1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the podcast. Fred Hey, and this is 2 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: one moan about drama. 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: I'm very excited, very special, very special episode for us. 4 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: We were going to do it in a very refreshing 5 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: new start in the show. 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: But Freddy, expectively, you know, has started our episode officially, 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: so because we're talking. 8 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: Man, yes, I know he's dropping the jewels. Man, I 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: gotta get it on camera. 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: Well as you know, Uh, those Amigos is not technically 11 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: a show where you know, it's like you know, it's 12 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 2: not it's not it's not heavy relighting on on the 13 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 2: stories of of our guests. 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: We were kind of explored so much of our lives. 15 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 2: But in the conversation of our lives, yes, certain individuals 16 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: have popped up and we're like, I ever had someone 17 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: on this show. I had to be Yeah, this man 18 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: right here, know and I'm sorry. I want to you know, 19 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: I want to introduce Lewis House, one of the most 20 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: uh just a prolific voices of inspiration. 21 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: You know, what are you going going to? 22 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 3: How many years now twelve years. 23 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: Of twelve years of podcasting? 24 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: You know your lunch? I mean multiple books? How many 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: books now? 26 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 3: Five? 27 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: Five books? 28 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 2: And uh he he's someone that is very important to me. 29 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: We've we've done a pretty. 30 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 2: Uh, pretty intensive uh we've done our best with the 31 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: lives that we've had to stay connected and soultly connected 32 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: in the energy. 33 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: We absolutely have to do better to the end person. 34 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: But our lives have taken so many different place, you know, 35 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: to so many different places. And I was just excited, 36 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: you know, when I was talking New Freddy about about you, 37 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: I just wanted to start by saying that, you know, 38 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: you started out exploring some of the greatest minds that 39 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: have inspired the plan on it have inspired different sectors 40 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: of our worlds and interests, from sports to business, to 41 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: entertainment to the spiritual world, you know, and all that. 42 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 2: And and I was telling him many years ago that 43 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: for me, the more I watched everything he did, the 44 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: more I realized that the attention went from some of 45 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: the amazing voices that he was carrying on his show 46 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: to like, what does he think his perspective perspective because 47 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: he's been able to really summerse himself in so many philosophies, 48 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: and you know, we're very big in philosophy over here, 49 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: you know, so for us was very excited to kind 50 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: of explore that and to basically you know, in many ways. 51 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: So it's give you, give you your flowers. You know, 52 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: you Bob lifted. You've changed so many people's lives. You've 53 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: inspired so many people to shade their own selves and 54 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: become better versions of themselves. And you have had your 55 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: own transformative process too, you know. And I think in 56 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 2: the process of hearing all this wisdom, applying it to 57 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: your life and understanding we're all going to make the mistakes, 58 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: We're all gonna have an appeal battle with certain things 59 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: that you know match or not match other people's journeys. 60 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: You know, it's what you take from it. So I 61 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:07,559 Speaker 1: was excited. 62 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 2: I literally texted him two seconds He says, yes, what time, 63 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, okay, fine. 64 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: Up, and I just uh so, first and foremost, thank you. 65 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: It's a very informal conversation about inspiration and things like that, 66 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: but also kind of like our. 67 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: Way to, you know, to to say thank you. 68 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 2: You know, I appreciate it for the stuff that you've 69 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: done for so many communities. 70 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 3: And Puppy can go yeah, almost that's the new podcast. 71 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 4: One thing I appreciate about you, and hopefully we'll get 72 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 4: to connect more for it in the future, buddy, even 73 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 4: though you're so busy doing all the projects that you're 74 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 4: doing and fatherhood, married, all these different things. We unfortunately 75 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 4: we haven't seen each other that frequently, but when we do, 76 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 4: we go really deep, so it feels like a strong 77 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 4: bond and it feels like I just saw you, even 78 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 4: though it was a couple of years ago. 79 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 3: We text, we call, but it's like seeing each other. 80 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 4: It just feels like I just saw you because of 81 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 4: that bond that we go deep. 82 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: When we do talk and I do pick. 83 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: Up or we left off, it's it's still just as 84 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: you know, as as as profound you know, and uh 85 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: and you know you you really and I and I 86 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: don't say this often at all, and you know, many 87 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: fifteen plus episodes so far and you know more, you 88 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: haven't really said this, but there's very very few individuals 89 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: at at the meeting have stayed with me in such 90 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: a philosophical in such an insightful way. And your honesty, 91 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 2: your energy, your way, your heart is open, and we're 92 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: going to explore so many of those things today in 93 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 2: this conversation and really understanding you know, the the where 94 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: you came from, where you were, you know, and how 95 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: you got here because it's so important for us to 96 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 2: really humanize you know, you know that destination. 97 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: But anyways, Freddy, you have any and to understand the journey. 98 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 5: Well, but before we started the show, we realized that 99 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 5: we're both too Midwest guys. 100 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 101 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 5: We were just kind of talking about the values Midwest 102 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 5: values and the way that we roll speak. 103 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 3: To everyone in line. 104 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 5: It's a very specific thing, yes, yes, that time, Like 105 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 5: you know, you got East Coast people, you got West 106 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 5: Coast people, but there's something very specific about Midwest. 107 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: And when when he said that, I was like, ah, okay, yeah, yeah, 108 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: we're speaking the same language. So you were born in Ohio. 109 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 3: Small town, Delaware, Ohio. 110 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, in Delaware, Ohio. 111 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 3: And so what I lived in the Northwest suburbs for 112 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 3: a summer. Okay, in Chicago, you did. 113 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 4: I lived in Northwest suburbs. Yeah, where about Arlington Heights Okay? 114 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 4: And I played college football there a few Diman times 115 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 4: where it was a Naperville. 116 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 3: I played a playoff game there. So I've been around Chicago. 117 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 4: I've been to Wrigley games and the bleachers, shirt off, 118 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 4: the whole thing. 119 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 3: Nice man and so. 120 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 4: Waste of Chicago. Fourth of July, Taste of Chicago, all 121 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 4: that stuff I lived. 122 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 5: I'm I'm I'm going to start this off by saying, 123 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 5: I'm a fan. Okay, I've watched your stuff in the past, 124 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 5: and I've been really intrigued about your trajectory and where 125 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 5: you started and where you out now. I was just 126 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 5: out right before we got here, I was watching some 127 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 5: of your latest episodes and us being too Midwest. It's 128 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 5: like you all of a sudden interviewing people like a monk, 129 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 5: or like Billy Carson, or. 130 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: Like, like, what's that trajectory? 131 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 5: Like how do you go from being a kid like 132 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 5: me from the Midwest, right with those particular values and 133 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 5: those particular mindsets, right? And you know what I mean 134 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 5: by sure, right to expanding your brain that way and 135 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 5: interviewing people like that. 136 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 4: I lived with a lot of insecurity and my first 137 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 4: my first core memories. One of my earliest memory, I 138 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 4: think I've told you this, I've told them to my 139 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 4: show many times, was being sexually abused by a man 140 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 4: that I didn't know. 141 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 3: So that was where. 142 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 4: My my brain developed with this is the world, you know, 143 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 4: and this is something that happened to me. 144 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 3: So therefore I'm unlovable. 145 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 4: I'm abusable, I'm taken for granted, I'm used all these 146 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,559 Speaker 4: different things. So that's what like shaped in my brain 147 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 4: when I was eight until I was five. When I 148 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 4: was eight, my brother went to prison for selling drugs 149 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 4: to an undercover cop small town, Ohio. This stuff didn't 150 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 4: happen in like a small kind of middle class, mostly white, 151 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 4: suburban neighborhood, and so I didn't know anyone that went 152 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 4: to prison. 153 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 3: So my brother's eleven years older than me. 154 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 4: I was eight, he was nineteen, and it was an 155 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 4: undercover cop that caught him asking him for LSD and 156 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 4: he was like just kind of like buying a little 157 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 4: weed back in the day in college. He was like, 158 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 4: I don't know how to get it, but they kept 159 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 4: pushing it, and so he was like, well, let me 160 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 4: go ask someone and ask someone and then found it out. 161 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 4: So he went to prison, sentenced six to twenty five 162 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 4: years because it was the war against drugs back in 163 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 4: the early nineties, and he got off for four and 164 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 4: a half in good behavior. But it marked my brain, 165 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 4: in my family's brains, and the emotions, the stress, the fear, 166 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 4: the drama, the guilt, shame, all that stuff was mixed up, 167 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 4: and my parents. They loved us kids. I was the 168 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 4: youngest of four, but they didn't love each other, so 169 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 4: they didn't show love. So I was telling you before, 170 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 4: I was like, I never saw myself getting married because 171 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 4: I never felt safe emotionally in a relationship. So that's 172 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 4: then there's multiple instances where I just never felt enough. 173 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 4: I was in the bottom of my class all through school, 174 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 4: so I just felt very insecure for most of my 175 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 4: childhood and very emotionally. My nervous system was always kind 176 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 4: of in fire or flight. Yeah, and that just shaped 177 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 4: a belief system in me, and that belief system, whatever 178 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 4: we have, shapes and influences our behaviors. So I behaved 179 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 4: in a way that was very anxious. I behaved in 180 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 4: a way where I clinged on to people. I would 181 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 4: change who I was to please people because I wanted 182 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 4: to feel safe and secure, and I chased things to 183 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 4: seek approval. I chased you know, being good in sports, 184 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 4: making money, girls, whatever it was, because my belief system was, Okay, 185 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 4: you're not good enough, you're unlovable, and people take advantage 186 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 4: of you. 187 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 3: So my behavior has just matched my beliefs. That's what 188 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 3: we all do. 189 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 4: Our beliefs influence our behaviors, and our beliefs are formed 190 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 4: on our the meaning we give our memories. So the 191 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 4: memories I had for twenty five years, I imagined myself 192 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 4: being sexually abused. 193 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 3: In a bathroom by a guy that I didn't know. 194 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 4: It was just kind of like a movie playing that 195 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 4: I would just try to block and then focus on 196 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 4: something else, but it was always coming up, and that 197 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 4: interpretation of the event, the memory created a sense of 198 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 4: fear within my body. My nervous system was emotionally charged 199 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 4: and not heightened. And again that interpretation. Until I mend 200 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 4: or heal that memory, that's going to live inside of 201 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 4: me and it's going to shape my beliefs, what's going 202 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 4: to influence my behaviors, which is going to create. 203 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 3: My environment in my reality. 204 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 4: You have stuff from childhood, if you've healed it or 205 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 4: you haven't, it shaped you from being married to the 206 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 4: person you're married to, from moving to LA for whatever 207 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 4: reason you moved to LA, and maybe it was because 208 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 4: you had a dream, or maybe it's because you felt 209 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 4: you need to prove something. Either way, it shaped you 210 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 4: getting here. And it doesn't mean it's right or wrong, 211 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 4: good or bad. It's just that's the result of our environment. 212 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 4: You were talking about this before we started rolling. I 213 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 4: was like, how are all the projects going? And you're like, 214 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 4: it's good, but and you said, oh, I have to 215 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 4: notice even just saying it's good, it's not where I 216 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 4: want it to be. 217 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 3: But I'm reflecting that. 218 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 4: I'm just responding that it's good because I have an 219 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 4: expectation that the amount of effort I put in should 220 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 4: be getting me a certain type of result based on 221 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 4: a comparison of what I've already had before, based on 222 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 4: where I'm out of my career and how successful I am, 223 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 4: or how people perceive me. 224 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 3: I'm just making this no. 225 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 2: But it's actually because you're right that question triggered the. 226 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 4: This friend is doing this and it looks effortless and 227 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 4: he's everywhere she's. 228 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: Well, I don't. Definitely. 229 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: That's one thing that I feel really healthy about is 230 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 2: I've never compared myself to somebody else's success. But to 231 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: your point, is I am comparing the success based on 232 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: the image of what I feel that would be. And 233 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: I think for entrepreneurs and people's way them vision, but 234 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: am vision is is. 235 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: Very hard to have a feel. 236 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: We got there right, right, and I think the uh 237 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 2: so when you ask the question, one of the things 238 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: to your point, and very very intuitive by the way, 239 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: that's louis housing if. 240 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: You're tuning in right now. 241 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 2: The it's is the ability to say, Okay, if I'm 242 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 2: going to be honest, I'm not going to give someone 243 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 2: that I respect and admire and love so much the 244 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 2: answer is like. 245 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: Everything's doing really good, really great. 246 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 3: How are you? 247 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,239 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be like, it's good. 248 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: You know, there is just a couple of imbalances, right, 249 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 2: and I have to recognize those imbalances in order for 250 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 2: me to more efficient about the next go around exactly. 251 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: And so that's like, so that's why. 252 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: And to your point, it does bring up things from 253 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: the past, like where have I felt that I have 254 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 2: not done enough? 255 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 1: And now I'm doing all of it and more and 256 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: it's still not enough. 257 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 3: Right. 258 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 5: So yeah, but it's but it's bringing up those negative imbalances. 259 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 5: Is that projecting bad energy. 260 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 3: Is what specifically projecting bad energy is. 261 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 5: You know, we talk about manifestation and we talk about 262 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 5: projecting good energy. I mean, it's it's not like lying, 263 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 5: but it's like and this is it is me digging 264 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 5: more into like what I've been seeing you do lately 265 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 5: is is wie. We're being honest about what's not positive? 266 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 5: Is that a good or a bad thing? Because by 267 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 5: you projecting that it's bad, you are then projecting that 268 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 5: bad energy, So. 269 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 3: Is that bad? 270 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 4: A lot of my yeah, a lot of my thinking 271 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 4: is more around not is what is right or wrong, 272 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 4: good or bad? 273 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 3: Because that's a very judgmental way of thinking. 274 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 4: And again even that is not right or wrong, good 275 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 4: or bad, But it's not saying is what he's saying 276 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 4: good or bad? By reflecting that way, I'm thinking more, 277 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 4: is it serving him in this moment? 278 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 3: Is that way of responding thinking serving him? 279 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 4: And it sounds like he's being authentic and in alignment 280 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 4: with how he's feeling, so saying it's good. 281 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 3: It's not where I wanted to be, but it's good. 282 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 4: It's serving because it's in alignment with who he is 283 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 4: right now, just being honest. Now, some people in his 284 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 4: position might be saying, I am the effort I'm putting 285 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 4: out there is getting a certain type of results. 286 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 3: Sure do, I wish it was bigger. I had a 287 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 3: book that just came out. 288 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 4: Sure do I wish I had tens of thousands more 289 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 4: copies sold, of course, and I can still be grateful 290 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 4: for the impact that I'm making with you out of 291 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 4: sales that I've had and the success that the Scott 292 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 4: and the people that came out of whatever it is. 293 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 4: It's like the amount of people that are watching on TV. 294 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 4: Sure we want it to be the number one show, 295 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 4: but it's the number three show or whatever it is. 296 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 4: But still, man, I'm living my dreams. I live in 297 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 4: a beautiful home. My daughter is a sleeping another room. 298 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 4: I got my friends and family here. I'm having a 299 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 4: conversation with dos Amigos so popp BEGINNINGO. 300 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 3: And I'm healthy. I get to even though I wake 301 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 3: up at five am. I get to train every single day. 302 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 3: What a blessing. 303 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 4: So I think it's perspective and it doesn't mean we 304 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 4: can't be striving for more. But it's just striving for 305 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 4: more because I'm not good enough, or I'm beating myself up, 306 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 4: or I need to prove something wrong to the bullies 307 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 4: that picked on me all through middle school or whatever, 308 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 4: or the person who abused me or whatever it is. 309 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 4: For so much in my life, I was driven to 310 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 4: prove people wrong and to show people why I'm lovable, 311 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 4: and it was just an unconscious like thing. It wasn't 312 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 4: like I was consciously like, I'm gonna do this every 313 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 4: single day and work my asshole, you know, and train 314 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 4: and show up and do these things because of those 315 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 4: four kids have made fun of me. 316 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 3: It wasn't like was. 317 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 2: There a moment, a conversation or an instance where you saw, oh, 318 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: I just cracked it and now I'm looking within and 319 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 2: that's enough, Like is there you know, especially when you're 320 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: saying like I'm seeking approval, I'm seeking you know, I'm 321 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: going in my mind, I'm still going against the bully's Like, 322 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 2: is there a moment that cracked the ice and you 323 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: were like, oh, I think I can follow that correct. 324 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 5: Because you were saying it's unconscious, So when when does 325 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 5: it become conscious? When do you go, oh, man, I'm 326 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 5: a I don't know, as people please you're the right 327 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 5: terminology or like. 328 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 4: Percent people pleaser yeah, or people prove her. It was 329 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 4: like trying to prove people wrong or please people to 330 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 4: like fit in right. So it was a combination of 331 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 4: all the mixed up emotions and all the traumas, right, 332 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 4: I think there was there was a number of different 333 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 4: moments in my journey over the last ten twelve years 334 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 4: of the healing journey, because it's not a moment. There's 335 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 4: a moment of AHA, but there's usually a process of 336 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 4: integration and then a follow through once you get the 337 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 4: aha of your nervous system feeling relaxed when it's emotionally 338 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 4: or psychologically triggered in the future, so we can be 339 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 4: we're tested every day. 340 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 3: You know. It's like the traffic I'm here. 341 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 4: If I had anger inside of me, I would have 342 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 4: been enraged, because I haven't inside of me still any 343 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 4: in a little trigger, it's going to come out of me, 344 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 4: but it's peaceful and I know I'm coming to see him, 345 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 4: so I'm not upset about it. There was a moment 346 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 4: four years ago where I was going through a challenging 347 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 4: time and a breakup, where I was in a relationship 348 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 4: trying to figure out how to navigate it, trying to 349 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 4: figure out how. 350 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 3: To make it work, and it wasn't working. For like 351 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 3: a year year and a half. 352 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 4: We started doing therapy individually and together, and we weren't 353 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 4: getting breakthroughs. It was like six to eight hour sessions 354 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 4: on the weekends and no breakthrough and I felt like 355 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 4: I had changed and transformed and reinvented and people pleased 356 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 4: to my limit. And that had been a pattern of 357 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 4: mine in intimacy with multiple relationships, and it all stems 358 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 4: from a belief around these core wounds from my parents 359 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 4: getting divorced but just never really should have been together 360 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 4: in the first place, and having these kind of psychological 361 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 4: emotional wounds that I had from previous relationships. 362 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 3: Not saying that I was perfect or anything, just my 363 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 3: own beliefs. 364 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 4: And there was a moment where I had this chest 365 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 4: pain for years that would come and go and it 366 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 4: was almost felt like someone was strangling me. I don't 367 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 4: know if you ever held this just some life. It 368 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 4: was almost like I couldn't speak, like someone had their 369 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 4: arm around my throat. It was like a weight of 370 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 4: ball in my chest that would come and go in relationships. 371 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 4: And this was here during this couple year relationship. And 372 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 4: at one point in a therapy session, it's like my 373 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 4: coach said something to me. After six months of going 374 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 4: through processing, she says something to me, and it was 375 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 4: like I finally got it, and I never felt this 376 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 4: before in my life, but this pain, it was a 377 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 4: ball of pain in my chest it's almost like it 378 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 4: exploded internally. It felt like a rush of fluid throughout 379 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 4: my whole body. I thought I did something to hurt 380 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 4: myself because it was a rush of fluid throughout my body. 381 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 4: I didn't know what it was and I had to 382 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 4: really stop in the session. But I haven't felt that 383 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 4: pain since. Wow, it's been four years, and I felt 384 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 4: more peace within my body, and I feel like that's 385 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 4: my nervous system feeling like the adult version of me 386 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 4: finally said. 387 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 3: To the young version of me, I got you. 388 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 4: I'm not going to allow anyone to cross boundaries anymore. 389 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 4: And it's like the littlest boundaries to the biggest boundaries. 390 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 4: And it doesn't mean I need to react and be 391 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 4: this big tough guy to create a boundary. It's just 392 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 4: learning to say no, or learning to say I can't 393 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 4: show up for you and do this, or just saying no, 394 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 4: I can't promote whatever. It is just learning to say 395 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 4: no and being okay with people reacting how they want 396 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 4: to react. 397 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 5: And can you share what the therapist said to you. 398 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: That made you. 399 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 4: I think I'm trying to remember the exact thing, but 400 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 4: I was exercise it. There was multiple exercises, but there 401 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 4: was there was a moment where I was like, I 402 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 4: just want to be done with this relationship. 403 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 3: I was just like, I just want to be done, 404 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 3: and we were doing. 405 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 4: Sessions and I remember saying like, I think I want 406 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 4: to end it right now, and she said, you can 407 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 4: do whatever you want. 408 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 3: I'm not advising you what to do. 409 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 4: But if you haven't felt peace within you and you 410 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 4: just run away from the situation without creating that peace 411 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 4: and safety within you, you're likely to reattract a similar 412 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 4: experience and you're eventually going. 413 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 3: To have to find a way to create peace within you. 414 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 4: So I recommend being in the relationship and creating the 415 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 4: boundaries in the real relationship. Then you'll know when the 416 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 4: right time is if you're meant to be together or not. 417 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 4: She wasn't trying to tell me what to do, and 418 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 4: classic coach right, it's I'm giving. 419 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 3: You the answers. 420 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:16,239 Speaker 4: And then so maybe a few weeks after that, I 421 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 4: was creating all these boundaries in the relationship, and then 422 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 4: I've talked to you about this stuff before and then 423 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 4: getting the explosive reactions that I was used to and 424 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 4: just saying I don't need to do anything I don't 425 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 4: need to change who I am. Give me the silent 426 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,239 Speaker 4: treatment for three days. I'm not going to go in 427 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 4: and fix it. I'm going to create MySpace and say 428 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 4: I'm here to talk when you're ready to talk. All 429 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 4: these different things, like I was creating these boundaries for 430 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 4: the next few weeks to where I was like, oh, 431 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 4: I'm I'm okay even if this person doesn't love me, 432 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 4: because I'm learning to love myself. And intimacy was a 433 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 4: challenging thing for me just because I didn't have the 434 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 4: model or the tools on how to do that, because 435 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 4: my belief system was shaped in a way that was 436 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 4: very like just unstable, wasn't in alignment, and so I 437 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 4: was always seeking love and then people please to keep 438 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 4: the love because I. 439 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 3: Didn't want them to be upset at me. 440 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 4: Anytime you're upset to me, I was like, ah, don't 441 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 4: leave me or don't be mad at me. 442 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 3: So that I would cross my own boundary, I would 443 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 3: not be there for me. 444 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 4: And so the little boy inside of me was screaming 445 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 4: at me through ezema, through your chest pain, through feeling stranged, 446 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 4: like I'm not using my voice. 447 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 5: So so the boundary you felt it was all me 448 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 5: your decision to to. 449 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 4: Make a boundary, boundaries you over and over again, and 450 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 4: then she said something to me because I was just like, 451 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 4: I just want peace in my life. 452 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 3: And she looked at me and she said, you are peace. 453 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 3: You have to you have to own peace. 454 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 4: You can't you can't create, you can't give in to something. 455 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 4: To have peace. You have to be piece, be peace. 456 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 4: And she just kept saying, over and over again, you 457 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 4: are piece. 458 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: There's something there's something so empowering about saying I'm gonna 459 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 2: meet you. I'm just not gonna meet you there, right right, 460 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 2: most oftentimes we shake the inability for us to to 461 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 2: act within our strengths. And when we perform or try 462 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 2: to make reason within our weaknesses, that's where you open 463 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 2: the door for control. Somebody can really control those emotions 464 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 2: because they know they can get you up in that frequency. 465 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 3: Right. 466 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 2: So, in many friendships in the past, you know, you 467 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: could tell that certain friendships of mine in the past. 468 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: They wanted me to meet them here. 469 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,959 Speaker 2: You know, they wanted to bring me up to this 470 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 2: level of frequency in which frankly, I didn't feel effective, 471 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 2: I didn't feel strong, I didn't have clarity, right, So 472 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 2: I so whatever would come out of my mouth, just 473 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 2: could not solve it or could not enhance it or 474 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 2: make it feel better. 475 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: So what you're saying makes so much, and he tracks 476 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: so much. But what we're talking about. 477 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 2: You know, because in order for us to achieve, build, 478 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 2: or create or just find that piece within us, Yes, 479 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 2: you have to really understand where do you stand in 480 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 2: strength and cultivate that because that's where you can tell 481 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 2: that little. 482 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: Boy, hey, yeah, I got it, you got you. 483 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 4: So it was the first time where I felt like 484 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,239 Speaker 4: the adult was in the room, which was me, Like 485 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 4: I showed up as my adult self within my own body, 486 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 4: and I said, I got you. 487 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 3: Whether this girl. 488 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 4: Likes me or not, whether she gives me the silent 489 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 4: treatment or not, whether we're together or not, like you're good. 490 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 4: And I never knew I was going to be good 491 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 4: with just me. So it was a lot of just 492 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 4: healing the kind of wounded parts of me that never 493 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 4: got healed. You break your arm and you never heal it. 494 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 4: It's going to hurt every time you touch it. You know, 495 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 4: it's gonna the wind blows, it's going to hurt your arm. 496 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 4: It's like imagine the emotional and psychology wounds that we have, 497 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 4: especially like you know, immigrants haven't even stronger wounds of 498 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 4: just like I need to prove, I need to accelerate, 499 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 4: I need to like do it for my parents. 500 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 3: I need to get all these things. It's like men 501 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 3: deeper levels for it. 502 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 2: It was crazy, but by the way for it. For 503 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 2: what's crazy for immigrants is that they may be not 504 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 2: even a point in their lifetime where they can sit 505 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 2: with their wounds and say, I'm going to heal that. 506 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: You know, the time you don't have the time, you. 507 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 5: Have the time or maybe or maybe schools, you know, 508 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 5: or maybe not even understand the concept of healing. 509 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 3: Because your parents not even talking about that. 510 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 5: No, never, I didn't even understand the concept of healing. 511 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 5: Just in the last like two three years, like like 512 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 5: when did you as we were back to like the 513 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 5: Midwest and us, right like like, at what point did 514 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 5: you go healing is like a thing? 515 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 3: Right, Well, it wasn't until I moved out of here. 516 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 5: And I have to like heal these wounds in order 517 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 5: for me to grow into and to It. 518 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 3: Wasn't I got here. 519 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 4: But really it wasn't until I had breakdown after breakdown 520 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 4: after breakdown in my life about twelve years ago, and 521 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 4: a relationship was going bad, a business partnership was going bad, 522 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 4: and I was I was living in West Hollywood, and 523 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,479 Speaker 4: I was playing basketball a lot in the mean streets 524 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 4: of West Hollywood, and I just started getting I just 525 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 4: started getting in fights all the time to pick up basketball. 526 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 4: But this is like, essentially in Beverly Hills. It's not 527 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 4: like we're freaking comptent or something, you know, It's like we're. 528 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: Do you think that in those moments you were trying 529 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 2: to release something you didn't know what has. 530 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 3: So much anger inside of me? 531 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 4: And here's an analogy I've been talking about lately. Have 532 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 4: you guys ever heard of someone named Wayne Dyer? You 533 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 4: ever heard of this guy. He's written a lot of books. 534 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 4: He's since passed, but he was used to be a 535 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 4: big spiritual personal development guy and he has sold a 536 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 4: ton of books, all these things. 537 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 3: Me and Martha watch a lot of his content now. 538 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 3: But he passed away I think seven years ago. 539 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 4: Anyways, he used to give a speech with a great analogy, 540 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 4: and when he would go on stage, he would take 541 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 4: an orange out with him on stage and he'd say, 542 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 4: look at this orange. When you squeeze this orange. What 543 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 4: type of juice comes out of an orange? And you'd 544 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 4: ask people what comes orange juice? So if you squeeze 545 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 4: this orange, Freddy, does apple juice come out? 546 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 3: Does it? Does apple just come out of an orange? 547 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 3: It doesn't. Does grape juice come out of it? 548 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: No? No? 549 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 3: Does watermelon juice come out of an orange? No? 550 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: No it doesn't. 551 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 4: No, orange juice does. Because that's what's inside. And so 552 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 4: when we as humans are applied pressure in life, when 553 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 4: there's an audition and we've got to get ready for 554 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 4: we get it or we don't get it. When there's 555 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 4: someone calling me names, when there's traffic and someone cuts 556 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 4: us off. Whatever, whatever comes out of us is what's 557 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 4: inside of us. So if there's anger and resentment and 558 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 4: jealousy and frustration when I'm applied pressure, that emotion is 559 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 4: going to come out of me. If I'm filled with 560 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 4: peace and love and harmony in alignment because I've done 561 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 4: the healing work, then if I get the audition, I 562 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 4: don't get the audition. 563 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 3: I have a huge success. The show's number one. It's 564 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 3: my bombs. 565 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 4: Sure, maybe I'm a little saddered, just it's not bypassing 566 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 4: my emotions. But anger is not inside of me. If 567 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 4: I've healed more, and okay, I have a little disappointment, 568 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 4: But then I'm like, you know what, did I give 569 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 4: my best? Did I show up my best today? That's 570 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 4: what's inside of me, That's what should come out. So 571 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 4: what I got in all these relationships and fights and 572 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 4: I would just get triggered so easily. Now I had 573 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 4: a lot of love and joy inside of me as well, 574 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 4: So when good things happened, I was like the passion guy, 575 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 4: fun guy. But you trigger that broken arm that wound 576 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 4: inside of me. Boom, you hit that button. It's like, 577 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 4: let's go and defend myself. And that came from feeling 578 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 4: abused and taking advantage of and all that stuff, needing 579 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 4: to like defend myself. 580 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: So at some point you said, I want to explore more? Right, 581 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 2: and how was school for grade news? Because you've built 582 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 2: an empire out of the search for greatness? 583 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: How how did that idea started? 584 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 4: It started because I was broken during this time and 585 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 4: I was like, I need answers. Let me go find 586 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 4: the smartest people I know and start having these conversations. 587 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 4: And I was already having these conversations and these kind 588 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 4: of mentors or coaches were helping me, and I was 589 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 4: just like, people need to hear. 590 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 5: This, And did you feel like there was a correlation 591 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,479 Speaker 5: between what they were all saying. 592 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 593 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 4: I mean early the early days, I was more still 594 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 4: driven by like how do I be successful? 595 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 3: How do I be number one? How do you be 596 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 3: the best? 597 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 4: It was like learning from champions of sport or industry 598 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,719 Speaker 4: on like getting to the top. So I still driven 599 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 4: to be number one, But then I was like, oh, 600 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 4: being number one doesn't mean you're going to be happy, right, 601 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 4: Look at Wilmer. 602 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 3: I'm scared. 603 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 6: Kidding you know, right, he's place doctor met podcast and 604 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 6: hit TV show, and it's just it's going okay for me, 605 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 6: it's very good. 606 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 4: No, So it's it was a journey of like, let 607 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 4: me learn about how to first be the best I 608 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 4: can be to destroy people? 609 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 3: That was like the initial thought. 610 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,959 Speaker 4: Interesting, I mean, like be the best of my industry 611 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 4: and be number one and be looked at it as 612 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 4: like cool or whatever. And you mean in competition, how 613 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 4: can everyone talk about me all the time? 614 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 3: How can everyone talk make me look good? 615 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: You know? 616 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 3: Because I was wounded. 617 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,959 Speaker 4: I came from a place of not having friends, being 618 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 4: in the bottom of my class, being picked on, picked 619 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 4: the last, sexually abused, all these things to Okay, I'm 620 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 4: gonna prove people wrong. Let me become the best version 621 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 4: of me to prove people wrong and run away from 622 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 4: the pain. 623 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 3: So I didn't face the pain for twenty five years. 624 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 4: So I was building a version of me to run 625 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 4: away from pain, run away from bullying, sexual abuse, sadness, 626 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 4: whatever it might be. And you can only run for 627 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 4: so long until it catches up to you. Yeah, you 628 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 4: can only chase success for so long. That thing is 629 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 4: gonna keep coming out. There's a storm that's just trailing it. 630 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 4: And I felt the storm constantly, like just touching the. 631 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 3: Back of my neck. 632 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 4: And then the storm hit and it broke in every 633 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 4: relationship in my life at one point. And that's where 634 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 4: I was like, something, I'm the common denominator of all 635 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 4: these relationships and moments in life where I'm reacting. I 636 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 4: can't blame everyone else anymore. I'm realizing it's me now. 637 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 4: And that was a reflection moment where I said, let 638 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 4: me do something. 639 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: I think it was also a combination of. 640 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 2: The confret you have in certain personalities, or did you 641 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 2: really take all the blame yourself because that's a pattern, right, 642 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 2: We all have patterns, and I think you have to 643 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 2: want to appreciate that there is something you got to 644 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 2: fix or you know, restructure. 645 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: And the other one is that you have a pattern in. 646 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 2: Exposing yourself to situations and environments in which triggers that 647 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 2: other broken self of yourself. 648 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 4: Yes, and no, I think you know, when we learn 649 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 4: to love and accept ourselves and create the true boundaries 650 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 4: we need, Like we can still have people in our 651 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 4: lives and create a boundary, we don't have to eliminate 652 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 4: them fully necessarily. There might be friends or family members 653 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,239 Speaker 4: where we're creating boundaries. With some people we might need 654 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 4: to remove ourselves from completely or for out of alignment. 655 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 3: But I've learned that, Like, you know, my mom. 656 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 4: Triggers the crap out of me still, but I've learned 657 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 4: to accept her more and not get triggered as much 658 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 4: and just be like, Okay, that's just who she is, 659 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,719 Speaker 4: And I've learned to heal that relationship better as opposed 660 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 4: to feeling like she's always trying to babe. 661 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 3: Me as a forty two year old man. You know, 662 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 3: it's like a grown man, stop babying me. But now 663 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 3: I'm just like, Okay, it's my mom. I'm gonna accept 664 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna accept it, and I'm gonna. 665 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,479 Speaker 4: Love her for who she is as opposed to it 666 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 4: like really like triggering me, you know. So it's it's 667 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 4: learning how to create acceptance and boundaries at the same 668 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 4: time and and really caring less about what people think. 669 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 4: And I have a few you know, I care about 670 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 4: what my wife thinks. But I'm also I create boundaries, right. 671 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 3: You know. 672 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 4: It's because I spoke up for the first time when 673 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,479 Speaker 4: we started a relationship, and I was just like, this 674 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 4: is what I'm willing to do, and this is what 675 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 4: I'm not willing to do. 676 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 3: This is this is my this is I was like, 677 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 3: no surprise is yeah. 678 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 4: I was like, this is everything about me, And here's 679 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 4: what I believe my role should be in this relationship. 680 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 4: And I'm gonna step in one hundred percent into this role. 681 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 4: I'm not going fifty percent over here, fifty here. I'm 682 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 4: gonna be one hundred percent this and this is what 683 00:32:58,920 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 4: I can agree to. 684 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 3: Now. 685 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 4: I don't think I would have if I got married 686 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 4: in my twenties. There's no way to be stayed married. 687 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,959 Speaker 4: It was like seven failed relationships and lots of therapy 688 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 4: that got me to place of like creating boundaries and 689 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 4: to be able to speak up and say, these are 690 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 4: the agreements that I want to create with you, This 691 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 4: is where my values are, and can we agree on 692 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 4: these things. Those agreements, in my mind, create alignment where 693 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 4: we both have an expectation based on shared values and alignment, 694 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 4: and that alignment. 695 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 3: Gives me peace. 696 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 4: I told you this was like when I came in here, 697 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 4: I was like, I feel peaceful because I'm in alignment. 698 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 3: I have harmony. 699 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 4: But it was a year of having uncomfortable conversation after 700 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 4: conversation to make sure we're in alignment. So it wasn't 701 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 4: just hoping we saw eye to eye. It was like, oh, no, 702 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 4: we need to see eyd eye hear it. If not, 703 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 4: we need to make an agreement because we don't have 704 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 4: an agreement, that means we are in disagreement. You're automatically 705 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 4: you're automatically in disagreement if you do not speak about 706 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 4: a shared agreement. 707 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: Do you feel that therapy gave you those tools? 708 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 4: I'm because I think two people alone only have a 709 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 4: certain amount of tools to do everything. You know, it's 710 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 4: hard to do everything in an intimate relationship on your own. 711 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 4: It doesn't mean you always need a third party, but 712 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 4: I think when you can't do it on your own, 713 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 4: I think it's important to have a third party that 714 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 4: you both agree with. And when we started dating, within 715 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 4: the first three months of just dating non exclusively, I said, 716 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 4: I'm not getting into a committed relationship again unless the 717 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 4: person I'm committing to will start the relationship in therapy. 718 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 4: And that was that was the big move. What do 719 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 4: you mean like a couple the couple's therapy. 720 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 3: And it was the big move because I was soon 721 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 3: in the dates within. 722 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,919 Speaker 4: Six months of dating, because I was like, I don't 723 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 4: want to go down another two year relationship and then 724 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 4: break up in therapy. 725 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 3: I was like, let's start in therapy. 726 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 2: So what you say is like, hey, we're going to 727 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 2: go into therapy. Let's get the tools we need, accept. 728 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 3: And make sure we're in alignment. Otherwise let's move on. 729 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 4: Like I don't want to be in a two three 730 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 4: four year relationship because we care about each other and 731 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 4: we're good people and we'd try to make it work, but. 732 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 3: It's not working. 733 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 4: Like, let's figure this out in the first year if 734 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 4: we have a shot, and that gave me a lot 735 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 4: of peace because it was the first time I felt 736 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 4: like I had a partner willing to invest in personal 737 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 4: growth as well because I was always doing it. And 738 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 4: all the girls that I dated before never wanted to 739 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 4: do therapy together. When things were getting rough, they resisted it, 740 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 4: And I was like, why. 741 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 3: Do you think girls would die for this? You know, 742 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 3: do you think they were resisting it? 743 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 4: I chose women out of a wound, and I chose 744 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 4: I think I chose nothing against these women, but I 745 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,720 Speaker 4: don't know any woman that wouldn't die for their man 746 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 4: to wish they would go to therapy with them if 747 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 4: something struggled. But none of the women I chose ever 748 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,399 Speaker 4: wanted to go because then they would have to face 749 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 4: their own They would have to face around stuff, accountability 750 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 4: to accountability. And I was choosing these women based on 751 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 4: my own wounds. And again doesn't mean they're right or wrong. 752 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 2: You were choosing them to fit the way you were 753 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 2: molded to be at that moment exactly. 754 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 4: And had I created, you know, had courageous conversations early on, 755 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 4: I probably would never have been with any of these women. 756 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 4: But I was more bonded by chemicals, by chemical pleasure 757 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 4: rather than spiritual connection because I wasn't having those conscious 758 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 4: conversations early on. There was intimacy and deep conversation, but 759 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 4: if they didn't like something that I was saying, this 760 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 4: is my vision or my value, I would kind of 761 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 4: be like changed to make sure they liked me. 762 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 3: So I was I'd be like, Okay. 763 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 4: I won't do this if you don't want to do that, 764 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 4: if that makes you uneasy, I'll just do what you 765 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 4: want me to do. Because I was more chemically bonded 766 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 4: rather than are we spiritually aligned? And that's why I 767 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 4: feel peace because there's better alignments and better agreements, and 768 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 4: if you don't have a greets, you're in disagreement. 769 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 3: That doesn't feel good. That's out of alignment. 770 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 5: You said earlier that a lot of your books and 771 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 5: what you do is based. 772 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: On the concept of healing. 773 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 5: Yes, right, And as we were just talking about like immigrants, 774 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 5: for example, you just said that earlier. 775 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: You're like, can you imagine. 776 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 5: What immigrants are going through and the trauma that they're facing, 777 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 5: and the and the healing that needs to happen right 778 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 5: in them? How did you come to the conclusion that 779 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 5: you needed to just heal like what was like, how 780 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 5: did that concept even come into your brain? 781 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: And I as first you think about like how do 782 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 1: I fix myself? You don't think like, oh, I got 783 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: to heal, right, that that healing is even a concept. 784 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,879 Speaker 4: Here's why, because all three of us are driven guys. Right, 785 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 4: we want to succeed. We want to be able to provide, 786 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 4: We want to be able to make money. We want 787 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 4: to be acknowledged for our skills and our talents. Right, 788 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,760 Speaker 4: you want to you want to do a good job, 789 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 4: and you don't want it to just be good. You 790 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 4: want it to be you know, the top. Right, you 791 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 4: want to you know your effort is acknowledged. Right, you 792 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 4: want to be We all but no, seriously, we all 793 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 4: want them though, we all we all want we all 794 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 4: want to be successful in whatever we're doing. 795 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,760 Speaker 3: However that looks like for us, whatever that that success 796 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 3: was like. 797 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 4: The challenge is when I accomp when I became a millionaire, 798 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 4: when I was on the USA national team for an 799 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 4: Olympic sport, when I had the beautiful girlfriend, when I 800 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 4: had you know, people recognizing me, I still didn't love 801 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 4: and accept myself. 802 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 3: So I was chasing the success, the money, the rewards, 803 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 3: the awards. 804 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 4: To feel good, and I still wasn't feeling good. Momentarily, 805 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 4: I was like, okay, like that feels good. They're acknowledging 806 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 4: me or whatever. I have money, but I still had 807 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 4: a lot of sadness. So I was like, what's the 808 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 4: point of making this money or succeeding or being on 809 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 4: magazine covers if I don't feel whole? And so for me, 810 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 4: as I was studying greatness from all these individuals and 811 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,439 Speaker 4: studying how to manifest and how to create the life 812 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 4: we want, I was realizing that without feeling whole, all 813 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 4: the success is nice, but it doesn't fulfill me because 814 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 4: I am still not whole. So what is the point 815 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 4: of the success or the awards or the girl whatever 816 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 4: if it still does not fulfill me? 817 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 1: And if you're not fulfilled, then you cannot enjoy those 818 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: achievements because. 819 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 3: Then you're still like I need more. Right, I have 820 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 3: this much money, it's not making me feel good. Let 821 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 3: me go for more. I still feel like I'm in scarcity. 822 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 4: Scarcity comes from a lack of wholeness out of alignment. 823 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 4: We live in an emotional scarcity. Our nervous system feels disaligned, 824 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 4: and so we feel stressed, anxious, not enough. I needed 825 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,919 Speaker 4: to be doing more. And it doesn't mean we can't 826 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 4: work really hard at our craft every day and we're 827 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 4: out of alignment or something. It doesn't mean we just 828 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 4: sit around and do nothing. I'm still a believer in 829 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 4: giving full energy, full effort, mastering your craft, being the 830 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 4: best you can be, excelling to be the top, whatever 831 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 4: that looks like for you. 832 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,479 Speaker 3: But not the top. 833 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 4: Were the results giving us the benefit I'll give you. 834 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 4: I'll give you a quick example that's recent for me 835 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 4: with this book launch that I had. I just got 836 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 4: married six weeks ago, right, and then I decided to 837 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 4: do a wedding experience and then a book launch and 838 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 4: a book tour within like the same month, which was crazy. 839 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 4: I don't recommend it. And I remember thinking to myself 840 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 4: during the book launch and the tour, I was like, 841 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm going to hit the New 842 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 4: York Times bestseller list as an author. That's kind of 843 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 4: like the mark of success, right, And I'd been on 844 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 4: it twice before with other books. 845 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 3: But I was like, did I do enough? Did I 846 00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 3: do enough marketing? Do I do enough touring? Did I 847 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:01,240 Speaker 3: do enough press? 848 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 4: All these different things, and I was literally at the 849 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,800 Speaker 4: place where I was just like, I did enough for 850 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 4: me to make an impact on people, and I did 851 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 4: the best I could with the season of life I'm 852 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,919 Speaker 4: at and it's not worth getting sick over gaining weight, 853 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 4: over feeling exhausted. 854 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 3: It's not worth that for some list. And I was like, 855 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 3: I'm at peace, even if if it happens or not. 856 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 4: And if you hit the list in two books before 857 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 4: and then you don't hit it again, Normally I'd be like, ah, 858 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 4: I need to do it, because how is I gonna 859 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 4: look what if no one shows up, or what if 860 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 4: no one comes to my tour? What if I'm not 861 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 4: on the list and I have to promote I didn't 862 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 4: make it. 863 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 3: What's that going to make me feel? 864 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 4: But I was set so much peace, Like the day 865 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 4: of the list coming out, I was like, I don't 866 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 4: actually think it's gonna happen, and I'm okay with it. 867 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 4: And it happened, and I was like that's cool too, 868 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 4: And I was like, the awards are nice, but making 869 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 4: an impact and doing something that I feel is meaningful 870 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 4: for me, like I grew in the process of creating 871 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 4: this art for me, and that is the real win 872 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 4: at this level. So the whole key to manifesting what 873 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 4: you want, the whole key to having the ultimate success 874 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 4: is creating a sense of wholeness and alignment within you. First, 875 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 4: not needing the thing to fulfill me and feeling better 876 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 4: about me, but feeling good about me because I'm in 877 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 4: the act. And you guys have probably heard this a 878 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 4: million times. It's like, it's the daily pursuit, not the 879 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 4: results that should bring us joy. Now, the success is 880 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,879 Speaker 4: always a nice bonus. The list, the number one show, 881 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 4: the money is a great bonus because it's a sense 882 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 4: of acknowledgment in your industry. But as you guys know, 883 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 4: like this, I'm adjacent to the entertainment world. I'm like 884 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 4: in it, but not really. It's like there's got to 885 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 4: be a lot of pressure for actors and producers and 886 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 4: writers of like. Oh, but it's so subjective and it's 887 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 4: like a little committee with the New York Times list. 888 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 4: It's a committee of people I don't know who they are, 889 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,800 Speaker 4: who knows how they actually decide. 890 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a weird numbers game in a certain 891 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,919 Speaker 2: amount of time, exactly. It's not even like the life 892 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:10,399 Speaker 2: of the Book. 893 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 3: It's not just like that week. 894 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that week, You're like, well, what if like the 895 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 2: press was delayed, what if like that article didn't go wide? 896 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 2: You know, like there's so much stuff that really plays 897 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 2: a factor and with how you're performing that week anyways, 898 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, a lot of stuff was coming up 899 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 2: as you were bringing up and speaking of your book. 900 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 2: I want to actually talk a bit about your book 901 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 2: because I know it definitely wasn't easy for me to 902 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 2: make a book, and I will say this guy's had multiples. 903 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,879 Speaker 1: What I really want to do is really break down 904 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 1: what this book really means. You know. 905 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,800 Speaker 2: This is part one of the two part conversation with 906 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 2: my brother Lewis House. So this is part one, see 907 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 2: you guys are part two. This is Those Amigos and 908 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 2: my brother An. I'm Freddie Rodriguez and I'll see you 909 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 2: in the next one. 910 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 5: Those Amigos production from WV Sound and iHeartMedia's Michael through 911 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 5: That podcast network, hosted by Me, Freddie Rodriguez and Wilmer Valdorama. 912 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 2: Those Amigos is produced by Aaron Burlson and Sophie Spencer Zabos. 913 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:17,320 Speaker 5: Our executive producers are Wilmer Valderama, Freddie Rodriguez, Aaron Burlson, 914 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 5: and Leo Klem at WV Sound. 915 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 2: This episode was shot and edited it by Ryan Posts 916 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 2: and mixed by Sean Tracy and features original music by 917 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 2: Madison Devenport and Halo boy Our. 918 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 5: Cover art photography is by David Avalos and designed by 919 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 5: Deny Holtzklau And. 920 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 2: Thank you for being at Third Amigo today. 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