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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, and now your host, Kyle Yeomans. Today is Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: April fifth, twenty twenty three, as we are twenty two

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Speaker 1: days away from the NFL Draft in Kansas City, Missouri.

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Speaker 1: definitely draft time. Here from the Star in Frisco. We've

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Speaker 1: got Bobby Belden Studio, Brian Bradis Ayesha Morrison. I'm Kyle

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Speaker 1: Yeoman's Chris Beam running everything in the back. How are

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Speaker 1: we doing? Everybody great? Never better, never better. Everything's up,

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Speaker 1: nothing's down. That's awesome. Doro pointing up. Yeah. You guys

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Speaker 1: getting to the point now where you're just trying to

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Speaker 1: decide these last few guys. You're like trying to feel

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Speaker 1: if they deserve to be on your board or not.

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Speaker 1: Pretty much, you'll get to that point. I'm getting to

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Speaker 1: that point, like I'm not going to add another guy

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Speaker 1: a little bit of that more just like the do

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Speaker 1: I have a blind spot, like trying to figure out

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Speaker 1: if there's somewhere where I'm just I'm missing somebody that,

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Speaker 1: like I remember, oddly enough, a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: I got started way too late on Kelvin Joseph because

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Speaker 1: I just I didn't have him in the mix. Somehow

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Speaker 1: I'm not like overlooking somebody who's like really substantial. That

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Speaker 1: was Duran Bland for me last year. Duran Bland. I

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Speaker 1: didn't even have him on my board. I barely had

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Speaker 1: him on even the draft magazine last year, and he

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe we should go watch this guy and see

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Speaker 1: what's going on here. And even when I watched him,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know if you would be what he was

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Speaker 1: But for the most part, I really I missed him,

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Speaker 1: I think last year, and so I'm doing the same thing, right. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's the thing that you know, it's one thing for

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Speaker 1: us to miss somebody. Teams don't need to miss these guys,

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying this as long as you know.

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Speaker 1: And that's the you know, when you when you have

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Speaker 1: the really the guys and the gals that do this

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Speaker 1: like full time, the media, you know, the Dame Bruglers

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Speaker 1: of the world and those guys. They they start on

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Speaker 1: just my biggest fear was always doing this, the media stuff,

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Speaker 1: is they draft somebody that I don't know. You know.

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Speaker 1: That's when all of a sudden, like you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: Kyle announces, well they took so and so, so and

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Speaker 1: so from Oregon State, and you go, I have no

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Speaker 1: idea who they just took about Nishan, right well, not

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Speaker 1: trying to do right now. Yeah, that's trying to avoid that, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's no. That's the thing. You want to be able

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Speaker 1: to have somewhat an opinion, Like people will send me

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Speaker 1: these mock drafts. If you guys haven't muted me on

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Speaker 1: Twitter by now I applaud you guys for you know,

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Speaker 1: why have you Why have you not just unfollowed after

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Speaker 1: the LA that's you know, I lost like I lost,

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Speaker 1: like I lost like two hundred followers after that deal.

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Speaker 1: By the way, it's fine, but anyway, the that's your

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Speaker 1: that's your biggest fear that you get to a point where, man,

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Speaker 1: you can look at one hundred ninety players, two hundred players,

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Speaker 1: way with that? But that's the advantage that the full

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Speaker 1: draft magazine beautiful magazine by the way, Yeah, but everybody.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna get you guys to sign this copy

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Speaker 1: for me. But the but you know, it's easy to

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Speaker 1: on the fifth I'm kind of like you, man, I'm

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Speaker 1: John's like, you've seen this Trice kid from Purdue. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: my type of corner. He really is my type of corner.

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Speaker 1: Some ball skills, can play obviously, can play men, can

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Speaker 1: And he got a little chip on a show to Yeah. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I like him a lot, Thanks Sean. And there have

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Speaker 1: been reports that one of your other corners, mister Emmanuel

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Speaker 1: Forbes of Mississippi State, was in the building this week,

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Speaker 1: Bobby case. Then, because he feels like he did big,

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Speaker 1: I mean he is he is that big. That's that

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Speaker 1: Bobby's skinniest owner. I can remember seeing yep period, and

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Speaker 1: to say to us. He would say, you draft an exception,

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Speaker 1: then you have a team full of exceptions that was

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Speaker 1: then with an exception. But I wouldn't want to like

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Speaker 1: restructure my rules because I had one. Yeah, yeah, now,

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Speaker 1: that's a great way to put it in and teams,

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Speaker 1: I think battle that every year because of what they

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Speaker 1: did in the draft last year. Same thing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you could take a wide receiver in the third round

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Speaker 1: right now, the first thought that's going to come in

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Speaker 1: your head is Jalen Tolbert first round or a third

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Speaker 1: round first year not working out the same way that

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean you shouldn't take one in the first round

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Speaker 1: or in the third round as well. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: go to the second or let's go to our first break.

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Speaker 1: Second segment. We've got Twitter on the twenty coming up.

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Speaker 1: laughing at you and your comment about flowers. Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 1: And then I looked at you, and then I looked

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Speaker 1: I gotta watch maybe I gotta watch Clinton, Johnson and you.

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Speaker 1: So let's let's no I into it really quickly. What

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Speaker 1: what was? What was it? I just said, I just

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Speaker 1: like I thought you were talking about Flowers. I was.

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Speaker 1: I said, Quintin Johnston is better than Zay Flowers. And

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Speaker 1: I don't think Zay Flowers is going to be able

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Speaker 1: to win the same way at the NFL the way

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Speaker 1: he wins at college. You agree, I agree with the Johns,

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Speaker 1: the Johnson Flowers. Yeah. I have Johnston is my number

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Speaker 1: three wide receiver and have Flowers is number four. I'm

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Speaker 1: watching McCain. I like Quinton Johnston a watch, which I

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Speaker 1: don't think he's a bad I don't think he's a

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Speaker 1: bad play And we're talking about because he's on the

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Speaker 1: cover of this the Star magazine right here. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's good looking purple up on the front of the Star.

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Speaker 1: I signed, I signed my name. Have you heard this?

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Speaker 1: Have you have you heard this man talk? John? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was on the radio with you. That's the voice

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Speaker 1: of God. He's got great It is it is, it

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Speaker 1: is wild how deep his voice is. Sean over at

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Speaker 1: the station had him when we got him on the air,

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Speaker 1: he had him say in a world because it's voice

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Speaker 1: was so deep, and so it was great. He was good.

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Speaker 1: So one of the guys he reminds me of when

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Speaker 1: he talks is uh, Danny McCrae who works up stairs

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Speaker 1: lu of course he Danny's got that real deep, raspy

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Speaker 1: voice and he kind of talks like this. And then

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Speaker 1: Quinton Johnston when he was on on with you guys,

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Speaker 1: I was listening in and he had that deep yeah,

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Speaker 1: go tigers. He had that deep voice in it as well.

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Speaker 1: So I think he's got a future in broadcasting, hopefully

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Speaker 1: twenty five years down the line when he's done with

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Speaker 1: a great height. Felt people couldn't tell the difference. We

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Speaker 1: had him and Kendra Miller on at the same time.

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Speaker 1: People are like, I can't tell whose voices who? They're

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Speaker 1: both just like these deep, bassy like voices, and it's

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Speaker 1: like somebody would suggest there, like I think Quinton Johnson

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Speaker 1: just did the interview for both of them and said

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Speaker 1: he was Kendred. That's awesome. All right, Let's let's get

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Speaker 1: into some twitter on the twenty Twitter on all right,

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Speaker 1: this one starts with let's go with Chase Aglar. He says,

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Speaker 1: right now, shout out Chase if the draft is to dinner,

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Speaker 1: Oh did you really? Very nice? Shout out to Chase.

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Speaker 1: What is my favorite pick for you right now at

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Speaker 1: twenty six? What do you feel like is the pick

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Speaker 1: if the draft were tonight? What would you go with?

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Speaker 1: Brian the favorite? As who I would want or who

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Speaker 1: the team is going to want to say, I think

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Speaker 1: as the team is going to take Tea, I think

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Speaker 1: they're leaning for offensive linemen here. Okay, I think that's

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Speaker 1: I know it's a wide open situation, and you know,

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Speaker 1: the if we're starting to kind of hear some of

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Speaker 1: the things for the thirty visit guys. I know they're

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Speaker 1: bringing in wide receivers and trying to kind of figure

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Speaker 1: that out. But to me, this team is really good

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Speaker 1: at drafting these offensive linemen late in a draft in

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Speaker 1: the first round, and I kind of feel like they

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Speaker 1: got a little bit of a hole there at left guard.

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Speaker 1: So to me, I think they were looking at a

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Speaker 1: one of those guards, Torrents Orla. Yeah, I think I

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Speaker 1: think you're kind of looking at that direction. If it

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Speaker 1: was me or I would like to ruin Right from

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Speaker 1: Tennessee by the way, Yeah, you're trying. You're trying to

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Speaker 1: will that one. I'm trying to I think I like

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Speaker 1: him a lot. I think right at Tennessee the offensive tackle.

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Speaker 1: You could play him at guard, and I think he's

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Speaker 1: a better prospect than the other two that are straight

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Speaker 1: guards that I was going to ask you if you

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Speaker 1: had a tackle. You guys had a tackle on the

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Speaker 1: board in comparison to the guards that you have first

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Speaker 1: round grounds for. Are you picking the tackle because he

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Speaker 1: already said it, but I think I think Right does

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Speaker 1: translate better to guard. I think he does too, and

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Speaker 1: I think he has the flex So if you wanted

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Speaker 1: to maybe put him out a tackle, you could, But

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Speaker 1: you've done it already. You made the switch last year.

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Speaker 1: Are you willing to do it again? That's my biggest pause.

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Speaker 1: And it goes back to what Brian's talked about. And

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Speaker 1: I've learned a lot from you across the table through

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Speaker 1: these last couple of years. But you always say, if

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Speaker 1: you have an abundance at one position another one, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is another guy that could do both things guard

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Speaker 1: and tackle. Talking about Darnell Right, from Tennessee. If if

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Speaker 1: he is the pick of twenty six, it's because he

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Speaker 1: can start right now. It's because he can come in

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Speaker 1: and play and make that sweat. My question is are

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Speaker 1: they gonna they're tight ends going to be higher on

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Speaker 1: their board than those guards When when you start to

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Speaker 1: talk about the stack, when you look at like they go,

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Speaker 1: if they have one hundred and fifty names and they

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Speaker 1: stack them from one to one fifty, I wonder, is

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Speaker 1: like Mayor going to be at twenty three, Kincaid at

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Speaker 1: twenty five, Musgrave at thirty, and then say, for example,

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Speaker 1: towards it thirty six, a v at forty. You know,

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Speaker 1: how where's that going to be? Yeah? I wonder if

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Speaker 1: they if they go, if they go with that they

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Speaker 1: I mean they if they go with their stack that way.

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Speaker 1: They had a higher graded player on the board last

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Speaker 1: year when they took Tyler Smith, I mean the safety

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Speaker 1: from Georgia, which they had him higher, and they ended

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Speaker 1: up going Tyler Smith. So I mean, so you're saying

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Speaker 1: the stack doesn't matter to them. Oh, No, I think

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Speaker 1: it does. I just think it's a blend of you know,

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Speaker 1: it is a blend of need and talent. Like I

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Speaker 1: mean I think that when seeing I believe based off

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Speaker 1: of the board that was put together by John Mashouda

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Speaker 1: over the at the Athletic when when Jerry showed to everybody,

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Speaker 1: Scene was fourteen I think, and Tyler Smith was sixteen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think they felt pretty good about Donovan Wilson and

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Speaker 1: Jay Ronkers, so that it's like, these guys are close

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Speaker 1: enough that will take the guy that we could really use,

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Speaker 1: which is the offensive line. And so I mean similarly,

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Speaker 1: I think if they were looking at it and they

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Speaker 1: had maybe a tight end graded a little higher than

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Speaker 1: one of the offensive lineman left, they would look at

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Speaker 1: it and say, the offensive line might be more valuable

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Speaker 1: to us. So they're close enough that we can justify this.

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Speaker 1: I just think that tight end groups stretches a little

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Speaker 1: better than the guards early, if that's the route they're

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Speaker 1: gonna go. I agree with that because there's more there's

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Speaker 1: more starting caliber tight ends in the second, third, fourth

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Speaker 1: rounds than you probably would get at guard or even tackle. Right,

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Speaker 1: do you guys have the first round grade for Skronsky? Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: he's way gone. I'd be thrilled. I Skronsky somehow ended

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Speaker 1: to you myself to Kansas City, Kronsky got to seventeen,

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Speaker 1: I'd be like, pick up the phone and trade up.

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Speaker 1: I love Scornsky. We were talking about that, like if

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Speaker 1: there were some guys I think we did on the

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Speaker 1: show last week. We were talking about if one of

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Speaker 1: those guys got to Detroit at eighteen, were willing to

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Speaker 1: flip a two to go that direction Scnsky, I would.

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Speaker 1: I would to go get him that. Say, your board

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Speaker 1: is wiped out, like your top guards, and Cody Malk

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Speaker 1: is there. Do you think he's going to be there

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Speaker 1: in a second at twenty six second? Yeah, she's not

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Speaker 1: wrong about this. By the way, this is a really

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Speaker 1: good thought asking just because of the wiped out like

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Speaker 1: who like Torrance and a Vel aren't there at twenty

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Speaker 1: six exactly? But but I don't think Cody. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how far Cody malk is gonna go into the

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Speaker 1: second just because of how the flex. I know, if

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Speaker 1: you're looking at him at a left deck, well you

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Speaker 1: might be like, oh, he can wait. But if you

637
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Speaker 1: like I can push him in that guard right now,

638
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: then maybe he is somebody I'm asking No, no, no,

639
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: I know I'm saying anything. I think. I think if

640
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: Torrance and a Vila go in the first twenty five.

641
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: Some really good players have been pushed down the board

642
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: to you that you wouldn't have thought would have been

643
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: there at twenty six. And so at that point I

644
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: would not No, I would. I wouldn't take milk in

645
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: the first And if you if you're talking about Avila,

646
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: who Avila and Torrens who? I think are you talking

647
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: about Dallas's ranges when people are going to start looking

648
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: at them, if they were to go earlier, that means

649
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: other players have not gone ahead of you that you

650
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: were probably expecting. So maybe maybe be Jean does get

651
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: pushed down the board further, Maybe all the receivers make

652
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: it to you, maybe Jackson Smith and Jigba is there

653
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: and Quinton Johnson. So I feel like you'd have a

654
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: really strong value play if those guards went earlier than

655
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: you're I don't think they're gonna get wiped out. I

656
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: don't either, it would it would. It's a good question too,

657
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: because you got to talk about that, because you know

658
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: there was I remember I remember in the in the draft,

659
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: the CD LAMB Draft, Diggs was a Diggs was being

660
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: talked about at seventeen and they got him in the

661
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: second round. You know, I mean the football gods that

662
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: night were with you, but that that was something that

663
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: we said, what, you're wiped out? You know, I think

664
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: Chason was. We were talking about Chasons Melo Shoe and

665
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: Jacksonville took him in. You know, like you're thinking, well,

666
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: you know, if he's gone, well who then they pick

667
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: Lamb and then all of a sudden, well, hey that

668
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: was nice to had Digs in that holding area and

669
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: then he turned around and get him in the second round. Yeah,

670
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. You don't know. But I don't

671
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: think they're gonna get wiped out. But I think you

672
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: got to kind of talk about Yeah, I think that

673
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: they'll have somebody there um that not only is a

674
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: fit value wise, but a fit forward something they could use.

675
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think they're going to have just

676
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: a straight wipe out there. Doesn't make you uncomfortable now

677
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: that now it feels like universally everyone feels like he's

678
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: going to be guard doesn't make you feel weird. We

679
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: knew that about Quit, we knew that about Layton Vanderish sure,

680
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: but the first of April you started kind of getting

681
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: a vibe you got Triston Hill. That was all the

682
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: way in the second round. Yeah, you had, you had

683
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: this feeling that they were going to do. I don't

684
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: know today you can identify who the player is. I

685
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: think you can identify the positions. I think it's that

686
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: that heavy. I don't think it's it's that cut and dry,

687
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: because I think, oh, no, depends on how the board's

688
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: gonna fall in front. Yeah, but I'm trying to I'm

689
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: trying to answer my dinner partner's questions. Sure, you know,

690
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: and I and you say, you say, okay, what what

691
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: what player do you think or what position? You know?

692
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: The one thing that we know is this team and

693
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: they draft at the end of the first round, and

694
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: it's an offensive lineman. It's generally a hit for them.

695
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: They have a history of this, and I feel like

696
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: they have a they have a need at left guard.

697
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: I understand whatever he's talking about with Tyrn Smith. Tyler

698
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: Smith to me is your left tackle. That's that's me.

699
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: That's just how they might tell they You know, they

700
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: stopped listening to me in two thousand and five. You know,

701
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: that's the last time I got to say anything in

702
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: a room, you know. So we actually based off of

703
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: these questions. We actually knocked out four of the questions

704
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, by by hitting this conversation, so a bunch

705
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: of people got their their questions. I do not think

706
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: it is like slam dunk guard. I would agree that's

707
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: the likeliest spot, but I don't think it's slammed up,

708
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: like if you were to ask me to name players,

709
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: like if you asked me to name players right now,

710
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: like if I were to handicap it and try and

711
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: put odds on it, just position versus player versus how

712
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: I think they probably like some guys. The two names

713
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 1: that I keep coming back to right now are probably

714
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: Dalton Kincaid, the tight end from Utah, and Steve A. Villa,

715
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: the guard from TC. Brian brought us on Twitter fires

716
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: into question fight ta Morrison, who would you like to

717
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: draft at twenty six? First of all, I would like

718
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: to go on and say that a month ago on

719
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: this show, I said that if you got a guard,

720
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: you'd be cooking with gas. So I'm not opposed. Are

721
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: you crawfishing element? That might be? It might be, but

722
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that that's I don't have a problem

723
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: with guard. Don't do don't do me like that? Okay,

724
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: who do you want? Who do you want? No? No? Yeah, no,

725
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: no no. At twenty six, Ward is available. Yeah. Yeah,

726
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: you're outside of the likely top ten. Somebody falls. Yeah,

727
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: you're taking Forbes. Hi, you're taking Forbes at twenty six.

728
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm conflicted because I really like DJ

729
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: Turner that I've been looking at as a late Okay,

730
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: DJ Turner's a damn good player at Michigan. How of

731
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: an athlete. I think he might be one of the best,

732
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: the better man corners of this this draft. Um, I

733
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: thought he was really I said, really sticky. He's not

734
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: afraid to tackle the ball. Skills are present and he has.

735
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: They even brought him on some corner blitzes because he's

736
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 1: so fast. They know he's going to get to the quarterback.

737
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: It's funny because he played for Michigan and he reminds

738
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: me a lot of how Jordan Lewis played, just that

739
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: chip on his shoulder. I'm kind of I'm not a

740
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: huge guy, but I throw my body around like I

741
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: am like And he also has the special team's ability

742
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: he can come in because that's something that's really important.

743
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: I think for whatever corner they bring in is that

744
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: you need special teams help right now, you honestly may

745
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: be looking for whoever is there going to be the

746
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,439
Speaker 1: replacement for CJ. Good with moving forward, like you need

747
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: to establish a new ace like or like another guy there.

748
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 1: So I like what you're saying because I think that that,

749
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,919
Speaker 1: to me, Turner would be an option if you trade

750
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: it out of the first round. Sure, early second, that's yeah,

751
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: very early second, like forty. That's kind of how I

752
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: see this guy at the fortieth spot. That's kind of

753
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: I would look at it. Yeah, he put on a

754
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: little bit more way too, if I'm not mistaken. Sounds

755
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: like he put on ten more pounds and then in

756
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: this offseason after Combine he was won seventy eight, So

757
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: do you put on some more from there? It's good player, man,

758
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: I think that's when he put on the extra ten pounds.

759
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: But you know, people are spoken well about him and

760
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: what he's capable of, and I mean, I like Emmanuel Forbes.

761
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna beat her though. Personally you

762
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: think he's gone before twenty six, I think he's gone.

763
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: Do you know what DJ Turner's birth name is? Say

764
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: it this is the first time I've read it. Oh,

765
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: wand Drago that's okay, that's Wan Drago Turner. Let's make

766
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: the pick turn in the car. I see it was

767
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: DJ and I like open it up and it's like

768
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 1: one Drago DJ Turner. Geez, that's sick. All right, Yeah,

769
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: that's a that's an alpha name if I've ever heard name.

770
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: All right, Paul says, have you guys studied any traitsy

771
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: late round corners that we could luck into, like a

772
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: Duran Bland or of course a brown back in the day.

773
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: Do you have any of those guys that are on

774
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: your board that you've looked at you like later I'm

775
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: gonna say day three, that's where we'll cut it off.

776
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: Maybe like a fourth, fourth round or later guy that

777
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: you liked the traits on him? How about okay, let

778
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: me let me pull up my corners here too. Yeah,

779
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: and go real quick here. This is terrible radio. When

780
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 1: you don't have it, you're not prepared for this. I'm

781
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: gonna tee what it is. It's live radio. It's live radio.

782
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna give you. As I'm scrolling through my

783
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: list here, I know that I don't know what people

784
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: really really think about about Eli Ricks. Okay, okay, now

785
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: I think we've talked about Ricks before. But I'm gonna

786
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 1: give you another guy here. Maybe he looked at Cameron

787
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: Mitchell from Northwestern. I've not seen him, but he's on

788
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: my list. Five eleven one ninety one another boundary corner.

789
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: The reactions, the the defense world of the inside routes.

790
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: He attacks him. I see him getting you know, I mean,

791
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: he gets himself in position to make a lot of plays.

792
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 1: I feel like this is one of those guys that's

793
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: really smart because he has a good feel for what

794
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: the receivers trying to do to him. You know, He's

795
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: one of those guys that can run the route with

796
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: the receiver. And there was only a couple of times

797
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: where like I saw separation, but man, he rallied back

798
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: to coverage and he didn't give up any really big plays.

799
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: Asia doesn't like him because he's a fifty fifty tackler,

800
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: and I don't blame her for that. But he's not

801
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: afraid the contact. He just doesn't do a very good

802
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: job of that. So smart awareness or his best traits.

803
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: Cameron Mitchell five eleven one cornerback at a Northwestern's kind

804
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: of that fourth round guy. To me, he was All

805
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: Big Ten in twenty twenty one. He did not have

806
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: an All Big Ten honoree in twenty twenty two, so

807
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: he's better. It looks like he had a bad team

808
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 1: at Northwestern. That's fair, that's but they had a really

809
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: good tackle guard on their Yeah, we really like Scronsky

810
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: and that's that's that's about it. Uh finished second on

811
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: the team in twenty twenty one, five PBUs. Yeah, I

812
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: mean started all twelve games, and he came back and

813
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: he started another twelve games as well, So I mean, overall,

814
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: you really like what he's brought to the table. Actually,

815
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: he was Honorable Mentioned in twenty two as well, so

816
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 1: he actually he did get some Big ten honorees there,

817
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: didn't Ebody watch the kid Bennett from Maryland, Jacorean Jakorean Bennett.

818
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: He's down for me to watch. He's down. I saw

819
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: him opposite, but it wasn't like I was studying him. Okay, see,

820
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: and I saw him on the Senior Bowl tape a

821
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 1: little bit. I've heard some good things about him, but yeah,

822
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: I gotta take a look myself. Well, okay, here's your

823
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: trades guy. He's one of the fastest testers at the combine,

824
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: and when you study his film, you could see the

825
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: athletic ability. It kind of translates into his game. He

826
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: is uh one of the leaders of the Big ten

827
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: when it came to defending passes. So you see him

828
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: cutting off routes. He's not gonna let receivers go inside.

829
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 1: He tries to make every single ball a contested ball.

830
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: Good body control, He'll stay you know, he'll stay in

831
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 1: phase with the double move stuff. He's a loose hip guy,

832
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 1: you know, flip go. That's when it's so. I kind

833
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: of feel like though, you know, he had twenty seven

834
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: passes defensed over the last two seasons. Wow, So you

835
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: watch him. He's a downhill player. If he has a downsides,

836
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: he gets penalized a lot four three even forty, a

837
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: one four eight split. He had a forty and a

838
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: half vertical and an eleven inch broad jump. That Trady,

839
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: I'm I'm in on the traits. Yeah, that's a that's

840
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: a good answer for our friend Paul. What is so?

841
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: I feel like whenever you say traits, especially at corner,

842
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: people are gonna wonder about Like it's hard for somebody

843
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: to feel like somebody's a traitsy prospect without long speed,

844
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: but like I really like Jaalen Jones from Texas say yeah, okay, yeah,

845
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: And Jalen Jones is a guy who, like, if you

846
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: look at the forty yard dash, you're in four to

847
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,959
Speaker 1: five to seven, which is not great. It's not great

848
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: long speed, but the ten yards split on him is

849
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: one four eight, which is elite. One four eight is

850
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: an elite ten yards split. So he's got the short

851
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: area quickness. It's the same one been at head. Yeah,

852
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: you've you've got the in terms of I think you've

853
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 1: got the physicality. The size is obviously great with him,

854
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: he's six two. I kind of thought he might be

855
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: a safety. I thought he might be a safe. I

856
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: know you've you've thought about that because I remember we

857
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: brought him up earlier. But I think that Jaalen Jones

858
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: is one that stands out to me as a really

859
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 1: tracy guy. And then somebody else that I know we've

860
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 1: mentioned the best athlete I think when you look at

861
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: at corner and he's not a guy that I think

862
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: I would take in the first three rounds, maybe like

863
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: the fourth, and it's somebody I know Wolchuck loves is

864
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: Darius Rush. I haven't I have a lay third on him.

865
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: Rush was about to talk talk about him as a

866
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: former receiver, Yeah, former receiver has been playing or that long,

867
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: really extinctive guy. I like the ball skills. I like

868
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: how he's able to do there because in this class,

869
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of guys can play, but

870
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: but some of them don't have like go after the

871
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: ball skills they have. They can play the position and

872
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: they're where they're supposed to be, but they don't go

873
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: after the ball. Um I think also too in man coverage,

874
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: I thought he was impressive. He has the special team's ability,

875
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: which again to me, is important for a lot of

876
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: teams moving forward, specifically this team moving forward. This guy's

877
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: a really good blitzer too. I think you got him

878
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: dead on. This guy's are really good. He's got to

879
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: feel for how to how to get in the backfield

880
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: and be disruptive. So for six two we always talking

881
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: about leggy guys, long guys. It doesn't take him much

882
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: to turn. I mean he is not like you know,

883
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: you see him, it's like he's laboring the turn. Nah,

884
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: this guy, this guy, he could do it. I liked.

885
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: I like the player, I really do. And for somebody

886
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 1: who just started playing defense just a couple of seasons ago,

887
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: I think he's a pretty darned and tackler too. Yeah,

888
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: Like his foundation that he's said as a tacklers is solid.

889
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: The willingness is there. Oh yeah, Well, I issue was

890
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: right about the special team stuff because I wrote down

891
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: here specially played well special teams as a gunner. So

892
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: that's at outside the flyer guy and stuff like that.

893
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: That's not an easy position to play either. Especial gunners

894
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: are now I do. I do like Riley Moss as

895
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: well from Mayowa. Oh okay, that's a good one too,

896
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: less corner at Iowa. That's a guy that I think,

897
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: like when you talk about the one of the things

898
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: that I think you see with Moss is where he'd

899
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: be a really good fit is like that Fangio like

900
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: man match scheme, because I think he's really really smart.

901
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: Like in terms of I think he's got a high IQ's,

902
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: he's big, he's physical. Obviously some of the long speed

903
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: I think is a question there, but I think he's

904
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 1: got a chance to be a really good player. Yeah.

905
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: When I first watched him, the first time I watched him,

906
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: I thought about when the Cowboys used Jordan Lewis that

907
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: one time against the Saints. Yeah, how they kind of

908
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: were like al Kamara or yea, yeah there, like he

909
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: gets nothing. It kind of felt like he could do

910
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: something like that. In my opinion, That's what I first

911
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: thought about him when I watched him. Very nice. All right,

912
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: final question before we take our second break, Douglas ask.

913
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: In your mock Draft show last week, Brian said that

914
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: he has a first round grade on Jamir Gibbs. I

915
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: also have a first round grade Jamir Gibbs. Would you

916
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 1: take Gibbs at twenty six if there were no other

917
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 1: first round grades left on your board, if you were

918
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: in the draft room, you were in the war room,

919
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: and you were able to put that, he would be

920
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: the best player. He would be the best player on

921
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: my board then, because I like, he's like if when

922
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,919
Speaker 1: you're going to put him in the stock, he's going

923
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: to be He's going to be if if you have

924
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 1: twenty first round grades, he's likely to be the twentieth player.

925
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: So to me, I would that would be if if

926
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm not gonna window dress my board. If

927
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: I feel like he's a first round talent and he's

928
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: there at twenty six. I'll handle I'll hand that card in.

929
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: I think I would too, I would hand that card

930
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: in that This guy there is not a huge difference

931
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: between him and Bijean Robinson. I mean, this guy is ald,

932
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: this guy is a runner. This guy catches the ball well,

933
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: and he blocks. I've seen him do some blitz pickup

934
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: stuff that saved Bryce Young and allowed them to make

935
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 1: big plays down the field because of awareness in the

936
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: pocket of him crossing and picking up guys flying off

937
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: the edge. That's a that's a skill that you have

938
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: to have, I think to play in the National Football League,

939
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: those three down players. That ability to be that type

940
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: of guy, I think is big. I think he's a

941
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: phenomenal player. I originally, I think I was with you

942
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: up until about a month ago, where I didn't think

943
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: there was a big gap between games and Bijon. Then

944
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: I went back and watched Bijean again and just some

945
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 1: of the things that he did kind of distance themselves

946
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,919
Speaker 1: a little bit. But I think gives is a first

947
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: round talent of a player because, like you said, pass

948
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: protection at the NFL level is crucial it's not just

949
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: a recommendation like it is in college. You can get

950
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: away with being a good running back and not pass

951
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: protecting with the best of them. If you're gonna be

952
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: a starting running backstarting caliber running back, you're gonna have

953
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: to do some sort of pass protection at a certain level.

954
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: Gibbs can do that, and he's just a weapon. And

955
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: the receivers games a weapon all the way through. And

956
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: I mean the vision and the patience behind the line

957
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: of scrimmage is just phenomenal. So all right, that does

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Speaker 1: it for Twitter. On the twenty. When we come back,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do some tell me more about some prospects

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00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: around this Cowboys team and potentially some guys to look

961
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: forward to over the next couple of weeks. We'll be

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Speaker 1: It's our very own mock draft in there as well

1012
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: from the first round. Was it Zach de picked u

1013
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: Hendon Hooker? Yes? Or use for Minnesota that's getting a

1014
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: lot of momentum now, Yes, Hooker going to first round?

1015
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: How about that? And we'll get Zach wolcheck back on

1016
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:46,439
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1017
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: doing some some baseball stuff, so he's busy. Right now.

1018
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: We got Bobby Belt, Brian brought us Aisha Boris and

1019
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeoman's time now to do some tell me more.

1020
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: How about mister Jacqueline Roy from LSU. I want to

1021
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 1: know more about this? Goat higus, Bryan. I guess you

1022
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: want to start with me. We'll start with you. He's

1023
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,919
Speaker 1: one of the players that gives you everything he has.

1024
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: He's six three, he's three oh five. He was a

1025
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: highly recruited player at a high school in Baton Rouge.

1026
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: There he's projected to be the next big thing. On

1027
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: the LSU defense, and he was kind of just an

1028
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: okay player. But the more you watch him, the more

1029
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: you like the way he plays. He's a little tight

1030
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: in that lower body, which prevents him from kind of

1031
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: like really you know, controlling the gap like he needs to.

1032
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: But he's got upper body power and energy. He's a

1033
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: I mean that if you play him on one gap

1034
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: where he just attacks that quickness, he could get up

1035
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: the field. He's got that two gap potential. When to

1036
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: talk about two gap, it's you control the blocker, you

1037
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: look inside, you look outside, and then you get rid

1038
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 1: of the guy and you go. It's a little bit

1039
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 1: more of a reading type of a thing. He's capable

1040
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: of doing that. But you know, the thing I like

1041
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 1: about him the best is that he he plays a

1042
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 1: lot of snaps. You see defensive lineman that will play

1043
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: four or five plays and then they go out and

1044
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: they're tired and they don't see him for a while.

1045
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: This guy keeps playing and you never see him really

1046
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: come off the field. And LU likes to rotate their guys,

1047
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,760
Speaker 1: but he plays a lot, a large number of snaps

1048
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: for a bigger guy. But I kind of feel like

1049
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: he's a better run player than he is a pass

1050
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: guy because they use him on twists and things and

1051
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: you don't see the success all the time there. Yeah

1052
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: you've seen him. Yeah, I watched him last night. Uh.

1053
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: The first thing I rolled down is said, I said,

1054
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 1: this is a thick human or his ankles even look thick.

1055
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: Man Like that's a big dude, Like I was just

1056
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: watching him. Uh, like you were talking about he is.

1057
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: I would I would. I would say that he's a

1058
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: true nose and that's where you should probably line him

1059
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: up at felt like, Um, he had a nice he

1060
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: had a nice explosion off the line of scrimmage at

1061
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: the ball. But he uh, there was some inconsistency in

1062
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: his in his rep winds. I feel like he can

1063
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: get pushed off the ball sometimes, like you were talking about.

1064
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: So having him just do one thing to start, or

1065
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: having him master doing that one thing to start would

1066
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 1: be good. So when you talk about we talk about

1067
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: what do you need? What do you want? Right? Do

1068
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: you want a guy to just come in and stop

1069
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: the run or just call oug up some space? This

1070
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: is to do right here. He's not a super He's

1071
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: not going to me. It doesn't look like he's going

1072
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: to give you a lot of like pass rush and

1073
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Nah, probably not Like I mean, I

1074
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: think he has the athleticism to do it. It's not

1075
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: anything that's been developed yet. He moves really well for

1076
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: how big he is. Um. But I think he's got

1077
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: the chance to be like a really really good run defender.

1078
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: In general, it's really difficult to like, he wins with

1079
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 1: leverage pretty consistently. I think it's difficult to get him

1080
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: on reach blocks. I think that his best chance to

1081
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: be a pass rusher is going to be on some

1082
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: of the twists and stunts that they like running here too. Um.

1083
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: And So I think he's a really intriguing player. I mean,

1084
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: i'd be interested in him in the fourth fifth round. Yeah,

1085
00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: I think you got him right there. Y. Yes, I'm sorry, Jaquan. Yeah,

1086
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna say these people's name right and Peel, I'm

1087
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: just kidding. Oh, I was like, wait a second, so

1088
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: we got so we got Kyle for to say the name.

1089
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: What's her guards name again? Steve Avula Aula like the

1090
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: old Tiger's catcher Alex And yes, for those of you listening,

1091
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: Steve of Vila, it's Avula everybody. But it's to me,

1092
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: all those jerks, all right, tell me more about Braydon Willis,

1093
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: tight end out of Oklahoma. Good frame, good foundation as

1094
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: a blocker was the first thing I had written down.

1095
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: He's actually a local prospect too, Arlington Martin High School.

1096
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: Play in the shadow of AT and T. Yeah, I'll

1097
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: started off strong hands when packing a punch on a block,

1098
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: experience playing with some of the best quarterbacks of course

1099
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: in college football, and he worked well to all parts

1100
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: of the field. Because of that, he had some versatility,

1101
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,720
Speaker 1: going back and forth to the sideline, to the interior

1102
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: of the field, going playing in between the hash marks.

1103
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,240
Speaker 1: One thing I had against him is he's not polished

1104
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: enough in contested situations. There were a lot of times

1105
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: when he's in traffic and he looked uncomfortable. He's gonna

1106
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: get tested by those physical defenders at the second level

1107
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: that you didn't see a whole lot at the Big twelve,

1108
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: and I think because of that, it's gonna be a

1109
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: little bit of a learning curve. But I think overall

1110
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 1: he's a he's a good receiver, he's a better blocker

1111
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: at the tight end position. I like him in the

1112
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 1: mid rounds. I think he's a fourth or a fifth

1113
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: round guy. But as an under the radar tight end prospect,

1114
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: I think he's somebody that can grow and be better

1115
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: for your football tie. I got issues with it. Feels

1116
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: he feels very tweener, like okay, like like I mean

1117
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: just in general though, like it's one of these things

1118
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: where he is smaller, so it's not like the prototypical

1119
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 1: like one by the way, but then he's not like

1120
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 1: this athletic threat that can you know, pressure defenses that

1121
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: way and that he can be more of the Evan

1122
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,959
Speaker 1: Ingram type of tight end. And we're not talking about

1123
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: a first round player here, so that's not necessarily the

1124
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 1: skill set. I will say he's very tough. I like

1125
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: in general his willingness to make plays in traffic. I

1126
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: think he's got solid hands. But overall, I mean, I

1127
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: didn't see a ton that thrilled me about him. He'd

1128
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: be very late on the board for him. I liked

1129
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: paying Durham from Purdue better. He's six six, two fifty three.

1130
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 1: I think I think you guys are talking about the

1131
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: size and stuff. Durham at eleven, I have Willis at twelve. Yeah,

1132
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: and the time I just if you gave me a

1133
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 1: choice between the two of those kind of those late guys.

1134
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: I think you both got the player right. I just

1135
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,240
Speaker 1: I like paying Durham a little bit better from Purdue.

1136
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: What do you think about about Willis specifically? I kind

1137
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: of feel like though to me, like to say, Bobby's

1138
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: got him right with the tweener stuff. You know, I

1139
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: just you wonder if you're going to be a tweener guy,

1140
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: you got to make more of the plays down the

1141
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: field and stuff like that. And I you know that

1142
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: part of me worried me a little bit about him,

1143
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: you know, again, the separation to catching the ball and

1144
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 1: stuff like that. He's got some yards after the catchability. Yeah.

1145
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: But the thing about it is, though, to me, like

1146
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: I it was one of those things where he just

1147
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 1: didn't fit my eye when I was thinking about because

1148
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: there's so many of these guys. Okay, I'll give you

1149
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: an example two of another guy. I'll give you another

1150
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: guy that you know, we talk about Kincaide's six four

1151
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: two forty six. You know, but that's a first round

1152
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: potentially first round guy. I'll give you another guy, Dennis

1153
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: Davis Allen from Clemson. Yeah, Okay, there's like if you're

1154
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 1: going to go and and talk about a guy like

1155
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: we're just visiting on I have guys ahead at him

1156
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: that I would did. I would say, you know, if

1157
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: if it comes down to I think I would take

1158
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 1: somebody else as opposed to hand that tag in. I

1159
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: think that hender Shot and Ferguson are both better options

1160
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: coming out of school than Willis was. That's fair. What

1161
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: about Zach Kountz from Old Dominion? Okay, you go for it.

1162
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: I used you know this one. No, I talked about him,

1163
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: I talked about him, did bring him up, and I

1164
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: went and watched him, and I like it is, yes, Ruin.

1165
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: You don't want to say it the other way. You

1166
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: must see me on Twitter like I always say it

1167
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: like Koont's and everybody goes, sure you do. Wait, what

1168
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: does that mean Beamers about to catch her micro? No,

1169
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: we're about to get kicked off the air. I'm just

1170
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: staying that's how he says his name, right, I mean

1171
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: I just responded to Twitter question. No, No, he's a

1172
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: he's a dude. People are people. I'm trying to do

1173
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 1: good work here. I don't know what everybody great work, Brian,

1174
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: I don't know what everybody I don't know what everybody

1175
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: else out there is trying to do. That doesn't for us.

1176
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: You're on the Draft show. Don't tell me about the player.

1177
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: Tell me about Old Dominion tight end. And I'm not

1178
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: even gonna say his name again. Shout out to Old Dominion,

1179
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: by the way, Shout out to Old Dominion for the

1180
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: three cameras set up on their film. It is the

1181
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: best film in the entire country. Wow, you can see

1182
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: everything because their broadcast doesn't have a whole lot of

1183
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: put in quotes. Older guy, Okay, I'll know. What I

1184
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: was thinking, is he I don't have his birthday on

1185
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: here yet, barnacles. You know, well, I said, older guys,

1186
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: so he must be he's a trans penn State Yeah, okay, yeah, okay,

1187
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: so yeah, he's a Penn State transfer. Sorry, he got

1188
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: injured last season. He was dealing with a knee or

1189
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: something like that. I think that's why he's kind of

1190
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: been under the radar a little bit. But um uh,

1191
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: I was about to say, oh yeah, I sneakily said

1192
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: that I felt like he was one of the more

1193
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: athletic tight ends in this year. Not wrong. He can

1194
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: high point the ball. I thought I he was a

1195
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: red zone threat, and um, I think with the right coaching,

1196
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: he can definitely, you know, get better in the blocking game.

1197
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: I guess that would be the only like and I

1198
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: would even call it a knock because the willingness, like

1199
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: we talk about, is the willingness there is he trying?

1200
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: Is he trying to put hands on guys? I think

1201
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: he plays through traffic pretty well too. He's not afraid

1202
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: to play through traffic. And like we were just talking

1203
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,439
Speaker 1: about with Willis, that's something he struggles with. That's something

1204
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: that I'm looking for with tight ends, especially because people

1205
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: are creating track man that that that athletic says, I

1206
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: don't even know that that's it's aggressive, Like I mean

1207
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: when seven he ran four or five five he jump? No,

1208
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: I know, I'm just saying, it's when you look at

1209
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: the testing, it's absurd. How athletic this guy is six

1210
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: eight seven three cone at sixty seven, which you say,

1211
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: it's not something you always see. No, no, no, I know.

1212
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just saying when you look at it,

1213
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: like it's like, holy cow, what a freaking athlete. When

1214
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: you jumped forty inches, you got a broad of eleven

1215
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: almost you got the six eight three Cone. It's just

1216
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: wild how athletic this guy. It shows up on tape,

1217
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: the target in the red zone stuff. He could finish.

1218
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: This guy. He's got a lot of raw ability. That's

1219
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: what I said. He's a productive too, because I think

1220
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: he second in the in the league in receptions uh

1221
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: last year. So he um as a tight end. So

1222
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: he's gonna get the production. And Will McClay mentioned on

1223
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: the draft show with us is production? He said production

1224
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: with us, So I think that's important moving forward with

1225
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: these draftees. But I said sneakily because again I feel

1226
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 1: like people have he's fallen down people's boards because of

1227
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: the injury that he had last season, and I think

1228
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: that I would. That's why I was like, I think

1229
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: he for me. I was like, Oh, who's this dude

1230
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: that for me? Sneaky to find him. That's the way

1231
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: O keep in mind having mister what's his name again? Brian,

1232
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: y'all going to jail, old dominion, tight end, keep him

1233
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: on your I'm an old man. They can't throw me

1234
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: in JA. We'll be back tomorrow eleven am Central time.

1235
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: Damn right, we'll be back. We're gonna have some more

1236
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: fun tomorrow. I got a career day, but I'll see

1237
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:30,919
Speaker 1: y'all next week. Career day. That's gonna be a fourth

1238
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: grade class. It's got a job better than making money

1239
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: on the radio. Daughter's fourth grade class. We gotta go

1240
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: do that. Tell them the stuff you talk about on

1241
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 1: the radia. Yeah, I'm going to tell him about Zach

1242
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: koontz Ysha. I'm gonna talk about that name. That's it for.

1243
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: Brian brought us from Bobby Belt for Ayisha Morris and

1244
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: Chris Beam. In the back, I'm Kyle Yeomen saying so

1245
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: long from the Draft show. We'll see you tomorrow. Presented

1246
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,640
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