when the weather started turning.

1516
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was the Cincinnati game.

1517
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1518
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 3: The Cincinnati and the Philly game have been the ones

1519
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 3: that are that were bad. Tampa Bay was actually really good,

1520
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 3: so mild.

1521
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Kansas City game was good. Let's get back

1522
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 1: to the phones, though, Get some last few memories for

1523
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 1: high Mark Stadium from you, any questions you have in

1524
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 1: the OBL Friday fan mail bag. Also fair game as well.

1525
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 1: But to Sharon in Virginia, what's up, Sharon? Yeah, Hi, Sharon?

1526
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 1: Are you there?

1527
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 5: Yes?

1528
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:45,639
Speaker 3: Go ahead, go ahead.

1529
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 16: I have a completely different memory as back in the

1530
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:55,680
Speaker 16: late late nineties. Yeah, my husband was dying of als,

1531
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 16: but he loved coming to the Bills game and he

1532
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 16: absolutely law listening to Van Miller, and for some reason,

1533
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,680
Speaker 16: our son, who was still in high school, called the

1534
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 16: Bill Bill's office and said they were bringing he was

1535
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:12,760
Speaker 16: bringing his dad to the next game because it would

1536
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 16: be the last one he'd be able to attend. If

1537
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:18,639
Speaker 16: there was any chance that maybe they could set up

1538
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 16: a meeting for him to meet Van Miller. Well, once

1539
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:26,719
Speaker 16: they got to the stadium, it was VIP all the way.

1540
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 15: They that.

1541
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 16: I'm trying to do this without crying. They uh, they

1542
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 16: did everything. They just went above and beyond for my husband.

1543
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 16: He's got we've got pictures of him with Van. They

1544
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:46,440
Speaker 16: had Magnet's mate up. We've got magnifs on our refrigerator

1545
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 16: with her pictures on. They took him, they went on

1546
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 16: a complete tour of the stadium and upstairs were you

1547
01:19:55,960 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 16: know where everybody said and it was just it was

1548
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 16: just I don't know how to say thank you. And

1549
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 16: this is one my way of saying thank you again

1550
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 16: to this Bill's organization. That was just great. So but

1551
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 16: good luck on Sunday. And I hope my guy James

1552
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 16: Cook makes his uh makes Yeah.

1553
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 1: Well, thanks Sharon for that memory. I'm sure that I'm

1554
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 1: sure Van had him cracking up the whole afternoon because

1555
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 1: he Van's a riot.

1556
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:33,639
Speaker 16: At that point my husband couldn't even talk. He lost

1557
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 16: a lot use of everything. But my son said that

1558
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:37,639
Speaker 16: it was a riot.

1559
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it.

1560
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 1: I still say to this day Van could have been

1561
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:44,480
Speaker 1: a stand up comedian if he wasn't a play play broadcaster.

1562
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 3: Because when Van was honored by the Pro Football Hall

1563
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 3: of Fame as the Local Rosell Award, the Pete Roselle

1564
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 3: Award winner, his acceptance speak because one of our guys

1565
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 3: was going in. I was there and I can't remember

1566
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 3: who was, whether it's James Lofton or or who it was.

1567
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:01,679
Speaker 3: But Van was the Pete Rosella Award winner and gave

1568
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 3: a speech in front of there must have been three

1569
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 3: thousand people in the building.

1570
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 1: A lot of people with cold jackets sitting there.

1571
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Van absolutely brought the house down, absolutely brought

1572
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:14,639
Speaker 3: the house.

1573
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 1: To People were crying, they were laughing, they loved it.

1574
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 3: Barry Sanders couldn't get to Van fast enough after this beach.

1575
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 1: To tell them how much how awesome it was.

1576
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 3: Van absolutely killed him and we're all, you know, all

1577
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:28,600
Speaker 3: the bills people were there because we had one of

1578
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 3: our guys going in. I can't remember which New Year

1579
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 3: it was, but one of our guys was going in

1580
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 3: and all the Bills people were there. We could not

1581
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 3: have been prouder. Could not have been prouder. Van absolutely

1582
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 3: slayed at the Hall of Fame.

1583
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:43,679
Speaker 1: No surprise, Uh to Jimmy in Hamburg next, what's up Jimmy?

1584
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 15: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my car. Appreciate what you do.

1585
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 15: So I got a couple of things I wrote down

1586
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 15: here some memories that I have. You know, I'm an

1587
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 15: old guy, so way back, many moons ago, when I

1588
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 15: was a kid, I think I was like sixteen. I

1589
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 15: used to work at the stadium cleaning after the games.

1590
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:09,640
Speaker 15: Was back when Who Saban was coaching the Bills, and

1591
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:11,520
Speaker 15: I love you.

1592
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 1: You know.

1593
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 15: Who used to lead the team out on the field

1594
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:17,559
Speaker 15: for practice and all the guys, all of us guys

1595
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 15: would be yelling Lou Lou, and he pumped his fist

1596
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 15: at us. So anyway, one day, we're down in the

1597
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 15: end zone, down in the corner. A couple rolls up

1598
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 15: from the field, just me and my buddy, and we're

1599
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:35,600
Speaker 15: sweeping down there. Practice was over and there was the

1600
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 15: punter stayed out on the field. It's the punter and

1601
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 15: the long snapper. He had a whole bucket of basket

1602
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:45,599
Speaker 15: of balls. He kept kicking him. Well, he kicks one

1603
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 15: fam that bounces in the corner of the end zone

1604
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 15: up and over the wall into the stands. Just a

1605
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 15: couple rolls up from where we're at. So we're looking around,

1606
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 15: you know, nobody's coming for the ball. So we kind

1607
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 15: of nonchalantly went over to that area and swept the

1608
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 15: ball into a garbage bag and went up, took it out,

1609
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 15: threw it over the fence, and so we still had

1610
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 15: that ball, did you guys hear me?

1611
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 1: Ye?

1612
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great.

1613
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:18,919
Speaker 15: Okay, Yeah, So yeah, I went to the first concert

1614
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:21,680
Speaker 15: they ever had their they called Summer Fest at the

1615
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 15: stadium with Eric Clapton the band James Gang saw hail

1616
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 15: Mary pass from Joe Ferguson to Roland Hooks the end

1617
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 15: of the game to win the game. Went to a

1618
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 15: Monday night game against Philly when ron jie Wirski was

1619
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:41,839
Speaker 15: a quarterback. They had the guy, a guy called crawled

1620
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 15: over the wall on the upper deck and they had

1621
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 15: like a cable there that ran from one upper deck

1622
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 15: to the other, and the guy was crawling across that

1623
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 15: thing when the game was going on, and then they

1624
01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 15: had a bunch of people there waiting for him, exception committee,

1625
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 15: and it did not end very well for the guy

1626
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 15: when he got to the other side. And you might

1627
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 15: you might remember this one, Steve, I'm sure you do.

1628
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 15: What Bill's beat Miami. I think we clinched division and

1629
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 15: Donny Beebee broke his leg and the whole stadium was

1630
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:23,640
Speaker 15: you know, bb bb bbe I remember that. Took my

1631
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:26,639
Speaker 15: son to his first game there when he was eight

1632
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 15: against Miami right before Christmas and we're beating Miami and

1633
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:36,879
Speaker 15: it's cold and it starts snowing, and the whole stadium

1634
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 15: starts singing, let it snow.

1635
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 3: Let remember.

1636
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 15: I remember that was great. Went with my dad to

1637
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 15: the Denver game when we scored like three touchdowns in

1638
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 15: seventy seven seconds.

1639
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, Steve talked about that game yesterday.

1640
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 15: Yeah, so took my wife. My wife took me and

1641
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 15: she was the very first game that she ever went to.

1642
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 15: Was a playoff game when we when we beat Houston.

1643
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 15: I remember Rob Riddick, You guys remember that guy at all?

1644
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 1: Robs a teammate of mine.

1645
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 15: Yes, sorry, flying over the Pile went to a game

1646
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 15: with wanted to see Barry Sanders, you know, so I

1647
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 15: went to a game. I was like Barry, and you

1648
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 15: know Barry, Ryan Wilde and great, great back. Anyway, so

1649
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 15: the game I go and see him is probably one

1650
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 15: of his worst games. He had hardly, I don't know,

1651
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 15: not much yardage and he gets tackled in his own

1652
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 15: end zone for a safety.

1653
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 1: I was a ninety seven game. I was at that game.

1654
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 1: I remember that one. Jimmy, I'm sorry, we're up against

1655
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: the break so I got to let you go. Some

1656
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 1: great memories there though, thanks for sharing. In that ninety

1657
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 1: seven game, Bruce and Chris Spielman, his former teammate, had

1658
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 1: him dead to rights in the end zone there and

1659
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 1: Bill's won that game twenty two to thirteen. I want

1660
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 1: to say nineteen ninety seven, I was there. I was

1661
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 1: a ninety seven game early in the season. Beautiful day,

1662
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 1: Sunny day was like a gotta take a break. We'll

1663
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 1: see if we can squeeze a phone call in when

1664
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 1: we get back here. On one Bills Live on a

1665
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:24,560
Speaker 1: Friday edition, Stay tuned Vision to Victory presented by a

1666
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,639
Speaker 1: Wall eye Care, the official eye care provider The Buffalo Bills,

1667
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 1: And this one's pretty simple. Just get up on these

1668
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 1: guys early and make them look forward to the end

1669
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 1: of their season. This is a team going nowhere at

1670
01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:40,679
Speaker 1: three and thirteen in the Jets. We've seen week eighteen

1671
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 1: games before. Steve. If the Bills can get up on

1672
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 1: a team like this early, usually they pack their bags

1673
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 1: and fold their tents.

1674
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 3: Well, yeah it, yeah they could, or they might not.

1675
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 1: You're expecting a plucky Jets team.

1676
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 3: They're going to start out with effort, no question about it.

1677
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 1: They got accused of giving up by their own coach

1678
01:26:58,200 --> 01:26:58,639
Speaker 1: last week.

1679
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:02,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, he backed He walked back on that on Monday,

1680
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 3: he said, Now I looked at the film, he goes, no,

1681
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:06,559
Speaker 3: effort wasn't the problem, and he's I think he's right that.

1682
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 3: I think it's just talent. I mean, they got a

1683
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:13,719
Speaker 3: lot of guys. It'll be interesting to see how much

1684
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 3: Aaron Glenn tinkers with his coaching staff this offseason, whether

1685
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:19,800
Speaker 3: he was totally happy with all those guys and all

1686
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:22,880
Speaker 3: of that. But certainly Jets fans are going to be

1687
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 3: looking for some adjustments going forward. They want to see, Hey,

1688
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:27,599
Speaker 3: what are you going to do different this year? They're

1689
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 3: going to want to see a new and different roster.

1690
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 3: But you're right, Brownie, this is was that you would

1691
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:36,640
Speaker 3: love if you're the Buffalo Bills, to hit him right

1692
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 3: in the mouth as soon as they get off the

1693
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 3: bus and then don't look back.

1694
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, make it over early. So that's vision to victory.

1695
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,599
Speaker 1: I want to take a few last comments. We don't

1696
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 1: really have time for a phone call, so apologize for that.

1697
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 1: But if you're holding an eight h three oh five

1698
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 1: point fifty, I'm sure showping the bulldog here on WGR

1699
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 1: and Buffalo would be happy to take your phone call.

1700
01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 1: So stay where we are. Do have time to read

1701
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 1: off some of the comments from the tweetsheet. Nate says,

1702
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:08,720
Speaker 1: what are the final stadium stats? How many AFC championships?

1703
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 1: What's the home win loss record? So do happen to

1704
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 1: have that here? Since nineteen seventy three, the Bills are

1705
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 1: two forty six and one sixty two at home, which

1706
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 1: is a little bit better than a sixty percent winning percentage,

1707
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:26,759
Speaker 1: And they have obviously won three AFC championships in that building.

1708
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 1: The fourth was won in Miami. That was the only

1709
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 1: one that the Bills won on the road. Robbie says,

1710
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 1: as anyone stood in the new stadium and all during

1711
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 1: the recent high windstorms, I'd like to hear what it

1712
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 1: was like inside. Favorite game was Jags game in twenty four.

1713
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:43,599
Speaker 1: That was a Monday night win forty seven to ten.

1714
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:46,720
Speaker 1: Sat next to a traveling Jags family. They bet me

1715
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 1: a pop the Bills wouldn't score a third drive in

1716
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 1: a row and never paid up. There is no wind

1717
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 1: in there. We went over there to visit one time

1718
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 1: on a windy day on an employee tour. The flag

1719
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 1: on the top of the stadium was whipping. No wind

1720
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 1: on the field, So what they say is accurate. There

1721
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:07,200
Speaker 1: will be no win to worry about inside that stadium anymore.

1722
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 1: Rich says, favorite memories when we beat Kansas City in

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01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 1: the AFC title game with Bruce Smith taking out Joe

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01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 1: Montana with a sack. Great day, Jim says, best memory

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01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:19,720
Speaker 1: Bo don't know snow fifty one to three. So yeah,

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01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 1: Bo didn't play in that game because he had a

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01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 1: career ending injury the week before in a playoff game

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01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:27,879
Speaker 1: against the Bengals. And then cz Brooks says, with Trubisky

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01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:30,240
Speaker 1: taking most of the starting team quarterback reps this week,

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01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 1: who's running scout team. Trubisky did both this week. He

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01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 1: ran first team offense and scout team. Josh practiced limited.

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01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 1: It'll be good to go on Sunday. We'll see if

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01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 1: he plays one snap. If that. Enjoy the game, everybody,

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Speaker 1: have fun.