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Speaker 1: Star Game and a lot of takeaways, we'll get to

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Speaker 1: and where you stay in travel's. That's that's what I

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Speaker 1: get to, uh, welcome in listen. I watched last night's

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Speaker 1: All Star Game, not not first to last pitch. I'm

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Speaker 1: actually see national anthem, and then I was you know,

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Speaker 1: and when it went to extra innings, this was one

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Speaker 1: I had no idea that's how they decided the All

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Speaker 1: Star Game. None, and I'm guessing none of us did.

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Speaker 1: Jay stud Did you have any idea that they did

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Speaker 2: Nope, not a bit. Didn't know one thing about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not a bashed to say that I

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Speaker 1: All Star Game was two things. One Miss Rowski was

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Speaker 1: abs and and we'll see kind of how it looked. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so I'm gonna offend defend Ken Rosenthal against Eric Hosmer,

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Speaker 1: who's like, dude, you not get the job that you

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Speaker 1: actually have. Now we'll get to that in a second.

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Speaker 1: And then ABS was great. It was like cyclops. It's

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Speaker 1: like the tennis thing, like, man, why haven't had that sooner?

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Speaker 1: And the answer is they actually do have it in

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Speaker 1: the minor leagues. I don't know what we're waiting for.

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Speaker 1: That thing was fantastic. You just touch your helmet, they

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Speaker 1: review it. It shows in the replaying like, ah, oh,

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Speaker 1: look at that just barely a strike. And I said

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Speaker 1: which is I kind of think last night in the ABS,

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Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, I think the umpster a little

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Speaker 1: that's really really close. That's really really hard. There's no

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Speaker 1: way that the human eye can actually see baller strike

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Speaker 1: when it's that close. You're guessing, and if you say otherwise,

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Speaker 1: you're lying, Like it's really hard. You gotta be really

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Speaker 1: that baseball has done a bad job, just like hockey.

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Speaker 1: It's like hockey, isn't overtime in hockey like three on

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Speaker 1: here's what happens. Okay. Each league got to send up

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Speaker 1: three hitters who each got three swings apiece. Whichever side

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Speaker 1: really how they decided the All Star Game. The National

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Speaker 1: American League, and it was six to six at the

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Speaker 1: think that one of the things Baseball's All Star Game

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Speaker 1: Do I think it's the best way to decide a game?

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Speaker 1: Did I think it was entertaining? Yeah? Is it different? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's an All Star game. I'm not offended. Is anybody

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Speaker 1: this is a travesty and a mockery, a Travis sham mockery.

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Speaker 4: Did swing off?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 4: I At first I thought Jason Stewart would. It would

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Speaker 4: of came to the same conclusion that it was fun.

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Speaker 4: No, Because I mean, when's the last time an All

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Speaker 1: So no, that was the tie. That was when they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought they were gone. I mean that's that again.

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Speaker 4: Raven's kissing goodbye. The Irish hit is IRIS. So blacked

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Speaker 1: I did not say that you did. I know that

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Speaker 1: So Aaron Judge show hey, o Tani Irish exit. I

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Speaker 1: sim and then a couple of big TVs. And we're watching.

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Speaker 1: fans than I were. And somebody did ask like we're

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Speaker 1: they were out of there because I remember Derek Jeter,

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Speaker 1: I heard Colins say that it was the greatest All

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Speaker 1: it was good. It's a good celebration of the sport.

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Speaker 1: And imagine the fact that we don't have it for

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Speaker 1: the second half of the year. We like just had

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Speaker 1: It's been used in the minor league, so it's not

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Speaker 1: like last night was the first night. Like they're way

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Speaker 1: would we go without this? It's so much better, and

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Speaker 1: it's better for the umpires, you know, call your ball,

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Speaker 1: call your strike, and then people are going to see

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Speaker 1: when you miss, when you make a mistake, you're making

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Speaker 1: how badly they missed ball and strike. Calls. I think

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Speaker 1: that's a fair fair perception to have. Oh, it's just

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Speaker 1: it's really hard. The margin is so very slight. And

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Speaker 1: of baseball and whether or not it comes to in

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Speaker 1: you a segment we do. It's the middle of the show.

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Speaker 1: It's the middle of the day, it's the middle of

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Speaker 1: the week. And uh we call it the Midway. It's

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Speaker 5: The Midway.

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Speaker 1: Okay. We got my band Ryan Smith, he's on the

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Speaker 1: Jason Stewart. So here's the midway topic we sort of

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Speaker 1: tried to get into last week and then we got

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Speaker 1: diverted by sports. Oh god sports. So and it does

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Speaker 1: you're going taking a ball game, which is if you

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Speaker 1: go and travel let's say months, you pick your dream

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Speaker 7: I don't want to stay at someone else's place. Give

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Speaker 1: The feistiness of corporate capitalism. Okay, Swedo, which anybody got

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Speaker 6: I don't know if it's big, but I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: They you're flying to Florida, you know there's not scary

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Speaker 5: I know I do that every year. Six flags fully

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Speaker 5: Because they have you been to Universal in Orlando. It's ginormous.

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Speaker 5: No, I am, I'm going for scary fun, not you know,

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Speaker 5: No, it's fun.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think usually it's fun because you're with a

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Speaker 5: But he likes the scary stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yes, well, and he also likes that you like that

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Speaker 1: scary stuff, So he'll do whatever you say. Old, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna do because that's what we do, is guys, right.

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Speaker 5: Sure, But he likes the scary stuff, so I don't

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Speaker 5: have to. I don't.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he does scary movies. I don't like all of it.

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Speaker 5: Scary movie we love. Scary movies are scarier the better.

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Speaker 5: There you go. Oh that's right, yeah, scarer of the better.

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Speaker 1: You guys, do know I hate scary movies.

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Speaker 5: Clearly, clearly you hate fun too.

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Speaker 1: I donate fun. I have I have a great like

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Speaker 1: wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait in the

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Speaker 1: in the different like senses and reactions of midwork. How

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Speaker 1: as somebody saying I don't like scary movies saying I

447
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Speaker 1: don't like fun, like you have lots of fun, you know,

448
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Speaker 1: I don't like I don't like being scared because there's

449
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Speaker 1: enough things. I mean, Jason's petrified of people in South

450
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 1: Africa because he's like, right, okay, Like there's enough scary

451
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Speaker 1: things out there that are real things to be scared of.

452
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Speaker 1: Right where you're scared of interest rates going up or

453
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Speaker 1: going down and causing inflation, you people, some people are

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Speaker 1: scared of Trump. Some people are scared when Trump's done.

455
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Speaker 1: Some people are scared of, you know, a nuclear holocaust

456
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Speaker 1: because of all the things that's going on that you're

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Speaker 1: scared of a million things. Right, We sell fear on

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Speaker 1: TV and on radio on a daily basis. I just

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Speaker 1: don't need like artificial fear, That's my point. I have

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Speaker 1: any of I have plenty of organic natural you know,

461
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Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, my daughter Grace flew across the country

462
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Speaker 1: she's in California. Like again, she's somebody gets overwhelmed by stuff,

463
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Speaker 1: like I'm always worried, like, oh hell, what if somebody

464
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Speaker 1: forgets to pick her up and now I gotta find

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Speaker 1: her a ride an uber or whatever. She's just not great.

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Speaker 1: My son's at his summer camp he loves, and then

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Speaker 1: you see what happens in Texas? Is that camp be

468
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Speaker 1: like they're right next to a river, but it's in Maine,

469
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Speaker 1: next to New Hampshire, Like, okay, are they all safe there?

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Speaker 1: You know? My daughter Harper rides horses like she jumps

471
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Speaker 1: over big, gigantic jumps. There's fear. I don't need any

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Speaker 1: more fear that. That doesn't mean I don't like fun.

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Speaker 1: It's just what your definition. I guess being scared is

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Speaker 1: your definition of fun, which I would disagree with.

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Speaker 5: Fun.

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Speaker 1: That is my ted talk, and that is the Midway,

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Speaker 1: The Midway Steut Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. You know,

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Speaker 1: by the way, Ryan Smith, have you seen Mike Frances's

479
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Speaker 1: take on Superman? Like Man, you love Superman? You said

480
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Speaker 1: it is a little too funny at times, that dude

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Speaker 1: hated it.

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Speaker 7: It was fine, it was I give like a I

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Speaker 7: give it and eight out of ten. It wasn't perfect,

484
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Speaker 7: it wasn't great. I thought it was just good.

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Speaker 1: Has anybody seen F one? I want to see F one.

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Speaker 2: I think the answer when you asked it at this

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Speaker 2: time yesterday was no. Have any of our answers changed.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I don't know what you

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Speaker 1: used to doing last night, Monsiet Yeah, okay, maybe tonight. Ogo.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotleep Show podcast. Be

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Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every week day from three

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Speaker 1: to five eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Doug Gotleep Show at

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Speaker 1: Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day

495
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Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. All Right. John

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Speaker 1: Mitacoff joins this three and out is in fact the podcast,

497
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Speaker 1: but he also has to Going Low podcast. I used

498
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Speaker 1: to be a club thrower and a mutterer, but I

499
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Speaker 1: just not good enough, nor do I play or practice

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Speaker 1: enough to be that guy. What do you like on

501
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Speaker 1: a bad day on the course, I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: When I was younger, I was you know, my dad

503
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Speaker 3: probably wanted to kill me. It's an awful look, I

504
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Speaker 3: would say, as I've gotten into my thirties. I just

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Speaker 3: enjoy being outside in the sun. So whether I'm shooting

506
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Speaker 3: seventy five or ninety. The occasional f bomb, but the

507
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Speaker 3: days of throwing clubs and kicking in you know, lockers

508
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Speaker 3: like Wyndham Clark are long gone. The occasional you know,

509
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Speaker 3: throw your hands up in the air, that's human, like

510
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Speaker 3: Scotty did last week. But the what Wyndham Clark this

511
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Speaker 3: year has has been on a tear.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. What do you think of again?

513
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Speaker 1: I know we used to talk football, but you also

514
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Speaker 1: do the golf podcast Scotti Scheffler's remarks yesterday in regards

515
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Speaker 1: to just kind of being empty after winning majors, especially

516
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Speaker 1: the two Masters.

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Speaker 3: You know what's funny is I'm glad you talked about

518
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Speaker 3: this because I saw you you talk about this yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I think I thought on social media for about eight minutes.

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Speaker 3: I think there are a lot of different variables because

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Speaker 3: I know your take and the emotion with some of

522
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Speaker 3: these younger guys never used to get talked about that.

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Speaker 3: There was a clip I thought today probably about an

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Speaker 3: hour ago, as Rodris Harrington, you know who's a Tiger

525
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Speaker 3: generation was almost offended. You know, He's like it was

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Speaker 3: you know, what's he even talking about. I think there

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Speaker 3: are some parallels. Remember a couple of years ago, Adam

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Speaker 3: Silver said all of his players are miserable. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: Scott I would say, Scottie Scheffler over the last eighteen

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Speaker 3: months starting last year through this year's probably made a

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Speaker 3: hundred million dollars. He made sixty five last year just

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Speaker 3: on the course. So if you factor in Nike, which

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Speaker 3: she's obviously, him and Rory are their lead dogs. By

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Speaker 3: winning those tournaments, winning the Major as, the bonuses he

535
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Speaker 3: got might have been twenty million. Taylor, man, he's made

536
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Speaker 3: so much money where he's like he could quit today

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Speaker 3: and financially never. I do think Dad has ramifications, and

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Speaker 3: I think the NBA is the same way. It's like

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Speaker 3: you're playing. Kevin Durant was a good example. He's like

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Speaker 3: I won, No one really cared, and then like it's

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Speaker 3: like what do I do now? You know? And I

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Speaker 3: think these guys now because they live on social media, Scotty,

543
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 3: not necessarily, but they have so much money in the accomplishment.

544
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Speaker 3: Like back in the day, even like when Tiger first started,

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Speaker 3: you just you were constantly climbing because you had to

546
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Speaker 3: earn it. You had to earn it. Now it's like,

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Speaker 3: if you do have success, you get paid so much money.

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Speaker 3: And I do think that just warps you know, in

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Speaker 3: your twenties, how you just think about things. But I

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Speaker 3: also say this, you know Scotty's comments, if you just

551
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Speaker 3: read them, you'd be like, this guy doesn't really care,

552
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Speaker 3: Like his actions speak differently. Right, He's won essentially fifteen

553
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Speaker 3: sixteen times over the last two years, so he's his

554
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Speaker 3: effort and how much he tries. It's not like he's

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Speaker 3: been phased by the money. But you could argue if

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Speaker 3: you watch that whole thing, he's kind of talking out

557
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Speaker 3: of both sides of his mouth because he says he

558
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Speaker 3: gets emotional when he cries, but also what's it all for?

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Speaker 3: But it's not like he's lazy, right, it's not. You know,

560
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Speaker 3: he's working just as hard as you'd say, like, well,

561
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Speaker 3: Mahomes and Kelsey are still on the grind even after

562
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Speaker 3: all the championship, Like Scotty's still working like he's Tiger.

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Speaker 3: But I do think there's that generation of guy. I mean,

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Speaker 3: even Rory won the Masters, he's like, eh, I'm kind

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Speaker 3: of over it now, you know. So can you imagine

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Speaker 3: Tiger or Brady or MJ talking like that? You're Kobe,

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Speaker 3: No chance.

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Speaker 1: Now, I think there's a lot to it. I also

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Speaker 1: think I don't know what youth golf is like, but

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Speaker 1: I can tell you that there's been a lot of

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Speaker 1: discussions about like youth basketball, and there are so many

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Speaker 1: more tournaments that winning one isn't a special as it

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Speaker 1: used to be. Now granted you're talking about majors, you're

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Speaker 1: talking about the Masters, there's only one, but when you've

575
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Speaker 1: played in you know, five ex to tournaments of other people,

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Speaker 1: then winning one does not seem like at nearly a

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Speaker 1: big a thing. I mean, look that that By the way,

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Speaker 1: that's a comment that everyone I know was talking about yesterday.

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Speaker 1: That's really the interesting part about it.

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Speaker 3: I know it in fairness, you know, he didn't he

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Speaker 3: mentioned like regular PG events like the Byron Nelson in

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Speaker 3: his backyard. He didn't mention the Masters, which obviously means

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Speaker 3: a lot to no matter who. I do think there's

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Speaker 3: some you know that's where the NBA comp you know,

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Speaker 3: or just basketball, like regular season game like what is this?

586
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 3: Who cares? And like winning a regular PGA event, who cares,

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Speaker 3: you know, I think there's some element to what he

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Speaker 3: said that parallel is like football world, right, whenever you

589
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Speaker 3: win a game. Let's say we're watching Sunday Night Football

590
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Speaker 3: and the Chiefs beat the Broncos and you're interviewing Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: He's like, well, we gotta we gotta stay focused because

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Speaker 3: we've got the Chargers coming up. It's just isn't that

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Speaker 3: kind of sports Like you're just always kind of on

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Speaker 3: to the next thing. So, I don't know, there are

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Speaker 3: a lot of angles to this. I do think his

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Speaker 3: action back up that he really cares, right, because he's

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Speaker 3: been so good now for two years. It's not like

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Speaker 3: he's resting on his laurels, right, He's grinding and practicing.

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Speaker 3: And he didn't mention that that's the weird That's what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. He was kind of just kind of randing.

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Speaker 3: But it's not like he had one specific point beside like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: sometimes you win, you realize like no one actually cares

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Speaker 3: after a while.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's turn to the National Football League. Oh so many

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Speaker 1: little kind of little stories sort of kind of to

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Speaker 1: get through and to kind of sort of figure out.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Barry Sanders' birthday is today, I bring

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Speaker 1: it up. I bring it up because you know, like

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Speaker 1: anytime you think somebody had a great year in college football,

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Speaker 1: check out Barry Sanders year. You're like, oh, I was

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Speaker 1: a lot a lot better. I think that Saquan is

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Speaker 1: the first guy who I can actually have a reasonable

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Speaker 1: conversation that does some of those freaky things. We've had

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Speaker 1: great backs like Dereck Henry's are great back, like you

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Speaker 1: kind of go back. There's there's been all different big ones,

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Speaker 1: little ones. Marshall fall is abile to catch out of

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Speaker 1: the backfield or whatever. But in terms of doing things

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Speaker 1: where you make people miss and you jump over people

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Speaker 1: or make them look almost like Keystone cops, I think

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Speaker 1: Saquon's the first guy since Barry Sanders do that. Am

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Speaker 1: I forgetting anybody? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think physically from a strength standpoint, that was always

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Speaker 3: the underrated part about like Barry, like his size, how

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Speaker 3: strong he was. I mean some of those epics like

626
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Speaker 3: him dragging guys that were holding on for dear life.

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Speaker 3: I would say that Barry was I mean in this

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Speaker 3: day and age obviously, I mean he would dominate in

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Speaker 3: any air he was, he would have been viewed also

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Speaker 3: like an Lt. Marshall fall catching the ball. You know,

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Speaker 3: I would say Saquon has solid hands, but I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: call him like Christian McCaffrey right now. He The difference

633
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Speaker 3: is like Barry, like you don't need to be a

634
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Speaker 3: great running back. You don't need exceptional like high end speed,

635
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Speaker 3: like you can be an all time grave like Frank

636
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 3: Gorey couldn't outrun anyone. But he's you're just a really

637
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 3: really good player. Now if you do have the home

638
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 3: run hitting speed like Adrian Peterson, then it's like you

639
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,479
Speaker 3: can be a major problem. And I think that like

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Speaker 3: that is Saquon's kind of curveball is like he gets

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00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: in the open field, he's literally faster than everyone else.

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Speaker 3: Gevin McCaffrey. Let's assume he's healthy this year. You know

643
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Speaker 3: he's gonna get caught a decent amount. And I would

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Speaker 3: say Barry like Saquon, like they got in the open

645
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Speaker 3: field and there was green grass, and you know, bo Jackson,

646
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 3: like they see you. So it's like and that's what

647
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 3: makes Saquon so fun is I think last year, well

648
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 3: was it six or seven sixty plus yard runs, and

649
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 3: that's part of I mean, I would imagine anytime you

650
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 3: find a two thousand yard rusher, they had a decent

651
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 3: amount of chunk runs, right, It's not all just five

652
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 3: and six yard carries.

653
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he was he was so amazing, so

654
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: amazing last year. Okay, let's kind of go around the

655
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: league here. Let's start with I think the most interesting

656
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 1: team this year is to Steelers. We've talked about them

657
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: a good amount. Let's kind of start getting to the

658
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: actual football league talkie, what do you think of the

659
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: roster compilation that they've made? Haven't extended TJ Watt to

660
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: this point? What do you think of what Pittsburgh has

661
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: roster wise? Hand of the year.

662
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 3: You know, I think they're just so predicated on the

663
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 3: quarterback staying healthy and historically how often you guys once

664
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 3: they get over forty. I mean, he's an injury that

665
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 3: maybe used to go away in a week, last a month.

666
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 3: He can't scramble around like he used to when he's not,

667
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, obviously a good pocket player, but

668
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: his game hasn't been predicated like Peyton or Brady were

669
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 3: you He just sits there, his entire career, because that's

670
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 3: not how he had to play. So I just what's

671
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 3: more likely Rogers plays seventeen games and throws thirty two

672
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 3: touchdowns or you know, you look at Rogers, you know

673
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 3: game log in ten years and he starts nine of

674
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: him because he has some injuries. So I think that's

675
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 3: going to be the problem. I just have a hard

676
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 3: time seeing him play healthy and loot. They say a

677
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 3: lot of times happens in basketball too, like the second

678
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 3: year returning from the Achilles is when you get it back.

679
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 3: That's fine. But he's not thirty. He's forty one. So

680
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 3: even if he's a little sprier than he was last year,

681
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 3: it's clear he's he's not the you know, kind of

682
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 3: the young, vibrant guy that could He was ever lamar,

683
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 3: but he could scrambling behind the line of scrimmage with

684
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 3: a huge part of his game. I mean, hell, look

685
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 3: at Russell Wilson, who feels like he's gotten slower movement

686
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 3: wise behind the line of scrimmage doesn't look nearly the same.

687
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 3: And that's that was always Roger's superpower. So if I'm

688
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 3: a betting man, like there is a case that if

689
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 3: he were to get injured this year. Given their quarterback room,

690
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 3: this could be the year that I got the Steelers

691
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 3: actually did go seven and ten and it's a disaster.

692
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 3: And they've already admitted, like I mean, they don't even

693
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 3: have to admit, just bate on their roster. They don't

694
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 3: have any backup plan flash next year, it's like they

695
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: would be in the same position. So unless they were

696
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 3: to win like two or three games, it's not like

697
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 3: they'd be drafting that high. So I think they're they

698
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 3: got problems.

699
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about this Shamar Stewart story. Okay, So I.

700
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 3: Hope, I hope he goes back to school. That'd be sick,

701
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 3: now do you do know?

702
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: Okay, So let me lay it out for people. Okay, uh,

703
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 1: they hid in pass in negotiations with the Bengals, right,

704
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: and his agent excuse me. Billy Hayen from the Sportingnews

705
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: dot Com and Bud Elliott from CBS Sports reported that

706
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: he's fully involved in workouts at text A and M,

707
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: and both their sources say could try and come back

708
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 1: and play again the season going to the draft next year.

709
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: Here's the part that people don't know. The Bengals still

710
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: retain his rights whether he goes back and plays or doesn't. Right,

711
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: So like I you say, hope he goes back and plays.

712
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: He went into the draft.

713
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 3: For the story, not that I just think it'd be

714
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: you know, the Bengals they're arguing. They're not arguing over

715
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 3: how much money they're going to pay them the money set.

716
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 3: It's just the dates. I mean, it's it's pretty stupid.

717
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 3: I also would love to you know, like you know,

718
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 3: twenty ten years ago, you'd be like, well, this is

719
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 3: never going to be allowed by the NC Double A.

720
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 3: These football programs now, I mean the NC Double A

721
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 3: in terms of their power, feels like they're hanging off

722
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 3: your life. So it just it just be chaotic. And

723
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 3: you know it's right up Texas A and M's Alley too.

724
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 3: They're they're a little bit of a renegade program. I

725
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 3: just the Bengals. I did the whole thing. I signed

726
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: me up. Do I think he's ended up going to

727
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 3: sign with the Bengals guests But and the other thing

728
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 3: is he's been working out with text A and M.

729
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 3: I bet most rookies like, yeah, they have an apartment,

730
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 3: they probably have girlfriends, Like they go back in the

731
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 3: summer where else are they going to go, And they

732
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,240
Speaker 3: usually work out with their former teammates, especially these underclassmens.

733
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 3: It's like they're literally their buddies. So it's him working

734
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 3: out with Techa and m is not as crazy as

735
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 3: it sounds. When you factor in the other things of

736
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 3: the story that got it, you might go back. I

737
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 3: have a decent amount of guys that were just drafted

738
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 3: have spent the last several weeks back where they went

739
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 3: to college and training with their either college strength coach

740
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 3: their guys. Like, that's pretty normal.

741
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: Uh.

742
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Again, I don't know what level of working out

743
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 1: there is. I would say generally, you're right, but again

744
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: I don't know this time of year, our guys staying

745
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 1: up at their facilities and training. I mean that. Yeah,

746
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: the whole thing is super, super fascinating right here. The

747
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: Bengals are They spent more money than they've ever spent

748
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: on offense. You draft a guy on defense and you

749
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 1: got an agent holding you up looking for some contract.

750
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: I've this would be a disaster for the NFLPA, the

751
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: NFLPA because the NFL owners be like, hold on, dude,

752
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: we have a CBA. The kid declared he got drafted.

753
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: What are you doing. What are you doing? This is

754
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: a terrible look for the Players Association if he doesn't

755
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: sign a contract.

756
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 3: There's already some I mean, the second round thing is

757
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,959
Speaker 3: all these guys, you know that. I saw the forty

758
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 3: nine ers guy, no show. Everyone wants their contract fully guaranteed.

759
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 3: And you know, this story was kind of out of

760
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 3: left field because it's never really happened anymore. So I

761
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 3: text the buddy in the league. I said, what's going on?

762
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 1: And he's like, well, it's collusion between the agents. Let

763
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: me help you. Okay, Yeah, here's how it. Here's how it.

764
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: Here's how it worked. This is my again, and you

765
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: tell me if I'm wrong, Okay. Florio and uh, what's uh?

766
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: Poor heart? Huh? Pablo Pablo Torri. They had that story,

767
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: which if you read the story, it's actually kind of

768
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: a nothing burger. It just did. It's like it's like,

769
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: you know, they were like, hey, it's kind of dumb

770
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: to do these guaranteed contracts, guys, right, I fully guaranteed contracts.

771
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: It's kind of dumb in this sport case in point,

772
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: that's a that's a really bad deal. Right. There was

773
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: no collusion to it, as if they were including then

774
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: they would they would have held prices down, held guarantees down.

775
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: They have not. They have not. But it's again, I

776
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: feel like it's a what's the term they use in

777
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: military coordinated attack is a because this story comes out

778
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: at the exact same time that second round picks are like, hey,

779
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: I want my contract fully guaranteed. Just happens that happened

780
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: at the same time.

781
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 3: The reality is the most second round pick as you

782
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 3: get down from like thirty three to sixty it changed

783
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 3: a little bit, but a lot of guys from like

784
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 3: thirty three to fifty. Texting with some people that negotiate

785
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 3: these contracts, some of these guys are contract is like

786
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 3: close to ninety seven percent guaranteed before anyone's ever argued.

787
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 3: So it's like, now the number is smaller than the

788
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 3: first rounders, but the vast majority of the contract is guaranteed.

789
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 3: It's not like it's fifty said they're arguing for, you know,

790
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 3: the ad or fifty percent. Most of these guys the

791
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 3: contracts pull again, so they're really arguing over a pretty

792
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 3: It sounds a little crazier than actually it's kind of

793
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 3: like the Samark Stewart Chamar Stewart I don't know the

794
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 3: exact number, but it's just arguing on the date he paid.

795
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 3: Let's just say he wants the money January first, and

796
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 3: they want to pay him September first. You know, I'm

797
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,959
Speaker 3: like year three. So it's it's all kind of semantics,

798
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 3: which again, as numbers grow, which they continue to fly.

799
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 3: I mean, we just thought the Chiefs gave a guard

800
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 3: seventy million dollars guarantee, so it's the money's flowing. You know,

801
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: more of this stuff's going to happen. I mean, we've

802
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 3: seen in basketball forever the player empowerment. Well, when a

803
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 3: player empowerment happened, when the numbers got so enormous, it's like,

804
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 3: we're not going to you know, you kind of like

805
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: draw a line in the sand. And that's what I think.

806
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 3: The players like the NFL players, they do have more juice. Again,

807
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 3: it's on a relative scale than they've ever had, and

808
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 3: I would imagine that we're gonna see more and more

809
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 3: of these things. I would guess this upcoming couple weeks,

810
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 3: we're gonna have more guys quote unquote holding in or

811
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 3: holding out than we've ever had. I mean, do you remember,

812
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 3: like when you were in college or whatever, like nineties,

813
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 3: one guy you know throughout the league might like an

814
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: M and Smith, and then over the years maybe a couple.

815
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 3: Now it feels like, I don't know, there's gonna be

816
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 3: ten plus Pro Bowlers not show up here in a week.

817
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 3: And that's not even talking about the second rounders.

818
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about here's where's the here's the irony

819
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: to it? Right, A lot of this is empowered and

820
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: triggered by agents.

821
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 3: For sure, what