1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Real people, real celebrity joined the Breakfast. Yeah, it's the 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: world most dangerous morning to show the Breakfast Club Charlomagne 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: and God Angelie. And he's still in Vegas. Yes he 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: is Jesus Christ. He's living a life God bless. I 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: want to see his check. We have a Julia Beverly Hill, 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: a former publisher of Ozone. Now he was more than 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: a publisher of oz On Maga. Wasn't the publisher, he 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: was the owner of oz ONWN magazine. I was the owner, publisher, editor, photographer, money, 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: advertising director. Yeah, I mean we had for a minute. Yeah, 10 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: Charlomagne used to do a monthly column called the Chin Check. Yeah, yeah, 11 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,639 Speaker 1: and it was very informative. Actually did he get paid? Man? 12 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: But it was good. Yeah, we hadn't arranged. I think 13 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: Olson was huge because there was no World Star and 14 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: all that stuff back then. The only way to get 15 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: to know about sovereign wrappers through Oldzone magazine. Even I 16 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: read Ozone magazine. I grew up in Brooklyn and I 17 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: was I was into it. But you know, my favorite 18 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: party was always group because fashions. I bet, I bet. 19 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: I used to be some lip service. We did some 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: lip service interviews. Yeah, I was actually in those magazine 21 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: a couple of times lip service when I used to 22 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: do that. You know, Angelo was one of the first 23 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: people in New York really too. I don't want to 24 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: say embrace the South, but I just felt like she 25 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: treated us like people human, yeah, rather than you know, 26 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: you'd always get good that attitude from people in New York, like, oh, 27 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: y'all are not part of us. Yeah. I think part 28 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: of it was being on satellite radio though, because satellite 29 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: radio wasn't just regional, it was you know, nationwide. Yeah, 30 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: that's true too, so I got to hear a lot 31 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: of different things from all over. But I've always liked 32 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: music from other places besides New York too, Yeah, but 33 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,279 Speaker 1: just in general, like you go all over the country. 34 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: And I'm not just saying this because I'm on the show, 35 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: but you were really one of the first people like 36 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 1: in New York to really like embrace people from other 37 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: parts of the country as far as a music business, 38 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: and me and Julia was always cool. Now a lot 39 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: of people used to be like, oh, Julia is so dry. 40 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: I try to be nice to her. She always acts 41 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: like she don't know me every time she sees me, 42 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: you know how girls me, Yeah, we get very offendive. 43 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: I get that, you know, but it's it's funny because like, 44 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: once you get in a certain posh people expect you 45 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: to be very like outgoing and happy and friendly, and 46 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: that's never been my personality. Like I am very I 47 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: have like a drive since the humor. So when people, 48 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: like somebody came to the in store the other day 49 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: that we did and she was like like literally crying 50 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: to like meet me, that she was excited to meet me, 51 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: and I was like, you're excited to meet me? Like 52 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: for real, like Julia Beverley, I'm like, I'm just now 53 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: where you're dressed at because you're dressed up today and 54 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: I'm not used to seeing you like this. Angela always 55 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: teases me because I'm always the one in the club 56 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: in the jeans and the sneakers, and you know, Angel's 57 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: got the shoe game on points, so she always wants 58 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: me to go shoe shopping and step it up. So actually, 59 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: like what your camera taking pictures? Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly, 60 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: And you can't when you're in heels and a dress, 61 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: like you can't maneuver the way you Like I'm at 62 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: a concert, I'm like taking pictures and I'm like hopping 63 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: on speakers, and you know you can't really maneuver the 64 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: way that you that you wouldn't will come to me close. 65 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: What made you all want to do a magazine focused 66 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: solely on down South hip? Like? What made you say 67 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: this is what I want? It really wasn't a decision. Initially, 68 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: I wanted to be a photographer, so I would look 69 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: in like Vibe and the Source and I'd be like, 70 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: who how do they get these jobs? Like how do 71 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 1: you get a job going to a concert and taking 72 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: pictures that looks like fun? So at first Ozone was 73 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: going to be like my portfolio to take to other magazines. 74 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: And at the time when I started doing Ozone, that's 75 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: when you had the Rick Rosses, the Thugs, the Jeezys, 76 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: Like there was a real movement building. And I would 77 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: go to all these cities with the magazine and I'd 78 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: be like, how is nobody seeing this? Like? Why am 79 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: I the only everybody? Ozone? Yeah, we really had a 80 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: great run. We did eight years two thousand and two 81 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: to twenty ten. It was a monthly publication ozonemag dot 82 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: com and it just took off. I mean, we were 83 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: really just in the right place at the right time, because, 84 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: like if you look back at the very first issues 85 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: we did were more like all genres of music we did, 86 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: like reggaetone, Latino music because it Orlando's very heavily focused 87 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: on that. But um, as it grew, that's when the 88 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: South was really taking off. So we were just kind 89 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: of naturally covering what was that comes into play exactly exactly. 90 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: I mean, people you actually knew were cool. Yeah, we 91 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: were friends. Um he told me one time. I was 92 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: I was the only journalist he talked to. I mean, 93 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: he did some great interviews with a few other people, 94 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: but he in general, he didn't really like doing interviews 95 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: because he felt like he had been you know, misquoted 96 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: or people didn't really understand him. And so we kind 97 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: of gave him like kind of how Charlotmagne did the column, 98 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: like he was doing a month's column, Like we gave 99 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: him a platform to just say whatever he wanted to say, 100 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: and we didn't edit it, we didn't censor it or 101 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: anything like that. So I think he appreciated that. And 102 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: this is Pimpsy's son right here by the way, shout 103 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: out the core just so you know, so you guys, 104 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: it's not her security. I was like, damn, I knew 105 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: Julia like black guys, that are right, you can't tell 106 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: us Sonny he kind of a favor now. He definitely 107 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: looked like him. Now let's talk about this book though, 108 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: because I posted a picture, I was excited to get 109 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: it early. And congratulations on you. I know this too. 110 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: You're a long time to do. You couldn't even get 111 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: a publisher to do the But for you, you did 112 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: everything yourself. Why couldn't you get a publisher for a book? 113 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: That's a great question. I mean I I approached publishers. 114 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: I talked to book agents when I first initially decided 115 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: to do the project, and they would just be like, 116 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: who is pimp C Like maybe my book proposal wasn't 117 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: good enough. I don't know, but I didn't get much interest, 118 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: if any, And I think they just don't understand, you know, 119 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: the way that um, the way that a New Yorker 120 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: might react like to a jay Z. That's the way 121 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: someone in Texas would react to it, what I see, 122 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: And but they don't know that if they're not there. 123 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: So if you're not in Texas or you're not in 124 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: the South, like you may not understand. Like I knew 125 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: from doing Ozone, people love to read about Pimsel, like 126 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: even jay Z. I mean, I knew there was an 127 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: audience for it, but I wasn't finding anyone really who 128 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: understood that. So I got to a certain point in 129 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: the project and I said, I'm just gonna do it myself. 130 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: I mean that's I said, what would pimp do? Pimp 131 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: would have just done Kim, Yeah, what would pimp do? Now? Why? 132 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: Seven hundred pages? And it's definitely on my last three 133 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: because I do enjoy reading. I'm glad you've seen it 134 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: to me early. But his seven Corey was born around 135 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: page you know. I tried to trim it down. I mean, 136 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: it really is. I've had people say that they were 137 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: able to get through it quickly because it's an easy read. 138 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: It's not like, yeah, it's not a hard it's not 139 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: a hard read. I tried to write it like almost 140 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: like a movie script, so you're going from like scene 141 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: to scene and you're kind of following the story. So 142 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: it's not a dry, you know, textbook. But um, at 143 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: first at the very beginning with his mom. Yeah, it's 144 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: really based around his mom basically narrated the book for me, 145 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: and his mom was awesome. She she passed away unexpectedly 146 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: before we could actually put the book out, but we 147 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: had finished, you know, going through his whole life. And 148 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: what I found was that she was a major part 149 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: of his success and just you know, his the attitude 150 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: that he had and these these funny catchphrases that he had, 151 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: like he got all that from his mom. Like so, 152 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: so hanging out with her was basically like hanging out 153 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: with him. So I would just go to her house. 154 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: She would just cook for me all day, tell me stories. 155 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: He would be stealing my iPad running around the house, 156 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: and um so she you know, she really was, She 157 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: really was the story. Like that's ultimately. Ultimately, what I 158 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: found was that the story was him and his mom. 159 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's about rap, but I feel like 160 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: it's something that anybody could relate to because it's really 161 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: about family. And his mom was their manager, Ugk's manager 162 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: for ten fifteen years. Like she was very involved, like 163 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: not only in his life, within his rap career as well. 164 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: Because people worp sat Now posted the picture of the 165 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: book and people started going in saying that his you know, 166 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: his wife would have a problem with this book coming out. 167 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: They didn't want it to come out, and how dare 168 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: you and so on and so forth. But you had 169 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: his mother's approval, right obviously, because she cooperated with it. 170 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,239 Speaker 1: So explain a little bit about what went on behind 171 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: the scenes and trying to put something like this out, 172 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: because people don't understand you can still even without the 173 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: consent of the family, you can still put out a book. Yeah. 174 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you have a lot more freedom with a 175 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: you know, we have freedom of speech in Americas. You 176 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: have a lot more freedom with a book than maybe 177 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: say an album or something like that. But you know, 178 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: it's complicated. There's there's division in Pemp's family. So when 179 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: you talk about Pimp's family, it's not like it's one entity. 180 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: I have a great relationship with most of the family. Yeah, 181 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: well he had. You know, he has two older sons 182 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: prior to him getting married, and so his his wife 183 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: and his mom never got along. So initially, when I 184 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: had the idea, you know, I called Bun, I called 185 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: his wife, I called his mom and said, you know, 186 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: how would you feel about me doing this book? Everybody 187 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: said it was a good idea. I moved forward. This 188 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: was a four or five year process doing the research. 189 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: So over that time, you know, as I got closer 190 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: to his mom, his wife just kind of stopped communicating, 191 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: I think because of whatever issues they had, and um, 192 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: and you got to think too. I mean, it would 193 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: be hard, I think, to read a book like this 194 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: because Pim pad he had other relationships with other women, 195 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: you know, and so that might be hard to read. 196 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: But it's still it's the truth, you know. It's not 197 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: like I made it up. I could be wrong, but 198 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: I remember, didn't Y'll start working on this before Pim died. No, 199 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: I mean we did interviews. He would do interviews for 200 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: the magazine like pretty much every month, so we had 201 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: you know, anytime I needed anything, like any type of 202 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: content or I need a rapper to comment on this topic, 203 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: like he would just always he would just always called 204 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: me anyway, and I'd be like, hey, we're doing If 205 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 1: I didn't ask him, yeah, well he would call me 206 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: at like three four in the morning all the time, 207 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: which that was like his his mo. He would call 208 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: everybody at like four in the morning and just be like, hey, 209 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: what are you doing and just start talking. So he 210 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: would just call me and say, hey, I want to 211 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: do a column. I want to put this in the book. 212 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: So I had probably you know, twenty interviews with him, 213 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: and I was able to use a lot of that content. 214 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: So we had never actually talked about like doing a book. 215 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: But um, when I approached his mom with the idea, 216 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: like he had told her so much about me that 217 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: she was already like totally on board with it. You know, 218 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: she was like, Oh, he told me, you know, he 219 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: told me all about you, and he loved you and 220 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: your you know, your work ethic and all that. So 221 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 1: I feel like he would have wanted me to do it. 222 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: Why pimp C specifically, because I mean you came up 223 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: around everybody, I mean from the cash Runnies too, you know, 224 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: the Jezs Rosses. Whoever, Why t I? Why pimp C? 225 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 1: What drew to Pi? He has it? He has a 226 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: great story, and he was just such a character. And 227 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: he had so many other characters in his life, Like 228 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: even just sitting down with his friends and family, like 229 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: I got into their story. He's like, they're telling me 230 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: their story, and right, you should write a book. You know. 231 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 1: He just had a lot of really interesting characters in 232 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: his life. And I almost called it. I was going 233 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: to call it the Six Degrees of Pempsley because in 234 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: throughout the book you have the Dungeon family story, you 235 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: have the No Limit story, the cash money story, the 236 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: Little Boosey story, the TI story, like all kind of 237 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: weave weaved into the book because he touched all those 238 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 1: people in one way or another. So I didn't actually 239 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: realize like just how connected he was to everybody. Now, Cray, 240 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: did you read the whole book? Not check? I'm getting 241 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: through it. How is it difficult for you to read that? 242 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: How you learn any things you didn't know about your dad? 243 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: I'm learning a lot of stuff that I didn't know. 244 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: But it's not really difficult. But at some part, so 245 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: you know, like you said, I put it down, but 246 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: I think it back up, like get through it. So, 247 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: but it's some things that you learned that you didn't 248 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: know that you were surprised a lot, like like some 249 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: of his day you know, he had a pocket full 250 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: of do you know that used to be my favorite song? 251 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: And I was little still mine mind? Now right? You said, 252 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: you said you found out a lot of dirt, But 253 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: what about personality wise? Here was a character? No, but 254 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: my mama always Tim, I'm just like him. Now see 255 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: what she's talking about? Just know not how I let yet, 256 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: but let So what's your relationship like with Bombing? Who 257 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: we talked? I mean if we see each other, we speak, 258 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: but in that we don't really communicate. Okay, but you 259 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: know it's not how it feelings and nothing, but just 260 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: how it is. Were you excited for this book to 261 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: come out? Yes? What about so other family members besides Corey? 262 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: And um, his mom was on board? Who else do 263 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: you feel like was really? Because I'm sure with the 264 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: other artists that you interviewed in this book. When his 265 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: wife then had a change of heart, did that make 266 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: other people have a change of heart too? I mean, 267 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: some people definitely are putting a hard position, I feel like, Um, 268 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: but all I can say, you know, as a writer, 269 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: what I what I always try to do is get 270 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: everyone's input. So I definitely gave his wife plenty of opportunities. Hey, 271 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: if you want to, you know, I'm not I'm not biased. 272 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: I'm not on anybody's side. If you want to give input, 273 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: that's fine. But you know, if I interview two hundred 274 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: and fifty people, and two hundred and forty of them 275 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: say negative things about you. I don't really have too 276 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: much of a choice of what to write. So um, 277 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: I could see why maybe she would be, you know, 278 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: concerned about the way that she would come across in 279 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: the book. But if I if I'm just repeating what 280 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: I'm told, you know, a couple of stories that are 281 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: in the book for people who haven't gotten yet, because 282 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: it is gonna be quite a readism a million stories 283 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: in here. It's over seven hundred pages, so just give 284 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: us like a couple of highlights situation in that it 285 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: is like the details of that that actually started that 286 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: was partly my fault. Um Pimple would just call me, 287 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: you know, as I said, like at four or five 288 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: in the morning. So he calls me one time and 289 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: he says, uh, I want to do a call him, 290 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: So okay, cool. So he was like, call me tonight, 291 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: you know, we'll do the interview whatever. So I finally 292 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: get him on the phone and it's like five six 293 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 1: in the morning or whatever. He was just on one 294 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: like he was just going off. He said he had 295 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: just seen the little Troy had made a video like 296 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: talking about rap a lot or something. He was mad 297 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: about something he had seen, so he just started going 298 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: off and he said something about he was like dissing somebody, 299 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: but didn't say a name, and I think I had 300 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: asked him, like, was he talking about Jeez. He was like, oh, 301 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: I didn't say Jeezy's name or whatever, So I didn't 302 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: think he was actually dissing Jeezy. But then when the 303 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: article came out, you know, the hot one oh seven 304 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: in Atlanta called him. He did that crazy radio interview 305 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: that a lot of people heard, and Jeez, I guess, 306 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: found out that he was dissing him, or you know, 307 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: took it, took offense to it, and that's kind of 308 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: how that started. But I think he was upset because 309 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: he had done a verse for Jeez for free, and 310 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 1: then Jeez's label like sent him an invoice when he 311 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 1: wanted to get the favor reciprocated. So it was kind 312 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: of he was upset with a few artists over similar 313 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: ludicrous and you know, sometimes it's it's like record label business. 314 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: Now the label might send an invoice and maybe it's 315 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: not coming from the artists directly. But when he came 316 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: out of prison, it was like a huge transition had 317 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: taken place in the music industry because prior to him 318 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: going in, It was like, Okay, you're my friend, we're 319 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: gonna get in the studio, we're gonna work. And it 320 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: wasn't like a money you know, financial transaction um type 321 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: of thing. And then when he came out, you know, 322 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: hip hop is a huge, like billion dollar industry and 323 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: it's all about you know, the labels sending this person 324 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: an invoice and there's clearances and stuff like that. So 325 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: I think he took offense to that in a number 326 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: of situations, did a reconcile before His mom told me 327 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: that he had intended to Like one of their last conversations, 328 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: he said, I want to reach out to him and 329 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: make it right. So she said that he intended to 330 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: smooth things over with Jez and he kind of regretted 331 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: that he had made those comments, and um, Jess actually 332 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: shouted pimp out on stage the other night he did 333 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: his tenure anniversary concert in Atlanta. So I think that 334 00:14:54,120 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: situation probably would have been fixed had he not. Yeah, yeah, yeah, love, 335 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: I think they're they're they're good. You going with his 336 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: relationship with master P as well, Yeah that. I mean 337 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: a lot of people have heard there was always like 338 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: rumors of you know, Masterp, like pistol whipping him and 339 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: kidnapping him, and so I really wanted to get to 340 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: the bottom of like what actually happened. So I actually 341 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: talked to the people who were at the hotel that night, 342 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: is what actually did happen. So yeah, that actually I 343 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: don't know if i'd say kidnapped, but yeah, master P 344 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: ran up in his hotel room with four people held 345 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: him down, pistol whipped him. Yeah, yeah, you might want 346 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: to read this. Well, Pimp had kind of and then 347 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: Pimp kind of fell back because he said, well, I 348 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: kind of started it because I was I was talking crazy. 349 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: What what spark that was? You know, they had some 350 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: issues to begin with. There was a dispute over like 351 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: some some money or some equipment that was supposed to 352 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: take place, and um, he had master Pa cussed out 353 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: see his mom on the phone, but she was the manager, 354 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: you know, she she had a mouth on her too, 355 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: So I guess they had gotten into some kind of 356 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: spat and Masterp said, you know, said something crazy to her, 357 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: And so Pim got on stage that night and he said, 358 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: had the crowd say, you know, a limit and just 359 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: went off. So, um, master he eventually found him, and 360 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: I guess somebody said it was it was a love whipping, 361 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: like he you know, wanted to let him know he 362 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: could be touched, but not you know her. But his 363 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: mom said that that really that was part of the 364 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: reason that Dirty Money took so long to take out 365 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: to come out, because it kind of threw off his whole, 366 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: Like she said, he was just very upset for like 367 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: a couple of months after that, like it just killed 368 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: his whole like creative, yeah, yeah, yeah, um. And then 369 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: of course there are other scenarios in here of him 370 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: his relationship with other women and everything. So yeah, I 371 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: try not to get I tried not to be messy, 372 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: you know, I try not to get to the book. 373 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: You might as well put in getting some poo poom too. Well, 374 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: it's not it's not a salacious it's not, um right, 375 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: not like graphic. But yeah, he had other women in 376 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: his life. Um, there's an interesting story. He went to 377 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: a psychic about a couple of months before he passed, 378 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: and the psychic was his like one of his girlfriend's sisters, 379 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: and um, their stories was was interesting. He was just 380 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: asking it was it was weird. He was asking questions 381 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: about like different people around him like trying to. You 382 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: could sense that he was maybe he was, um not 383 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: trusting some of the people around him, so he was 384 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: he went to a psychic actually asking about these people, 385 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: like what do you see when you when I say 386 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: this name? And that was like his girlfriend's sister. She 387 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: could have been like, I think you need to be 388 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: with my sister. All right, Well the book is available 389 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: rap at chapter Yeah. Um, well that was very interesting 390 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: to me because I didn't get into hip hop until 391 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: two thousand and two, so I didn't know that there 392 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: had been this huge like the DA was really trying 393 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: for like a decade to get rab A Lot, you know, 394 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: get j Prince On under federal indictment basically. And so 395 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: what they tried to do was set up a lot 396 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: of people that worked for rap a Lot or were 397 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: affiliated with rap a Lot. They would they would set 398 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,479 Speaker 1: up situations where they have somebody calling and say, hey, 399 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: there's a cooler in a hotel with with ninety thousand 400 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: dollars in it, and I'll leave the room key for you. 401 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: You can come steal it. You know. They come get 402 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: the cooler and there's six kilos of cocaine in there, 403 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: and then they try to entrap them and get them 404 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: to provide information or whatever. So it was a whole 405 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: crazy situation. And UM, I don't know if I don't 406 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: know if I should have just let I know. Jay 407 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: has a book coming out from when I heard and um, 408 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: so I don't know if I should have just let 409 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: him tell his story. But I was so fascinated, you know, 410 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: once I came across um that a story, I just 411 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: felt like it needed to be included. And it plays 412 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: into Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure he'll have a whole 413 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: perspective on it. But the reason, yeah, he didn't he 414 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: didn't want to do an interview. I mean, he's he's 415 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: not really a he doesn't really do interviews. But I 416 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: would love to read book, Yeah, exactly. Um, I would 417 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: love to read his book. But the reason I included 418 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: it was because it helps you understand why pimps went 419 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: to prison. Um. Part of the reason why pimpsy went 420 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: to prison because at the time when he got arrested, 421 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: it was he got arrested a week after the congressional 422 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: hearing when they about rap a lot, So it was 423 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: when you understand all the things that had led up 424 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: to that point. So here PIMC gets arrested. He's affiliated 425 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 1: with rap a Lot. The FBI comes to see him 426 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: while he's in the county jail and says, hey, if 427 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: you can tell us something about Jay Prince, we'll let 428 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: you go. So he was. He said that he was 429 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: approached with offers. FBI had paperwork on him, you know, 430 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: they had, that's all. There was several times where people 431 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: tried to set him up or tried to, you know, 432 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: say that he was selling drugs and things like that. 433 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: See had a crazy life. But when you understand the 434 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: rap a Lot situation, it helps you understand why he 435 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: decided to go to court and plead guilty to aggravated 436 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:41,959 Speaker 1: assault when all he had done was he got an 437 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: argument with a woman at the mall and he thought 438 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: she was reaching for a weapon, like she reaching her purse, 439 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: and he had a pistol. So he lifted his shirt 440 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: and showed he had a pistol. So in Texas that's 441 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: aggravated asault. You can get twenty years for that. And 442 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 1: there's a lot in there about their situation with Jive Records. 443 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: They always had, yeah, a lot of issues with the label, 444 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: and he compare being signed to a record label or 445 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: the music industry to prostitution. Yeah, he made that comparison 446 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: a lot. Well, they made They made a mistake, I 447 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: would say, because they didn't really understand like when they 448 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: the song took off, they sold forty thousand units independently, 449 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: so they didn't really understand yet how to leverage that 450 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: success to get a better record deal. Because somebody like 451 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: you know, E forty talked about how he went to 452 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: job he had already sold like I don't know, two 453 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: hundred and two und fifty thousand units and said hey, 454 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: I need a better deal. So once you already have 455 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: success independently, then you can negotiate it for a better 456 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: deal with the record label. But at the time, you 457 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: gotta think they were I think seventeen eighteen years old. 458 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: His mom said, when they came to New York to 459 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: sign the deal, they got a youth discount ticket. That's 460 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: how young he was, Like at the time they gave 461 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,479 Speaker 1: discount airfare. Yeah, I think he was eighteen when they 462 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: actually signed their deal. But they were just very young. 463 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: They're from Port Arthur, Texas. They don't know anything about 464 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: the music business. They're big time records. Who doesn't know 465 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: anything about the music business. So they were just very 466 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: He said, there were some sheep getting ready for the slaughter. 467 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: That's that's how pimps described it. So think about the book. 468 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: I saw a Bun the other day. Um, I interviewed him. 469 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: I mean he was one of the first people I interviewed. 470 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: He provided a lot of information, I think. Um. The 471 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: last thing he told me was that he's preparing to 472 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: put out a book. I don't know how far along 473 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: he is in that process, but he said, Hey, I 474 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: got to save some of my stories, you know, from 475 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: my own book, and I would love to read his 476 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: book too. But um, so I don't know what his 477 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 1: You'd have to ask him what his position is. Rabbi, Yeah, 478 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: shout out, shout out the bun rabbit. I think he 479 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: probably his family. Yeah, his family. I don't know if 480 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: he's happy for me about me putting that out there, 481 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: but yeah, that was his that was like his childhood nickname. 482 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: That's how he got Bundy. I would text him a 483 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: bunch of bunny rabbit to see what he said, just 484 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: the emolji nothing else. Well, the book is came out tuesday. Yeah, 485 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: Amazon is the best place to pick it up. We're 486 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: setting up for a book signing tour. We already hit Houston, Dallas, Atlanta, 487 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: but we'll be coming through doing a pretty extensive tour 488 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: um signing books. Corey will be with me and some 489 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: of the days Corey gonna be able to pay for 490 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: college off to sales it. These books' getting some money. Yeah, yeah, 491 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: Corey's Uh, Corey's out there hustling too, Coy. Corey's a 492 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: hustler like his dad. He was selling Uh, he was 493 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: selling DVDs at the at the Washington Say, did you 494 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: have one? Like did you ever used to experience like 495 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: people saying like you're a culture vulture? Because you know 496 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: they said, you've heard that. But you know what PEPSI saying, 497 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 1: Let's see, you wrote the book that you ain't got 498 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: to like it, but you guys to respect me. So okay, 499 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: if you don't like me, I don't really care. I 500 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: like the way you did that too, with your swing. 501 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: You ain't got to like. I can't say I can't 502 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: do the PIMPSI invitation. His mom could do it perfect, 503 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: Like everybody at interview would try to do the Pimpsie. 504 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: Can you do it? Corey? I can't even do it. 505 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: It's somewhere so I can do it. You're gonna try 506 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: like his Uh. You might have to pay for that. 507 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: You might have to charge for that. Idel lived a 508 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: little bron all right, Julia Beverly, thank you for joining us, Corey, 509 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: appreciate you for having me. It's the Breakfast Club.