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Speaker 1: which so forget about Jim Crow. According to Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: the Truth with Lisa Booth. Welcome back to the Truth

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Speaker 1: with Lisa Booth. I've got an amazing and incredibly timely

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Speaker 1: Lisa Booth. We congratulate him for that. We congratulate him

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Speaker 1: these new data points. Why do you think, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, we can open these businesses, we can do

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Speaker 1: new Some wouldn't see that when you're all looking at

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Speaker 1: probably very similar data points. Well, I think I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of it is just having the tenacity and

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Speaker 1: the grit and the willing us to go through the

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Speaker 1: fight and the national media broads and you're going to

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Speaker 1: take I think a lot of it too, on the

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Speaker 1: other side, quite honestly, was just politics leading up to

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Speaker 1: the presidential election. I think a lot of reasons are

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Speaker 1: of schools didn't open. Were just to drive that COVID

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Speaker 1: narrative at the national level during the presidential race. Unfortunately, Governor,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for breaking down Georgia's election reforms.

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Speaker 1: We really appreciate your time, sir. Keep up the good fight.

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Speaker 1: We will. Thanks for having me on, and have a

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Speaker 1: thank Governor Camp again for this really important and timely interview.

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