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Speaker 1: twenty twenty NFL schedule includes a rare Friday game. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have an NFL game on every day of the
Speaker 1: week because the day after Christmas you have a Friday game.
Speaker 1: The game will be played on December twenty fifth, New
Speaker 1: Orleans vikings in the Saints. So for the first time
Speaker 1: in a decade, more than a decade, you'll have a
Speaker 1: Friday game. The NFL schedule released on Thursday, and it
Speaker 1: has some quirks there, the rare Friday game. You have
Speaker 1: the Wednesday game coming up. I don't know if you'll
Speaker 1: see more of this coming up, but you know we're
Speaker 1: seeing this because it's out of desperation that you're having
Speaker 1: Tuesday games Wednesday games. Hopefully that things return to normal
Speaker 1: whatever that's going to be next season, but you will
Speaker 1: have a Friday game. Is so rare. There have only
Speaker 1: been ten ever since the NFL AFL merger in nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy and this year's game will mark just the fifth
Speaker 1: time it's happened since nineteen ninety three. But desperate times,
Speaker 1: desperate measures here, and you'll have a game coming up
Speaker 1: tomorrow afternoon because NBC has primetime the Christmas Lighting Special,
Speaker 1: and therefore you have to have the football game in
Speaker 1: the afternoon. All right, A couple of things when you
Speaker 1: start to look at last night's game, you're going to
Speaker 1: take away the headlines depending on who you're rooting for
Speaker 1: where you live. You know, Seattle got the win, and
Speaker 1: that's a big win because the Rams lost to the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers in dramatic fashion, and Seattle's trying to
Speaker 1: win that division because you want to have a home
Speaker 1: playoff game at least one. You know, the Buccaneers aren't
Speaker 1: going to the super Bowl this year. They're going to
Speaker 1: be on the road for as long as they keep winning,
Speaker 1: they'll be on the road in the playoffs. But they're
Speaker 1: not going to be going to the super Bowl in
Speaker 1: my opinion, playing the way they play, and they're going
Speaker 1: to be on the road for all those games. And
Speaker 1: they haven't done well against good teams aside from Green Bay,
Speaker 1: and are they going to get nine or ten wins? Thankfully,
Speaker 1: there is that seventh playoff spot. They may extend it
Speaker 1: to eight playoff spots depending on what happens with the
Speaker 1: rest of the schedule there. But Seattle gotta win there.
Speaker 1: The defense, I don't know if the defense is getting
Speaker 1: a lot better because Philadelphia's offense is not very good,
Speaker 1: but they are able to make some impact with players
Speaker 1: like Jamal Adams and Carlos Dunlap. Like they have impact
Speaker 1: players there and that's something they have not had. You
Speaker 1: get Russell Wilson that offense, it seems like they're a
Speaker 1: little bit more balanced than they were earlier in the
Speaker 1: year when Russ was throwing it, you know, as much
Speaker 1: as we've ever seen him, and they went into that game.
Speaker 1: They survived that game. It wasn't as close as the
Speaker 1: score would indicate, but those the games that you have
Speaker 1: to win, and Seattle got that win last night. The
Speaker 1: other headline is going to be with Carson Wentz and
Speaker 1: the Eagles. They're still only a half game out of
Speaker 1: first place. They might still win the division, and I
Speaker 1: can't imagine you would win a division as a coach
Speaker 1: ever been fired winning a division. Ron Jowarskalne Last Hour
Speaker 1: in Jaws, does the Eagles games and he said that
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson will be back next year and Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: is going to be back next year. I understand Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz coming back because you got a whole lot of
Speaker 1: money tied up in his contract with Doug Peterson. Is
Speaker 1: he now expendable? And how long is that grace period
Speaker 1: after you win a title. We brought up Jane Chiswick
Speaker 1: a week or so ago where he ended up winning
Speaker 1: a title at Auburn, and then it was a few
Speaker 1: years later where he got fired. Joe Madden with the Cubs.
Speaker 1: You know, Joe Madden, you won the World Series. The
Speaker 1: Cubs finally win a World Series and then it's a
Speaker 1: Joe got some nice parting gifts for you. But is
Speaker 1: that where we are with Doug Peterson In Philadelphia. It's
Speaker 1: a tough town. They got their Super Bowl and they're
Speaker 1: not satisfied. So I don't know if Philadelphia does something
Speaker 1: as drastic as that, But you got a situation here
Speaker 1: where something's got to change in Philadelphia, and I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's a quick There's no band aid here
Speaker 1: and it's no quick rebuild there either. Now that's a
Speaker 1: team that one had some star players. They all aligned
Speaker 1: when they beat New England with Nick Foles. Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: is obviously struggling. Jalen Hurts is not the answer right
Speaker 1: now because, to be fair to Jalen Hurts, he didn't
Speaker 1: have an offseason workout, he didn't have preseason games. That's
Speaker 1: what quarterbacks normally get. And Jalen Hurts coming into this situation,
Speaker 1: obviously they think a lot of him. They took him
Speaker 1: in the second room. But this might be just one
Speaker 1: of those where Carson Wentz has to just kind of
Speaker 1: slug it out the rest of the year. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't have Here is Washington with Alex Smith, Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones is out this week, Dallas doesn't have Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: I mean, imagine if I was saying at the start
Speaker 1: of the season, hey, here's this scenario. By the way,
Speaker 1: Alex Smith is going to be starting for Washington and
Speaker 1: they'll be winning. Daniel Jones will play well, they'll be
Speaker 1: in first place, but he'll be injured. Dak Prescott is
Speaker 1: not going to play this year, and Carson Wentz may
Speaker 1: lose his job. That's the NFC East in a nutshew
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Speaker 1: pull question today perhaps Yep, we have a what's the
Speaker 1: worst quarterback situation in the league? And I think there's
Speaker 1: some recency bias because the leaders are the Eagles and
Speaker 1: the Broncos, all right, I mean I think it's the
Speaker 1: Bears because you could you could put Trevor Lawrence justin
Speaker 1: fields or Trey Lance there and they're still going to
Speaker 1: be a Bears quarterback at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: It's cursed. There's no more helpless feeling for an NFL
Speaker 1: defense than when it comes to trying to cover a
Speaker 1: wide receiver that they can't cover. And we saw that
Speaker 1: a couple of times. In Week twelve, Tyreek Hill had
Speaker 1: over two hundred yards two touchdowns in the first quarter
Speaker 1: against Tampa Bay. Then last night, yeah, DK Metcalfe, he
Speaker 1: took over the Seahawks beating the Eagles, and Metcalfe and
Speaker 1: Hill sit at one two in the league in receiving yards. Now,
Speaker 1: they also have two very good quarterbacks, two very good
Speaker 1: offensive lines. At least Kansas City has a very good
Speaker 1: offensive line Russell Wilson and Patrick Mahomes. But give Metcalfe
Speaker 1: and Hill a lot of credit because they're unique players.
Speaker 1: Metcalfe fell to the second round of the twenty nineteen draft,
Speaker 1: and it was almost as if he was too good
Speaker 1: to be true physically. But none of those draft concerns
Speaker 1: came true. You know, he had a serious injury when
Speaker 1: he was in college. They didn't know if he was
Speaker 1: flexible enough. It felt like he was just you know,
Speaker 1: this brute force out there who could run a four
Speaker 1: three forty Hill is unstoppable. Now, there were off the
Speaker 1: field concerns that he's a hard guy to root for,
Speaker 1: But your defense has to be your whole defense has
Speaker 1: to be on alert when those players are on the field.
Speaker 1: And that's what I didn't understand with what happened in
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. Then you know, Ron Jworski said there were
Speaker 1: a couple of blown coverages there and that's how Tyreek
Speaker 1: Hill got wide open. You got single coverage on DK metcalf.
Speaker 1: I don't I love Tyler Lockett, but I'm really concerned
Speaker 1: about Dk metcalf and single coverage is not going to
Speaker 1: cut it, not with somebody like that. Yeah, Paul and
Speaker 1: I went back and looked at during a break in
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf's draft profiles, and then the weaknesses were almost
Speaker 1: all the same. Besides the injuries, people talked about his
Speaker 1: hands and his lack of consistency catching the ball. They
Speaker 1: was not graded out very well at all as a
Speaker 1: route runner, and a lot of people were feared that
Speaker 1: people would fall in love with his combine times and
Speaker 1: his weightlifting and he would be a bust. So that's
Speaker 1: why nobody looked at him in the first round. They
Speaker 1: thought the downside was too much, more so than the upside. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's why when I hear this, everybody passed on him. Okay,
Speaker 1: but they passed on him. There were probably eight teams
Speaker 1: that took him off their draft board because they weren't
Speaker 1: sure about the injury that he had in college, and
Speaker 1: he didn't have a great combine work out. When it
Speaker 1: came to the other things, you know, the three cone drill, however,
Speaker 1: you know that became so important, but it did. You know,
Speaker 1: he could bench press and he could run, but they
Speaker 1: didn't know if he was just a straight ahead type runner.
Speaker 1: And that's why I look at him like a tarall Owens.
Speaker 1: Tarall Owens is a better route runner, a better receiver
Speaker 1: but DK Metcalf, to use the words of Jim Schwartz,
Speaker 1: is well on his way. He's not Megatron yet, but
Speaker 1: he's well on his way. How that became a slight,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I do want to know how Jim
Speaker 1: Schwartz said that he's the Eagles defensive coordinator because he
Speaker 1: can always, you know, give you a little jab there.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I wouldn't want to do that
Speaker 1: to DK Metcalf before a game start. I wouldn't want
Speaker 1: to go up there and go, I'm gonna get in
Speaker 1: his head. I'm gonna say that he's not Calvin Johnson,
Speaker 1: but he's well on his way. That doesn't sound like
Speaker 1: a real slight. Sounds like a pretty good compliment to me.
Speaker 1: But DK Metcalf spun that into it was somehowuse like
Speaker 1: in fact, when you listen to the question and listen
Speaker 1: to the answer, the answer has nothing to do with
Speaker 1: the question that's asked. If DK Metcalf after last night's win,
Speaker 1: what's your mindset going into a game when you know
Speaker 1: or when you feel like you're going to see a
Speaker 1: lot of opposing teams number one cornerback, Well, what's your
Speaker 1: mindset going into it? I'm happy I'm getting a little respect,
Speaker 1: but you know, I still got work to do. Um.
Speaker 1: One of the defensive coaches came up to me, and
Speaker 1: it kind of made me mad that he was like, Um,
Speaker 1: you know I was. I was in Detroit with Megatron,
Speaker 1: but you're not there yet. Um. You know, in my mind,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be Megatron. I'm trying to be me.
Speaker 1: So um. You know, it had had a little chip
Speaker 1: on my should of the whole game was that Jim Schwartz, Yes, sir, okay, Now,
Speaker 1: if I look at it and listen to it the
Speaker 1: way he says it, yeah, you're I was with Megatron,
Speaker 1: you're not there yet. Like I could say it in
Speaker 1: a way that might be negative, But I don't know
Speaker 1: if Jim Schwartz would go you know what, I'm going
Speaker 1: to tug on Superman's Cape here started the game. I'm gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, say, hey, I was there, I was a
Speaker 1: Megatron's coach in Detroit. You're not there, but like you're
Speaker 1: not there, but you're on your way. Like I guess
Speaker 1: I could say it in a way where DK Metcalf
Speaker 1: would go away, what's he saying? I guess if I
Speaker 1: wanted to really look hard at this and go all right,
Speaker 1: maybe Jim Schwartz did do it. DK Metcalf thought about
Speaker 1: it for four hours last night pre game, during the game,
Speaker 1: after the game, I also thought found this interesting. Of
Speaker 1: the current top three in the NFL and rushing yards,
Speaker 1: so you have Henry Cook and James Robinson and also
Speaker 1: the top three in receiving yards. Metcalf, Hill and Kelsey
Speaker 1: none were drafted in the first round. Since the merger,
Speaker 1: it has never ever happened where there were no first
Speaker 1: rounders among the top three in rushing yards or receiving
Speaker 1: yards at season's end. You're looking for those skill position players.
Speaker 1: We talk about it usually every draft or after the draft.
Speaker 1: You can find wide receivers and you can find running backs,
Speaker 1: and you can do so outside of the first round.
Speaker 1: You know, for me, I look for the edge rusher,
Speaker 1: if I can get a lockdown corner, and if I
Speaker 1: can get good offensive linemen. I mean, That's what I'm
Speaker 1: looking for. And it feels like it's really hard. You know,
Speaker 1: Detroit may have whipped on Jeff Okuda and he was
Speaker 1: supposed to be you can't miss with this guy. You're
Speaker 1: looking for the we see teams draft in the top
Speaker 1: five offensive lineman and they whiff on those offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: Edge rushers. You're looking for one. So as much as
Speaker 1: we want to go, it's really hard to pick a quarterback.
Speaker 1: It's hard to pick other positions that are not as
Speaker 1: integral as a quarterback is, but pretty close to it,
Speaker 1: because you've got to have a good offensive line, and
Speaker 1: if you see a successful quarterback, chances are he is
Speaker 1: bolstered by a great offensive line. We'll check in with
Speaker 1: the Ravens coming up and we'll get some phone calls here.
Speaker 1: Pete and Seattle joints us leads us off this hour
Speaker 1: high Pete, what's on your mind? Dot metcalf Dan, we
Speaker 1: love him. He's gonna be great. He's fantastic. Yeah, physical,
Speaker 1: tough catches, speed, breaks away. He's gone. He's still on
Speaker 1: training wheel Stan. These patterns are inexact. He drops some
Speaker 1: easy catches and unfortunately Polly took me out of that
Speaker 1: with his draft profile. But also something they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to watch. Russell mentored him down in Mexico. I'm sure
Speaker 1: he taught him all about the physical things you needed
Speaker 1: to be as a wide receiver, but he had two
Speaker 1: or three situations last night. If the officials were looking
Speaker 1: the other way, he would have gotten the personal thousand
Speaker 1: instead of a sleigh. He's got to watch it. He's
Speaker 1: got a lot of growing up to do. We love it. Yeah, Pete,
Speaker 1: I'm all on board. Like DK, Metcalf is just starting out.
Speaker 1: He's just learning the position. You find this with a
Speaker 1: lot of quarterbacks who are looking for receivers. And that's
Speaker 1: why an experienced receiver doesn't have the physical capabilities of
Speaker 1: somebody younger can still hang, they can still have a
Speaker 1: job in the league because they know how to play
Speaker 1: the position, They know routes to run, they know secrets
Speaker 1: of the position. Just athleticism. Nikkil Harry has tons of
Speaker 1: athleticism for the Patriots. He can't play and the draft
Speaker 1: is littered with guys like that. Where you go, God,
Speaker 1: what happened playing receiver in the NFL. It's not just
Speaker 1: I'm really fast, I'm really big, or I'm really quick.
Speaker 1: There's so much more that goes into it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mcclub this year. Everybody miss on Chase Claypool. He's if
Speaker 1: you go back, he's obvious and Justin Jefferson fell to
Speaker 1: like the fifth receiver. So how do you evaluate are
Speaker 1: certain teams better than other teams at this? Well, sometimes
Speaker 1: it's the system you're in. If Chase Claypool at Notre Dame,
Speaker 1: was he showcased enough that you were able to really
Speaker 1: tell just how good he was going to be? Do
Speaker 1: you have the draft profile with Chase Claypool polling? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's almost exactly like DK metcalfs. They love his height,
Speaker 1: they love his strength, they love his speed. They concerned
Speaker 1: about his acceleration off the line. Is he too slow
Speaker 1: right off the line. They're concerned about his route running.
Speaker 1: They're concerned big time about his hands. They said, did
Speaker 1: you not see enough of him in the Ian book
Speaker 1: offense with Notre Dame? So there is a lot more
Speaker 1: what we don't know than what we know. Similar to
Speaker 1: DK metcalf okay, and who was the other receiver that
Speaker 1: he brought up? Justin? Justin Jefferson? We saw him dominate
Speaker 1: the final four, Like, how did we miss on that guy?
Speaker 1: I mean he went twenty third, But how did Jalen Rager,
Speaker 1: who's unproven at TCU go ahead of Justin two? I
Speaker 1: know that once again that the great mystery, Although I
Speaker 1: said after watching l SUE a few times. They had
Speaker 1: as good at skill position players as I've ever seen
Speaker 1: on a college football team, and those wide receivers. That's
Speaker 1: why I didn't know how to evaluate Joe Burrow because
Speaker 1: it just felt like like Dwayne Haskins at Ohio State,
Speaker 1: but to a lesser degree because LSU had a whole
Speaker 1: lot of talent there By the way LSU plays Alabama
Speaker 1: this week, Yeah, that's the way I reacted. I went, wait,
Speaker 1: they do no fanfare, Nobody talking about that again. The
Speaker 1: only reason why they're talking about the game is Nick
Speaker 1: Saban's coming back from COVID. But other than that, not
Speaker 1: a whole lot going on there. Terry and New York jointes. Hi, Terry,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind? How are you doing? Dance? Good? Sir?
Speaker 1: I was good good. I wanted to talk about is fun.
Speaker 1: You guys mentioned the receivers. Megatron man, I remember Flipper
Speaker 1: Andis in nineteen eighty nine. Their records over thirty years old,
Speaker 1: now three hundred thirty six yards. I watched that game
Speaker 1: with my father, man, and uh, every time somebody gets
Speaker 1: close to breaking his record, I no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: don't break it. Don't break it. I don't want to
Speaker 1: buy to break that record. You know, Flip Flipper Anderson
Speaker 1: wasn't a great receiver, but he was a good receiver
Speaker 1: like you were talking about with the other guys earlier.
Speaker 1: You know, he was a solid receiver man, and he
Speaker 1: can always say I got that record and I wanted to. Actually, then,
Speaker 1: is there a rememberable memorable sport moment or a game
Speaker 1: did you watch with your dad? Did you can remember
Speaker 1: that people remember to this day. Uh, well, my dad's dad,
Speaker 1: So no. I think I watched games, but I don't
Speaker 1: remember that we sat around and watched something. I remember
Speaker 1: watching games, but and my dad might have been in
Speaker 1: the room, but obviously in my own little world like
Speaker 1: I didn't. It wasn't one of those where it was
Speaker 1: a family type ATMO sphere. Even the Ice Bowl with
Speaker 1: Green Bay and Dallas, I remember watching in the living room.
Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody else was in the living room,
Speaker 1: but I just remember that it was one of those
Speaker 1: games that I just I couldn't imagine how you played
Speaker 1: football and weather like that, and then the quarterback sneak
Speaker 1: by bard Starr and then they ended up going to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Yeah, Paul, the one thing I remember
Speaker 1: about watching football with my dad is the one and
Speaker 1: only time I heard my dad used the F word
Speaker 1: was in response to an Earl Campbell run. Earl Campbell
Speaker 1: was a rookie or a second year player with the
Speaker 1: Houston Oilers and he broke a run. It was on
Speaker 1: National TV or Monday Night Football, I can't remember which.
Speaker 1: My dad jumped up, and I remember he goes, Holy
Speaker 1: F and the whole family just puckered up because we'd
Speaker 1: never heard him say that before. He was not, you know,
Speaker 1: he was a BS guy. And I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know who Earl Campbell is, but I'm gonna check
Speaker 1: this guy out. And you know, Flipper Anderson I think
Speaker 1: was out of UCLA. That sound right, But Henry Ellard
Speaker 1: was always the Rams receiver. He was he was the
Speaker 1: the great receiver there. It just it felt like that.
Speaker 1: But Flipper Anderson and and his name comes up occasionally
Speaker 1: usually when you have one of these big games by
Speaker 1: somebody else. But Flipper Anderson put up some pretty big
Speaker 1: numbers there. Jimmy Smith that Jacksonville did that he had
Speaker 1: like almost three hundred yards. Reggie Wayne had one of those.
Speaker 1: Chad Johnson had one of those, but Flipper with fifteen
Speaker 1: catches in that game in nineteen eighty nine, thirty six
Speaker 1: yards and one touchdown. I believe we'll take a break.
Speaker 1: We'll check in with the Ravens coming up. More phone
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Speaker 1: the update. Okay, so far we have, which franchise is
Speaker 1: in the worst situation QB wise, the Eagles are running
Speaker 1: away with it. I had of teams like Washington, Chicago, Detroit, Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: and Denver. Denver's actually in second place. Are you doing
Speaker 1: that based off the quarterbacking sit Yeah, like sort of
Speaker 1: what's the future? You know, because Jacksonville Elise will get
Speaker 1: the number two spots, so they're probably at least it
Speaker 1: seems like there will question what if the Eagles get
Speaker 1: the fourth spot and Cincinnati's at three, they won't draft
Speaker 1: a quarterback and the Eagles are looking at Trey Lance
Speaker 1: ironically North Dakota State, would they pull the trigger and
Speaker 1: take another? No? Are you sure? I mean, there's not
Speaker 1: a lot of opportunities to get that high. Okay, but
Speaker 1: what are you doing with Carson Wentz? I don't know. Well,
Speaker 1: that's answer that, and then you'll get your answer to
Speaker 1: Trey Lance, trade him, to trade him to Indie frank
Speaker 1: Reich reunited future there all right? I like that scenario
Speaker 1: this from Andrew Brandt. If the Ravens Steelers game happens tomorrow,
Speaker 1: it's hard to imagine a scenario where an NFL game
Speaker 1: doesn't happen eight straight days of Ravens positive COVID cases,
Speaker 1: twenty plus players affected, dramatic precedent. Jeff Ziebeck is the
Speaker 1: senior staff writer for The Athletic. He covers the Ravens.
Speaker 1: He joins us now, Jeff, thanks for joining us. Where
Speaker 1: are the Ravens players right now? Ravens players are at home,
Speaker 1: but they'll have The hope is that they'll have a
Speaker 1: practice later today, a one another walkthrough practice, which would
Speaker 1: be a second straight day with the walkthrough, and then
Speaker 1: at least the tentative plan tonight is to fly out
Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh, you know, and to continue preparations for the
Speaker 1: game tomorrow afternoon. But of course that's all, you know, pending,
Speaker 1: because they're gonna have to wait to see if there's
Speaker 1: any positive tests from this morning's batch of tests. And
Speaker 1: they're now at nine straight days with positive tests in
Speaker 1: that building, so that's hardly a given that there won't be.
Speaker 1: And there was no chance Lamar Jackson was going to
Speaker 1: be able to play. Yeah, no, you know, he's he's
Speaker 1: in the middle of a you know, a ten day
Speaker 1: isolation after he tested positive over the weekend. The hope
Speaker 1: is that he will have an enough time to be
Speaker 1: back for you know, the Dallas Games was moved to
Speaker 1: next Tuesday. Now, I heard from a source this morning
Speaker 1: and I want to bring this to your attention about
Speaker 1: what has gone on with the Ravens. And this came
Speaker 1: from a league source last night saying that because I said,
Speaker 1: did the Ravens feel like they're being picked on? And
Speaker 1: what I got was classic hypocrisy. They won't be vigilant
Speaker 1: about the protocols in the front end. John Harball crysis
Speaker 1: being screwed on the back end for consequences of said violations.
Speaker 1: His coaching staff was responsible for the outbreak there. What
Speaker 1: do you make of that comment, Well, you know, there's
Speaker 1: still work being done to figure out how you know
Speaker 1: the entry point in the building, But obviously there's a
Speaker 1: lot of focus on the strength and conditioning coach. The
Speaker 1: Ravens disciplined him and suspended him for a while and
Speaker 1: we'll see about that. But yeah, obviously, when you have
Speaker 1: this many cases and we're talking about over thirty now
Speaker 1: in the building, you know, not just counting players, we're
Speaker 1: talking about support staff, you have to wonder whether the
Speaker 1: protocol was all being followed and the Ravens had said
Speaker 1: a lot this year about how comfortable they were with
Speaker 1: the protocol and how much money and time they invested
Speaker 1: in it. And now they've had the team with the
Speaker 1: biggest uh, you know, they've been the team with the
Speaker 1: biggest outbreak in the NFL. So there's obviously some questions
Speaker 1: there that they're going to have to answer in terms
Speaker 1: of whether they're following protocol and what they were and
Speaker 1: we're not doing. I'm trying to separate fact from fiction
Speaker 1: as well when it comes to this story with the Ravens.
Speaker 1: Was there the possibility of a wildcat strike of the Ravens.
Speaker 1: Was that topic broached by the team. I know there
Speaker 1: were some players that were, you know, weren't willing to play.
Speaker 1: They did not want to play Tuesday, and they made
Speaker 1: it clear, and that kind of started on Sunday, you know,
Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon, they had a virtual meeting with NFL chief
Speaker 1: medical guru, doctor Allen Sills, and apparently it was pretty tense,
Speaker 1: and players made clear they weren't happy with how some
Speaker 1: certain situations were being handled. They were particularly disappointed and
Speaker 1: kind of you know, frustrated with the lack of an
Speaker 1: immediate test on game day mornings, I mean this is
Speaker 1: kind of you know, they had multiple positive tests in
Speaker 1: November twenty seconds the morning the Titans game, but all
Speaker 1: those people are on the field and were on the
Speaker 1: sideline because they didn't have the test re built between
Speaker 1: later that night. So it was pretty tense there, you know,
Speaker 1: and they all weren't buying what doctor Sills was saying.
Speaker 1: They were kind of disappointed with some stuff. And then
Speaker 1: the disappointment grew the next morning when they reported to
Speaker 1: practice and they were sent home again because the league
Speaker 1: wasn't ready to have them practice. So yeah, they were,
Speaker 1: and then they had a player's only meeting where they
Speaker 1: kind of decided that, look, we're not playing on you know,
Speaker 1: we're not willing really. Yeah, if I'm confused, shouldn't Steelers
Speaker 1: be upset? Not the Ravens. Well, obviously the Steelers should
Speaker 1: be exad you know what I mean, they now the
Speaker 1: innocent bystander and two of these situations, But the Ravens also,
Speaker 1: you know, have seeky concerns from there end too about
Speaker 1: the whole thing. But obviously, depending on whether the how
Speaker 1: this was brought into their building, you know, there's definitely
Speaker 1: a case could be made that you know, they're at
Speaker 1: fault for a lot of this. How big of a
Speaker 1: disappointment are the Ravens viewed in Baltimore and how they
Speaker 1: handle this is no, no, They're just their performance on
Speaker 1: the field. Oh yeah, there's been a lot of frustration, Dan.
Speaker 1: I mean it's just, you know, they had high expectations
Speaker 1: this year and uh, you know, starting with the offense
Speaker 1: that really hasn't been productive all year, been very inconsistent. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the perception is coorback Mark Jackson has taken a step back.
Speaker 1: They haven't played well, They've been you know, in a
Speaker 1: lot of big games. So yeah, definitely. I mean before,
Speaker 1: you know, the loss of the Titans sort of increase
Speaker 1: the frustration with the team, and ever since we've had
Speaker 1: you know, the COVID outbreak. But I'm also wondering about
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. Did he take a step back or did
Speaker 1: defenses take a step forward. I think it's a combination
Speaker 1: of everything. I Mean, they talked a big game and
Speaker 1: all off season about needing to evolve offensively because they
Speaker 1: knew defenses were gonna have a better handle on what
Speaker 1: they were doing, and they just haven't done that. They
Speaker 1: just haven't been able to adjust to what defenses have
Speaker 1: been doing. I mean some of it's on personnel. The
Speaker 1: offensive line has taken a step back that hasn't helped Jackson.
Speaker 1: They don't have a top knocked receiving corps. But Jackson's
Speaker 1: also missed some throws and he has been unable to
Speaker 1: unlock the downfield passing game, and he just hasn't been
Speaker 1: as confident or as you know, Sharper, as efficient as
Speaker 1: he was last year. So there's plenty of blame to
Speaker 1: go around, but Jackson definitely has to have the accountability
Speaker 1: in it. And how is this offense different with RG
Speaker 1: three running it instead of Lamar Jackson. I think it's
Speaker 1: going to be a similar offense, but obviously you don't
Speaker 1: have you know, the the athleticism and the dimension you
Speaker 1: know that you know Lamar Jackson brings. He's one of
Speaker 1: a kind in that area. But Robert Griffin's plenty capable.
Speaker 1: The issue is, you know, their offensive line is a
Speaker 1: mess right now. They probably will start a center who's
Speaker 1: never played in the NFL before. In terms of offensive line,
Speaker 1: they don't have their fullback, they don't have their block
Speaker 1: and tight end, so they're kind of a mess throughout
Speaker 1: the personnel, but I'm sure they'll try to keep their
Speaker 1: offense as similar as possible and Robert Griffins beating the
Speaker 1: Steelers before. I know, it's a different situation last year.
Speaker 1: But they'll be capable. You know, they'll be capable of
Speaker 1: moving the ball, but they definitely have a lot of
Speaker 1: hurdles to overcome in terms of all the absences. Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson sensitive with the media at all with criticisms this year. No,
Speaker 1: you know, he's you know, it's always been tough this year,
Speaker 1: Dan with the whole zooms. You know, we haven't been
Speaker 1: in the locker room, we haven't had in per some
Speaker 1: press conferences, so it's always hard to say how players
Speaker 1: are reacting. But he's been pretty similar to what he
Speaker 1: was last year. I mean, he has expressed you have
Speaker 1: seen him expressed more frustration on the field. You've seen
Speaker 1: a couple of animated conversations that you didn't really see
Speaker 1: last year. But I imagine that all comes with the
Speaker 1: frustration of not playing as well and the team losing.
Speaker 1: He's not traveling with the team, No, okay, no, no,
Speaker 1: I mean the question is the one day delay really
Speaker 1: it affects potentially two players. JK Dobbins and mark Ingram
Speaker 1: their self isolation ends today. They're ten days so they
Speaker 1: theoretically could fly tomorrow to Pittsburgh and they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to do it early to get in turn for the
Speaker 1: three forty kickoff and they could play. But that's gonna
Speaker 1: be a decision they're gonna have to make if you
Speaker 1: want two guys who haven't play a practice in ten
Speaker 1: days to kind of just jump right on the field
Speaker 1: and play. Thank you, Jeff, you certainly have a lot
Speaker 1: to write about there. Hopefully we get this game in.
Speaker 1: We appreciate your time and thanks for joining us again.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. That's Jeff Zeribek, a senior staff
Speaker 1: writer for The Athletic covering the Ravens. Once again, going
Speaker 1: back to what Andrew Brant tweeted out, and Andrew's one
Speaker 1: of the smarter people in this business, former front office executive.
Speaker 1: If the Ravens Steelers game happens tomorrow, it's hard to
Speaker 1: imagine a scenario where an NFL game doesn't happen. Eight
Speaker 1: straight days of Ravens positive COVID cases, twenty plus players,
Speaker 1: affected dramatic precedent and got the reigning MVP who's not
Speaker 1: going to be playing because normally you're gonna go. We
Speaker 1: want to get the best players, our biggest names out there.
Speaker 1: We want them in primetime. Well, the game's not in primetime.
Speaker 1: NBC had to put it in the afternoon due to
Speaker 1: their tree lighting ceremony special. And they travel to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's undefeated. Pittsburgh to me, should be upset. Now. I
Speaker 1: don't know if Pittsburgh is. I haven't heard much out
Speaker 1: of Pittsburgh. All I know, as my source said, you know,
Speaker 1: John Harball should not be crying because it's hypocrisy. They
Speaker 1: created this and now they want to be the victim.
Speaker 1: And h you know, my source said that ain't happening
Speaker 1: with the league office here. Yeah, McLevin. But isn't the
Speaker 1: alternative for Pittsburgh that they get a healthy Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: a week eighteen? You know that seems like, well, I know,
Speaker 1: but they've been they want to play. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they care if it's Lamar Jackson or not.
Speaker 1: As much as you want to have your rhythm, your
Speaker 1: schedule so it doesn't disrupt you for the next week.
Speaker 1: And this happened with Tennessee when that game was postponed,
Speaker 1: and now you have this where you're ready to play
Speaker 1: a game, and then ready to play a game, ready
Speaker 1: to play a game, and then you're waiting for your opponent,
Speaker 1: and your opponent is the problem here. I understand that frustration.
Speaker 1: You know, would I rather face Baltimore without Lamar Jackson? Yes,
Speaker 1: I would, But I would rather keep with my routine,
Speaker 1: you know, each day, because every NFL team they have
Speaker 1: a routine depending on when your game is day off,
Speaker 1: what you do the next day when walkthroughs happen, and
Speaker 1: that can affect you, adversely affect you. Yeah, Paul, you
Speaker 1: know they let the Broncos play. The NFL let the
Speaker 1: Broncos play with no quarterbacks. But that was not much
Speaker 1: of a safety issue. That was more of a performance issue.
Speaker 1: If an NFL team lost an entire offensive line units
Speaker 1: and none of them could play, would they wouldn't play
Speaker 1: a game? Then? Would they? That'd be a safety issue.
Speaker 1: You got a guy who's never played in an NFL
Speaker 1: game who's going to start for the Ravens tomorrow afternoon.
Speaker 1: I know that that's just one player. You had a
Speaker 1: quarterback who had never played in an NFL game with
Speaker 1: the Broncos, you know, at some point, it just feels
Speaker 1: like the NFL is not factoring in other outside situations
Speaker 1: that they should, scenarios that they should. It's just it's
Speaker 1: like a snow plow. They just keep going through. They're
Speaker 1: not stopping, and at some point it feels like the
Speaker 1: NFL has just got to stop and go let me,
Speaker 1: let me come up for air and survey the situation here.
Speaker 1: You know, you've the NFL and the SEC are very similar.
Speaker 1: We're going straight ahead and we're going to get to
Speaker 1: the SEC title game and we'll have a team playing
Speaker 1: for the national title. The NFL is just we're going
Speaker 1: to get these regular season games in. Maybe we'll have
Speaker 1: an eighteenth week if we have games that are postponed
Speaker 1: or moved to that, you know, in an extra regular
Speaker 1: season game. But if you didn't do it for the
Speaker 1: Baltimore game against Pittsburgh, you're not doing it. I mean,
Speaker 1: Andrew Brant rings up a great point, like what scenario
Speaker 1: start start quarterbacks out? You got twenty or more players
Speaker 1: affected by this. Noah, We're gonna play the game. And
Speaker 1: that's where it comes to the competitive competitive balanced part
Speaker 1: of this that I have the question about the issue
Speaker 1: with I want to see good football. I want to
Speaker 1: see football that's representative of the NFL, and I don't
Speaker 1: know if we're going to see that tomorrow afternoon. I mean,
Speaker 1: watch the Ravens win the damn game. But what I
Speaker 1: saw in Denver in theory sounded interesting, in reality was
Speaker 1: horrible and embarrassing for the NFL. And I know that
Speaker 1: the NFL. According to my source, they punished the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 1: They punished those quarterbacks, but you're punishing the rest of
Speaker 1: the team for that. And that's where, you know, do
Speaker 1: you take away a game check from those quarterbacks? Like?
Speaker 1: How do I punish them? So the message gets through
Speaker 1: because now you're going to punish the team, And you know,
Speaker 1: I guess Vic Fangio, the head coach at Denver, said, hey,
Speaker 1: don't rule out these quarterbacks being fined. Yah, And that's
Speaker 1: where I had a problem with this. The NFL is
Speaker 1: going to pick and choose who they're going to punish.
Speaker 1: We're mad at those quarterbacks. They didn't wear a mask
Speaker 1: in their meetings. Okay, I would question the Broncos having
Speaker 1: all their quarterbacks in a meeting when other teams keep
Speaker 1: one quarterback out, who zooms in so, in case worst
Speaker 1: case scenario they all come down with COVID, you still
Speaker 1: have a quarterback who's able to play more phone calls
Speaker 1: coming up back after this in The Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock App. Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones claims the Broncos were no more challenged at quarterback
Speaker 1: this past weekend than the Cowboys have been. Jones claimed
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys were in a similar situation when the
Speaker 1: starting quarterback Dak Prescott and back up Andy Dalton both
Speaker 1: got hurt, forcing them to go with third string quarterback
Speaker 1: Ben Dnucci. I don't know that Denver had any more
Speaker 1: challenges than we did with Danucci or young quarterbacks we had.
Speaker 1: Jones said, well, at least she had somebody who's played
Speaker 1: quarterback recently than Hinton, the wide receiver with the Broncos.
Speaker 1: And does Jerry know that that's a really big swipe
Speaker 1: at his own quarterback. I mean, Denucci was a starting
Speaker 1: quarterback at Pitt, but he's practiced at the position. He
Speaker 1: was drafted by Dallas. I wonder if Pat Bowen was
Speaker 1: still the owner of the Broncos, if the NFL would
Speaker 1: have done what they did what they did, because I
Speaker 1: think a stronger owner, There's there's no way that Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones would allow that to happen, that they were playing
Speaker 1: a wide receiver off the practice squad. It just that
Speaker 1: that would never have happened with Jerry. Some of these
Speaker 1: strong owners, it just wouldn't happen. Robert Kraft, you can
Speaker 1: get down the list, but that that would not happen.
Speaker 1: But with Denver, I don't know. It felt like it was, Hey,
Speaker 1: here's your punishment. Take your punishment, Now go out and
Speaker 1: play the game. Dan Orlovsky had this tweet. The Saints
Speaker 1: are nine and two. They've had Drew Brees and Michael
Speaker 1: Thomas for less than two games together. Orlovsky said, most
Speaker 1: complete team in the NFC. The defense has been the
Speaker 1: star so far. That's what that's what's really intriguing, you know,
Speaker 1: getting Michael Thomas back and getting on the same page
Speaker 1: with Drew Brees, that'll be what's interesting to watch. I
Speaker 1: think we're waiting for Tampa to get it all together
Speaker 1: with all these new pieces there and obviously with Brady
Speaker 1: with a new offense there, and do they have time
Speaker 1: to get that together with these, you know, last four
Speaker 1: games in the regular season. Can they get it ready
Speaker 1: to start the postseason? That's what I'm curious curious about,
Speaker 1: but also getting Drew Brees back and what are the
Speaker 1: Saints going to be like offensively? Because the defense has
Speaker 1: been great, but at some point the offense is going
Speaker 1: to have to win a couple of games and you're
Speaker 1: not going to be facing the likes of the Denver
Speaker 1: Boncos when you get into the post season. All right?
Speaker 1: Eight seven seven three d P show email address dpat
Speaker 1: dan Patrick dot com. Got some information on Ohio State
Speaker 1: football and I'm going to save it till the top
Speaker 1: of the hour because I want to follow up with
Speaker 1: my source. And you know, I told you Ohio State
Speaker 1: game Northwestern's game with Minnesota was in doubt and they
Speaker 1: canceled that. I said Ohio State's game with Michigan State
Speaker 1: serious doubts, but also Michigan is the following week. But
Speaker 1: I got some information. I want to follow up with
Speaker 1: my source on this with Judge he just sent this
Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, paul I'm assuming this is great news
Speaker 1: that's gonna put Ohio State fans in a great mood.
Speaker 1: Probably not. Probably. I take no pleasure in doing this none.
Speaker 1: It's just Ohio State is you know, that's the big
Speaker 1: team here and what's at stake here? And if you're
Speaker 1: not going to play for the Big Ten title, can
Speaker 1: you still play for the national championship? So I have
Speaker 1: hopefully that information coming up for you. At the top
Speaker 1: of the hour, Pauli says, we have a hot new
Speaker 1: poll question. We have a couple of options. See Paulie
Speaker 1: sent me a pole question that I think he thinks
Speaker 1: is hot, but I'm not sure. I'm not sure how
Speaker 1: the room thinks about it. One was which would you
Speaker 1: rather tend live the Steelers, Ravens or the Tree Show
Speaker 1: on NBC. Now, the reason I'm not into it is
Speaker 1: because I would not want to go to that Tree
Speaker 1: show with Mariah Carey. Is that something that anybody would
Speaker 1: want to do? You're sliding at Edrew. You're calling it
Speaker 1: a tree show. It's like an like an harborist in
Speaker 1: a backyard in Vermont. This is the Rockefeller Center show
Speaker 1: and thousands of people John Legend and no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I don't want to see that in person. No, the
Speaker 1: ladies do. This is a great place to take place,
Speaker 1: I know, but we're not the ladies and wives loving. No.
Speaker 1: Well they can watch on TV with me. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: but no. I've been to the tree lighting ceremony before
Speaker 1: and it's festively and it's beautiful. But I didn't stay.
Speaker 1: Well if I stayed for about thirty minutes, and then
Speaker 1: I went to a steakhouse right around the corner, and
Speaker 1: then that was it. So officially I've been to one.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, of course wanted to see a
Speaker 1: former girlfriend Mariah Carey up, I mean a former friend
Speaker 1: Maria carry up there singing. Sure, and uh, I couldn't
Speaker 1: wait that long. I think she was running a little
Speaker 1: bit late, so I couldn't. I couldn't wait to any longer.
Speaker 1: I had to go eat. All right, let me see
Speaker 1: what else do I have here? Brandon in Texas? Hey Brandon,
Speaker 1: what do you have for me today? Hey Brandon on DC?
Speaker 1: Hey Brandon? Hey, Um, well, I'm sure you watched the
Speaker 1: game last night as I'm doubnit now the car Carson
Speaker 1: wentz Philadelphia funeral. Um, But I got two responses. Personally,
Speaker 1: I think since they're only one game out in first place,
Speaker 1: I think they should at least try Jalen Hurts, you know.
Speaker 1: And then also I would like to see Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: move on and maybe have like the Ryan Tannehill type situation.
Speaker 1: What do you think? Okay, but you know the problem
Speaker 1: is is you just can't go to Carson Wentz, Hey,
Speaker 1: move along. You know there's a lot of money here,
Speaker 1: and you know you take that salary cap hit Philadelphia
Speaker 1: can't afford to do that, and then try to rebuild
Speaker 1: Alan California? Hey, al damn? What's everybody? Hey man? So
Speaker 1: I have the game last night. I actually had plus
Speaker 1: eight and a half. I was up to buy two
Speaker 1: points in the game, so I didn't even need the
Speaker 1: two point conversion when they got the late touchdown. Oh
Speaker 1: eight and a half. Huh yep, you can buy two
Speaker 1: points of the golden Nuggets. Oh smart? How much did
Speaker 1: that cost you? It's minus one sixty because it was off.
Speaker 1: It goes more in tho touchdown. Usually it's minus one fifty,
Speaker 1: but they charge you more when you go off a seven. Huh.
Speaker 1: All right, well, congrat aventulations if you had lost when
Speaker 1: you've called in all no, no, because I was already
Speaker 1: expecting to lose. So I mean only called in because
Speaker 1: they got the surprise win. Yeah, I know. It's we
Speaker 1: always talk about the bad beat. Thank you, al congratulations.
Speaker 1: We always talk about the bad beat. But there's also
Speaker 1: that person who goes, oh God, I'm gonna lose this game.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna win this game. I didn't have too many
Speaker 1: of those, but I don't remember when I had like
Speaker 1: good wins. I always remember when I you know, the
Speaker 1: one I always bring up is when Chester Markle from
Speaker 1: Hillsdale College, number thirteen. I believe I always got to
Speaker 1: do with kick the field goal. That's it. Kicked field goal.
Speaker 1: I'm good, and the field goal gets blocked. He goes
Speaker 1: right back to him. He runs left right into the
Speaker 1: end zone, and that was a bad beat, bad beat.
Speaker 1: I all have some news on Ohio State with their
Speaker 1: game this week and next week against Michigan. Have some
Speaker 1: information on that. Also, more phone calls as well, and
Speaker 1: we'll check in with Mike Flora from NBC Sports about
Speaker 1: if we didn't have a cancelation this week in the NFL,
Speaker 1: Is there a scenario he sees where that could possibly
Speaker 1: happen