WEBVTT - Larisa Oleynik Meets World 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:24.520 Recently, I saw a tweek by an American rapper named 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:28.920 d DG and I thought, this is this is I 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:30.840 want to know what will and writer think about this? 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:36.120 Would you rather know how you're going to die or 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:38.120 when you're going to die? 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:43.239 Oh, I'm happy knowing that I'm never going. 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:46.760 To Now that's wonderful for you when that sounds miserable 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:47.040 for me. 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:51.400 But yikes, all right, So if you know how you're 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:55.120 going to die, you can prepare for what you know 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:58.520 because if it's something awful, like you know, eaten by 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:02.600 a shark, okay, and you know that well, but you can't, right, 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:05.520 you can't avoid fake. That's that's part of the idea 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:09.320 stipulation here. So yeah, I guess you could prepare for 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:12.920 the how. I think i'd rather know how, because if 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:15.200 it was bad, I'd like to prepare for that so 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:17.400 I can like know that, oh I'm going to be 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:19.000 falling off a cliff and it's going to be those 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:20.280 are going to be the final moments and come to 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:23.360 peace with that. Yeah. 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:25.680 I don't know. I disagree. I think I'd want to 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:29.920 know when. Yeah, because a if it was something like 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:34.479 say a car accident, then every time you have such 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:38.120 a fear of being in a card, you know, whereas 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:40.440 if it's just when, then it's like I can prep 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:42.560 what I need to do, you know. I think of 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:46.680 was it Three Billboards where the worst. 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:48.080 Movies I've ever seen in my entire life. 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:53.040 But the way he did his last day where he 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:55.000 was just like he didn't let anyone know what was 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:57.880 going to be his last day, but he just had 0:01:57.920 --> 0:01:59.920 moments with his wife, had moments with his kids, and 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:00.600 what he had to do. 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:04.360 There's something about that where it's like I wouldn't. 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:08.200 Tell anybody else, probably, but I'd make sure I'd have 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:10.240 moments with everybody that I wanted to have moments with, 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:11.960 but I wouldn't want to know how when. 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:15.760 Yeah, yeah, I think I would want to know when 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:18.680 for the same reason because I do think being a planner, 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:22.320 i'd want to know, Well, let's figure out what on 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:25.480 my quote unquote bucket list are really important and how 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:28.440 much time do I have to do those things? And 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:31.160 how can I maximize the amount of time, Like if 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:34.480 my number one thing is time with my children or 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:37.239 experiences with my children, I want to be able to 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:38.799 start doing those things immediately. 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:41.040 And also I always. 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:42.880 Love when you hear a story of like somebody who 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:44.960 knew they were dying, they had a terminal illness or something, 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:48.520 and they actually plan something out, like for a letter 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:52.080 to be delivered later or a message left behind after. 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:55.440 And I think, Man, I hope when it's my time, 0:02:55.720 --> 0:03:01.000 I feel decent enough, because that's this really truly the 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:03.360 worst part about when you're sick and you die is 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:06.359 that you don't feel good enough to experience those things 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:08.040 you know, like you think you're going to want to do, 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:10.600 like well, eat all the ice cream you want or 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:12.440 do all that, and it's like, but the truth is, 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:13.359 you don't feel. 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:14.960 Like you're not going to do any of that. Yeah, yeah, 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:15.480 you're not going to. 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:17.840 Do any of those things. I'd want to do those 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:19.960 things while I still feel good. 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:21.880 So you know that there are websites that you can 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:25.400 go plug in info and it'll tell you when you're 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:28.360 going to die, Like if like statistically you can get 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:31.480 the date and the year. I want to do this 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:35.160 because I don't know if you know, like exactly the 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:39.240 year like twenty sixty something or whatever. I guess let's 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:42.040 say forty years. No, that's not about you know, somewhere 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:45.280 somewhere between twenties sixty and twenty eighty. We're talking is 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:46.760 when we're gonna go. 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:47.360 Right, right. 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:52.240 So I was a heavy smoker and probably didn't take 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:52.800 care of myself. 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:55.000 So I'd be lucky if I make it to my eighties. 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:57.040 So if that year you can go, you know, you 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:58.800 can start working backwards from that now and be like, 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:02.720 all right, have you seen speaking of that? 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:04.600 Have you seen the It's one of my favorite things 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:06.480 in the world, and so something that I would do. 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:08.200 Have you seen the video? 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:09.320 There is an. 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:12.480 Irish man who passed away, and right before he did, 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:17.479 he recorded his voice, so as they're lowering the casket 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:21.280 into the ground, it's his voice going, hey, let me out. 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:24.479 It's dark in here. Oh come on, what are you 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:24.920 guys doing? 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:27.960 You're just standing around and everybody's trying to mourn, but 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:32.800 they're laughing hysterically because it's actually his voice just going. 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:33.640 Why are you still loring me? 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:34.719 Someone opened a. 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:37.599 Door like it was hysterically fun and he did it 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:42.120 on purpose, so that everybody's just laughing hysterically as they're 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:44.919 trying to be there where there's something so wonderful about that. 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.839 Yes, I do love that. I also I just was 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:49.560 thinking about the flip side of it. Let's say you 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:52.479 find out you're gonna die in ten years. That then 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:58.719 that year, just imagine every day you're like the morning, 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:04.679 he'd just be like, and every time you do anything 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:05.960 you cross the street, am I gonna. 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:06.440 Make it a wor car? 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:11.960 You'd have to know the exact moment, you know, like yeah, 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:15.560 because otherwise yeah, yeah. The same with how, like because yeah, 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:16.960 I think you guys are right if you knew just 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:20.000 the how and it was something like trying down the stairs? 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:22.480 How could you go through? How do you ever walk downstairs? 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:25.880 But then isn't there isn't there the philosophical argument then 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:28.280 that you should live your life as if it's going 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:31.040 to be tomorrow anyway. So you're telling the people that 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:32.960 you love that you love them, you're not wasting the 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.919 time your you know, they say that nobody, you know, 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:38.280 nobody sat you know, was lying on their deathbed and 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:39.960 saying I wish I worked more, I wish I did 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:41.400 this date. It's always I wish I spent more time 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:42.720 in my family. I wish I told this person that 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:43.200 I love them. 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:45.400 So all right, guys, let's quit the podcast and just 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:46.599 start telling our families. 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:48.040 We love them well, we. 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:51.719 Can do both. This doesn't work. I love this, I 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:53.720 love it, and I love you both. I love you, 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:54.640 I love you guys. 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:56.040 We love each other. 0:05:57.240 --> 0:06:00.159 Don't diet be Today's. 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:05.239 Welcome to Pod Meets World. 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:08.240 I'm Daniel Fishel, I'm Writer Strong, and I'm Wilfordell. 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.640 If you've listened to Pod Meets World since episode one, 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.720 then you know there have been a handful of fellow 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:29.760 child actors whose names repeatedly pop up, from Jonathan Taylor 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.920 Thomas to writer's brother Shiloh to Andrew Keegan to Jason 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:36.000 Marsden to Genevan Oi. While some of you listeners grew 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:39.000 up amongst a high school clique, we had something kind 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:42.080 of similar, and one member of that crew, a lifelong 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:46.479 friend of writers, Larissa Olenik, was a vital mainstay. Larissa 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.080 began her acting career on stage in a San Francisco 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:53.320 based touring production of Le Mizerab, which should sound familiar 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:57.520 because it's also where a young baggy pants wearing former 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:01.960 rollerblader from Sebastopol started his journey to Hollywood as well, 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:05.640 and after running around a theater Willie Nilly and becoming besties, 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:08.960 with Writer, she'd travel between northern California and LA to 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:12.080 audition for TV and movies, where she'd eventually land a 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:15.360 role on Doctor Quinn, Medicine Woman, and the rest is history. 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:18.240 She'd turned parts in The Babysitters Club and all that 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:21.920 into iconic titular role on the Secret World of Alex Mack, 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:24.480 and soon after she'd be sharing the screen with a 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:27.240 young Heath Ledger in the classic Ten Things I Hate 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:29.600 About You. She was more recently seen with her own 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:32.600 story arc in a little show called mad Men, and 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:36.080 return to Family TV for Netflix's Aaron and Aaron in 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:39.520 twenty twenty three. But today none of that is important 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:43.080 because we are focusing on her time as Sean's first 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:47.280 love interest Dana Pruitt on the TGIF family sitcom Boy 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:50.200 Meets World for season three's The Heart Is a Lonely 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:54.440 Hunter and Stormy Weather, and an eventual return for season five. 0:07:54.960 --> 0:08:02.320 So welcome to the podcast. Writer Strong's Bay Area boyhood, Bosom, Buddy, Larisso, Lene. 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:06.880 A lot of bees, very literative, very literative literation it. 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:14.320 Boy Meets World hat, You have a I don't have 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:15.400 a Boy Meets World hat? 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.920 Unbelievable? Was that the cast and Kruegift for season three. 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.160 I don't know you. 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:26.320 I'm so jealous you. 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:29.880 Have that hat. I love awesome. That's so cool. 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:30.720 Oh my god. 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:36.200 Hi, we have heard so much about lame Is on 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:39.240 the podcast and the important role that it played in 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:42.680 both of your lives. So I want to know what 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:46.319 was nine lesbian Ryder strong. 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:50.440 Boy meets World hat and. 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:53.319 Stole it? 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:54.520 I hope you. 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:58.280 Stole it shield me from how vulnerable this is probably 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:04.160 about to get. Nine year old writers strong? Was? I think? 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:06.240 Where are you right now? Writer? 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:10.240 I'm in my parents' house. Yeah, so I'm in the 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:12.680 I'm in where my grandmother lives. So I'm in the studio, 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.079 the guest house. So this is like the first window 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:17.600 that the house is that way. 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:22.000 Yeah. Daniel's question was, what was nine year old writer 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:22.679 strong like? 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:23.160 Yes? 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:25.880 What was nine year old thesbian rider strong? 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:26.120 Like? 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:28.199 Did you guys become instant friends? 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.880 I don't. I mean the four of us were pretty 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:38.040 inseparable because you know, two girls, two boys around the 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:43.160 same age. It was all of our I believe, like 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:45.360 first big things. 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:45.960 Yeah. 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:50.040 I got the job because my godparents on ad in 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:53.080 a newspaper, right, and I was like this sounds cool, 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:57.840 let's go do this. So I think even I don't 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:01.560 know Danielle, we can relate on that. I found my journal, 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:07.400 Oh no, with me were in my storage unit because 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:09.560 I just moved out of my mom I just moved 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:11.439 out of the house that I've been in, like similarly 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:12.920 to the Shire, the house that I've been in my 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:16.320 entire life that houses all the artifacts. So we just 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:18.000 moved out of there, and I think it ended up 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:20.800 in storage. But I definitely found my journal from when 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:25.240 I was eight years old. I was I also had 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:31.920 a very large crush. 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:33.880 Everyone with right, just a crush strong. You happen to 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:37.320 have known no, no, not when when we were on 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:41.000 when we were doing Late Miz. Yes, I guess so 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:42.080 you remember me. 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:45.920 Like forcing you to hold my hand. 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:49.880 Yes, let's jump in. I feel like there were moments, 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.560 there were times when like we we all, like I remember, 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:54.599 we would all like admit that we had crushes on 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:56.640 each other. Like there was a moment where like Sabrina 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.000 and I we were both and I had a crush 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.400 on each other, and then that changed. So I feel 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:03.720 like it was just kids stuff. Yeah, we were nine 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:04.800 ten and. 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:07.680 This was this was this is what I found in 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:12.960 the journal that everything was like today, I gave Writer 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:15.760 a handful of Eminem's and he didn't say thank you. 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:25.440 But when Sabrina also very very close, I like she 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:28.560 and our Instagram friends, Writer like she also like seems 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:30.560 exactly the same to me, like, you know, we're just 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:35.480 we're not like having a conversation, but like we're in touch. 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:38.720 But yeah, she and I were also very close, but 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:40.760 like I just I feel like I pretty much just 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:45.320 spent that entire time pining in desperately. 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:47.840 Were you also randomly in love with a guy named 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:52.120 Dave or David? That's what we found out in Danielle's journal. 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:55.760 I loved and David and I. 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:58.800 Didn't know David was You don't know what it was. 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:02.080 I did, but now I realized it was David Letterman, 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:06.640 I was a weirdo. Let's not go into my journal. 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:12.439 So this is about you. It's about all about that. 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:15.480 I love that. 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:18.480 Very similarly, though, you did not hate Sabrina because I 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:23.080 did not hate Rachel. I was like, man, Rachel's so cool, 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:24.640 and Writer loves her so much. 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:32.120 I can hate Rachel. You're like Rachel, She's got the 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:35.640 coolest style, she's so ready. I know I spent I spent. 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:37.360 I feel like I spent the majority of Leman's and 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:44.120 years afterwards just being like there he is never to 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:48.600 be mine. Narrative like that I have sort of like 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:52.000 continue to slap myself into in various different circumstances in 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:52.480 my life. 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:56.640 Did you know he had a pony, Susie the pony? 0:12:56.760 --> 0:13:00.800 I don't remember. Okay, remember a lot of but I 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:02.960 don't remember. I don't remember the pony. 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:04.000 Did he ever give you. 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:04.680 A white rose? 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:05.480 No? 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:08.160 Okay, all right, just these are just things I needed 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:08.400 to know. 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:11.560 Well, he's basically married by the time he was twelve, when. 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:15.079 I'm so curious because you seem warmed up. 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:21.640 How I want to talk about nine year old Larissa 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:25.199 because I feel like, let's let's see, she was amazing. 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:28.480 She was so talented, like and I remember like that 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:31.600 was that was the thing about doing le Midis at 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:35.840 that age, is like you knew which kids had something, 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:40.360 and like Larissa like immediately was just amazing, a great singer, 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:44.120 a good actor. And then like, yeah we stayed in touch. 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:46.360 Was it did you start going to Bruce's class like 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:48.720 right away? Or like how did we keep acting around 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:50.840 it because I remember then going to doing acting class 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:54.800 with you somewhere and being like, oh, God, Larissa's amazing, 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:59.360 like so talented. And then yeah, I did know that. 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:02.480 I mean that wasn't I mean, I certainly didn't well think, 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:04.640 I mean, I guess, thank you, but same like I 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:09.600 always I always knew writer was good. Like it's just something. 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:11.920 It's so funny that even at that age, I'm like, oh, 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:15.880 that kid's good. And then yeah, when we were in class, 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:18.120 I think I just followed. I think my mom and 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:21.960 I just followed you and your mom wherever you guys went. 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:23.800 Basically I was like, oh, you're going to this class, 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:25.880 we'll go to that class. Or you have this agent, now, 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:26.640 we'll have that agent. 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:28.320 Yeah, well that's what I felt like. We were on 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:31.040 this journey together. Yeah, it was like our parents were 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:34.200 helping each other and like navigate this crazy thing. Like yeah, 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:36.000 and I remember when my mom broke her leg, like 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:39.080 your mom basically took care of her for six weeks 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:41.280 at the open Oh, we were like cause we were 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:44.440 like this little northern California crew of like actors, and 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:46.680 we like no one knew what we were doing, like 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:49.480 our parents like in retrospect, it's insane how much they 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:52.400 took on. And so like we were each other's family, 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:54.440 like going down to LA and like doing this thing, 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:56.600 and like there was this constant check in of like 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:59.640 are the kids okay? You okay? You know, and but 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.680 a lot but that came from also, like I know, 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:05.800 like for me, Larissa stood out as somebody because there's 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:07.680 a lot of kids doing this who you would watch 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.880 an acting class and be like, Okay, well you're doing 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:12.520 this because your mom wants you to or your dad 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:16.720 you know, maybe there's not an animating talent here or something, 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.240 Whereas like with Larissa, that was not the case. It 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.560 was like, oh, this is a real actor, and this 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:22.920 is somebody who's going to be doing this for the 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:25.120 rest of their lives. And like, I don't know, I 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:27.040 think we found that in each other, and our parents 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:29.720 found each other, and like it was just such a supportive, 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:33.000 amazing friendship to have moving into LA. 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:35.800 I think our mom's just talked on the phone very recently. 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:36.080 Writer. 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:40.880 Yeah, It's like they were definitely like each other as 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:44.440 touchstones for sure. Like I remember that about Marla specifically too, 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:45.000 that I was just like. 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:47.720 Yes, another NorCal so talented. 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:55.680 So Writer's family they help you get set up with 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:58.680 an agent, and that's obviously pretty easy because, like Writer mentioned, 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:01.680 you're an incredible talent. So you get an agent and 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:04.760 then you book the lead in the Secret World of 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.920 Alex Mack and you're just twelve years old. Were you 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:11.160 then intimidated being the lead in a show at such 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:12.280 a young age? 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:15.320 I mean, the funny thing about that is that, like 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:19.680 we've been coming down for pilot season for at least 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:22.760 two I think I booked Alex Mack when it was 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:26.000 the August version of pilot season, so probably two and 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:28.440 a half years at that point, which like two and 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:29.640 a half years from nine. 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:32.840 To Yeah, you're burnt out, washed up already. You're like, 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:34.040 why hasn't this happened yet? 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.320 Right, this is what I said, you. 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:40.920 Already you'd already gotten Women's World yep, and like other 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:46.240 people's careers were taking off, I did not get the 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:47.000 part of Tapanga. 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:49.880 Oh you auditioned, You auditioned for Topanga? 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:57.120 Why did not? I did not make it very far, 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:59.000 but I think I got a callback and that was 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:00.720 one of those that I was just in the backseat 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:03.240 of the car with my mom just like shoveling ice creaming, 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:04.280 like it's over. 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:08.600 I got a call back and I didn't. 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:12.800 Oh man, but you got the part. You got the part, 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:14.760 kid got the part. 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:19.280 But yeah, I know, I remember, like I remember all 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:22.760 of the heartbreak sort of leading up to it, or 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.800 really just the sense of like it's just the math 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.080 of it all, which I think I still do where 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:29.560 it's like, you know, I'm like, well, it's been a 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:32.320 second since I've booked something. It's either completely done for 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:35.720 me or something's around the corner. And that was sort 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:39.399 of like how I went into that whole experience, and 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:43.400 I think I was at that point in my career 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:45.680 as a twelve year old. I think I was sort 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:49.200 of ready to call it and I got the show. 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:53.960 But then, you know, as Natanya mentioned on her I've 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:59.560 listened to a lot of the episodes. Guys. It's been 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:04.359 incredible therapeutic, let me tell you. There there was a 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:07.440 big gap in between us doing the pilot and doing 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:09.800 the first season. I think about a year at least, 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:12.760 and there was a lot of shuffling. So I think 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:16.119 with all of that, it just the reality of it 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:20.080 didn't really sink in. Honestly, it was just kind of like, Okay, 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:22.600 we're shooting the pilot. We'll see if you get called 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:25.359 back for the first season. We'll see if the first 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:31.159 season does anything, we'll see. So I don't know. I 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:33.080 don't know that I felt that the pressure of being 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:37.000 the lead on a show until maybe later after we 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:42.199 started doing press and stuff, and yeah, I think at 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:45.360 that point I was just sort of in the routine 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:50.040 of it, in the routine of like cautiously optimistic but 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:53.760 preparing for the worst, like, well, maybe I'll just go 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:54.720 back to school. I don't know. 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:59.800 Can anybody think of any other career ever where you can. 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:04.000 Be and like, I think I'm done with this at twelve, 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:08.159 But it is it's like it's maybe, yeah, maybe, like 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:11.360 if it's something, if you're some sort of athletics, gymnastics, 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:13.800 something like that. But to be in some kind of 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:16.200 lifestyle where you are eleven or twelve, you're in the 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:18.439 routine of I'm going to another audition. 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:21.840 No, oh God, more disappointment and even more agonizing than sports, 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:27.200 because in sports there's measurable, quantifiable level like measures of success, 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:29.840 like you can run faster than anybody, You've won so 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:32.560 many games, whereas with acting, you could be slamming your 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:35.320 head against the wall and have no talent, no ability 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:37.879 to book jobs, no way about. You'll keep you have 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:41.280 the passion, you keep trying it. So you're also constantly looking, 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:43.800 So you're seeking evidence of whether this is the right 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:47.719 choice or not, some sort of validation, some validation something. 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:50.080 Your parents are, you know, looking for that validation too, 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:52.760 because they're committing their time and money and energy towards 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:55.440 Oh my god, like you know, so, yeah, it does, 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:58.320 it's it's it's a it's an incredibly strange pressure to 0:19:58.359 --> 0:19:59.360 have as a teenager. 0:19:59.440 --> 0:19:59.640 Yeah. 0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:00.000 Yeah. 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.640 Do you remember though, where you were when you found 0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:07.720 out you got the role? No, so you were by 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:10.680 that time you were already like, well I booked a job. 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:12.240 But we'll see how this goes. 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:13.800 Yeah, I mean I don't. 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:16.840 I mean, I don't know if it was that extreme necessarily, 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:23.360 but you know, honestly, if we if we really want 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:25.760 to talk about it, there probably was some sort of 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:30.400 like protective mechanism in me that like, you know, either 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:32.720 knew not to get too excited because it might be disappointed, 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:38.080 but maybe even more was like, oh your life might 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:45.159 change and better to you know, dip like ease into 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:50.800 the water slowly, and you know, I think that maybe 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:54.160