WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Madden Memories 0:00:02.360 --> 0:00:04.880 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:12.920 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:17.119 Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:22.400 official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:29.800 and Nicky Spagnola, and it is a wonderful Wednesday edition 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:34.640 of Mick Shots says, we have officially begun Cardinals week. 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:37.800 Here at the Star in Frisco. Bill Jones along with 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:43.000 Mickey Spagnola. Everson Walls in transit right now after a 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:47.080 canceled flight this morning. So shocking, right, not that he's 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:50.320 in transit, but the canceled flight portrait of that is 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:56.400 not shocking. And so no Everson today. He will be 0:00:56.440 --> 0:01:01.680 back tomorrow. But the football team is on the football 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:04.679 field and they just dallous. Football team is on the 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:08.240 football field. And they just finished practice too, by the way, 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:11.319 all right, And I did not notice any pads today, 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:17.520 No pads. It was another light practice. McCarthy said that 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:20.920 they would put on the helmets and shells tomorrow for 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:26.040 their more extensive practice. But he's still trying to sort 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:32.200 of restore energy or preserve energy this late in the season. 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:35.040 And not try to wear his team out in practices. 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:39.440 So they've been going light like this for the last 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:45.119 couple of weeks and continuing virtual meetings. Well, they got 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:47.840 plenty of exercise on Sunday night when you score fifty 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:50.280 six points. Yeah, but they only had to play three 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:56.360 quarters too, so they preserved more energy in that game too. 0:01:56.560 --> 0:02:02.320 So yeah, and I think they got some good. So 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:07.680 here's what I got here. We have a pool report 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:12.120 because of the COVID protocols. Are you the pool reporter? 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:16.400 Dave Hellman and Nick Eatman I think combined to do it? 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:20.000 So how do we know? You and me know that 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:22.560 they weren't in padgs today without having seen the pool 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:28.320 room because the pool report says practice was outdoors, also overcast, 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:33.680 with no shells or helmets, jerseys in caps, similar to 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:37.720 last Wednesday's practice. Okay, and I'll pull back the curtain 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:41.120 a little bit. Our s to BBC podcast studio happens 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:44.560 to be about twenty feet from the practice field. Now 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:46.880 we are not allowed to watch practice or go out 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:51.919 to the practice field, but the windows are there there. Yes, 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:55.960 we do see it. I purposely do not stop and 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:58.920 watch practice. I'll say that, but I can't help but 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.919 see that they didn't have pads on today. Yes, and 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:06.680 as I said, it's a pool report, so hopefully nobody 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:10.800 because I heard somebody say, well, Kelvin Watkins reported, well, no, 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.920 he read the pool report, so he didn't have anything 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:19.360 anybody else didn't have. So in order on the practice today, 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:23.560 Tony Pollard spent the first fifteen minutes of practice off 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:27.080 to the side on the chords with trainer Britt Brown, 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:30.320 and that's what he's been doing since he suffered the 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.600 foot injury. Did it all last week for the first 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:36.720 portion of practice and then went into practice and as 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:40.520 we saw in the game, they seems to be handling 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:47.120 the plantar fascida just fine. Also, Tyrann Smith was participating 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:54.480 in individual drills. Both McCarthy, Jerry Jones Stephen Jones say 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:58.040 they're very optimistic that he'll be ready to go in 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:02.160 this game. And do you rely if indeed he starts 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.720 with I think they're planning on it. It'll be the 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:08.400 first time those five guys have all started in the 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:13.360 same game. Interesting, and I went back. I doubted that 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:16.479 when I first heard it, and so if you think 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:23.320 about it, um Lele Collins, Zach Martin missed the first game, right, 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:26.200 I thought the New Orleans game, they were there. Let 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:28.360 me check, I mean checking, I'm checking out. Check. Don't 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:30.960 think so, because they hadn't made the change at the 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:33.960 guard position yet. I don't know. Oh yeah, because yeah, 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:37.200 those five meaning Connor Williams in for Connor McGaugh. Right, 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.640 that's right, And now Connor Williams was available. That was 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:43.520 one game they had all of their guys available, right, 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.520 And I think maybe Connor Williams in that game played 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:51.039 a little fullback, I mean Connor, Yeah, Connor william played 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:53.600 a little fullback I think, and then they went back. 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:57.280 Actually he only played one play on offense in the 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:00.440 New Orleans game. Well, in that game, Terr and Steel 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:03.600 had COVID that game, and so it was the following 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:08.960 week at Washington Is where they had everybody. Everybody and 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:12.200 that was Connor Williams had thirteen snaps as a fullback 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:15.280 in that game, as Connor McGovern was the starter at 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.680 left guard. Right, So it looks good for those guys. 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:22.599 Also good news on the COVID front. Malik Hooker and 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:28.120 Treston Hill were both activated from reserve. COVID were in 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:34.560 practicing in the portion open that's regularly open to the media. Also, 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:44.919 Chiquon Hardy and Brandon Smith were also participating after being restirreed, restored, 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:51.600 restored to the practice squad, so they are off the 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:55.919 COVID nineteen lists. Noah Brown, remember him, the wide receiver 0:05:56.360 --> 0:06:00.240 out with a groin He was practicing too, so they 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:03.120 have moved him off of well, he was on IR 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:08.279 now he's on IR designated to return. So that opens 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.560 a twenty day window, twenty one day window along with 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:17.200 Jay with Vasher and Josh Ball who already had been 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:24.320 activated and because of Bernard Francis Bernard's injury. I believe 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:28.120 it was a groin injury. Uh, they've added DeVante Bond 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:32.000 to the practice squad, so they needed another linebacker to 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:35.800 kind of help him out through practice on the designated 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:40.320 to return rules. Because we talked about it last week 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:42.839 on Ball and who's the other one that they activated 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:50.480 or they well vashera and um, where was the other guy? 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:53.320 It was Josh Ball. Josh Josh Ball was the main 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:57.200 one I was talking about, right, and we surmise that 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:59.400 were three weeks left in the season, that would be 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:02.440 a three week window where that he could practice with 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.520 the team exactly. So my question is how does that 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:09.680 extend into the postseason or done? Part? I don't know that. 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:13.600 That's what I'm wondering, is with this he can continue practicing? 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:16.160 Well yeah, and because what they've done now with it 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:19.600 was Noah Brown. All right, so your three week window 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:21.560 obviously that takes you to the first week of the 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.640 playoffs there. Yeah, So I'm wondering if do they have 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:29.880 to then make a decision on Josh Ball after the 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:32.760 end of the regular season whether he can still practice 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:35.080 with the team in the postseason? Right, yeah, I don't 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:36.640 know if you But the thing you can do on 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.280 that too, you just the window expires and you can 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:42.000 start it anew or has he gone done or I 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:44.960 think you're just done? Is he done? Then you revert 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:48.320 to injured reserve. Okay, he does, and he cannot and 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:51.080 it cannot be exercised. Again, Let's say the Cowboys had 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:55.160 a need two weeks into the postseason, they he would 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:57.840 not be an option, I think, I think, Okay, I'm 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:00.440 thinking that's the way that one goes. So anyway, that's 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:04.520 your update. So Malie Cooker and Tristan Hill both back 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:09.920 in practice or at least the portion that the pool 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:13.440 reporter was able to watch. And just understand there was 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:17.280 a pool reporter. The media is not being allowed into 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:22.800 the building and various protocols going on. That came out 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:29.560 yesterday and NFL sent out a notice that for those 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:34.440 media members that want to cover playoff games, they have 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:38.760 to have proofs proof of their booster shot by j 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:43.840 January twelve, which is the Wednesday prior to the wild 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:47.840 card games in the postseason as it stands right now, 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:51.319 and I would assume it's going to continue into the postseason. 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:54.959 And the reason there is a pool reporter is across 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:59.440 the league, the NFL is not allowing reporters basically into 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:03.560 the facility these unless you work for the team, and 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:05.800 even if you work for the team something, you don't 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:09.880 have access. Yeah, and you don't have access unless you're 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:15.120 a pool reporter to the practice. So everybody understands. Mike 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:23.320 McCarthy's daily interview is now a WebEx interview and at 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:26.040 least they've got him on camera and it kind of 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:28.320 looks like he's talking to us and you could see 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:31.360 us too, so that helps out. And the same thing's 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:34.679 going to happen with the players and they're doing those 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:36.960 right now, and those are going on right now. Yes, 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:40.080 So anyway, that gives you an update of what sort 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:43.520 of is going on around here. And I would imagine 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:45.679 we have a heck of a lot to talk about, Yes, 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:47.760 we do. And of course one of those things that 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:52.200 we will talk about was the news that came down 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:55.880 last night about the loss of John Madden. And we'll 0:09:55.920 --> 0:10:00.600 spend some time here talking about John Madden and his 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:06.080 impact on Cowboys fans through the years here. Maybe we'll 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:10.080 do that in our second segment. Okay, do that time 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:13.920 to it. Yep. And of course passed away at the 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:17.800 age of eighty five, and the NFL made that announcement 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:23.680 around six o'clock last night, said he died unexpectedly yesterday morning, 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:27.200 but he had the family he had been. Um. I 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:30.240 don't know what exactly was, but for the last three 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:34.079 or four years, he's I think you've probably seen him 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:40.760 sort of disappear from a public person. I should say, 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:46.080 he wasn't doing interviews anymore. Um. And uh so he 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:50.480 had been battling something for for quite some time. Um. 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.000 It sounds like the family didn't expect the time to 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:55.959 come when it did. Yeah, yesterday morning, which is and 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:58.360 I know we're going to get into this, but to 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:01.720 set it up, he ends up passing away two days 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:07.000 after Fox Sports ninety minute documentary that showed on Christmas Day. 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:09.720 I guess three days. I guess, I said two days. 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:15.480 And they acted and that was the first thing I've 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:18.600 seen him do, because they did a really neat thing. 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:22.040 I haven't seen it yet, so for those of you 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:28.360 who have not seen it, watch it. It is really riveting, 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:32.000 really well done, one of the best I think I've 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:35.840 seen in quite some time. But one of the elements 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:41.440 they used was they allowed John to sit in front 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:44.760 of a big screen and watch it, so he got 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:48.520 to see the and you got to see his reaction 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:51.520 to some of the things they had on the and 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:54.840 that's how they used him in the In the video, 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:59.360 you know, they had old interviews, old video stuff like that, 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:03.360 but that's how they basically used him in the documentary, 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:07.080 him watching what other people were saying about him, and 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.920 he did make a few comments. All I'm telling you 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:12.800 is you gotta watch it. It was John Madden, This 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:17.360 is your Life, Yes basically. Yeah, all right, So we'll 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:21.800 talk more about Madden coming up here in the next segment. 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:27.840 You know, as I like to do, I like to 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:32.000 go behind enemy lines and listen to talk radio in 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:34.920 the opposing city each week. I've tuned in a little 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:38.160 bit to Phoenix Radio in the last couple of days. 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:41.679 And that is a team, the Arizona Cardinals that is 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:44.560 reeling right now. As everyone knows, they've lost three in 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:47.840 a row. They're three and five since starting the season 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:52.080 seven and zero. It's going to be a motivated team 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:56.120 coming in here on Sunday to play the Cowboys because 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:59.160 they've wrapped up a playoff spot. They do want to 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:02.520 win their division obviously, and they've got this game and 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:05.280 then they close against Seattle and they got the Rams 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:09.880 that are the division leaders right now. But more than anything, 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:12.800 they need to get to play in football better again. 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:16.199 And so that's that's their main motivation coming in here. 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:19.160 And by the way, uh, this will be of interest 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:22.480 to you. They're gonna go behind enemy lines because our 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:25.800 former teammate and I was wondering, sat in with us 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:30.520 many times on Mick Shots. Danny Sereku is now working 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:36.559 for the Arizona Cardinals kind of running their production department, 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.920 the video TV. She went their mid season yeah about 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:43.240 the earl. It was I thought it was about the 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:45.040 time they were seven, And oh, I was gonna blame 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:48.439 Danny for I think she started. I think she started. 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:50.640 All it was light at the beginning. All right, So 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:54.120 we'll give her. We're gonna we're gonna do a little 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.920 zoom things and she's going to interview me. How about that? 0:13:57.200 --> 0:14:00.680 All right? So uh, and she's doing well and loves it, 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:04.080 so good for her. Of course, she's from right here 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.640 in Dallas, and so I bet she can't wait to 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:09.679 come back here and another great universe in Missouri. That's 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:14.920 exactly right, that's right. And of course Kyler Murray, you know, 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:17.160 you look at the Cardinals and we'll get into more 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.600 of them in the next couple of days, but you 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:23.360 look at where their season kind of went sideways here 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:26.480 in the last couple of months. He got hurt, missed 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:29.400 three games. Colt McCoy came in for him and actually 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:33.040 was two and one as the starting quarterback, and so 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.400 it's kind of been since then. It's you know, they 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:40.200 lost DeAndre Hopkins to an injury, and so things have 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:42.760 gone haywire for them. But when he looked back to 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:46.720 last year, I think Kyler Murray continued his streak of 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:50.840 being undefeated at AT and T Stadium. Yep, and here 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:54.760 he comes again, yep. So it's well, it'll be even 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:59.760 a newer year come right, That's right, And so it's 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:03.000 time for the Cowboys to do to break that streak 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:06.360 that he started not only at Alan High School, but 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:10.080 at Oklahoma and then with the Cardinals. You know, he 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:14.320 didn't play all that well against himself against the Cowboys 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:18.880 last year. He was errant with some passes early, but 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:22.480 he had a big bomb to Christian Kirk and you 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:24.680 know that got the Cardinals going in that game, and 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:27.120 the Cardinals had their way with the Cowboys. But that 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:29.640 was a totally different Cowboys team of yeah, and a 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:34.080 totally different defense too, by the way, and dan Quinn 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:36.480 had done a wonderful job. And by the way, we 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:38.280 probably I don't know if we had a chance to 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:43.240 mention that yesterday that Jacksonville had contacted the Cowboys for 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:49.320 permission to interview Dan Quinn and Kellen Moore for their 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:52.320 vacant We did talk about the coaching job. I think 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:54.920 what we didn't talk about was all the other guys 0:15:54.960 --> 0:16:00.840 that they are either have interviewed or will interview. They're 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:05.160 interviewing six coordinators, so I gave you two. And then 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:11.200 Tampa Bay's offensive coordinator Byron Leftwich who played for Jacksonville. 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:16.560 Also Tampa Bay's defensive coordinator Todd Bowles. Again shows you 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:19.840 when you win a Super Bowl, everybody's trying to poach 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:23.680 guys that help you win that Super Bowl. Also former 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:29.320 Cowboys linebacker coach now the Colts defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus, 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:35.560 and also Nathaniel Hackett, the Packers offensive coordinator. Paul Hackett's son, 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:41.560 former Cowboy assistant offensive coordinator. He will be interviewing. And 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:47.000 then they's also been reported that they have shown interest 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:52.600 in Doug Peterson and Lyon's former head coach, Jim Caldwell. 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:56.040 And I understand. I think I saw on Twitter just 0:16:56.400 --> 0:17:00.760 here within the last hour that they are interviewing Peterson tomorrow. Tomorrow, 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:04.200 that's when his Have you heard anything about the timeline 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:10.760 on when they might interview more so, and any clarification 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:13.119 on does that need to happen prior to the end 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:14.840 of the regular It? Does that need to happen prior 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:16.679 to the end of the regular It can happen, Yes, 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:20.600 just because it opened yesterday to at grant permission, and 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:26.000 just listening to McCarthy, I got the idea that you know, 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:30.520 Friday Saturday once basically, as they say in the business, 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:33.720 the haze in the barn, that they would have time 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:38.080 to be able to do that and still take care 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:41.000 of whatever business they have with the Cowboys. But if 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:44.680 I'm looking at all those candidates, I don't know Byron 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:49.520 Leftwich's name comes out to me. Yeah, played there, people 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:53.879 know him. It's done a really good job in Tampa Bay. 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:56.720 Although I don't know that he could bring Tom Brady 0:17:56.800 --> 0:17:59.679 with him, but he's got a young quarterback that you 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:01.520 know you could work with, and you bring in a 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:05.120 good another good quarterback coach, and you've got an offensive 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:08.360 quordinator who played in the league that certainly would help 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:11.679 him out. And they should have a whole lot of 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:18.040 draft talent capital capital. That's what I was looking for, 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:23.920 and I would imagine still have a bunch of free 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.560 agency capital too to spend. They always seem to have 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:30.239 a lot of money, so um, you know, it's not 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:33.720 a bad situation when you think you have your franchise 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:41.920 quarterback and uh, there's an Ian Rappaport report. Uh, let's 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:48.600 see that. Just getting this from Chris Beam, it sounds 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:54.119 sounds like Quinn will interview after the regular season. He 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:57.400 turned down during the season. During an interview than these 0:18:57.440 --> 0:18:59.400 two weeks, he says he'll do it after the season 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:03.240 is over. And he does that mean after the season's 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:07.600 over or after the regular season's over? I bet at 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:11.880 him after the regular season is over, Okay, not during 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:17.880 the during the byeway. Yeah, yeah, very good. 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And to clarify 0:21:56.600 --> 0:22:00.280 on the Dan Quinn talk that we were and the 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:04.760 possibility that he would interview with Jacksonville. They've requested permission 0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:09.000 and he has indicated, according to reports, that he will 0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:12.560 not interview with them until the season is over, and 0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:15.920 that means the season is over, not the regular season 0:22:16.000 --> 0:22:19.639 is over. It is a two week window that leads 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:23.480 that gives teams that have a head coach vacancy here 0:22:24.040 --> 0:22:26.639 but prior to the start of the playoffs opportunity to 0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:29.359 talk with an assistant coach with other teams with permission. 0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:33.080 So the other thing to point out is just because 0:22:33.200 --> 0:22:38.240 you're getting interviewed doesn't mean you know you're dead set 0:22:38.320 --> 0:22:41.840 on getting the job. I can remember when Sean Payton 0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:45.640 was interviewed by Al Davis for the Raiders' head coaching 0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:49.360 job when he was with the Cowboys, and that would 0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:52.560 have been two thousand and five, I believe, and I 0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:56.040 think he just had a few misgivings of taking over 0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:59.840 the Raiders at that time, not knowing who the quarterback 0:23:00.200 --> 0:23:02.840 was going to be. And I remember he turned the 0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:05.520 job down and somebody in the national media said he 0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:10.160 just committed professional suicide because if you turn down Al Davis, 0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:13.520 you know who else is going to come after you. Well, 0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:16.120 the next year, the Saints came knocking at the door. 0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:19.320 And how that turn out. He's still there. I think, yes, 0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:22.320 I think so and uh. And then Mike Zimmer had 0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:24.920 an opportunity to become the head coach at the University 0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:28.080 of Nebraska and went through the Inner forty practice and 0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:32.760 US process, and he's he ended up turning that down 0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:36.359 and ended up being coming defensive coordinator and then a 0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:39.840 head coach, So you know what and and sometimes you know, 0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:42.480 from from Zim's standpoint, he just didn't want to go 0:23:42.600 --> 0:23:45.200 back and recruit, you know, go on the road and 0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:48.840 deal with eighteen year old kids and um, you know 0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:51.080 it's one thing to recruit free agent. That does not 0:23:51.200 --> 0:23:54.400 seem like something that he would enjoy, no, right, because 0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:57.480 it was he was at Washington State nineteen ninety four 0:23:57.600 --> 0:24:01.680 ninety five US when he came here. Zim was he 0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:05.760 at Washington or Weber State. He was at Weber for sure, 0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:08.680 with David Campbell, and that's out of campell O think 0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:11.159 I thought he might have been at just prior to 0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:14.440 coming here, But it was ninety four season. I believe 0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:20.280 ninety because he came as a defensive assistant and then 0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:23.560 he became the secondary coach after Campo was named the 0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:27.160 defensive coordinator after Butch Davis. He was in his thirties then, 0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:30.440 and it's a lot a little different recruiting college kids 0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:33.440 when you're thirty two instead of sixty two. So interesting 0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:36.080 note on Zim, as we're getting off track here, but 0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:39.120 he was a grad assistant at the University of Missouri 0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:43.160 when I was there covering the team for the Columbia Tribune. 0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:46.200 He's older than I had him then, and I got 0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:48.959 to and I got to know him then. And when 0:24:49.040 --> 0:24:51.399 he showed up here, he looked and I looked at him, going, 0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:54.320 no kidding, you're the guy, the young guy that you know. 0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:56.880 It was basically sort of my age at that time. 0:24:57.680 --> 0:24:59.520 He would still be sort of your age, and he 0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:04.159 probably still old at that time. He was all right, 0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:07.639 let's talk John Madden. There's so much that I mean, 0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:11.880 you could, as we talked about with the documentary on him, 0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:15.000 there's there's not enough time in the day to talk 0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:19.680 about all the John Madden stories. But let's you know, 0:25:20.119 --> 0:25:23.600 especially his impact as far as cowboys fans are concerned. 0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:26.879 You know, you look back at his career and he 0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:33.560 what people may not realize at such a young age. 0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:36.639 He became the head coach of the Oakland Raiders and 0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:40.800