WEBVTT - Draft Show: Overthinking it? 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:10.959 This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:14.840 war room for incenter news and draft analysis from deep 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:18.760 within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star in Frisco, 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:33.200 Dallas Cowboys, and now your host, Kyle Yeomans. Today is Wednesday, 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:37.360 April fifth, twenty twenty three, as we are twenty two 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:41.000 days away from the NFL Draft in Kansas City, Missouri. 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:43.920 This is the Draft Show presented by Millerlite, the only 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:47.000 beater of the Dallas Cowboys. It's Miller time and it's 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:50.240 definitely draft time. Here from the Star in Frisco. We've 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:54.400 got Bobby Belden Studio, Brian Bradis Ayesha Morrison. I'm Kyle 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:57.440 Yeoman's Chris Beam running everything in the back. How are 0:00:57.440 --> 0:01:01.400 we doing? Everybody great? Never better, never better. Everything's up, 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:05.240 nothing's down. That's awesome. Doro pointing up. Yeah. You guys 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:07.040 getting to the point now where you're just trying to 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:09.399 decide these last few guys. You're like trying to feel 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:10.840 if they deserve to be on your board or not. 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:13.480 Pretty much, you'll get to that point. I'm getting to 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:15.559 that point, like I'm not going to add another guy 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:19.040 here just because I'm looking at another guy, you know, Yeah, 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:20.880 a little bit of that more just like the do 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:23.080 I have a blind spot, like trying to figure out 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:25.600 if there's somewhere where I'm just I'm missing somebody that, 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:29.240 like I remember, oddly enough, a couple of years ago, 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:32.800 I got started way too late on Kelvin Joseph because 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:36.080 I just I didn't have him in the mix. Somehow 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:37.840 I'd overlooked it. And so that's what I'm trying to 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:38.840 do right now. I was just just trying to make sure 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:42.640 I'm not like overlooking somebody who's like really substantial. That 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:45.400 was Duran Bland for me last year. Duran Bland. I 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:48.480 didn't even have him on my board. I barely had 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:52.120 him on even the draft magazine last year, and he 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.440 showed up as a thirty visit and then I said, Okay, 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:56.480 maybe maybe we should go watch this guy and see 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:59.240 what's going on here. And even when I watched him, 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:00.720 I didn't know if you would be what he was 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:03.280 this year. I don't think any of us expected him 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:05.720 to be the Dran Bland we saw as a rookie. 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:08.639 But for the most part, I really I missed him, 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:11.160 I think last year, and so I'm doing the same thing, right. Well, 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:13.440 that's the thing that you know, it's one thing for 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:17.680 us to miss somebody. Teams don't need to miss these guys, 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:19.840 know what I'm saying this as long as you know. 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:22.560 And that's the you know, when you when you have 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:25.680 the really the guys and the gals that do this 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:29.360 like full time, the media, you know, the Dame Bruglers 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:32.960 of the world and those guys. They they start on 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:35.959 this like on Memorial Day, you know, and so they 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:38.760 they've got to handle on three hundred something guys, four 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:41.919 hundred something guys, you know. And that's the thing I 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:45.640 just my biggest fear was always doing this, the media stuff, 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:48.320 is they draft somebody that I don't know. You know. 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:50.920 That's when all of a sudden, like you know, you know, 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:53.600 Kyle announces, well they took so and so, so and 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:56.880 so from Oregon State, and you go, I have no 0:02:57.000 --> 0:03:00.120 idea who they just took about Nishan, right well, not 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:03.720 trying to do right now. Yeah, that's trying to avoid that, right, Yeah, 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:05.840 that's no. That's the thing. You want to be able 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:08.160 to have somewhat an opinion, Like people will send me 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:10.960 these mock drafts. If you guys haven't muted me on 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:14.360 Twitter by now I applaud you guys for you know, 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.560 why have you Why have you not just unfollowed after 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:20.560 the LA that's you know, I lost like I lost, 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:23.280 like I lost like two hundred followers after that deal. 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:26.760 By the way, it's fine, but anyway, the that's your 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:31.119 that's your biggest fear that you get to a point where, man, 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:34.040 you can look at one hundred ninety players, two hundred players, 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:35.960 and then all of a sudden, somebody comes off that 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.080 board that they took that You're like, why did I 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:41.200 not think about this? Now? Why did I look at 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:44.840 this guy from sorry Coastal Carolina? But I didn't look 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:47.320 at the guy that they brought in from Liberty? You know, 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:51.160 why did it? What was my thought process along the 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:53.360 way with that? But that's the advantage that the full 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:56.920 time you know, scout guys and gals that cover the 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:59.560 Scout cover the draft full time that they have they 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:02.520 start and they can carry all those guys. Yeah, you know, 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.000 but man, it's it's getting to the point where I'm like, 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.960 does this guy deserve to be on? Should I talk 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:12.200 about you know, having notes? Should I have notes about 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:15.040 this guy? And that's that's the tough. It's easy to 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:18.840 watch be Jean Robertson and others, everybody that's on this 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:22.880 draft magazine beautiful magazine by the way, Yeah, but everybody. 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:25.159 And I'm gonna get you guys to sign this copy 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:27.680 for me. But the but you know, it's easy to 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:30.320 see those guys. But it's the guys, like I said, 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:33.320 the guys from Liberty and Coastal Carolina and stuff like that, 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:36.280 that you're this guy might be a sixth or seventh 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.520 round guy, and you're kind of like, Okay, that's I 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:42.040 think you're right about that. You know, That's where I'm at. 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:45.040 That's where I'm kind of at. Also, too, are you 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:48.279 ready for this thing to be going? Well, I'm I'm 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:49.920 on the fifth I'm kind of like you, man, I'm 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:51.799 trying to shore up loose ends. A lot of people, 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:54.599 you know, a lot of people tag us on Twitter 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:57.200 and they're like, hey, look at this player, Hey this player. 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:00.600 So what I do is screenshot that us rain shot it, 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:02.680 and I'll go back at the end of the week 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:05.640 and say, okay, because those are guys that probably a 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:07.920 lot of time I've missed, Like one guy that's really 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.840 really really circling right now, I'm saying what I'm to see. 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:14.719 I looked at Tyree Stevenson because I've started hearing about him, 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:18.039 but Corey Trice from Purdue back been hearing a lot 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:20.240 about him and again, and he was one of the 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:22.880 guys that I think that I just missed. And with 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:24.640 his ball skills and some of the stuff he does, 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:27.200 I'm like, he's a guy that I feel like I 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:30.120 missed week. And so that's you know, my followers helped 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.159 me out as well. Well. I know I know this 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:35.880 because John owning U and I know John listens to 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.120 our program and John does a really nice job. And 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:41.120 John's like, you've seen this Trice kid from Purdue. Yeah, 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:44.360 And I'm like, no, should I? He goes, yeah, worth 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:47.000 your time. And then he's like six three two h 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:50.800 six and you watch him play and you're going, thanks, John, 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:53.159 I appreciate you doing that for me. But you know, 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:56.760 there's like there there are some guys that I see. 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:58.839 You just don't want to miss somebody that they said 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.600 somebody drafts in the third round. You know, it's one 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:03.760 thing if you miss a six or seventh round guy, 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.680 you move on, But somebody drafts something in the third 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:09.560 and you're like, I didn't see him. You know that 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:11.599 that's the thing that scares you a little bit. He 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:13.640 sent me that message too, He said, tell me more 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:18.760 perdue corner, Corey Trice. This dude is press demon. I responded, 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.680 it was the day I submitted my reports on the 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.120 draft magazine. I said, I swear, John, I just submitted 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.400 my Draft magazine rankings. If you make me go watch 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:28.440 this guy and he's a stud, I'm gonna be upset. Yeah, 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:30.520 I'm gonna be mad. And he's good. He's real good. 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:32.960 I put a fourth round grade on absolutely. Yeah, I 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.239 think he's a good player. Tell me more about about 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:37.200 Corey Trice before we start getting into some of these 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:40.719 thirty visit guys. I'll tell you what you know with Trice. 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:43.720 I was surprised, man. I mean, this guy is a 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:46.800 what we call a boundary corner. And when you say 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:49.200 a boundary corner, he's a guy that plays to the 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:51.839 side where the short side of the field, so you 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:54.920 can watch him flip sides depending on what side the 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:58.080 ball is on the hash he's to the short side 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:00.840 of the field, so he's you can mention he's six 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:04.600 three's two h six. This guy this is one of 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:07.120 my lines, and it kind of I hate to say this, 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:09.279 but it's one of those things when I was watching 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:11.000 him play, and maybe you guys can help me on 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:14.160 this one. I'm not sure if his anticipation is really 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:18.440 good or he's just a great guesser. And I mean 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:21.320 that in a way of like his anticipation it looks 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:25.120 really good, or he's just really good at being right 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:27.320 where he needs to be, you know, playing the ball 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:30.680 and driving on the ball, you know, reading the quarterback, 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:33.200 being right where he needs to be. But there's there's 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:36.760 some snaps when you see him read and then drive 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:39.840 and not I mean this guy knocks down passes the 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:43.160 length the ball down the field. He plays, He's got 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.480 a feel for how to play. John was talking about 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:48.520 the press coverage stuff. He's a hard guy to get 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:51.200 away with when he's in that mode because of that 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:55.440 length and that ability to move, and I like the 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:59.880 guy throws his body around and make plays. So again, John, 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:03.040 thank you very much for talking about this guy. You know, 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:05.440 you're absolutely right. I think I put him in the 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:10.240 third Yeah, okay, it's what I did, and do you Yeah, 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.680 especially too because of the he's showing what he can 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:14.480 do on special teams. But when you look at the 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:16.800 league now, the league right now, one of the first 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:19.840 things I'm looking at with corner is can they press? 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:22.880 Can they press well with these any video receivers and 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:24.560 stuff like that jam in them is going to be 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:28.280 incredibly important moving forward, and this guy is not afraid 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:30.040 to do that. Also to you brought up, just how 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:33.560 he the anticipation. He flows well within the zone like 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:36.439 it's very natural for him. And he's gonna make you pay. 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:38.640 That's the thing I like about him, and that's how 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:40.680 that's what I want from every corner. I feel like, 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:42.800 is if you're gonna throw the ball my way, I'm 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.160 gonna make you pay. And when he comes up and tackles, 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:47.600 he's gonna make you pay. I liked. I also like 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:49.760 how willing he is in the run games to come up, 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.360 like you said, throws his body around. That's something that 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:54.720 you know we talk about with corner now. I don't 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:57.600 think it's a requirement, but if your corner can do it, 0:08:57.600 --> 0:08:59.960 it will definitely change our offenses try to attack you, 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.199 especially with all the screen game and all that stuff. Now, 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:04.800 So ye had that was what I was impressed with 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:07.600 He understands his length to like his arm length, and 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:10.480 how to keep guys like keep guys outside of their 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:12.280 route or just at the top of the route to 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:15.160 just change up things. I was impressed with him. He 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:16.840 was he was a fun watch. He was one of 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:18.720 my most fun watches. Actually, That's why I was so 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:21.240 excited about him. And he's the type of corner. He's 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:23.959 my type of corner. He really is my type of corner. 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:26.960 Some ball skills, can play obviously, can play men, can 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:28.880 play in the zone. And he ain't afraid to tackle. 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:31.360 And he got a little chip on a show to Yeah. Absolutely, 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:33.320 I like him a lot, Thanks Sean. And there have 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:36.560 been reports that one of your other corners, mister Emmanuel 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:39.480 Forbes of Mississippi State, was in the building this week, 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.560 so that's been reported out there. It is thirty visit time. 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:44.959 We had Dallas Day on Friday. I usualy needed to 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:46.600 have lunch with him and made sure he had some 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:48.319 of that good pizza they have here in this cap 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:52.200 Bobby case. Then, because he feels like he did big, 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:55.679 I mean he is he is that big. That's that 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:58.719 that that when you do that, that's yeah, he is 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:02.840 Bobby's skinniest owner. I can remember seeing yep period, and 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.600 I mean, I just I don't know how well that 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.520 protects when you're talking about extreme outliers that we don't 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:10.800 even have. Like you can point to Richard Robinson, he's 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.040 a similar one, but we talk about a real extreme 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:17.000 outlier that it's like this resets what we've really ever 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:19.760 seen at the position. That's really hard for me to 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:21.679 feel comfortable. Can see him though, Did you see him 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:24.360 at the combine? Did you see like a frame and everything? 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:26.199 I don't think that. I don't know that that's a 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:29.240 frame that puts on weight. If it's that long, it's tough. 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:32.120 It's tough when you're because the muscles and stuff that 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.720 it's like those offensive linemen that have real long arms 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:37.360 and they can't bench press very well because the travel 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.400 of the bar is so far. Can I ask a 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:43.160 question real quick, Kyle, if you don't mind, Yeah, are 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:46.360 we seeing something different in the philosophy of the Dallas 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:49.720 Cowboys when it comes to evaluate players because of Zay 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:53.800 Flowers on a visit Smaller Forbes. I mean, you know, 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:56.760 all we've ever heard of even high it's slightly built 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:58.719 that and I think. I think, yeah, I think the 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:03.080 thing with Will McClay is just like Will likes big players, 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:05.679 He's gonna draft big guy. But the fact that they 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:09.360 got to say Flowers in here on a visit and 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:12.160 then you talk about Forbes with the you know, how 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:16.000 linear built he is. There is there a change in 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:19.480 philosophy with what they're doing or is it just trying 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:26.400 to evaluate a particular draft class that's got slight shorter players. 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:31.720 It feels the fact that they've you know, brought in Flowers, 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:37.680 they've had highatty, they have shown interest in Marvin Mems, 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:39.200 who I think a lot of teams would view as 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:41.680 a slot specific guy. I don't know that they would, 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.280 but I mean there are a lot of teams that would. Um, 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:48.720 it feels like a shift of some sort or you know, 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.360 maybe it's just an investigation, like you say, of a 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:54.520 smaller it's just who the draft is. Yeah, yeah, but 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:58.160 I mean it it breaks what feel felt like a 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:00.559 really hard and fast rule for that exactly, and so 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:03.680 traits that they look now now, look, they've they've brought 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:05.520 in guys on visits before that they really had no 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:08.120 intention of ever picking. They had no intention of picking 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:11.000 Widermeyer last year from Texas A and M, and they 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:12.920 probably they wanted to investigate some things, and so I 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:15.040 don't know. Maybe maybe there are certain answers they're looking 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:17.120 for or certain things that they want to see, or 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:19.000 maybe they're just trying to figure out maybe they want 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:20.079 to get them in here for a visit and trying 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:22.960 to figure out a little bit better if they feel like, yeah, 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:25.000 you're smaller, but do we think you can still take 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:27.200 some reps outside. Maybe they're just trying to get, you know, 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:29.800 finished their homework on that to see that. But it 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:31.800 does feel like a little bit of a shift when 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.320 you see some of the receivers that they've been connected 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:36.760 to Lordie. I would hope that they just see who 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:39.760 the playmakers are and they're trying to explore the playmakers. 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:42.000 And it's that simple. That's all I have. There's a 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.520 lot of playmakers in the building, but there's different size 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:46.800 to playmakers. And that's the thing is is just because 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:48.560 there are a thirty visit doesn't mean they're going to 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:50.800 be picked. I mean, that's that's fact of the matter. 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:54.080 But the fact that they are bringing in multiple guys 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:56.400 like that, I agree with Bobby. I think it's a 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:58.880 tip of the toe in the water, like you're dipping 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:00.280 the toe on the water a little bit, just to 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:03.080 kind of test. Didn't see. Okay, maybe maybe there's something 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:06.040 in this Jalen Hyatt prospect. Maybe there's something to Emmanuel Forbes. 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:08.600 By the way you piqued my interest, I looked up 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:13.160 smallest and by by smallest, I mean thin corners in 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.520 the history of the NFL combine. He is in the 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:19.480 zero percentile at one sixty six. He might be the 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:22.920 thinnest corner that has ever made its way to the combat. 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:26.080 Really tall thin corners. I think of Cordell Flott, I 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:28.960 think Chard Robinson, I think of Drake Kirkpatrick years ago, 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:32.040 and he's smaller than all of them. Yes, And so 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:34.040 can we ask you a question? Do we make this 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:37.800 scounting too hard? No? Nah? And what way? What do 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.480 you mean? I'm asking you this question because you were 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:43.439 talking about just go take the best player the way 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:45.880 the way you just said it, it seemed like we 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:48.360 as a group, we as in like a draft community, 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:50.920 as a draft community. Nah. I mean this is your 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:53.760 first rodeo going through this, and I and you know 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.480 what the way you said that, I think you're absolutely right, 0:13:57.080 --> 0:14:00.959 because we we we put so much valuation and traits 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:03.480 and this, and you just said, go get the best player, 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:05.840 go go, go go look at the who the best 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.960 players are, Go evaluate who those guys are. And I 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:12.520 think there's a lot to that. I think we get away. 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:14.760 I think we get away from that that we we 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:17.520 look at the measurables and things like that, like the 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:20.400 old krusty scouts like me, like we would have never 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:23.600 we would have never taken a quarterback like Bryce Young, 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:27.280 even though the tape with Bryce Young is beautiful to 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:30.600 watch the way he plays, But we would have the 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:34.120 measurables would have gotten our way, the measurables would have 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:36.960 taken us. Well, he's not really this this is what 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:40.880 he is. No, he's he's the guy that's playing. It 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.080 just made me think about the way you said it, 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:46.400 like don't don't make this hard. Yeah, Save Flowers to 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:48.120 me is a guy that if you if you're not 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:51.040 using a thirty visit for him like you're tripping, Like 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:55.440 he's that dynamic. And also to just get in to 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:58.120 meet him and just kind of understand him a little bit. 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:00.760 At the combine, just dude is playing and for a lot, 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:03.480 and he cares. His character is there, but you can 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:05.440 see that in his play he cares about every ball 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:07.920 that's not on his way, and I just, I mean, 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:09.840 you can see that in his workouts. Every one of 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.040 them has been good, a good workout, and we don't 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:15.240 see that. I feel I just feel, like like you said, 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:17.280 I'm just not overthinking it with a guy like him. 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:20.120 Yet he's undeniable, like what you see on tape. So 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:22.240 the size thing matters. But at the same time, it's 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:25.640 like what I see is what I know what I see, 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:27.600 and I see a playmaker. I see a guy that 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:29.840 can separate almost every time he gets the ball, and 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:32.680 that's different, right, Yes, that's what you're looking for, right, 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:36.160 So why why make it hard? Exactly? So that's just 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:38.040 kind of why I'm man. No, I just the way 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:42.360 you said it made me think, like she's right, no doubt, 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:44.400 don't make it. Don't make this too hard. Now you're 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:47.440 gonna there's certain measurables and certain traits and stuff like that, 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:51.320 the outliers zero percentile things you're talking about it. It's 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:54.000 it's nice to have a slot specific player, but I mean, 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.040 just like it's nice to have a two down defensive lineman, 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:58.640 but it doesn't like fill my team out enough. Well, 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:01.640 so I do understand thement of like I'm not saying 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:03.560 you should write off everybody or whatever, but I do 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:05.600 understand when people go, if you can only play in 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:09.920 the slot, that limits what this value is supposed to 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:11.880 mean in the first round. See, that's the same thing 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:13.840 to that you get an argument with the people about 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:15.920 the running back stuff. Taking a running back in the 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:18.560 first round. Sure, you know, like we had on one 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:20.320 oh five three, the fan we had we had a 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:24.480 discussion about Bijean Robinson, you know, and there's there there's 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.400 a side of me of the Dallas Cowboy fan base 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:31.160 that absolutely is against a draft in Bijen Robinson at 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:33.880 twenty six. And there's another side of the fan base 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:35.800 it's like, why would you pass on this type of 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:39.160 a player? And so you know, then you get into that, 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:41.760 you get into that argument where I think there's people 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:44.640 the guys that and galas that don't want Bijan Robinson 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:49.080 are hoping, like hell he gets taken by Tampa Bay 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:53.280 or Baltimore ahead. So you don't have to make these 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:56.800 guys have to have a decision on it. And yeah, 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:58.520 and then you've got the other side of the world 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:01.400 that's going. Please let him get to us. Please let 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:04.440 Jerry Jones have to stand in there and make that pick. Yep, 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:08.120 you know I've never I mean, it's so strange how 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:12.760 traits and running back to me, bij I saw Bijean 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.439 Robinson the first of December. He hasn't changed for me. 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:18.760 I've seen one hundred and ninety something players. Now, you know, 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:21.919 it hasn't changed for me. But that's what I'm to 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:24.880 your point, though, it's one of those things, it's like this, 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:28.280 just take the best players, Just take that. Don't let 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:31.800 things cloud your judgment about these players. And that's a 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.760 different question though, Beijean. I think versus us, well, people 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:37.600 will argue. People will argue about the running back that 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:41.480 value now and maybe in this drap, maybe this drap 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:43.600 because this thing. I don't know about your board, but 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:45.560 my board I could take this thing like into the 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:49.640 fifth round and feel good about running backs. I can't too. Yeah, yeah, 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.080 I think a lot of them, I think specifically to 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:55.000 that course, that's a different discussion. That's a discussion about 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:57.440 positional value things that because there's not weaknesses to be 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:01.200 Jean Robinson, Like, what you're talking about with the slot 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:04.960 specific players is not even positional value. It's a position 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:07.679 people value a lot, and they're saying that you don't 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.399 match up the way other people at this position do. 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:13.959 There's no question Bjean Robinson's like can do everything right, 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:15.680 and it's a question more about how much do you 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:17.719 value the position of running back as a whole or 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:20.840 whenever people talk about how much do you value strong 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:23.399 side linebacker? Is that something that's worth enough to do 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:27.119 that anymore? With the receiver angle, it's no. We all have, 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:29.840 i think established the value of the position itself. That's 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:32.159 probably why it's such an issue for people when you 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:34.600 have a slot specific players. This is such a valuable 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:36.280 position and we need you to do so many different 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:38.840 things that if you only do one, it's it's like 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:42.920 what if what if you're what if you're a great 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:45.240 player as a slot player, what if you're a Pro 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:49.440 Bowl All Pro player as just a slot receiver? When 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:53.240 there have been those yeah, I'm asking you're going to 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:55.159 hit and miss on some of those guys because you can. 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:57.639 For every guy that you can talk about that is 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:00.840 Julio Jones and these big receivers that are on the outside. 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:04.280 And I've been wrong about that Treadwall kid, but that's 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:06.840 the churn. Yeah, you could turn, you turn things around. 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:08.920 You can say okay, but there's also a Tyreek Hill. 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:13.000 There's also of who can play. Jalen Waddle. There's also 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:17.560 he could play. But he was still taken, but it 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:20.520 was he was he's character issues. He would have gone 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:23.440 higher for every one of those guys that have those matchups. 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:26.439