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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey

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Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and

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Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in

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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or

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Speaker 1: scripted as well. I know, look as I'm like cleaning

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Speaker 1: my throat.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be that kind of a day already.

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Speaker 3: Like we're like, yes, yes, all the flaming out so

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Speaker 3: rain drops.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you're in the middle of what elections I go

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Speaker 1: through on a weekly basis, which is like we just

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Speaker 1: have fun before we get started. So hey, alexis hi,

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Speaker 1: Hi everybody.

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Speaker 2: I'm just rolling. I've been watching my I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna roll up my sleeves. Here they look better. See

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Speaker 2: they look cuter like that, see little do a little fashion.

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Speaker 3: You look good. You look good.

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Speaker 2: I looked tired. We got home late, and yeah, it

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Speaker 2: was a long day last yesterday.

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Speaker 3: So so talk to me.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they'll tell me all about Yes, you were at

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Speaker 1: Tamra and Katie's Reunion Park One watch party.

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Speaker 3: So tell the rain Drops all about it. First of all,

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Speaker 3: you look amazing at the party, girl, Well.

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Speaker 2: It's leftover hair kind of. All I did was throw

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Speaker 2: it up a little higher because I'm like dude, I

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Speaker 2: am and I barely flop some makeup on. But thank

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Speaker 2: you for that. I look very tired, but anyway, it's okay.

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Speaker 2: It was so much fun. I cannot believe Carlos the

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Speaker 2: support that Katie and Tamar had. The line was literally

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Speaker 2: out the door for them to take picture. They had

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Speaker 2: this whole thing set where they could take pictures out

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Speaker 2: door for the entire first two hours, and then every

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Speaker 2: time they get done taking a picture with them, they'd

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Speaker 2: walk over to John and I and want a picture

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Speaker 2: with us. So it was almost like a two light

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Speaker 2: step process. It was like Katie and Tamara taking pictures

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Speaker 2: over to Alexis now we want it was. It was

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Speaker 2: a lot of support shown and people that just you know,

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Speaker 2: really they do love Katie and wanted to you know,

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Speaker 2: extend that obviously, and they loved Tamara too, even though

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Speaker 2: she's always the villain. But it was great. It was

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Speaker 2: all positive. There were a ton of vendors. The drinks

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Speaker 2: were great. They we did shush the room to to

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Speaker 2: like actually listen to the reunion even though I couldn't

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Speaker 2: hear it because people are still coming up to take pictures.

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Speaker 2: But I had to watch it when I got home.

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Speaker 2: But oh my gosh, oh my gosh, Carlos the craziest thing.

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Speaker 2: I swear this on my life. I will never swear,

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Speaker 2: but I will swear it on my life. This was

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Speaker 2: the craziest part of the whole night. And John can

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Speaker 2: attest to it because he was beside me the whole time,

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Speaker 2: and Spencer was there so he can attest to it.

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Speaker 2: So could probably Tamraw she was there part of the time.

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Speaker 2: You have no idea how many people came up to

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Speaker 2: me from that event. Probably a thousand people at least

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Speaker 2: easy walking in and out and all the all the

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Speaker 2: a thousand world more. I might be low balling that,

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Speaker 2: but saying Alexis, we love you on Carlos, we love you,

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Speaker 2: and Carlos your own thing and get off on your

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Speaker 2: own and they're like, I mean, I was like, how

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Speaker 2: do they even like all the people there were listening.

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Speaker 2: I was so blown away. I'm like this is crazy,

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Speaker 2: and I just felt so like happy because you know,

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Speaker 2: I was tainted after season eighteen, but I feel like

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Speaker 2: I wasn't given the respect to be shown the true story.

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Speaker 2: So now people are hearing me with you and going, Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's who Alexis really is. But it's it's awesome because

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Speaker 2: also your podcast is huge, Honey. If seventeenish type of

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Speaker 2: groups of people from the thousands came up and said

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Speaker 2: the Carlos Show, I'm like, wow, so I.

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Speaker 3: Actually terry god, Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I have a bigger head today, Carlos because we

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Speaker 2: have that much love for our Friday podcast today.

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Speaker 1: No listen, I'm actually like really emotional right now hearing

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Speaker 1: that because I'm not gonna cry because I don't like

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Speaker 1: crying on camera.

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Speaker 3: But what I will say is this, thank you for

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Speaker 3: sharing that. Thank you for sharing that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, want to cry?

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, hem.

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Speaker 3: Roy and Roy, Okay, give me all the creams that

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Speaker 1: That's that's very very kind of everybody who walked up

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Speaker 1: to you saying that. It's very kind of the people

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Speaker 1: who take time out to listen to Reality with the

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Speaker 1: King listen to our episodes every week. It means the

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Speaker 1: world to me, honestly, that you are getting the love.

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Speaker 1: And I do mean that. It's the reason why. Look

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Speaker 1: when I did the first episode with you, and I

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Speaker 1: have all this backlash we don't want to hear from Alexis, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, whatever, you know, you'll, you'll get over it.

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Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden it became like this

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Speaker 1: is the duo that I never knew I needed.

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Speaker 3: And then, no matter how much, no matter how much.

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Speaker 1: Hatred that anyone receives on social media, I always tell

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Speaker 1: my stars, my friends in the reality business, even you,

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Speaker 1: it's not real.

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Speaker 3: It's just it doesn't represent the real world.

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Speaker 1: And our episode is constantly trending on TikTok.

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Speaker 3: The comments have been overwhelmingly positive.

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Speaker 1: So the fact that I'm able to provide a platform

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Speaker 1: for you to really be seen after having such a

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Speaker 1: very very difficult, challenging season last season, it means the

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Speaker 1: world to me that that you're getting that.

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Speaker 3: So thank you for sharing that, Alexis. And and and listen.

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Speaker 1: Me, you and Spencer will talk because you know, just

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Speaker 1: because ocs Andy doesn't mean we have to end.

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Speaker 2: Are you asking me on a date? What is you

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Speaker 2: getting ready to ask me, I'm excited about this?

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Speaker 1: Well, you're married more man, I'm not gonna all John.

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Speaker 3: To kill me. But listen, what happened date.

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Speaker 1: We'll have a date with me, you and Spencer and Lizzie,

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Speaker 1: you know, all four of us.

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Speaker 3: We'll have a go for some and just.

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Speaker 1: Like have any conversation about next, next, what's next for

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Speaker 1: Alexis Blina.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm sorry, Alexi Janssen.

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Speaker 2: There's always a future, that's all I'll say. Yes, it's

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Speaker 2: as Janson and I do not do four swingership. So

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Speaker 2: but I would go on a death lunch date with

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Speaker 2: you at all plutonic, you know, and whatever.

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Speaker 1: Yes, no, no, I'll come to the West coast and

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Speaker 1: we'll have a meeting.

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Speaker 3: But thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: So let's get into part one of the Real Housewives

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Speaker 1: of Orange County.

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Speaker 3: So rain Drops, do me a favor.

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Speaker 1: If you're watching this on my YouTube channel, okay, or

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Speaker 1: if you're listening to some audio, take a drink every

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Speaker 1: time you heard Alexis name being mentioned all this, I

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Speaker 1: know if you're no bullshit, no bullshit, no bullshit. First

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Speaker 1: of all, I just I just want to die right

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Speaker 1: right into your name. I did account your name was

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Speaker 1: mentioned six times?

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Speaker 3: You counted yes, because.

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Speaker 1: Look, sister, what is so fascinating about all of this

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Speaker 1: is the fact that, and this may sound strange to

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Speaker 1: the audience, but it's true your name was mentioned more

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Speaker 1: in part one of this reunion that you weren't on

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Speaker 1: all season, then last year's.

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Speaker 3: Part one reunion where you were featured. But I want

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Speaker 3: to ask you this.

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Speaker 1: Did that it felt Listen, it felt strange to me,

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Speaker 1: But I need to ask you how how how doesn't

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Speaker 1: it feel to know your name was mentioned six times

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Speaker 1: and you weren't even a part of the season.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of how I felt the whole season, though,

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Speaker 2: Carlos is like I was like, I felt like even

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Speaker 2: if I wasn't recapping with you, by the phone calls

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Speaker 2: I would get after every episode, they would say, Alexis

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Speaker 2: you need to watch this episode because you were brought

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Speaker 2: up again. Oh you were brought up seven, you know,

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Speaker 2: three times this one. So I felt like I would

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Speaker 2: this recap, you know, thing that you and I are doing,

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Speaker 2: because it was like I was I am still such

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Speaker 2: a part of the of the show, but you know,

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Speaker 2: part of it's kind of like annoying because a lot

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Speaker 2: of things said I'm not there to rebuttal and be like, no,

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Speaker 2: that's not true, because if anyone's going to be the

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Speaker 2: truth teller, you know it's going to be me. And

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Speaker 2: guess what, I don't mean. I do not mind being

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Speaker 2: called the receipt crazy woman. I will bring receipts for

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Speaker 2: whatever I say. So I really have a hard time

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Speaker 2: then things are distorted or not true, like there's a

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Speaker 2: couple on this for you, and that I'm like, no

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Speaker 2: one with Jen, one with Katie, and I don't want

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Speaker 2: to go backwards with them because we're all moving forward

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Speaker 2: as we can see. But I'm still going to claim

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Speaker 2: million viewership that the reunion got last night. But guess what,

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Speaker 2: I still do have a voice and I am I

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Speaker 2: just it just it's mixed emotions. It's kind of funny,

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Speaker 2: also kind of like, well, y'all still kind of like

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Speaker 3: So no, listen. As a producer, I need you to

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Speaker 3: know this. I listen. I'm not some like you know.

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Speaker 3: I'm not Miss.

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Speaker 1: Cleo right, I'm not some true teller. I'm not a

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Speaker 1: psychic a part of the Dion Worwick Network. But what

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Speaker 1: I will say is this when Andy Cohen said, Alexis

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Speaker 1: texted me, oh my god, the re seating chart, you

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Speaker 1: know what happened?

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Speaker 2: I was I was shitting bricks. I'm not kidding you.

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Speaker 2: I I was texting one of my friends that wasn't

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Speaker 2: watching it or didn't know the latest was just like

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Speaker 2: and her name begins with an A. Also is like, hey,

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Speaker 2: what's did you see the seating chart yet? I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I screenshot at the Senate to her. The next thing

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Speaker 2: I know, my my phone pings. I think it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be her, and it pings and it's Auntie and he's

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Speaker 2: like question mark. And I'm like, oh my god, I

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Speaker 2: said to to Andy Cohen and he knows the seating

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Speaker 2: Charty's freaking. They're booming right now. That's the reunion. And

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Speaker 2: soon then I just said, oh my gosh, Andy, I

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Speaker 2: am super embarrassed. I'm so sorry. I know you're in

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Speaker 2: the reunion right now. That was just someone else. And

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Speaker 2: then he he texted me right back and he's laughing

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Speaker 2: and he's like, he's like, so, what do you think

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Speaker 2: of the seating chart? And I go I gave him

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Speaker 2: like a winkie eye and said, I think you guys

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Speaker 2: know what you're doing like that. I really did, like

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Speaker 2: almost crap my pants. I'm not kidding. I was so humiliated.

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Speaker 2: And then I just I thought I have to just

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Speaker 2: laugh it off.

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Speaker 1: But no, but I thought that anybody who knows you

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Speaker 1: in real life knows that that is so Alexis Jansen, Like,

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Speaker 1: that's just.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Listen. It was a very very very beautiful wedding. We

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Speaker 2: You know. And that's the part that's frustrating when I'm

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Speaker 2: like when I'm still things are still not portrayed totally honestly,

434
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,120
Speaker 2: Like that's It wasn't because I thought anything about Shannon

435
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,160
Speaker 2: at all. I didn't even think she was in the equation.

436
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 2: I just thought Jen was not being a very good

437
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,199
Speaker 2: friend by not checking in on me. There you go,

438
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:26,680
Speaker 2: that was long.

439
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 3: It's okay.

440
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 1: Now I want you to get everything out. What is

441
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 1: your relationship like with Jen?

442
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 3: Today?

443
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,640
Speaker 2: We have texted quite a few times. We have tried

444
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 2: to call each other. When I was in Missouri, we

445
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 2: were trying to call each other and get and then

446
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 2: a couple times even now like we we I love Jen,

447
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 2: I care about Jen. I don't want us to not

448
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 2: be friends. I understand she felt like Shan now after

449
00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,400
Speaker 2: only after watching this whole season unfold Carlos, I now

450
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,959
Speaker 2: know a sixty three year old adult woman was trying

451
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 2: to ask Jin, my friend not to like to choose

452
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 2: a lane, which is very unacceptable and high school to me.

453
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 2: So I now see it all clear picture. I think

454
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 2: Jin regretted it after watching it unfold two. I think

455
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 2: she also she felt bad enough to text me and

456
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 2: missed me and wanted to wish me a good look

457
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 2: on my wedding day. So I know that there's room

458
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 2: for improvement and forgiveness and talking things through and also

459
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,679
Speaker 2: just growth of growth of ourselves, you know what I mean. Like,

460
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 2: I think Jin probably and I'm speaking for her right

461
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 2: now because we haven't talked about this, but I think

462
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 2: she probably feels bad and misses me, and I mean

463
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 2: we had a great friendship. I freaking love her, like,

464
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 2: so yeah, that's where I think it stands and so

465
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 2: I'm not. We haven't had time to connect and actually

466
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 2: have the talk that we need to. But I do

467
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 2: know that both of our doors are open, and we've

468
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 2: said that on the text exchange, like let's get this

469
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:00,360
Speaker 2: hashed out, let's talk it through.

470
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 1: Well good, No, listen, I love Jen, I love the

471
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 1: prenticeship you guys have, and listen, I don't think it's

472
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: nothing that can't be resolved. One thing that just cannot

473
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 1: be resolved is Shannon and Tamra. And once again, our

474
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: episode was mentioned without mentioning Reality with the King. So

475
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:23,360
Speaker 1: Andy did say, you know, Alexis was on a podcast

476
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: Hi Bramo, Reality with the King, where where Alexis and

477
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 1: Carlos King both said, where you and I both feel

478
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 1: like Tamra is being iced out on the show. And listen,

479
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: I want my rain drops to really watch this episode,

480
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: this reunion. Shannon, who was sitting at the end, which

481
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 1: by the way, let's be clear, Shannon did I like

482
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: being at the end, and Shannon hated seeing Tamara the

483
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: front seat. That's why Shannon kept interrupting Tamra and wanting

484
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 1: to get an edge in and that's why Tamra's frustrated.

485
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 3: Like I'm not even talking to you.

486
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 1: Shut up, like leave me alone, because that's that was

487
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: the case. I I stand on business. I do feel

488
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: like these girls are icing out, Tamra.

489
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 3: It was evident this reunion.

490
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: Did you feel the same way watching it to alexis.

491
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 2: One And the way that that you know is by

492
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 2: their eye rolls and their eye looks every time tamer

493
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: would talk. And then the other way that it's very

494
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 2: clear was when Gretchen walked out how much they asked

495
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: kissed Gretchen who is, oh my gosh, all of shit

496
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 2: all the time and does dress like a freaking costume

497
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,679
Speaker 2: Halloween person every day of her life. And they're all like, oh,

498
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 2: we like it. You know, they make fun of her

499
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 2: behind her back, but they're like, oh, we love it,

500
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 2: we love we actually think.

501
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 3: Let's see those text messages.

502
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 2: Heather's little dig. Heather's a little dig. She actually goes.

503
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 2: It's amusing. I actually like how you dress. It's like

504
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: no woman wants to go or it's a music or

505
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 2: whatever the word was. I'm like, oh my god. Heather

506
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: always has a back end way of like like kind

507
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 2: of like saying something, but it's actually kind of a

508
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 2: little dig, but she doesn't even mean it that way,

509
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 2: but it just comes. It's like, oh my god, Okay, okay,

510
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 2: now I thought it was crazy entertaining Carlos entertaining.

511
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, she says she thought that I was entertaining. I'm like,

512
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 3: what are you been talking about here?

513
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: And it was it was so obvious because they need

514
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 1: basiline with how much they use their lips and kiss

515
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: Gretchen's ass.

516
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 3: It was so obvious, and it was such to me.

517
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 2: Camera out is what's happening, and that's what they're trying

518
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 2: to do. But here's the best part of this, Carlos,

519
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: you never know what the hell Bravo is gonna do.

520
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: They five, they I quit season seven, quit the show.

521
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 2: No housewife quits the show. I actually literally quit. This

522
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 2: is the honesty, god truth. I have emails and texts

523
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 2: to prove it. They then called me back and begged

524
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: me back for season eight, begged like we it was

525
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 2: a lot, and I kept saying no, okay, so you

526
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: don't know what brob and then they fired me season eight.

527
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 2: At the end of season eight, then they fired me,

528
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 2: so quit season seven. They begged me back, fired me

529
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 2: season eight. You have that hot after all that work

530
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 2: they had to go through to get me back on

531
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: season eight. It's like it's like you never know what's

532
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 2: going on in their mind. You don't know, and they're honestly,

533
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 2: they're the best at this because look at how it's

534
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 2: twentieth season coming up. They know what they're doing, so

535
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 2: so it doesn't matter what the women on the cast

536
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 2: think they're gonna do. I'm sorry if you think you

537
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 2: ice Katie out, she's gone, baby cakes. I don't think so.

538
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 2: You should have seen the love she was getting last

539
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 2: night at that at that event. You should see there

540
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 2: is something about they do not like. The fans don't

541
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: like what happened to Katie, So you don't know. She

542
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: could very well be back in Girls. If you want

543
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 2: to film and you want to be on the show,

544
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 2: you better buckle up and film with her and not

545
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 2: try to ice her up. Same thing with Tamra. I'm sorry,

546
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: she's not the longest standing housewife for no reason, Carlos.

547
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 2: She's the only one that carries the show. But the

548
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 2: girls don't like that she keeps truth and facts in

549
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 2: her brain. They want things to be overlooked and they

550
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: want the show to go a little bit more like

551
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 2: not so like, Okay, well, if you're gonna call me

552
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: out about this, I'm gonna tell the truth about that too.

553
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 2: Like they want more of a I think, more of

554
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: like a vanilla show or something. But that's not what's

555
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: going to keep.

556
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 3: No, listen, Tamra's necessary from the show. But it just

557
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 3: nawned on me. You and Katie saw each other last night.

558
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 3: How was that?

559
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: I mean, we've already been texting because when I got

560
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 2: invited to the event, Tamar obviously invited me. I'm one

561
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: of her closest friends, and so I texted Katie and

562
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 2: I just said I don't have it. I don't have

563
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 2: it memorized, obviously, but I said something like, Hey, just

564
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 2: wanted you to know I'm excited Tamar invited me to

565
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 2: your event. I'm gonna come, and I want to support

566
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 2: you too, and I'm excited to support you something like that.

567
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 2: And then she texted back, you know, and said whatever,

568
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 2: because here's the honest truth. I think in her mind,

569
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 2: this is another point I wanted to make. Oh good,

570
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: this is good. I didn't even know this would come up,

571
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 2: but this is where it's gonna come up, brain drops,

572
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: tune in on this one. Okay, turn those ears on. Okay.

573
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 2: So last night at the reunion, it was like like

574
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 2: when Katie said, I did not play it for Alexis,

575
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 2: I would love her to say what Shannon said then,

576
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 2: and then Andy goes, well, let's play it. Well, I'm

577
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: gonna tell you what Shannon said, because I did hear

578
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 2: the mimo, the voice memo, and I'm not crazy, and

579
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 2: I'm not I mean, and by the way, it's been

580
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: a year and a half now that I heard it,

581
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 2: but it was what I do remember is I know

582
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 2: who she was talking to. How would I know that

583
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 2: if I didn't hear it. Second of all, Shannon was screaming,

584
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 2: Alexis Bolina is here, she's here. This is not good

585
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 2: for my mental health. And I don't know why we

586
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: have here at the same time, and I mean it

587
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: was and she was literally ballistic about me being there.

588
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 2: And I'm four rooms down and I never had to

589
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 2: see the witch, never had to see her. I was

590
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 2: in my own room. They brought me out, I got done,

591
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 2: and I got taken away in my car. Never got

592
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 2: just never had to see her. She just couldn't stand

593
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 2: the fact that I was there, So first of all,

594
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: you don't yell at production, Second of all, or out production.

595
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, this was somebody else, even like a big wig. Okay,

596
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: you don't yell at them, but then you don't. I mean,

597
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: it's like, who cares if we have to go and

598
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: take a picture on set. We're on the same TV show.

599
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: You could have said no to the TV show knowing

600
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: they were bringing me in. You have every right to

601
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: quit at any point you want to. You can get

602
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 2: out of your contract. So yeah, so I did hear.

603
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 2: There was so much more in aff.

604
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 3: But who played for you? Who played?

605
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: Katie played me the voice memo at a restaurant across

606
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,959
Speaker 2: the street from my house, and the women next to

607
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: us were sitting to my left were two brunettes and

608
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: another blonde. I can't this is how much I remember

609
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: the day. Carlos and Jen was at that lunch, and

610
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 2: I know Jen said I went up and got to

611
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: the bathroom. I can't remember if I ever made eye

612
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 2: contact with Jin or talk to her when I was

613
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: hearing the voice memo. I just remember looking left to

614
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: my left and I was like, Katie, like those women

615
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: are like we got a a little bit because I

616
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: didn't want our dirt of the show to be listened

617
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 2: to by other patrons at the restaurant. So yeah, I

618
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: mean so, Katie, I think really doesn't remember letting me

619
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: hear it, but she did, so I'm willing to move

620
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: on past that and let her think in her mind

621
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 2: I didn't hear it. But the whole bottom line is Carlos,

622
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 2: she did the she recorded it, so that should be

623
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: the end of it. Who cares like the minutia if

624
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: she it's like, that's such minuche, But it's it's the truth,

625
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 2: and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go to my

626
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: grave saying, oh, yeah, I was wrong when I'm not wrong.

627
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: I heard the whole thing.

628
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, actually I can agree with you. Listen.

629
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I was happy to

630
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: see Katie beer. She looked gorgeous.

631
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 3: And we've moved on.

632
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 2: To answer your question, we've moved on. I adore her.

633
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 2: Matt and I and John had a long talk while

634
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 2: she was busy doing some other things last night. I

635
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 2: adore them and I care about them also, and I'm

636
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 2: I'm easily willing to squash be and talking a mature

637
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: setting and work past things, because you know, that's what

638
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: you have to do in life. We got to work

639
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 2: past certain situations. As long as you don't know, cheat on,

640
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: cheat on my husband, or having a fair with my husband,

641
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: I can or hurt one of my kids. I can

642
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: pretty much squash the beef about anything else.

643
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: Well, maybe some of the OC housewives need to take

644
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: a page for your book, because tam or grudge asked

645
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: Shannon Paul, which, by the way, it's hilarious, but let's

646
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: be clear a fan said that, and Shanna picked it

647
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: up again, it is what it is. But what I

648
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: thought what was so interesting is the fact that tamer said,

649
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: where Shannon you recorded Vicki? And hey, my my mouth dropped.

650
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, what is happening right now? Because again

651
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: I watched the show and I watch all nineteen seasons,

652
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: and I'm like, when does Shannon record Vicki? And Shannon

653
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: looked like she saw a ghost and She's like, well,

654
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: she was dealing something with her husband.

655
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 2: Makes someone mad, You're gonna make someone mad, Okay, Carlos,

656
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 2: When is Shannon ever care who she makes mad? She's

657
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 2: trying to dictate people's friendships and not worried about it.

658
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: How is she gonna care about if if Tamra made

659
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 2: Vicky mad for that? But it is true, and I

660
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: want to say this, and I'm gonna leave it very

661
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: simple for the listeners to take for themselves. Remember that

662
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 2: I'm married to John. Okay, it is true about the recording,

663
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: and it is true what Tamarra said about Shannon was

664
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 2: talking smack on VICKI so yeah, that's all true. And

665
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: again I have receipts and I'm not gonna go there

666
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 2: because then it's like, oh my god, I like say,

667
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: but it's the truth, and I'm I'm sorry. I gotta

668
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: be truth teller. I just I can't. I should have

669
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,959
Speaker 2: been like this and I have no other way, but

670
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 2: just to be a truth teller. I would never say

671
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: these things, Carlos, unless if I got put in front

672
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: of a judge and was getting ready to go to

673
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: jail for saying this, I would be able to say, hmmm,

674
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 2: here it is judge, so yeah, wait a.

675
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: Second, or or a love detect the test examiner, that's

676
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: time to release. But wait a second, sister, I this

677
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: is tea because.

678
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep it very I'm going to keep it

679
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: very Let the let the listeners.

680
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 3: No, yes, no, no, no, I don't have to say this.

681
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 3: I have to say this. I've only.

682
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: Speechless, okay because because I'm gagging. All right, Look, and

683
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: that's till my glasses off so I can see.

684
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 3: Look.

685
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: I thought, based on watching the show, that Shannon said

686
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: she recorded something going on with Vicki her husband, but

687
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: that she deleted it afterwards. But you're saying Shannon was

688
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: caught on the recording talking about Vicky.

689
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just saying that what Tamra said is true.

690
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: I will leave it at that, and I have the

691
00:33:59,120 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: receipts for it.

692
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 3: So yeah, we do have. But how do you have

693
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 3: the receipt Alexis dances my husband? You have possession of

694
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 3: the audio?

695
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: No, I don't have possession of the audio. I have

696
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 2: other I have proof of other words exchanged and and

697
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 2: that camera is right. It was being called out that

698
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 2: it was Vicky was the culprit and the bad one,

699
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: just saying that, okay, we need to move on. I'm

700
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 2: going to get trouble and all that's gonna make me

701
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: think I'm psycho when I'm not. All I am is

702
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: wanting to get to the bottom of the truth here,

703
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 2: And so do I do my deep Dateline NBC research

704
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: as a detective. Yes, I do, because that is what

705
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: I do. I should belong on Dateline because I would

706
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 2: find the murderer. I promise you I would get to

707
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 2: the bottom.

708
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 3: I love you.

709
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 2: So I've had a little copies, so I'm.

710
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 3: A little I just love you. I love you.

711
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: What I love about you is the fact that you

712
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: always keep it real. And look, when the conversation was

713
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: going on with Katie and and Gina, I thought Gina

714
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: did a great job at taking countability and apologizing to

715
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: Katie in regards to.

716
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 2: Go ahead remind me though, yeah no, no, oh yeah.

717
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 3: So when.

718
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: Katie told Monique that she felt there was some racial

719
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: undertones in regards to Gina asking about wearing Asian designers,

720
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: I thought Gina did a fabulous job addressing it, taking

721
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: taking accountability and apologizing.

722
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 3: I thought it. I wish it would have happened on

723
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 3: the show.

724
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: And I wish these sort of conversations of accountability and

725
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 1: apologizing that fast would happen, because we saw how Katie

726
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: sat immediately and moved on. So listen, I know the

727
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: world gives Gina shit, but I will say I thought

728
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,959
Speaker 1: Gina did a fabulous job explaining herself. Now I'm making

729
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: excuses and being accountable. I thought it was fabulous, so

730
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 1: I want to make sure that that was mentioned.

731
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 3: I agree.

732
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 2: I yeah, I'm not really super passionate about any part

733
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 2: of that, other than the fact that, like I think

734
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 2: more women should have said when Andy said after that

735
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 2: part where Gina set her piece where and even when

736
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 2: Andy said, does anyone else want to apologize to Katie?

737
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of those women owed Katie

738
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: an apology. I'm sorry, even though she's still not recalling

739
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 2: that she played the audio for me. I'm willing to

740
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 2: move past that. It does not mean that I still

741
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 2: don't have empathy and compassion to the fact that the

742
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: way she was iced out, and they can, those women

743
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 2: can say whatever the f they want. She was iced out, okay,

744
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: And I think to be honest, Carlos, Oh, It's only

745
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 2: been episode one of the reunion, but I want to

746
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: say this. I was impressed and proud of Katie for

747
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 2: how she handled her own I think she grew stronger

748
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 2: this season, because when you go to rock bottom, you

749
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 2: do get strength through that. Going through all those emotions.

750
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: I think she was calm, cool, collected, spoke her peace,

751
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 2: and didn't just sit there like a deer in headlights

752
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: like she did last season when I was on the

753
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 2: house on you know, the reunion. So I want to

754
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 2: give her kudos for that and just say, you know,

755
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 2: I was very happy to see that she did. But

756
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 2: the women did owe her an apology.

757
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean, look, Shannon says she apologized for

758
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: saying that she thought Katie was as evil as Alexis.

759
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 2: I never heard Shannon say I'm sorry. One time. She

760
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: skirted around it, and I maybe I need to go

761
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: back and rewind it, Carlos, but I never heard it.

762
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 2: All I heard was her kind of take accountability in

763
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 2: her own sort of non accountability way, be like I

764
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: shouldn't have said that. That's not and I'm sorry.

765
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 3: That's true, that's true. No, you're right, you're right.

766
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 2: Is I'm sorry, and there's never a butt after it.

767
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 2: If you're truly sorry, it's just I am so sorry.

768
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. But or I shouldn't have done that.

769
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: That's not an apology. No, I agree with that because

770
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

771
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 3: I'm thinking you're right. I think so. I think so no,

772
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 3: I'm telling you right now, You're absolutely right.

773
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: She never said I'm sorry, she said she she she

774
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: tried to do what you said.

775
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 3: She was like, uh, I shouldn't have said it. I

776
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 3: meant it this way.

777
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: But what was so obvious to me is the fact

778
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: that you and I spoke about this. You even said, look,

779
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: as a former housewife, when it comes to these shows, yes,

780
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: a lot of us are friends, but some of us,

781
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: or some of them, rather.

782
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 3: They do have strategy when it comes to the show.

783
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: Even when they brought a Vicki and Tamra saying that, look,

784
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 1: she wants Vicki back, and look, I think anybody breathing

785
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: should want the og of the OC back for season twenty,

786
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: which is next season. Whether or not Tamor is using

787
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: strategy to do it, I think the producers have strategy

788
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:54,919
Speaker 1: to bring her back.

789
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 3: But it was I thought it was very fascinating.

790
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: That Emily questioned and even asked, is it strategy or friendship?

791
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: And I'm like, Emily, you're the wrong person to talk.

792
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: You kicked out Katie, you yelled at her. You also

793
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: yelled at Tamar for filming with Katie.

794
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 3: Again.

795
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: You all of this is strategy. It is so once again,

796
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 1: Shannon even saying that.

797
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 3: Look which I look, I do believe it. I don't

798
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 3: care what anyone says.

799
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: I do believe that Shannon wants Gretchen to replace Tamara,

800
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: whether or not there was a phone call, whatever, because

801
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: I love you Jen. But Jen does have the memory

802
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: of a plant. She doesn't remember anything, and I love Jen.

803
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 3: I love Jen.

804
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 4: The fact that Jen may not remember the fact that

805
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 4: she said I went to the bathroom when Katie played

806
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 4: the audio for you, Alexis or I don't remember Gretchen

807
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 4: saying that Tamar tried to drug her.

808
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 1: Jen takes take I don't know we need to take,

809
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: but you need to take something that made me back

810
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: some B B double A.

811
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a brain. There's a there's a vitamin brain.

812
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 2: It's like, we go, is it vitamin A that's eyes,

813
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 2: it's not vitamin D that's cold. Like we need to

814
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 2: mail her the brain vitamin Carlos had a little gift

815
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 2: from us just to just here you go, sweetie. We

816
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 2: love you.

817
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, as if I google exactly what she needs,

818
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: because I'm going to give her a free supply of that.

819
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 3: Because because my girl, my girl needs it.

820
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: Baby, especially if you're gonna be on this show and

821
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: now she's going on a fourth season. Holy crap, you

822
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: have to remember everything from season four seasons ago in

823
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: order to survive on this show. But going back to

824
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 2: the strategy thing, Carlos, Oh, but before.

825
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: You go, it's call but Alexis, it's called jink jink

826
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: go below ba.

827
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: Yes, Jinko Belova, Yes, Jinko Blova. That's how you pronounced it.

828
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 2: Is it? I knew?

829
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: I knew there was one, So Jan, I'm giving your

830
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:02,959
Speaker 1: first supply of Bad Girl Friend.

831
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 3: Well go ahead of le Oh, so nice colors.

832
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: You're like that so nice? So back to the strategizing. Okay,

833
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: First of all, Emily likes to act like she doesn't

834
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 2: do everything she calls everyone else out on doing, because

835
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 2: if you ever rewind any of the six seasons she's

836
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 2: been on, she's done pretty much every single thing that

837
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 2: She's always like going, why are you saying I do?

838
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: Like I'm just like, I like, look at my I'm

839
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 2: going crazy. Sometimes I'm like, oh my gosh, you're the

840
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: you're sure the kettle what's it? Tea calling the kettle black?

841
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 2: Or pot called pot calling the kettle black?

842
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 5: Pot pop calling the kettle black like every single episode basically.

843
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 5: But but I think all these women and if they

844
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 5: say they don't, they're lying.

845
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: Everyone has some sort of a strategy. It is kind

846
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 2: of the game of survivor to be on a housewives show.

847
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 2: I'm just being honest. I've been there and done that,

848
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: happy that I did it. It was a great part

849
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 2: of my life. But it is the truth. You are

850
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 2: kind of playing a little because you want to be honest,

851
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 2: but you don't want to tick everyone off because you

852
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 2: don't want to be Katie on the Desert Island, which

853
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: I've been before. You don't want to You have to

854
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 2: try to kind of keep the peace but yet be

855
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 2: honest and real and authentic and tell call the truth

856
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: out when the truth needs to be told. It's a

857
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 2: very sticky. It's a very difficult career, first of all.

858
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 2: And I want to give kudos to all the women

859
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 2: on every franchise because not everybody can handle it. Not

860
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: everybody can do that job, and it is entertainment, so

861
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:30,959
Speaker 2: you kind of have to keep it at that level.

862
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: Like none of us are performing brain surgery kind of thing,

863
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 2: Like we're literally here to make people laugh and get

864
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: out escape their reality and their own world. But I

865
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 2: do know that every single woman on that stage has

866
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 2: a strategy, and no doubt, there's no doubt that it

867
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 2: was to get Tamra off the show for season twenty.

868
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 2: There is no doubt. I think they're jealous that she's

869
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: been on the longest. I think they don't want her

870
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 2: on season twenty. And I think they don't want someone

871
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 2: who has so many facts in her brain because she's

872
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 2: very smart that will just call it out when it's

873
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 2: time for the truth to be told. And that is

874
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: why Tamara carries the show forward. And you know, I

875
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 2: got on Instagram only for a brief second this morning

876
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 2: and just to check the dms from last night and

877
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 2: see if anyone else sent more photos you can put

878
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 2: on story and stuff, you know. But and the first

879
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 2: thing that poppped up was after the reading, one of

880
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: the bloggers. I don't didn't screenshot it. I don't remember

881
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: what it said, but it was one of the Bravo bloggers,

882
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: and it said kudos to Tamar for carrying this season

883
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 2: once again. So as much as the women hate her,

884
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 2: everyone knows that there's not going to be as good

885
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 2: of a show without Tamra there period and lover her

886
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: her hater because there's been years I've hated her and

887
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 2: I could have still said that about her. She at

888
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 2: least carries the show. That's why there's a season twenty.

889
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: You can thank her for that a lot.

890
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 3: I agree.

891
00:43:53,000 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: I agree, you're back, You're back, We're back.

892
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 3: Okay. So one thing that we have.

893
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: To get into alexis Gretchen comes out.

894
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, what.

895
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 3: Now?

896
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: It could be Naty Caragan, it could be John Banna Ramsey.

897
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: It's it's definitely an outfit just for Gretchen. Before we

898
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: get to hur and s Lake, there's someone to unpack here.

899
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: What did you think of Gretchen's re union dress?

900
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: I I think I'm actually gonna plead the fifth on

901
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: this one, just because it's like I just I just

902
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 2: don't there's no there's really nothing for me to say.

903
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 2: I mean, it speaks quite volumes for itself, doesn't it.

904
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 2: I mean, you don't really have to say much.

905
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, my vote is Nasty care Again or

906
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: even Tanya Harding.

907
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 3: But listen, that's that's my opinion.

908
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: But you look, it's I I thought, in the words

909
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: of Heather, it was entertaining, but the most entertaining part

910
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: to me of Gretchen's presidence, and we have to get

911
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:16,959
Speaker 1: into before we end the show.

912
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 6: We have to get into the shade of Slade because

913
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 6: baby that with Andy asked what does slave do? Of

914
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 6: course my mind went to Alexis with.

915
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 3: She told Slaye on this podcast to get a job

916
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: and stay out of women's business.

917
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: Gretchen said that Slave is a consultant and he's on

918
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: the Liberachi board.

919
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 3: What the fuck is.

920
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: That's called? I got to pull something out of my

921
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 2: ass for my uh forever fiance because I need him

922
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: to look better than what this show has made him

923
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 2: look like. So I've got a really good idea of site,

924
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 2: Let's find some committee that you can become a part of.

925
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 2: And then it sounds really good. And so you know,

926
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 2: they were on their email and everybody about work. What

927
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 2: committee can we put Slade on? You know? No, you

928
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 2: know what? In all honesty, Carlos, here's the thing I

929
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 2: like when Heather stood up for Gotchen a little bit

930
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 2: and said, look, whatever your relationship is, it's fine. You

931
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 2: don't know anybody answers. Where I get lost in all

932
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 2: of it is that it is like they're trying to

933
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 2: portray something that's not real, like it is just like, no,

934
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: we're never going to get married. Just admit it. I'm

935
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 2: not going to marry him beause he has too much debt.

936
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: He did go to jail, he did in two thousand

937
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 2: and nine for not paying child support. So he was

938
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 2: considered a dead beat dad for that at that point

939
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: in his life. And by the way, it is not

940
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 2: Tamra that is saying dead beat dad, that is not

941
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 2: getting Slat employed. Okay, I've said that two podcasts ago

942
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: with you. I'm going to keep saying it because if

943
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: anyone believes that there you know what, I have about

944
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 2: a million dollars and dish towels that I want to

945
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 2: sell you. If you believe that, okay, I promise you

946
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 2: that they're worth a million. Okay, But I think that

947
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 2: it's like I do feel if Slade does buy his

948
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: own uses his own money from this Liberachi thing that

949
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 2: I didn't even know the committees paid when you're on

950
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 2: a board. I didn't even think you got paid to

951
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 2: be on a board. I thought you were given away

952
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: your time and trying to make me same anyway, So

953
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, but if he's buying his own groceries

954
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: and that's how they live their life. Fine, be with

955
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 2: own it and just be like, no, he's not going

956
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: to get a job. He's going to live off of me.

957
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 2: He is step stay at home dad. I'm the worker.

958
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: That would be so much more respectful than if you

959
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 2: try to change it or twist it, or portray it

960
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 2: or say things that don't That's where the women were

961
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 2: getting confused because they're like, but you proposed to them,

962
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 2: So why'd you propose to him if you said you're

963
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 2: never going to marry it? Because proposing means you're going

964
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 2: to get married at some point. It could be five

965
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 2: years down the road, could be sixteen years down the road.

966
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 2: But an engagement means at one point in time, we

967
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: are going to get married. It's clear they're not. But

968
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 2: even if they do, just own the fact that we

969
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: don't want to get married. If you don't want to

970
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 2: get married, we're going to stay engaged with theirs to

971
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 2: of our life. America would look at it so much

972
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 2: better and different and be like, they're owning it. So

973
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 2: what who's that? Who's that couple? Goldie Hawn and what's

974
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: his name?

975
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 3: Yeah?

976
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, they never got married, and they were together for

977
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: their whole life and have still be Aren't they still together?

978
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 2: I mean still together yeah, twenty or thirty years. But

979
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 2: you know what, no one ever questioned them because they

980
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 2: didn't get engaged, and they never said yes bad man,

981
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 2: never said we'll get married at one point, never had

982
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 2: to defend their relationship because there was no lying or

983
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 2: deceit going on. I think the reason the women are questioning, well,

984
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,479
Speaker 2: but who buys the groceries and when are you getting

985
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 2: married is because it looks like they're trying to portray

986
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 2: something that that's not Why would you go say your

987
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 2: vows before a a They said it was an ordained minister,

988
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 2: before an ordained minister, if you had no intention of

989
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 2: ever filing that to be a marriage. I mean, it

990
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 2: does not make sense to me other than they wanted

991
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 2: to Maybe maybe they wanted to say those vows and

992
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: it meant the world to them. But then it's just

993
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: more called a ceremony. It's like we just had a

994
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 2: ceremony of love. That's what it should because yet not

995
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 2: portraying anything that's false. It's just a ceremony of love,

996
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 2: and the end of the story.

997
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 3: Yes, it's I listen, I agree with you. I agree

998
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 3: with Heather just own as your relationship. Who cares.

999
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: But it is very interesting and I thought I was

1000
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: very funny when Andy said, look, I thought you guys

1001
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: did that to get a Bravo wedding special so that

1002
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:29,479
Speaker 1: we could pay for it.

1003
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 2: Carlos, I jumped up out of bed because I had

1004
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 2: to watch this after last night, right after the whole

1005
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 2: party that we went to. I jumped.

1006
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,240
Speaker 3: I was like, going, oh my god, that was so gag.

1007
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 2: I literally got up out of bed because I was like,

1008
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 2: what the heck did you? Did you just do? I

1009
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 2: was gobsmacked, like baffled. I was like, holy heck, he

1010
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,240
Speaker 2: really just went there. But it's so true.

1011
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: Yes, no, it's I think it's what it is too.

1012
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: And it's funny because you saidness and I agree with you.

1013
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: That's near forever fiance. I don't think they will ever

1014
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 1: get married.

1015
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 2: No otherwise. When they asked, when they they asked her

1016
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 2: point blank, another thing that makes it look like the

1017
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 2: level of deceit like she's trying to deceive what the

1018
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: relationship really is. The other thing they asked her was

1019
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 2: someone said, well, when are you going to be ready then,

1020
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 2: and she's like, I'm ready now. I do know. No,

1021
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 2: you're not, because if you are ready now, you'd say,

1022
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 2: we put a date on the books for next June

1023
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 2: twelfth of twenty twenty six, you know. Like it's like,

1024
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 2: it's like, don't deceive, just say we're going to stay engaged,

1025
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 2: and that that's what means the world to us. That's

1026
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 2: so much more respectful, isn't it. Because look, my last engagement,

1027
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 2: my last engagement right before Johnny, we didn't have a

1028
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 2: date on the books. We had no date, and I

1029
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: didn't know a date. And the minute I got engaged

1030
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 2: to Johnny, we put a date on. But I was

1031
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 2: never going around town saying we don't know. I honestly

1032
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 2: thought if I ever did marry him, or we ever

1033
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 2: did get a date on the books, it would be

1034
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 2: way down. He had a lot younger kids. I knew

1035
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 2: it was going to be a long ways away. But

1036
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 2: I didn't try to deceive people in the community by

1037
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 2: saying we are going to you know, like, I was

1038
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 2: just very honest with it. We don't know, we're engaged now,

1039
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 2: we're excited about this. We're living in the you know,

1040
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 2: the relishing in this engagement forever.

1041
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, no years, mark my words.

1042
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 1: The only way Gretchen and Slade are getting married is

1043
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: if she's asked back to be a housewife next season,

1044
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: and that's her storyline.

1045
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 3: I promise you.

1046
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 2: I don't promise you. I don't even think then. I

1047
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 2: think he has too much debt and too much that

1048
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 2: she can't she doesn't want to take on. I think

1049
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,760
Speaker 2: I forget. I was filming back when that scene happened

1050
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 2: that they flashed back to that Gretchen had said. Heather

1051
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 2: called Gretchen out back then. That was like two thousand

1052
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 2: and eight or nine or ten, one of those seasons

1053
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 2: that I was on, and Heather called out her out

1054
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 2: and said, yeah, but you don't want to marry him

1055
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 2: because he's got too much debt and you don't want

1056
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 2: to carry it that on. And Gretchen was honest at

1057
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 2: that point and owned it and said, yeah, I don't.

1058
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: I don't want to take that on. That is so

1059
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 2: respectful and understandable. I get that, don't take his dead on,

1060
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 2: don't take his you know. So, I don't think even

1061
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 2: if they got asked as full time cast, they because

1062
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 2: I you know, Slade is basically works for her and

1063
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 2: does all her job. But if they got us back

1064
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 2: next season as as she did as a housewife to

1065
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,760
Speaker 2: have an orange, I still don't think she would marry him.

1066
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: I don't well, baby, we will wait and see and

1067
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: part two next week we have the showdown between Gretchen

1068
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: and Tamera.

1069
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,240
Speaker 3: And I do want to say this shout out to Emily.

1070
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: Emily my thoughts and purse with your son, as Emily

1071
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: talked about her son possibly having pandas and how you

1072
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: know the strep the bacteria affects your brain and the

1073
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 1: brain swelling. So my thoughts and priss go out to

1074
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: Emily and and and Shane's son. So I want to

1075
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: make sure that Alexai said that she agrees to. So Alexi,

1076
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: before I'll let you go, let.

1077
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Speaker 3: The rain drops know what you got bombard it last night.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna give bombard it next week because you will

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Speaker 1: be at Bravo Con.

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Speaker 2: I am gonna be there for three of the days. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm not gonna be at the Bravos, but I'll

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Speaker 2: be staying. You know, I'll be at a lot of

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Speaker 2: the places that everyone's at. I am working for iHeart

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Speaker 2: to do a couple podcastings and uh interviewing and the

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Speaker 2: celebs and all of that. So it's gonna be a

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Speaker 2: lot of fun. And yeah, I'm really excited. And then

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Speaker 2: it's oh, it's Gollina's birthday. Let's give a shout out

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Speaker 2: to Gallina. This is I'm wearing her T shirt on

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Speaker 2: interview today, Galina because it's her birthday while we're there.

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Speaker 3: So that's birthday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're gonna do a little birthday celebration there too,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's gonna be fun. And you're not coming, Carlos.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, I know, but I

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Speaker 1: will be able to get you back next week to

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Speaker 1: hear all about it, because Friday I'll be.

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Speaker 2: I'll be in the thick of Bravo Con Friday morning

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Speaker 2: from my hotel room when we you and I are

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Speaker 2: are are doing recapping the reunion. I may look a

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Speaker 2: little bit retired. I'll probably have glasses on and be

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Speaker 2: barely woken up, but we're going to because I'm working

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Speaker 2: all day Thursday, and then I have to work all

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Speaker 2: day Friday too. I actually might be in hair and

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Speaker 2: makeup when we have to do that. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: we got.

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Speaker 3: I'm like even better but we'll figure it out.

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Speaker 1: We'll get Spencer on it. But congratulates. I'm proud of you,

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Speaker 1: So rain Drops. Next week Alexi will be back recapping

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Speaker 1: part to the reunion and giving us some tea of

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Speaker 1: our Bravo conscin Ot agains that who.

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Speaker 3: Knows, maybe will be a storyline season.

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Speaker 1: So Alexis Janson, I love you, having a great weekend,

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Speaker 1: my love.

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Speaker 3: So Johona said hi, and I'll see you next Friday.

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Speaker 3: By rain Drops one Bye Boo.

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,

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Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partner ship.

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Speaker 3: With the Lack Effect Network.

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