WEBVTT - Tiffany's Farewell Part 1 — Revisiting Her Greatest Moments 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:27.320 Hey, hey, hey, we're back. We're black, we're brown, ambish, ambitions, 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:30.040 ambition and ambition. 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:32.880 Why are we magic today? And we're wearing blue? Were 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:33.760 never wear blue? 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:34.080 Yeah? 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:35.160 And we're all blue? 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:40.479 Yeah. You know, hey, beauty, helly, you always give me 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:42.200 something new to giggle about it. And I was giggling 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:44.559 because like, clearly you had your nails done, because there 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:51.400 was a lot of fingerography, hand agraphy. They look great. 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:53.639 They look at you right, not me becoming a whole 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:56.120 lady at forty five. I'm like, it's late. 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:58.520 I'm like, I know, you know, I'm just starting to 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:00.480 get my last done, my nails done. I'm like, is 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:03.000 this what that girl's based ufering through? I mean, I 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:05.160 don't mind getting my nails done, but I'm like, it's a. 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:05.640 Lot of up. 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:08.240 Oh, I mind it something much time. 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:10.520 Someone someone's gonna fall. Here's the thing. I actually like 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:12.000 the feet because you know, you just sit there, you know, 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:12.679 scrolling your phone. 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:13.440 You can do things. 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:16.240 Yes, Hm, on nails, you'd be like, oh my god, 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:17.319 give you my handbag. 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:25.760 Yeah, well you look gorge gosh. I hmm, how are 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:32.600 listen where? I just went to therapy yesterday and I 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:35.280 have the good news is that I always have so 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:37.800 much material to work with, and there's some things that 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:39.520 I could just leave in the back of the closet, 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:42.120 you know, that are just kind of like that's something 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:44.120 that we need to work, that we need to talk about, 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:46.160 but we're just I'm just gonna like, look at this 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:50.600 shiny drama over here. You leaving Brown Ambition is like 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:52.840 one of those things. And now it's like I have 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:56.840 been looking forward to this episode, these episodes and be 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.200 a fan. This is a series that we're gonna be 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:02.400 doing because I'm not letting Tiffany go, as uncomfortable as 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:04.600 maybe it makes her feel. I don't know. I ain't 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:07.080 let you go without a show. I'm not letting you 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:12.760 go without an acknowledgment of the legacy that you are 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:16.400 leaving us with. And so I guess I know how 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:19.880 I'm feeling, which is like I pingbong between emotions all 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:26.679 the time. But are you ready to be to look 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:30.679 at what's next together and like really talk about the 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:32.400 end and like face it with me? 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:33.519 Yeah? 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:37.480 I mean someone actually asked me to like how's it going. 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:42.840 And for the most part, I'm someone who when big 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.200 things happen, I'm pretty chill, but. 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:47.799 Then I get bursts of And I had that the 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:49.640 other day. I don't know what happened. 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:51.640 I don't know if I saw one of our clips 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:53.760 and it was like hilarious or something like that, and 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:59.399 it hit me like wait, you know, like my brain 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:04.280 doesn't hold things like consistent. It'll just they come in 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:06.799 they're like, oh, like you know what I mean. I 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:08.639 don't not explain it where I'm It's almost like this 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:10.720 is how I manage. This is how I cope because 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:12.600 there's a lot of big things that are like happening 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.560 in general, right, and so if I hold them all 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:20.720 like heavily, it can be very overwhelming emotionally. 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:22.120 So I've learned to be like a little bit, yeah, 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:22.440 a little bit. 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:25.880 They're not disassociating necessarily sometimes that but not necessarily, but 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:28.680 like you know, like hold it lightly. But the other day, 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:30.359 I don't know if it was a clip or something, 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:31.760 and it hit me like a ton of bricks, like, 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:33.720 oh my god, I got a little weep be like 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:37.440 I think maybe it was like clip of us at 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:40.200 the at the live show, and I was watching it 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:42.760 and I was laughing, Oh my god, and I was 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:45.720 like wait, So it hit me like a ton of bricks. 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:50.280 So I'm okay. I just I'm sad about it, you know. 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:52.680 But also. 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:56.839 I don't know it's it's a weird thing because yes, 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:58.840 I'm leaving Brian and Mishap, but I'm leaving Mandy. And 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:02.280 I think that's the part that like doesn't feel as 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:04.880 weird because I think sometimes when you leave a thing, 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:06.520 it's like, oh, I'm leaving all my work friends, and 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:09.080 it's like, yes, but that's actually not what's happening here. 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:12.920 So there's this weird it's the same but not the same, 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:13.200 you know. 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:16.440 Yeah, it'll be a more normal friendship, I guess, not 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:19.719 every friendship. It's like I'll see you on the internet, 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:24.240 but thousands of people watching on Monday. Cool every Monday. 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:32.000 Well ah yeah, ye. How am I feeling today? I'm 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:35.000 feeling good. I woke up and it's not the thing 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:38.119 is you know, I could talk about how I'm feeling, 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:41.280 but it's never just one thing that's contributing to like 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:44.520 the swirl. I actually wrote about it to my in 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:46.800 a newsletter yesterday, and I was trying to describe the 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:49.839 emotional like sort of not even a roller coaster, because 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:51.880 that's sort of like one dip and then you're I'm 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:55.080 just it's like I said, it's ever since I found 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:57.919 out you were leaving, it just has felt like every 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:01.039 emotion from inside out too, because they introduce some new 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:05.920 fun ones like anxiety. Yes, it's like being put in 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:09.480 a blender, and it's just like every like pulse, you know, 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:12.520 not consistent, just like pulse pulse. So I get these 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:16.960 like it really changes from time to time. But what 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:22.960 I keep centering myself on is the goal. The point 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:26.480 of everything is to go through this transition and still 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:31.880 feel like me and tiff are exactly as strong as 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:34.880 we've gotten. I feel like we've worked for our friendship 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:39.120 and our business partnership. I think we've worked for it, 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:41.880 and I just want to like protect that. Okay, well, 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:43.400 I don't want to spend too much time on the 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:47.200 future right now, because who even knows what kind of 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.240 world we're going to be in. It's not just Tiffany leaving, 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:51.520 it's like where is our democracy going to be? But 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:54.480 I want to look back, and I think we have 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:58.760 talked ad nauseum about the origin of brown Envision. 0:05:58.800 --> 0:05:59.080 You know that. 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:02.760 And if you guys don't know the origin story, you 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:06.800 know the cliff notes, cliff notes, spark notes, whatever version. 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.000 As Tiffany and I met in person for the first 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.120 time at finn Con, I was actually writing about this 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:13.880 from my book. Tiffany and I went back and I like, 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:16.800 I was looking at pictures, I was reading email chains, 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:18.760 I was trying to find the blog post, and I 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:21.520 was trying to find the article on Business Insider that 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:24.960 I originally wrote, which is when I was first I 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:28.360 discovered you, like to myself, but I didn't meet you 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:33.040 in person until until finn Con. But anyway, it wasn't 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:35.440 that finn Con that brand ambition was born, but our 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:38.880 friendship was born. Ore like, I don't know, you just 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:41.800 meet people, And this most recent FINCN just reminded me 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.160 how you don't have that click with but just everybody. 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:51.200 You really don't. It's magical and special and I definitely 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:53.120 don't take it for granted. But we had that spark, 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:56.800 that kindred spirit, kind of connection. And the next year 0:06:57.000 --> 0:07:01.240 is when I started to scheme in Charlotte and Charlotte 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:05.119 in twenty twenty five, we were I saw this video 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:09.120 of us on the Finance bar bus on Marsha's bus 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:12.679 getting a tour I got to show you this clip 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.600 of you and I think it was you, Tanya and Marsha, 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:18.800 and you were just like so silly. You're you're making 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:23.440 up some song, like hamming it up for the camera. 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:28.840 But you weren't at the time, like the you know, 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:32.240 the New York Times bestselling author like Budgetista was still 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:35.720 in its couple of years infancy. Like if you can 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:38.240 look back, what I'm curious about is back at that time, 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:42.400 as a business owner and just exploring your own business 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:45.160 or building your business at the time, why did you 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:48.160 say yes to Brown Ambition? Do you remember? 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:53.080 Yeah? You no, for real, like honestly, because what I 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:54.320 didn't even know what a podcast was. 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:56.760 Yeah, not even a little bit. 0:07:57.480 --> 0:07:59.760 No, not really. I mean I think i'd heard of it. 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.720 I was like, honestly, it wasn't That wasn't the draw 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:05.160 because like nobody knew podcasting is going to do what 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:05.720 it's doing now. 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:07.080 It wasn't the draw. 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:09.440 It was like, oh, I like her, she's fine, went 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:11.160 to okay. It's almost like you say you want to 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:12.240 come up to my house and hang out. 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:12.880 It's like mm hmm. 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:16.240 Literally, like that was the only qualifier. I was like, 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:18.320 not really sure what this podcasting is a man, it 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:19.480 seems really nice and cool. 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.280 I like her and sure. 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:24.840 Meanwhile, it was like, what a big and little. 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:27.040 Yeah, you're crazy. 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:29.600 I can't believe literally had no research. 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.080 I was like, sure, no business strategy. 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:34.640 No, not literally, not at all, because I just honestly said, 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:38.400 what I heard was this person that I think is 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:41.160 really great and fun and cool and nice. She's like, 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:43.040 do you want to do a project together? And I 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:46.599 said okay. I said okay to you, not necessarily to 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:48.320 the project, because we didn't have a name. We didn't 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:51.040 I didn't know really what podcasting was. It was just 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:53.319 you asked me to do a project, and I liked you, 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:57.199 so I said okay. And that's literally and it's funny 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:01.000 because that's the same now you know. I'm here, you know, 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:06.960 because of Mandy. And I remember because my I had 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.439 another friend asked before you asked me to do a 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:10.360 podcast together? 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:11.680 Ooh, Danny. 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:14.559 Yeah, So I'm not gonna say names because you know 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:17.800 who she is. And I said sure because at the 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:20.440 time I thought we were really close. And I said, oh, 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:22.719 that sounds cool, you know, and like she was like, 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:25.120 it's like a radio show, da da da or and 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:28.240 I said sure, and then maybe a week or so 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:32.320 before you asked me, she dropped me, and I heard 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:36.000 my feelings kind of because she said, I know, I said, 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:37.400 ask she I for you, and to be honest, I mean, 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:38.520 to be fair, she was honest. 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:39.040 She said, I know. 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:42.839 I said that we should do a podcast together, but 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.079 one of her friends or one of her mentors or 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:47.760 something like that said that she shouldn't do it with 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:52.200 me because we do we're too similar in this space. 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:57.400 And I don't know, she said, I don't even know, 0:09:57.559 --> 0:09:57.760 like I. 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:02.199 Can't remember the exact words, but essentially that I'm you know, 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:07.320 it's competition, you know that if we did something together. 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:09.160 And I was like, but in my mind, I was 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:11.280 like that that doesn't make sense because you're my friend 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.599 and what what you know what I mean. I just 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:19.120 remember being really like, well, okay, and so when you 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:20.640 asked me, in my mind, I was like, is she 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:21.360 gonna drop me too? 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:23.040 Because I like this girl too. 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:26.000 But when you asked me, I was like, I was 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:28.560 really eager because I was like, okay, yes, and then 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:29.360 we actually did it. 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.360 So now I look back, I'm like, hey, this couldn't 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:35.040 been you. It couldn't have been No, she's still cool, 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.319 but I mean not to me. 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:41.520 At the time. You know this, there was this dynamic 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:44.920 of in terms of like social media platform and you 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:47.520 had an audience baked in. Whereas I was a reporter, 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:52.000 I wasn't the draw for the brands that I was 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:55.840 working for for Yahoo, for Business Insider, I was doing 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:59.200 articles underneath that brand. But like there was this element 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:04.120 of being the Kelly Roland to Tiffany's Beyonce, and not 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:07.240 everybody can be Kelly. Kelly is fucking phenomenal. Thank you, 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:11.880 and I'm really proud to be a Kelly. Like I'm 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:16.120 really proud. It's not like, you know, who's the difference 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.280 between Kelly and Beyonce. It's not a question of like 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:22.000 who's more talented, or who works harder, who dances better, 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:25.679 who has the better voice. It's because Kelly has on 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:29.400 paper everything that Beyonce has and so much strength. And 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:36.240 it's just about feeling. It's about being able to step 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:39.480 beside such a bright light and not feel like you 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:44.480 are being cast in shadow. And I mean, I'm not 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:47.839 a saint there. I will not lie and say that 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:52.120 there weren't times when I felt like, you know, okay, 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:58.679 it's Brandon ambision with Tiffany and who and you know, 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:02.959 like feeling like yeah, I mean I think that I 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:05.880 have those human feelings sometimes, especially you know, we have 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:09.520 a guest on and it's like who is she? Who? Hi, Tiffany, 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:13.240 You're my friend? Like I like, you know, and but 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:15.920 at the same time like not like learning how to 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:18.760 I think it was one of the great lessons as 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:22.840 a friend, as a sister, as a person, greatest lessons 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:26.880 to be put in a position where you are side 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:32.160 by side with someone who shines so brightly undeniably, you know, 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.319 and then to be coming into my own light at 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.959 the same time, but not letting your war light intimidate 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:42.160 me that I has to seeing you like grow to 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:44.880 this light that you know that you are now. 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:47.880 I think like the first time when it was like yes, 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:50.800 it was I don't know why, randomly, but we decided 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:54.280 to go live, and I think our audience could like 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:57.360 go live on like Instagram, Oh we did, yes. 0:12:57.720 --> 0:12:58.880 I think I think our. 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:00.760 Normal like Arbha bisht I was like, oh my god, 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.320 we love Manday blah blah blah. But when we went 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:06.439 live on IG I don't think people realize how freaking 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:09.880 hilarious you were oh. I remember distinctly because I remember 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:12.120 being shocked at how many people were like, oh my god, minute. 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:16.280 I'm like, well, do oh, y'all don't know, Mandy, because 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:19.360 you were cracking all the jokes. Everyone thinks that I'm 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:22.280 just a silly, funny one. I'm like, hey, no, you know, 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:24.400 And I think it was like then it was like 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:26.000 I don't know, maybe it was I don't know when 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:28.559 it was when we went live on IG together for 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:32.640 the first time, but it cracked open this like, wow, 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:35.240 Mandy is hilarious and funny. 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:39.360 We knew she was smart, obviously she's reor but like, no, no, no, no. 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:43.640 And so I think that I love that because it 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.199 allowed people who maybe didn't listen to the podcast to 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:51.160 realize that, like, oh, there's two smart, hilarious, brilliant women 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:54.480 on this podcast. And I feel like I can see 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:56.319 it when people come up to us. I remember the 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:57.640 first time someone came up to me, he was like, 0:13:57.679 --> 0:13:58.680 here's a huck for me, Andy. 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:01.520 I was like, I was so geeked when you told 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:03.360 me that. Oh my god. I would wait when you 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:05.160 came back from any big event or like maybe like 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:10.240 anybody mentioned because it was a sign I'm like, we're 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:11.439 getting through. We're getting through. 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:13.480 You know. 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.000 That reminds me of like the earliest days of the podcast. 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:19.760 One of the most iconic moments, and this is when 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:21.960 if we were like the Save by the Bell throwback 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:23.440 episode at the end of the season, this is when 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:26.360 they would like do like the little string orchestral because 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:30.160 I will be inserting clips, yes I will. The iconic 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:34.520 pack Panny conversation, which was on episode two or three. 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:38.560 I want to say that was one of the moments 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:40.360 that in the beginning I didn't know what to do 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:45.720 with that other than like just I was like, is 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:52.400 this for brown ambition? Oh well, don't say wait, because no, 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:56.000 I think it was you made it so safe, You 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:58.240 made me feel so safe, just to bring that level 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:01.200 because would always take it to one hundred. 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:06.280 Yeah. Yeah, I remember asking me like, because I don't know, 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:08.240 I think I was saying, like, I don't what do 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:10.160 people do for like what do women do for underwear, 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:13.960 because like mine just keep falling apart or whatever. But yeah, 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:17.800 that was one of my favorites because I realized because 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:20.000 I didn't know what kind of show we were going 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:22.920 to do, but I like it's a show. Obviously, this 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:26.000 is a finance show, but it's a finance and friendship show. 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.840 Yeah, you know, I took I took myself a little 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:32.320 too seriously in the beginning. I really did see my 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:34.200 position in the beginning. I thought of it as like, 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:40.720 Tiffany is the the comedian, the sparkle, and I almost 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:43.920 I would like tell myself, this is Tiffany. She's bringing 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:45.360 the light and the fun and the joy and the 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:48.360 you know, the key key and the comedic relief. And 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:50.880 it's I looked at it as my position to like 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:55.600 be the somber like fact finder. Well, Tiffany, let's check 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:58.480 the let's go to the facts, because according to this 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:02.640 study into and that side of me still comes out 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:04.720 a little bit because I just like, I still consider 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:09.120 myself a journalist. But it was it took me a minute, 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:12.400 I think, to get comfortable, not necessarily like with you, 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:16.400 but definitely with like not necessarily needing to like beat 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:19.520 the audience over the head with like facts and data 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:25.320 and statistics and news and Okay, so pack Panties is 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:27.240 just one of those iconic moments. It's the moment that 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:29.520 sticks in my mind when I think about Okay, this 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.640 is not going to be the show that maybe I 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:38.520 like my straight a journalism four point oh gpa, you 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:40.200 know brain wanted it to be, but that it was 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:52.640 going to be something quite different. Yes, this is brown break. 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:53.560 Time because it is Brown Break. 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:54.360 Do you want to go first? 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:54.720 Sure? 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:56.720 So I was walking here and I was walking here 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:59.640 and my pack underwear was riding up my behind as 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:00.800 I always us, and I was like. 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:02.240 Great, you know what, and I say it again, your 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:04.639 pack underwear. So I call it pack underwear because you 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:08.120 buy it a pack some people. I'm like, people don't 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:08.840 buy you know, Hanes. 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:10.439 I didn't know people under the age of forty five 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:11.440 bucks under pack. 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:15.000 It's like past the age of thirteen and under the 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:17.520 age of forty five you should not be buying your 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:18.760 underwear and a pack I didn't know. 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:21.960 And so like they never fit. So one, you either 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:23.200 have the GRAMDMA fit. 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:26.159 It goes up to your navel and just like you know, 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:28.120 it almost looks like, you know, like the sixties bathing 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:29.919 suits that are like really cute, highwaisted. 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:32.159 Yeah, so it looks like over the belly, yes, And so. 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:37.159 It either looks like that or or you look like 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:39.040 a six year old because they're like, you know, they 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:41.480 actually have like designs and stuff on them or unicorns, 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:43.720 yes and so, and it just never fits my butt. 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:46.240 So it's either way too big for my butt or 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.040 it's literally like slicing my cheeks in half. 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:51.639 And so I just never can find the white pack underwear. 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:53.680 And then Annie told me that there's my problem right there. 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:55.680 Stop buying your underwear and a pack, ladies. 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:58.600 So I'm like, but what, so what I don't want? Necessarily? 0:17:58.640 --> 0:18:00.600 I feel like either I have pack underwear or I 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:02.440 have like my Lacey numbers for what I want to 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:05.800 get sassy, you know, So what's in between? And uh? 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:06.600 Full coverage? 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:08.080 Because I feel like there was a point in my 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:10.280 life when I was in high school and I don't 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:11.480 know why I was, but I would go to like 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:14.520 Row twenty one and I'd buy the dollar thongs and 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:15.959 then they would just sit in my drawer. I used 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:18.200 to have this big wad, I like tangled up, never 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:20.959 worn maybe, but once they had like little things dangling 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:21.440 from them. 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:24.560 Like yeah, I was a virgin until like how long? No, 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:27.320 I did not need to have dangling. 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:30.359 Dollar signs for my undermind, like thongs. Nobody wanted to 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:32.200 see me thought they always rode up the back. Yes, 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:34.760 they made it like a line in your ass. You 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:36.320 can see through your jeans and your dress. 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:38.400 Never because I'm like, I'm gonna pay underwear to ride 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:41.000 up the kind of but I have, you're paying for 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:42.200 a wedgie basically. 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:43.560 And so I had those same. 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:45.520 Things because I would get it from Joyce Leslie. Did 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:47.800 you love a Joyce Leslie? It's like rainbow, Okay, we 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:49.640 like that kind of I get it. And so Joyce 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:52.080 Leslie used to have, like for like a dollar, they 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:55.439 would have like you know, like thongs, all this lace 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:57.639 and like all this beating and stuff, and it just 0:18:57.680 --> 0:18:59.159 seemed like a good idea at the time until you 0:18:59.160 --> 0:18:59.840 put them on, You're like, but. 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:01.280 Why because it's cute? 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:01.600 Yeah? 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:04.080 All right. 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:05.760 So the next part of the journey that I think 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:09.960 really sticks out for me is our love relationships. I 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:13.240 think I don't know if you've ever have you listened 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:17.760 back to the very first episode of Brown Ambition. It 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:20.560 will I don't know if it'll make you cringe, But 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:23.520 my baby, my baby voice that still had a little 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:24.399 bit of that southern twang. 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:26.400 Oh I did. 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:31.359 Hey everyone, I'm Mandy. 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:35.440 Hey, It's Tiphany and this is Brown Ambition. 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:40.840 I've been a reporter in New York City for five years. 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:43.560 Right now, I'm a writer at Yahoo Finance. I write 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:46.760 about money, business, career, basically anything to do with the 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:48.359 world and how it impacts your wallet. 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:51.280 And I am Tiffany but much better known as the 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:55.919