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Speaker 1: My grandma and your grandma was sitting by the fun

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Speaker 1: is the beginning of Blessed by Christina Aguilera. We were

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Speaker 1: just talking about this and we were just um and

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Speaker 1: we had to really hold off on recording because Matt

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Speaker 1: was masticating on a goddamn peanut colata muffin, which is

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Speaker 1: the most thank and the reason I started to sing

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Speaker 1: bless Yes, it's because we are because of how I

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Speaker 1: feel today with this guest, Honey, bless up, which is

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Speaker 1: something we've been saying a lot in l A. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Will we carry it back to us when

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Speaker 1: this moment right now, we feel certainly that way. Certainly

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Speaker 1: I feel the need to say blessed up with our guest.

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Speaker 1: Let's go through the credits. Matt, I would love to

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Speaker 1: list off some of these credits. He is on the

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Speaker 1: UCB Harold team Nomy Malone and if you thought that

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Speaker 1: the summer of because guess what, it wasn't enough. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't enough. And he's a little double dipper, Honey. He's

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Speaker 1: a versatile queen, versatile crocodile. And you also might know

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Speaker 1: our guests from his amazing series UM where he reads

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Speaker 1: on Facebook live Tyra Banks's amazing novel Mono Land with

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Speaker 1: Special Guests UM. And you might also know him from

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Speaker 1: his monthly show I Will Always Love You uh U

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Speaker 1: CBS uh inter sinct him. He is known as the

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Speaker 1: Oprah of improv. He's the Oprah of improv, the Opera

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Speaker 1: of comedy, the Oprah of my life. Everyone, please welcome Oscar.

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Speaker 1: Were the kindest words I've ever heard anyone saying about Bich.

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Speaker 1: We are kind here. Did you ever forget it? Here's

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Speaker 1: the thing. I wouldn't just say it, you want to.

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Speaker 1: People have said that to me. They've said, you know,

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Speaker 1: Oscar as a as an improv coach, he's like Oprah,

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Speaker 1: and I will say this and this is like sentimental

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Speaker 1: as this is. I will say this is sentimental as hell.

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Speaker 1: And I said, I've said this to Oscar. Fully we're

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Speaker 1: of improv thing. I would not be doing half the

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Speaker 1: should I we be doing in comedy and the Live

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Speaker 1: because he helped me co host my first variety show

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Speaker 1: with him, which is called Ethnic Realness and still doing it.

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Speaker 1: We're still doing it. On Saturday was a um Oscar,

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Speaker 1: I'll have Oscar to thank We all have Oscar to thank.

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Speaker 1: Stop it. How are you? I am doing great? Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for having me on this podcast. It's legendary.

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Speaker 1: It's why we came to l I was to have

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Speaker 1: the reason. It's part of we did literally say like, oh,

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Speaker 1: a long over by the time, but look at us,

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Speaker 1: Oscar was in New York a few months and not

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Speaker 1: everything is meant to be orchestrated. It wasn't that it

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Speaker 1: just happened. Sometimes the magic just happens, and we have

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Speaker 1: Oprah the honey. Sometimes there the magic just doesn't come.

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Speaker 1: It was your birthday. Recently, you had sent everybody on

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Speaker 1: a scavenger hunt. It was called hashtag scavenger hunt. Hoya.

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Speaker 1: What did you Why wouldn't you do? You would feel

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Speaker 1: there's a little bit of that. But that's cute. But

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Speaker 1: with Oscar though, like it will be a curated experience. Don't, honey, don't.

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Speaker 1: It was fun. It was really really fun. All the

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Speaker 1: scavenger hunts was I mean, like, I rarely indulge in myself.

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Speaker 1: That's not part of what I do. What I do. Um,

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Speaker 1: the stuff that I was into. For example, um, we

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Speaker 1: I love my haunted mythology I do. Do you love

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Speaker 1: a gag that is a created haunted house or do

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Speaker 1: you need the real thing? I need those real life testimonials, Darlene.

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Speaker 1: So you you're not the type to roll through an

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Speaker 1: I can get into it, but it's like fake, do

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Speaker 1: It's called my my house is sold. It has a name, okay,

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Speaker 1: my landlord lives there. His name is Stanley. He's a

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Speaker 1: very fun, roly poly dandy man. Do you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean? He's just so fun. Sure, and you're saying

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Speaker 1: And I'd like to think that there's some there's a

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Speaker 1: for Oscar. Oscar invites it because this is my favorite

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Speaker 1: Oscar Montoya story. Ever, one day we were hanging out

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Speaker 1: on his leg a new tattoo of a screaming cat face. Yes,

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Speaker 1: think that's a human thing. Sure, I mean, yeah, we've

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Speaker 1: top of mind the screaming cafes. The same tattoo that

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Speaker 1: like a power mighty morphin Power Rangers tattoo. I have

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Speaker 1: so much. People who see it are like, oh, you're

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Speaker 1: you love gatorade, don't you. I'm like, okay, okay, this

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Speaker 1: this is a whole different vibe. This is a whole

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00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 1: apples and oranges here. What's going on? What are we

423
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 1: happening about? Icon? Are you talking about like little cultural icon?

424
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: Sant She's not a cultural I think are our icon? Beyonce?

425
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 1: Let me let me think, do you think she's Here's

426
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: what I'll say. Beyonce um in a real way, but

427
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 1: in a consistent and fluid way, has been able to

428
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 1: truly reinvent herself in a way that was always not

429
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 1: only interesting but also very artistic and progressive. Whereas you

430
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 1: could argue, and I'm not necessarily arguing this that Santra

431
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:45,199
Speaker 1: definitely did that movie with Anna after she did anyway, No,

432
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: but but, but I was going to say, you could

433
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 1: argue in a way that she has never truly slipped

434
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: up in a way like I'm gonna I'm gonna play

435
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 1: the Devil's advocate here and say that her shelf life

436
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 1: maybe isn't as long as the other icon. You know

437
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: what I mean. She's like, she's one of the new words.

438
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 1: She is the newest icon. I would say, so has

439
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 1: been a thing for almost twenty years. Twenty years. If

440
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 1: you actually think when the entity of Beyonce come to fruition.

441
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 1: I remember saying, Sasha firist. That was when she was like, okay,

442
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: new gay agreed. And how long ago was that? Okay?

443
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: Are we talking about when she became a seven years

444
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 1: ago or how long she's been doing very influential work,

445
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: because that you could say, get back to early Destiny's Child,

446
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 1: like how early? And I did this? No, no, no,

447
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: part two. I'm saying once say my Name came out,

448
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 1: they were here to stay and that came out in

449
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 1: oh oh, you're talking about the writings on the wall Destiny.

450
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: Of course I am talking about Destiny's Child. Here's the thing, listen,

451
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: it's like, I just want to first correct Sasha came

452
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 1: out in two, which is nine years ago. I'm so sorry,

453
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 1: but to say that wasn't an icon until that's like

454
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: what do you say? What did you sleep through? Crazy

455
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 1: and love? Sure? I mean, okay, yeah, I'm so sorry.

456
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: I don't apologize. Make your points. Well, no, I'm not

457
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: just Oscar's being Devil's advocate here. I think Beyonce will

458
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 1: last for generations and we're going to see here. You

459
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: think she's going to be absolutely you think she's going

460
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: to out iconicize Madonna. Yes, absolutely, Wow, Madonna has like

461
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: so many slip ups it's insane. I mean, I agree

462
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: with that. Beyonce is never never. I just grabbed it

463
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 1: so cute. She's she's never going to resort to hijinks. Okay.

464
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 1: And and Madonna is trapsing around here and she's performing Hydra.

465
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: It's a gimmick. She's giving you kissing Brittany at the

466
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 1: at the at the and Christina. Let's not forget she

467
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: also kissed Christina. Why do we keep forgetting that? My friend,

468
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: our friend, Colin cord aposty years ago, text to me

469
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: one time out of nowhere, remember when Beyonce was disgusted

470
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: like it was like, Beyonce is not a true a

471
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: because she was Amice. I'll tell you, I'll tell you well.

472
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: Remember her early lyric. I'm not going to come from

473
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 1: Masma Christianity. I'm not going to whatever. Um Okay, can

474
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: I answer because my mama taught me better, because I

475
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: facetiously gave the answer of Sandra is the most consistent icon.

476
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: But I guess she's on an icon. I guess. I

477
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: mean you gotta say, I'm gonna say, you can't say Gaga.

478
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say Gaga. I'm gonna say, why can't

479
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 1: he say Gaga? Because she's not consistent? Because it wasn't consistent.

480
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: It's not not amazing, it's not consistent. What was her

481
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 1: lowest point? Our pop? A lot of people would just

482
00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 1: you know, I think I think her outside high drinks,

483
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: around the art, her extracurriculars, her extracurricular activities around the

484
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: art pop era. Because she came to school with a

485
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: good project, you know what I mean. It was the

486
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: fact that she was smoking cigarettes outside that got her

487
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: in detention, you know, girl, And we put her, We

488
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: certainly did. We were the ones who put her intention

489
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: she hung out with the bad kids like Marino Brama Vack. Honey,

490
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: let's say what you were saying. Well, I'm really drawing

491
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: a blank here, but I want to say out of

492
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: all fields. This is such a boring answer, But I

493
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: guess Mary, but she's not even like ricking the Flash.

494
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,959
Speaker 1: That's literally what I was gonna say. That wasn't her fault.

495
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: That wasn't her fault. That was Diablo Cody's fault. Okay, okay,

496
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: god Oscar, you give your answer. What is who is

497
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: the icon. Who will the more the most consistent icon, girl,

498
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 1: The most consistent icon to me is not it's it's

499
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: mini Mouse girl. It's like a cartoon Carl. We just

500
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: that brand is like brand. Okay, well then what well

501
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 1: then what? First of all, I'm pissed Mini Mouse, Daisy duck, bitch,

502
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: that's a true icon. Who shut the funk up? Name

503
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: one thing about Daisy Duck or minimouse that is like

504
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: personal that the brand, Honey, cartoon characters what they can't

505
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: be legendary if they're not. Mini mouse is anti feminists, Minimouse,

506
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: mini mouse is it's the mail gig. Are not sent

507
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: any beans who can make decisions about their careers and

508
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: they're creative. Okay, No, No, that's the exist because in

509
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: Mickey exist and that is the male g yet and

510
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: yet they've risen above Honey, There, Honey is when is

511
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: her album coming out? You don't need an album, Mini Mouse,

512
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: She doesn't need to come up with an album. She's fine.

513
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: Where she's gonna be wearing her polka dot dress looking

514
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: cute as fuck. Okay, she's gonna wear a bow an

515
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: on her head and be like, I'm snatched for the gods.

516
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: Darling Disney snatched the rib from Mickey Mouse and Donald

517
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,719
Speaker 1: Duck and crafted a female version. Why do you have

518
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: to make a religious girl? Why do you have to

519
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: go there? Here's the icon who will Who has been

520
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: consistent is Jesus Christ. Yeah, he's right, and you can't

521
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: say anything about Jesus not on this weekend. True consistent

522
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: icon Jesus Christ, Mary Mother Mary, Mother Mary Honey. She

523
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: stayed consistent without the years. Let's look into our religious

524
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: icons for guys. I have one RuPaul, but has been consistent.

525
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: Star Booty, she looks pretty rough when she was on

526
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: Project Thank You. Oh my gosh, she did look so

527
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: she looked like sick. Actually, I was like, but you

528
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: know what, though, it's better that she had rough times

529
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: because that's why we need so bad, because we know

530
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: she's seen the dark. The thing is with Beyonce and

531
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: you you could say this works against her her relatability,

532
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: which I know is not the point of Beyonce, that

533
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: she is supposed to stand for perfection. But we haven't

534
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: see herself up and like, I don't know. It's like,

535
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: even when it would be impossible not to, she hasn't.

536
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: I'm just you know, not not that I'm against Beyonce

537
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: at all, because I'm not. I do think she's sickening.

538
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: I'm just so tired of her being the go to answer,

539
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Just like and also also,

540
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: but you asked about consistency and consistency and perfection. I

541
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: believe do live in the same world if we're talking

542
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: about consistently like in terms of like what they bring,

543
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: and they always bring that. I think pretty pretty much

544
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: Rhon has always been on brand. She's always giving you

545
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: messy ass ree. Yeah, people don't feel that as much

546
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: as they feel Beyonce. Beyonce is just like a universal Yes,

547
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: this is good. Briana is like this is good, but

548
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: like hmmmmmm okay, you know, well, who is consistently inconsistent

549
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: and like all over the fucking places Demi Levado. And

550
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: you gotta give props collaps to Demi Levado for never

551
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: figuring her ship out but still being fun to listen to. Wow,

552
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: I have to say, I don't think it's okay to

553
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: come for Demi. I'm not a you. You don't think

554
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: she's do you think she's no fun? She's still interesting

555
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: to watch because it's like girl, you gotta stop announcing

556
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: your retirement from the industry when you keep coming out

557
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: with these new albums. She just doesn't know what she

558
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: wants and it's fine and it's okay. She's just human.

559
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: You didn't think that her top and the Pool for

560
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: the summer music video was not the top of the year. Yeah,

561
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: you know when I watched that video three times in

562
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: a row and thought I liked girls. Okay, I mean

563
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: mentor because DEM's tough girl, or do I want to

564
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: suck her top? Want? So sorry, I forgot about my

565
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: mental list of tops of the year, Oscar. We were

566
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: going to ask you finally the question we asked all

567
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: of our guests. But this question is um big question

568
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: and UM take your time, okay, Oscar, Um am I

569
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: saying that right, Oscar? This question is what is the

570
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: culture that you, as a young Oscar? I hope I'm

571
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: saying that right, made you say I want to step

572
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: in a cultural direction. What was the culture that defined

573
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: Oscar mont Oscary say, culture is for me? Oscar Montoya.

574
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: He was like, okay, I'm influenced in this moment and

575
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: this will change all to the course of my Oscar

576
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: Montoya took in something and said, I think culture is

577
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: a part of me and I can never imagine living

578
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,959
Speaker 1: without culture. Is he saying there, Oscar Montoya? Yeah, can

579
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: you say that again, Oscar Monty mont Um, I will

580
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: say that I got in college. I got a dance

581
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: award because I was a dancer in college and oh girl,

582
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: come on, I'm okay. Um they gave me a plaque

583
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: that was like, oh answer the year they spell my

584
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: name Oscar monte Ya, and I was livid. I was like,

585
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: this is not fair. I worked so hard and they

586
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: misspelled my name anyway. Um, I just I just want

587
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: to preface by saying that I, as a human being,

588
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: only communicate through pop culture. Pop culture is running through

589
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: my veins as we speak. Okay, I'm a vessel. I'm

590
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: a vessel of media, you know what I mean? Like,

591
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: that's how I communicate with people. When people say I

592
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: didn't grow up with a TV, delete goodbye because I

593
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: we won't. We just won't talk. That's it. People who

594
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: say I don't like music, goodbye forever. How dare you?

595
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: Are you even human being? Sorry? You've heard people say

596
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: that there was there was a crazy kid in my

597
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: elementary school who said he didn't like music. And then

598
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: I checked back in with him in high school and

599
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: he still didn't like music. And I was like, you

600
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: know what I mean, what what is that? And they're

601
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: always crazy, all of them. So you com you communicate

602
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: in pop culture, do and I'll tell you why. And

603
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why because I was not born in America.

604
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: I'm an immigrant, Okay. I was born in Colombia. And

605
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: I was born in a village in Colombia. Okay, like

606
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: you know, dirt roads, like no tea, I mean, like

607
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 1: just like we had. I remember when I was like six,

608
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: we had a black and white box, huge s box TV.

609
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: And it was like my life changed forever, okay. And

610
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: I would watch, um, bay Watched Nights, not the original

611
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: but the spinoff Baywatch Nights, obsessed with it because it's like,

612
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: you know, flirted with paranormal stuff. And I was just

613
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: obsessed that nineties TV show The Renegade Obsessed. These are

614
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: all shows that my grandma loved watching, so I loved

615
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: watching you know what I mean, That's the kind of

616
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: media that I consumed. Um. So, then coming here as

617
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: like a like a tween, I would say, um, that's

618
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: all I want all I want. I was just obsessed

619
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: with media culture TV, you know, movies, music, video games,

620
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: and it was like you know, and especially American media,

621
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: just like all about it. So I mean, you want

622
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: to talk about it, let's talk about That's exactly why

623
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: you're here, Okay, honey, you are a true culture so like, look,

624
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: look at this, this episode is already a special line.

625
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: We just went right into it. We did. We went

626
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: right into it even before this this got recorded, and

627
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: we're plunging even further. Yes we are. Let's Jack who

628
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: still the ship out of this James Cameron doing research

629
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: for the film. That's right now. I want to know

630
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: about of course, that's the abyss. The abyss because everybody saw, um, Oscar,

631
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: what got you into dancing? I don't even think I

632
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: really know this about you? Oh dancing. I did it

633
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: in Colombia. I did something called Columbia, which is like

634
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: the kind of folkloric dancing of Columbia. UM. And it

635
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: was like very cute. I have pictures where I'm just

636
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: like whatever, um. And then when I came here, you know,

637
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: there was no cute twirling. I was twirling darling when

638
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: I moved here. They didn't really have that. So I

639
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: was like, you know that I found like modern contemporary

640
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 1: movement and I was like, oh, that speaks to me, um,

641
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: And then that's something that I've done, you know, until

642
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: I discovered comedy. And then that all went out the window.

643
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: Did you discover comedy? Um? A roommate of mine, his

644
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 1: name was Chopper, and that's the name I gave him

645
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: because he wanted people to take him more seriously. So

646
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: I was like, just change your name. Do you want

647
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: to people take him seriously? Aizing him? You can't be

648
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: born into this world, so let me his name was.

649
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: His name is Christian Jacobs, which you know, by all

650
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: means is a normal, sort of okay name. But the

651
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: name like Chopper, which he still goes by to this day.

652
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? I identified because I

653
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: was born with the name Matt Rogers, and I have

654
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 1: had to fight and now it's now it's a household name, Darling.

655
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: I have had to fight. You're a fighter. It's okay.

656
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: But because when you in the Google search, you see

657
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people, a lot, and one of them

658
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: is an American idol contested, and one of them is

659
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: a horribly offensive comedy singer and what does that mean?

660
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: Comedy singer. There's a song called suck on My sock,

661
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: on my sock on my cock to the tune of

662
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: jingle Bell Rock and guys come on all together. Sucko, ma,

663
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: suck o, suck on my cock. No, it's not even

664
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: suck on my cock. It's it's suck on my cock.

665
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: He doesn't even get the rhythm though, And then to

666
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: tell people that I do musical sketch, that like music

667
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: is a part of my comedy, and they search and

668
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: they're like, well, this must be it. My god, no,

669
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: that is not. That's not my cock isn't necessarily just

670
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: the title, it's not necessarily off brand, No, it's not.

671
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: It's pretty adjacent. So it's like, okay, I'm I'm a

672
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: look every day I do panic about it. Chopper Comedy,

673
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: Chopper he I was roommates with him, and here's the thing.

674
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 1: I was performing, but I also had really bad stage

675
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 1: fright um and like also social anxiety um. And my roommate,

676
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: you know, Chopper was like, you should take an improv class, um,

677
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, no, no, I do not do comedy.

678
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: I'm not a funny person. No, no, no, Um, I

679
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: can't like there's no, I don't. I didn't know what

680
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: improv was, like, none of that. And you didn't associate

681
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: as a funny person. No never, no, no no no

682
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: no no never never never. That was never part of

683
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: my gig ever. Um And he was like, no, I

684
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 1: think it's good because it'll make you feel comfortable around people.

685
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: And it was just like loosen you up around people.

686
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: And not a lot of comedians are taking these classes.

687
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: There's like lawyers and accountants and all that teachers. And

688
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, great. So I took a class, my

689
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: first ever class with um the Goddess Betsy Stover at

690
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: you see at UCB, and hated it. Not because of Betsy,

691
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: she was so great, but because everyone in that class

692
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: was so thirsty to be on essent now you know

693
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like this is like one oh one class.

694
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: People don't even know how to talk to each other,

695
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: and they're like I want to be well fair all

696
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm just like I want to like

697
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: just talk to people. So like freaked me out. It

698
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: scared me, and then I just kind of stopped doing

699
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: it because I was like, this is not for me.

700
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: This is terrifying but the whole time I was just

701
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: obsessed with it. I couldn't stop thinking about it, just

702
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 1: like the intricacies of like what improv is the fact

703
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: that you're like creating something made up, like there's no

704
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: script at all. I was just like I went to

705
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 1: every show. I was just like obsessed. For two years,

706
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 1: I didn't do improv, but I watched it all the time.

707
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: After two years, I was like, what am I doing?

708
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: Like there, I have to go back, Like I gotta

709
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: do this. I gotta do this. So I went to

710
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: a place called the People's Improv Theater and changed my life.

711
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: I took one class there with Kevin Scott, and it

712
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: changed my Every single thing made sense to me, and

713
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: it totally turned my world upside down. I learned how

714
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: to be more comfortable with myself. I learned how to

715
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 1: be more comfortable with myself around people. I wasn't afraid

716
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: of like judgment or anything. Like I I stopped being

717
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: scared of myself and my voice and started just being myself,

718
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: my like my most comfortable, gay, brown ass self. And

719
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: it cultivated this sort of confidence on stage that I'd

720
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: never ever, ever, ever ever ever would have thought I had.

721
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: You know, what I mean, And now I you know,

722
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: and I to comedy. That's that's that's that's improv, bitch.

723
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: This is real because I first time I ever met

724
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: Oscar was it a show at the Mondent called Pace

725
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: That's right, and it was the week of my story

726
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: Parrots edition. It was just out of college. It was miserable,

727
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: had no fucking idea what I was doing. I got

728
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: invited to play at the show by Andrew talking talks

729
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: Hi Andrew and Sacecar on stage and I was like, Oh,

730
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: that guy is so fucking funny and look at his

731
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: tattoos and look at his hat. He's so cool. Yeah,

732
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: and then instant when people start and you never forget.

733
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: I did my set and then Oscar came up to

734
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: me and was like, hey, that was really funny. I'm

735
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: Oscar about when do you what do you do? Like,

736
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: what's your deal? And I was like, oh, I'm auditioning

737
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: for story parts tomorrow and I don't know how it's

738
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: gonna go, but I'm excited. And you were like, well, great,

739
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: good luck whatever, have fun. Um said something very encouraging.

740
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure, but I forget um. But then after I

741
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: got on UM, I remember like you were one of

742
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: the first people to reach out and say congrats, I'm

743
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: so excited for you. And from there this friendship blossomed.

744
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: But it was because it was like you clock that

745
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: as an audience member, even as a performer, just being

746
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: like that person. And to hear you say that you,

747
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: to hear you say that you like, were this reticent

748
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: shy in your person before, it's like crazy, Oh my god,

749
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: I remember my very first class. You know, we go

750
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: around and we talk about ourselves. I had such a

751
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: severe stutter. I could not even say my own name.

752
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: Never oh yes, yes, yes, closet it at this time. No, girl,

753
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: Well I don't know. You contain this, honey, can you

754
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: contain it? Star? I don't know, bitch. Oh girl, I

755
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: was out. I was out. I was at at a

756
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: very early age. Okay, I was out. Okay, So this

757
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: is the real ty. I was out four years old.

758
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: I was Cuma in the Hills. She's four years old

759
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: doing Cumia in the hills, working it out down. That's right,

760
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: that's right. The Colombian sign of music. Honey, Yes, hills

761
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: are alive with the sounds of Cumia. Title of the

762
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: Hills are Alive with the sounds of cumia. Okay, cool, continue, thanks.

763
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: But I was in college. I was out. I was

764
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: telling you. I mean, I was gay. I was a

765
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: fucking you know what I mean? And I was still

766
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: any girls because that's just the way. I don't know,

767
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: because the girl. You know, I don't know how it

768
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 1: is for you guys. But the girls are always thirsty

769
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: for boys, do you know what I mean? They were

770
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: always still they were pursuing me still, and I was like,

771
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say no. So I was taking these girls.

772
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I don't know, it's a dark time

773
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: in my past, you know what I mean. The girls

774
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: were thirsty from a freshman year and then I think

775
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: I really settled into who I was really was sophomore year,

776
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I just didn't get interested anymore.

777
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: Isn't it interesting how sometimes um no one is interested

778
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: in But oh my god, now I'm just kidding. Um,

779
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: did you ever have a girlfriend? Moe? No? Never? Never? Never?

780
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,479
Speaker 1: Who was your first kiss? Had girls? Um? Oh? First

781
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: kiss was no? I don't want to say this, Come on,

782
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: you must come on. Inquiring minds want to know. Okay,

783
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: first kiss was this girl named Laura? No? Block and

784
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: she was very but it was just a kind of

785
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: a it was like a half Joe. Oh my god,

786
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: you guys in middle school. This is all coming back

787
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: to me. These kids at my lunch table who I

788
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: thought were my friends. This is I'm sorry. This is

789
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: like the third traumatic school story I've shared on this podcast,

790
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: but um, just throughout the episodes. But uh, these kids

791
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: at my lunch table. I had such a huge crush

792
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: on this girl, Beth West and why why did you

793
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: have a She was just so I mean, like part

794
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: of it was that she was athletic and it was

795
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: like a little bit like Bush. But anyway, she was

796
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: like this half Asian beauty. She was like also like

797
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: just like a beautiful person. Um, and she was so funny,

798
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: and we sat the lunch table together every day, and

799
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: like I thought they were my friends, and then the

800
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: entire lunch table decided to be fun to pay bath.

801
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: She asked me out and date me for like a week. Girl,

802
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: I that is a similar tale to my spell Oh

803
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,919
Speaker 1: my god, Junior high schoo cool eighth grade. I had

804
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: this girl Vanessa. I don't know what her name was.

805
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: She had Vanessa, Vanessa, Vanessa, that's right, Vanessa Monroe. She

806
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 1: she was like a very let's say, developed girl. Her

807
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: boobs were gigant, I mean, like novelty size boobs. Down.

808
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: Titter sound, titters the house down. And um she asked

809
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: me out and I was like, yeah, of course sure.

810
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: We dated for three days and this other girl, Elizabeth Selero,

811
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: who I actually had a crush on because she didn't

812
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: give a shit about anything and her favorite movie was

813
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: Empire Records, And at the time I was just like, yes,

814
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: she gets me. Um. She come up to me and

815
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: she's like, you know it's a joke, right, It's a dare.

816
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: Vanessa dated you because they dared her to date damn it. Um,

817
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 1: But yes, not to co op this story experience, but

818
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: like we share a common bond, like what did monstrous thing? Vidio?

819
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: Kids are kids. Kids are the worst, they really are.

820
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: So when you started succeeding in improv in terms of

821
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: like the way you felt you were personally succeeding as

822
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: a person. So then you dove back into classes, yes,

823
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: fair to say yes, and then um talk about like

824
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: the rise of of of you, like of Scott, like,

825
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: because you really did become someone everyone knew. Um, I

826
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. I don't, I don't know.

827
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,919
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't answer that. Well, I can say

828
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: that you did, so it was do you think that

829
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: it was just because they did? And do you think

830
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: that it was? I just turned the mic and it

831
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 1: went do you think it was because you were emanating

832
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: a confidence and a positivity? And can you speak? That's

833
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: what it is? You know what? Here's here's the thing too.

834
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: When I was starting to do comedy, like fifty years ago, um,

835
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: I started a long time ago. Um, there was no

836
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: one like me. So I thought, my sort of comedy

837
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: is not valid. The things that I see on stage

838
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 1: are the only things that are funny with a capital F.

839
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: Right to me, that's not the way that I spoke

840
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: or communicated. So that means that meant like, if this

841
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 1: is true, then what like, then I am not funny messenger,

842
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: Like we saw the same kind of people, and you

843
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: know what kind of people I'm talking about the age

844
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Speaker 1: talking the same language, speaking the exact same way, and

845
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: having everyone just laugh up. Early when I would just

846
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Speaker 1: be like, I do not get this, do you know

847
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: what I mean? So I was like, oh my, I

848
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 1: am not valid. I'm not I don't exist in this world.

849
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: And that's fine. Um, I'm gonna find something else, you

850
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But when the moment where I

851
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: was like m okay was when I saw people like

852
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: Jeff Hiller, Jeff blessed up, someone named Jess Allen from

853
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: the People's Improv Theater, you know what I mean, Like

854
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: true individuals vision like literally stand out. They really do,

855
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 1: like stand out, like because they're humor is so different,

856
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: yes that you're like, wait a second, they're freaks, they're

857
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: weirdos just like me. And I understand this. Do you

858
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: know what I mean? I've seen I've seen people like

859
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: that make moves where no one laughs except for me.

860
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? You know what They're

861
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: up there and it's valid and it counts. We gotta

862
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: get deep into this, and we're gotta take a break,

863
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,799
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921
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,439
Speaker 1: guest Oscar Montoya super again. Now we were getting into

922
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: it a little before we took a break about um,

923
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 1: you know just how I hate to interrupt. It's been

924
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: what like forty five an hour and Matt has not

925
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: touched his muffin has been a lot of muff It's

926
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: still sort of just there. And it's how I ate

927
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: some of the muffin on the break. I didn't want

928
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: to have my mouthful and be quote unquote masticating, which

929
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: is a bow and yang asked vocabulary word if I

930
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: ever heard one? Sad disgusting. Matt Rogers is literally slapping

931
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: the face of Latin American culture by not by not

932
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: eating this peanut coloda muffin. How is that so? Because

933
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: we went to we went to a coffee shop around

934
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: the corner that producer Bratt and Amy recommended called Tirema.

935
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: It was gorgeous. I literally as I've been eating it,

936
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: and I've been savoring it. Use that on the s

937
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 1: A T S savor s A v O R okay

938
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: T word. I've been thinking to myself, what a gag

939
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,919
Speaker 1: this muffin is? Okay, Well, then honey, let's all try something. Okay,

940
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: let's all try. I don't mind at all. And also,

941
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm loving the strawberry lemonade tea. Do I

942
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: think I ordered too big of a size? Yeah, but

943
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: I do love it. You know, I'm having a hard

944
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: time tasting the pineapple I tasted a coconut. I guess

945
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: the cocon up. What the heck? Man, that's good what.

946
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 1: I love the muffin. I'm not saying that I don't

947
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,439
Speaker 1: love the muffin. I'm just saying, if it's a pina

948
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: colada muffin, where's the pineapples? A pineapple? But no? Oscar

949
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: clocked Matt earlier for not loving the muffin enough and

950
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: for not talking. You didn't eat the muffin top. The

951
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: muffin top had a lot of good peanut colt of flavor. Okay.

952
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: I was shocked when we walked into the shop and

953
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: its headset peanut colada. I was like, you were like

954
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: I must. I was like, I have to order them,

955
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: and said I have to. I actually can't be at

956
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 1: a restaurant without ordering a peanut colada. If they offer it,

957
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: is that's you, that's your drink. That's my jam. Peanut

958
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: clot over a bloody Mary. Oh, here's the thing. Here's

959
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: the thing about bloody mary. Though this is a good

960
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: sun moment. Okay, which one are you gonna drop off

961
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: a cliff? Bloody Mary. Commonly, when you go into a

962
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: restaurant and you asked for a bloody mary. They can

963
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: act like they act as if you're giving them a

964
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: hard time. Whereas a peanut colata very commonly will from

965
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: a machine ready made with the with the liquor already

966
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: in it, or it's just not a big deal to

967
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 1: put the liquor in the glass. They I very rarely

968
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: see people have to like put it in the blender

969
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: and actually make a pinic colada anymore. People places that

970
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: serve peint coladas to have them ready to go. Whereas

971
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: a bloody mirror you kind of have to put that together.

972
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: You can have the mix and a thing, but you

973
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: still got to put the alcohol in, and you know,

974
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: you have to garnish, and it's it's a whole it's

975
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: a whole adventure lamp. So what I'm saying to this

976
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 1: question is I would always rather have a bloody mirror

977
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: where no matter where I am. However, it's a difficult

978
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 1: question because I'm sometimes as someone that's in the industry

979
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: restaurants and I don't want to funk with them, and

980
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: also I don't ever want to deal with, you know,

981
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: being the person that's that person at the restaurant. I

982
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: never ever want to be the person that's keeping the

983
00:54:55,640 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 1: waiter standing there, which I said to you, yes today

984
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: you read me for film, because not for nothing. But

985
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: that was a frustrating situation. But you don't understand. There

986
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: is anxiety there when I have to order, because I

987
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 1: truly don't know. I paralyzed when there's too many choices.

988
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 1: I understand. And at a diner it's like that is

989
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: that is where I am tested, okay, because it's too

990
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: many Like, just tell me what to eat and I

991
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: will eat it as long as there's no onions are

992
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: peppers because I hate eating those things. You know what.

993
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: I have a feeling. I'm going to talk about this

994
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: in a little while. That's all. That's all I'll say

995
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: about that. Okay, Okay, let's put a pin on that.

996
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: Let's move on turn, honey. I was I was about

997
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: to like literally exalt at the feet of oprah improv

998
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: which is oh I, which is the opposite of Io.

999
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: But then he had stopped me and disrespected me about

1000
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: my muffinie on my own show. He has disrespected, he

1001
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 1: has disrespected at the hands and feet of the host.

1002
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: I will not I will not apologize. Let that beef.

1003
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. We are co host and as a

1004
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: co host, how do you feel that he just turned

1005
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: and disrespected He did not just put you in a

1006
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: tough place. He's putting me in a very heat. Put

1007
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,919
Speaker 1: you in a tough place. Not my co host could

1008
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: be disrespecting me, but Oscar. You you, you came for

1009
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 1: Oscar and his with his behavior at the diner yesterday.

1010
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: You came for me, but Oscar had to had to

1011
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 1: defend himself and you. For you to feel disrespected at

1012
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: a rightful retort is disrespectful. There's no excuse for your

1013
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: behavior yesterday. And also I'm going to call her out,

1014
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 1: Rachel Chapman. That giggling and laughing was out of control.

1015
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: And I was right on the brink. I was right

1016
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: on the brink. There was no reason for her to

1017
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: be laughing like that. I understand that it's He's part

1018
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 1: of her brand. The waiter turned to her and said,

1019
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: are you ready? And she laughed and it was It

1020
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: was inexcusable. But damn girl, you, like John Malcoms, the

1021
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: ship out of that you like went into the body

1022
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: of that waiter, and like you, you're like living his

1023
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: story right now. I live his story every Saturday. I

1024
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: live his entire story. Yeah who okay, okay, if it

1025
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: has to be me, it will be me. If the

1026
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: end of my life is telling the story of a server,

1027
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: that is my cross to bear. A story like my

1028
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: has never been told. Oh boy, there's a story behind

1029
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: that quote which we can not share. If we can't

1030
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: why why can't win? I mean we could? Should we?

1031
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: I just want to say this short story, the short

1032
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: version of the story is UM, Matt and I and

1033
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: David Mazzoni, previous guest of the pod Friends. David, he

1034
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: was there, and John Socolo was John Soccolo. We we

1035
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: just did a show in Chicago with popular lad years ago.

1036
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: This is like three or four years ago, a long

1037
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: time ago. And then we went to Berlin, famous Chicago

1038
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: gay night club. UM and David and Matt had sort

1039
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: of paired off with these two two strangers, and Matt

1040
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: has this whole fucking journey with the guy that he

1041
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: was with. But it basically I went back alone to

1042
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: the place where you're staying at John's place and Matt

1043
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: and I were sharing a bed. But that night I

1044
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: just had it to myself. I was like great, and

1045
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 1: then at four in the fucking morning, that's like I

1046
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: wake up to Matt crawling over me, wasted, and then

1047
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: he whisper. He leans down and whispers into my ear.

1048
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: A story like mine has never been. I did not

1049
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: do it in the accent. I pushed him off me

1050
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: and screamed, bloody murder. Let's just say it's a miracle.

1051
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: I'm not dead. It's a It was like an episode

1052
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: of Girls. But like probably if Lena Donald wrote this

1053
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: episode for her character and passed it into HBO, they'd

1054
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: be like, no, this didn't happen. Wow, anyway, Um, how

1055
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: do we get into this a story like my never ever?

1056
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: Told the servers, Um, I want to keep exulting at

1057
00:58:54,080 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: the feet of Oscar Montoya. Man, Yes, I'm listen. I

1058
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: I think there's so much to this idea of like

1059
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: when you're having fun, that they're having fun. And I

1060
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: finally learned that, like I think Amy Poehler said it,

1061
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: and that's what it was like super clear to me.

1062
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: But it was becoming very clear to me when there

1063
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: was people in my life, honestly, Oscar, like you, like

1064
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: Josh and Aaron, Um, you know, people that I really

1065
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: looked up to. Um, that we're succeeding and all of

1066
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: a sudden it just clicked to me. It was like,

1067
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: oh wow, yeah, like you can't give a fuck, you

1068
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: just have to do you, And that's that's got to

1069
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: be what it's all about. Here's the thing, too, we

1070
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: respect individual voices. It's not it's not even about like

1071
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: liking or disliking. We respect the voices that we know

1072
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: are true to them. I'm sure there are plenty of

1073
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: people who don't necessarily like what I do, like or

1074
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: like or or Matt or Oscar do, and that's fine,

1075
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 1: but like hopefully there is that base level of at

1076
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: least respect with like staying true to some something about us.

1077
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: You actually really influenced me um as a director when

1078
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: you said yeah. You were like, you're gonna come over

1079
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: here and then what you're gonna do is feel your fantasy.

1080
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my god. And something happened

1081
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: where I was like, I'm just gonna literally create my fantasy.

1082
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: And I was like, wow, if I think it's funny

1083
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: and I look confident doing it, like that's your fantasy.

1084
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: It's about creating an experience. It's about creating um the fun.

1085
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 1: But you're fun you know what I mean? Like, feel

1086
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: your fantasy and it feels real and authentic, and it's

1087
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: good to even say that out loud. It's really good

1088
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: to even say that out loud and remind yourself you

1089
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: have to feel your fantasy. And I give that note

1090
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: a lot when I'm directing girls because I know, I

1091
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: tell the young pirates because that's the note. It doesn't work,

1092
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: that is the note. Um, it works the people that

1093
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 1: are going to get it and people that are ready

1094
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: to hear it. Yes, because some people don't even know

1095
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: what their fantasy is. And but that's part of the journey,

1096
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like solidifying that fantasy

1097
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 1: and just living in it. You know who feels their

1098
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: fantasy too and lives in their fantasy, which we have

1099
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: to get on is Mike Calton feels his fantasy time.

1100
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: And he actually when I started to do I did

1101
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 1: a character one time at I think it was at

1102
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: the Grillness and I did this character and he was there,

1103
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: maybe he was also doing the show. And I got

1104
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: off and he came over to me and he was

1105
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: all he said was and he would never remember this,

1106
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: but he was like, I just want you to know

1107
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: it's working. It's working. Keep doing it. He's like, keep

1108
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: doing it. It's working. And that meant so much to

1109
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: me because I was like, yeah, I mean, this person

1110
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: is someone who's unapologetically himself and it's working. And so

1111
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 1: the fact that he told me that, I was like, oh,

1112
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: thank god, Yes, but it's it's like that. And then

1113
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: to see like you're you're like big sisters doing that,

1114
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: like that's very encouraging for sure. And I mean we've

1115
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: we've been we've been seeing the people who don't live

1116
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: that way, but like we'll project this identity and then

1117
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: just like play to that sort of thing, and it

1118
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: just reads is artificial, is not true, and it feels

1119
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: like work. And the last thing I want to see

1120
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: someone on stage doing is working. I don't want to

1121
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 1: see people working on stage. That's not fun. I need

1122
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: to see people living their lives on stage. That's all.

1123
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: That's all I want to see. It's not about funny,

1124
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 1: it's not about clever, it's not about smart. It really

1125
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 1: is all about watching people have the most fun on

1126
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: that stage for as long as they can and just

1127
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 1: being swept up in their fantasy the truth. Do you

1128
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 1: know what I mean? You literally do you feel your

1129
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: fantasy is part one, Part two. Gag yourself your own

1130
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 1: rule number rule number one of culture, Feel your fantasy.

1131
01:02:55,960 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 1: Rule number two of culture. Gag yourself, be your own

1132
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 1: net gag. This is when when the inevitable book comes out,

1133
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: be a pamphlet, honey, pamphlet. We're going to be the

1134
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: first people to successfully sell a pamphlets, right, this will

1135
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 1: be the selling culture since Thomas Payne, since common sense.

1136
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 1: It's common sense, that's right. Selling for the stars, bowing

1137
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 1: for this. We're going to start a revolution. Yes, I

1138
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: just feel like that. There's so much to that now,

1139
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: switching gears. Okay, that fast. Last night and this is

1140
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 1: literally filling your friends. Last night we did an escape

1141
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 1: the room. Oh yes, an escape escape escaped the room.

1142
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: Have you ever done? I have done. I've done a

1143
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: couple of escaped the rooms and honey to mix reviews,

1144
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: mixed reviews. This is what were this is This is

1145
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: your first one, first one ever. For me, this is

1146
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 1: like my fourth one. But once as soon as we

1147
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: told Oscar what we did last night, were enthusiastically to him,

1148
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: we said, we didn't escape the room. Last name was

1149
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 1: so fun. We should do in this week, Oscar, don't

1150
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: do it. I don't know about that. Don't do that.

1151
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: Tell us what's the team? What do you mean, what's

1152
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 1: the what's the shade? It's not about the shape. It's

1153
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: not about It's not about the Escape the Room. It

1154
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 1: really isn't. It's about the people and Escape the Room

1155
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: because it can be the best experience and also the

1156
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: most taxing journey you'll ever have. People's true selves because

1157
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: it is. It is about how you play this. It's

1158
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 1: about how you play the escape the Room. Do you

1159
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: play Escape the Room to literally escape the room, or

1160
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: do you play Escape the Room to just kick you

1161
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: with your friends? I key with my friends, and some

1162
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 1: people who play to Escape the Room do not appreciate

1163
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 1: the way I play, And so then you know, riffs happen,

1164
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 1: so do you? So what are you saying you would

1165
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: deliberately sabotage? I don't know. Girls don't like that. But

1166
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: I'm not reading you. I'm just saying, like, would you

1167
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 1: say that you play different? How is there else to

1168
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: play different besides not trying to win? No, it's just

1169
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 1: like getting caught up in like the d For me,

1170
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, there's like things to look at.

1171
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gagging in that world. I'm like submerged

1172
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: in that world. So I get lost. I'm like, look

1173
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 1: at this little thing. Oh my gosh, and they're like Oscar,

1174
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 1: pay attention, and I'm just like, okay, in a minute,

1175
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 1: but right now I'm really looking at these decorative tiki cups,

1176
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I do both if you

1177
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: because I feel like last night was both because there

1178
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: were a couple of people that were like, legit going

1179
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:25,439
Speaker 1: for it. Meanwhile, they said over the speakers like, hey, guys,

1180
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 1: if you find five eggs, you win a free game.

1181
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 1: So I was like, amazing, you guys do that how

1182
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 1: I play? That's me? That's me. And also there's a

1183
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 1: part of me too, like something about like just just

1184
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: games or any sort of competitive thing does bring out

1185
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: a thing that was dormant. And a lot of my friends,

1186
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm just like, oh, I didn't know

1187
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: you this way. And then they turned into like little monsters,

1188
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm just like, oh I do WHOA

1189
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 1: one snapped at me three times during the game. I

1190
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: feel I feel like, you know, not to pun but

1191
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 1: this this will be your Frankenstein monster moment. Like I

1192
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 1: feel like you would turn into a beast, and these

1193
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: escaped the room. In my defense, let me just say

1194
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 1: last night I really felt like I struck the proper

1195
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 1: balance between having fun with my friends and just doing

1196
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:13,439
Speaker 1: it for the sake of doing it and having fun.

1197
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: And this team worked exercise and working towards the goal

1198
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 1: of leaving the room. Now I am shocked at this allegation.

1199
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,959
Speaker 1: I snapped at Matt, there was no such thing happened, Matt,

1200
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: how dare you When I was turning the key, and

1201
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 1: we've been through it with keys this week because earlier

1202
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 1: in the week Bowen he gave I had the keys,

1203
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 1: was opening the door and he goes, wrong key, buddy,

1204
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 1: and I said, I have never heard you say the

1205
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 1: word buddy. He called me buddy, and I said to

1206
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 1: him and I quote, don't call me buddy, you condescending bitch.

1207
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 1: I have never heard you say buddy. Think about that quote.

1208
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: I just very nice. It was like, hey, wrong key, buddy,

1209
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: and you know, you know he and I know. And

1210
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: then Matt says, just Matt's pretty pretty hammered at this point, goes,

1211
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: I don't call me buddy, you condescending bitch. And here's

1212
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 1: the thing. We both meant every word that we said,

1213
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 1: and then it was fine two seconds later. But in

1214
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 1: that moment, I was like, how fucking okay, But an

1215
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 1: escaping room, when did I ever snap at you? There

1216
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 1: were a couple of times where you were just getting

1217
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: on edge and it wasn't about me. But I could

1218
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 1: tell that it didn't help that it was me because

1219
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: other people that were in the room. I don't think

1220
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 1: you would have been been comfortable being like no, no, no,

1221
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 1: this it was you. But because it was me you

1222
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 1: had you felt comfortable, which is fine. You felt comfortable

1223
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 1: being like Matt, no, that do it that way? And

1224
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, okay, wow, this is all about

1225
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 1: airing laundry between the two of you. Laundry. I'm not laundry. Listen,

1226
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 1: I'm not like, I'm not letting this stick to me,

1227
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 1: but like it didn't really happen like that. I don't

1228
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 1: know what was your what was your version of the

1229
01:07:56,080 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 1: events you were fussing around with the keys. I will

1230
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 1: be a limited time, like I go, Matt, it's not

1231
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 1: that one others sat fuxing around with the keys. That's

1232
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: tricky vocabulary. It's literally it didn't bother me because I

1233
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 1: was doing the wrong key, so I needed to be told.

1234
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 1: And there was one moment where I don't know, I

1235
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 1: don't remember the specifics, but like anyway, it did happen

1236
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: a couple of times where I was like, it doesn't

1237
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 1: matter to me at all, but like, did I clock that?

1238
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: It was like definitely Bowen Bowen's voice. I was like, okay, cool,

1239
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 1: he's you know, getting a little bit on the edge

1240
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 1: with me. Okay, but it was my first time. See,

1241
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 1: this is a lot of stress, a lot of stress

1242
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 1: that we don't need. I'm not stressed. I'm only stress.

1243
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 1: I'm only blessed, bless up. Look, Oscar, I agree with you.

1244
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 1: But also there are some people out there in the

1245
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:49,560
Speaker 1: third category who are just a hybrid of both, and

1246
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 1: I can I put myself in that bot. Okay, great

1247
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 1: that I think the three of us would slay. I

1248
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 1: think so too. Yes, how many people were in that

1249
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: room with you? Eight? It was too many? Exactly, Yeah,

1250
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 1: that's the thing. But we still made it out. We

1251
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 1: should say we did make it out. We had seventy

1252
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: five minutes to make it out. We made it out

1253
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 1: in six. It was the hardest room in the entire

1254
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: comfort that it was okay, So it was great. What's

1255
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,679
Speaker 1: the place, let's plug it. I think it's called sixty

1256
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: Escape or something, sixty room or something like that. It's

1257
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 1: on it's on okay, very big plague. It's on Santa

1258
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 1: Monica Boulevard. Um and yeah, that's it. Uh So anyway, Um,

1259
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: there's one called Grandma's House that was the Moss House.

1260
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:31,639
Speaker 1: So you go into this really nice, quaint, funny little

1261
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 1: grandma's kitchen, living room situation. And Grandma's left you a ladder.

1262
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 1: She says, I'm so sorry. I haven't I can't see you.

1263
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 1: But after your uncle, your grandfather, Cecil died. Um, I've

1264
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 1: been working on a project, on my last project, but

1265
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 1: um blah blah blah blah blah, and I can't come

1266
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 1: back to the house. So can you help me hang

1267
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:50,640
Speaker 1: the painture the pictures? And that's one of the and

1268
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 1: that's when it starts. Then you find out feel too much.

1269
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:55,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to real too much. But as you go,

1270
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 1: you took this you this is the room that you

1271
01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 1: want to see the room and we were in last day.

1272
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 1: But then as you there's multiple rooms that you work

1273
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 1: through and then a storyline unfolds that ends in a

1274
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 1: robbery of some sort and it's very exciting. And they

1275
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: played the music while was happening to make you feel

1276
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 1: like yeah, and he's honestly, that's I think what the

1277
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 1: gag was. It was like the Disney little Boy in me.

1278
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:17,560
Speaker 1: It was like that wants to feel that fantasy. And

1279
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 1: I felt very involved for sure. Oh it's like you're plugged.

1280
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 1: You're plugged into a movie at that moment. And yes,

1281
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 1: and so now we're kind of trying to find we

1282
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 1: want to do another one while we're here, and we're

1283
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 1: trying to figure out whether to do a scary one

1284
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:36,600
Speaker 1: or not. Our friend Colin sent us a listing for

1285
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:40,759
Speaker 1: one called The Basement, where it's literally like a fucking

1286
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 1: serial killer has bound and gagged you and he's thrown

1287
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 1: you in his basement. Oh and also he's a cannibal.

1288
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 1: Work your way out and it's like, oh, ship, but

1289
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,560
Speaker 1: like maybe that that like that's something that's happened to

1290
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 1: people that it's fine. I went to to actors, Um,

1291
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,680
Speaker 1: I love that. Anyway, I think I should do it.

1292
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 1: I think I think we should all do it. Yeah,

1293
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 1: I think I think paper Roulett's going to be here

1294
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 1: soon and l and we're going to do it. There

1295
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 1: was one that I went to where it was like

1296
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 1: mental asylum and I think it was just called asylum

1297
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 1: and it was like everyone had to get out of

1298
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 1: the room. But they were like, okay, one of you

1299
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 1: has to be locked into a straight jacket. So while

1300
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 1: they're doing what we're doing the puzzles, you have to also,

1301
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 1: And I volunteered. I was like me because you know,

1302
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 1: I am very like distracted by everything, So I was like, oh,

1303
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 1: this is a fun way to give me like a task.

1304
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm very like good if you tell me what to do,

1305
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I was like, okay,

1306
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 1: let me get in there. I got in the in

1307
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 1: the straight jacket. I was like great, So no one's

1308
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 1: gonna be mad at me if I don't do the

1309
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 1: work because I'm busy. I could always be like the

1310
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 1: straight jacket girl. I gota that straight jacket in like

1311
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 1: two seconds because you couldn't handle I just moved my

1312
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: arms around. That's it. No, it was the easiest. They

1313
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 1: locked it. But like the way a straight jacket is

1314
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 1: like you can literally just raise your arms and then

1315
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 1: you're then like sort of just like step out of

1316
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:59,600
Speaker 1: the straight jacket without unlocking the lock. So then I

1317
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 1: was just like, okay, okay, here we go, here we go.

1318
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:04,600
Speaker 1: But you know whatever that was really and so you

1319
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 1: were not for that one. There were moments, speaks and

1320
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 1: valleys because it's all but you're saying, it's all about

1321
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 1: the people. It's all about the people. Premises matter too,

1322
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 1: because there's only one that's an old failed record studio.

1323
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 1: But sometimes premises will disappoint you. Sometimes it's just like, oh,

1324
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 1: this the setup is perfect, and then it's like if

1325
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 1: it ends in a just a big fart in comedy,

1326
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 1: you premise that's the t that's that's true. And if

1327
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 1: it ends in the fart, that's how you know it

1328
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 1: sucks yea. And then that's when the edit comes and

1329
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 1: you're just like, I'm so sorry, right, but that out.

1330
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 1: But but what Oscar was saying about the people being like,

1331
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,600
Speaker 1: either they are very goal oriented to a fault, or

1332
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 1: they just want to have fun and kicking with their

1333
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 1: friends applies to stage, applies to the stage. Sure, and

1334
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 1: it was such a Now I'm thinking looking back, it's like,

1335
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 1: was it a really good experience? Because honestly, the eight

1336
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 1: of us that were in there, Like a couple of

1337
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:03,600
Speaker 1: us knew each other really well, but like there was

1338
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: people in the group that I don't know very well,

1339
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 1: and I wonder if that put the focus on the

1340
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 1: task instead of like this person is going to be

1341
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 1: this kind of person in there, and I know I'm

1342
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 1: gonna butt heads with them. But so that's interesting. That's interesting,

1343
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about, Like if we went

1344
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 1: with our close friends, the personalities would emerge and we

1345
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 1: all know the dynamics. So it's like you play out

1346
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 1: our friend click is filled with strong personality. There's no

1347
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:41,719
Speaker 1: one with a passive personality. You know, Well, yeah, actually,

1348
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 1: But the thing is, I'm kind of maybe it was

1349
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 1: my first is because it's my first time, but thinking

1350
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 1: about like how your true colors come out and the

1351
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 1: escape the room. I kind of surprised myself last night

1352
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 1: because I really was letting other people do everything and

1353
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 1: you were going to be more It's not about letting,

1354
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 1: it's more about like other people were doing something, and

1355
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 1: I was kind of like very much not jumping ahead.

1356
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,640
Speaker 1: Like I was the kind of person where when a

1357
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 1: door would open, I'd be the one to run to

1358
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 1: the door and say it opened. Okay, so let's think

1359
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 1: about it this way. In these escape the rooms, like

1360
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 1: the music is playing, you know what I mean? You

1361
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 1: feel like you're in a movie, right, and like it

1362
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 1: is like a movie. And with that being said, like

1363
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 1: what character would you play in this movie in the

1364
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 1: in an escape the room sort of situation, first victim

1365
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 1: Drew barrymore. Really that's my goal. That's interesting, that's that's

1366
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 1: a gag because I would I would say that you'd

1367
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 1: be like, okay, guys, focus up, let's think of a plan.

1368
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 1: I feel like you'd be very much that person. You

1369
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 1: know what. Maybe here's the thing. I take back my answer.

1370
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 1: I think I'm very much I'm very in my heart,

1371
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 1: I'm very much a director. So I guess like I

1372
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 1: would be the kind of person that, like, if I

1373
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 1: felt like something was going askew, I would be like,

1374
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 1: can we just focus back up for a second, we

1375
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 1: com you need to do this. Like I feel like

1376
01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:00,600
Speaker 1: if I were corral everybody. Yeah, And doesn't mean that

1377
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 1: I would necessarily be the one figuring out what to do,

1378
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 1: but I feel like in terms of keeping people on task,

1379
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 1: that is my personality and I do make decisions, but

1380
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:12,679
Speaker 1: that's not I mean, that's just just in my ordinary.

1381
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 1: If I don't know, escape the room is different. What

1382
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 1: about you? I feel like i'd be the person who

1383
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't say a single thing until everyone is stumped, and

1384
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 1: then I would say something and that's when I would activate.

1385
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? I'd be that kind

1386
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 1: of player. I mean, that's that's the kind of player

1387
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 1: I am. And these sort of escape the room things

1388
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,719
Speaker 1: when people when too many people are talking, I'm just like, okay,

1389
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 1: that literally too many cooks in the kitchen. I will

1390
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 1: not participate until people are just like, we don't know

1391
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 1: what to do. Then I'm like, okay, now now I'm

1392
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 1: of use. Do you know what I mean? So yeah,

1393
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 1: what about you? Bone? I'm a thirsty little fuck for attention,

1394
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 1: so I so I know. Um, I'm just trying to think, like, okay,

1395
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 1: how may be how would I behave in an improv

1396
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 1: group game? And I feel in group games I'm always like,

1397
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,639
Speaker 1: now I have the best fucking singer, and which is real?

1398
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 1: And like back when I used to do that, well

1399
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 1: you do have the best singers? No, no, no, no no,

1400
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: that's not the point I want. But part of me

1401
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 1: the way I behaved last night, was very like I'm

1402
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 1: going to pour over the small details that just for clues.

1403
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to help. I'm gonna be that tech support

1404
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 1: in a way. I was like there was like the

1405
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 1: in the in the Grandma room, like there was just

1406
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 1: a bunch of cookbooks and I just like flipped through

1407
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 1: every page just to see if there was something. And

1408
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, you guys figure that stupid puzzle out. Well,

1409
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 1: I figure out, like if there's anything in here that

1410
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 1: we can gather. He's very detail oriented. I was just

1411
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 1: like researching in that research but that's not a behavior necessary, No,

1412
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:35,600
Speaker 1: it is, and it's very helpful and that and you

1413
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 1: actually did. You actually were very hands on and detail

1414
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 1: oriented and like you were getting the minutia in Like,

1415
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:46,679
Speaker 1: for example, I think my personality is more big decisions

1416
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 1: and choices, and then the group kind of goes and

1417
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 1: does that thing. But I'm very rarely the person that's

1418
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 1: in the trench just figuring, like for example, like I'm

1419
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 1: the quote unquote director of paper Roulette. But like in

1420
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 1: terms of what makes the group, like in terms of

1421
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 1: the specifics what makes the group shine, like everyone else

1422
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 1: has like more specific tasks you think big picture, you

1423
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 1: think very much details. Yeah, that's great. This is a

1424
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 1: good combination the two of you. Maybe you both should

1425
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 1: do a scape room together and like see how you

1426
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 1: fare would we could we do a two person one

1427
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 1: people do? People do it by themselves there, people go

1428
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 1: in by themselves. That's that's bold that I don't think

1429
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 1: would be very fun. Our producer bets laughing because he

1430
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 1: just thinks it's sad as how. I don't know. I'm obsessed.

1431
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 1: I'm the kind of person that gets really obsessed with

1432
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 1: this kind of thing, like like you know, for you,

1433
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 1: because what Colin, our friend Colin said about you is

1434
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 1: that this was very Orlando was very immersive. It was

1435
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:50,600
Speaker 1: like taking you through this linear progression and with it,

1436
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 1: you know, And I think I think it is it's

1437
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:54,759
Speaker 1: like a little taste of the theme park where before

1438
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:56,679
Speaker 1: you do it, they sit you down to watch a video.

1439
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 1: Me too, I love that shape, me too. I'm all

1440
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 1: about that. She goes about it. The girl who was

1441
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 1: such a gag, the girl that was that was rubbing it,

1442
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 1: she was amazing. And she was like, Okay, well first

1443
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:09,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna sit down and watch a brief video. And

1444
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, yes, I was just so happy,

1445
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 1: and she was it's amazing because I think that they

1446
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 1: do have a hand in setting them up, right, Yeah

1447
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: she was. I asked her, was like, how long does

1448
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:22,680
Speaker 1: it take Free to reset that? Because it was a

1449
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 1: mess by the end of it was crazy lots of props,

1450
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,759
Speaker 1: lots of props and lots of like papers strewn everywhere.

1451
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 1: And I was like, how long does it take Free

1452
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 1: to reset this? And she was like, oh, I could

1453
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 1: do this and this is like a four room amazed

1454
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 1: mind you. She was like, I could do this in

1455
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:38,680
Speaker 1: about five minutes. And I was like, wowa, but think

1456
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 1: about it. I mean, at the end of the day,

1457
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 1: it's really just like this goes here, this goes here,

1458
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 1: this goes here totally right, totally, but if you miss

1459
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:47,719
Speaker 1: one thing, but if something is missing, and she said

1460
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 1: at one point she had to come over the last

1461
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 1: periogod and she was like, are you guys missing this object?

1462
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 1: And we were like yeah, and she goes, oh, right here,

1463
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 1: And I think it was something was supposed to pop

1464
01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 1: out more than it, but they're usually very good. Usually

1465
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 1: throughout the whole thing. It was like there a sound

1466
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 1: effect would accompany us accomplishing the task. That very Zelda.

1467
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 1: That's very cute. I loved it and now talking about it,

1468
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 1: I really want to do one again. We'll do it

1469
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 1: and Oscar scary one. Okay, I don't know the live

1470
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 1: actress thing. It's like I know, it'll either make it

1471
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:19,560
Speaker 1: great or it'll be Have you never been to a

1472
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 1: haunted house? I have, but like ones where it's like

1473
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 1: someone all they're doing is chasing you with a machette.

1474
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, well what what? What performed? I mean

1475
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 1: it's a performance, sure, but it's like I'm going to

1476
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:32,600
Speaker 1: be stuck in a room with this person, Like they

1477
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 1: better have materielle, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,

1478
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 1: I live for them, the haunted houses, my sister and Henry,

1479
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 1: and it's very weird, like I love to do the

1480
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 1: walk through haunted houses and I love them. Um, but

1481
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 1: I can't sit and watch like a stressful movie or

1482
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 1: television show. It's very bizarrely so stupid, um because I

1483
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 1: only like to watch stressful and scary stuff because like

1484
01:19:56,600 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, I've talked about this so much the pod,

1485
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 1: but like I guess when I'm sitting there and it's

1486
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 1: happening in front of me, like you're not doing anywhere,

1487
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 1: like at least in the Haunted house, I could run

1488
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 1: the funk away. Yeah. Um. But anyway, I went to

1489
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 1: Universal Studios for their Halloween Horror Nights and they do

1490
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 1: a great job. Yeah, I mean they had I think

1491
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 1: they announced it's coming back. They're going to do it.

1492
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 1: We should go in October and we should go next.

1493
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 1: Come come because my sister lives down there. She came over,

1494
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:28,759
Speaker 1: Henry and I went and we did all the haunted

1495
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 1: houses and they had a yag worthy American Horror story

1496
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:36,680
Speaker 1: house where there was they did I guess they did

1497
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 1: Murder House, which was season one freak show and hotel

1498
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 1: and so you know, there was a there was an

1499
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 1: angel La Bassett walking around them. There. Angel La Bassett

1500
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 1: jumped out at me with a knife and I literally

1501
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 1: said to her, I'm like thank you, Yeah, you're like

1502
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 1: I live. I was like literally this and they're so good. Yeah,

1503
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 1: oh they get the best. And I don't. I'm not

1504
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:00,040
Speaker 1: don't cut corners. No, I'm not an American horr a

1505
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 1: Story fan because like I said, I don't. I don't

1506
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 1: like to watch that ship. But my sister loves the show,

1507
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 1: and we got out of there and she was like,

1508
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 1: you guys need to watch that show to understand how

1509
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 1: much they just nailed it. Like every scene that was

1510
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 1: that you could remember from the show was in there,

1511
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 1: Like it was very specific. And also they because it's

1512
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:20,680
Speaker 1: universal and it's like movies and stuff, they recreate. There

1513
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 1: was one for the Exorcist, which is the only one

1514
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 1: we didn't do because my sister was like, I'm not

1515
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 1: doing any kind of health devil ship. The Exorcism ship

1516
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 1: really bothers my sister. A lot of people do a

1517
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 1: lot of there. There is a weird sort of like

1518
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 1: kind of like gradient of like when it comes to

1519
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 1: religion or like you know, God and the Devil, they

1520
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 1: won't get into it. But if it's like syrial killers

1521
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 1: or like werewolves and vampires and it's fair game, which

1522
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 1: is so funny to me. What's the biggest gag hard

1523
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:53,680
Speaker 1: movie for you we're talking about. I mean, you're getting it.

1524
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 1: Let's go asking for it. I mean, like, well kind though,

1525
01:21:57,600 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 1: because there's difference to give us, like can't be like

1526
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 1: gum sleepaway camp categories basket case. Okay, I gotta check

1527
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 1: that it's the best what about serial killer? Serial Killer

1528
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 1: sort of I mean a sleepaway camp is like my

1529
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:17,560
Speaker 1: favorite slasher sort of movie. Um, sort of like Exorcist

1530
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 1: is truly one of the I mean, it's basic as

1531
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 1: hell to say, but it truly is one of the

1532
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:26,760
Speaker 1: most scariest movies you'll ever see, just because the way

1533
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 1: that they dealt with the quote unquote scares of it

1534
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:33,760
Speaker 1: is so grounded that you're just like, oh my God,

1535
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 1: like this we live, we live in this world, you

1536
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Um, what's like, what's like your

1537
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:44,839
Speaker 1: favorite like thrillers, like psychological thriller. I guess that's specific.

1538
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 1: You don't have to flight plan. I was first saw

1539
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 1: Red Eyes great, Red Eyes good. I like Red Eye.

1540
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 1: I love Red Eye. See the first Saw I did.

1541
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:56,640
Speaker 1: I did like Saw. I did like the song. I mean,

1542
01:22:57,200 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 1: people a lot of people hate that sort of like

1543
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 1: torture porn stuff. I don't. I really I enjoy the

1544
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 1: torture stuff Eyes because I hate I do I mean,

1545
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 1: Human Centerpede I liked, you know what I mean. I'm

1546
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 1: into all that kind of stuff, gross disgusting stuff. I love.

1547
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 1: Oh my, I don't even basket Case is a movie

1548
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 1: directed by Frank hennin laughter. And I know this because

1549
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 1: I have a straining order against him. Um. Yes, man, okay,

1550
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 1: I never heard this. Yes, let's get into it. So. Um.

1551
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 1: In New York, I used to host a show called

1552
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:37,560
Speaker 1: Midnight Movies with Montoya that's my last name at the

1553
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:40,720
Speaker 1: pit and once a month, every Saturday, I would host.

1554
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 1: I would put up I would screen one of my

1555
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 1: favorite like be like movies. And for my birthday, and

1556
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 1: you know, I've screened like The Room and Mac and

1557
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 1: Me and like like those classics sort of like kind

1558
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:56,639
Speaker 1: of movies. And for my birthday, I wanted to screen

1559
01:23:57,160 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 1: basket Case. And in those movies, I used to get

1560
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 1: someone who worked in the movie to talk about it

1561
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:04,680
Speaker 1: and stuff. It's like very mystery science theater, didn't you

1562
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah wow. So in in um so for basket

1563
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:15,640
Speaker 1: because I got one of the actresses, Beverly Bonner, who

1564
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 1: is just a true gift to the world, and um,

1565
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 1: she she was like so excited and she's like, oh

1566
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 1: my gosh, I have to tell Frank about this because

1567
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 1: he will love uh. And then instead of loving it,

1568
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:29,600
Speaker 1: he sent me an email being like I do not

1569
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 1: approve of this, Like I don't want people to come

1570
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 1: into my movies and making fun of my work. And

1571
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:37,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, you don't understand you are my hero, Like

1572
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with all of your movies, Brain Damage, Frank

1573
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 1: and Hooker, like all of those are just like huge. Yeah,

1574
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 1: like and I'm like, it's actually just going to be

1575
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:49,639
Speaker 1: a celebration of your work, Like I just want people

1576
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 1: to like find out more about you. And he was like,

1577
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 1: I will get my lawyers involved if you don't stop.

1578
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, well, I much respect, but this

1579
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 1: is a legally I'm a loud to scream, you know.

1580
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 1: Um and sure enough, I gotta, I gotta. I got

1581
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 1: a letter that's like your heroes moment a little bit,

1582
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Yeah, yeah, but you know I I

1583
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:15,839
Speaker 1: Frank Kennon letter has emailed me. I have his email address.

1584
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:18,560
Speaker 1: I gotta let. I mean, like, I and why the

1585
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 1: restraining order? Um, I think that was his Like I

1586
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 1: think it was like he wanted to go further than

1587
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 1: a season desist, Like a season desist was not enough.

1588
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 1: What is humorless? Yeah? So um yeah, it's I mean,

1589
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 1: I think it's I mean, I don't know if it's

1590
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 1: like really is or just like a threat level restraining order. Um,

1591
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:46,560
Speaker 1: but I mean I I loved it. I mean I'm like,

1592
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I got to interact with one of

1593
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 1: my heroes, you know what I mean to like, yeah,

1594
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 1: I thought that you walked away from that experience, that

1595
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:57,639
Speaker 1: like kind of horrific legal experience, being like, at least

1596
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 1: I got to meet it for sure. Frank is like

1597
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 1: it says everything about you, and I love it. Oh

1598
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 1: my god, what's anyway? Okay, So the movie is about

1599
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 1: this guy. It takes place in like the late seventies

1600
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:11,680
Speaker 1: early eighties, and he um uh, he like goes to

1601
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:14,799
Speaker 1: the seedy sort of hotel in like pre Giuliani Times Square,

1602
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 1: so it's like very shady, you know. And he's carrying

1603
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: a basket with him, like a giant sort of like

1604
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:25,600
Speaker 1: um uh yeah basket, and like the tag is like

1605
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 1: what's in the basket because that's what everyone asks him

1606
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 1: and he doesn't want to say. And he's kind of

1607
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 1: like this weird sort of like mousie, like very just

1608
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 1: like easily excitable man. And what's in this bag. In

1609
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 1: this basket is his twin brother, Belial, who was a

1610
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 1: Siamese twin that when he was and he was just

1611
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:45,680
Speaker 1: it's literally a lump of flesh. Yeah, it's like a

1612
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 1: weird tumor monster that got Yeah, that is alive. So

1613
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:52,640
Speaker 1: when they were young, when they were younger, they like

1614
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:56,560
Speaker 1: separated these all these doctors like kidnapped him and his

1615
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 1: twin brother and separated them because he's like, I don't

1616
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 1: want my son being a freak to let's kill Belisle.

1617
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 1: But they didn't kill Belisle, and Belial and this guy

1618
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 1: have this sort of psychic connections like twins do, and

1619
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 1: so they moved. They moved back to kind of kill

1620
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 1: all of the doctors that operated on them. Uh, and

1621
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 1: then you know, hilarity goes down. But it's like one

1622
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 1: of those like movies that were made by made by

1623
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:23,719
Speaker 1: Like I mean, like the budget was maybe like maybe

1624
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 1: eight thousand dollars, do you know what I mean? Just

1625
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 1: like really just terribly done. Like I love that kind

1626
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:31,839
Speaker 1: of stuff, you know what I mean. My whole aesthetic

1627
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 1: is just cheap, ugly stuff Like John like Tacky Waters

1628
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 1: is like my hero of all time, you know what

1629
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Divine either Massy like those are my icons,

1630
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 1: those are my true icons, you know what I mean?

1631
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 1: Real quick, before we do I don't think so, honey.

1632
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:53,679
Speaker 1: RuPaul's Dragra Season nine thoughts, well, go, this is gonna

1633
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 1: come out a couple of weeks, so we're gonna be

1634
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 1: a little outdated. But I just think I can't tell

1635
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 1: if it's either I would say across. I would say, uh,

1636
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 1: in general, it's like an even season, like a lot

1637
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 1: of even playing field. But I can't tell if the

1638
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:11,880
Speaker 1: bar is low or if the bar is high. I

1639
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 1: truly can't. If it's like these really polished queens all

1640
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 1: competing on the same level, uh, and there's no like

1641
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 1: a huge outliar, or if it's a low bar and

1642
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 1: everyone's just bad. Right, I don't think everyone is bad.

1643
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 1: I think it's also like kind of too early to

1644
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 1: call it snatch game. By the way, exactly this pre

1645
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 1: snatch game, right. I think snatch game is a huge

1646
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 1: turning point when you're like, Okay, now, let's now, let's

1647
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 1: really compare seasons, because I think we're too I think

1648
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 1: we're not giving it. I know a lot of people

1649
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 1: are like, these queens are like you know what I mean,

1650
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 1: just like kind of like resting right now. But I'm like, yeah,

1651
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 1: but like what other season. Besides, I would say like

1652
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 1: eight and six were the queens like bringing it right

1653
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 1: from the game, you know what I mean? Like five

1654
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 1: Ship Sharon, is that the season? Okay, okay even but

1655
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 1: even like even that season, I think until Alaska was

1656
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 1: rough the first episode, you know what I mean, Like

1657
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 1: Alaska Alaska didn't activate for me until like way later

1658
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 1: in the seasure. I think that we're being a little

1659
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 1: hard on it. However, I will say this, the front

1660
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 1: runner right now from where we sit is we're gonna

1661
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 1: agree Valentina Valentiner is the front runner. I think she

1662
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 1: will not be looked back on well as as I

1663
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 1: stand out winner unless she really think she's gonna win.

1664
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 1: I think I think I think right now she's gonna well.

1665
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 1: I think I also think it's too early to call it,

1666
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I feel like, based on storylines,

1667
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 1: I feel like we have not really dug all that

1668
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 1: that that there is to Valentina. We haven't dug all

1669
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 1: there is to Peppermint. I think Peppermint still has to blossom.

1670
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 1: I feel like Peppermint is a contender, but like we

1671
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:01,160
Speaker 1: don't know that. No one knows that there's we know

1672
01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 1: that because we've seen Peppermint live and she is. She's amazing,

1673
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 1: She's amazing. When that doesn't come through, that's like a

1674
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 1: huge red flight. Also Amazing Life of Sasha Vlore and

1675
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 1: that is not coming through our Yeah, but the thing is, yeah,

1676
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 1: it's different to win that show. Yeah, it's different. It's

1677
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 1: like you have to have a specific set of skills

1678
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:22,160
Speaker 1: for a TV which is which is which makes it

1679
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:24,320
Speaker 1: all the more impressive that Bob is both amazing life

1680
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 1: and I know crazy, No, he was deserving winner. I

1681
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:30,840
Speaker 1: think right now, what is there eleven queens left? I

1682
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:32,680
Speaker 1: think the only for sure thing you can say in

1683
01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 1: terms of what's going to be the result is that

1684
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:36,800
Speaker 1: Valentina will be on the top three. I think there's

1685
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 1: no way. And then I think the rest of the

1686
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:40,760
Speaker 1: top three is going to be filled out by some

1687
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 1: combination of Kul Trinity Tailor Eureka O'Hara, and maybe there

1688
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 1: you have your Sasha Vlore maybe wow, no mention of

1689
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 1: Neo Bonina and Nina Bonina Brown, I was just gonna say,

1690
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 1: is the last one that I think could definitely be there. However,

1691
01:30:56,640 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 1: there's like there's something, Yeah, I'm worried for her, but

1692
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 1: I also relate to her, so much wild Card, so

1693
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 1: so so much wild Card alexis Michelle wild Um no, honey, no,

1694
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:12,760
Speaker 1: I mean like I love her. But also it's all

1695
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 1: about the editing too. It's like, who are the characters

1696
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 1: that we respond It's like, you know what I mean,

1697
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 1: it's already being forecasted and for sure as getting a

1698
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:26,639
Speaker 1: really featured edit. I think is an a Dore thing. Okay,

1699
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 1: And Henry, my boyfriend, is really pulling Fraja. He's like

1700
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 1: in the Aja camp. I love a because she's just

1701
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 1: a scrappy queen and I love girls that just like

1702
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 1: fight hard. Do you know what I mean? Who? And

1703
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:41,080
Speaker 1: and are? I mean like I just got that like

1704
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 1: sort of magic where she's a little bit delusional, which

1705
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 1: I like in my drag queens. I love that sort

1706
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:48,760
Speaker 1: of like not fully self Oh yeah, like not like

1707
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:51,760
Speaker 1: not even on this planet like reality wise, like is

1708
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:54,200
Speaker 1: not aware of how the world works. Like that's how

1709
01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:56,960
Speaker 1: I want my drag queens to be, like completely oblivious

1710
01:31:57,040 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 1: to the life's real tea. You know, I guess I

1711
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:03,680
Speaker 1: just want to be knocked flat on my ass and

1712
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:06,840
Speaker 1: it hasn't happened yet the only time I've been like,

1713
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:10,240
Speaker 1: oh my god is when Valentina came out on the

1714
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:16,160
Speaker 1: wedding dress, I was, I screamed, Yeah she's a look, yeah,

1715
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:18,920
Speaker 1: she's killing it. And also we have we in the

1716
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:21,680
Speaker 1: in the minor performance things we've seen and she's done well.

1717
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:25,560
Speaker 1: Yeah I've seen I've seen her live and she's truly fantastic.

1718
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:28,759
Speaker 1: The only one that's like really nailing it and everything

1719
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:31,559
Speaker 1: right now is Shakule And still I think she's only

1720
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:35,720
Speaker 1: an eight out of time and those girls don't win.

1721
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 1: But personality so much, very charming. Everything she wears, I'm like,

1722
01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:43,160
Speaker 1: I would wear that, I would wear that, I would

1723
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:45,600
Speaker 1: wear that. Yeah, she's looking great, she's she's like a

1724
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:49,720
Speaker 1: cattya a little bit very very likable, just like yeah,

1725
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 1: but fifth place, not like not like self deprecating enough,

1726
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:56,559
Speaker 1: I think sure. I was just like very real. Yeah,

1727
01:32:57,200 --> 01:32:59,400
Speaker 1: um great, it's time for I don't think so, honey.

1728
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:03,840
Speaker 1: Oh my, it is our moment to rail against culture

1729
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 1: for one minute. You take the culture into your hands

1730
01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:08,280
Speaker 1: and you destroy it. Oh my god, I don't even

1731
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:10,720
Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna say. Just wait, it comes to

1732
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:14,280
Speaker 1: you at the last minute. It's inspired. So I'll go first,

1733
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 1: and um, here we go. This is Yanks. I don't

1734
01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 1: think so, honey. And time starts now. I don't think

1735
01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:25,879
Speaker 1: so honey. Radio shack stores across America, Thank god, you're closing.

1736
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:28,360
Speaker 1: Good fucking riddance. I don't think so, honey. The radio shack.

1737
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 1: I went to you yesterday on Sun at Boulevard. I

1738
01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:32,120
Speaker 1: try to get a new chord, a lightning charger cable

1739
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 1: chord from my iPhone. Uh. The young lady who was

1740
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 1: working there, she was the only person working in that store. Uh,

1741
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:39,600
Speaker 1: you know, don't try to upsell fucking batteries at me.

1742
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 1: At the last, at the register, she gave me this chord.

1743
01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:44,639
Speaker 1: It broke within six hours, Honey. I don't think so honey.

1744
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 1: This girl, she seemed like a nice person, but she

1745
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:49,720
Speaker 1: was blasting most girls by pink when I walked in,

1746
01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:51,280
Speaker 1: And honestly, I was gagged a little bit because I

1747
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 1: listened to it on my way back. But I don't

1748
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:55,680
Speaker 1: think so, honey. You're selling me a shitty product, and

1749
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 1: it's unacceptable. I don't think so, honey. And I don't

1750
01:33:57,439 --> 01:33:59,640
Speaker 1: think you even have a return policy because you're close in,

1751
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:02,720
Speaker 1: We're you gonna keep all that over stock, Honey. I

1752
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:05,400
Speaker 1: don't think so honey, radio shock. I don't think so, honey.

1753
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 1: We don't need you anymore, Honey, we were living in

1754
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:09,800
Speaker 1: a cordless, wire free society. Honey, I don't think so, honey.

1755
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:12,720
Speaker 1: So good riddance, You're gone. Best Buy is the big

1756
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 1: monolith now, I don't think so, honey. I'm gonna best

1757
01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:18,280
Speaker 1: buy whatever I can best spies the gag best by.

1758
01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 1: I can buy some headphones and a phone case and

1759
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:27,479
Speaker 1: some differ Honey. Wow, you were very frontloaded, but you

1760
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:30,240
Speaker 1: went with what was in the front. Killed you were

1761
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 1: you were, you were swimming, and then you kind of

1762
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:38,800
Speaker 1: dog you. How dare you go ahead? No? I like it.

1763
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 1: This is I mean, I've I've never done this before.

1764
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:44,840
Speaker 1: This is I this cannot be easy. This I don't

1765
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 1: think so, honey. Is an art. In all art should

1766
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:50,439
Speaker 1: be critiqued, yes, but to be critiqued in this way. No,

1767
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:53,240
Speaker 1: I got it. Not getting some passion. I thought your

1768
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:57,880
Speaker 1: passion give us some distance, start Matt Rodgers. I don't

1769
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 1: think so, honey. Time starts now, don't think so, honey.

1770
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 1: Those of you who think it's a fucking joke. When

1771
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:06,439
Speaker 1: the waiter gets to you and you think it's your

1772
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:09,680
Speaker 1: time to perform, bitch, it's your time to order. I

1773
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:12,920
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. When I am sitting there and

1774
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get my order and I'm a hungry bitch,

1775
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:20,559
Speaker 1: I do not think it's funny, honey, when you are

1776
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:24,160
Speaker 1: trying to be cute with your menu and saying what

1777
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 1: do you like? I don't know. He is not there

1778
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:30,519
Speaker 1: to order. You are, and you've been given time. There's

1779
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 1: a reason when you sit your asked down in the chair,

1780
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:36,639
Speaker 1: they hand you the menu straight up front. It's because

1781
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 1: it's time to decide. And then when you start laughing

1782
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:42,160
Speaker 1: about how funny it is that you haven't decided, hang me.

1783
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:46,759
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I'm hungry. I'm not here to listen.

1784
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:51,559
Speaker 1: I'm here to order. And that server God is my witness.

1785
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:55,000
Speaker 1: He is not gagged for you. He's looking at you,

1786
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:57,760
Speaker 1: and he doesn't like you. None of you are cute.

1787
01:35:57,800 --> 01:35:59,679
Speaker 1: If you can't be concise at the table, I don't

1788
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:04,400
Speaker 1: think so. One minute. Oscar response, Ho, you really let

1789
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 1: us all have it? It's not cute, Oscar. Do you

1790
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:10,719
Speaker 1: have a response to that? My response is you're entitled

1791
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:13,360
Speaker 1: to your opinion, but that's not the way you went

1792
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:17,519
Speaker 1: down but okay, the way I had went down, you

1793
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:19,560
Speaker 1: gotta set the facts straight, girl, you gotta set the

1794
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:23,160
Speaker 1: facts straight. Whatever, you know, all right, All I know

1795
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:27,160
Speaker 1: is I was waiting. This is a contemptious environment. First

1796
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 1: of all. I just want to say that. I literally

1797
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:32,720
Speaker 1: was like, oh, the waiter came and he was like, oh,

1798
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:35,280
Speaker 1: you'd like to go first? And I said Matt, because

1799
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:37,000
Speaker 1: I was like, Matt knows what he wants. And you

1800
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:39,760
Speaker 1: literally were like, no, I'm not ready, Rachel. Yeah, which

1801
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 1: is a decision. That's a decision. So me saying no,

1802
01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:45,320
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm actually not ready Rachel, who had

1803
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:48,160
Speaker 1: said yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, I said she's ready

1804
01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 1: to start with her and then she was like and

1805
01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:58,280
Speaker 1: I was like, girl, come correct, come corrects, Rachel. Rachel Chapman.

1806
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 1: If you'd like to read by at this, please comments

1807
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:06,760
Speaker 1: comment below below because because I have a comment for

1808
01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 1: you at the dinner table and it is it is no, okay, wait, okay,

1809
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 1: never mind what what I was gonna get into, like,

1810
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 1: what are some things that people have been anything you want?

1811
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:19,680
Speaker 1: So it's like you can also have something selected for you.

1812
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 1: Oh sure, it's called the trollball, and you know that Okay, great,

1813
01:37:24,479 --> 01:37:26,960
Speaker 1: so you have something in mind? Yeah, yeah, okay, this

1814
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:30,040
Speaker 1: is Oscar Monty. I'm nervous. I don't think so, honey.

1815
01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:32,280
Speaker 1: I can't believe this isn't happening. I'm so excited. Oscar

1816
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:34,200
Speaker 1: mon twice, I don't think so many times starts now,

1817
01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:38,440
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Palm trees in Hollywood, California.

1818
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:42,560
Speaker 1: What the fund is your story? Okay, just palm trees, period, Like,

1819
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 1: what are you doing here? Okay, you are too tall

1820
01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:49,439
Speaker 1: to be trees? You're you've been, You've been around forever

1821
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:51,720
Speaker 1: since the dinosaur times. I feel like every time I

1822
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:53,400
Speaker 1: walk down Sunset, I feel like I'm in the fucking

1823
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:58,080
Speaker 1: Flynn Stones. Explain yourselves. Palm trees, I don't think so, honey.

1824
01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:01,000
Speaker 1: When the palm fronds falled down and might kill me

1825
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 1: by falling down on my head, I don't think so, honey.

1826
01:38:04,479 --> 01:38:06,880
Speaker 1: I've worked this so long to stay alive, and I

1827
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:09,320
Speaker 1: don't want to die in an embarrassing way by having

1828
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:12,519
Speaker 1: a fucking leaf fall on my head. I don't think so, honey.

1829
01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:15,960
Speaker 1: I read somewhere that rats live inside of palm trees.

1830
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:20,360
Speaker 1: What the funk is happening? Sweet, teeth. I don't want

1831
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:23,240
Speaker 1: rats to be living in Holly weird. Holly weird is

1832
01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:25,719
Speaker 1: weird enough, Honey's okay. I don't want to be walking

1833
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:27,680
Speaker 1: down the street looking at a palm tree and then

1834
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:30,040
Speaker 1: just seeing the rats of them all around me. I

1835
01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:32,720
Speaker 1: don't want to deal with that palm trees. No, you

1836
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:35,200
Speaker 1: need to be cut down because you're a liability. Why

1837
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:37,280
Speaker 1: are in you in Los Angeles? Why are you Florida?

1838
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:41,200
Speaker 1: Why are you in this world? Delete goodbye forever that

1839
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:44,560
Speaker 1: you got one minute and seven? But you know what,

1840
01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:49,679
Speaker 1: it was great, fantastic one. It's such a it doesn't

1841
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:52,000
Speaker 1: make sense to trees. How do you feel after it?

1842
01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:54,400
Speaker 1: I don't think so, Honey. It felt good. It felt good,

1843
01:38:54,479 --> 01:38:58,080
Speaker 1: and it wasn't, honestly, not what I was planning to

1844
01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:01,719
Speaker 1: talk about. The look. It was fashioned and you felt

1845
01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 1: your fantasy. And I have to say that at the

1846
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:07,559
Speaker 1: title of this episode, Phil, your fantasy. Oscar won tell

1847
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:09,800
Speaker 1: us just to do that. And you truly are a

1848
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:15,879
Speaker 1: beautiful person, So beautiful, Oscar. The beauty emanates from all corners,

1849
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:19,040
Speaker 1: stop it from all crevices, from all pits. That sounds weird.

1850
01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 1: I believe it. Oscar is very special to us, and

1851
01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 1: we flew here for this, for this. I miss you

1852
01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:31,080
Speaker 1: guys so honestly, truly, truly, truly, truly, I know it's

1853
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 1: such a good vibe. Do you know what I mean?

1854
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:34,680
Speaker 1: I was literally do you not remember me saying that

1855
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:37,960
Speaker 1: two days ago? We were all working doing a stuff,

1856
01:39:37,960 --> 01:39:41,640
Speaker 1: and I was just like my children were home. I

1857
01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:43,479
Speaker 1: felt a very at ease, do you know what I'm

1858
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:46,120
Speaker 1: mary natural? It was a natural, and it just was like, right,

1859
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:49,400
Speaker 1: we're all here, we're all creating, We're all like fighting

1860
01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:53,000
Speaker 1: this fight together. You could even say that we're blessed.

1861
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:59,679
Speaker 1: We have everything that's in me blessed. Come on, father Senda,

1862
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:15,360
Speaker 1: yes you show man. Wow, this is the last cultures.

1863
01:40:15,439 --> 01:40:19,000
Speaker 1: My name is, My name is Matt Rogers, and that

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