1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live to New York Bloomberg eleventh Yo to Washington, 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: d C, Bloomberg one to Boston, Bloomberg Well one to 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: San Francisco, Bloomberg nine sixteen to the country Suities Exam 4 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: Channel one nineteen and around the globe the Bloomberg Radio 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: plus Aven Bloomberg dot com. This is Bloomberg Surveillance. Good morning, 6 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: I'm Karin Moscow along with Tom Keene and Michael McKee, 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: and the opening val is brought to you by sei 8 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: In the future of the sset management business will be 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: profoundly different. 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The yeld one point 18 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: eight one per cent yield on the two year point 19 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: seven five percent now I'm ex screwed oil up one 20 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: point six percent, or forty seven cents to fifty one 21 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: a barrel. Comex gold is it'll change at twelve oh 22 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: seven ninety announced the euro is at a dollar eleven 23 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: eighteen the end one fourteen point to six. Tom and 24 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 1: Mike Karen, thanks so much aloup ninety points is Karen 25 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: mentions green on the screen of vix. No, there's the 26 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: first print in the vix twenty three point four zero. 27 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: It'd also point out Sterling with the Brexit UH weight 28 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: forty two is a weaker cable. Uh this morning, never weaker? 29 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: Is David Wilson with a look at the equity markets? 30 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: Is morning, David, what do you see in the land 31 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: of equities? Well, we might as well start with Kinder Morgan. 32 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: I mean the shares are up eleven and a half 33 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: percent in early trading. The pipeline owner was added to 34 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: the whole days of Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway during the 35 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Berkshire ended the quarter with twenty six point 36 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: six million shares, where one point two percent steak. You've 37 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: also got free point mcmurran up about five and a 38 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: half percent. Billionaire investor Carl Icon disclosed that he raised 39 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: his stake in the mining and energy company last quarter. 40 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: Icon now has a nine percent holding, making him freeports 41 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: largest shareholder. Down the earnings front, you've got Price Line 42 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: Group up ten and a half percent, the largest US 43 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: online travel agency, report and fourth quarter earnings that beat 44 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: its forecast as well as annalyst average essement in Bloomberg survey. 45 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: Revenue also exceeded projections. T Mobile US up about four percent. 46 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: The wireless company's fourth quarter earnings and sales surpass estimates. 47 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: T Mobile said expects to add as many as three 48 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: point four million new subscribers this year. On the other hand, Cerner, 49 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: a healthcare software provider, down eight and a half percent. 50 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: UH Their fourth quarter order bookings came up short of estimates. 51 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: On the deal front, Staples up three point two percent, 52 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: the largest US office supply chain, agreed to sell wholesale 53 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: contracts to Ascendant for about twenty two and a half 54 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: million dollars if it's proposed takeover of rival office depot succeeds. 55 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: Staples move is designed to overcome regulatory objections to the deal. 56 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: Then you've got ter Ax up about five and a 57 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: half percent. China's Zoom line. Have a industry set received 58 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: a letter of support from banks for a three point 59 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: three billion dollar takeover offer for the cranemaker zoom line, 60 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: seeking to scuttle ter X's proposed merger with Finland's equity idea. 61 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: How about bonds? How about garment? Up eight and a 62 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: half percent? The navigation device makers fourth quarter revenue beat estimates, 63 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: uh so did garment sales forecast for this year, and 64 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: Fossil Group up almost nineteen percent. The watchmaker's fourth quarter 65 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: earnings top to estimates with the help of new brands 66 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: and a new website. David Wilson taking so much, Lisa Branmo, 67 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: it's for us now as you look at bonds and 68 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: uh it was a twenty three billion dollar Tuesday. I mean, 69 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about Apple and I get all that, 70 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: but I there, it's terrible high yield. We're all gonna die. 71 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: And then Toyota, IBM, Apple, they all show up and 72 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: it's like, what do they do to make five phone calls? Well, first, 73 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: let's put this into context, right, I mean, this is 74 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: the busiest day in three weeks for investment grade bond 75 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: issue and so for all intents and purposes. The market 76 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: was pretty much closed for three weeks. Now suddenly companies 77 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: are seeing an opening. Suddenly the world doesn't seem like 78 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: it's about to fall apart, and people are actually starting 79 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: to sell bonds. I do find it compelling, Tom to 80 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: your point, wasn't the world falling apart? But these guys 81 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: can just sell whatever they want? Can't but stuff? I 82 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: want you to explain how they quote unquote sell They 83 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: literally make five phone calls, right, It's not an exaggeration. 84 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: The banks do not have to work too hard to 85 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,799 Speaker 1: get this stuff off the books because realistically, think about 86 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: how many investors out there internationally, let alone in the 87 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: US wants some yield, wants want a sense of safety. 88 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,239 Speaker 1: And if you look at Apple, I mean, think about 89 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: how much cash they have, think about you know what 90 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: a fortress balance sheet. They seem to have seventy billion 91 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: dollars of annual revenue. I mean, this is not exactly 92 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: uh fragile, come ay. And yet it is interesting that 93 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: the junk universe has gotten so toxic to investments, and 94 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: yet investment great companies are doing just fine. Do you 95 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: assume dollar for dollar that every bond dollar coming in 96 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: goes back out within the financial engineering to buy back shares, 97 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: raised dividends that would be awfully cynical? Would that mystic 98 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: aspects of the bond market? Tom is revealing? Um, I 99 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: actually agree with you because if you look at the 100 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: companies that are raising cash through the debt markets right now, 101 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,239 Speaker 1: it's for general corporate purposes, which is another word for 102 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: we can do whatever we want, and you guys are 103 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: just going to deal with it. Johnny, should we do 104 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: a weighted average cost of capital on Wednesday? Well, let's see, 105 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:55,239 Speaker 1: we have three listeners left, Mike, just as a quick 106 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: quick view, weighted average cost ten poe equity debt costs one? 107 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: It what do you need to know? Well, as one 108 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: trader put it this morning, it's it's really sad to 109 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: see Apple issue debt like this when they have all 110 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: that cash overseas. The fact that our tax code forces 111 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: them to do that is insane. Well, and it's not 112 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: just the tax code, right, I mean, yes, this is 113 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: partly because they don't want to repatriate cash that stashed overseas, 114 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: but this is also to Tom's point, to buy back 115 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: their shares to basically pad the pockets of their stockholders. 116 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: Take your head off for that. It's not a pad pockets, 117 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: it's a return on capital of profit. But is that 118 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: an appropriate use. That's a debate. You know. I'm not 119 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: going to answer to the debate, but Mr go Belly 120 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: would push against those who think it's bordering on criminal. 121 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: I don't think it's bordering on criminal. I do think 122 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: that the idea of borrowing from bondholders in order to 123 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: pay stockholders feels a little off because it doesn't necessarily 124 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: lead to and improve made the fundamental business prospect of 125 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 1: she does that. She's more subt old Michael. She brings 126 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: in her beautiful Bloomberg gad Fly article, which you can 127 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: perceive I'll put it on on social in a moment. 128 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: Buried in the bottom of it is the tragedy known 129 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: as Hewlett Packard where the certitude of tech bonds Michael 130 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: McKee evaporated into a higher yield and a lower bond price. 131 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: I was just looking at that portion of this marvelous 132 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: sort of like the King James body, I haven't got 133 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: the edge gives that ever, as they came up with 134 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: Tommy heres bible you can find in every hotel, he 135 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: can find Bloomber gad Flight everything. We're gonna stop right 136 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: there is this uh is Apple the camel's nose under 137 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: the tenter. Is this just a function of timing that 138 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: they happen to lead the parade into this larger output 139 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: of bonds? Well, you know, the question is ken smaller companies, 140 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: Ken companies that actually need to borrow, that aren't just 141 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: taking advantage of the fact that fields are still pretty low. 142 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: Are they going to be able to come to market? 143 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: And And really the answer is it remains to be seen. 144 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: Thank you, Lisa brand Went said. Seriously, folks, Bloomberg gad 145 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: fly is a really valuable idea. You get ten twelve, 146 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: fifteen ideas a day, You're not gonna read them all. 147 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: You're gonna pick a few and one of them to 148 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,559 Speaker 1: consider as UH two or three summaries on a huge, 149 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: ginormous bond day yesterday led by twelve gazillion dollars by Apple, 150 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: uh computer, They've got other challenges this morning. They're dealing 151 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: with unlocking their phones as well. Michael Barr has talked 152 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: about that as well. We're up on in the thirty 153 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: one point sixteen thousand, three twenty eight, the vix halfway 154 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: back to average twenty three point four nine, certainly a complacency. 155 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: Over the last three or four days. Yen one fourteen 156 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: twenty seven, weaker Japanese yen really beginning to move away 157 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: from the angst. And we saw the last couple of 158 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: days uh pounds sterling showing angst. Cable dollar forty two 159 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: fifty seven week or that's a Brexit angle there as well. 160 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: West Texas Intermedia sixty four cents and Brent Crewed thirty 161 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: three fifteen up a good ninety eight cents, widening the 162 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: West Texas Brent spread. This morning, This our surveillance spotty 163 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: by MASDA White Planes. Visit MASDA White Plains dot com. 164 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: Here's Michael R. With the latest news headlines. Mike Tom, 165 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: thank you very much. Donald Trump says he agrees with 166 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: Cords that Apple should help the FBI and unlock an 167 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: iPhone that belonged to one of the San Bernardino, California shooters. 168 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: Trump on Fox and Friends says, to think that Apple 169 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: won't allow us to get into the cell phone. Who 170 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: do they think they are? Apple says if it developed 171 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: such software, it will put millions of other iPhones at risk. 172 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: Technology analyst Rob Enderley he creates a catch twenty two 173 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: for them that they one they specifically made it so 174 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: this couldn't happen, and if they are able to force 175 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: force it to happen, then they open all the phones 176 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: to the same kind of attack, at least by a 177 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: government level entity. For us F twenty two South Finders 178 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: have flown over South Korea today and the clear show 179 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: of power against North Korea. Passengers on two planes at 180 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: the Traite Metropolitan Airport had a moment. An American Airlines 181 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: plane clipped a Southwest Airlines plane on the Tarmact this morning. 182 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: A passenger aboard American Airlines flight twelve forty one says 183 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: they were getting in line to be de ice when 184 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: the incident occurred. The debris on the ground, and I 185 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: turned and looked at everybody because of course there's weird 186 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: noises and it's not a smooth ride at this point, 187 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: and I just said, oh my god, you guys, we're 188 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: hitting this plane. I'm walking and we're hitting it. 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