1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Action Network podcast, the number one show 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: for the invested sports fan. All Right, here we go 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: throwing in job. 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 2: I'm saying it's a catch to We'll see most gamblers 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: when they go to gamble, they go to win. 6 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: God, that's incredible. 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 3: Big bank, small banks. 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: I like to make money. All right, this is the 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: ultimate kabai want to pull. 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 4: And we are underway. 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Welcome to the NFL Conference Championship Fantasy Flex 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: on the Action Network Podcast. I am Matthew Friedman, the 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: editor in chief of Fantasy Labs, part of the Action Network. 14 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: In this episode, we're breaking down the players at the 15 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: top of our rankings, which are available at actionnetwork dot 16 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: com slash fantasy. You're discussing the guys we are high 17 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: and low on, and we are as always speculating on 18 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: some player props. With me are Shawn Owner and Chris Raymond. 19 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: Shawn is our director of predictive Analytics and one of 20 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 1: the top in season fantasy football rankers for the past 21 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: half decade, and Chris is a senior editor and analyst 22 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: at the Action Network and a co host of the 23 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,639 Speaker 1: Action Network show on series XM Fantasy Radio. I should 24 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: also add that Chris is top five in the twenty 25 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: nineteen Fantasy Pros in season ranking contest. Gentleman, how's it going. 26 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: It's going good, exciting time of year. It's been a 27 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 2: while playoffs so far. I think the Titans are probably 28 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: the story of it. Can I do it one more week? 29 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:29,559 Speaker 4: Two more weeks? 30 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: I mean, they're scary to play. Every week just seems 31 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: to be Derrek Henry Titans the event. So we'll see 32 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: what happens this week. 33 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 5: I love this time year, and I kind of like 34 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 5: the fact that my wife might hear me another which 35 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 5: is a huge Pats fan. But I like the fact 36 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 5: that the Pats aren't in it. Just there's this uncertainty 37 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 5: that we don't usually have this time here. So I'm 38 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 5: rooting for a Chiefs for an Anders Super Bowl. I 39 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 5: think that'd be the best matchup. But I don't think 40 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 5: you go wrong with any of these teams. I'm loving 41 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 5: the way the Plaffs are shaping up. 42 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: All right, let's jump into it. The two quarterbacks at 43 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: the top of our rankings, and is that obviously we're 44 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: dropping from three to two because like a we're gonna 45 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: highlight the top three in to be like and the 46 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: one loser at the bottom of our rankings. So the 47 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: two guys at the top of our rankings, Patrick Mahomes 48 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: and Jimmy Garoppolo. That right there speaks to the massive 49 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 1: discrepancy in this slate. Like one, what happens when you 50 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: just have you know, four players or short slate, but 51 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: then two like a tier of Patrick Mahomes and then 52 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: you have another tier underneath him that's just empty, and 53 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 1: then you have a tier underneath that, and that's where 54 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: some of these other guys are. But Jimmy Garoppolo is 55 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: the number two quarterback behind Patrick Mahomes. Sean, I mean 56 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: a four game slate. It's almost ridiculous to ask this question, 57 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: But who are you relatively high on? 58 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 3: Jimmy g Again? 59 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 5: For me this week, I have him as my second 60 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 5: rink QB and he's the cheapest QB on the slate. Again, 61 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 5: I think he makes sense with game stacks. It didn't 62 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 5: quite work out last week because the Vikings weren't able 63 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 5: to keep up with the Niners, so they didn't really 64 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 5: have to keep their foot on the gas, so to speak. 65 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 5: But this week, Patrick Mahomes will probably be my highest 66 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 5: on QB. But he's going to be incredibly high on 67 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 5: to begin with the one QB I'll try to have 68 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 5: more exposure to than ownership percentage would be Jimmy g 69 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 5: And like I said, he's one of the most stackable qbs. 70 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 5: You can stack him with Sanders, Debo Kittle, so he 71 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 5: makes a lot of sense. And then I'll probably send 72 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 5: him back with DeVante Adams or Aaron Jones from that game. 73 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 5: But I like the idea of sort of stacking that 74 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 5: game around Jimmy g Is. It'll be more of a 75 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 5: smart contrarion play in my opinion. 76 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: All right, Raybond, where are you on Garoppolo? 77 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel the same way. I mean, first of all, 78 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 2: I don't think he should be the cheapest. I think 79 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: he should be the second most expensive. So I'm right 80 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: there with Sean and I think Tannehill there's something to 81 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: be said for just you know, the game script has 82 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: been working out well for the Titans in these last 83 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 2: two games. 84 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 4: But he has been very efficient. 85 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: So if you know, the Chiefs end up jumping out 86 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: to a lead or whatnot, and he has to throw 87 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: more than you know, fourteen fifteen times, I could see 88 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: that working out well. 89 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 4: So I like him in game stacks kind of like 90 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 4: what se Al was saying with Jimmy g as Well. 91 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you on Tannehill. You guys have him ranked. 92 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: Sean you have number four, Chris, you have him number three. 93 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: I'm the highest on him at number two. The big 94 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: reason is that the Chiefs, although they've actually been pretty 95 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: good against wide receivers this year, they haven't been brutal 96 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: against quarterbacks like quarterbacks have been able to do about 97 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: league average against them. And if we do get in 98 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: a situation where Chris, as you mentioned, game script starts 99 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: to go against the run heavy plans that the Titans have, 100 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: we could finally see Tannehill get the opportunity to rip 101 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: it a little bit more. And then even if things 102 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: go you know, quote unquote right with the Titans and 103 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: they are able to run the ball fifty times per game, 104 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: I still think that that could result in some like 105 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: touchdown throwing opportunities for Tannehill. So I'm, you know, in 106 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: a slate that I think is this ugly or this 107 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: tilted at the quarterback position, I'm fine with Tannehill at 108 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: number two. And I mean, I don't know, I guess 109 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: I'll sort of transition this into like the player I'm 110 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: down on. You guys are high on Garoppolo. I'm relatively 111 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: down on him, and in part it's because of the 112 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: fact that they are home favorites. I think they're going 113 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: to run the ball quite a bit, just as they 114 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: did last week. I mean, I don't really have a 115 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: lot of respect for the Packers defense, but at the 116 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: same time, it's actually been pretty decent against opposing quarterbacks. 117 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: And some of that is maybe a function of the 118 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that they've played against, but quarterbacks really have knock 119 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: gone off against the Packers this year. And so you 120 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: put those two things together, and I'm inclined to be 121 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: pretty low on Garoppolo. Sean, who are you relatively low on? 122 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: So you mentioned I had Tannehill four. 123 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 5: I forgot to update my projections this morning and our 124 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 5: Excel file, but I actually have him three now, and 125 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 5: to be fair, it's really just a three way tie 126 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 5: for second, yeah, or last, whatever you want to call it. 127 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: But I have Rogers ranked fourth now. 128 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 5: And he's the most or he's the second most expensive, 129 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 5: so I'll probably fading him completely. And you know, with Rogers, 130 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 5: you know you could fade him specifically, but you could 131 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 5: also play a ton of DeVante Adams, so I'll probably 132 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 5: played a ton of DeVante Adams. So if Rogers does good, 133 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 5: you're still going to get production from Adams. I'm not 134 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 5: really worried about, you know, guys like Jimmy grahmm Er, 135 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 5: Allen Wizard going off or anything and ruining that plan. 136 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 3: So I think the way to do it is just, yeah, 137 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 3: you want to have some. 138 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 5: Smart contrarian plays with Garoppolo and Tannehill for any any 139 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 5: laps that you don't have Mahomes, and then you can 140 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 5: have Rogers served by proxy through Devonte Adams. 141 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: So I think that's the way. 142 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 5: I'm maybe playing the slave basically a complete fait of 143 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers at this price stuff. 144 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: All right, Rayvon, you are also relatively low on Aaron Rodgers. 145 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers, He's going to struggle this week. 146 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: Listen last week at home against the Seahoff defense that 147 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: you know, they'll play some split safety and they're just 148 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: they're kind of they don't have a lot of impact 149 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 2: player the outside of Geveon Clowney. So Rogers able to 150 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 2: go off. And if you look at that game, Davante 151 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: Adam one hundred and sixty yards of his two hundred 152 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 2: and forty three essentially two thirds of Rogers passing yards. 153 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 2: And then you look back at what the how he 154 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: did against the Niners, and Devonte Adams had just. 155 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 4: Forty three yards on eleven targets, and the forty. 156 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: Nine are capable of taking him away again. 157 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers had the worst game of his career in 158 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: his first outing against San Francisco. He only threw four 159 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: one hundred and four yards, and a lot of that 160 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 2: is just that forty nine or defense. 161 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: You know, they there. 162 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: I liked him for the same reason that I liked 163 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: them wh last against Cousins. You know, when you can 164 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 2: get pressure without blitzing, now you're able to kind of 165 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 2: have guys in coverage that can take away the team's 166 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: top options, and without without Adams, there's really nowhere out 167 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 2: to go with the football. I mean, even Aaron Jones 168 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: only had thirty eight yards on thirteen touches that in 169 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 2: that first meeting, and we saw what the vik the 170 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: nine were able to do to Dalvin Cook. So it's 171 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: a tough spot for Rodgers. I actually have him in 172 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: a tier by himself at the bottom. I just don't 173 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 2: I don't think he'll have a lot of success. And 174 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: I think the Packers will try to, you know, work 175 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: the running backs in more in Jones and and try 176 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: to do it that way, but it's not going to 177 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,239 Speaker 2: be good if they have to throw the football. 178 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: Sean, you are going to give us the player prop 179 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: for quarterbacks. By the way, everyone should check out the 180 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: Fantasy Labs prop tool, which since the twenty eighteen season 181 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: has yielded a sixty percent win rate for all of 182 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: the props with a bet quality rating of ten. Pretty 183 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: pretty pretty good, Sean, give us the prop. 184 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 5: So let's go with the guy we didn't really get 185 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 5: to talk about too much because it's pretty obvious who's 186 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 5: the number one quarterback this week, but Patrick Mahomes total 187 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 5: passing yards at home against the Titans. 188 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,599 Speaker 3: I have the line set at three zero, six and 189 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 3: a half under. 190 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 2: I think he's going to you know, I think the 191 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: Titans have just played such a good ball control. You know, 192 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 2: I don't see a huge three hundred plus game. They 193 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 2: also got down, they got way down and Houston in 194 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 2: that first quarter, which is something that we really haven't 195 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 2: seen from Houston all year. So yeah, I think it 196 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 2: could be the Titans. I know the Titans are going 197 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 2: to come out and that's going to be their plan. 198 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: It's going to try to be to slow them down. Now, 199 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: it didn't work last time. I think it threw for 200 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: four forty six. So I mean it's my homes but yeah, 201 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 2: I have them a little bit under. I have them 202 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 2: in the in the low to nineties. 203 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll take the under as well. I'm a little 204 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: more even pessimistic than Chris. I'm just kind of looking 205 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: at my numbers and I imagine I'm gonna adjust this 206 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: up a little bit. But right now I have him 207 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: at eighty four, like shooting from the hip like that 208 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: feels a little low. But I could see it being 209 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: a situation where with a run heavy game script on 210 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: both sides, Like I could see the Titans sticking with 211 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: the run even if they get down by ten to 212 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: fourteen points. And I could see a situation where the 213 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: Chiefs rely on the run a little bit more than 214 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: they did last game. So I'll take the under there. 215 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: Let's get to the running backs. The two guys at 216 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: the top of our rankings, Derrick Henry and Aaron Jones. 217 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,599 Speaker 1: I think that is pretty apparent, but you know, you 218 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: can also make a case for putting Damian Williams up there, 219 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: and I think it is really those three guys, and 220 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: then a pretty big tear drop after that, Sean who'd 221 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: he like? 222 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 5: I definitely don't want to be making any final decisions 223 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 5: on the forign Entitor backfield on Tuesday morning, but right now, 224 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 5: the way that pricing is shaping up, I think Raheem 225 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 5: Mozart is the guy worth buying back in on at 226 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 5: forty three hundred. We kind of talked about Hutson possible 227 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 5: to really trust Shanahan since they really do use a 228 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 5: hot hand approach. So Mozart he had to leave the game, 229 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 5: I guess due to like cramps in his calf, so 230 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,599 Speaker 5: that's more of a temporary issue. I guess he was 231 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 5: dealing with some illness last week, so that could be 232 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 5: a reason why he got phase out. And obviously Tevin 233 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 5: Coleman had a great game, but I think that people 234 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 5: are going to be, you know, chasing points from last week, 235 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 5: so to speak. And Coleman is more expensive than Mozart 236 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 5: the six, so I think Mozart poses as of right now, 237 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 5: a good cheap option at running back, especially if he 238 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 5: inherits his main lead back role this week, so I'm 239 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 5: looking at him, But again this is a projection that 240 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 5: could change as the week evolves, as we find out 241 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 5: more what happened last week in what Shanahan plans to 242 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 5: do this week. But I'm assuming since Brita he actually 243 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 5: had a pretty critical fumble towards. 244 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 3: The end the game. 245 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 5: I think it was third and one they went for 246 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 5: it or with they gave breed to the ball and 247 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 5: he fumbled it. So I'm thinking that could cost him 248 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 5: a bit this week. So if we have more of 249 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 5: a two headed timeshare here, I think Mozart will be 250 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 5: pretty much a free square at forty three hundred. 251 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: Raymond, where are you on most shirt? Yeah? 252 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 4: I kind of feel the same way. 253 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 2: I actually read something that Kyle Shanahan said he likes 254 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 2: to start games with seven Coleman because of the physicality 255 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: he brings. 256 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 4: So I definitely think Coleman. 257 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 2: Will get a you know, a few carries early, and 258 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 2: you know that does increase the volatility with Mostert who 259 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: you know, if the forty nine ers get down or 260 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 2: something like that, it'd be tougher to predict. Also, none 261 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 2: of the running backs got targeted last week, so you 262 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: know it's one of those things where you don't usually 263 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 2: expect those guys to get more than one or two 264 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: in a differn game anyway. But as Shawn said at 265 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 2: forty three hundred, this is a short slate, you got 266 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 2: to kind of make some concessions somewhere, so you know, 267 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 2: it's you know, fourteen hundred less. 268 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 4: Coleman I think is worth buying into. 269 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 5: And just you know, he has the questionable tag on DK. 270 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 5: I think those things kind of matter. People might be 271 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 5: a little cautious in taking him whenever they see that. 272 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 5: So I just think he's going to be under on 273 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 5: this week. Okay, I'm I'm with you guys on both points. 274 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 5: I think for his salary, most are offers a lot 275 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 5: of value. And I think that he probably will have 276 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 5: a reduced ownership this week, both you know, because of 277 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 5: any lingering injury concerns and then also because he was 278 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 5: overtaken in the backfield or I'll change that he was 279 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 5: outproduced in the backfield last week by Tevin Coleman. Where 280 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 5: I am differing is that I think Tevin Coleman will 281 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 5: get the opportunity to be the hot hand first, and 282 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 5: and so I don't want the guy who's going to 283 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 5: be like the second option, you know what I mean. So, 284 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 5: like from a fantasy point perspective projecting this, I do 285 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 5: have Coleman projected for more points than most are this week. Like, 286 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 5: I think it was more than just Coleman managed to 287 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 5: outproduce him. I think, as much as anyone in that 288 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 5: backfield can in any game, I think Coleman took the 289 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 5: starting job. I mean, you guys can disagree, And this 290 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 5: is like one of the big challenges of projecting this 291 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 5: backfield always. If I had to split it right now, 292 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 5: I would give more of the workload to Coleman than 293 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 5: to Mostert. So from a fantasy point perspective, I'm a 294 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 5: little bit higher on Coleman than most are, but they're 295 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 5: both for me top five backs, and what distinguishes them 296 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 5: probably is not all that much from a fantasy point perspective, 297 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 5: which means in terms of salary, most Aret is the 298 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 5: preferable play in DFS, but relatively higher on Coleman and 299 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 5: lower on Mostert this week, Sean, who are you relatively 300 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 5: low on? 301 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 3: So just by default I'm low on Tevin Coleman. I mean, 302 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 3: you've make great points. 303 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 5: I have Coleman getting one and a half more carries, 304 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 5: so I agree that he's probably you know, the lead 305 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 5: back now, but the uncertainty doesn't favor him being almost 306 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 5: fifteen hundred dollars more expensive, and I think his ownership, 307 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 5: I think his ownership will be spiked this week because 308 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 5: anybody watched that game, Yeah, he looks like the better back, 309 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 5: and we've joked about it, like, you know, who's the 310 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 5: better back in this backfield? 311 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 3: We don't really know. 312 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 5: You could debate it all you want, and I think 313 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 5: Brita actually had the first carry last game. So again, 314 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 5: I think Brita's fumble at the end of the game. 315 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 5: This could be two way time share. So I might 316 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 5: even have a team where I have both Moser and Coleman. 317 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 5: Just the way the forty nine ers operate. This offense 318 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 5: might be a sneaky little snack there stack there. But yeah, 319 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 5: Tevin Coleman at fifty seven HRD, I'll try to purposely 320 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 5: have lower exposure than the field, just because I think 321 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 5: that given a certainty and you know how price he is, 322 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 5: I think he's the smart fade this week. But we'll 323 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 5: have to see how this week ship's up in who 324 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 5: other people are leaning towards if people seem like they're 325 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 5: going to be cautious with Coleman, then I might have more. 326 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 5: It's just one of those things where we'll have to 327 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 5: get a feel with with how the general public perceives 328 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 5: the situation, all. 329 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: Right, Raybond, Aaron Jones is number two in my rankings, 330 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: number two and Shawn's rankings number three in yours. Talk 331 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: about why you prefer Damian Williams to him. 332 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 2: So, Damian Williams had one hundred percent of the backfield 333 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 2: carries last week, and we thought maybe Andy Reid was 334 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: saving McCoy for the playoffs, but really it seemed to 335 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 2: be saving Damian Williams for the stretch run. 336 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 4: And that continued. 337 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: And you know, when I look at the two matchups, 338 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Aaron Jones got eighty seven zero 339 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: point five percent of the carries, Williams got one, and 340 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: Tyler Irving got a couple, and it's just, you know, 341 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: the usage favors Williams just a bit. And then you 342 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: look at what San Francisco has done with this defense 343 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 2: completely healthy, because remember they got the chrisky target safety back, 344 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: they got Kawan Alexander at linebacker back, and then they 345 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 2: got de Florida as a pass rusher back. 346 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 4: So there not only are they. 347 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: Tough to pass against, which limits the opportunities for the 348 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: entire offense and puts you in bad game script, but 349 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 2: they were able to take away Dalvin Cook last week 350 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 2: he had twenty six yards on fifteen touches. They tried 351 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 2: to get him going with some screens that didn't work. 352 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 2: And and then you look at what Aaron Jones did 353 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: against the same defense when it wasn't even one hundred 354 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 2: percent healthy back in week twelve, he had only thirty 355 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 2: eight yards on thirteen touches himself. So I think when 356 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 2: when you look at the floors of both of them, 357 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: I think Jones have the lower floor. 358 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the prop Sean give it to. 359 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 3: Us, Derrick Henry Baby at Kansas City. 360 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 5: We're gonna bump it up to one hundred and a 361 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 5: half yards this week at Casey total rushing yards. 362 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 3: Oh oh, way over, way over. 363 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 4: I haven't at twenty four or five for one thirty? 364 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 3: Can I take you under on that? 365 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: The under He'll go over though, right right? 366 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: If you look at since the buy, their pass rate 367 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: has like been under fifty percent, So yeah, I have 368 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 2: their dropback rate essentially in the mid forties, which bumps 369 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 2: it up a little. 370 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: I have the under projected, but I know I'm just 371 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: too low on his rushing usage. So I'm going to 372 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: take the over, like I need to make a main 373 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: old adjustment in this, because I think they're going to 374 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: do exactly what they've done the past two weeks. You 375 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: could run against the Patriots, you could run against the Ravens, 376 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: you can run against the Chiefs. Like that is the 377 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: way that they are going to attack, even if they 378 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: get down by double digit points. I don't see a 379 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: world in which Derrick Henry gets fewer than twenty carries. 380 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: Like on the surface, that sounds like a ridiculous statement, 381 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: like you should never project any running back like ever 382 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: to have like more than twenty carries, except in this instance, 383 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: you know, like this is the outline instance. Yeah, I'm 384 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: going to take the over. 385 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 5: I mean that's kind of why we were cautious with 386 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 5: them last week because we thought they would be trailing 387 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 5: and that didn't happen. So if they do start trailing 388 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 5: by double digits, I think that that will be the 389 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 5: way this goes under. So rayboun are you taking the 390 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 5: Titans plus seven or. 391 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 2: I stop betting Titans the games because I'm over wrong. 392 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 2: I would take it over on his proplem, especially if 393 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 2: it's around that number of one hundred. I just think, 394 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 2: you know, not only the volume, like which has been 395 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 2: extremely consistent. I mean thirty two, thirty four to thirty 396 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 2: those are his carrier numbers over the last three games. 397 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 2: Like this is no longer you know, a just you know, like, Okay, 398 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 2: he's had a couple of big spikes and we saw 399 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: this at the end of last season too, where they 400 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 2: just they rode him. So I think if they get 401 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 2: down double digits, there's like if the Chiefs play softer, 402 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 2: you know, if they played more towards the past, that 403 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 2: that's just gonna make the Titans run more. And he's 404 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 2: just so good at generating explosive plays, whereas you know, 405 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:43,959 Speaker 2: all you need is like one big run from him, 406 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 2: which he's getting usually multiple in games. 407 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm just bumped it up quite a bit. 408 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's getting the twenty fourteen De Marco Murray treatment 409 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: where they are just running him into the ground. And 410 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: I mean, like, honestly, okay, let's assume that he comes 411 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: back to Tennessee next year. Which I actually don't know 412 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: is a safe assumption, like you would think that they would, 413 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: but the way that they're using him, they might just 414 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: be like, we're running you into the ground and then 415 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: we're letting you go. But assuming he comes back, given 416 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: the usage that we've seen out of him ever since 417 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: Week fourteen of last season, but especially localized what we've 418 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: seen out of him in the second half of the 419 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: season with Ryan Tannehill, how high should he be ranked? 420 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: I know I'm taking this question kind of away from 421 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: the normal conversation, but how high just shooting from the hip, 422 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: do you guys think he should be ranked in twenty 423 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: twenty re draft leagues like third round for the first. 424 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 3: Half of the season? Number one also depends on PPR. 425 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: Let's assume m'ch PPR. Even if it is PPR, what 426 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: does it matter? 427 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 5: Like right, Well, I said that before the season started, 428 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 5: I was saying he's the most likely running back to 429 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 5: play all sixteen games, and I was wrong because he 430 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 5: missed the game. But he's just one of the more 431 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 5: reliable backs. So I didn't get why people a lot 432 00:19:58,240 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 5: of people were calling him a bust in like rounds 433 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 5: five and six. I just didn't get it, like, he's 434 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 5: just a volume monster and that's what you want from 435 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 5: your running back. So yeah, so if he returns to Tennessee, 436 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 5: I could see him being a top five back next 437 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 5: year easily. 438 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm there, even in a PPR format. I just 439 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: I don't think it matters. 440 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 5: So yeah, I would say he has what two years 441 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 5: maybe of this kind of usage before he starts break down. 442 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 3: I don't know he might be able to handle this kind. 443 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 5: Of usage, but yeah, I would say next year we 444 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 5: could expect this level of performance continue. 445 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean he's he's a terminator. He can just 446 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,719 Speaker 1: keep on going out there and no decline in production. 447 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: Let's get to the wide receivers. The two guys at 448 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: the top of our rankings. No surprise here, and I 449 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: think a massive tear drop after these guys, DeVante Adams 450 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: and Tyreek Hill Sean. Who do you like? 451 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 4: So? 452 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 5: I like AJ Brown as sort of the sneaky mid 453 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 5: tier guy. I guess he's the third guy ranked on 454 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 5: my list that makes a mid tier. But you know 455 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 5: he's fifty two hundred. Obviously he's been shut down in 456 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 5: the playoffs by Derrick Henry. You know, they haven't really 457 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 5: had a reason to throw the ball much so if 458 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 5: they get put in a position where they need to throw. 459 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 5: You know, that's how the Titans got to the playoffs. 460 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 5: Technically it was Ryan Tannehill's re emergency and AJ Brown, 461 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 5: So you know, I haven't forgot about him. That this 462 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 5: is a tougher matchup we've talked about last week. Receivers 463 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,719 Speaker 5: tend to struggle against Casey, but I think give him 464 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 5: the recency bias of you know, him being basically invisible, 465 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 5: this could be a breakout game for Brown. So fifty 466 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 5: two hundred, I'll have a ton of him and hopefully 467 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 5: he's low owned and hopefully the Titans have to play 468 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 5: from behind at some point and start throwing the ball. 469 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 5: So I love AJ Brown this week. 470 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: All right? To put some context not only on AJ Brown, 471 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: but the rest of the receivers are starting receivers for 472 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: the Titans. Corey Davis and Taj Sharp have combined for 473 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: four receptions and twenty two yards into a touchdown thrown 474 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: by a running back on thirteen targets in the playoffs. 475 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: Twenty two yards hashtag not good. But you're saying there's 476 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: going to be the term. 477 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 5: Well, well, I throw it when Derek Henry has been 478 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 5: running defenses over So I'm just saying, if Gamescript flips 479 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 5: and they have to, you know, come back, that's that's 480 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 5: basically all I'm banking on. But yeah, if Henry gets 481 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 5: thirty five carries and they win by fifteen, obviously Brown's 482 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 5: gonna be a terrible play. 483 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 3: But you got to take some chances on this late, right. 484 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, your ranking here in enthusiasm for AJ Brown is 485 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: all in keeping with the fact that you said a 486 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: prop of one hundred rushing yards for Jack Henry. 487 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 3: True. True, I guess I have low on Derrick Henry. 488 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it makes sense. Raymond, who do you like? 489 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 2: I have Tyreek over DeVante, so I like him, But 490 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 2: I think that that's just a matter of that tier. 491 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 4: You could argue probably either way. 492 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 2: But as far as guys under that, I have Debo 493 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 2: and Emmanuel Sanders both over AJ Brown. 494 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 4: And it's kind of ugly here. 495 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 2: It's just giving how few pass attempts Ryan Tanneo has had, 496 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 2: and then even when he's had, you know, a decent 497 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 2: number of pass attempts, they've spread the ball around a ton. 498 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I think it was as a Khalif Raymond, 499 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: who got the long touchdown last week, and they're just 500 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 2: kind of throw using all these different receivers and trick 501 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 2: plays and tight ends, and it's. 502 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 4: Just it's just tough for me. So yeah, I'm going 503 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 4: with the with the. 504 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 2: Two Niners receivers as the guys I'll probably have a 505 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 2: little overweight exposure on, just because I think that this 506 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 2: game is a game where, you know, Shanahan he cooks. 507 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 2: He he'll cook up some different things, and I just 508 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 2: trust him more than the Titans, who I think there's 509 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 2: just such a low floor of in terms of the 510 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 2: past viron. 511 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: All right, the I understand the perspective on Tyreek Hill, 512 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: and I actually I do like him a lot. I 513 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: think he has a tougher matchup against Dori Jackson, but 514 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: whenever he goes into the slot, he's gonna have a 515 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: great matchup against Logan Ryan, maybe one of the best 516 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: matchups on the slate. So uh, you know, I am 517 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: bullish on him, But I do like Devonte Adams a 518 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: little bit more. He is the entirety of the receiving offense. 519 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of embarrassing how many yards in 520 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: receptions he accounts for. In the entirety of that passing game, 521 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: and since he returned from injuring Week nine, he's had 522 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 1: eleven point three targets per game. Over his thirteen games 523 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: this year, including the playoffs, he's had either one hundred 524 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: yards or a touchdown on a per game basis. He's 525 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: basically been pretty similar to DeAndre Hopkins, who you know, 526 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: had his third straight All Pro campaign, but he's he's 527 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: still very much the guy in that offense, and it's 528 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: a tough matchup against a forty nine ers pass defense 529 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: that I have a lot of respect for. But the 530 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: the sort of silver lining around this cloud is that 531 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: DeVante Adams doesn't line up all that much at right 532 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: wide receiver, so he's going to be able to avoid 533 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: Richard Sherman for seventy to eighty percent of his routes. 534 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: And when he's you know, lined up with left wide receiver, 535 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: he's going to be going against Emmanuel Mosley, who is 536 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: still good, but is I would say, like a great 537 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: backup as opposed to a locked in starter, even though 538 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: they are going to be starting him now, Like, given 539 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: the difficulty of the matchup, it's about as good as 540 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: it could be for him, and he's still going to 541 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: get tons of targets. So that's where I am on Adams. Sean, 542 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: who are you relatively low on? 543 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 5: So I guess I'm low on Kendrick Bourne just because 544 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 5: I think he'll be a popular play at forty two hundred. 545 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 5: He's been on a touchdown tear of late, obviously the 546 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 5: touchdown last week, so I think people just gravitate towards him. 547 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 5: But he's really not going to get you more than 548 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 5: two to three catches tops, So just at his expected ownership, 549 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 5: I think he's an obvious fade and hope he doesn't 550 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 5: catch a touchdown. But basically, any guys in this range, 551 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 5: like Corey Davis Allenzard, they're just too expensive for this slate. 552 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 5: You can make case for a guy like Miko Hardman, 553 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 5: just you know, a random flyer who could get a 554 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 5: seven yard touchdown, But other than that, I think I'm 555 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 5: going to stick towards the top with DeVante Adams, like 556 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 5: you said, Tarry Hill and My boy A j. Brown, 557 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 5: and then a ton of Deebo Samuel and Mayole Sanders 558 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 5: with Jimmy Stack. So I just think this wholes around 559 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,719 Speaker 5: Kendrick Borne could be popular. In reality, you know they're 560 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 5: over price this week. 561 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: Okay, now this is about to be a fantastic segment 562 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: because Sean said that he is high on A. J. Brown, 563 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: and I said that I am high on Deafonte Adams, 564 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: and Raybond has in the outline that he is low 565 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: on both. So Raybon tell us why we are wrong. 566 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 2: I mean, we already kind of went over it. So Adams, 567 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: you know, I still think he's the clear number two receiver. 568 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 2: And he did get a touchdown in that San Francisco game, 569 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 2: and that just speaks to how many targets he gets. 570 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 4: So I think that he's still a tier above all 571 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 4: these other guys. 572 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 2: But there is there is a lower four than usual, 573 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 2: and I think you can see that by the amount 574 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: of yards that he got. Because this San Francisco defense, 575 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 2: it's not just about Richard Rman. It's about the entirety 576 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: of the defense. You know, especially with Kawan ale xanderback, 577 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 2: you can play his z own and you have a 578 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 2: linebacker that can you know, go sideline a sideline. You 579 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 2: have Moseley on the other side. I mean, once he 580 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 2: came in, Stefan Diggs had one catch. You know, he 581 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 2: had the Digs have the touchdown catch one on one 582 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 2: on on a Kilo Witherards Boon and then Moseley comes 583 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 2: in and is you know, goes quiet. So this is 584 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 2: it speaks to just the team defense. So I think 585 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 2: it's there is a low floor here and there is 586 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: a scenario where you know, if Deebo or or Manny 587 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 2: makes a big play, gets a touchdown, that that that 588 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 2: that they can outscore Adams just on efficiency. But so yeah, 589 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 2: that's why I have Adam's going then aj Brown, It's 590 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 2: just I have them five. I just have him out 591 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 2: the other side of that, Deebo, Manny Sanders here for 592 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: kind of the same reason. I think both of those 593 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 2: teams are at risk, you know, San Francisco and Tennessee 594 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 2: of you know, not throwing the ball very often, but 595 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: Tennessee has shown kind of more of a propensity to 596 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 2: do that. And then you add in the fact that 597 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 2: Kansas City has been kind of a team that funnels 598 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 2: there the football way from wide receivers. They play about 599 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: a single two safeties deep and they'll play man coverage underneath. 600 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 2: So essentially, you know, you have man coverage on the 601 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 2: on the outside wide receivers and then you have safeties 602 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 2: over the top. So uh, they're kind of a tight 603 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 2: end funnel, a little bit more of a you know, 604 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 2: running back funnel as well, So the floor is still 605 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: you know, one catch for I think that we've seen 606 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 2: whereas you know, Sanders and Debo usually get at least 607 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 2: a couple two to three catches in a given game. 608 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: All Right, the guy I'm relatively low on is Sanders, 609 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: and it has to do more with Debo than with Sanders. 610 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: You know, I think Debo what he's done since Sanders 611 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: joined the team has basically been twenty eighteen DJ more 612 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: type of production, just in terms of his all around 613 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: skill set, the way they're using him. And in this matchup, 614 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: Deebo is, I'm projecting to run most at the weakest 615 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: cornerback left in the playoffs, and that is Kevin King, 616 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: who's allowed i think like one point seven one point 617 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: seven to five yards per route run per Pro Football Focus. 618 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: So not a great performance there from Kevin King. This season, Deebo, 619 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: I think is going to be the guy who gets 620 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: to exploit him the most. And then Amyane Old Sanders, 621 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: by juxtaposition, is going to have to run most of 622 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: his routes against either Tremon Williams or Jay r Alexander, 623 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: and those are the two stronger cornerbacks within the secondary 624 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: for the Packers. So I mean, I still think Sanders 625 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: is a top five wide receiver for me, Like the 626 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: gap between Debot and Sanders is probably bigger than people 627 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: would maybe expect. So just relatively low on Sanders there, 628 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: Sean give us the prop. 629 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 5: Let's set the records on AJ Brown and make sure 630 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 5: I'm not going overboard on him. I think you'll find 631 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 5: my medium projection isn't that high. Just I like his 632 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 5: upside on two games slate, but I have his receiving 633 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 5: yard projection at fifty five and a half. 634 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: I have him at fifty four point seven, so I'll 635 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 2: go under. But yeah, that's a good line pretty much. 636 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 5: I'm not like insane about I don't have a projector 637 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 5: like ninety seven yards or something just to settle fifty 638 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 5: five yards. 639 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, which he could get in one play, like he 640 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 2: could have his one cat could be for fifty five. Yeah. 641 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 3: I think with him. 642 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 5: I think with him it's mostly his touchdown upside in 643 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 5: my model versus target upside. But yeah, like like you said, 644 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 5: just one big play from him, can he can have value? 645 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: I have him at fifty eight point five. I don't 646 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: like that my projection is higher than yours, Like I 647 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: want to be I want to be honest. 648 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a wide range of outcome guy. So yeah, 649 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 5: he's like, i'm's going to be a bit low. I mean, 650 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 5: this is going to make me change my projection. I'm 651 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 5: just saying I'm taking the under. There's okay, I'm not 652 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 5: gonna I'm not gonna be on the over on A J. 653 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 5: Brown this week, tight ends. 654 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: I mean this is painful to I guess even have 655 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: a segment on this. I mean the two guys at 656 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: the top, Kelsey and Kittle, Sean, who do you like 657 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: this week? 658 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 5: That's last week I was at least able to like 659 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 5: pry up Darren Fells as darth Row, who I sprinkled 660 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 5: in some of my lamps. 661 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 3: This week, I don't even have that. I don't want 662 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 3: any of John new Smith, I don't want any of 663 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 3: Jimmy Graham. Anthony F. 664 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 5: Fokser has seen a decrease in routs per run, so 665 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 5: I can't even recommend him as Darthrow. I will have 666 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 5: nothing but Kelsey and Kittle and oftentimes in the same 667 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 5: line up, so you know, using one in the flex, 668 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 5: I think playing both make since again this week. So yeah, 669 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 5: I can't really recommend anybody else outside as too, And 670 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 5: I tried really hard to find somebody just couldn't do it. 671 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: On what about you? 672 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 2: You know, I have Kelsey number one and Kittle number two, 673 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 2: and obviously Kelsey's you know, how everything went last week 674 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 2: kind of plays into that, you know, just with the 675 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 2: season one numbers. But I will say that you know, 676 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 2: Kittle now coming off of that you know, bad matchup 677 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 2: and into a better one, and and Kelsey going against 678 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 2: the Titans team that they tend to they don't blitzle out. 679 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,239 Speaker 2: What they tend to do is try to double your 680 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 2: two best guys at times, like they were doubling Edelman 681 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 2: and James White on key plays in that Patriots game. 682 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 2: So like, I think a lot of people will all 683 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 2: probably have Kittle number two and Kelsey number one, but 684 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 2: like there's a there's a there's something to be said 685 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 2: for Kittle over Kelsey this week, like things could easily 686 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 2: kind of flip around. 687 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 4: But after that, I mean, I would. 688 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 2: Just say any Titans tight end because again, the Chiefs 689 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 2: tend to funnel the ball to that position a little 690 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 2: bit and you know, there's really you can't you can't 691 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 2: even look at the route for these guys because there's 692 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 2: only like fourteen drop packs. So I mean, I think 693 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 2: I think any like I think I think any one 694 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 2: of them, on some type of trick play or whatever 695 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 2: red zone target get a touchdown. I mean, John Smith 696 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 2: is probably the guy I would I would recommend outside 697 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 2: of the top two, just because you know, we saw 698 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 2: him get make that brilliant catch in the red zone 699 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 2: last week, and I think if they get down, you know, 700 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 2: he's one of their better receivers, I mean, arguably better 701 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 2: than pretty much all of their other pass catchers outside 702 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 2: of AJ. So I think he has some upside in 703 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 2: his matchup. But he's also their guy that block. He 704 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 2: blocks a lot more than ferkster H. So yeah, it's tough. 705 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with raveon there. I I mean, I don't 706 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: want John new Smith. I doubt he will actually be 707 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: in any of my lineups, But I think in comparison 708 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: to Jimmy Graham, I'm relatively high on Smith. I guess 709 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: I would say I'm also and this is to Raymond's point, 710 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: also probably higher on Kittle. Like from a DFS perspective 711 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: higher on on Kittle relative to kel Like I still 712 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: have Kelsey projected for more, but I maybe prefer Kittle, 713 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: but Smith relative to Graham, I think there's a pretty 714 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: big tear break. Even though Graham actually did have some 715 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: production last week in his hashtag revenge game, I'm not 716 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: buying him against a forty nine Ers defense that has 717 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: been strong against titands for most of the season and 718 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: last week got back it's primary tight end defender in 719 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: Jaquisky Tart. So I once absolutely none of Jimmy Graham, 720 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: which is like the guy I'm low on, and so 721 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: by juxtaposition that means I'm relatively high on Smith. And 722 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: as Chris said, but he does have potential, Like he's 723 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: a guy who is an athletic I mean, I don't 724 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: want to say like freak, because I don't think that 725 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: he's quite he's quite there, but like he's like an 726 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: athletically very capable tight end, Like they give him the 727 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: ball in the running game, Like there are things that 728 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: they can do with him. And I'm bullish on him 729 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty. So you know that's maybe also kind 730 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: of coloring like how I'm thinking about him in this slate, 731 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: But I just I'm really high on him in comparison 732 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: to someone like Jimmy Graham, who I do is like 733 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: a walking plague, right, and just. 734 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 5: Real quick, I just have to get this out there. 735 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 5: But on a two game slate, sometimes doing something crazy 736 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 5: can pay off. So I think I'll have one team, 737 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 5: just one team with Blake Bell at tight end instead 738 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 5: of Kelsey and hear me out. You know, Kelsey has 739 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 5: this knee issue he's been dealing with. It actually knocked 740 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 5: him out of the game for a few plays last week. 741 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 5: So if he has some sort of in game flare 742 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 5: up or something, Blake Bell would be the starting tight 743 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 5: end and you know we'll be less than one percent 744 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 5: on and could take down GPP. I'm sorry, I how 745 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 5: to just put it out there, but two game slates 746 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 5: sometimes you need something crazy like that to happen. So 747 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:46,959 Speaker 5: I'll have one Blake Bell team. 748 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 1: So, Raymond, I hate Jimmy Graham. I'm assuming that you 749 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: were there with me. 750 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's really just I mean, oh, the Packers 751 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 2: tight ends, Marceadi's Lewis, Robert Tanyan, and Jay Sternberger. They 752 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 2: all were involved forty percent of the routes for Tanyan 753 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 2: and Lewis, and then twenty four percent for Sternberger. So 754 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 2: I mean Graham didn't really even that was a good 755 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 2: matchup for him last week and kind of pointed that out, 756 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 2: you know, but he only ran fifty four percent of 757 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 2: the route. 758 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,479 Speaker 4: So yeah, it could go very wrong for Jimmy Graham 759 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 4: in this one. 760 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: All right, Sean, who are you relatively low on? 761 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 5: Well, basically anybody not named Kelseer Kittle. I mean I 762 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 5: already said pretty much won everybody else Blake Bell the 763 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 5: random dart throw. 764 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 3: Other than that, we will have no Like I've. 765 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 5: Been fading Jimmy Graham since week eight when I was 766 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 5: making fun of Aaron Rodgers' reactions. Tantumy's really passive. So yeah, 767 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 5: I don't like anybody on the slate outside of those 768 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 5: the top two guys. 769 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 1: All right, give us the prop. 770 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 5: I mean I had to get a little unique here. 771 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 5: So total touchdowns by Travis Kelsey and George Kittle combined, 772 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 5: will it be zero, one or two or more? So 773 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 5: I have all three of those buckets being equal, like 774 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 5: thirty three percent chance each one. 775 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with one one exactly. 776 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll go two or more because I like, I 777 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: like the most touchdown upside for both of those guys. 778 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: Next and yeah, Yeah, that's gonna do it. For this 779 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 1: episode of the Action Network podcast. 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