1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you in iHeart three D 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: audio For maximum effect and fun, headphones are recommended. If 3 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: we had a theme song for our fantasy football league, 4 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: what would it be? Wow, you're putting me on the spot. Yeah, 5 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: don't go breaking maha. I don't know. That's the first 6 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: thing that popped into my head. Welcome to the Jungle 7 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 1: was mine. But I don't even know that that makes 8 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: any sense. Hi. There, it's me Rain Wilson. I played 9 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: Dwight K. Shrewts on the Office on NBC, but more importantly, 10 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: on The Office Fantasy Football League. I am the manager 11 00:00:48,280 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: of Satan's Ballerinas. Hi, guys, welcome to a very special 12 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: edition of The Office Deep Dive. I. Well, I'm your host, 13 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: Brian Baumgardner. But I may sound a little different. You 14 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: might notice things a little different, right, Well, that's because 15 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: we're not in a studio. No, we're at one of 16 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: my well favorite establishments here in San Diego, California, getting 17 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: ready to cheer on the Green Bay Packers. That's right, 18 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: football is back, baby. But before we get to hid 19 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: join the game, I hope I told you before I 20 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: was going to bring back some of the other managers 21 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: of our fantasy football league, and that's what I'm gonna 22 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: do today. Today's guest is none other than mister Seahawk, 23 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: mister Rain Wilson himself. Now, Rain has been a part 24 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: of our league since the very beginning, like myself. Some 25 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: might say he's oldest time. Okay, nobody says that, but 26 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: he does have a certain reputation, if you will, in 27 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: the league for being how do I put this heat? 28 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: He's a trash talker. Okay, he likes to stir the pot, 29 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: but hey, that's what makes us loved, right or at 30 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: least tolerated. Now, Rain and I we're gonna go deep. 31 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 1: This is a deep dive, after all. We're going to 32 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: talk everything from the kickoff of the football season to 33 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: some of his big blue projects, his adventures, and the 34 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: meaning of the universe. So that's right, this this is 35 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: gonna be a big one. That's what she said. So 36 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: settle in, grab a cold one if you want no pressure. 37 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: I definitely will, and get ready for the incredible, the 38 00:02:53,680 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: unmistakable Rain Wolson. Bubble and Squeak, I love it, Bubble 39 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: and Squeak on Bubble and Squeaker cook at every month. 40 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: Left over from the Nattyfore I was gonna say I 41 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: have absolutely the worst fantasy football team in our league. 42 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: But then I looked at yours. But I don't understand 43 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: how with the team that I have, I don't understand 44 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: how I got seventy six points. All right, So we're 45 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: gonna get into well discussing some of life's big questions 46 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: and Dwight shrewt. But we're here for some football ragin 47 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: seventeenth year of the Office Fantasy Football League. First off, 48 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: let's let's talk about the draft a little bit. Now. 49 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: We did the draft. We did a zoom draft, yes, 50 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: and a snake draft, not an auction draft, a snake 51 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: a snake draft, not an auction draft. And we were 52 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: on zoom most of us, most almost all of us. Now, 53 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:21,679 Speaker 1: I do have to say this, I thought that the 54 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 1: zoom idea is great, but nobody talked and everyone was 55 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: looking at their sheets and the thing. So every time 56 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: I would look at the zoom, all you see are 57 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: people looking down or looking straight ahead, but not looking 58 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: at the camera. They're looking at their things. That's true, 59 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: it's kind of ridiculous. I feel it's true that it 60 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: was kind of still it was not it was kind 61 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: of a letdown socially, and it wasn't. It wasn't the 62 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: rip roaring fun I thought it would be. I was 63 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: the one who pushed for a zoom, although you had 64 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: done it last year. But I couldn't do it last year, 65 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: and last year was more fun. I don't know why. Yeah, 66 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: people are taking take it seriously. People, Well they should, Yes, 67 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: they do take it now, you, I would say, you 68 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: take it as seriously as anyone. Sure, yeah, I take 69 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: it very seriously. Now. You you played David Wallace, Yes, 70 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: you played David Wallace and son and and it's mostly 71 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: his son. Yeah. Then they smoked me and Tyreek Hill 72 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: thirty two points, Kelsey twenty three points, Jamar Chase from 73 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: Cincinnati nineteen points, Robbie Gould from San Francisco got fourteen. 74 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: Give me a break. That's more than Austin Ekeler, my 75 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: first pick in the kicker from San Francisco. So, but 76 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: what about all the office fans listening right now, going, 77 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: I don't play fantasy football. I don't understand what the 78 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: hell you're talking about. Well I don't. I mean, I'm 79 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: not that concerned about that right now, because here's the 80 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: thing we do. And so I want I want to 81 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: I want to talk about about about me for a 82 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: second and our friend John Krasinski. We had our draft 83 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: at a at a normal time in the United States. 84 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: He was in Romania. The point about bringing him up 85 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: is that I played him and because he was traveling 86 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: in Romania, he was auto drafting, and he destroyed me. 87 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: I mean that's particularly frustrating. Like he got Jalen Hurts, 88 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: who scored I don't know, seventy two points. Yeah, he's 89 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: got thirty thirty five points from Jalen Hurts, who would 90 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: have thunkt Aaron Rodgers one point three two, Your good buddy, 91 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, MVP Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, it was, it was. 92 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: It was not the best week for the Packers and 93 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: certainly for me. It's very What's what's the name of 94 00:06:54,480 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: your team? Satan's Ballerinas. That's my old school names. Times 95 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: I mix it up when I have a good pun. 96 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: I have another league where I drafted as an auction league. 97 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: I drafted Russell Wilson, and I call it let Russ 98 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: cook meth. Why is he cooking meth? I don't know, 99 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: because everyone says let Russ cook. That's kind of the 100 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: Seattle chant because they want him to get unleashed so 101 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: he can just kind of do his thing, which they're 102 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: finally starting to let him do. And he threw for 103 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: four touchdowns and he's kind of unstoppable. But I like 104 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: let Russ cook meth because it makes me laugh. You 105 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: you have, well, you have Jason Myers, you have the kicker. 106 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: You have Oh, I have you? You have no other? 107 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: Was that disappointing? I'm gonna get I'm gonna I'm gonna 108 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: trade for someone. I'm gonna get someone going here. How 109 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: do you feel about Seattle this year? I feel really 110 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: good about Seattle, But there are some other teams out 111 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: there that are really you know, the Rams are going 112 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: to be tough to beat this year. The NFC West 113 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: is going to be tough across the board. Yeah, and 114 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: Arizona as well. And I think there's gonna be a 115 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: few others that pop out there. And Tampa Bay was 116 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: looking surprisingly stout after their Super Bowl win on Game 117 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: one against a tough Dallas team. Listen to us, we 118 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: should have our own ESPN show. I mean, really shouldn't 119 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: we should? I mean we want to talk about the 120 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: office at all. I feel bad for the people going, 121 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: I'm want to talk about us, Well, we will, we will, 122 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: we will talk about the office. But I talked to 123 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: Stephen Socks recently, our commissioner of the Fantasy Football League. Yea, 124 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: he told us that you offer the worst trades to 125 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: anyone in the way. Yeah, now is this true? Now? 126 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: Is this? Do you when you're when you're proposing that trade, 127 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: are you just hoping that the other person is not 128 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: paying attention? No? I When you offer a trade, it's 129 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: like it's like you go to a market in Morocco 130 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, that's a nice rug. How much 131 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: is it ninety dollars? You know what, I'll give you 132 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: thirty Oh you are you're crazy, Okay, sixty, I'll give 133 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: you thirty seven. Okay, and you meet and you you 134 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: buy it at fifty dollars. What I mean like, that's 135 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: how you're supposed to do the draft or a trading. 136 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: That's what you do a trade too. So it's like 137 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: when I say, like, oh, I'll trade you, you know, 138 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill for Russell Wilson, that means like you we're 139 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: gonna meet in the middle, We're gonna find something like 140 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: like work with me here, work with me. That's my 141 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: idea is that you kind of work it along. But 142 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: some people are like they get insulted and like no, 143 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: and then it's done. What about what if I what 144 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: if I offered you Ezekiel Elliott for Austin Ekeler, I 145 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: would seriously consider that. Do you want to trade? Do 146 00:09:52,240 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: you want to consummate that right now? Yes? Okay, let's 147 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: do it. Okay, let's do it Ezekiel Elliott for Austin Ekeler. Yep, 148 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: we're done. And now we have a trade done, consummated publicly, 149 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: so we'll see what happens. So what else is going 150 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: on with you? Besides fantasy? What are you? Are there 151 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: any work projects that are happening right now? Yeah? Thanks 152 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: for asking, Brian. I just did a movie with Brian 153 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: Cranston and Annette Benning called Jerry and Marge Go Large, 154 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: and it was a very funny and interesting film. I'm 155 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: really excited for people to see it. It's based on 156 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: a true story about this couple in Michigan that figured 157 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: out that this certain lottery game, if they played it 158 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: the right way, they could be guaranteed winners. So they 159 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: got all the people in their small town in Michigan 160 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: to over the years to be playing this lottery game 161 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: and made dozens and dozens of people, I won't say 162 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: like millionaires, but kind of saved their town a sense. Actually, 163 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: wait a second, this is this is a true this 164 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: is based on true story. True story. I've heard this story. Yeah, yeah, 165 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: it's an amazing story. And the name of the article, 166 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: if you want to google it is Jerry and Marge 167 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: go large. And I play a supporting role of the 168 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: guy who runs the liquor store where they buy all 169 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: their thousands of lottery tickets. Okay, I kind of come 170 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: along for the ride, So that's it was. It was 171 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: a lot of fun working with Brian again and people 172 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: who know that he directed the work Bus episode of 173 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: The Office terrific director, multi talented human being, great human being. 174 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: And I shot in Atlanta, your hometown, which I have 175 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: to say was the first time I've shot there. I've 176 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: been through a bunch of times. I loved it. Atlanta 177 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: as an amazing town, great food, culture, diversity, vibrant, traffic sucks, 178 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: but it was really a phenomenal where and then I'm 179 00:11:55,400 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 1: gonna go, I'm gonna go do a part on this 180 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: new AMC Limited series called Dark Winds, which I know 181 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: sounds a lot like farts. Warm Winds would be more so, 182 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: but Dark Winds, Okay, go ahead, It sounds like farts. 183 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go do that for a few days. 184 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: And then I got a bunch of other thing. I'm 185 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: always cooking up stuff, Brian, I got a lot of stuff. No, 186 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: I know, you're always cooking up stuff. Now I'm gonna 187 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna for one moment, I want to go back 188 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: to your other movie I did. Hey, let's see if 189 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: I can reconstruct the plot of this. The first movie 190 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: I ever did was called Herman Usa Okay, and it 191 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: was about a small town that, oh gosh, I don't 192 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: want to mess this up, that had too many men 193 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: in it and not enough women and the town was dying, 194 00:12:55,160 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: and so they similarly put out an ad basically like 195 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: we're looking for women to come to town, basically to 196 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: try to get the ratio up. And it worked and 197 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: that town was saved as well. Herman Usa Available. I 198 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: have no idea where from somewhere circa late nineties, ish, 199 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, Okay, So I did, I did. I 200 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: did a movie like that where not your address, But 201 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: where were you? What area were you staying in Atlanta? 202 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 1: I stayed at eighty four Willoughby Street. Why I just 203 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: literally said, don't give the address. Now, that's why I stayed. 204 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: It's an airbnb. You can go, oh my god, you 205 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: can go rent the airbnb that I stayed in and 206 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: then think about you in that airbnb yep, and the 207 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: things that you did there. I didn't do anything to fire, 208 00:13:49,160 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: as I promise you. I hear you. Also, you have 209 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: a new pet. We have a My wife is insane, 210 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: which I love, right, she's it's very funny. There is 211 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: a picture of her that she has framed on her 212 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: desk of her feeding these geese that are on her 213 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: port or her deck, like in the seventies when she's 214 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: a child. She's a little girl in a white dress 215 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: like just just with eyes filled with wonder feeding these geese. 216 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: And she loves animal I mean, she's animal gaga crazy. 217 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: And she has horses at a nearby stables. And this 218 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: is a true story. Her horse died, which was very sad, 219 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: but it was old. It was about twenty six years 220 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: old and it had some health problem. Her white horse 221 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: named Gust died and then they cleared it out. They 222 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: left the stall empty, and then moved into the stall 223 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: a week two weeks later was a white peacock. It 224 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: really was a phn a white pea hen, female peacock, 225 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: and we just moved in on its own. Yeah, there's 226 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: no one knows where it came from. They'd never seen 227 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: it before, they'd never seen any p hens in the area. 228 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, it was just living in this stall. 229 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: Why no joke, a white peacock. It couldn't stay in 230 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: that in the stables because it was flapping around and 231 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: spooking the horses. So and we learned by the way 232 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: that peacocks are the largest flying birds. I always thought 233 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: like a condor was bigger, but I guess a peacock's 234 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: heavier than a condor. So she trained it to go 235 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: get bird feed in a big pen and then closed 236 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: the pen, and we brought it and brought this peacock 237 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: Almah which means soul in Spanish, Almah to our house. 238 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: So now we have in fact, I'm looking at Almah 239 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: right now, right outside my window. She likes to sit 240 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: in this olive tree and groom herself and look in 241 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: at me in the window. That is c and it won't. 242 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: It doesn't fly away. It likes it's home. It like 243 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: because we feed it. We'd give it some bird seed 244 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: and berries and stuff like that. So, so you have horses, 245 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: you also have my favorite of your animals. And what 246 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: I didn't know that it existed before a zonkey. We 247 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: have a zonkey. Yeah, yes, we have a zebra donkey 248 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: hybrid named Derek. But now do you have the zonkey 249 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: because you like the word zonkey, because that's why I 250 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: would have it. I do love the word zonkey. But 251 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: this is my wife again. I think this is what 252 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: happens when you marry a minor television celebrity and you 253 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: have too much time on your hands. She saw a 254 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: zonkey and she was like, oh my god, it's so beautiful. 255 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: It has zebra stripes but looks like a donkey. And 256 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: then she googled zonkies and the first thing that came 257 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: up was zebra Zaras dot com. Okay, she went to 258 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: zebra Zaras dot com, which used to be located in Riverside, California. 259 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: She called them, She's like, do you sell zonkies? And 260 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: they said, well, as a matter of fact, we just 261 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: had a new zonkey that was born yesterday named it 262 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: didn't have a name, And for thirty five hundred dollars, 263 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: when he's six weeks old and can be weaned from 264 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: his mother, we will have him delivered to your house. 265 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,959 Speaker 1: And we had a horse corral behind our house, and 266 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: my wife was like, okay, here's my credit card number. 267 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: It was six weeks later there was a zonkey at 268 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: our house. Oh, and this is why people hate the 269 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: elites of Hollywood. You have old You have a white, 270 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: semi albino peaca. Yes, okay, a zonkey. We also have 271 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: a donkey named chili Beans. And by the way, chili 272 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: Beans is adorable. And donkeys are the best animals in 273 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: the world. I love donkeys. They're just sweet, they're cuddly, 274 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: they're loyal, they're just wonderful. Highly recommend And then in 275 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: our backyard we have two pigs, Snortington and Amy. Yeah. 276 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: And then we have two pit bulls rescues, Poe and Diamond. Right. Yeah, 277 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: So you're so your dogs, you rescue, You're you're more 278 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: exotic rescue to pay Chili Beans a rescue. Derek is 279 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: not a rescue. Derek is a genetic monstrosity. Z Yes, 280 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: because they put the spermatozoa of the go ahead, oh, 281 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: go ahead. Problem with spermatozoa, you can't say that on 282 00:18:55,680 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: your show, No go ahead. You can say spermatozoa, spermatozoa, potato, pato, 283 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: go ahead. You put in, you put the spermatozoa into 284 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: to fertilize the female donkey, the zebra. Spermatozoa into the 285 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: way into the vagina right of the donkey. Okay, that's 286 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: how thereby creating Derek the zonky. Okay. So now this 287 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: is a perfect transition because for those of you listening, 288 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: are we going to talk about The Office? For Christ's sake, Brian, 289 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: this is here an abomination on the set of The Office. 290 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: This is this is what I'm going at now. I've 291 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: talked to several people about this, right, and about certain actors' personalities, 292 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: and for me, and I think for most, you are 293 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: a crazy dichotomy, right, because you are spiritual, which I 294 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: want to talk about in a minute, incredibly spiritual, thoughtful, 295 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: lover of people and the world. And you are the crudest, 296 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: most inappropriate. Because now if we were on the set 297 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: of the I don't I mean you talk about people 298 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: talk about you couldn't do the office today. You couldn't 299 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: do the office today. The reason you couldn't do the 300 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: office today is because you on set and the description 301 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: and I was baiting you a little. The description that 302 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: you would have given publicly to everyone on set, cast 303 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: and crew about how exactly the zonkey was created would 304 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: have been way more triple X rated than what you 305 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: just did. And you happened to you you were trying 306 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: to use scientific terms. But yes, go ahead, go ahead now. 307 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: And this is interesting because I wouldn't say that I'm 308 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: necessarily a spiritual person. I aspire to be a spiritual person, 309 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: which is a person who's thoughtful and of service and 310 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: connected to you know, the reality of God and the 311 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: beauty and harmony of the universe. And I seek to 312 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: kind of let that joy seep through what I who 313 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: I am as a human being. But at the same time, yes, 314 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: I am an inappropriate, raunchy, little thirteen year old at heart, 315 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: and that's just part of who I am. So and 316 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 1: I also play these weird characters on television comedies, so 317 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: people it's kind of weird when people see me talking 318 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: about the high faith or you know, spiritual concepts or 319 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: conversations and they're like, wait, this is the guy who 320 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 1: played Dwighten was always taking his shirt off and was 321 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: telling fart jokes on the side of the office fart jokes. Well, worse, worse, yea, yeah, 322 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: So there's some dichotomy there, but it's all it's all 323 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: in good fun and it's all to uplift the spirits. Brian, 324 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 1: it's all to uplift the spirit. I want to go 325 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: into this with you a little bit because people ask 326 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: what you're most thankful for about, you know, working on 327 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: the office or things that I've gotten from it, And 328 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: I think, in truth, the tremendously powerful messages that I 329 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: hear from people that the show has given some comfort 330 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: in very difficult times that for me, that gift that 331 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: people give back to me or to us is the 332 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: greatest gift that we have. I mean, you know, service 333 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: members overseas or someone who's gone through, you know, having 334 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: a medical issue or a medical procedure, or watching the 335 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: show in the hospital, that it gives great comfort. And 336 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: my point is, I don't feel like that was ever 337 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: something we talked about. I felt like we were just 338 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: kind of being idiots and trying to create this funny 339 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: show and that sort of underlying comfort or nostalgia. Some 340 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: people have said that wasn't something that we were trying for, right, 341 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: you know, you said that perfectly, and I one hundred 342 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 1: percent agree with everything that you said. And it was 343 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 1: literally the most surprising thing about doing The Office for me. 344 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: And it started relatively soon. Where you know, people early 345 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: on in season two they started saying, oh, I love 346 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: the show, and then you know, season three, you know, 347 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: oh I watched the show. We watch it together as 348 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: a family, and then all of a sudden, I started 349 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: hearing these like, you know, our parents were getting a divorce, 350 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: and the siblings we would all gather and watch The 351 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: Office and it was a time when we could just 352 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: laugh together. My sister had cancer and we would watch 353 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: it in the in the hospital, and then the stories 354 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: just go on and on and on of how much 355 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: the laughter, camaraderie, bonhomie, uplifting kind of spirit of what 356 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: we created. And by we, I don't just mean the actors. 357 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: I mean Greg Daniels being our leader, really set the 358 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: tone and the great writers room that we had and 359 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: directors and the whole crew. It carried through, you know, 360 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: the love that we had on the set, carried through 361 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: into the characters and into that world, and it has 362 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: brought a lot of joy to two people and solace 363 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: and especially during this pandemic. And I You're absolutely right, Brian. 364 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: While we were shooting it, that was not what I 365 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: was thinking about. None of us were there kind of going, Wow, 366 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: this the laughter that we generate will bring so much 367 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,959 Speaker 1: peace to people's aching hearts in the world. We just 368 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: were like, you know, maybe Dwight could take a shirt 369 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: off in this scene. Known, what if Kevin bumped into 370 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: the furniture or something, you know, but what a wonderful bounty. 371 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: And you're right, it's it's the thing I am the 372 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: most grateful for. If I have to look in my 373 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: whole life, you know, if I'm going to set aside 374 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: gratitude for my wife and son and you know, wonderful 375 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: things in my family professionally, when I'm I most grateful 376 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: for the fact that I've got to be a part 377 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: of the office and that it has uplifted people's lives. Yes, well, 378 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: you actually just said something had not occurred to me 379 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: that I think is really interesting. We did truly care 380 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: about each other, and that that that there may be 381 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: something there that on screen people can appreciate and observe 382 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: as truth. Yeah, I think that carries through. You know, 383 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 1: I think the the warm, supportive, loving environment that we 384 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: created on the set kind of seeped into dunder Mifflin 385 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: as kind of like the whole idea is that it's 386 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: a it's a cold place and a weird place in 387 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: an alienated place, and where in these cubicles and we 388 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: have this terrible boss and whatnot, But there there was 389 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: a family that we created. I couldn't I can't believe 390 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: and I couldn't believe the number of teenagers who said, like, 391 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: I want to work at a place like dunder Mifflin. 392 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: No you don't. I have worked and soul sucking offices before. 393 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: You do not want to do it, And they don't 394 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: have that same camaraderie. And yeah, but you know what's crazy. 395 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: I had the opportunity to talk to a television critic, actually, 396 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: Emily Vanderwirth, and she said something about that point right there, 397 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: that is fascinating working in a dying industry in as 398 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: drab a place as possible, that there is now a 399 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: nostalgia for that because now it's become way more corporate 400 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: and commercial. You know, it's like the difference between dunder 401 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: Mifflin and Staples or whatever, like we talk about it 402 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: in the show. But the transition to today and you're 403 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: graduating college and you're looking for a job, that there 404 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: is sort of a weird nostalgia. Yeah, for a small, 405 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: old fashioned office building, people getting together and selling things, 406 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: good old fashioned madmen capitalism. I was just reading an 407 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: article to about how the auto industry is dying, like 408 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: auto dealerships, that whole model is dying, you know, with 409 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: like Carvana and online sales and stuff like that. And 410 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: I do think like ten years from now, there's it's 411 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot less auto dealerships. So maybe there's 412 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: a time when we're like we long for like a 413 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: good old fashioned car dealership where you get to walk 414 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: in and look at the cars. Never like a car museum. Never. 415 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: Although no and no, I can't stand car dealerships. But 416 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,719 Speaker 1: I don't know, is it age? Is it just like 417 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: my personality, I need to feel and touch something. That's 418 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 1: what he said. I need what they said, thank you. No, 419 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: But the online stuff is really difficult for me, like 420 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: shopping fully online. I mean, you know, toilet paper or whatever. 421 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: If you don't like the car dealerships and you don't 422 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: like to shop online, yeah, cars are different. What are 423 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: you gonna do? Well? I think the issue with the 424 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: car dealerships is I feel like intentionally the car industry. 425 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: Here we go, we're talking about the car industry. The 426 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: price of car has always been a mystery, and now 427 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: you can find out more and more and like that 428 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: whole idea, like, well, let me go talk to my manager. Now. 429 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: It's like you go online and some of these sites 430 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 1: and you're like, no, this is what the car costs. 431 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 1: This is what you can get it for me. Like that, 432 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 1: I think the whole thing is a scam. We should 433 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: just go to the assembly line and they come off 434 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 1: and they say, here's how much the car is. Like 435 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: here you go and drive it away. You know, I'm 436 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: with you. I'm with you. All right. We're gonna fix capitalism, Brian, 437 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: You and I two characters on a comedy television show. 438 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna fix We're gonna fix capitalism. Speaking of I 439 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: want you to tell people about the amazing organization you 440 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: and your wife founded, Leada Haiti. I know you've been 441 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: there a number of times. There was just another earthquake 442 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: in the region. Tell me about how that is going 443 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: and how are you How are your people there doing well? 444 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: Thanks for asking. Yeah, So my wife and I went 445 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: to Haiti before the big earthquake. So we were there 446 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine and we visited all over. 447 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: We stayed there for like nine or ten days. We 448 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: really fell in love with the country. And then the 449 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: giant earthquake hit in twenty ten and you know, three 450 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: hundred thousand people lost their lives, one of the biggest 451 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: natural disasters in human history, and we knew we needed 452 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: to do something. We both volunteered for this un sponsored 453 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: arts workshop with adolescent girls that we're all living on 454 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: a The one golf course in Haiti got turned into 455 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: a refugee camp, so we were teaching there and we 456 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: saw the power of teaching the arts and literacy to 457 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: adolescent girls and learn more about kind of girls education. 458 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: Michelle Obama, her whole thing is girls education is the 459 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: very It's one of the most effective means of creating 460 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: social change and real economic change in a country is 461 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: through girls education. So we along with our good friend 462 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: doctor Katherine Adams who recently passed away, we started leade 463 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: Haiti in rural Haiti teaching girls. We're known about eleven 464 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: locations teaching about working with about eight hundred girls. We 465 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: do scholarships, we have a computer lab, we do tutoring 466 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: and a lot of health work because you can't disregard health. 467 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: There's a food program that's connected as well. But I 468 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: haven't been able to go down to Haiti in about 469 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: two or three years because there's been a great political 470 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: unrest down there. We just hired a new I I said, 471 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: Katherine passed away earlier this year of cancer, was very sad. 472 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: We were able to hire a new in country director 473 00:30:54,240 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: who's wonderful and she's Haitian. Her name's Regine, and we'll 474 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: be going down soon. And we did have programs in 475 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: the south right where the recent earthquake hit, so we 476 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: just took a camera crew down there and documented kind 477 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: of what was happening and fortunately our girls all right. 478 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: Many lost family members, however, and we're trying to kind 479 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: of shore up that that program. And it's been great 480 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: because basically what I do, Brian is every year. In fact, 481 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: very soon I'm going to be launching a prizeo campaign 482 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: to raise money and I whore myself out as dwite 483 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: and I take all that money and I put it 484 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: all into Le Da Haiti and I'm able to raise 485 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: you know, a couple hundred thousand dollars a year just 486 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: from doing that, and it's great. It's worked out great. 487 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: So it's a it's a wonderful organization and it's really 488 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: challenging and also really fun to be working on it 489 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: with my wife as well. And we have an amazing 490 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: Haitian staff, incredible Haitian staff, twenty five Haitian employees that 491 00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: are good friends of ours that we collaborate with. That's awesome. Yeah. 492 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: If people who are listening they want to get involved, 493 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: where where should they go? Leade Haiti dot org l 494 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: I d E d l I d E Haiti dot org. Yeah, okay, great, 495 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: and follow us on social on Instagram lead a Haiti 496 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: on Instagram. And I know, even when we were working 497 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: together on the office, I mean, this is something you've 498 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: been doing for a decade now and I know made 499 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: huge impact. They're in Haiti. We try well. So you've 500 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: got fantasy football. That's basically enough for me. You're also 501 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: just shot a movie, gonna shoot this other show, you're 502 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: working with Leada Haiti and you also have a new 503 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: new podcast, Metaphysical Milkshake. How did that come about? So 504 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: a long time ago, while I was doing the office, 505 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: some friends of mine and I started a digital media 506 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,479 Speaker 1: company called Soul Pancake, and some of you may know 507 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: some of the videos. We had a very successful YouTube channel. 508 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: We did shows like Kid President and My Last Days 509 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: and a lot of viral video hits. Yeah, music video. 510 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: Did do a music video. Yeah, that was really fun. 511 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: You were great and Pajamas wonderful. Yes. I did a 512 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: little show on that called Metaphysical Milkshake because I love 513 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: deep philosophical conversations. I just love to kind of dig 514 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: into the biggest possible, big ideas, and that's something I've 515 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: always loved to do ever since I was a preteen. 516 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: So along with my friend doctor Reza Aslan, who was 517 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: a fantastic historian, writer, commentator, we started this podcast, Metaphysical Milkshake, 518 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: which is exploring life's big questions with some of the 519 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: biggest authors and thinkers and movers and shakers out there. 520 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: We've had Malcolm Gladwell on the show and Naomi Kleine, 521 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: so many great thinkers and the topics are all over 522 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: the place. You know, it's it can be. This week 523 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: we're interviewing. I'm so excited this guy, Ave Loebe, who's 524 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: a astrophysicist from Harvard who has this new book, Extraterrestrial. 525 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: It's all about the search for alien life. It's a great, 526 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:31,959 Speaker 1: great book. And so sometimes it's science, sometimes philosophy, sometimes spirituality. 527 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: We're unafraid to talk about, you know, God and life 528 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: and death and the soul. And so that's been really fun. 529 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: We've been doing this for cast Media and there's you know, 530 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: there's about twenty episodes out. They come out about every 531 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: week or so. You can subscribe wherever you get your 532 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: fine podcasts. You're talking to great thinkers. I haven't been 533 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: on yet. Oh god, how did we let that happen? 534 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: I mean, great thinkers of our day. I don't know. 535 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 1: I think that when we think about some life's big 536 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: questions that might be involved with topics like golf and 537 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 1: fantasy football. Yes, you know, I don't know why I'm 538 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: even I know I'm setting myself up here even beginning 539 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:26,919 Speaker 1: this subject, but I have to tell you that for me, 540 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: golf does bring me to a place of spirituality and 541 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: This is not a This is not a joke. I 542 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: know I'm opening myself up, but I know it's not 543 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: a joke. For me, I believe it's the It's the 544 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: equivalent of you know, I don't specifically meditate. I will 545 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: at times try to take moments of quiet, but for me, 546 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: on the golf course, it is the only time where 547 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: everything else falls away from me, which I feel like 548 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: is a form of meditating. And for me it is 549 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: strictly about accomplishing this one task and finding focus on 550 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: that one thing allows everything else to go away. Any 551 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:22,720 Speaker 1: other anxieties or work or family stresses or anything else 552 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: goes away, and it's simply me attempting to accomplish one goal, 553 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: which is to get the ball in the hole. Is 554 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,959 Speaker 1: that weird? Does that count? No? I relate to that completely. Now. 555 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: I do have a meditation practice, but as you know, 556 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 1: I play a lot of tennis. We used to play 557 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: tennis together, and you are a pretty damn good tennis player, 558 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: and you used to kick my butt sometimes not all 559 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: the time, well most of the time. But I've gotten 560 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,240 Speaker 1: a lot better since then. Yeah that was like twelve 561 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 1: years ago. But I feel the same way about tennis. 562 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: Because I think there's something beautiful about sport because it 563 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: forces you to be the moment. So when I'm on 564 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: the tennis court, the only thing that exists is that green, 565 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 1: yellow ball and where is it? And how am I 566 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: going to address it? So all of my natural I'm 567 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: a very anxious person, my anxiety lifts away and I'm 568 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: simply in my body, breathing, moving and witnessing this ball 569 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: and it's exhilarating. And all of a sudden, you're done 570 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 1: playing tennis an hour and a half two hours later, 571 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: and you're like, you just feel so refreshed and uplifted 572 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: because I've been looking at your phone and you haven't 573 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: been pondering things and obsessing over things, and you've just 574 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 1: been in the moment and been outside. It's glorious. So 575 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: I relate. Yes, you see, here's what we did. We 576 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: just talked about a life speak question just like this, irreverently, 577 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: with fun and in a relatable way. And that's what 578 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: we try and do on Metaphysical Milkshake. Oh well, that 579 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: doesn't seem so hard. Yeah, so I think I could 580 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: be a guest then, Yeah, I think so that's if 581 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: it's as easy as that. Well, there you have it. 582 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite big question to ponder or 583 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 1: one that you're currently pondering. Well, I think all of 584 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: the life's big questions that are the most meaningful to 585 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: me are we are living in really difficult times and 586 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: with climate change, with political divisions, with racism, with fears 587 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 1: of international divisions, and saber rattling going on, economic insecurity. 588 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: It's a really difficult time to be alive. And I 589 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 1: have you have kids, and I have a teenage son, 590 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,280 Speaker 1: and for so many young people, as mental health epidemic 591 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 1: is really extreme anxiety, depression, suicidal ideation, it's a very 592 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: difficult time. So anytime that you have a question about 593 00:38:55,560 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: like what is my life's purpose? Like why are we here? 594 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 1: And what can we do? On two levels, one make 595 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 1: the world a better place, but also to give our 596 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: lives kind of a deep satisfying rich wellness and wholeness. 597 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: So those two things go hand in hand. I believe 598 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 1: like we feel more rich and fulfilled and more well 599 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: the more we're giving to others, and the more we 600 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: give to others, the more rich and whole and fulfilled 601 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: we feel. So I think that's what young people need 602 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: to think about. There's so many young folk just to 603 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: have given up. You know, it's just like, why should 604 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 1: I care? It's all the world's going to hell and 605 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: everything's falling apart anyway, But you know, we can make 606 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: a difference. We need to make a difference, and in 607 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 1: making a difference you will find your fulfillment and eventually 608 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: your enlightenment. Excellent. On a recent episode of the podcast, 609 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: you mentioned that you were raised by aliens, not wolves. Well, 610 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: first of all, what does that What does that mean 611 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: to you? So you know, this goes back to Dwight. 612 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: So my parents were world class weird and I had 613 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 1: a very fractured family and it was a difficult place 614 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 1: and way to get raised. I did not have a wholesome, 615 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: loving familial unit. My mom, who was just a crazy hippie, 616 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 1: took off when I was two, and this in the 617 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 1: late sixties. My dad raised me. He had been traumatized 618 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: with a really horrific childhood. Then he married my stepmom. 619 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 1: They didn't love each other, they were she was a 620 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: very odd duck herself. So we had on the surface 621 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 1: what looked like a normal human family. I mean, we 622 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 1: had meat loaf and we'd watch episodes of mash or 623 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: cheers or whatever what is on the television, and it 624 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 1: would seem, you know, they would drive me to soccer 625 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 1: practice or what have you. But it seemed like a family, 626 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 1: but it really wasn't a family. So they were so 627 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: kind of odd and disconnected and awkward that I didn't 628 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 1: know how to fit in. So I felt like I 629 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,479 Speaker 1: was being raised literally like third rock from the Sun, 630 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: like in an alien family where I was My goal 631 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 1: was to like, how do normal people act in the world, 632 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: because I don't I'm sure not getting it from my parents. 633 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: So and I do think that that ultimately, that awkwardness 634 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 1: has helped me play roles like d White, because I'm 635 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 1: good at playing misfits and outsiders and loaners and weirdos, 636 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 1: and I've played a lot of I'm not just Dwight, 637 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: I've played a couple dozen of those along my path 638 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,959 Speaker 1: as an actor. But I think it all comes from 639 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,240 Speaker 1: my childhood. It all stems from that really weird Petrie 640 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:04,839 Speaker 1: dish that I grew up in. Yeah, well it's so 641 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: much occurs to me about that, but mostly I mean, 642 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 1: you are you know, for people who haven't seen rain 643 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: either on the stage, I've said this before. This is 644 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 1: public or in other movies. I mean, Rain is truly 645 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 1: one of the great actors, and he, like I, are 646 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 1: very interested in human behavior and creating a character physically, emotionally, 647 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: you know, creating a character by using all aspects of 648 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: a person to create that character. Do you feel like 649 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: that helped you? I mean you're having to you're having 650 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: to observe others to figure out how you should behave 651 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: when you're a kid. Do you feel like that helped 652 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: you as an actor or made you want to become 653 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: an actor at that point? Like that study of human behavior, Yeah, 654 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: that's it. I hadn't the thought of it in those terms. 655 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:06,760 Speaker 1: That's a great question, you know. Yes, I mean I 656 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 1: was always because I was such an outsider and I 657 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 1: didn't really know how to act, and I'm naturally just 658 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 1: kind of weird. The study of people and learning from 659 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,840 Speaker 1: them and kind of watching how humans work and what 660 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: makes humans tick is definitely a same set of skills 661 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: that one needs as an actor. So I'm sure there's 662 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 1: a correlation there. Yeah. Absolutely, And you know, no need 663 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: even to respond unless you have one, But you know, 664 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 1: this speaks to you know, he just talked. Rain just 665 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: talked about some deep stuff very candidly about his family. 666 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,319 Speaker 1: Yet I know you and you have a relationship with 667 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 1: your mom and had a very close relationship with your dad, 668 00:43:51,840 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 1: and your your ability to not judge people, obviously including 669 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 1: your family, is well, it's a very special thing about you. Well, Brian, 670 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 1: you're so kind, and thank you, thank you so much. 671 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,439 Speaker 1: I do judge people way too much and I need 672 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: to work on that on my spiritual journey. But I 673 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 1: think you know, listen, we're all just We're very flawed, 674 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 1: all of us, God bless us all. Just like the 675 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 1: characters in the Office, We're just we're flawed people and 676 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:30,320 Speaker 1: we want to be loved and we're we struggle and 677 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 1: we make mistakes, big, big mistakes. So we have to 678 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:39,839 Speaker 1: forgive everyone, you know, our parents, ourselves, the characters like 679 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 1: you know, Michael Scott and Dwight Shrewd and Kevin Malone 680 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,720 Speaker 1: that are just doing their best. And I think that 681 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:52,240 Speaker 1: that human that basic human spark of humanity that drove 682 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,760 Speaker 1: the Office. You know, these are people wanting to conduct 683 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 1: and wanting to be loved and wanting to have meaning 684 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,840 Speaker 1: and wanting to fit in and be and that everyone 685 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: has character flaws, even Pam and Jim have character flaws 686 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: and they're working them out over the course of the show. 687 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: We never really get much. We get a little better. 688 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 1: Dwight is at the end of the show has a 689 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 1: little bit, a little bit more wisdom than when he began. 690 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: So that was cool to be a part of that 691 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,320 Speaker 1: very slow You can't have a One of the problems 692 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 1: with TV comedies is that everyone gets very wise, very quickly, 693 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,280 Speaker 1: and then after two seasons there it's a different character 694 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 1: than when they started. You've got to have these deeply 695 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 1: flawed characters striving to be human, and you've got to 696 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 1: have them continue to be flawed or maybe even more 697 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 1: flawed season seven, eight nine, so that it's still interesting 698 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 1: and funny to watch. You can't have a you can't 699 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 1: have the Office with a Michael Scott who's self aware 700 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 1: you know so well. And maybe that, maybe maybe that 701 00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 1: is how The Office helps to answer, or at least pose, 702 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 1: one of life's big questions, that that flawed individuals, there's 703 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: a humanity, there's a love that exists even amongst flawed individuals, 704 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,799 Speaker 1: and I don't know, maybe gives all of us a 705 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 1: little more tolerance. Is that too much? I think that's 706 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 1: maybe right, No, I think I think that's what art does. 707 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 1: You know you and I did worked on that Chekhov 708 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 1: play together way back on the day. You know, we 709 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,280 Speaker 1: love Anton Chekhov and we both come from a theater background. 710 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 1: And you tell these stories and you're hoping that people 711 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 1: go into a dark theater and watch characters try and 712 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 1: live their lives and try and fail and try and 713 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 1: succeed occasionally, and they do the same thing on a 714 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 1: television show, and it hopes that it just increases the humanity, 715 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 1: that we have a bigger heart and more compassion one 716 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: for another. It's it's incremental, it's by degrees, but hopefully 717 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 1: the office has made a little bit of difference in 718 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 1: that respect. Up Rain, thank you so much for talking 719 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 1: to me. I love you. I appreciate our friendship so much. 720 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,360 Speaker 1: And and good luck, Brian. You're such a kind and 721 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 1: good person. And congrats on the success of this wonderful show. 722 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 1: And it's been an honor being on it. I miss 723 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 1: you living way down in extreme southern California that you live. 724 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say any town names, but I 725 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 1: hope that when you're up here too, we can actually 726 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 1: see each other and have a nice big hug and 727 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 1: a big slobbery kiss because you know I'll go for it. No, 728 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 1: there's no doubt you'll go for it. Well, I have 729 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 1: to come because I have That's what I said. There 730 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 1: you go, No, I have to see them, the white Peacock. 731 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,320 Speaker 1: I gotta go see. You've got to meet Almah. Yeah, 732 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,400 Speaker 1: and bring the kids up to see Almah and the 733 00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,359 Speaker 1: feed the pigs. Okay, done. It's a promise. We'll get 734 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 1: Oscar and Ursula and we'll make a day of it. 735 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,280 Speaker 1: All right. I love it. Thanks Rain, love you, Brian, 736 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:23,240 Speaker 1: Thank you. Well, folks, there you go with Rain Wilson. 737 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:28,400 Speaker 1: It is always gonna get really deep. There you have it, 738 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 1: a brief glimpse into the many facets, the many, the 739 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 1: many sides of Rain Wilson and well a taste of 740 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,799 Speaker 1: what you're gonna get if you tune into Metaphysical Milkshake 741 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 1: with Rain and Rezza on Apple Podcasts or wherever else 742 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: you listen to podcast. It's everywhere again. If you want 743 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: to find out more about lea day Haiti l I 744 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:57,799 Speaker 1: d e Haiti dot org. Rain, thank you so much. 745 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 1: When you talk to Rain, You're going to cover a 746 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 1: variety of topics. Next week, we're going to hear from 747 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 1: the incredible, the hilarious Ellie Kemper, of course, who played 748 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 1: Aaron Hannon on the show The Office. Thank you so 749 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 1: much for stopping by. I hope that you have a 750 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 1: fantastic week. We'll see you next time. The Office. Deep 751 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 1: Dive is hosted and executive produced by me Brian Bumgartner, 752 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:37,440 Speaker 1: alongside our executive producer Langley. Our producers for this episode 753 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,799 Speaker 1: are Liz Hayes and Diego Tapia. My main man in 754 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 1: the booth is Alec Moore. Our theme song Bubble and 755 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,920 Speaker 1: Squeak performed by my great friend Creed Bratton, and the 756 00:49:48,000 --> 00:50:10,359 Speaker 1: episode was mixed by seth Olansky. This episode was brought 757 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 1: to you in iHeart three D Audio. To experience more 758 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,840 Speaker 1: podcasts like this, search for iHeart three D Audio in 759 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app.