Speaker 1: Of the Law and Order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable.
Speaker 2: We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the
Speaker 2: vicious felonies.
Speaker 3: These episodes are based on.
Speaker 4: These are our stories, done done.
Speaker 3: Hello, that's messed up?
Speaker 2: In SVU podcast, I'm Liza Traeger and I'm Kara Klank
Speaker 2: reporting to you live from my garage in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: I would like to tell them where I'm at. I
Speaker 2: haven't exposed. I'm looking at my exposed brick wall in
Speaker 2: New York City.
Speaker 1: Yes, we're giving you your coast to coast coverage of
Speaker 1: Law and Order SVU, the true crime it's based on.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we interview people from the show. Spoiler alert. Today
Speaker 1: we don't have anybody, but we're just gonna have fun
Speaker 1: and that those can be fun too. You know.
Speaker 3: We don't need no stinking guests. Just kidding. We want
Speaker 3: everyone to do our show well. Also, I do want
Speaker 3: to do a little shout out.
Speaker 2: I ran into a mother daughter grandmother trip from Toronto
Speaker 2: here on the streets of New York. Oh, three generations.
Speaker 2: She screamed, glitter cheese. Oh my god, you're coming from
Speaker 2: soul cycle and I was.
Speaker 3: She can tell so shout out.
Speaker 2: They were about to go walk the Brooklyn Bridge and
Speaker 2: they were far from it, so they were really getting
Speaker 2: their steps in.
Speaker 1: I do think it's funny when people just call you
Speaker 1: glitter cheese, or people are like, oh, tell Glitter that this.
Speaker 1: Like when she brought up this on the podcast, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll tell Glitter. It really does make me happy. Did
Speaker 1: you have a good weekend last weekend? I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think of what I did anything that wasn't just like
Speaker 1: kids going going to kids birthday parties and stuff.
Speaker 3: I honestly kept.
Speaker 2: It pretty chill this weekend, but I have a lot
Speaker 2: going on coming up.
Speaker 3: Events I didn't show up.
Speaker 2: Two events I bought, like a gift for someone's birthday
Speaker 2: that I did not go to.
Speaker 3: Is like, what, That's what my weekend was?
Speaker 2: It was Yeah, it was like soul cycle and then
Speaker 2: like absolutely not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how I felt.
Speaker 2: I wish I had, you know, more wild things to report,
Speaker 2: but I have been on my continuous journey through the
Speaker 2: Real Housewives of Orange County. I'm on like season seven
Speaker 2: and eight and just doing my intro Alexis Bilino. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you remember this but she became like
Speaker 2: a news anchor, but she just did like fitness and
Speaker 2: beauty things for local news, but was so bad. And
Speaker 2: it's like then Gretchen was performing for with the Pussycat Dolls.
Speaker 2: Never sang, never sang into a microphone, none of it.
Speaker 2: And it's like the audacity of all of these people
Speaker 2: to just be like, Yep, this is my career. Yeah,
Speaker 2: of course I'm gonna do it. Slade Smiley doing stand
Speaker 2: up comedy at the Improv, Like, it's just so wild
Speaker 2: that you just think that you can. She said, like
Speaker 2: a Lexus was saying people's names wrong, she was stuttering,
Speaker 2: she was out getting a drink while they were like
Speaker 2: we're live.
Speaker 3: She had to run into frame to like Georgia.
Speaker 2: And it's just so that's where I'm at in that
Speaker 2: journey of like Brooks has just came into the picture.
Speaker 2: He hasn't lied about cancer yet, but it's everyone being like,
Speaker 2: we don't like him.
Speaker 3: Who is this guy?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so That's where I'm at at that journey,
Speaker 2: just watching people.
Speaker 1: It's wild that a person named Slade Smiley is real,
Speaker 1: But that's a real name.
Speaker 3: That's a crazy fucking name. I bet it's fucking nut.
Speaker 2: I bet he's David Slade or something like that and
Speaker 2: decided to do his more fun middle name.
Speaker 1: Slade's Smiley. I mean, it sounds like a fucking Muppet
Speaker 1: game show character. Like I can't even like get on board.
Speaker 1: But I did see the movie Long Legs. Have you
Speaker 1: been hearing about it?
Speaker 2: Fucking bitch? Of course I want to see it, So
Speaker 2: what what? What are the thoughts? I'm shocked you even went.
Speaker 2: I oh, because of the silence of the lambs, kind
Speaker 2: of energy, because kind of I feel like you wouldn't go.
Speaker 2: This is the guy that did it follow or the actress,
Speaker 2: I mean the actress the actress.
Speaker 1: And when I was watching it, I kept going, how
Speaker 1: do I know this girl was? She was giving me, like,
Speaker 1: just from her look, I'm like, it's not Jackie from Yellowjackets,
Speaker 1: but she kind of has a little bit of that look.
Speaker 3: But who is she?
Speaker 1: I've never I went to her IMDb. I've never seen
Speaker 1: a damn thing she's been in. But she looks very
Speaker 1: familiar to me. Here's the thing, it's too new.
Speaker 3: I just saw it.
Speaker 1: I don't want to ruin anybody's like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to ruin anything. I have thoughts and I need you
Speaker 1: guys to see it and then we'll talk about it.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's playing by my place, I'll try to see it.
Speaker 2: But I read a Vulture article actually about the actress
Speaker 2: and it's just ranking all her roles in all the
Speaker 2: horror movies. But she's kind of like a modern day
Speaker 2: scream Queen is yee what it is? And I and
Speaker 2: it follows as the scariest movie I've ever seen. I
Speaker 2: haven't been able to do a rewatch of it, like
Speaker 2: all the way through, but she is so incredible and
Speaker 2: I'm excited to watch all of her stuff.
Speaker 1: Like she's very good in it, like she's very I
Speaker 1: was definitely giving me Clarice Starling, but like different, like
Speaker 1: she plays she plays it very like small and like
Speaker 1: she's very good. But the movie is wild. I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's just I don't know what to say about it.
Speaker 3: But I was shocked you went.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I went because because my friend Jackie was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go see this movie long legs. I go,
Speaker 1: what's that? I had not heard of it. This was
Speaker 1: like like three weeks ago. She bought tickets so early
Speaker 1: for ituse she was excited about it, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: she goes it's about a serial killer. And I was like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: I'll go see stuff like that, like I will go
Speaker 1: see serial killer stuff. And so I told Jared I
Speaker 1: want to go see this. So me and Jared went
Speaker 1: with his horror wife. The three of us went. He
Speaker 1: went with his real wife and his horror wife to
Speaker 1: go see this movie in the air. No, because I've
Speaker 1: gone to see movies with her before. Famously I went
Speaker 1: to go see Hereditary with her, and Hereditary didn't even
Speaker 1: scare me that much because I babysat for the kid
Speaker 1: that was the star of the movie. But I literally
Speaker 1: was like I went into that movie knowing absolutely nothing,
Speaker 1: And that's how I would I would tell you all
Speaker 1: to go in and see it, like I liked knowing
Speaker 1: that absolutely nothing about it.
Speaker 3: Like the tension was really good.
Speaker 1: It's beautifully shot too, It looks very beautiful, and but
Speaker 1: it's a it's a wild it's a wild ride. Well,
Speaker 1: and it has an sbu Alum in it. Claire Underwood
Speaker 1: is in it. Woo, Claire Underwood am Sex in the City, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Sex and the City, which I.
Speaker 2: Would say that is the most unlikely storyline. That is
Speaker 2: the one where I'm like the show that like this
Speaker 2: Blair Underwood, who's the doctor for the Knicks.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just don't Miranda love connection there.
Speaker 3: I'm Miranda dumpsim for Steve.
Speaker 2: Like I mean, oh, but while the list, there is
Speaker 2: this movie that she's not the lead in, but I
Speaker 2: have seen it.
Speaker 3: Did you ever watch the movie Greta.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: It is with Isabelle Huper and Chloe Grace Moretz. But
Speaker 2: it's like this weird movie and she's like an old
Speaker 2: woman with a purse and kidnaps people and there's murder
Speaker 2: through the walls.
Speaker 3: But it was just it was kind of silly. It
Speaker 3: was silly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that I feel like I heard I saw the
Speaker 1: True I wanted to see it or something, but I didn't.
Speaker 3: I still want to see Inside Out too.
Speaker 2: I'm kind and because it's so hot in New York,
Speaker 2: like going to a movie is the perfect air conditioning activity,
Speaker 2: but I have not.
Speaker 3: Done it. I'm actually trying to go back.
Speaker 2: I'm going to go for the first time to like
Speaker 2: a Long Island beach, like take the Long Island Railroad and.
Speaker 3: See oo see what that hype is all about? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm excited.
Speaker 2: I'm not you know, as long as someone else is
Speaker 2: leading the journey, I'll be okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all the way out to the Hampton's or like
Speaker 1: a closer the island beach.
Speaker 3: Okay, not Hampton's. I'm not sure what it's called.
Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm not going to be in charge,
Speaker 2: and yeah, they're gonna get me going. Oh, you're gonna
Speaker 2: love to hear this. I had one of the best
Speaker 2: tunea melts ever. Oh where at Black Seed Bagel. It's
Speaker 2: like a you know, there's it's Montreal style bagels, but
Speaker 2: I even don't see that, like I think it's but
Speaker 2: that's what they say, but it's different to me.
Speaker 3: But it was.
Speaker 2: I added bacon and avocado to it on Assessame Seed bagel. Ooh,
Speaker 2: and I ate two sides. Usually I save a side,
Speaker 2: but I couldn't. It was that good.
Speaker 3: Wow, you're making me want to tune them melt like
Speaker 3: right now. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: We're in a really specific category of people because tuna sandwiches,
Speaker 2: they feel, are very controversial.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I remember the time I had a
Speaker 1: tuna sandwich at an after party of a comedy festival
Speaker 1: and when I come up to you said you're eating
Speaker 1: tune at the after party, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed now.
Speaker 3: I was like, you're right.
Speaker 1: I guess I want to be having like conversations with
Speaker 1: people close up and I shouldn't be eating too.
Speaker 3: No, you're right.
Speaker 1: But unfortunately, like like when there's usually a lot of
Speaker 1: sandwiches at a big party, it's usually like a big
Speaker 1: Italian type of like meaty sandwich and tuna.
Speaker 3: I do eat. I eat fish, so tuna is my
Speaker 3: go to.
Speaker 1: But wait, I was going to say, oh, so this
Speaker 1: past couple of days, I know this episode is in
Speaker 1: the time machine as usual, guys, it's going to be
Speaker 1: a little bit past. But I did want to just
Speaker 1: shout out. I was very sad that Richard Simmons passed away.
Speaker 1: I was very sad that she and Doherty passed away.
Speaker 1: Doctor Ruth passed away. When I was in college, doctor
Speaker 1: Kelly Dave to my college Shelley Duvall, I mean olive
Speaker 1: oil forever. But when I was in college, the beginning
Speaker 1: of college, I don't know if you had this experience,
Speaker 1: but like at the beginning of college, people would come talk.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, I'm going that's what college is about.
Speaker 1: You go to talks. And I would go to talks
Speaker 1: at the beginning and then I don't think I went
Speaker 1: to a talk the whole end.
Speaker 3: Of college, just the first year.
Speaker 1: But I went and I saw is it Henry Lee,
Speaker 1: the one who's the famous autopsy guy Michael Badam, I
Speaker 1: don't know the other one. No, no, no, no, he's the guy.
Speaker 1: This is the guy that did Yes, Henry Lee, the
Speaker 1: forensic scientist. He did like OJ and like he was
Speaker 1: involved in the staircase. Like he's very So I saw
Speaker 1: him talk because I think at the time I was
Speaker 1: taking forensic chemistry and I was like, I gotta go
Speaker 1: to this. But I saw doctor Lee, doctor Ruth speak
Speaker 1: at the beginning of my college experience, and she was
Speaker 1: so great, so sex positive and just a cool little
Speaker 1: lady talking about fucking sex to everybody and she was great,
Speaker 1: and you know, it's just sad. It felt like we
Speaker 1: had a lot of And I was obsessed with Brenda
Speaker 1: Walsh as a young person. I know Shannon Doherty had
Speaker 1: bad politics later in her life, but I was a
Speaker 1: charge girl.
Speaker 3: I was a charge Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was a nine o two one zero and like
Speaker 1: it was like when I was growing up, everything was
Speaker 1: like you either like the blonde or you like the
Speaker 1: dark headed girl. You know, like everything was like it
Speaker 1: was Kelly versus Brenda, it was Betty versus Veronica. And
Speaker 1: I always gravitated towards the darker haired girls.
Speaker 3: I have brown hair, but I.
Speaker 1: Just like thought that they were cooler looking and attitude,
Speaker 1: I guess, and so I always liked Brenda, and uh,
Speaker 1: like I just was really sad. I remember reading articles
Speaker 1: about Shannon Doherty, like where she bought her clothes and stuff,
Speaker 1: like when I was like in Cent magazine and shit,
Speaker 1: oh like vintage and I'd be like, mom, I gotta
Speaker 1: get vintage, and she was like, what are you talking about.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, I don't know, I need vintage clothes,
Speaker 1: like I didn't even know what it meant. And I
Speaker 1: was like so into everything about Shannon Doherty when she
Speaker 1: was Brenda back in the day, and then when she
Speaker 1: left the show, I was kind of like by her
Speaker 1: and Dylan.
Speaker 3: I mean, her and.
Speaker 1: Luke Luke Perry are in heaven together now if you
Speaker 1: believe in that kind of thing. But yeah, anyway, just
Speaker 1: a sad time for that, and uh because I had
Speaker 1: just been reading about how Shannon Doherty's fucking asshole ex
Speaker 1: husband was prolonging her their divorce proceedings because he didn't
Speaker 1: want to pay her any money. So just another cool
Speaker 1: man to talk about on our podcast. You know, men
Speaker 1: doing cool things. Uh, he wanted her to die, so
Speaker 1: you would just have to to you know, never pay
Speaker 1: her a dime in alimony.
Speaker 3: It's p engross.
Speaker 2: But I okay, So obviously we've talked about this. You're
Speaker 2: going to go see Oh Mary. I did see it,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to go again. And I after a
Speaker 2: show at the Seller, I started talking to a group
Speaker 2: of people that I vibed with and so we're chatting.
Speaker 2: We're chatting, and they're visiting from out of state. They
Speaker 2: went to see Oh Mary. So I'm just like, oh
Speaker 2: my god. And the two of them are like, we
Speaker 2: loved it. And I was just like saying the jokes
Speaker 2: and whatever, and we're having fun. And then later on
Speaker 2: I bring it up to the other group, like the
Speaker 2: friends that was with them. It was a big group,
Speaker 2: and they were like, oh, yeah, they went to see it.
Speaker 2: They hated it, And I go, well, that's not what
Speaker 2: they told me. And so they they actually didn't like it,
Speaker 2: but they didn't want me to know, and so I
Speaker 2: was like, well you could have just said it. They go,
Speaker 2: we just didn't get it, like the jokes. We just
Speaker 2: wanted to feel cool and like that we understood the jokes.
Speaker 2: But in my head it was not obscured at all.
Speaker 2: Like to me, I was like, this is so universal.
Speaker 2: And I brought it up to Ted, my acting teacher
Speaker 2: that I love, and he goes, no, we're part of
Speaker 2: We're like, it's alternative.
Speaker 3: He goes, it is obscure.
Speaker 2: He goes, an absurdity is hard and I go, you know,
Speaker 2: my sister famously a lot of people hated Barbon Starr
Speaker 2: And he goes, that's very absurd, and I go, yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe it's the absurdity that's confusing. But I love that
Speaker 2: they tried to cover up that they didn't get it.
Speaker 2: But to me, there was nothing to get and I
Speaker 2: thought it was basic. And then I find out, maybe
Speaker 2: we're part of a different kind of culture.
Speaker 3: You know, this is.
Speaker 1: Why nobody is green lighting any comedy television shows or
Speaker 1: movies really, like you know what I mean, Like comedy
Speaker 1: is now so fractured that it's like you either think
Speaker 1: like Tim Allen having a problem with his neighbor is
Speaker 1: the height of comedy, or you want to see this hilarious,
Speaker 1: Like what if Mary Todd Lincoln kind of loved that
Speaker 1: her husband got shot play with a non binary star.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like we got these two ends of
Speaker 1: the spectrum of comedy and there's just no specifically with comedy,
Speaker 1: it feels like the monoculture is fully gone. You know,
Speaker 1: like with music there's always people like people can and
Speaker 1: with movies or whatever, I guess it's like, oh, we
Speaker 1: can go have fun at like a Blockbuster or whatever.
Speaker 3: But I don't know.
Speaker 1: With like comedy, I feel you like, I think it's
Speaker 1: I have to be careful what I recommend to some
Speaker 1: of my friends that I don't think are going to
Speaker 1: get some of the stuff that we think is funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just came to such a I was just
Speaker 2: so shocked. I'm like, there's nothing they get, Like that's
Speaker 2: what I thought, like in my head, I'm like, there's
Speaker 2: nothing to get. It's jokes. But I guess I guess not.
Speaker 1: Like today I was, I was texting with a group
Speaker 1: of my girls from camp right and like so they're
Speaker 1: very mixed, like some are very city oriented and with it,
Speaker 1: and some are like live on an island off the
Speaker 1: coast of Maine or in New Hampshire, whatever. And my
Speaker 1: one friend was saying how after her divorce she dated
Speaker 1: a lot of cops, and I go, oh, yeah, she's
Speaker 1: a cab. All cops are boyfriends, is the joke I
Speaker 1: made in the thing. And she was like, yeah, or
Speaker 1: all boyfriends are cops whichever, And I go, do you
Speaker 1: have you not ever heard the term acab? And she
Speaker 1: was like googling it.
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh my god, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 1: There's just like I just didn't know anybody didn't know
Speaker 1: a cab.
Speaker 3: So it's like we're.
Speaker 2: You know, damn yeah, I just I that is so
Speaker 2: funny though, that they like about the show is so palpable.
Speaker 3: You love it.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to like pop your bubble and go actually
Speaker 1: not for me or like, you know.
Speaker 2: But I love that their friend also threw them under
Speaker 2: the bus like immediately, Oh, that like made me happen. Yeah, wait,
Speaker 2: and care already knows this, but everyone knows my love
Speaker 2: of the movie Grid and Cinematrix, Vulture Game and a
Speaker 2: proud moment for me this week. I thought there was
Speaker 2: a mistake. I emailed in and they did make the
Speaker 2: correction based on my email.
Speaker 1: So I'm so proud of my cinematrix. Karen Lee's a
Speaker 1: trigger well keeping them on their toes over at Vulture.
Speaker 2: Well, because if I don't know something that I'm okay
Speaker 2: not knowing, like if I if there's two empties or
Speaker 2: I just fuck up like I'm that's fine, But knowing
Speaker 2: that I'm about to fucking crush it and then get
Speaker 2: the disrespect of a square gone it like is upsetting
Speaker 2: when yeah, it's correct. Juno is a romantic comedy that
Speaker 2: has Jennifer Garner in it, like it is what it is. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's a comedy and they end up in the end.
Speaker 1: So and how dare they and they and they shan't
Speaker 1: dare again because now they've got an updated in their
Speaker 1: in their library.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, I've I've never been There's nothing I've been
Speaker 2: this good at that I could, you know, pattle tail
Speaker 2: on like usually you know it's above my pay grade
Speaker 2: or whatnot.
Speaker 1: Oh, and I had a crazy happening you on Saturday,
Speaker 1: I took I was with our friends at the pool
Speaker 1: that we go to and there was a code brown.
Speaker 3: Someone's shit in the pool.
Speaker 1: Yep, dookie, everyone there three years I've never seen that.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: Suddenly it was like everybody, I'm not even talking about
Speaker 2: three years in that pool. I'm talking about how many
Speaker 2: years have you been alive at pools? Have you had
Speaker 2: that happen? I've never exactly, it's even you know, three years.
Speaker 2: Who cares?
Speaker 3: It's like, well, when I liftime play when.
Speaker 1: I used to play softball at mccarrian Park in Brooklyn, Like,
Speaker 1: that's the one. That's what it's called, right, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: used to play softball there. It was right next to
Speaker 1: this brand new, big community pool, and you would constantly
Speaker 1: hear everybody plays exit the water and it was because
Speaker 1: of shits. Like they would constantly have to shut that
Speaker 1: pool down because of shits apparently. But I have never
Speaker 1: been in a pool where it's happened. And it happened,
Speaker 1: and I don't know who did it. I didn't see it.
Speaker 1: I just got out, and then the workers from the
Speaker 1: place were all like trying to get we.
Speaker 3: Want to train it. What happens when they're shitt No,
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 1: They had to they have to treat it with chemicals
Speaker 1: or something. I really don't know what happens. We were
Speaker 1: gonna leave anyway, like we were giving the kids ten
Speaker 1: minute warnings anyway. So we just got out, started getting dressed,
Speaker 1: and then we got the hell out of there. But
Speaker 1: I had invited these friends with us, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm so embarrassed, like this has never happened, and they
Speaker 1: were like, wow, it's not like your kid did it.
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know what, honestly, thank god,
Speaker 1: because it easily could have been. I mean, Oscar is
Speaker 1: still in his potty learning moment, but he has never
Speaker 1: crept in a pool before. I think there's something about
Speaker 1: the pool where he's been swimming and he's gotten out
Speaker 1: and pooped in his bathing suit, but he won't do
Speaker 1: it in the water.
Speaker 3: So I got him on that. Thank god. Wow what instance?
Speaker 1: Also speaking of Oscar, who never gets any attention on
Speaker 1: this podcast, he has been religiously yelling out Lisa's house
Speaker 1: every time we passed your old apartment. So every time
Speaker 1: he was Leadsa's house, I'm like, all right, yeah, she
Speaker 1: doesn't live there anymore. He keeps they don't understand moving
Speaker 1: like that. He keeps being like, why can't she still
Speaker 1: live there, and then like their Rosie's friend just moved.
Speaker 1: They're like, why can't Isabelle still live here? Can she
Speaker 1: not go to New Jersey? And I'm like, no, guys,
Speaker 1: like this is moving. It is really sad to try
Speaker 1: to teach kids about people moving away.
Speaker 3: I know, but you know, I will see them in
Speaker 3: a month.
Speaker 1: I would say, yes, you're going to see them so soon,
Speaker 1: like honestly less time.
Speaker 3: In my head.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I would send some you know, stickers,
Speaker 2: but I'm going to see them, so I'm not doing that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: and we'll see. Maybe I will. I mean, maybe I'll
Speaker 2: surprise them.
Speaker 3: Who knows.
Speaker 2: I did want to say I did book a gig.
Speaker 2: I booked an acting gig, and you know who, printing's
Speaker 2: the nightmare. And so I asked our agency. I was like,
Speaker 2: can you just please print the script?
Speaker 3: Like I don't.
Speaker 2: I can't go because this is I don't know if
Speaker 2: it like this. The number on the paper of a
Speaker 2: script is not the same as the Google page number
Speaker 2: because there's like the cover, the list, and so it's
Speaker 2: like so hard to print like specific pages and maybe
Speaker 2: for other people it's not, but printing my sides has
Speaker 2: taken me four or five days of struggle, like I
Speaker 2: have just been on this journey printing the wrong pages,
Speaker 2: like going through So I was like, can you just
Speaker 2: please print this for me? But they bound it like ooh,
Speaker 2: like I am one of the twins on Devilwaar's Prada
Speaker 2: reading my Harry Potter on the train.
Speaker 1: The unpublished manuscript of Harry Potter is in Lisa's hand
Speaker 1: right now. They did make it look very professional.
Speaker 3: I know, I loved it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have them just print shit out for me.
Speaker 2: This feels so good.
Speaker 3: But I definitely felt like Miranda Priestley's little daughter. And
Speaker 3: then did you have to like go across town to
Speaker 3: go pick it up?
Speaker 2: Well, just uptown a little bit. It's like a few
Speaker 2: train stops for me. But someone met me in the
Speaker 2: lobby from the mail room. You know, it was.
Speaker 3: Cool, gorgeous. Yeah, request use your resources, babe.
Speaker 2: Also, I'm starting my We'll see if I continue it.
Speaker 2: You know, it's always tough to keep a diary, but
Speaker 2: you know, I feel like the end is near, so
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do my own antwering diary.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, Liza's final few months of Democracy journal.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's but my hand hurts. I'm not used to writing,
Speaker 2: like I was in physical pain. After a page and
Speaker 2: a half, I'm like, I guess I'll stop mid sentence.
Speaker 3: I can't go on, so we don't know how far
Speaker 3: I'll get.
Speaker 2: But oh yeah, all of a sudden, everything is seeming
Speaker 2: more and more dire, and I get I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think women are going to be allowed to
Speaker 2: do stand up or work or do anything.
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I'm just enjoying the last.
Speaker 2: God's I mean, I hope I'm wrong, but in my
Speaker 2: head it's like, okay, like you guys aren't shy, you
Speaker 2: do not want women out and about, and I'm very
Speaker 2: out and about, and so I'm just getting ready.
Speaker 3: I'm building up my memories.
Speaker 2: So when I'm just like back to you know, I
Speaker 2: don't know, I'm selling water bottles.
Speaker 1: You have to take You have to find a gay
Speaker 1: guy friend that you can like fake Mary so that
Speaker 1: you can keep up the appearance of a uh, you know,
Speaker 1: heteronormative nuclear fantasy.
Speaker 2: Say I'm sending a text right now, but he he
Speaker 2: has a bob, like they're gonna know he's gonna get
Speaker 2: a air cut.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to be like I call you your
Speaker 1: mine when when this all goes down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm texting right now. Actually yeah, fear.
Speaker 2: My fingers are click and a clacking fear very fast.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Well wait the journal thing, that's so fun.
Speaker 1: I literally, I mean you've heard of morning pages right
Speaker 1: from the Artist's Way, where you just get up and
Speaker 1: you type like morning pages. There's a website version of
Speaker 1: that because I was like, I'll never write that. It's
Speaker 1: basically like the premises, like you wake up in the
Speaker 1: morning and you just do your morning pages. You just
Speaker 1: write whatever comes to your mind, right right, right, right right.
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a certain number amount of
Speaker 1: time or whatever, but they made a computer version of
Speaker 1: it that's called like seven hundred and fifty words. And
Speaker 1: that's what I had to do because I physically cannot
Speaker 1: write with my hands.
Speaker 2: Like already, because technology might be like done, I might
Speaker 2: not have electricity, Like this is something I gotta get done,
Speaker 2: hide somewhere for you know whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm getting all my glasses re prescribed or whatever.
Speaker 1: My prescriptions changed in all my glasses because we can't
Speaker 1: be using contacts.
Speaker 3: When the world ends, you know.
Speaker 1: Well, or you can get lasick. Sorry to bring that up.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 2: That is the best thing for the end of the world.
Speaker 2: Sorry to burst your bubble. You need a life straw.
Speaker 2: You need a gun.
Speaker 3: And I heard about that.
Speaker 1: I heard about that, and I guess the deem on
Speaker 1: NPR in twenty sixteen, like after Trump was elected, millionaires
Speaker 1: and billionaires were going to get we're building bunkers.
Speaker 2: Already a man already, this gay man one hundred. But
Speaker 2: will you take care of me even he wants a
Speaker 2: fucking housewife. Yeah, I'll sweep, I'll sweep, but he's got
Speaker 2: to take out trash.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: Sorry, but to you, you were talking about life straw.
Speaker 2: You got to get lacey. But I'm scared, like I wouldn't. Also,
Speaker 2: my mom being old is so weird. Like she just
Speaker 2: called me and casually was like, yeah, I have cataracts.
Speaker 3: I'm like, excuse me.
Speaker 1: Oh, my parents had them too, and they acted the
Speaker 1: same way. My parents acted like no big deal. And
Speaker 1: then they got cataract surgery. And now my dad doesn't
Speaker 1: have to wear glasses anymore, which is so weird. He's
Speaker 1: been wearing them my entire life.
Speaker 2: Well, this is good I'm gonna tell him mom, because
Speaker 2: she's obviously like, oh, I'm just gonna wait till the
Speaker 2: final moments, and we'll see what happens when I lose
Speaker 2: my vision fully and maybe I should be like, well,
Speaker 2: maybe you won't even have to wear glasses.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my parents got cataract stuff and it just fully
Speaker 1: fixed their vision.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll bring it up to them. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: so we could start the episode.
Speaker 1: We could start yeah, yeah, but let's get started. We
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Speaker 1: into this episode. Okay, if you thought last week's episode
Speaker 1: Shadow was wild, get ready for fat. This episode is
Speaker 1: from season seven. It's episode twenty. It came out in
Speaker 1: two thousand and six. I guess, let's just keep.
Speaker 3: That in mind.
Speaker 1: But again, so yeah, not all you know episodes of
Speaker 1: the show. Hold up, we do think this is a
Speaker 1: wild one. We wanted to cover it, but you know,
Speaker 1: we're never really not on board with a lot of
Speaker 1: the terminology and some of the points of view in
Speaker 1: this episode.
Speaker 3: So we'll talk about it as they arise.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we open on Jesus' shit immediately with Stabler's
Speaker 1: voice and confession, and he says, it's been two years
Speaker 1: since his last confession, and I'm shocked.
Speaker 3: I thought he was churching on the regular.
Speaker 1: I thought he was like, your honor, I threw a
Speaker 1: suspect up against the filing cabinet, you know whatever, your
Speaker 1: honor father. Sorry, I shouldn't have done that. I watched
Speaker 1: too much just for you. The judges are my priests.
Speaker 1: So he confesses I was selfish, I was disrespectful.
Speaker 3: I lost my temper and I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: And the priest is like, bro, after two years of
Speaker 1: no confession, that's all you did wrong?
Speaker 3: Like, tell me what's really bothering you? Elliott?
Speaker 1: And I thought I was supposed to kind of be anonymous,
Speaker 1: like I do. Think it's weird.
Speaker 3: The priest.
Speaker 1: I calls him by his name, like you're supposed to
Speaker 1: sit facing sideways and I don't know, Casey, you're Catholic, right,
Speaker 1: It's true, I am. Do they ever say, okay, Casey,
Speaker 1: are you supposed to case you shouldn't have done that?
Speaker 5: No? I mean historically there was like you know, the
Speaker 5: confessional booth, you weren't able to see the person's face.
Speaker 5: Supposed to be kind of anonymous and then like sometimes
Speaker 5: even when it's like face to face, the priest will
Speaker 5: like kind of like turn turn away as it to
Speaker 5: kind of like have like the ceremony of it being anonymous,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 1: So it's maybe maybe this guy, maybe this priest is
Speaker 1: an SVU fan, and he's like, I'm obviously gonna recognize
Speaker 1: your voice Chris Maloney. So Elliot's like, I keep losing people,
Speaker 1: and the priest is like, like your family, and Elliott says,
Speaker 1: my family, my kids, friends, And then the priest goes
Speaker 1: friends you mean someone at work?
Speaker 3: Why would you jump right to that? Like what are you? Are?
Speaker 5: You? Like?
Speaker 1: Is the priest on team Benchler like, it's weird to
Speaker 1: be like I'm losing friends?
Speaker 3: Is it somebody from Why would you ask that? It's weird?
Speaker 1: I don't think he has friends? Maybe yeah, yeah, they're
Speaker 1: like that's true. They're like, Elliott, you've never had a
Speaker 1: friend your whole damn life. So anyway, right when things
Speaker 1: are getting juicy and confession, Elliott's beeper goes off and
Speaker 1: interrupts the confession, and Stabler's like gotta go, and the
Speaker 1: priest is like, all right, but you should come back
Speaker 1: and give me the juicy shit because this was boring,
Speaker 1: and he blesses him in Latin and then says, for
Speaker 1: your penance, call your wife. You know we have a
Speaker 1: game of Call of Us. We should also do like
Speaker 1: start one where people like you. That's on the SVU
Speaker 1: Bingo Kard too, where someone tells Elliott call Kathy please
Speaker 1: he please check in on your the number of people
Speaker 1: on this show who are just trying to help him
Speaker 1: be a better husband and father and like he like
Speaker 1: never does it anyway. Elliott is now getting out of
Speaker 1: his car at a crime scene and there's a guy
Speaker 1: who's immediately giving Stabler's ship before he even introduces himself.
Speaker 1: And his name is Detective Lucius Blaine from Queen's SVU,
Speaker 1: who is played by Anthony Anderson, who is obviously was
Speaker 1: the star of Blackish and who also was on the
Speaker 1: Law and Order original recipe for a really long time
Speaker 1: and kangaroo Jack. Yes, and he in the spirit of
Speaker 1: like when we did the episode with Buzz from Home alone,
Speaker 1: and we did, we had to like later say we
Speaker 1: didn't know he had like DV accusations.
Speaker 3: We were like, we just can't be googling.
Speaker 1: We have gotten a few people that have said let
Speaker 1: me be the person that googles all the bad guys
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 3: I just don't know logistically how that would work.
Speaker 1: But Anthony Anderson just does not have good reputation and
Speaker 1: has accusations against him. So he plays a jerk in
Speaker 1: this episode and I'm pretty sure one in real life.
Speaker 3: So that's that.
Speaker 1: And he is gonna be partners with Elliott right now.
Speaker 1: So just to refresh everybody's memory, the episode right before
Speaker 1: this was Fault, and that was the lou Diamond Phillips
Speaker 1: episode where you know, he plays Frank Gaetano. He kills
Speaker 1: a little boy right in front of and Stabler didn't
Speaker 1: get the chance to get to him because he he
Speaker 1: had helped live instead, and so it was all about
Speaker 1: whether like he cares too much about Olivia that he
Speaker 1: can't do his job. And at the end of that episode,
Speaker 1: Benson asked for new partner, but really it was Murshacargata
Speaker 1: asking for maternity leave, because this is one of the
Speaker 1: first episodes that she's not his full partner.
Speaker 3: I mean, she's spoiler. She comes on a little bit
Speaker 3: later in.
Speaker 1: The episode, but she's not with SVU in this episode.
Speaker 1: And then I think infiltrated might be her first big
Speaker 1: episode back after she has her kids, and that's like
Speaker 1: the sixth episode of the next season. So the first
Speaker 1: thing we see at this crime scene is like a
Speaker 1: girl being wheeled on a stretcher to an ambulance. And
Speaker 1: the first thing this guy Lucius says is victim's a
Speaker 1: teenage hotty. Not a great start, Okay, I'm not loving
Speaker 1: him immediately calling a victor of the.
Speaker 2: Thing that's even crazier about all this is he's not
Speaker 2: just a cop from a different precinct. And what you know,
Speaker 2: he comes in from drunk, yes, undercover. He is Queen's
Speaker 2: SVU exactly, talking about young hotties like rat is crazy.
Speaker 3: Exactly, Like that's what I was thinking.
Speaker 1: I go, it's not like he's one of these guys
Speaker 1: that they have to teach him how to deal with
Speaker 1: victims like you are from SVU in another burrow. And
Speaker 1: then he says, no purse, no panties, head trauma, ligature
Speaker 1: marks and her finger was sliced clean off. So now
Speaker 1: we've got friend of the Pod o'haleran there with more info.
Speaker 1: He's like, there were fresh tire tracks and there were
Speaker 1: definitely two perps because of the footprints and they dragged
Speaker 1: her from the car, and you know, this is like
Speaker 1: where the assault took place. So he says he can
Speaker 1: tell from the footprint identification that the guys aren't small
Speaker 1: like the The amount that they were pressed into the
Speaker 1: mud shows that these were larger people the purpse. Okay,
Speaker 1: So Lucius Blaine goes, get me an id on the
Speaker 1: tires and the shoes, and o'hallaran looks kind of stunned,
Speaker 1: like who the fuck are you, and like you see
Speaker 1: him sort of slow turned to Stabler, like who is this?
Speaker 3: And Stabler just.
Speaker 1: Like wants to know who found the victim, and Lucius goes,
Speaker 1: Marie Antoinette over there. I don't get this reference because
Speaker 1: he's just referring to like a woman that looks sort
Speaker 1: of unhoused and like a little bit you know, wacky,
Speaker 1: and O'Halleran goes, yeah, her footprints are all over the
Speaker 1: scene as well, and Lucius goes, oh really and has
Speaker 1: like a light bulb moment and he storms over to
Speaker 1: where this redheaded, like unhoused woman is just talking to
Speaker 1: the to the uniform cops, turns her around forcefully and
Speaker 1: starts frisking her up against the car, grabbing something she
Speaker 1: has in her jacket, and she's like.
Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't steal it. It was on the ground
Speaker 3: and it's the victim.
Speaker 1: So he was right, he was correct, But I feel
Speaker 1: like there was another way he could have gone about it,
Speaker 1: Like you could have just gone up to her and
Speaker 1: been like, ma'm I'm gonna need to pat you down,
Speaker 1: And instead he like went and kind of like assaulted
Speaker 1: her up against the car and patted her down really aggressively.
Speaker 1: And he but he finds the victims like purse and
Speaker 1: it has her id. Her name is Jessica Delay. It's
Speaker 1: her school ID from William Osler High School where it
Speaker 1: says she's in eleventh grade. Then he looks in the
Speaker 1: bag and says, oh my god. And the cutoff finger
Speaker 1: is in the bag, much like the balls that we
Speaker 1: have already discussed being found in an ice bucket. Stabler's like,
Speaker 1: let's go, we can get we can, you know?
Speaker 3: And then this is the thing.
Speaker 2: So he like empties out some ice coffee, keeps the
Speaker 2: ice and throws the finger in there. Can you just
Speaker 2: mix coffee in a in a wound of a loose finger,
Speaker 2: Like I just know the coffee of it all was like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe it's better without coffee ice, Yeah, infections,
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe ask the doctor.
Speaker 3: Does the ambulance is right there? Did they? Yeah, the
Speaker 3: ambulance is right there.
Speaker 1: Do they have like an ice pack or something they
Speaker 1: could wrap that thing and it's not doesn't have a
Speaker 1: latte in it?
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, that's so true, but blood.
Speaker 1: This guy Lucius goes back at this poor woman who
Speaker 1: just found the body and then decided to keep a purse,
Speaker 1: and it's like, you cut off her finger, you freaking witch.
Speaker 3: And she's like no, we're just lying on the ground.
Speaker 1: So he's like screaming at her and he's like, so
Speaker 1: you took her money and needed the ring too, So
Speaker 1: I guess the ring the finger they cut off had
Speaker 1: a ring on it, and so that's why she took
Speaker 1: it because she wanted the ring. And so Stablers like,
Speaker 1: we can still save the finger. Let's do the ice
Speaker 1: coffee move. So Stabler grabs the finger ice and he
Speaker 1: goes to accompany the victim to the hospital and the ambulance.
Speaker 1: Him and Lucius like share a look through the ambulance
Speaker 1: glass and then that is the credits. Okay, so top
Speaker 1: of Act one, we're at the hospital as the victim
Speaker 1: Jessica's being prepped for surgery. The doctor's saying we might
Speaker 1: be able to save the finger thanks to Stabler and
Speaker 1: his coffee ice. And the doc says she was sodomized
Speaker 1: with a blunt object, and that is one of my
Speaker 1: least favorite lines to hear on this show, you know,
Speaker 1: like we've heard it before.
Speaker 3: I hate it.
Speaker 1: The doc also revealed that the perps tried to cut
Speaker 1: off her hands altogether but couldn't get through the bone,
Speaker 1: so they went with the finger, and he tells Stabler
Speaker 1: he can talk to the victim after surgery. In walks Lucius,
Speaker 1: who says the victim's mom is on the way and
Speaker 1: wants to know Stabler's question Jessica. Yet, then they see
Speaker 1: her being rolled out of the elevator. How they know
Speaker 1: it's hers beyond me. She's so far away, surrounded by
Speaker 1: hospital staff, like lying on a bed, tubes, you know,
Speaker 1: ivy bags, and Blaine acts like a complete freak and
Speaker 1: runs up to her hospital gurney like a craze paparazzo,
Speaker 1: being like Jessica, Jessica, tell me what happened, Let me know,
Speaker 1: Just tell me something, and she's like fully unconscious, if
Speaker 1: not sedated, like it's so inappropriate, and again.
Speaker 2: Is but Benson in a nicer way, but has done this.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Like Benson is chased trying to get evidence
Speaker 2: and so quietly not screaming.
Speaker 3: She's been like, Jessica, do you remember anything?
Speaker 1: Like if a victim even mumbles a word and then
Speaker 1: they don't come out of surgery, it's like, at least
Speaker 1: you have that.
Speaker 3: I get why Benson does that. This man is truly screaming.
Speaker 1: At her and like you know, running after her, like
Speaker 1: she wasn't even the cop that was in the ambulance
Speaker 1: with him, Like maybe Stabler has a rapport with her
Speaker 1: from writing in the ambulance, but like Jesus, this man's
Speaker 1: out of nowhere after he beat up this redheaded woman
Speaker 1: who he called Marie Antoinette again not getting it did
Speaker 1: she have red hair anyway?
Speaker 3: So Stabler's like.
Speaker 1: Dude, calm the fuck down, like telling like, scaring this
Speaker 1: girl isn't gonna get us anything, and It's like, don't worry.
Speaker 1: She didn't hear anything to be scared because she was
Speaker 1: fully unconscious, it looked, and Lucia's apolog apologizes and then goes,
Speaker 1: I forgot I was dealing with detective sensitive and then
Speaker 1: he storms off, which isn't even a good insult or
Speaker 1: diss or clever or RT like there's nothing to that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like I hope you never meet an actually sensitive
Speaker 1: person or like Olivia Benson, you know, like Stabler's the
Speaker 1: least sensitive person.
Speaker 2: It's legit, Seinfeld, I went to the jerk store and
Speaker 2: added Jar like, it's like, what are you saying right now?
Speaker 3: I went to the jerk store totally.
Speaker 1: So now Stabler's complaining to Daddy Craigan, like why did
Speaker 1: you give me this blow hard? And Craigan's like, Queen's
Speaker 1: us few loves him. They say he's good, so like,
Speaker 1: so then why they dumped like.
Speaker 3: Why is he not there? Like why is he here?
Speaker 1: Why they dump him on us? And Stabler wants to know,
Speaker 1: like where's Benson? And we never really find out why
Speaker 1: Lucius came there at all, besides the fact that they
Speaker 1: needed a guest star because Maurice carget they needed less
Speaker 1: screen time because she's pregnant Benson. Stabler says she's a
Speaker 1: computer crimes and he goes, you needed a break from
Speaker 1: each other, and then Stabler's like, in whose opinion and
Speaker 1: Craigan goes the decision has been made, and then Cragan
Speaker 1: walks off and Blaine brings Craigan up to speed on
Speaker 1: the case. He's like, we've idd the tires. They're pretty common.
Speaker 1: The shoes are quatros, and then based on the princes,
Speaker 1: creep number one is five ten and creep number two
Speaker 1: is five eight. They're throwing shade at Stabler for not
Speaker 1: letting him talk to the victim. Both of them like
Speaker 1: it's kind of like he's doing it, and Craigan's like, oh,
Speaker 1: and it's like.
Speaker 3: It's very delusional. You could not speak to her. She
Speaker 3: was going into.
Speaker 1: Surgery and she was probably grabbed anywhere between her school
Speaker 1: and the subway station, and CSU said that she was
Speaker 1: probably attacked, like exactly where she was found due to
Speaker 1: the amount of blood. Craigan's like, you got anything of
Speaker 1: value to add to Stabler and Stabler's like thanks, Dad.
Speaker 1: He says, well, it was personal. They didn't take any
Speaker 1: money or credit cards. They just wanted to inflict pain.
Speaker 1: And then Lucius is like, well, why did they steal
Speaker 1: her cell phone? And they're all like, well, how do
Speaker 1: you even know she had a cell phone, and he's like,
Speaker 1: she's sixteen with three credit cards. She had a cell phone,
Speaker 1: Which that's a good point, you know, it is a
Speaker 1: good point. It's two thousand and six, even I had
Speaker 1: gotten a cell phone, you know, four years earlier. Another
Speaker 1: thing they didn't take munch pipes in is her Health
Speaker 1: department ID card. Craigan's like, I never heard of a
Speaker 1: teen working for the Health department, and neither has anyone else.
Speaker 1: So it's a fake ID and it's got a number
Speaker 1: on the back belonging to someone named Rufus Brownell and
Speaker 1: inspector at the department, and they give his license plate number.
Speaker 1: And then the next scene we see is like that
Speaker 1: license plate through binoculars, and we're seeing this guy in
Speaker 1: his car with a young woman in the front seat
Speaker 1: and they're sort of talking closely, but you don't really
Speaker 1: know what's going on.
Speaker 3: This I will say, I'm about.
Speaker 1: To explain it, but this is one of the wildest
Speaker 1: little like side plots of all that I've seen. In
Speaker 1: as for you, Stabler and Lucius are peeping through Bino's
Speaker 1: and the minute that Sabler says he's got a little
Speaker 1: friend in there with him. Lucius, like an absolute psycho,
Speaker 1: just goes off. He gets out of the car, runs
Speaker 1: straight for this guy's car, opens the door, pulls the
Speaker 1: guy out screaming, and goes, get your hands off of her,
Speaker 1: Like he is truly like a rookie with a cocaine problem.
Speaker 1: He has no idea who this guy is, what the
Speaker 1: relationship is to the woman, Like it's truly unhinged. He's
Speaker 1: got the guy pinned up against the car screaming at
Speaker 1: him when Stabler, of all people, has to diffuse the situation,
Speaker 1: and this guy's like I work for the help department.
Speaker 1: I'm helping this woman Laurie, like I'm helping her fix her.
Speaker 1: This is a tobacco sting, Like, lol, what is happening? Like,
Speaker 1: I know it's two thousand and six in this episode,
Speaker 1: and I do know smoking is a major problem because
Speaker 1: I did it for way too long, which.
Speaker 2: And I regret it, but like I just it's like
Speaker 2: hard to even imagine you as a smoker, honestly.
Speaker 1: I know, but oh boy, did I love it and
Speaker 1: did I do it constantly? But just there's so much
Speaker 1: money that the police could be spending money on, and
Speaker 1: like kids smoking cigarettes it's like, I don't know, let's
Speaker 1: I get that cigarettes.
Speaker 2: Cops or is it just like a program? Isn't he
Speaker 2: like doing some people.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry, not cops, like the health department.
Speaker 1: No, but like like later in this episode, they literally
Speaker 1: talk about health departments like the cops have better ways
Speaker 1: to waste money, like robot dogs, Like I don't know,
Speaker 1: but like cigarettes. In my episode they talk about how
Speaker 1: like clinics for people with diabetes are being shut down,
Speaker 1: and here they're like, no, we got to have informants.
Speaker 1: And this guy working stings twenty four hours a day
Speaker 1: to bus people who are selling SIGs. It's like, I
Speaker 1: think the laws passing about not being able to do
Speaker 1: it outside don't market to kids.
Speaker 3: I agree with all of it.
Speaker 1: I just didn't think tobacco stings would be effective. This
Speaker 1: guy proves me wrong later, Okay, trying to catch stores
Speaker 1: selling cigarettes to miners.
Speaker 3: He said she's sixteen.
Speaker 1: He pays them eight bucks an hour, and he's like,
Speaker 1: the fake idea is.
Speaker 3: Part of it. It makes the kids feel important, like
Speaker 3: part of a team.
Speaker 1: And then meanwhile, the little girl Laurie goes, what do
Speaker 1: you mean it's fake? Like she loved that she had
Speaker 1: a legit Health Department ID and now she's piss So
Speaker 1: they show him Jessica's ID and they tell him about
Speaker 1: her attack and they're like, you use kids as bait
Speaker 1: and you don't think they could get hurt And he's like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm always close, so nothing bad happens, and Lucia's is like,
Speaker 1: tell that to Jessica.
Speaker 3: It's like a little bit dramatic. I don't know if
Speaker 3: this had anything to do with.
Speaker 1: Cigarettes, and he asks for they ask for a list
Speaker 1: of the stores that she's been working at for him,
Speaker 1: and it would be wild for someone to attack that
Speaker 1: violently because of a tobacco sting, like you know, a punch,
Speaker 1: maybe like.
Speaker 3: Trying to saw off your hand. A little wild.
Speaker 1: So now they're at Rufus's office and he's showing them
Speaker 1: a app of Manhattan with flags all over showing the
Speaker 1: stores he's rated. So it's like hilarious to me, like
Speaker 1: he's Carrie Matheson, like trying to stop cigarette sellers, but
Speaker 1: like how much time and resources are going into this.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just this man and he's a one man
Speaker 1: operation and he gets forty thousand dollars a year, in
Speaker 1: which case carry on anyway. They show him the blue
Speaker 1: flags are the stores that he raided with Jessica, and
Speaker 1: there's a lot of them, and he goes, she took
Speaker 1: the job seriously. And then Lucius is like, meanwhile, if
Speaker 1: I was sixteen to walk into Bodega's and try to
Speaker 1: buy cigarettes for eight dollars an hour, sign me up.
Speaker 1: That's like the best job you could ever get as
Speaker 1: a teen. That sounds awesome. Plus a fake health department,
Speaker 1: I d card I'm in. Lucius is like, it's not
Speaker 1: a job, dude, Like you're putting kids at risk, and
Speaker 1: he's like more harm than cigarettes. He's like, where I
Speaker 1: do these stings, smoking is down by fifty percent, and
Speaker 1: again I cannot believe that's true. But if those are
Speaker 1: the stats, I can't believe Neil Bher would put a
Speaker 1: fake stat on the show.
Speaker 3: So I do like that the guy. The guy is like,
Speaker 3: I'm helping these kids.
Speaker 1: So Stabler points out that losing your tobacco license, though,
Speaker 1: is a huge incomes for these stores, and have any
Speaker 1: of these places threatened her? And he goes, well, one
Speaker 1: guy got a little rough, and he pops in a
Speaker 1: VHS and we see footage of Jessica paying for SIGs
Speaker 1: and leaving, and suddenly the guy goes after her and
Speaker 1: grabs her. But then right away Rufus runs in and
Speaker 1: he says, the second there's trouble, I'm in And that
Speaker 1: store owner is named Hobzid Latif and it's the third
Speaker 1: time he's been caught this year selling SIGs to little ones.
Speaker 3: And the store is two blocks from where her body
Speaker 3: was found.
Speaker 1: So we cut to the store and they're like, do
Speaker 1: you remember Jessica, And he's like, I remember that little bitch,
Speaker 1: like he does not like her, and he's like, she
Speaker 1: costs me thousands of bucks and I like that too,
Speaker 1: and he says I never touched her. The girl comes in,
Speaker 1: she wants cigarettes. He says, you're too young. She says,
Speaker 1: come on, I won't tell anyone.
Speaker 3: And she's really pretty.
Speaker 1: And then Lucius gazes at her fake health department idea
Speaker 1: and goes, yeah, she is a hotty, all right, And
Speaker 1: it's really gross because he's already called her a hotty,
Speaker 1: so first of all, a child. Second of all, it's
Speaker 1: like a work id photo with fluorescent lighting. It's not
Speaker 1: like she's trying to look hot in the photo, like
Speaker 1: you're projecting pervert shit on her. And so the guy's like,
Speaker 1: she's flirting with me, like what could I do? And
Speaker 1: Lucius pretends to be on his side and he goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: what could you do? And then he turns and he says, pervert,
Speaker 1: you get turned on my little children. It's like, again, sir,
Speaker 1: you have called her a hotty two times as her
Speaker 1: body was being loaded into an ambulance one of the times.
Speaker 1: And Lucius is trying to rev this guy up and
Speaker 1: he's like, no, she called me names and he laughed
Speaker 1: at me and I lost my license, but I swear
Speaker 1: I did not touch her. So Stabler interrupts this tense
Speaker 1: interrogation happening in the middle of a bodiga and Lucius goes,
Speaker 1: what and Stabler goes, nice shoes are those quatros? So
Speaker 1: why don't we take mister Hamzad for a little walk
Speaker 1: through the crime scene. So everybody's wearing these quatros, which
Speaker 1: are probably like, you know, Nike Airs or something, or
Speaker 1: Air Jordans or something. Sound like a fucking fifty year
Speaker 1: old I'm like Nike Airs, Air Jordans. They make this
Speaker 1: guy walk over to the crime scene and then go
Speaker 1: tell him to stand in the mud behind.
Speaker 3: The police tape.
Speaker 1: It makes absolutely no sense, like, just go stand in
Speaker 1: this crime scene and leave a shoeprint. We're just gonna
Speaker 1: see if you're the guy. So Halloran also stops the
Speaker 1: insanity by going, there's no point I told you earlier
Speaker 1: that based on the depths of the footprints these guys
Speaker 1: are larger. That one purp would be two forty the
Speaker 1: other one would be three hundred pounds. This man looks
Speaker 1: like he weighs one hundred and fifty pounds. So Stabler
Speaker 1: tells hom said, thanks for your time, have a good day,
Speaker 1: go back to your cigarette less bodega. Stabler gets a
Speaker 1: ringy dinghy on his little flip phone and we're gonna
Speaker 1: get a lot of delicious mid two thousands phones in
Speaker 1: the show, and this is just the first one. So
Speaker 1: now we're at Melinda's house and she's like, where's Benson
Speaker 1: And it's like touchy subject, don't bring it up. Stabler
Speaker 1: goes reassigned, and then he introduces Lucius to her. She goes,
Speaker 1: I ran tests on the stain on Jessica's clothing, and
Speaker 1: there were two blood types, and she can tell that
Speaker 1: one of the blood types is a girl who's going
Speaker 1: through puberty, and we're looking for a two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty pounds girl, says Lucius, and Melinda says yes, and
Speaker 1: her glucose is through the roof. So when you arrest her,
Speaker 1: tell her she has type two diabetes. That's the end
Speaker 1: of Act one, all right, So I don't know why
Speaker 1: they're acting incredulous, like a girl can't be heavier. It's
Speaker 1: very confusing dialogue.
Speaker 3: Anyway.
Speaker 1: Back at the precinct, Craigan is like, so, we're looking
Speaker 1: for kids, and Stabler is like, yeah, two very large kids.
Speaker 3: Again. I don't like the way they're talking about these
Speaker 3: people any more than you guys do.
Speaker 1: But they still haven't spoken to Jessica. She was sedated
Speaker 1: post op and then her mom wouldn't let them talk.
Speaker 3: She was too upset.
Speaker 1: They reattached the finger, but they have no clue she'll
Speaker 1: ever be able to use it again. Craigan asks, oh,
Speaker 1: so how's Blaine doing, and Stabler lies and goes great.
Speaker 1: So now they're at Mercy and they're questioning Jessica, and
Speaker 1: this is the actress Rooney Mara, who I simply do
Speaker 1: not recognize here, Like she just doesn't look like herself
Speaker 1: to me, like I have seen a lot of things
Speaker 1: she's in and I don't recognize her.
Speaker 3: I feel like she looks super young. I wonder how
Speaker 3: old she is.
Speaker 1: And she has sisters, of course, with fellow SVU alum
Speaker 1: Kate Mara from the episode Pixies, which we have done
Speaker 1: at live shows. And in case you don't know this,
Speaker 1: she is from an extremely rich family which on both
Speaker 1: sides owns separate NFL teams, like one of her parents
Speaker 1: families owns the Giants and the other one owns the Steelers.
Speaker 1: And I actually knew the Giants because where I grew
Speaker 1: up in Connecticut is three.
Speaker 3: Houses away from the New York border.
Speaker 1: And she went to high school like down the street
Speaker 1: for me in New York, like Westchester County, And I
Speaker 1: had heard about this family that owned the Giants live
Speaker 1: then that like the daughters were actresses like when I
Speaker 1: was younger. So yeah, and I think Saint Jermaine dance.
Speaker 1: Saint Jermain went to high school with one of them
Speaker 1: or both of them. That's a comedy friend of ours.
Speaker 1: Not to name drop anyway.
Speaker 3: Rooney Mara, aka.
Speaker 1: NFL Heiress, is in the hospital sitting there with like
Speaker 1: you know, obviously bandages on her face and bruises, and
Speaker 1: there's a boy sitting there as well, named Tommy, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, jesus, another Tommy, like whoever, I forgot our
Speaker 1: listener's name who always sends us the Tommy lists, but like,
Speaker 1: add this one on there another Tommy Strahan this guy.
Speaker 3: So she's like, I don't really remember much. I left
Speaker 3: school at one thirty.
Speaker 1: I was heading to the subway to go to Tommy's apartment,
Speaker 1: who's supposed to be her boyfriend, I guess, although they
Speaker 1: don't like explicit say it.
Speaker 3: And she took her usual shortcut through an alley.
Speaker 1: Then she hearde a van behind her, heard footsteps, and
Speaker 1: then there was a bag over her head and she
Speaker 1: was being dragged into the van, and the next thing
Speaker 1: she remembers, she's in the hospital. And she does remember
Speaker 1: that when she was in the van there was more
Speaker 1: than one person. She has no enemies, no school feud.
Speaker 1: She says, I get along with everyone. I have a
Speaker 1: lot of friends. And that's always what the popular girls
Speaker 1: who murder people say on the show. And Tommy Stabler goes, Tommy,
Speaker 1: is that true? And he goes why are you asking me?
Speaker 1: He gives me holding March vibes immediately, like he is
Speaker 1: giving me weird vibes of that guy. He's like, I'm
Speaker 1: asking you because you guys are friends, and he's like, yes,
Speaker 1: she has no enemies. So then Stabler goes, but we
Speaker 1: think your attackers knew you, so you probably know them.
Speaker 3: And then Jessica turns on the tears and it's like,
Speaker 3: why are you making me go through this?
Speaker 1: And Tommy is like, you're upsetting her and Stabler's like,
Speaker 1: we're literally just trying to figure out.
Speaker 3: Who hurt her.
Speaker 1: And then they're like, did you have your cell phone
Speaker 1: with you at the time of the attack, and she says,
Speaker 1: I think I did, but they didn't find it. Tommy's like,
Speaker 1: so those bastards stole it, and Stabler's like, yeah, but
Speaker 1: why wouldn't they take anything else?
Speaker 3: And he goes.
Speaker 1: She goes, why are you being so mean? Please get
Speaker 1: out and leave me alone, like very much. The girl
Speaker 1: who turns on the tears to shut down the conversation.
Speaker 1: Getting out of the elevator at the precinct, Lucius goes,
Speaker 1: in Queens, we treat a victim like a victim? What
Speaker 1: what does this flip around all her, calling her a
Speaker 1: hattie and screaming questions at her as she's unconscious going
Speaker 1: into surgery, and Stabler goes, then go back to Queen's
Speaker 1: and he goes, and then he tells Craigan, we didn't
Speaker 1: get much out of Jessica, Lucia says, because Stabler intimidated her.
Speaker 1: And Stabler's like, I'm not buying her little miss innocent routine.
Speaker 1: You saw how she led on that store owner, which
Speaker 1: is weird of Stabler. It's like she is a child,
Speaker 1: Like what do you mean she was like leading on
Speaker 1: a store owner. It's in a grainy it's grainy footage
Speaker 1: from a bodego. You don't know what was happening.
Speaker 3: And Neil Baar had the flu this week. Yeah, seriously,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, it's just it's it's right. They must have
Speaker 2: talked about it, like that's the thing. Hopefully our mold
Speaker 2: can get it. Like they must have been like, well
Speaker 2: that was a weird one.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: They're making hundreds of episodes. There's can't win them away.
Speaker 1: But these are funny. I mean, these are wild ones.
Speaker 1: Like you gotta have some that, like, you know, grab
Speaker 1: the balls.
Speaker 2: I just don't like the flip around like this is.
Speaker 3: This she is a whore? Like what is happening? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 3: her dream? Maybe? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Maybe he was about to say he's like Lizzie Board
Speaker 2: and I'm morphine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Lucius, who thinks that he's a fucking SVU superstar,
Speaker 1: goes good for her. She took down a drug pedaling
Speaker 1: thief who had a thing for schoolgirls, and Stabler's like,
Speaker 1: the guy was selling SIGs tables on my side.
Speaker 3: He's like, I mean there's SIGs. I do think smoking
Speaker 3: is awful. I hate smoking. I'm you know, I'm so
Speaker 3: happy to be quit now. You like you think it's
Speaker 3: no big deal that kids are smoking, is what you're
Speaker 3: basically said.
Speaker 1: I cannot believe that sting operations where places lose their
Speaker 1: cigarette license is reducing team smoking. I just simply don't
Speaker 1: believe that correlation. I think there are commercials about how
Speaker 1: it makes you stink, it makes your fucking teeth yellow,
Speaker 1: like it's not cool.
Speaker 3: I think that probably does more to influence teens.
Speaker 1: Than Oh shit, my local bodego where I used to
Speaker 1: buy SIGs got busted. I guess I don't smoke anymore.
Speaker 1: Kids always find a way, and you know that as
Speaker 1: well as I do. So much interrupts with the extra
Speaker 1: curricular report on Jessica. He's like, she's a busy bee,
Speaker 1: she's in plays concerts.
Speaker 3: Debate.
Speaker 1: Turns out her last concert was at the Koreta Scott
Speaker 1: King Orchestra.
Speaker 3: What are we talking about?
Speaker 1: There's schools playing with different orchestras, but they don't explain it.
Speaker 3: Sabler goes, Okay, let's start there.
Speaker 1: Her attackers obviously knew she played piano, because what better
Speaker 1: way to fuck up a pianist than chop off a finger?
Speaker 3: Okay, interesting observation.
Speaker 1: At the high school, they're asking the principal if there
Speaker 1: are any heavy kids in orchestra, and he's like, it
Speaker 1: used to be that the heavier kids played music to
Speaker 1: get out a pe, but now we don't have pe
Speaker 1: and a third of the school is overweight. They try
Speaker 1: to serve more fruit and salad in the cafeteria, but
Speaker 1: kids like burgers and fries. And there's half a dozen
Speaker 1: fast food places on this block. And the episode is
Speaker 1: obviously trying to say something about childhood obesity. Here are
Speaker 1: they saying it in a clunky way?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: Yes, like you know it's not it's it's there's a
Speaker 1: lot of fat phobia in this episode. But I also
Speaker 1: think what they're trying to get at is fast food
Speaker 1: companies being the bad guys. And Lucius is like, it's
Speaker 1: not just about food. These kids could exercise, play sports.
Speaker 1: The Principal's like, where have you fucking been, dumb ass.
Speaker 1: We can't afford sports. They're lucky to have an orchestra
Speaker 1: at all. And so then Stabler has stepped away for
Speaker 1: another little call on his baby flip phone, and he's
Speaker 1: back and he's like, listen, Munch checked jessica cell records
Speaker 1: and a call was made one hour after the attack,
Speaker 1: and they have the phone number. So now the principal
Speaker 1: trots the two detectives into the orchestra practice and Lucius
Speaker 1: tells them we're looking for a witness to an assault,
Speaker 1: and Stabler dials up the phone number that Munch just
Speaker 1: gave him and bring bring No. One knows how to
Speaker 1: go on silent at orchestra practice. The phone starts ringing
Speaker 1: and it is a kid named Kenny. His teacher goes, Kenny,
Speaker 1: no phone's in practice, and he goes sorry, and then
Speaker 1: he still.
Speaker 3: Picks it up and goes hello, like, I love that.
Speaker 3: He's like, does it just turn it off?
Speaker 1: He fully answers it, and then Stabler goes hi, and
Speaker 1: the kid has busted.
Speaker 3: He's like, what's going on? They asked where were you
Speaker 3: two afternoons ago?
Speaker 1: And he says, I don't remember in really the most
Speaker 1: unconvincing way possible. And then a girl stands up and goes,
Speaker 1: leave my brother alone, and she's got a scratch on
Speaker 1: her face, which Lucius grossly like grabs her face and goes,
Speaker 1: what happened there? Like kid, and they just take both
Speaker 1: kids in for questioning. In interrogation, Kenny is sitting in
Speaker 1: cement Bar's room while Cragan and Elliott chat on the
Speaker 1: other side of the glass.
Speaker 3: This kid's name is Kenny Bixton.
Speaker 1: He's sixteen, and he's wearing Quattro jumps aka Nike airs
Speaker 1: as I called them before. That's consistent with the footprints
Speaker 1: that they found at the scene. And all he said
Speaker 1: to the cop so far is get me a soda.
Speaker 1: His sister, Mia is fourteen and their mom is on
Speaker 1: the way down. Craigan's like, let's get the forensics and
Speaker 1: the confession and wrap this shit up. So now, Lucius
Speaker 1: is talking to Mia and he's lying to her. He's
Speaker 1: saying the victim to wait this. This made my skin crawl.
Speaker 1: There is a certain amount of lying that they're allowed
Speaker 1: to do, and we've seen before. They definitely have said, oh,
Speaker 1: your brother's in the other room flipping on you, like
Speaker 1: the victim idd you and described you no.
Speaker 2: He's very specific lie yes, yes, detail, And she's like,
Speaker 2: I want to talk to my brother.
Speaker 1: They lie to her and they're like, oh, he's in
Speaker 1: the other room spilling honey, and Lucius tells her, listen,
Speaker 1: if you tell the truth right now, it's gonna count
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 3: And she's like, is my mom coming?
Speaker 1: And he like goes, sweetheart, and then he gives them
Speaker 1: the hole when your mom comes and the lawyers get here,
Speaker 1: we can't help you anymore, which we've seen before. But
Speaker 1: then he is fully lying to her and going saying,
Speaker 1: whatever you tell me now is shit that won't be
Speaker 1: on the record. That's what he says to her, which
Speaker 1: is a absolute lie. And even Stabler the opposite of
Speaker 1: the Miranda rights. Yes, even Stabler, king of slamming suspects
Speaker 1: against walls and crossing the line is like dude, and
Speaker 1: Lucius like waves him off and he's like, yeah, Stabler's
Speaker 1: gonna go call your mom and like basically tells him
Speaker 1: to get the fuck out of there. And he's being
Speaker 1: so shady and he goes, tell the truth. Now, it's
Speaker 1: your first defense. You'll get off and she goes really
Speaker 1: and he goes, you'll get immunity. Stabler is like, that's
Speaker 1: too much your fully bold faced lilye and you just said,
Speaker 1: like how you're so like self righteous. You treat victims
Speaker 1: like victims, and then what you treat suspects like they're
Speaker 1: completely guilty immediately, Like it was really hard to watch.
Speaker 1: And he's like, you're questioning a miner without a parent,
Speaker 1: and even if we get something from her, you know,
Speaker 1: we can't use it, and Lucius.
Speaker 3: Is like, yeah, but we can use it to break
Speaker 3: her brother.
Speaker 1: They did it, and Stabler goes when they find out
Speaker 1: how you got the confession and Luciu's like, you'll back
Speaker 1: me up. It'll be two detectives versus a kid, and
Speaker 1: Stabler's like, nah, dude, I am not doing that shit,
Speaker 1: and Lucia, I clearly hate you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like in what world would I back your play?
Speaker 1: Like I won't back you about who ate something out
Speaker 1: of the refrigerator at the precinct, like not happening. Lucius
Speaker 1: is like, don't give me you that holier than thou crap.
Speaker 1: I know how you work, and Stabler's like, you don't
Speaker 1: know me, bitch, and Lucius goes, no, wonder your partner
Speaker 1: dumped you?
Speaker 3: Oh shit, he goes.
Speaker 1: You screwed her, and now you're trying to screw me,
Speaker 1: and Stabler naturally punches this man right in his face,
Speaker 1: and the two of them start grappling like fresh on
Speaker 1: the wrestling team, like they're kind of just like holding
Speaker 1: each other's shirts and pressing against each other like there's
Speaker 1: not even any more punches really happening, And then Finn
Speaker 1: and Craigan other cops come in and break it up,
Speaker 1: and one cop goes, Elliet, come on, and.
Speaker 3: I hope that got him his sagcard. I really do.
Speaker 1: Craigan sends Lucius to his office and then tells everyone
Speaker 1: get back to work. Fund's over, and then Stabler in
Speaker 1: the office is like, you get rid of him or
Speaker 1: I quit, and Craigan says, change and get into my office.
Speaker 1: So now Stabler is in the locker room changing and
Speaker 1: we see somebody in soft focus right behind him, and
Speaker 1: who is it but Olivia Benson, looking gorgeous from the
Speaker 1: shoulders up. And they stay nice and tight on her
Speaker 1: to avoid any kind of baby bump, and she goes,
Speaker 1: I like that shirt. And it's like, aren't these locker
Speaker 1: rooms separated by gender? Do they just let the female
Speaker 1: and the milk cops just change in front of each other?
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that the NYPD would be that liberal,
Speaker 1: you know. But he's like, what are you doing here?
Speaker 1: And she says, I heard what happened between you and Blaine.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, the fight that happened ten minutes ago.
Speaker 1: Word travels fast, like did Fenn did? I was like,
Speaker 1: did Finn text you with like T nine on a
Speaker 1: flip phone to like let you know what's happening? Like?
Speaker 1: Is she in the same building in computer Crimes? I
Speaker 1: have a lot of questions how she out there so quick?
Speaker 2: Shining for her in this way that it makes it
Speaker 2: seem like she's not downstairs, but yes, exactly, And then
Speaker 2: he traumatic he walks over to her like really quickly
Speaker 2: and squinting, And these are the moments where I do
Speaker 2: know the show is fucking with us, because that seems
Speaker 2: exactly like a moment in any other show where he
Speaker 2: would run to her and like kiss her.
Speaker 1: Like I felt like it was almost like a kiss
Speaker 1: was gonna happen. And then he goes, why didn't you
Speaker 1: tell me? And Olivia's like, Elliet, we've been partners for
Speaker 1: seven years, longer than anybody else here.
Speaker 3: We needed to change. I'm sorry I should have talked
Speaker 3: to you.
Speaker 1: It's just too complicated, like and there's like sparks between them,
Speaker 1: you know, and he goes, thanks for dropping by, and
Speaker 1: he walks off, very mature, right, And Stabler is in
Speaker 1: Craigan's office now, and Craigan is like, I'm not letting
Speaker 1: you quit or Lucius quit, and Stabler's like, well then
Speaker 1: I'm out of here. And he goes, you know, you're
Speaker 1: just running away from yourself. And he goes, you know
Speaker 1: why I paired you with Lucius. Stabler goes because you
Speaker 1: started drinking again, just casually joking about his captain's addiction,
Speaker 1: and Craigan goes, so that you would know what you're
Speaker 1: like to work with. He goes, I don't lie to kids,
Speaker 1: and Craigan's like, bitch, you bend the rules all the time.
Speaker 1: Don't make me list every time you've crossed the line.
Speaker 1: You're a good cop, but god knows how Olivia put
Speaker 1: up with you for so long. And he goes, well,
Speaker 1: Olivia is a saint, and it seems very sarcastic, and
Speaker 1: Craigan says, get over to the Orchestra teen's house with
Speaker 1: a warrant, and Stabler tries to complain, and Craigan goes
Speaker 1: full angry dad and goes, you will work this case together, understood,
Speaker 1: And Stabler just walks off with his tail between his legs,
Speaker 1: and then outside he sees Lucius waiting for the els.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know that is angry Dad. You're going
Speaker 1: you're doing it, you know. So he Stabler sidles up
Speaker 1: next to Lucius up front outside the elevator, and after
Speaker 1: a couple of seconds of silence, Lucius goes sorry about
Speaker 1: your shirt, and then Stabler goes sorry about your face,
Speaker 1: and suddenly these two are just giggling all the way
Speaker 1: to elevator town. And Stabler's like, look, we've got no choice.
Speaker 1: Let's just work this case, all right, and Luci just
Speaker 1: goes fine with me. And it is funny because I
Speaker 1: do sometimes think that that is how men make up. Like,
Speaker 1: my husband was in a fight with a friend for
Speaker 1: a year. They just didn't speak and Jared was super
Speaker 1: mad about something and then they just ran into each
Speaker 1: other at a bar and started talking and he goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're fine now. I was like cool, Like no resolution,
Speaker 1: just like we moved on, you know. But now we're
Speaker 1: at the home of the Bixton teens, Mia and Kenny,
Speaker 1: and they're asking the mom like do you own a car?
Speaker 1: And she's like, we can't afford a car. And they're like,
Speaker 1: do you have access to a car. She's like, we
Speaker 1: live in New York City, why would we need a car?
Speaker 1: And she says, well, Kenny and Mia were at school
Speaker 1: two afternoons ago, and I don't know what time they
Speaker 1: get home because I work at the laundromat till eight.
Speaker 1: Rudy is their brother, So they start asking him and
Speaker 1: Rudy is in a wheelchair and his arm is in
Speaker 1: a sling and his face looks bruised, and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they came home after school that day and they asked
Speaker 1: what happened to him, and he claims he fell down
Speaker 1: some stairs and hurt his leg, broke a couple bones,
Speaker 1: and then O'Halloran calls them over and he finds this
Speaker 1: souvenir bat for the Bronx Gators and he's like that,
Speaker 1: I think this is the assault web been And then
Speaker 1: he does the old black light trick and blood and
Speaker 1: skin fragments glow. So they must have beaten her unconscious
Speaker 1: with this. But it's like a souvenir bat, like it's
Speaker 1: the size of a hot dog. Like I it just
Speaker 1: seems like a weird weapon. There's really but that's what
Speaker 1: you would put in a you know, two Saturday. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: for that. You know we've seen worse, but it's also horrible.
Speaker 1: But the souvenir bat as a murder weapon.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: They are coming up with new things all the time
Speaker 1: on the show and I applaud them. So now they've
Speaker 1: and it's a souvenir bat for the Bronxkaters.
Speaker 3: What's that is that? Like?
Speaker 1: A is that a real I gotta look that up.
Speaker 1: Hold on, Nope, not a real team. There's the Harlem
Speaker 1: Gaters was a professional minor league football team. But yes,
Speaker 1: there's no Bronxkaters anyway. They must be some Triple A
Speaker 1: baseball team out of the Bronx. So next they've got
Speaker 1: Mia back in the cement bars room with her lawyer
Speaker 1: now this time, thank god, so shady Lucius can't like
Speaker 1: screw her. And they throw the bat down in front
Speaker 1: of her and tell her that it's got Jessica's blood
Speaker 1: on it, and the lawyer is claiming they could have
Speaker 1: found that out in the street and taken it home.
Speaker 1: And then they show her shoe print and it's all
Speaker 1: adding up and soon we're gonna find the knife and
Speaker 1: the van and met your blood to the blood on
Speaker 1: her clothes.
Speaker 3: And the lawyer is.
Speaker 1: Like, say nothing, and Sabler's like, just tell us what
Speaker 1: Jessica did to you, And the lawyer shakes his head no,
Speaker 1: but Mia still talks. And Mia goes she stole Rudy's
Speaker 1: hat and she says, I saw Jessica wearing that hat,
Speaker 1: and I asked where she got it, and Jessica said
Speaker 1: she stole it from some fat slob who was stinking
Speaker 1: up a park bench. That's her quote that Jessica said
Speaker 1: she knew that she was one of the people who
Speaker 1: beat up her brother. So now we cut to Kenny,
Speaker 1: who's being interrogated as well.
Speaker 2: I mean, they should talk, said Dolores from Jersey about
Speaker 2: slab because she didn't like that being called a slab either.
Speaker 1: Oh, she did not like being called a slob, which
Speaker 1: I agree that it's it's honestly the wrong word.
Speaker 3: She should have just said bitch.
Speaker 1: But so then we cut to Kenny who's in his
Speaker 1: interrogation and he says they kicked Rudy so bad they
Speaker 1: put him in the hospital.
Speaker 3: It cost him his job.
Speaker 1: And he's like, damn right, it was time for payback
Speaker 1: and Stabler goes, so you grabbed her, beat her and
Speaker 1: cut her. He tells them Rudy's hand has gangreen under
Speaker 1: the bandages because of his diabetes. The doctor had to
Speaker 1: cut off three of his fingers. I wanted her to
Speaker 1: suffer like he did. And they're like, why did you
Speaker 1: sexually assault her? And he goes, she called my sister
Speaker 1: a pig and said pig should never be allowed to breed.
Speaker 3: So this girl's got a mouth on her. Now.
Speaker 1: Little baby Jessica is in the woodblind's room and she's like,
Speaker 1: I would never say that.
Speaker 3: I don't even wear baseball caps. I don't even know
Speaker 3: any of these Brixton kids. And they're like, well, they know.
Speaker 1: You, and Sabler says, and she's like, yeah, because they
Speaker 1: kidnap me, tortured me, and you're treating me like it's
Speaker 1: my fault. And then in walks mister Cindy Lauper aka
Speaker 1: David Thornton, who plays defense attorney Lionel Granger, and we
Speaker 1: know when he walks in there's money involved.
Speaker 3: He's only working for the richie riches.
Speaker 1: And he ends the interview, of course, but they're like,
Speaker 1: we're questioning her about an assault, and Granger is like, oh,
Speaker 1: is there a police report for this assault?
Speaker 3: Is there an er report about this assault? It didn't happen.
Speaker 1: Why don't you do your jobs and go charge the
Speaker 1: little sorry, large bastards who ruin this girl's life.
Speaker 3: So yeah, like disgusting.
Speaker 1: Attorneys are making fat jokes and it's not cool, but
Speaker 1: I think they're trying to paint a picture here about
Speaker 1: how people are flippant about this kind of thing.
Speaker 3: And the next scene, you.
Speaker 1: Know, because you said that that was hot dog size,
Speaker 1: Now I do want a hot dog.
Speaker 3: I know you want an all beef dog.
Speaker 2: I know I'm sensitive to suggestion.
Speaker 1: Well I didn't eat anything. Well, I also got this
Speaker 1: macha cake. I gotta stop thinking outside the box. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't want these things.
Speaker 3: You have a couple of safe foods. That's what the
Speaker 3: Arphin girl has told me. Safe. How is the arfin
Speaker 3: rosy uh saga going?
Speaker 1: Yesterday she tried a carrot that had been seasoned in
Speaker 1: my dinner, and we didn't tell her it was a carrot.
Speaker 3: She just wanted to bite.
Speaker 1: She goes, oh, it's good, and I was like, you
Speaker 1: just ate a carrot, bitch, Like she would die if
Speaker 1: I told her she ate a carrot. So and now
Speaker 1: I'm like, maybe, like soon we're just going to start
Speaker 1: making blue aprons and just being like, this is dinner,
Speaker 1: eat it like and if she doesn't, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know, well, obviously we'll luc have to offer safe
Speaker 1: foods at the same time.
Speaker 3: That's part of it.
Speaker 1: So Oscar eats everything off my fucking plate like he's
Speaker 1: he's adventurous. But in the next scene, Novak is there
Speaker 1: and she's like, dude, he's right, I've got nothing on
Speaker 1: the Rudy assault, and I've got everything on Jessica's assault.
Speaker 3: To put those kids on trial. She's like, Rudy's a
Speaker 3: grown man. He didn't report his assault.
Speaker 1: Even if he did, it's not an SVU case, and
Speaker 1: Craigan says, type up your d D fives and move on.
Speaker 1: So the next scene, Lucius is bringing in some paperwork
Speaker 1: to Craigan on Jessica and is like, okay, what's my
Speaker 1: next assignment? And Craigan gets a call. They turn on
Speaker 1: the TV and Assemblyman Molina is there talking to New
Speaker 1: York One while a protest is going down about how
Speaker 1: NYPD finds the attacker of the white girl but not
Speaker 1: the person of color who nearly gets beaten to death.
Speaker 1: So Craigan is like, all right, I'm right on top
Speaker 1: of that. Rose hangs up the phone and there's some
Speaker 1: kind of suit at one PP was on the phone,
Speaker 1: and obviously they're back on this case because it's political,
Speaker 1: and never mind, Rudy is an SVW case now, So cut.
Speaker 3: To the protest.
Speaker 1: Molina's talking to a crowd outside the Bixton's building and
Speaker 1: taunting Stabler, and Luciah says they arrive. So to Lucius,
Speaker 1: he's like, congrats on investigating a three week old crime,
Speaker 1: and he goes, we investigate crimes that are reported to us,
Speaker 1: and then Stabler's like, what's your two connection, and he's like,
Speaker 1: we grew up on the same block. So Lucius knows
Speaker 1: the us I'm woyman. So now Rudy is telling them
Speaker 1: his story. He's like, I was on my way home
Speaker 1: from work. I stopped for a minute. I felt I
Speaker 1: must have fallen asleep on the bench. Next thing I know,
Speaker 1: two people are beating me up, calling me fat scum,
Speaker 1: saying get your fat ass out of this park. And
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I would recognize them again. I was
Speaker 1: protecting my head. I couldn't see through the blood. And
Speaker 1: he heard one say get a picture. He saw a
Speaker 1: flash and then they left, and he said, and they
Speaker 1: took my cap to and they're like, why didn't you report?
Speaker 1: And he's like, you don't understand, and Lucius says, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. Why would you let like Lucius is being
Speaker 1: a dick to this kid who's a fucking victim. Lucius goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't understand. Why would you let your little siblings
Speaker 1: fight your fight? Why are they in jail but the
Speaker 1: people who attack you are free? He goes, because I
Speaker 1: got so damn fat I let children beat me. So
Speaker 1: he was obviously have a lot of shame surrounding his
Speaker 1: attack and that's why he didn't report.
Speaker 3: So there is no name they know as SVU detectives.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, exactly, there's we got nothing on Rudy's assault,
Speaker 1: Like there's no security cam footage, there's no forensics. Maybe
Speaker 1: the picture is on Jessica's phone. So then Finn walks
Speaker 1: in to say if it was, it's not there anymore
Speaker 1: because Mia checked the phone and said it wasn't there.
Speaker 1: And now the phone is at the bottom of the
Speaker 1: East River because that's where Mia and her brother threw
Speaker 1: it after they checked for the picture. The phone record
Speaker 1: show that Jessica made a lot of calls before and
Speaker 1: after the attack on Rudy. One was to Tommy the
Speaker 1: weirdo from the hospital, and the other one is to
Speaker 1: an Internet sign on page and maybe she was emailing
Speaker 1: something like a photo. Computer Crimes is already on it.
Speaker 1: Uh oh, do you smell what I smell? Another Benson
Speaker 1: cameo at Computer Crimes. This guy's like, oh yeah, our
Speaker 1: newest recruits. Sweet talked to Warren out of a judge
Speaker 1: and you know that's fucking Benson. And there she is
Speaker 1: hiding that bump behind a huge two thousands computer monitor,
Speaker 1: and there she's like, yep, we got our ISP, which
Speaker 1: took them straight to some website that's password only, Like
Speaker 1: these are for websites that we usually only see with
Speaker 1: jihattists or like with child sex abuse images. And the
Speaker 1: site is called scratch your Itch dot Net, which, if
Speaker 1: you've seen our live show.
Speaker 3: One of a favorite of karas I would say it is.
Speaker 1: But I didn't know what it was, like I think
Speaker 1: I forgot. I thought scratcherr itch dot net was like
Speaker 1: a fucking hookup site, scratch your itch, like just go
Speaker 1: get a quick, get a quick piece of ass, and
Speaker 1: then move on. Like I thought it was one of
Speaker 1: those anonymous quickie type websites, because if you've seen our
Speaker 1: live show, we do do a compilation of all of
Speaker 1: svu's best websites, and so I thought this was a
Speaker 1: site for fucking but no, it's a group of people
Speaker 1: to post about other groups of people that they hate.
Speaker 3: And I was like, I didn't realize that.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll take it out of the slideshow if we
Speaker 1: ever do it again. But Anthony Anderson says like eight
Speaker 1: slurs in a row, and Olivia says that like slurs
Speaker 1: for gay people, black people, overweight people, you know, like everything,
Speaker 1: and Olivia says, overweight people are a special favorite on
Speaker 1: this site.
Speaker 3: There's even threads about how to get.
Speaker 1: Rid of them, and in the thread there's a post
Speaker 1: about here's another way to get rid of them, and
Speaker 1: it shows them attacking Rudy and he's getting beat up
Speaker 1: by Tommy Strahan and the video was taken with Jessica's
Speaker 1: cell phone. So they go to the high school. They
Speaker 1: arrest Tommy and he's like at first, like he's so
Speaker 1: hold in march. He goes, how can I help you detectives,
Speaker 1: and then they arrest him, and Jessica's there too, and
Speaker 1: they arrest her and he tells his friend Luke, call
Speaker 1: my dad, I need a lawyer, and Luke is like
Speaker 1: world star and just films the whole thing on a
Speaker 1: fucking Pom Pilot or some.
Speaker 3: Really old phone.
Speaker 1: But that is they do linger on it for a
Speaker 1: really long time and it is important later. So now
Speaker 1: we're at the precinct and there's a lineup of white
Speaker 1: teen girls.
Speaker 3: Which we don't get often.
Speaker 1: We really don't get a lot of like young white
Speaker 1: ladies being lined up to get picked out, and Rudy
Speaker 1: cannot pick her out of the lineup, but then he
Speaker 1: immediately I can barely pick her out as Ruoney Mara.
Speaker 1: I don't think she looks like herself, but anyway, he
Speaker 1: immediately picks Tommy out of the lineup of white teen boys,
Speaker 1: and Tommy says, I don't even know who that person is,
Speaker 1: and in walks Granger again, and he's like, you've gotten
Speaker 1: he ideed my client because it was on the news.
Speaker 1: We cut the footage from New York One, which is
Speaker 1: like New York's local station of Tommy's arrest being taken
Speaker 1: on his friend's palm pilot. That item was broadcast thirty
Speaker 1: minutes before the ID, so you have no proof that
Speaker 1: he saw it, but you have no proof.
Speaker 3: That he didn't.
Speaker 1: The idea will be tainted and a judge won't allow it,
Speaker 1: which is really wild that that high school kid got
Speaker 1: that footage to New York won that quickly. What about
Speaker 1: the picture from the website? They're like, well, you can't
Speaker 1: really tell who he is, and like, my client was
Speaker 1: playing poker at a friend's house that night. You guys
Speaker 1: have nothing like basically saying, obviously, this rich kid's going
Speaker 1: to have friends back him up and say he has
Speaker 1: an alibi for the time of the attack. So now
Speaker 1: Lucius and Stabler are like brainstorming. They're like, maybe we
Speaker 1: can get the eightya to use the photo to get
Speaker 1: a warrant for Tommy's house. But then they stop talking
Speaker 1: when Rudy comes up. They see him and they're like, yes, sorry,
Speaker 1: we had to let both of them go, like you
Speaker 1: did an idea the girl and then there wasn't enough
Speaker 1: evidence to hold Tommy. And Rudy's like, oh, he must
Speaker 1: have had a good lawyer, and they say, sorry, we
Speaker 1: wish you'd forward in the first place, like still kind
Speaker 1: of victim blaming. And then Rudy says, yeah, me too,
Speaker 1: and wheels away. But we've just seen him clock Tommy
Speaker 1: leaving with his lawyers, so obviously something bad is about
Speaker 1: to happen. So Stabler and Lucius are chatting when we
Speaker 1: hear hey, hey, I'm talking to you, and it's Rudy
Speaker 1: calling to Tommy, and then he pulls out a gun
Speaker 1: and says remember me, and he shoots Tommy right in
Speaker 1: the chest and blood splatters all over Granger, and I
Speaker 1: will say, it's kind of satisfying for like a millisecond
Speaker 1: to see Granger like off his guard, like he because
Speaker 1: he's so confident and smarmy all the time, and now
Speaker 1: he's covered in his client's blood and.
Speaker 3: He's like, fuck and I do like that. He's gonna
Speaker 3: have to like book a therapy appointment for that. So
Speaker 3: they I don't think.
Speaker 1: He's probably like, oh this, I just got this suit,
Speaker 1: you know. So they tell him to drop it. They
Speaker 1: scream call a bus, and then you know, we got
Speaker 1: we got fade to black. And now Novak at the
Speaker 1: top of AAC four is like, how the hell did
Speaker 1: this kid get a gun into a police building with
Speaker 1: the security And they're like, nobody ought to search a
Speaker 1: guy in a wheelchair, and so they're like, well, what
Speaker 1: do we do now, Craigan says, keep digging.
Speaker 3: Lucius is like, these two psycles are the ones who.
Speaker 1: Started this whole thing talking about Tommy and Jessica. Novak
Speaker 1: is like, okay, but they've been punished, like she was
Speaker 1: raped and mutilated and Tommy is dead. So that's how
Speaker 1: we find out that Tommy is actually he's fully dead.
Speaker 1: There was no point really in calling the bus. They
Speaker 1: took the law into their own hands though, these kids
Speaker 1: and now in walks Assemblyman Molina and he's like, you're
Speaker 1: gonna plead Rudy out right, and Novak is like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm going to try him for murder. And Molina's like, well,
Speaker 1: he saw the man who brutalized him walk free. He
Speaker 1: acted out of rage and despair. Novak's like, well, the
Speaker 1: defense will definitely try that, but you're not going to
Speaker 1: bully me into a deal. And Molina's like, no, he's
Speaker 1: just one victim in an epidemic. And he starts talking
Speaker 1: about obesity and type two diabetes, race class and geography.
Speaker 1: He says, all guaranteed that Rudy would be obese and
Speaker 1: would be put on that park bench to get attacked.
Speaker 1: And Novak's like, a judge's not going to let you
Speaker 1: use a health issue as a smokescreen. And then Molina
Speaker 1: comes in with the stats. He's like, forty one hundred
Speaker 1: people are diagnosed with diabetes every day, every day, fifty
Speaker 1: five go blind, one hundred and twenty and get kidney failure,
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty have a limp amputated. And that's
Speaker 1: every day. And this was in two thousand and six.
Speaker 1: I don't know if things have improved or not. Novak says,
Speaker 1: it's got nothing to do with the case. But Molina
Speaker 1: says he's the case and by the time he's told
Speaker 1: his story, no jury will convict him. Now we're at trial,
Speaker 1: Rudy is on the sambying, questioned by his defense attorney
Speaker 1: Serena Waldron. Who is none other than Natalie Cole, a
Speaker 1: fucking legend of music?
Speaker 3: The daughter that's a double take, I got, No, that's
Speaker 3: not that's camp.
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know that is her, though I know
Speaker 1: it's her, So what is yeah, rest in peace, unforgettable,
Speaker 1: the daughter of Matt King Cole, Like, I mean, a
Speaker 1: musical legend and she's only in one SVU and this
Speaker 1: is it? And she asks him how much does he weigh?
Speaker 1: He says three twenty. He says he's always been heavy.
Speaker 1: Most of his family is big, and that his favorite
Speaker 1: food as a kid was Snippy snowflakes and he loves
Speaker 1: Snippy because it was his favorite cartoon character. And the
Speaker 1: toys were in the cereal box and he's like, my
Speaker 1: mom had to work, so TV was our babysitter. Casey
Speaker 1: objects like, are we getting a rundown of every meal?
Speaker 1: This dude's ever eaten? And Natalie Cole is like, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to illustrate how hard it is to teach a
Speaker 1: kid to eat responsibly, especially when the teacher is the
Speaker 1: TV that is purposely selling these kids garbage. And Casey says,
Speaker 1: your honor, she is testifying, which we've heard before, and
Speaker 1: the judge orders the jury you have to ignore those statements.
Speaker 1: I don't know how they could forget it. But he says,
Speaker 1: my mom didn't cook. She was too tired for working
Speaker 1: two jobs. So we would go out for burgers, get
Speaker 1: fried chicken, order pizza, and eat in front of the TV.
Speaker 1: Rudy can also like the actor's doing a really good job,
Speaker 1: like he can barely breathe as he's testifying, like he's
Speaker 1: taking deep breasts and like, you know, it's labored breathing.
Speaker 1: And he says, after he was diagnosed with diabetes, he
Speaker 1: went to a clinic and he was doing great. He
Speaker 1: lost fifty pounds, he got his blood sugar regulated. But
Speaker 1: then the clinic closed because they were sending too much
Speaker 1: money to cigarette sting operations. The hospital couldn't afford it.
Speaker 1: Insurance company said it was too much money. He doesn't
Speaker 1: have health insurance at the moment, so it's like he
Speaker 1: is a good example of how really our healthcare system
Speaker 1: is failing him as well. And she asks him why
Speaker 1: did you shoot Tommy? And he goes, I was so mad.
Speaker 1: I was blind with rage because of what he did
Speaker 1: to me and my family, and he was gonna walk away.
Speaker 1: She's like, are you sorry, and he goes, yes, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry for what I did. Now it's Casey's turn. She
Speaker 1: starts out soft, like, whoa, that's a really sad story,
Speaker 1: and then she morphs into full pit bull mode.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: She goes through the events. She's like, this is what happened,
Speaker 3: and then this, and then this.
Speaker 1: And he must you must have known the kid was
Speaker 1: gonna walk, and that's why you brought a gun because
Speaker 1: you can't really like he went in for a lineup.
Speaker 1: He brought the gun no matter what. Casey was smart
Speaker 1: to catch that, and he says that's right. She's like,
Speaker 1: how did you know he was gonna walk? And she's
Speaker 1: and she goes, you didn't know you were gonna shoot
Speaker 1: him no matter what. Right, So she goes, you weren't
Speaker 1: blind with rage, you planned it. You aren't sorry, are you?
Speaker 3: Are you?
Speaker 1: And he goes, no, I'm glad he's dead, and I
Speaker 1: do it again. Novax right, so he gets to say
Speaker 1: his piece, but Novak's gonna win this case. At this moment,
Speaker 1: Casey walks into the precinct deflated. She's like, I'm not
Speaker 1: proud of what I had to do. She's like, I
Speaker 1: go to the gentle giant until he snaps, and then
Speaker 1: Lucius says, Finn found the Bronx Gators baseball cap. Jessica
Speaker 1: is wearing it in a photo taken from the security
Speaker 1: cameras at Coreta Scott king Hi the day that she
Speaker 1: showed up for that concert practice. And then suddenly Benson's
Speaker 1: there and is like, uh, I've got some more dirt
Speaker 1: on Jessica. I've been following her online. She's obsessed with
Speaker 1: wait and she hasn't been at that fancy high school
Speaker 1: for long. She's been in some very interesting places, which
Speaker 1: is what Benson says, why cause it's just some weird
Speaker 1: way to say. It's a funny way to say it
Speaker 1: to me and what they're getting to. So cut to
Speaker 1: Lucius bringing Missus Joaquin Phoenix into interrogation where Stabler is waiting,
Speaker 1: and she says, shouldn't I have my lawyer?
Speaker 3: Here and they're like, no, girl, it's chill. We just
Speaker 3: have some questions.
Speaker 1: And it's like, Sabler, you're now doing just what Lucius
Speaker 1: was doing. Her saying should I have my lawyer here?
Speaker 1: Is like the same thing as like can I have
Speaker 1: my lawyer here? And like they're basically like, no, girl,
Speaker 1: you're good anyway. They're like, you said you never wore
Speaker 1: that hat, but here it is, and they slap down
Speaker 1: a picture of her, clear as day. Coreta Scott King
Speaker 1: Hi has got the high def security camera's baby. She
Speaker 1: is picture perfect wearing it. It is her, it is
Speaker 1: her face. She claims, oh I found that hat. It's like,
Speaker 1: but bitch, you told us you didn't wear you didn't
Speaker 1: wear baseball caps, so what's up? She says, you can't
Speaker 1: keep me here, and she gets up to leave. And
Speaker 1: I'm just noticing that Lucius is sitting right behind her
Speaker 1: dangerous mind style, So that is very funny to me.
Speaker 2: And do people sit dangerous mind style anymore?
Speaker 1: I don't see it. I don't think I see that
Speaker 1: out in the wild very much. But maybe, but I
Speaker 1: don't know. It feels like now everywhere you a place
Speaker 1: where you would sit dangerous mind style, like a burger
Speaker 1: joint or something. I feel like all the chairs are
Speaker 1: bolted down now you like can't turn them around.
Speaker 3: But anyway, what he used to do at burger spots, well.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's always like a diner, Like it's
Speaker 1: always like the max On saved by the bell, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: it always takes it.
Speaker 3: And turns it around. But I feel like now everything's
Speaker 3: kind of I.
Speaker 1: Don't Michelle, I forf yes, absolutely, that's where of course
Speaker 1: dangerous minds.
Speaker 3: But if I'm.
Speaker 1: If I looking in the hall of dangerous minds, poses
Speaker 1: Sabler goes, you hate fat people, don't you, And she goes, no,
Speaker 1: I don't mind them. It's a really weird way to
Speaker 1: answer it. And Lucius is like, what about me, I'm
Speaker 1: kind of heavy? Do I disgust you? And then they
Speaker 1: try to bait her, and Stabler's like, people can't help
Speaker 1: being black or gay, but fat, that's their fault, right,
Speaker 1: And then Lucius is like, yeah, they have no pride,
Speaker 1: no self control, and Lucia says, check this one out,
Speaker 1: and he goes, check out this heifer, and he slaps
Speaker 1: down a picture of Jessica age fourteen, that is Rouney
Speaker 1: Mara photoshop to be much larger, and then another one
Speaker 1: of her at fifteen and they're like two hundred thirty pounds.
Speaker 1: It's like insane the way that this episode is going,
Speaker 1: Like she's.
Speaker 3: A formerly overweight.
Speaker 1: Person who is now self hating and hates people that
Speaker 1: are overweight, Like, I don't know, Like, but.
Speaker 3: It's so is a bad person.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so they confront her, but also she deserves
Speaker 2: of her finger and not be sodomized.
Speaker 3: This is very a twisted take sure.
Speaker 1: It's a twist, yes, for sure, for sure, Like and
Speaker 1: they're like, this is from your yearbook at Hidden Glades
Speaker 1: Ranch in California, a very exclusive school for very heavy teens.
Speaker 1: Like I just think it's so wild the way they're
Speaker 1: like gotchaying this girl who like are like, you used
Speaker 1: to be heavy, And then they're like that place gave
Speaker 1: you lots of good diet, lots of exercise, trict supervision.
Speaker 3: And she's like, why are you doing this?
Speaker 1: And Luci's just like and here's the final result, a
Speaker 1: beautiful young girl who hates fat people, but got shea
Speaker 1: used to be on her style and then she breaks
Speaker 1: down and screams, you don't know what it's like people
Speaker 1: staring at you. Everybody you eat the jokes you're a leper.
Speaker 1: And they're like, is that how you saw Rudy? Is
Speaker 1: that why you attacked him? And she said Tommy started it,
Speaker 1: but yes, I couldn't stand the sight of him. She admits, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm really sorry. But it's like you're not sorry, bitch,
Speaker 1: like you have these feelings. And Olivia is looking through
Speaker 1: the glass with Casey, who says I'll take Like Who's like,
Speaker 1: you're gonna take this to the defense, right, and Casey's like, yes,
Speaker 1: but it won't help Rudy much, Casey says, but Benson says, well,
Speaker 1: some of Jessica's money might have helped him, and Casey says, like,
Speaker 1: they say you can never be too rich or tooth thin.
Speaker 3: I don't know why she says that.
Speaker 1: Quote, because you can definitely be too thin, right, you
Speaker 1: can die from being too thin.
Speaker 2: But anyway, Yeah, there's a whole movie called Thinner, and
Speaker 2: we interviewed the actor from ITTT Thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, Robert John Burke. If you're wondering that's true, Ducker,
Speaker 3: he was embarrassed when I brought it up.
Speaker 2: I remember being like I loved the thicker a thinner
Speaker 2: and I scared the shit out of me. Even the
Speaker 2: commercial terrified me as a child. And he was like,
Speaker 2: can we please not talk like he was like, God,
Speaker 2: not thinner.
Speaker 3: Who knows if that even made the interview. He goes,
Speaker 3: I was really excited, but geez, I don't know. It's
Speaker 3: like it is a cool Stephen King movie. But we
Speaker 3: cut the court and the jury is there and they're
Speaker 3: ready to They're like, sorry to interrupt, jog it.
Speaker 2: And remember Jonathan Silverman when I was like, how is
Speaker 2: it to do Beethoven three?
Speaker 3: I love it at them holes and he was like,
Speaker 3: oh Jesus, you know we.
Speaker 2: Weren't working talking about yeah, we needed a pay for stuff.
Speaker 3: Like He's like, I got a mortgage. But god, it's
Speaker 3: so funny.
Speaker 1: But I think it's it's like people are gonna like
Speaker 1: some of the bad stuff you make. You should just
Speaker 1: embrace all of it, you know. But in court, the
Speaker 1: foreman comes out. Unfortunately they find Rudy guilty. But when
Speaker 1: they pan over to him, he is not at the
Speaker 1: defense table. No one knows where he is. At the precinct,
Speaker 1: Lucius is packing up his desk because you know, he's
Speaker 1: been at SVU for five minutes and he's got a
Speaker 1: lot of knick knacks he's got to take home in
Speaker 1: his little paper box. And he tells it's like, but also,
Speaker 1: how does it feel to be used as a punishment
Speaker 1: for others? Like, you know, like they're like, listen, you're
Speaker 1: gonna go to the Manhattansview because there's a guy who's
Speaker 1: being a bad boy. So we're gonna show him what
Speaker 1: it's really Yeah, we got a hot head. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: need you to teach him at and it's gonna only
Speaker 1: just be a couple of weeks. Don't get too comfortable.
Speaker 1: But he was there going what's my next assignment? But
Speaker 1: I don't think he knew it was coming, but you know,
Speaker 1: he tells Sabler, Yeah, Rudy was rushed to the hospital.
Speaker 1: He had kidney failure and his left foot was amputated.
Speaker 1: So the guilty verdict is kind of irrelevant when he
Speaker 1: has a death sentence anyway, Lucia says, and then he's like, uh.
Speaker 3: Sabler goes, oh, are you leaving? And Lucius goes, yep.
Speaker 1: Captain says to close the case and move on, and
Speaker 1: he goes to shake Sabler's hand and goes, well, I
Speaker 1: won't say it was a pleasure, and Sablor goes take care.
Speaker 1: And then Stabler gazes at the empty desk that Olivia
Speaker 1: usually sits in, which is empty once again. Because the
Speaker 1: episode starts out, I feel like I keep losing people.
Speaker 1: And even though he hated this guy Lucius, he's out
Speaker 1: of his life now too.
Speaker 3: And that's dick wolf baby. Yeah, so funny.
Speaker 1: Sorry, this episode is so fucking crazy and wild and
Speaker 1: I but let's we have some controversy about this episode
Speaker 1: to tell you as well. Oh yeah, obviously he did
Speaker 1: not get Runey to be a guest on the podcast Today.
Speaker 3: But she has spoken.
Speaker 2: About this, okay, so Rooney Mara. She was quoted in
Speaker 2: Allure magazine interview talking shit about this episode and she
Speaker 2: called it. In quote she said, it's so awful, so stupid.
Speaker 2: She complained to the magazine. And this is reported on
Speaker 2: from the Today Show. People are obsessed with that show.
Speaker 2: I don't get it. In the episode, me and my boyfriend,
Speaker 2: although I don't look old enough to have a boyfriend,
Speaker 2: went and beat up these fat people. And at the
Speaker 2: end of the show you find out that I used
Speaker 2: to be obese, and I hate fat people. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Who would ever do that? Who would beat someone up
Speaker 2: because they're fat? And as retribution they sodomized her. I mean,
Speaker 2: I've been sodomized since the beginning of my career. I
Speaker 2: should have known then it would have come full circle.
Speaker 2: And that's obviously about you know, girl on the train.
Speaker 2: What is it with the tattoos?
Speaker 3: Girl with a dragon tattoo?
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Sorry to have combined it with the train,
Speaker 2: but there's a girl on the train.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 3: The Girl on the Train is an Emily Blunt movie.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh okay, it's same genre, dark dark, distressed a mission, Yes, okay.
Speaker 2: So she said that, which but then on Perez Hilton
Speaker 2: she's quoted.
Speaker 1: Well, the New York Post picked it up, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously splashed it around, and then she was getting some
Speaker 1: shit for like why are you talking shit about a
Speaker 1: show that gave you a job or whatever, And so
Speaker 1: she responded, she.
Speaker 2: Said, first of all, the SVU think that's just not true,
Speaker 2: but you said it. I mean, it is a quote,
Speaker 2: like I don't I don't know how a lure could
Speaker 2: have like twist misses strewed. Yeah, so but I don't
Speaker 2: know how she's denying it, but she does. She has
Speaker 2: quoted in this Paris Hilton post from like twenty eleven,
Speaker 2: that was my first job. It couldn't have been more
Speaker 2: exciting for me. It's an experience I hold very dear
Speaker 2: to my heart. People take things out of context, and
Speaker 2: that's just not the case. I was more nervous doing
Speaker 2: that job than I was doing this job. It's really
Speaker 2: silly people, especially with young girls, they feel they need
Speaker 2: to make them out to be a certain way. And
Speaker 2: I feel so grateful for any job I've ever gotten.
Speaker 2: I feel grateful. Yeah, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3: Really don't want to keep doing that.
Speaker 2: But she said every single job has shaped who she
Speaker 2: is and led me to where I am now. It's
Speaker 2: hard to have to talk about yourself all the time
Speaker 2: and things are out of context. And whatever that quote was,
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it's certainly not what I meant.
Speaker 2: If anything, I didn't mean that the I didn't mean
Speaker 2: that the storyline was ridiculous. I meant that humanity is ridiculous. Okay,
Speaker 2: I mean that's an f l P.
Speaker 1: Hating people that are larger is stupid, is what she
Speaker 1: I guess is like, how she's spinning it, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I want I think it also sounds like she doesn't
Speaker 1: get us view and is like, I mean, who would
Speaker 1: do that? It's like, I don't have you seen somebody else?
Speaker 3: There's more wait, hold.
Speaker 2: On, Okay, So she goes, I meant that humanity is ridiculous,
Speaker 2: and then she goes, I know that Law and Order
Speaker 2: makes their episodes out of real things that are happening
Speaker 2: in the city. So to me, by ridiculous, I meant
Speaker 2: that humanity is ridiculous. People are awful to one anout
Speaker 2: of there, and to me, I find it ridiculous.
Speaker 1: All right, Rooney Mara, everybody, she has spoken and she
Speaker 1: enjoyed her time.
Speaker 3: So there there you go. You buy an interviewer. We
Speaker 3: got it out of a lure?
Speaker 1: Or is this billionaire pr I mean? Or did she
Speaker 1: really mean that? Who fucking knows?
Speaker 3: Because that's good. That's fucking good.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna move on, obviously, And it's a great
Speaker 2: day here in the SVU studios.
Speaker 3: Ak, that's messed up studios.
Speaker 1: Not a murderer or a rape, not a not a
Speaker 1: violent crime in sight. So that's like pretty incredible, and
Speaker 1: it's kind of like what Rooney Marras said, they're using
Speaker 1: things from around the city, and this did happen in
Speaker 1: New York City and you know a lot of Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: just to clarify, I'm sure that people absolutely have been
Speaker 1: attacked for being heavy and that people have done that.
Speaker 1: There just isn't like a clear case that we could
Speaker 1: find that this was based on.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm sure lots of crimes happen, but this
Speaker 2: just happens to be like around the you know, this
Speaker 2: is it's like a big thing in the city, and
Speaker 2: then it got national attention because it is silly. And
Speaker 2: then obviously the New York Posts had like a rude headline.
Speaker 2: You know, they came through how they should. So this
Speaker 2: is story basically about two teens versus McDonald's, which famously
Speaker 2: I do love McDonald's. Your husband once said that's his
Speaker 2: favorite thing about me is that I love McDonald's. But
Speaker 2: you lived so close to one too, so that's like
Speaker 2: pretty lovely. But yeah, I love it. And they have
Speaker 2: inside out too toys right now, just so you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm dying for McDonald's to get the mcplant going
Speaker 1: at all their places.
Speaker 2: I think that they're not going to wait, did I
Speaker 2: talk about this? If I have, you can stop me.
Speaker 2: I went through the McDonald's drive through just for a
Speaker 2: diet coke and an inside out toy.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's what I wanted, so yeah.
Speaker 2: And then I pull up to the window and she
Speaker 2: hands the drink and I'm looking at it weird. I
Speaker 2: don't get I don't know what's weird, but something is weird.
Speaker 2: And she goes, oh, sorry, we're out of ice. I go,
Speaker 2: you're out of ice. It's the two ingredients I need
Speaker 2: in this concoc Like. I like the shake, Like that's
Speaker 2: what I'm here for.
Speaker 3: Like what?
Speaker 2: And I go, I get if I got other food,
Speaker 2: but I only came.
Speaker 3: To get this. It seems wild not to tell me.
Speaker 3: So she gave me two toys, but that is well.
Speaker 3: I do that all the time.
Speaker 1: If I'm hungover, I go through McDonald's drive through for
Speaker 1: a fry and a big ass fountain coke.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 2: This is like full deja vous, where we've had this
Speaker 2: conversation eighteen hundred times, like I don't know, like that way,
Speaker 2: I feel like I've been here. I've been sitting here,
Speaker 2: which means we didn't even have it that long. Ago
Speaker 2: because it all seems familiar to me. But yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: a big McDonald's fan. I don't know what to say,
Speaker 2: but I know the harms associated with eating it, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like, I don't think it's healthy.
Speaker 2: And that's kind of how we you know, why this
Speaker 2: we stumble onto this? So two teens? Did I already
Speaker 2: say their names? No, Yaslin brad not even one back.
Speaker 2: Get I just went on a monologue how I love
Speaker 2: McDonald this giant corporation. Okay, Jaslin Bradley and Ashley Pellman
Speaker 2: contended that they became obese while frequenting to McDonald's.
Speaker 3: In the Bronx.
Speaker 2: They basically claimed that McDonald's did not provide sufficient information
Speaker 2: about the health risk linked to its meals. Jaslin loved
Speaker 2: to supersize her meals, and she did a m This
Speaker 2: was before supersize me because then there was no more
Speaker 2: of that. They really shut that down, But I wonder
Speaker 2: if they just made everything bigger.
Speaker 3: Anyways.
Speaker 1: Anyways, Okay, and he just passed away recently? Oh really,
Speaker 1: Morgan Spring Yeah, like like two weeks ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean McDonald's is that movie was huge? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Why you didn't see it?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: That's so wild, and as a vegetarian, I find that
Speaker 3: strange to you. I feel like I would have. I
Speaker 3: just never got a chance.
Speaker 2: It seemed like, well I was also really young, so
Speaker 2: maybe things did exist like I but when I saw it,
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, first of its kind. This doc
Speaker 2: just like blew the lid. He put his body through
Speaker 2: this thing. I don't know, it seemed like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, for sure, I would say bockative at the time.
Speaker 1: If you think about like a documentarian that people know
Speaker 1: who that is, it's like Michael Moore and Morgan's Burtlock
Speaker 1: like name brand, you know, like he name brand.
Speaker 3: You know. It was huge. It was a huge doc.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't believe you didn't. But I guess maybe
Speaker 2: you're ready not really associated with MCDI yeah, yeah, But
Speaker 2: I wonder what the hold up is for the plants,
Speaker 2: like what.
Speaker 1: Because they released it in LA at a couple of places,
Speaker 1: but they were like in Long Beach.
Speaker 3: They were so far away, and I was like, what's
Speaker 3: going on? But I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe the impossibles like not even making Burger King money.
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you, I go to Burger King Moore
Speaker 1: because I can get impossible burgers.
Speaker 3: There, even though I like the fries better at McDonald's. Oh,
Speaker 3: but it is exclusive. Yeah.
Speaker 5: The mic plant was discontinued in twenty twenty two, so
Speaker 5: I don't think there's.
Speaker 3: Going to be They're not even doing it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they were doing some try, but I I think
Speaker 5: it's happening at all.
Speaker 2: It's weird because they probably can't use impossible maybe beyond's
Speaker 2: not good or like they can't make, but food scientists
Speaker 2: can do anything like I don't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's confusing for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you remember they had those salads in a shaker
Speaker 2: cup with like the dome lid. Yes, I miss I
Speaker 2: was too young to'll be like, oh I want that,
Speaker 2: but right now, like I would love a shaker salad,
Speaker 2: are you out? Like I can't even imagine. I'd be
Speaker 2: so happy. Yeah, yeah, a little salad on the go
Speaker 2: in a content like I would love to shake that
Speaker 2: cup of salad.
Speaker 3: All right, tell me about these girls.
Speaker 2: So Jaslyne she did a McMuffin in the morning and
Speaker 2: then a big macmeal with an apple pie in the evening,
Speaker 2: which the New York Times called the standard operating procedure.
Speaker 2: And then Ashley Pellman was more of a happy meal
Speaker 2: girl because she really liked the prizes, and they were
Speaker 2: around nineteen and fourteen during this time, Like obviously the
Speaker 2: lawsuit lasted longer so around this So then the two
Speaker 2: teens decided to sue McDonald's corporate and the two Bronx franchises.
Speaker 2: Their lawyer, Samuel Hirsch, took this case on with the
Speaker 2: desire then to make it a class action for all
Speaker 2: children under the age of eighteen in NYC who have
Speaker 2: had health problems from McDonald's. And he like this was
Speaker 2: his passion, Like he was very into this. He had
Speaker 2: other kids, like he really wanted this. Wow, he was
Speaker 2: he just like was anti McDonald's fast food and tried
Speaker 2: to get kids that like didn't have the knowledge. And
Speaker 2: he's just like passionate. But of course, like, honey, it's America.
Speaker 2: We're run by corporate you know what I mean, what
Speaker 2: are you talking about? Like, I feel cigarettes, it took
Speaker 2: decades to get any sort of movement. Now it's pretty
Speaker 2: you know, commercials, none of that anyways, So and then
Speaker 2: the company's lawyers are like are you kidding me? They're
Speaker 2: like everyone knows what it means to eat a fries.
Speaker 2: They're like, no, one is confused what we're doing here.
Speaker 2: But Bradley's father, Israel, said he never saw any nutritional
Speaker 2: info or ingredients at the restaurant, and in an AffA David,
Speaker 2: he wrote, in quotes, I always believe McDonald's was healthy
Speaker 2: for my children.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: So then hersh's like, hello, they spend a billion dollars
Speaker 2: in advertising two kids in quotes, young individuals are not
Speaker 2: in a position to make a choice after the onslaught
Speaker 2: of advertising and promotions that is in the New York Times.
Speaker 3: And then the McDonald's spokesperson.
Speaker 2: Walk Riiker went too far, I think, and he said,
Speaker 2: no one cares more about kids than McDonald's.
Speaker 3: It seems insane, it is, it really is.
Speaker 1: So that's you know, but I bet you the NFL
Speaker 1: has been like, no one cares more about our players
Speaker 1: than the NFL.
Speaker 3: It's like you, no, like they're all at the all FCT.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no one cares more about kids than McDonald's. Okay,
Speaker 2: So Riker claims that McDonald's makes nutritional info known on
Speaker 2: the website, brochures and posters, and then the New York Times,
Speaker 2: though at the time at this time did visit for
Speaker 2: the article. One of these locations on Bruckner Boulevard, and
Speaker 2: which was one of the two named in the lawsuit,
Speaker 2: and so, and then the listing of ingredients in the
Speaker 2: food could not be found at all. And then the
Speaker 2: other location, by the way, if you want to make
Speaker 2: a pilgrimage, is twenty six thirty Jerome Avenue.
Speaker 3: So that's that.
Speaker 2: And then January twenty second, two thousand and three, a
Speaker 2: Manhattan judge he threw this all out.
Speaker 3: He was like, are you out of your mind? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean he he was like, come on, and he
Speaker 2: declared people are responsible for what they eat, and that
Speaker 2: the teenager's complaints could spawn thousands of mclawsuits in quote
Speaker 2: if they are upheld.
Speaker 3: So the judge, Robert W.
Speaker 2: Sweet He wrote that there can't be legal consequences to
Speaker 2: hamburger consumption unless the consumers are unaware of the dangers
Speaker 2: of eating such food. He said he dismissed the suit
Speaker 2: because plaintiffs they failed to show that McDonald's engaged in
Speaker 2: deceptive practices and that the consumers had inadequate access to
Speaker 2: information about McDonald's products. And so his comparison is to asbestos.
Speaker 2: He's like, nobody knew the dangers of asbesos until decades later.
Speaker 2: That's a different than burger and fries have fat in it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So and at the end of the day, the problem
Speaker 2: is more that our government allows us to eat poison.
Speaker 3: Like that's what I mean.
Speaker 2: The bigger problem is why are we eating bad things
Speaker 2: with bad Like other countries have better food laws, yes,
Speaker 2: and they also have McDonald's, but they're not suffering the
Speaker 2: same problems as us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And.
Speaker 1: Like it's a similar thing with like high fructose corn syrup,
Speaker 1: like other countries don't use that, Like but.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's like everybody, Yes, everybody knows a brogram for ies
Speaker 1: have fat. But it's almost like there's so many things
Speaker 1: that are up there that are like, hey, alcohol, if
Speaker 1: you're pregnant, alcohol is bad for your baby. It's like
Speaker 1: why would we not do something like that, Like that's
Speaker 1: all kinds of places. There's like elevators and shit where
Speaker 1: it will just say like by the way, this premises
Speaker 1: might have X like chemical and if you're pregnant, that's
Speaker 1: not great for it. Like that shit's everywhere, So I
Speaker 1: don't know why it would There wouldn't be like disclaimers
Speaker 1: that are.
Speaker 3: Like they do calories.
Speaker 1: Now, yes, now they do calories, but it's like eating
Speaker 1: this once in a while or once a week is
Speaker 1: not even that bad once, but doing it as your
Speaker 1: meal every day, that was like what Morgan Spurlock was
Speaker 1: trying to prove. It's like the consumption of it as
Speaker 1: your constant full men, like full diet is what's also bad,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: But I also understand, like if you're a teen who
Speaker 2: wasn't taught it, like if you just don't know and
Speaker 2: your parents don't know, then you don't know.
Speaker 1: And I think it's hard for people to grasp that.
Speaker 1: I went to college and I was not drinking a
Speaker 1: drop of water. I was drinking Snapple raspberry Snapple iced
Speaker 1: teas six a day. Maybe like I should not have
Speaker 1: been doing that, Like nobody told me, like, oh, by
Speaker 1: the way, drinking.
Speaker 3: Juice, like basically juice.
Speaker 1: It was like equivalent is like so sugary, that's so
Speaker 1: bad for you. And then finally, like when I figured
Speaker 1: it out, I was like, oh fuck, I should just
Speaker 1: be having like one of these.
Speaker 3: A day, maybe, you know, Like it's just you just
Speaker 3: don't always know.
Speaker 1: And I don't think in general, our education system talks
Speaker 1: enough about like nutrition and health because the food pyramid
Speaker 1: we've talked about this is like bullshit too, right.
Speaker 2: Well, I think they've I think they've admitted that. I
Speaker 2: think they said, whoopsie, maybe not eleven servings of bread
Speaker 2: a day.
Speaker 3: Right, bread and dairy on the bottom, bitch, damn.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's so interesting being a kid because we
Speaker 2: took a field trip to the local grocery store, jewel,
Speaker 2: what's up the time of my life? Like I truly
Speaker 2: remember that field trip being like amazing, so just cute. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: So but this judge was eighty and he had a
Speaker 2: lot of zingers, and so the New York Times is like,
Speaker 2: you know, he was around before McDonald's was ever a
Speaker 2: big part of the culture, so he just wasn't having
Speaker 2: it like very I mean, he's eighty, we I don't know.
Speaker 2: So he at one point called McNuggets he goes are
Speaker 2: a Mcfrankenstein creation of various elements not utilized by the
Speaker 2: home cook.
Speaker 3: And I kind of like that.
Speaker 2: And then others, like several other suits began to pop
Speaker 2: up during this time, but this one actually made it
Speaker 2: the furthest in the court system of any others, which
Speaker 2: and then it was thrown out and then after this case,
Speaker 2: now at least twenty six states have common sense consumption laws.
Speaker 2: And again it's like we're protecting these corporations, which I
Speaker 2: do think is bad and I think our quality of
Speaker 2: food should be better and we should have Europe's laws
Speaker 2: of like chemicals and bad stuff. And then it's also
Speaker 2: known as the cheeseburger law. So and this is only
Speaker 2: made me want McDonald's. So that's kind of tough for everybody.
Speaker 3: Guess I know where you're going right now?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, you know what I'm gonna do. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna hit up that ten dollars Noki. I think, yes, baby,
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 3: Well, sorry to tell.
Speaker 2: I feel like I keep giving clues to where I
Speaker 2: live and I have to stop, like people are gonna
Speaker 2: zero in on what's going on.
Speaker 3: I don't think.
Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna track you down via ten dollars, Joki. That
Speaker 1: would be crazy. There's gotta be a few places in
Speaker 1: the city that offer that. But that was a great
Speaker 1: thank you for telling us about that lawsuit. I knew
Speaker 1: about the hot coffee lawsuit, but I don't know if
Speaker 1: I knew that anybody had ever done it. For the
Speaker 1: actual food.
Speaker 2: Well, the hot Coffee one. There's a whole doc about
Speaker 2: about it, and it's actually like the girls got fucked
Speaker 2: over huge. Sorry I didn't cover that. I really didn't.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like that's the same. Yeah, But let's
Speaker 2: get into our post mortem. No guests today, baby, just
Speaker 2: more of our thoughts.
Speaker 3: All right, let's.
Speaker 1: Get into our post mortem for this episode.
Speaker 2: I mean it is lucky we're doing back to back. Really,
Speaker 2: I mean she did to get assaulted. I was like,
Speaker 2: you know, from Shadow to Fat or really on a
Speaker 2: fun roll.
Speaker 3: But there's brutal crimes, there's zaf yes, but it is wild.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: And that the reveal at the end of this episode
Speaker 1: is truly insane, Like just the doctrine photos of Rooney
Speaker 1: Mara from her specialty obesity school that she was hidden
Speaker 1: away at is insane.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: But but it does sound she'll never be able to
Speaker 2: play piano. I don't think again like her the fingers
Speaker 2: are sure sure? I mean, wait, have you other sen
Speaker 2: I probably have brought it up on this fucking podcast.
Speaker 3: I really gotta get a memory in a life.
Speaker 2: But do you know that Allison Williams movie with the violin,
Speaker 2: the cello and oh, yeah.
Speaker 1: I saw a commercial for it and I couldn't watch it. Okay, no,
Speaker 1: no crazy. In the commercial there's something moving underneath the skin,
Speaker 1: and that's a deal breaker for me, Like anything that's
Speaker 1: like wiggling underneath your skin.
Speaker 3: I can't.
Speaker 1: I cannot watch it, Like it makes me want to die.
Speaker 1: The Perfectation, that's cool, Yeah, the perfect Perfection. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: would be good for cinematrix. Sorry, yeah, I mean she's
Speaker 1: a little scream queen herself, to be honest.
Speaker 2: Wait, guess who's in that. Guess who's in The Perfection?
Speaker 2: Friend of the Pod, Stephen Weber. Oh so maybe, I
Speaker 2: mean step It's a crazy movie, but I get the
Speaker 2: I get the like maggot skin.
Speaker 3: There's another thing.
Speaker 2: Is it insidious where there's bugs crawling in a face?
Speaker 1: Or is it just a well there's a there's something
Speaker 1: like that and long legs. I close my eyes. But
Speaker 1: bug movie, Yeah, two thousand and six, I remember. Yeah, hmm, Well,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say there was a preview for another
Speaker 1: movie that's.
Speaker 3: Very M Threegan as I call it.
Speaker 1: That's from the same producers, I believe as M Threegan
Speaker 1: about like Ai and like Alexa kind of like coming,
Speaker 1: like coming alive and it looks creepy and oh.
Speaker 3: There's a movie. Hold on, We're going to get into
Speaker 3: the post mortem of this. Hold on. Have you heard
Speaker 3: of this movie?
Speaker 1: It's got Demi Moore and Margaret Qually and it's called
Speaker 1: The Substance No Never, And it looks freaky and like
Speaker 1: right up our alley, Like, I think we're gonna have
Speaker 1: to see it. And when you see Long Legs, I
Speaker 1: bet it will play as a preview. But I had
Speaker 1: seen just like a post about it on Instagram and
Speaker 1: read the little blurb and was like.
Speaker 3: Oh, this is this is good. This is good.
Speaker 1: It's like about it's like about, oh it's coming out
Speaker 1: on my birthday, it's coming out on September twentieth. But
Speaker 1: it's like about women and aging and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Do you want me to read the log line?
Speaker 2: A fading celebrity decides to use a black market drug,
Speaker 2: a cell replicating substance that temporarily creates a younger, better
Speaker 2: version of herself.
Speaker 3: That doesn't sound like a good idea at all. No,
Speaker 3: But the movie looks. No, the movie looks incredible.
Speaker 2: But it's like, yeah, if you're creating a younger version
Speaker 2: of yourself, it will attack you. I'm making leaps, but yeah,
Speaker 2: it's never science will attack you. Yeah yeah, yeah, wait
Speaker 2: this looks so good.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I'm like subsence. That's on my fall list.
Speaker 2: You know, she's she's a NEPO that really keeps it,
Speaker 2: keeps it, has it going on?
Speaker 3: Is that something to say? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I like, I do like a NEPO that uh
Speaker 1: has a different last name. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't know, don't even know, you know, well those
Speaker 1: who know, no, that's yeah. I mean you know, look,
Speaker 1: you're a Maaya hawk. Jack Quaid also came forward and said,
Speaker 1: I'm a NEPO. I didn't know Dennis Quaid was right wing.
Speaker 1: I just found that out. I just like him, like
Speaker 1: he was so inner space, like he was so cute young,
Speaker 1: and now he's like an old guy married he's been
Speaker 1: married four times, but he's like, this one's the one,
Speaker 1: the the one that's the age of your children is
Speaker 1: the one.
Speaker 3: Uh. And then I and then when.
Speaker 1: That ad he was in a movie that had an
Speaker 1: add on for at the Long Legs and Jared just
Speaker 1: lean over goes you know he's right wing, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I didn't know that I wish I didn't.
Speaker 3: Know, But anyway, this episode is wild. I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's no lessons here in this episode. Don't be mad
Speaker 1: at people who are overweight, don't be mad at people
Speaker 1: who have brown hair. I mean it's like there's you
Speaker 1: can't hate people for for no fucking reason. It's like
Speaker 1: that's the that's the moral of this episode.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, and stop projecting, you know. Yeah, it's like these
Speaker 2: are your own issues. Let these people live. It's like
Speaker 2: you think this guy has it too good. He's missing
Speaker 2: a foot, you know what I mean, like, leave him alone.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't understand attacking someone that's like it struggling, Yeah,
Speaker 2: already struggling. If you want to go pick on some
Speaker 2: don't pick on anyone. But if you're gonna pick on someone,
Speaker 2: make sure they have everything going for them first.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: And I'm glad they got the footage of her stealing
Speaker 1: that hack, cause she was trying to act like such
Speaker 1: a little such a little cutie.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I was singing while we were talking
Speaker 2: about the right wing. There was like a comic once
Speaker 2: and he goes, you know, if Handmaid's tail was real,
Speaker 2: like I wonder if i'd be a good guy.
Speaker 3: I've told you about this, and then I.
Speaker 2: Was like, you absolutely would not, And he was shocked
Speaker 2: by this answer, and I'm like, you would not put
Speaker 2: your life on the line for women's rights, Like, stop
Speaker 2: pretending you would fight the system.
Speaker 3: And I kind of want to message him now and be.
Speaker 2: Like, you know, it's time to start your handmaiden's tale,
Speaker 2: good guy journey, babe, right right?
Speaker 3: Are you time to really stand up?
Speaker 2: Like I kind of want to, you know, message him,
Speaker 2: be like, you know, time is about to start kicking
Speaker 2: for you to really prove what.
Speaker 3: A total what a guy you are.
Speaker 2: You know you gotta help your Yeah, he married someone
Speaker 2: that was I think twenty five years younger than him.
Speaker 2: Oh baby, and then we do jokes about her acting
Speaker 2: crazy and it's like, oh, you don't relate to this girl.
Speaker 3: Oh she's acting immature. Interesting?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah interesting? Oh who could have called that interesting?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Also, update to my gay husband, he wrote, and I'll
Speaker 2: iron our clothes and bags, so you know.
Speaker 1: There will not be a crinkled tell far strap to
Speaker 1: be found in that home.
Speaker 3: There will not there will not.
Speaker 1: Every there will be a full telfar closet in that
Speaker 1: home with separate sides his and hers tell far sides
Speaker 1: of the closet, because that would be America that I
Speaker 1: want to live in. We do have so many telfars
Speaker 1: between us. I would say, you sure do, you sure do,
Speaker 1: but I'm on a freeze.
Speaker 3: I'm on a freeze.
Speaker 1: Well, now that we know also that that little Liberty uh,
Speaker 1: the Liberty mascot carries a little tell far I mean
Speaker 1: it so cute bait.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, little for little to her proportions.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's move on to our what would Sister Peg
Speaker 1: do for this week? That's our weekly segment where we
Speaker 1: direct you towards an organization, an article, a book, something
Speaker 1: to give you more info about.
Speaker 3: What we talked about today.
Speaker 1: And today we wanted to point you to a page
Speaker 1: on World Obesity dot org that covers ending weight stigma.
Speaker 1: Weight stigma refers to the discriminatory acts and ideologies targeted
Speaker 1: towards individuals because of their weight and size, and it
Speaker 1: is the result of weight bias. There are so many latent,
Speaker 1: stigmatizing beliefs about people with obesit that you can have
Speaker 1: weight bias without even realizing it. And this page lays
Speaker 1: out a lot of those untrue stereotypes and what drives
Speaker 1: that stigma. It's also a resource on how to tackle
Speaker 1: weight stigma in personal relationships and in the workplace. So
Speaker 1: for more info on that, you can head over to
Speaker 1: Worldobesity dot org or as usual, we will link to
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Speaker 3: It, sure fucking will.
Speaker 2: And next week we will be doing parasites from season two,
Speaker 2: episode nineteen, So enjoy that, babies. We'll see you next week.
Speaker 2: Give us some stars, keep living your lives, make good choices,
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