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Speaker 1: Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show Tuesday edition. Buck

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Speaker 1: is out until Tuesday of next week on vacation with

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Speaker 1: his family. So you got me Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

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Speaker 1: Let's haang, have a good time. Let me give you

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Speaker 1: a good idea of where we're headed. Riley Gaines is

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Speaker 1: going to join us at one o'clock Eastern, about an

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Speaker 1: hour from now. Yesterday we had a conversation. Many of

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Speaker 1: you deluged us with reactions about the gender gap, and

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Speaker 1: in particular the gender gap among young people, and I

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Speaker 1: was impressed by how many young listeners called in and

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Speaker 1: cited Riley Gaines as a particularly powerful voice of a

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Speaker 1: younger generation that should be speaking out more and used

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Speaker 1: more in the Republican Party politic platform to allow her

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Speaker 1: to speak to young women who are overwhelmingly voting for

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris according to data. And so Riley's a friend.

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Speaker 1: I got her hired at OutKick because I saw the

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Speaker 1: work that she was doing and I was so impressed

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Speaker 1: by it. So she will be with us at one

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Speaker 1: at two. A lot of attention, as you can well imagine,

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Speaker 1: certainly on the presidential race itself between Kamala and Trump.

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Speaker 1: But don't neglect what's going on right now in the

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Speaker 1: Senate battlegrounds out there. In particular, Republicans are going to

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Speaker 1: pick up a seat in West Virginia that makes it

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Speaker 1: fifty to fifty. Presuming Ted Cruz and Rick Scott win

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Speaker 1: in Texas and Florida, respectively, as I believe they will,

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Speaker 1: that would make it a fifty to fifty Senate. In

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Speaker 1: a fifty to fifty Senate, the vice president breaks ties.

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Speaker 1: Kamala has been the vice president breaking many ties in

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Speaker 1: the Senate in the first term of Joe Biden. But

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Speaker 1: if the state of Montana, and look, there are many

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Speaker 1: other states as well, Pennsylvania with McCormick, Nevada with Brown,

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Speaker 1: Arizona with Carrie Lake. There are a lot of different

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Speaker 1: states out there where a fifty first vote could emerge.

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Speaker 1: But right now, Montana, with what Tim Sheehey is doing,

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Speaker 1: it looks like Montana's all of you listening to me.

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Speaker 1: Right now, you guys have the power to take back

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Speaker 1: control of the Senate. So it's very important what happens

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Speaker 1: in the House. We're going to talk to Speaker of

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Speaker 1: But Senate control is out there. Bernie Marino hugely important

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Speaker 1: Senate race in Ohio. There are many different seats that

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Speaker 1: could be won, but right now Montana, Tim Sheehy is

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Speaker 1: winning that race. According to the polls. Trump is obviously

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Speaker 1: Bozeman a few weeks ago helping the campaign for Tim Sheehy.

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Speaker 1: It looks like Republicans are in very good shape to

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Speaker 1: take back control of the Senate. That would matter to

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Speaker 1: a large extent regardless of who the President of the

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Speaker 1: United States is. Either it would check Kamala Harris, and

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Speaker 1: we're going to get into Kamala. Kamala now is in

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Speaker 1: favor of a border wall that came out this morning

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Speaker 1: just emblematic of how dishonest her campaign is. And we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about that. But Riley Gains Tim Shehee

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Speaker 1: are our guest today. But I want to start with

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Speaker 1: you out there know my background, but in the event

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Speaker 1: that you don't, I came in writing about when I

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Speaker 1: was a young lawyer. Back in two thousand and four.

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Speaker 1: I was twenty five years old. I was a litigator.

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Speaker 1: I was working in the United States Virgin Islands. At yes,

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Speaker 1: believe it or not, I was like the Tom Cruise

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Speaker 1: But I got married, moved to the US Virgin Islands.

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Speaker 1: here in Tennessee. But I had something that's actually very

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Speaker 1: but I certainly wouldn't have been an office litigator, which

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Speaker 1: So my escape was I started writing about sports. That

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Speaker 1: long ago. In twenty eleven, thirteen years ago, I was

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Speaker 1: I've been working so hard to try to make a

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Speaker 1: radio at that time. That's how I started doing radios.

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Speaker 1: Found out I was decent at it. But at that time,

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Speaker 1: twenty eleven, I get fired as a writer. I have

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Speaker 1: to me since then, and I had a oh no moment.

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Speaker 1: and I came to see how dishonest still was, but

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Speaker 1: I also came to see the power that Facebook, that Twitter,

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Speaker 1: on six tonight more Jesse, Yeah, in August of twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Then we had him on again in October of twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: I had him on twice. Each time we wrote about

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Speaker 1: it at OutKick, Facebook destroyed our site traffic because we

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Speaker 1: were writing positive stories about Donald Trump on a sports site,

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Speaker 1: and I testified under oath to Jim Jordan in Congress

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Speaker 1: about this. In twenty twenty one, our site traffic collapsed.

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Speaker 1: Facebook has the power of almost at that time every

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Speaker 1: one reason I sold OutKick in twenty twenty one to

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Speaker 1: close to one hundred employees now. That it's owned by

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Speaker 1: Foxcourage you guys to check it out occasionally. I don't

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Speaker 1: I understand this issue better than almost anybody who works

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Speaker 1: looking Jim Jordan, to his credit, has been investigating big

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Speaker 1: media collusion, censorship, and tech. This is important now COVID.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to get into COVID. They clearly rigged what

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Speaker 1: much and why it's so significant. The FBI warned us

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Speaker 1: It's since been made clear the reporting was not Russian disinformation,

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Speaker 1: and in retrospect, we shouldn't have demoted the story. We've

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Speaker 1: happen again. For instance, we no longer temporarily demote things

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Speaker 1: time this opening of this show unpacking why this matters

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Speaker 1: so much. In December of twenty nineteen, the FBI seized

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden's laptop December of twenty nineteen. In October of

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Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden laptop. All of the reporting there was true.

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Speaker 1: The FBI knew because they had confirmed that laptop was real.

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Speaker 1: They knew that everything in the New York Post story

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Speaker 1: this story when it actually went public. Who rigged the

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Speaker 1: This is the biggest election interference in the history of

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Speaker 1: century and in the Trump era by far. They knew

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Speaker 1: This is so incredibly important.

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Speaker 1: So incredibly important, And I'm glad you called in, and

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Speaker 1: of anybody. Okay, I've done this as part of my

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Speaker 3: But but Clay, understand how pervasive this. So we had

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Speaker 1: They to turn you into Russian stooges. That's very important.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know, our ranking members of the committee

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Speaker 3: It was the intelligence community that issued the letter thing

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Speaker 3: There ties into the Democrat elected members of the Senate,

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Speaker 3: You don't need to consider it. Just understand how pervasive

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Speaker 1: Why do you think Zuckerberg wrote his letter? Now?

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Speaker 3: I guess they have the goods one him.

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Speaker 1: God, I mean, I mean, it's a good question, right.

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Speaker 3: It's it's just, you know, good work by Jim Jordan

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Speaker 1: Some people are saying they think it's because Trump's gonna

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Speaker 1: Obviously we didn't even focus but a lot of this,

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Speaker 1: that's a huge story. That standalone is a huge story.

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Speaker 1: But the rig job here, the FBI and or other

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Speaker 1: honestly as the story it should have been.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so twenty twenty, I've been saying that Russia and

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Speaker 3: a huge story. This is just the most grotesque interferencing

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Speaker 3: mean again, they they're they're getting away with it because

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Speaker 1: Sener Ron Johnson, thank you for fighting the good fight

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Speaker 3: Well, thanks for highlighting it.

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Speaker 1: We head out now to the great state of Montana,

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Speaker 1: where Tim Sheehey is on his way to beating John

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Speaker 1: Tester and helping to take control of the Senate for Republicans.

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Speaker 1: He is leading, but I'm sure that the battleground state

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Speaker 1: is still going to be quite a battle. John Tester

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Speaker 1: will not go down without a fight, and before he

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Speaker 1: even says it, I bet Chuck Schumer is going to

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Speaker 1: be pouring maybe even one hundred million or more. I

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Speaker 1: bet hundreds of millions into this race because it may

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Speaker 1: well determine control of the United States Senate. Am I

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Speaker 1: right about that future Senator? She he is Chuck Schumer

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Speaker 1: spending money unlike we've ever seen in the history of

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Speaker 1: the state of Montana. Right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this will be the most expensive election in American

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Speaker 4: history per vote, Clay. So it will be for you know,

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Speaker 4: call it six hundred thousand votes that turn out here

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Speaker 4: in Montana. And really, you know, for for a Senate

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Speaker 4: election like ours, let's say it two hundred to thirty

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Speaker 4: thousand decided, you know, two hundred and fifty to three

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Speaker 4: hundred million dollars will be spent in this state for

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Speaker 4: thirty thousand swing votes. So this will be the most

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Speaker 4: expensive election in American history per vote. And as you

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Speaker 4: well know, Clay, it's not our side setting that spending pace.

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Speaker 4: It is Chuck Schumer, George Soros, and the dark money

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Speaker 4: groups that make John Tester the number one recipient of

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Speaker 4: lobbyist money in the entire nation. He gets more money

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Speaker 4: from these out of state dark money groups than any

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Speaker 4: other candidate any other candidate the whole country Congress, Senate,

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Speaker 4: gubernatorial or presidential he's bought and paid for.

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Speaker 1: How nasty has it been for you, a guy who

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Speaker 1: was not in politics before. Has it been nastier than

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Speaker 1: you expected? I know, we still got seventy days roughly

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Speaker 1: till election day, so the nastiness can still get dialed up.

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Speaker 1: But you were with us at the RNC. You're a

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Speaker 1: normal guy. You're walking around with your wife, You've got

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Speaker 1: a family. What has it been like for you to

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Speaker 1: suddenly find yourself in the midst of really a race

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Speaker 1: that may well determine Senate control. What's it been like

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Speaker 1: for you personally?

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Speaker 4: Well, obviously it's a challenge, no maoutter which way you

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Speaker 4: slice it. You know, my wife and I are both

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Speaker 4: combat veterans. She's a Marine Corps officer, veteran of Afghanistan.

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Speaker 4: I'm a Steel officer, a veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan.

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Speaker 4: Of course, as many folks remember, yesterday it was the

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Speaker 4: three year anniversary of our disastrous pull out of Kavl

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Speaker 4: and the bombing at Abbygate, which of course brought all

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Speaker 4: this into focus and caused me to run in the

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Speaker 4: first place. So although the personal attacks and the attacks

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Speaker 4: of my business that they've savaged. My business, Bridger Aerospace

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Speaker 4: at Great Montana success story found from scratch of my barn,

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Speaker 4: created hundreds of jobs. They've just been assaulting that big us,

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Speaker 4: from getting former employees to sue us, to you know,

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Speaker 4: going after our stock, to you know, just going after

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Speaker 4: our employees and our contracts and everything. It's been tough

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Speaker 4: to watch the pain that this has caused other people.

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Speaker 4: I mean personally, my wife and I you know, we're

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Speaker 4: war betters. I used to get shot at by real

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Speaker 4: both for a living, not fake liberal TV bullets. So

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Speaker 4: you know, at the end of the day, the impact

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Speaker 4: on me and my family. We signed up for this,

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Speaker 4: but it's been really really disgusting to see how they've

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Speaker 4: gone after our employees. Our businesses are charitable, giving and

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Speaker 4: just wags this smear campaign that is just so disappointing

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Speaker 4: to see coming from someone who you know, he's been

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Speaker 4: in office for thirty years State Senate US Senate John

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Speaker 4: Testers should have a lot to talk about to Montana,

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Speaker 4: about all the good he's done in the decades he's

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Speaker 4: been in office, But instead he's spending all of Chuck

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Speaker 4: Schumer's money just spreading lies and negative ads out there,

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Speaker 4: and frankly, it's backfiring because their latest polls show us up,

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Speaker 4: you know, five points, six points. You know, we're not

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Speaker 4: going to trust those polls. We've got to run like

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Speaker 4: we're behind all the way to election day, and we will.

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Speaker 4: But the messaging is clear that the Democrats are scared.

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Speaker 4: They don't have a policy platform to run on, so

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Speaker 4: they got to run on character assassination and it's back

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Speaker 4: throwing on them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is really important for people out there who

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Speaker 1: may not be paying attention. Chuck Schumer is not hiding

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Speaker 1: what he wants to do if Kamala Harris somehow gets

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Speaker 1: into office and if he has the majority or a

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Speaker 1: tie breaking vote that would allow him to have a

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Speaker 1: default majority. They're talking about doing away with the filibuster.

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Speaker 1: That would mean that basically we have hugely wide swings.

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Speaker 1: They may talk about redoing the Supreme Court, potentially adding

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Speaker 1: Senate seats for a place like the District of Columbia,

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Speaker 1: which would give them two Senate seats additional every election cycle.

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Speaker 1: I know Montana's it matters a great deal to them

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Speaker 1: who represents them. But if you're listening to us right now. Nationwide,

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Speaker 1: your race could be the bulwark that keeps things from

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Speaker 1: falling completely into insanity in the event that Democrats manage

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Speaker 1: to win the twenty twenty four presidential race.

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Speaker 4: Now you hit the head of a nail on the head, Clay,

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Speaker 4: and thank you for mentioning that, because that's going unfortunately

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Speaker 4: under the radar for a lot of folks, is that

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Speaker 4: this is not just a Montana US Senate se This

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Speaker 4: Senate see will determine control of the Senate and frankly,

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Speaker 4: the structure of our constitutional republic for a generation, because,

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Speaker 4: just like you said, Chuck Schumer has been very vocal

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Speaker 4: about his planning is not hidden it. He wants to

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Speaker 4: eliminate the legislative philibuster, add two more states, DC and

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Speaker 4: Puerto Rico. That's four more Democrat centers, and once they

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Speaker 4: have that permanent majority built in, they want to expand

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Speaker 4: the Supreme Court and dilute the conservative influence of that court.

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Speaker 4: That right there spells basically the end or constitutional checks

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Speaker 4: and balances. And when Donald Trump wins this fall, he

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Speaker 4: needs a Senate to get anything done. From Justice appointees

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Speaker 4: to the Cabinet nominees to not getting impeached. And if

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Speaker 4: he doesn't win, God forbid, and we have a Harris

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Speaker 4: Waltz big government socialist agenda. The Senate is the firewall

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Speaker 4: to stop all that craziness from happening. That's the firewall

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Speaker 4: to stop another five trillion dollars of taxes throwing on

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Speaker 4: us in the first year. That's a firewall for sixteen

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Speaker 4: percent inflation and printing money. It's a firewall against more

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Speaker 4: crazy foreign policy misadventures that are going to send our

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Speaker 4: young men women overseas. And it's a firewall against common

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Speaker 4: sense things like boys and girls sports. So we have

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Speaker 4: to win the Senate either way, whether we win the

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Speaker 4: White House or not, we have to have the US

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Speaker 4: Senate to keep our constitution republic intact.

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Speaker 1: John Tester right now, who you're running against, is trying

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Speaker 1: to claim that he is a moderate. He's doing we

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Speaker 1: were just talking about Kamala Harris saying, oh, we need

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Speaker 1: a border wall. All of a sudden, he's trying to

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Speaker 1: pretend that he's an independent voice and not a rubber

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Speaker 1: stamp for the Democrat majority, which he has been with

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Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer. For people out there that are seeing these

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Speaker 1: ads in Montana and might be thinking to themselves, well,

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Speaker 1: of course I'm voting Trump because I think Trump is winning.

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Speaker 1: I've seen the polling by twenty five or more points

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Speaker 1: right now in Montana. It's not going to be close.

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Speaker 1: But they say, oh, I'll vote for Tester. He's independent.

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Speaker 1: I'm independent. Montana's filled with a lot of independent people.

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Speaker 1: How much a why? How much of a why is

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Speaker 1: it that John Tester is an independent voice?

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Speaker 4: I mean that's what we call him, two faced Tester.

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Speaker 4: He goes to d C votes with Elizabeth Warren and

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Speaker 4: Chuck Schumer, Kamala Harris, and Joe Biden every single time.

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Speaker 4: Then he comes home to Montana and puts on, you know,

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Speaker 4: his Carhart jacket, and all of a sudden he's a

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Speaker 4: Bible thumping, gun toting border security Republican. It's literally laughable.

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Speaker 3: But unfortunately, as you said.

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Speaker 4: He's very talented at it. And to be honest, if

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Speaker 4: you've got a shred of acting talent and two hundred

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Speaker 4: million dollars of Democrat dark money ad spend, you can

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Speaker 4: convince a lot of people of a lot of things.

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Speaker 4: And that's exactly how he survived for thirty years in

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Speaker 4: our political landscape in the state is having a very

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Speaker 4: well funded charade that encourages you know, independent mind in

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Speaker 4: Montana's to consider him as an independent voice, which, as

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Speaker 4: you correctly pointed out, he absolutely is not. Over the

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Speaker 4: past three and a half years, Kamala Harris has broken

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Speaker 4: more ties than any other vices in the history of

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Speaker 4: our country in the US Senate, and that is due

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Speaker 4: to one person, John Tester, because Kierson, Cinema and Joe

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Speaker 4: Matchin had the moral courage to stand up whenever things

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Speaker 4: were getting really crazy and say, listen, I may be

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Speaker 4: a Democrat, but this is just crazy. I'm not going

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Speaker 4: to support this, whereas obviously, you know, John Tester never

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Speaker 4: once took the time to do that, never once stood

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Speaker 4: up and said I'm not going to stand for this craziness.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned you and your wife are both military veterans.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday was the anniversary unfortunately the thirteen people who lost

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Speaker 1: their lives as part of the disgraceful exit from Afghanistan.

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Speaker 1: As a veteran, when three years have passed since that

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Speaker 1: happened to you, does that disqualify being involved in that alone?

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Speaker 1: Disqualify Kamala Harris from being Commander in chief.

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Speaker 4: Well, listen, I mean, disqualifying is up to the voters.

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Speaker 4: But for me personally as a veteran, absolutely, I mean

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't fall into a paper bag. I mean what

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Speaker 4: Harris and Biden did was such a disgrace not just

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Speaker 4: to our nation and to our allies, but to the

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Speaker 4: entire history of our enforcement. I mean, how do you

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Speaker 4: tell the generation Like my wife and I we joined

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Speaker 4: up right after nine to eleven, and we knew for

659
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Speaker 4: a fact we were going to war. Wasn't a question.

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Speaker 4: We weren't joining for free college or to see the world.

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Speaker 4: We were joining knowing for a fact we were going

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Speaker 4: the desert. We were going to war, and we answer

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Speaker 4: our nation's call. And then after multiple combat deformants, losing friends,

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Speaker 4: my brothers, my brothers were friends, were veterans, her best friends,

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Speaker 4: I mean, our whole friend circle, as is typically of

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Speaker 4: the case these days, were all combat veterans. And to

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Speaker 4: see years of our lives, sacrifice, lives of our friends,

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Speaker 4: friends who lost legs, who lost arms, It didn't come

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Speaker 4: home at all. To see that just washed away into

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Speaker 4: this day. No accountability, No secretaries have been fired, no

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Speaker 4: jails have been fired, nothing has happened, and yet the

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Speaker 4: Taliban are conducting parades with eighty billion dollars of our equipment,

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Speaker 4: They're flying our helicopters around, they're executing our allies. It's

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Speaker 4: a disgrace and she should be held accountable. She will

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Speaker 4: be held accountable with the ballot box this fall. But

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00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 4: we've got to go down the line. There's a lot

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00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 4: of other people buried in happy Roxy. We've got to

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Speaker 4: get out of there because they've led America into a

679
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 4: corner and we need a new generation and leaders have

680
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Speaker 4: saved this country.

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Speaker 1: Talking to Tim Sheehey, last question for you. First of all,

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Speaker 1: how can people go to help you? You can give

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Speaker 1: your website out. But second part of this, there's been

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Speaker 1: a mass movement in much of the country since twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty COVID happened. I think Montana has been made over.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you can tell me better than anybody. Almost has

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Speaker 1: been made over with new residents to a degree, given

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Speaker 1: the population, the likes of which we aren't seeing very

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Speaker 1: many places. Has that made Montana redder? Based on your analysis,

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Speaker 1: how would you assess the COVID impact on this Senate

691
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Speaker 1: race for the first time since COVID that's a great.

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Speaker 4: Question, Clay, And obviously every state's been affected differently. Montana

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Speaker 4: has gotten redder. Bottom line is the cows have come home,

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Speaker 4: and call them cows California, Oregon, Washington. The folks fleeing

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Speaker 4: the crazy leftist regimes in those states that have no

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Speaker 4: common sense, that are not putting their citizens first. The

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Speaker 4: conservatives in those state of which there are many, as

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Speaker 4: you well know, you know, Seattle and Portland and San

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Speaker 4: Francisco take the statewide politics left. The truth is in

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Speaker 4: the rural counties and those states, they are conservative. Those

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Speaker 4: folks are fleeing. We call them political refugees. Is saying

702
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Speaker 4: I'm done with this craziness, and I'm coming to Montana.

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Speaker 4: I'm coming to Idaho. I'm going to live where freedom

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Speaker 4: is still terraced. And those people about two to one

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Speaker 4: two and a half to one week, we estimate in

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Speaker 4: a polling that have come into our state, our political

707
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Speaker 4: refugees fleeing the crazy policies of the deep blue states

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Speaker 4: that's coming from. So we are seeing an uptick. The

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Speaker 4: reddest elections in Montana have been our last two elections

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Speaker 4: and this will be no different. Montana's have made it

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Speaker 4: very very clear they want freedom and liberty put first.

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Speaker 4: They want our constitution as our top priority for our

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Speaker 4: elected officials, and they want to save this country.

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Speaker 1: Tim sheehe. How can people support you, either from Montana

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Speaker 1: or elsewhere. If they're listening to you and they say,

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Speaker 1: I like the cut of this guy's jib, I want

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Speaker 1: to help give him some money.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, timfremt dot com. I've never run for any

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Speaker 4: officer for in my life, not even a student council.

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Speaker 4: There's city council. This is the first time I've run

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Speaker 4: because I'm just I'm so worried about the future of

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Speaker 4: this country. Ten for MT dot com. Ten foor mt

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Speaker 4: dot com. If you're from Montana, falls on socials, get

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Speaker 4: the word out. If you're not from Montana, the best

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Speaker 4: thing you do is help us out. Donate five bucks,

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Speaker 4: ten bucks, fifty bucks, whatever it is. If you're in

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Speaker 4: a deep blue state, your money's not going to do

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Speaker 4: any good there Senate to Montana. If you're in a

729
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 4: deep red state, you've proverly already won Senate. Here, this

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Speaker 4: is the most important political race in the nation behind

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Speaker 4: the White House. We've got to win this race because

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Speaker 4: we got to flip the Senate.

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Speaker 1: Amen, timshhe timfour mt dot com. Let me know how

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Speaker 1: we can help. Buck Andhey are happy to come up

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Speaker 1: and do anything we can to help make sure you

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Speaker 1: get elected.

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Speaker 3: All r Let's take it happen.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, Clay, appreciate you. I'm not kidding. That is a

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Speaker 1: monstrously important Senate race that a lot of you probably

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Speaker 1: are paying attention, but I think a lot of you

741
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Speaker 1: probably not. It will, I believe control who wins the

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Speaker 1: United States Senate what happens in Montana. There are other

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Speaker 1: races out there that are seismically important as well. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk a bit about those. Will take some more of

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Speaker 1: your calls, but in the meantime, a reminder a new

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Speaker 1: movie rolling out in theaters this weekend, Reagan, starring Dennis

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Speaker 1: Quaid as the President himself, the story of Ronald Reagan's

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Speaker 1: life and his second career as a governor, then president,

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Speaker 1: and a man determined to remove Communism from Europe and

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Speaker 1: reduce its impact the world over. Producers time the movie

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Speaker 1: just right when so many Americans are contemplating what a

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Speaker 1: great president is capable of and what their motivations are.

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Speaker 1: buffs like me, for fans of President Reagan out there.

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Speaker 2: Clay Travison, Buck Sexton, Mike drops that never sounded so good.

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Speaker 2: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you

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Speaker 1: Join now by my friend Riley Gaines, who is down

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta speaking. We'll get into what she is speaking about.

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Speaker 1: But Riley, yesterday I was talking about how now Trump

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Speaker 1: needs to do better with young female voters. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you saw the graphic that I shared where

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Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty nine year old men are going to

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Speaker 1: vote for Trump by double digits, but eighteen to twenty

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Speaker 1: nine year old women are right now, potentially by a

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Speaker 1: margin of nearly thirty eight percent, going to vote for Kamalin.

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Speaker 1: And I said, Okay, who is the best people out

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Speaker 1: there that could speak to this audience? And we got

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Speaker 1: multiple calls saying, I love Riley Gaines, She's doing a

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Speaker 1: really good job. She should be used more. And I

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Speaker 1: know you spoke at the Trump RFK Junior rally out

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Speaker 1: in Arizona, but I said, we got to get Riley

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Speaker 1: on to talk. So congratulations on the impact you're already having.

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Speaker 1: But what can we do to make young women see

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Speaker 1: how fundamentally dishonest A lot of what Kamala is selling

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Speaker 1: is well, gosh.

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Speaker 5: First of all, it's a joy to be on with you, Klay,

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Speaker 5: So thank you very much. And yeah, this is coming

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Speaker 5: off the hills you mentioned being funnally fundamentally dishonest. I mean,

784
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Speaker 5: this is coming off the hill the heels of today.

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Speaker 5: Just today we're seeing Kamala Harris now pledging millions, hundreds

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Speaker 5: of millions of dollars to building up the wall, the

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Speaker 5: blurder to which she called Unamerican under President Trump. And

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Speaker 5: so look, uh, what we need to see, uh, from

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Speaker 5: from the conservative side, from from Trump's sergus, what you

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Speaker 5: see being pushed out to win over younger women, who,

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Speaker 5: of course tend to be more empathetic, They tend to

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00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 5: be more emotionally driven, they tend to be more apologetic.

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Speaker 5: Trump spends a lot of his time talking about foreign policy,

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Speaker 5: which which is certainly an advantage over the Biden Harris,

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Speaker 5: Kamala Harris, especially that administration. But it's not doing a

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Speaker 5: whole lot. I believe to win over women, he needs

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Speaker 5: to talk about how children are being impacted by progressive policies,

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Speaker 5: whether that's with education, whether that's the gender ideology movement,

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Speaker 5: whether that's putting men in women's locker rooms. What again,

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Speaker 5: that's an appeal to moms, the suburban woman. You don't

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Speaker 5: mess with her kids. Nothing scarier than a mad mama bear.

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00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 5: We need to invoke that. That's what we need to see.

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Speaker 5: I've been super enthusiastic to see Donald Trump going on

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Speaker 5: He just went on Sean Ryan's show. That interview was awesome.

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Speaker 5: He's been on Coeo Vaughn, he just did Aiden Ross.

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Speaker 5: I think, largely in part Baron Trump has been a

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Speaker 5: big proponent of getting him on these streaming networks, these

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00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 5: podcasts he's on TikTok now, all really wonderful things to

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Speaker 5: getting in front of younger voters, more specifically I think

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Speaker 5: young women.

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Speaker 1: So this is interesting because you live in Nashville where

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Speaker 1: I am, and you went to an SEC school at Kentucky.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I think we take calls and people say, like

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Speaker 1: we had a caller the other day he said, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm in Alabama. Most of the people that I see

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Speaker 1: young or voting Trump. That can be true in red states.

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Speaker 1: What happens though, when you're out traveling. You were just

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Speaker 1: out in Arizona. It's a toss up state. Certainly, there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of people out there that are probably

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Speaker 1: open into the arguments you make. What would you tell

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Speaker 1: because we got a lot of people out there listening

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Speaker 1: their moms and their grandmas, and maybe they're voting for Trump,

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Speaker 1: but they're trying to think about how to talk to

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Speaker 1: their teenage daughters, to their early twenty something daughters. That's

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Speaker 1: people in your wheelhouse. What would you tell those moms

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Speaker 1: and grandma's listening to us right now, how do they

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Speaker 1: have a conversation with their daughter who maybe is almost

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Speaker 1: totally focused. And I know you see this a lot

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Speaker 1: too on the abortion issue, to the exclusion of almost

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Speaker 1: everything else when it comes to how they vote. How

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Speaker 1: would you tell them to approach and have a conversation

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Speaker 1: with their daughters and their granddaughters.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, we saw this again. It's the DNC. Virtually

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Speaker 5: every single speaker, even speakers where it didn't make sense.

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Speaker 5: You had Andy Bsher up there. He spent almost his

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Speaker 5: entire time talking about abortion and health care freedom and

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Speaker 5: reproductive rights, which doesn't make much sense to me. He

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Speaker 5: could have talked about a plethora of other things, like education, whatever.

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Speaker 5: Besides the point what, I think I've spent a lot

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Speaker 5: of time trying to really understand the other side, understand

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Speaker 5: what's effective in talking to people my age, again, more

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Speaker 5: specifically young women, what works and so what I think

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Speaker 5: again I've seen in toss of states. You're right, living

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Speaker 5: in Nashville, going to an SEC school. I think people

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Speaker 5: are also becoming more bold and plainly saying, look, I'm

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Speaker 5: supporting President Trump. Yeah, but I think what we need

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Speaker 5: to see what Again, I've seen the effective is the

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Speaker 5: simple statement, how can you defend what you cannot define?

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Speaker 5: The Democrats they claim to be the party of and

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Speaker 5: for a women, Yet they can't even define what a

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Speaker 5: woman is, So how in the world can you claim

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Speaker 5: to defend it? I think that's an effective way of

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Speaker 5: getting the point across. They don't really stand with you. Again,

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Speaker 5: they speak of healthcare freedom, where was that in twenty twenty? No,

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Speaker 5: the Democratic Party, they were the tyrants who fired healthcare workers,

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Speaker 5: they fired school teachers, active duty military members if they

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Speaker 5: didn't conform to their autocratic mandates. Reminding people of that.

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Speaker 5: You know, the other side. They speak of compassion, they

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Speaker 5: speak of empathy, they speak of inclusion. Well, is it

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Speaker 5: inclusive to ask young girls to smile and step aside

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Speaker 5: and allow men onto their podiums? And is it compassionate

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Speaker 5: to ask young girls to go into a locker room

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Speaker 5: and undress next to fully grown, fully impact, six foot

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Speaker 5: four men. No, that's not what compassion is. And so

865
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Speaker 5: almost flipping it back on them using their language again

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Speaker 5: admittedly what the left does, well, I think we can

867
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Speaker 5: take a page from their playbook on this.

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Speaker 1: You competed against Leah Thomas, a as you said, six

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Speaker 1: foot four man. You're also married. I think your fabulous husband,

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Speaker 1: Louis is about six foot four and a male swimmer

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Speaker 1: from the University of Kentucky. But in Pennsylvania this is

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Speaker 1: really important because the race may well come down to Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: So I want you Pennsylvanians listening really close to this.

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Speaker 1: But certainly it applies everywhere. University of Pennsylvania allowed Leah

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Speaker 1: Thomas to flip and go from the men's swim team

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Speaker 1: to the women's swim team and win an NCAA championship.

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Speaker 1: The Governor of Pennsylvania, Josh Shapiro, endorsed this and said

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Speaker 1: it should be completely acceptable in the state of Pennsylvania. Now,

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Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of Pennsylvanians out there listening

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Speaker 1: to this, but for people who have not experienced your

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Speaker 1: exact story, it directly connects with probably the biggest battleground

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Speaker 1: in this entire country right now, where the University of

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Speaker 1: Pennsylvania is and where Democrats have endorsed what happened to you.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, yeah, we've seen Governor Shapiro. He's posted on ex

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Speaker 5: social media many times saying trans women are women. I'm

886
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Speaker 5: fully behind this and what he is saying he is behind.

887
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Speaker 5: Let me be very clear, is sexual harassment. To be

888
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Speaker 5: totally frank with you, and I correctly label it as

889
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Speaker 5: sexual harassment because we did not give our consent to

890
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Speaker 5: be in that locker room. No one asks for our

891
00:48:55,520 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 5: consent to be fully unclosed, exploited, and violated while a

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Speaker 5: man was simultaneously undressing himself in front of us. I mean,

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Speaker 5: think about that. Not to mention, of course, the unfair

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Speaker 5: competition side of it, which anyone with any amount of

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Speaker 5: brain activity, at least any amount of sanity would be

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Speaker 5: able to see. I mean, the unfairness in that allowing

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Speaker 5: a mediocre nonetheless a Division one swimmer, Division one mail swimmer,

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Speaker 5: but mediocre in his rightful category, to switch over to

899
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Speaker 5: the women's team after three years of competing on the

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Speaker 5: men's team, to then dominate. Anyone would see the problem

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Speaker 5: with that. Not to mention UPEN. If we're going to

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Speaker 5: be talking about UPEN and the policies that they're pushing there.

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Speaker 5: We saw what they did just I mean just about

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905
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Speaker 5: we saw with what's going on in the Middle East,

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Speaker 5: how the university responded there really really insane stuff. It's

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Speaker 5: almost as if, speaking I guess about the protests, we

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Speaker 5: saw this Frankenstein scenario where these universities have created these monsters,

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Speaker 5: and the monsters were turning around and destroying the very

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Speaker 5: thing that created it.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Riley Gaines. You're down in Georgia right now.

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Speaker 1: I want you to tell us what you're doing there.

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Speaker 1: Certainly I encourage you guys to go follow Riley on

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Speaker 1: social media and listen to her show. She does an

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Speaker 1: outkickshow among many other things. But Riley, tell us what

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Speaker 1: you're doing in Georgia. But also, have you been, thanks

917
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Speaker 1: to what I think is your courage and your bravery,

918
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Speaker 1: have you been seeing as you're now traveling the country,

919
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Speaker 1: more and more people, both women and men, being willing

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Speaker 1: to stand up and call out how ridiculous it is

921
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Speaker 1: to allow men to compete in women's sports. Are you

922
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Speaker 1: seeing that tide personally in your day to day experience

923
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Speaker 1: as you've been fighting this battle, begin to change To.

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Speaker 5: Answer the latter first, absolutely, people they're seeing again the severity,

925
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Speaker 5: the trajectory of where we're going. Because for so long

926
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Speaker 5: we thought to ourselves this is absurd, it won't really happen,

927
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Speaker 5: it's just a one off. This is a solution and

928
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Speaker 5: in search of a problem. Now people are seeing firsthand.

929
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Speaker 5: We thought the Olympics, right, male boxers who previously failed

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931
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932
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Speaker 5: intent of knocking women unconscious, punching them in the face,

933
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Speaker 5: and they were awarded gold medals. People see that this

934
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Speaker 5: is absurd. Not to answer why we're in Georgia, myself

935
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Speaker 5: and about almost twenty other female athletes. We signed onto

936
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Speaker 5: a lawsuit suing the NCAA and the University of Georgia

937
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Speaker 5: school systems that national championship happened at Georgia Tech, and

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Speaker 5: so we were invited today to testify before a Georgia

939
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Speaker 5: Senate committee. The president of Georgia Tech was also invited

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Speaker 5: to testify. He at one point was complying until he

941
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 5: realized that we would be there, and he subsequently denied

942
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Speaker 5: to be there to testify. And so I had a

943
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 5: testimony prepared today to read, highlighting what we went through again,

944
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Speaker 5: the unfairness, the lack of room, the silencing that we face.

945
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Speaker 5: But instead, after realizing he wasn't going to be there,

946
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Speaker 5: I decided to write him a letter and read him

947
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Speaker 5: my letter during my time to testify, which I believe

948
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Speaker 5: is very powerful, It's very compelling. I ask him the

949
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Speaker 5: simple questions everyone wants to know. Why didn't you protect us?

950
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Speaker 5: And what are you hiding now? Why won't you show up?

951
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 5: Why won't you show your face? Do you have daughters?

952
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 5: How in the world can you sit back as a

953
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:35,799
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954
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955
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 5: and boards. He's a smart man. And you really mean

956
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Speaker 5: to tell me you're okay with what you allowed to

957
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Speaker 5: happen on your campus. I don't think so, and you'll

958
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 5: answer for it. And so that's where we are now.

959
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 5: We actually just concluded the hearing went very well. We're

960
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 5: asking for additional documents internal conversations between the NCAA and

961
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 5: Georgia Tech leading up to this national championship. Not a lawyer,

962
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Speaker 5: but I certainly believe that we'll be victorious in the suit.

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Speaker 1: Riley, courage is contagious, and you're providing a lot of

964
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Speaker 1: courage and as a result, I think you're changing a

965
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: lot of hearts and minds every single day. Keep up

966
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Speaker 1: the fight. If people want to follow you, where can

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Speaker 1: they follow you?

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Speaker 5: Well, first you can check me out at alk dot com.

969
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 5: I've got a show is called the Games for Girls Podcast.

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Speaker 5: Check that out, and then you can follow me on

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Speaker 5: x That is Riley underscore, gains underscore and a new

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Speaker 5: best selling author of the book Swimming against the Current.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations on all the things. Tell your husband, I said, Hi,

974
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Speaker 1: keep rolling, keep fighting the good fight. Thanks for taking

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Speaker 1: the time with us today.

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Speaker 5: You got it, Thanks, Clay.

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Speaker 1: That's Riley Gaines. She is fabulous, she is fearless, and

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Speaker 1: she's an athlete. Remember, for everybody out there, she had

979
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Speaker 1: to swim against a dude, and she was one of

980
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Speaker 1: the female athletes that said this isn't right. I'm not

981
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