1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue, 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman, the Pot Brothers 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: at Law. We're the world's number one podcast for everything cannabis. Hello, 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one, the world's number 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: one source for everything cannabis. My name is Blue, alongside 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: any of the world famous Pot Brothers at Law, Mark 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: and Craig Wasserman and Mr Joe Grande and all of them, 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: I mean all of them are down and out, so 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: it's just myself here Blue, and let me tell you 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: guys this. 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It's 20 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: Advanced Nutrients now let me say this too, though, I 21 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: got Freddie here with me, and Freddie, you've just been 22 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: kind of like floating around a lot lately, you know, Yes, 23 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: I almost feel like you're living on the show. You know, 24 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: it's funny because each time you're here, it's like something 25 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: for something new, and you keep popping back in and 26 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: it's kind of nice. Though. Man, you know, the team's 27 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: on injured reserve right now, so you know, sometimes you 28 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,199 Speaker 1: gotta call the backups the getting the game. Yeah, yeah, 29 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what. You know, the fun part 30 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: of it is is that you are so well spoken, 31 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: and I sit down with you and I always love 32 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: listening to some of your stories when you go into 33 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: some of your legal battles or just the different stories 34 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: that you have, and uh, it's it's been a lot 35 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: of fun having you on the show. But but today 36 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: we have something special, right and and it's important that 37 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: we we bring this up because we've got to make 38 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: sure that the industry, uh gets a word of what's 39 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: happening out there. We got hempcom coming up. Tell us 40 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: about Hampcon. Well, you know ham Con is uh when 41 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: is Hemcon? Well, this next Hemcon is going to be 42 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: on April fifteen, sixteen and seventeen in this year. It's 43 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: going to be in this lovely city of San Francisco, California, 44 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: and it's going to be at one of my favorite venues, 45 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: the Cow Palace. The Cow Palace. Now, have you been 46 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: there before? Obviously have yes, we have. We've done several 47 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: shows there and it's always been an incredible success there. 48 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: It's a great town, incredible hotels, food, It's a great 49 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: place overall San Francisco. Who doesn't like the Bay Area? 50 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: You know, I'll tell you what, um you know, I 51 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: I've actually you know, remember hem Con has been one 52 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: of the first, um, you know festivals or one of 53 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: the first you know, cannabis influenceable events. And is this 54 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: a B two B or B two C s shell? 55 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: So they're all all the events we've done at Hampcon 56 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: has always been UH brand to consumer yep, so uh 57 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: and going back, we were the original festival that had 58 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: back in them to fifteen days cannabis, cannabis consumption and 59 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: of course UH nonprofit uh cannabis not for profit doing 60 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: business as a mutual benefit organization. Yeah, I hear you. 61 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: And so I think we had like a good run 62 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: of about three years before anyone else began doing any 63 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: of these festivals. Three years and through that process, and 64 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: let me let's talk about some of the actual events. 65 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: You know, what do they look like? I mean, because 66 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: you know, I know this is pre COVID, right, because 67 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: COVID slowed everything down quite a bit. But before when 68 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: you were doing these festivals, how many people were showing 69 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: up to Hempco because I remember being pretty huge, right, Yeah, 70 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: there was two different worlds. There's two different worlds on 71 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: all cannabis. There's pre legalization to boast. Legalization is just 72 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: two different, two different environments. And it'll it'll always be 73 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: that way, and we'll always have these stories about you know, 74 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: the good old days or things that nature. But in 75 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: our two fifteen days, we would set out thirty people 76 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: across the three day event, thirty forty thousand people. So 77 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: you know it's coming up real quick here, you know, April, 78 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: and it's it's funny, it's the it's the fifteenth, sixteenth, 79 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: and seventeenth then and I look at it, you know 80 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: that's right around four. That's it. So this will be 81 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: our four show. Yeah, a little history about Hamcom we've 82 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: done twenty eight hemcoms across the state. We've had over 83 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: two d eighty thousand attendees across that platform. We've had 84 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,239 Speaker 1: over fifteen thousand vendors. And this will be our eleventh 85 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: year in hemcom. Wow, dude, that long. Huh it's California. 86 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: You're getting all that makes you? How old? Now? It 87 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: makes yeah, at least eleven years. Uh So so let 88 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: me ask you this, what what do you expect when 89 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: you get there? I mean, is this is this uh 90 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: you know, uh just you know, is it is it parade? 91 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: I mean, is it gonna be uh live events or 92 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: is it more convention style. It's gonna be a mix 93 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: of both. Um, we're bringing in Canada's talk one on 94 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: one to create a zoo environment and atmosphere. I expect 95 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: the elephants and the kangaroos come jumping out of the 96 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: circus acts and the flamethrowers eating flames. Um, you know, uh, 97 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: you know. Prior to the Passages A prop sixty four, 98 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: these events were pretty consistent and they were pretty pretty 99 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: wild and out, and we haven't had many B two 100 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: C events. We've seen a lot of B two B 101 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: events and uh high times really hasn't produced many events 102 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: in California. Essentially, you have the Emerald Cup and I 103 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: know the Kush Dock in southern California. But what we 104 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: are able to do is bring back that b to 105 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: see consumer environment, the culture, the music, the vibe, the energy, 106 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,679 Speaker 1: and just bring us back to that community, that communal smoke. 107 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: When you're you're wicher people, you're doing your thing, you're 108 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: talking your thing, You're seeing the growth and where things 109 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: are going. And gives a brand opportunity to to to 110 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: interact with their consumer directly, to see that consumer, you know, 111 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: try something and give their opinion right in there. It's amazing, 112 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: it's amazing fascination. You know, you know what you know 113 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: what I love is. You know it's different now, right, 114 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: like you said, there's pre you know, legalization, and then 115 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: there's now there's legalization and and and and the proper 116 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: that law would say that this isn't even legal yet. Right, 117 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: this is not legal. It's it's a band aid. It's 118 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: it's they're allowing you to to use it if you will, 119 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: but it's not really legal. But what I will, I'll 120 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: tell you. I remember I remember so many times where 121 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: you know, back in the day, people would be able 122 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: to just you know, fire up a joint and be 123 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: afraid to get pulled over, to be afraid to be 124 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: in front of you know it, to be afraid to 125 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: be in front of the police officer. And and then 126 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: now it's like, you know, you can almost just smoke 127 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: cannabis and and and it's it's not you're not gonna 128 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: go to jail, you know. And I mean if you're 129 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: driving or doing something stupid. But but I mean like 130 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: you can just like you can be standing if I'm 131 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: standing out back my my office and I'm smoking a 132 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: joint right now, there's not nothing no one can say 133 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: to me. Correct, Like it's like smoking a cigarette, correct, right, 134 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: And and and and it's funny. I have a younger daughter. 135 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: She's actually had a come to work day, and um, 136 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: you know, she always identifies and when she gives me 137 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: a look about this scent that she'll smell with an 138 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: hotels or whatever the case may be, we have an 139 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: unwritten conversation, but you'll look at me, she goes. You 140 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: smell that this new generation has become very very accustomed 141 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: to it has become a normalized but not always normalized 142 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: because no matter what happens everybody here when getting pulled over. 143 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: First thing to go with ship we got weed in 144 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: the car. So it's not it's still that bad. That's 145 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: a real thing. Right, So you know you get pulled over, 146 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be in the trunk, right, give me 147 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: here an attorney. Um, I don't know if technically it 148 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: has to be in a trunk. I just think it 149 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: has to be sealed, sealed, and it has to be 150 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: just like if you had a twelve pack of beer. Right, 151 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: So it's just like it's just like a twelve pack 152 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: of beer. Of the old trunk trick was our own 153 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: search and seizure issues. So you know, we don't do 154 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,239 Speaker 1: things that the drugs. It's a lot more probably causing 155 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: a less chance of them seeing something then having probably 156 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: call restriccher. Right right. Well, the fun part is is 157 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: that you know, while people are are going through that 158 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: process right now, you know, I think a lot of 159 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: people open up their their mouths and they don't understand, 160 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: you know, they're their rights or whatever, so they start 161 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: talking about the um, oh well, yeah, I I have 162 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: some here and I just smoked some or I just 163 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: did that, and then all of a sudden it's like, 164 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: oh you gotta d u. I. Well, there it is, guys. 165 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: It's Cannabis Talk one on one. 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Now listen, Freddie, while we sit 176 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: here and we kind of go back and we we 177 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: we laugh about you know, the the industry is changing, 178 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: you know, and so we look at the market before 179 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: legalization and you look at what's been um, you know, 180 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: I guess taught to the market, and then now how 181 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: the markets developing. You know, the the hem coon you 182 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: know they put you into obviously as they're they're they're 183 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:45,119 Speaker 1: legal as a partner with them, UM and as they're spokesman, 184 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: and and so where do you see it going, you know, 185 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: in the next few years, because you know, as I've 186 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: seen a lot of these events, we as we know 187 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: some of them aren't coming back, some of them are 188 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: going to continue to be there. Um, what is the 189 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: the kind of the rollout for for a hemcun So 190 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: I'll answer your question in the way you've phase that 191 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: first was what's the future? So the future is that 192 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: says that the legal license cannabis market, whether you go 193 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: into licensed cultivation or licensed retail or licensed event, has 194 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: become very, very costly and expensive. So at the early 195 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: phases of things, you had guys who in the cannabis 196 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: industry decided to throw cannabis events, like hit Man started 197 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: throwing Chaldice or dr K started throwing Pushdock, and so 198 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: you guys, you've got guys who never really threw events 199 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: starting to throw events, and a lot of those guys 200 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: have struggled because it's a very costly, arduous process. Where 201 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: I see the cannabis events moving towards is going to 202 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: be the larger scale promoters stepping in and and working 203 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: it out and through. They're all scared of the B 204 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: two C. So you see a lot of these bigger 205 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: promoters working with the B two C because it's a 206 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: little different. There's not really a sale. There's things of 207 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: that nature. But I see the cannabis events becoming part 208 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: of a larger scaled events like the Coachella and maybe 209 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: the Coachella green Grounds, or like we did Callie Vibes 210 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: with the Mercia and weed maps, those type of things 211 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: where you're going to eventually have the B two C, 212 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: just like you have a beer guarden beer or let's 213 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: go get a joint. Sure. So so let me ask 214 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: you right now, is it legal for uh, the sales 215 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: of liquor and cannabis at the same location, at the 216 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: same venue. It's not. So that's where it creates a 217 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: lot of complexities. So a lot of times, why is that? 218 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: What do you what do you think that that the 219 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: thought process was behind that law? I mean, that doesn't 220 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: make any sense that you could buy cigarettes at all 221 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 1: these damn you know these spots, and what do you 222 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: think that is? They don't want to mix it in in 223 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: with no what it is and what it's been is 224 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: when they drafted even proposition to fifteen, you had people 225 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: who have no understanding of cannabis drafting, legislation and legalization 226 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: and things that nature, and it's always been an uphill battle. 227 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: When they first created the events law, they said only 228 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 1: events will be held at county fairgrounds, and so Pomona 229 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: said no, thank you. Victorville said no thank you. Close 230 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: to Mason said no thank you. So essentially it was done. 231 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: It was done, and so we had to go back 232 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: and fight and create a new amendment that allows the 233 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: city to designate a venue to be allowed to conduct 234 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: sales of Canadas. So now the city can make that. 235 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: So you got so for if I come into a staten, 236 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: I gotta go first find a venue and say, hey, 237 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: would you like to do a B two C sales event? 238 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 1: And they go sure. Then I gotta go to city 239 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: council and presented to them. The city council has to 240 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: present something to the state which says we will authorize 241 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: them to do a B two C. And then you 242 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: have to have a promoter's license. Once you get a 243 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 1: promoter's license, and you've got to designate the venue in 244 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: the date sixty days in advance. And then I have 245 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: to identify each and every vendor that will be there 246 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: and then and then they have to have licensing obviously 247 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: and be able to to operate from there. Correct, So 248 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: a brand cannot automatically conduct a sale like the old 249 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: two fifteen days uh dish. Everything has to come through 250 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: a license distro, and then everything has to be sold 251 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: through a retail storefront license. So essentially we're moving the 252 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: retail storefront license to another location like a delivery right 253 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: and conducting those sales and all of that as for 254 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: the purpose of but that's legal. But that's that's the 255 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: legal model. So almost anybody can do it as long 256 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 1: as you have some kind of the city backing if 257 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: you will, the city back in correct that wants to 258 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: do it, and if any that wants to do wow, 259 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: I mean that sounds like a lot of works. So 260 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 1: in San Francisco, essentially at this location on the fifteen, 261 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: sixteenth and seventeen, where where is it all that, We're 262 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: gonna be at the Cow Palace. Yeah, so, and I'll 263 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: be there by the way, cannabis talking. No one will 264 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: be there. It's it's in stone as of today, guys. 265 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: So uh, fifteen, sixteen and seventeen, come check us out 266 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: at Cow Palace in San Francisco. It's gonna be a 267 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: lot of fun um and and it's Kempcon. But but 268 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: so Hempcon has to get cal Palace uh the first 269 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 1: of all, the city of San Francisco right to a 270 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: private Then they had to get the location approved correct. 271 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: Then they had to find a licensed vendor to to 272 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: sell or are they gonna be doing cells there or yells? 273 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: So you could be a consumer, you'll see a hunter 274 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: two hunter of your favorite brands. You get to see 275 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: the newest of the latest product gadgets, the newest uh Flower, 276 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: their newest drops um and also a big thing that's 277 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: gonna go down which hasn't happened at the hempcong Cup. 278 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: So we are going and we've had the cup for 279 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: many many years, a very prestigious award. We're bringing back 280 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: the cup. So we're gonna have a beautiful process for 281 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: brands who want to enter into the cup. While Flower 282 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: concentrates edibles and different can I can I be a judge? Absolutely? 283 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: I just get I don't want to be a judge. 284 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: You know, I'll be laid out halfway through. Did they 285 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: send you a package at at home? So what we do, 286 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: what we do is we're gonna have some guidelines going 287 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: in UM, but this is one of the most prestigious 288 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: cup because you actually went at the judges are judged 289 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: on site, and it's a beautiful process because you know 290 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people put a lot of time, work 291 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: and dedication, you know, into their products, similar to uh 292 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: stand from Cloud King. You know those guys, we do 293 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: a good job. Sure. So so you know going through 294 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: this UM, you know that that that the cup is 295 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: there a lot of a lot of red tape. I mean, 296 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: you know, I mean because now obviously you know these 297 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: guys that have been throwing events, it's kind of it's easier. 298 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: But for the guy that's looking the entrepreneur that's like, yeah, 299 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: I want to go through these are my own festival. 300 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: What do you think? I mean, what are they facing? 301 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: I mean, is it something that's you know, realistic, Because 302 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: when I look at I'd like to do on you know, 303 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: here in Anaheim, and I just think about I'm going 304 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: to do because of Disneyland, there's probably a good chance 305 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: that it's never gonna happen. But you know, I I 306 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: like Orange County. I want to throw it here in 307 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: Orange County coastal Mace don't probably let us do it right. 308 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: And so what we what we see is the city 309 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: that have already accepted cannabis, you know, distribution cultivates, retail 310 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: are more receptive to allowing these events. And what you 311 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: gotta do is you gotta find a really good attorney. 312 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: Yeah who knows this ship. What you gotta go to 313 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: city council to not six blame to them with the 314 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: events about but what what an event like this does 315 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: in a community? Sales hotels, brings a lot of tax 316 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: revenue and things of that nature. So you know, it's 317 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: critical that you present to the city why having these 318 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: events are important and what type of economic activity does 319 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: it bring into the city. Sure, now do you find that, um, 320 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: you know, they're gonna look at the bad side of 321 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: it and say, well, you know, we're gonna find this 322 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: or that, and they're gonna try and beat it up 323 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: to a thousand percent. What does that look like? When 324 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: what is their argument? Because you know, um, you know 325 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: again we're we're all pro cannabis, So you know, for 326 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: us it's kind of different. You know, we're gonna have 327 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: this this you know, uh, I guess one sided opinion 328 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: on a lot of things. You know, but there there's 329 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: got to be some kind of um you know what 330 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: what what? What are some of the things that they 331 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: would throw at us. So politics move slower than reality, 332 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: and legislation moves slower than that. So what has happened 333 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: is is that a lot of these cities have started 334 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: to embrace what goes on in cannabis and that there's 335 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: not mass shooting and people aren't dying all over the streets, 336 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: and people are not have needles of hair win in 337 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: there of cannabis in their arms laid out, do you 338 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: know what I mean? And so more and more, as 339 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: we inch closer and closer to normalization, the better chances 340 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: that you have with the city councilman. But you have 341 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: mayors who have been city councilman for the last twenty 342 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: thirty years who have voted out cannabis the entire time, 343 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: and for them the term benefit. You know, we look 344 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: at cities that have a venue and a city that's small, 345 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: because take a city like the city of aut Alanto, 346 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: those events draw tremendous economic activity. But for a city 347 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: like Long Beach that has a lot of hotels and 348 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: restaurants and things that nature bringing in in conventions, bringing 349 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: in a small cannabis event. Isn't that shiny for a 350 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: small city? It's everything. Well, you know, it's funny that 351 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: they don't necessarily have to be small. I mean they're 352 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: they're they're at the point now where you know, I mean, 353 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: we did a couple of small ones, right, and I 354 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: say small for us is like three to five thousand people. 355 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: You know, we we can you know, I think we 356 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: did uh an event here in Anaheim, which you know, 357 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: the owners of the venue were very afraid, you know, 358 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: and they're like, hey, what what do you guys deal? 359 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: We're like, where are we gonna throw this event here? 360 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: At your place? And he's like, well, we only have 361 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: like a three thousand people compassed. And I'm like good, yeah, 362 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: so we only got thirty days to promote this, you know. 363 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: So and he was like yeah, well you know, okay cool, 364 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: and and so we're staying there and and um, you know, 365 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: he's like, well, are you guys a sell weed? Like no, 366 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: we're not stilling any weed here. It's like, okay, cool, 367 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: are they gonna smoke weed? And I'm like probably, you know, 368 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: And it's like, well, um, you know, is there gonna 369 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: be like this? And I'm just like, look, man, people 370 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: are gonna I said, let me ask you this when 371 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg comes to perform here on or or the game, 372 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: or any of the rappers that you have here, because 373 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: he has a lot of different rappers at his place. 374 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: And I'm like, dude, I've seen all your lineups. I said, 375 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: do people smoke weed when they're here? He's like, hell yeah, 376 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: they do this as soon as they go out stage. 377 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: They just fire that joy right up and go. And 378 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, cool, well that's what's gonna happen here too. 379 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: I said. It's just gonna be different, though, I said, 380 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: And he's like, all right, cool, and uh, you know 381 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: we we We ended up doing it with Nate Diaz, 382 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: you know, after his fight, you know, yeah, yeah, and 383 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: it was like we rushed it. There's like thirty days 384 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: they promoted. It was like three thousand people there, and 385 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: they're disc going the guys like will you please come 386 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: back and do this more often? And this? And now 387 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, and he's like, but you know, how 388 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: does that work with my license? I'm like, dd, I'm 389 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: not an attorney, you know what I mean. Like, I'm 390 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: the promoter, you know, I'll promote it, but you gotta 391 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta talk to the details. These events 392 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: have been lifelines for for brands. Most of the brands 393 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: started at a ten by ten out of handcun you 394 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: know your brass not blows your flavor X. All these 395 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: guys started somewhere. The problem is is a lot of 396 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: these new companies started in legalization. And you know, you 397 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: can't advertise on billboards, and you can't advertise on the 398 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 1: super Bowl, and you can't do traditional market you know, 399 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: e think outside the Canada top one when you get 400 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: a pass for everything. But a lot of these guys 401 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: don't know where to put their marketing dollars and so 402 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: their consumers aren't really getting to them. And so you 403 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: have a beautiful opportunity at these events to engage with 404 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: the consumer, to to show them what you got and 405 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: to lay it out on the line. And the beautiful 406 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: thing about cannabis, it's hard to fool anybody. You know, 407 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: I've said this once, I'll say again. You can't suffer 408 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: these people. So when you're at these shows, you're putting 409 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: your best foot forward and and they're gonna see it. 410 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: Smell of patient them, try it and then you got 411 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: a customer flight. Yeah, well, guys, it's Cannabis Talking one alone. 412 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 1: When we come back more with HAMCN and Freddie. Thank 413 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 1: you so much for being here. We'll be right back 414 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: after this break. We'll be right back with Cannabis Talk 415 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: one oh one. 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I mean, and I can't say that 433 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: everybody has this or everybody has that, but but throwing 434 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: festivals is definitely pretty unique, you know, and being a 435 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: part of that. How long have you been a part 436 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: of the hemcun ah from its day one? So were 437 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 1: you the legal counsel from it or with the legal 438 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,239 Speaker 1: counsel from it or with it? I guess for it 439 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: for a decade um. And then I helped produce some 440 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: of them because I have a you know, an event's 441 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: background going back to the early rave days. And now 442 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: I heard about that. Why don't you tell us about 443 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: some of those? Yeah, so we go back all the 444 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: way to NASA days, taking it into the undergrounds and 445 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: Brooklyn under the bridges with a lot of cool stuff, 446 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: and they're still I might need one of those two 447 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: over there, and they're watching these guys do neck neck 448 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: break and I'm like, damn, here we go that standing 449 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: the man over there, they called him a neck breaker. 450 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: You're gonna have fun with stand if he is he comingever, 451 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna have black Oh yeah, you're in trouble, I think. So, man, 452 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: that's coming up. So so listen. So so again, how 453 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: how far back do you go? I mean, you know, 454 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: it's just something that you've been you've been doing for 455 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: you know, quite some time. Or Yeah, I started producing 456 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: events coming out of high school. I couldn't even get 457 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: into my own events because there were twenty one and 458 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: over and I started producing reggae early said, I couldn't 459 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: even get into my events to sneak myself in. You 460 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 1: to sneak yourself in the back door, back door through 461 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: the alley. So so, so I mean, I mean, did 462 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: you have a passion for that? Because if I'm not mistaken, 463 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: you know you backed up a lot of artists. You've 464 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: had history with many different artists throughout the years as 465 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: far as entertainment and as far as legal and entertainment 466 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: to so I know you've done some of that. Give 467 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: us some kind of a background on that, correct, So, um, 468 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: I would say thirty years in event production and planning 469 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: and presentation on all different scales and all different genres 470 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: of music. And then as an attorney, I represented a 471 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 1: lot of festival producers and promoters such as Insomniac and 472 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: Fresh and different different cats. I currently represent Commercia and 473 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 1: that whole platform of event producers and um, and then 474 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: I represent a lot of venues, so it became a 475 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: niche so if you needed to do a concert or 476 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: if you need a venue, and then we would represent 477 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: everybody from all stages of that. So so is this 478 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: is this your your? I mean, when you went to 479 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: to to college and you want to to get become 480 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: an attorney, did you say you know I'm gonna represent 481 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: artist or is it something I thought it was going 482 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: to be a music attorney and anywhere. For along time, 483 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: I was, but I wouldn't call it a profession. I 484 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: called it a passion because when I came out of 485 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: law school, we hit a recession, and um, they didn't 486 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: have the type of jobs that I wanted and I 487 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: had tons of entertainment and music experience, except big law 488 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: firms you know, weren't hiring at that point. And so 489 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 1: what I was doing is I would start, you know, 490 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: my own office, and I would get an artist and 491 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: I'd work them up and I build them up, and 492 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: once they reach a certain level, their agent or manager goes, well, 493 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: you can't beat this law firm anymore, you know what 494 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: I mean, You've got to step out of it. And 495 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: so it was always a tough thing. But what they 496 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: always had was money to pay me when they got 497 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: busted and arrested. Was like the contracts for free. They 498 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: found the money, They found the money, They found the 499 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: money of the time. And that's really how I how 500 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: I landed into criminal defense work is you know, somehow 501 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: they find the money when you get arrested. Well, it's 502 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: it's it's it's funny. You know, you have your your 503 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: life is now a jeopardy, and you know you're like, oh, 504 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: you're facing X, Y and Z, you know, and if 505 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, I don't know if you even a 506 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: lot to talk about this. Ye, you're doing some pretty 507 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: serious cases right now. Right yeah, I'll be starting to 508 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: murder trial March. First. Did they find the money? They did? 509 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: They had to get me out of retirement all that. 510 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: But you know, because I had I had gone a 511 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: year have to go. I won five mund trials in 512 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: one year, and I one topical of defense tworney for 513 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: the state, State and UM And that's when I was 514 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: doing that hardcore, and so when this case came upon, 515 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: I only took it because I really believed from case 516 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: and I think I can win it. And so it's 517 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: it's nice to you know, put the Superman cape back 518 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: on and hit the court. So it makes me feel good. 519 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 1: You know. It's funny because that first year, like, dude, 520 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to take this case on. You know. 521 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: I remember I remember saying, and I'm like, what you 522 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: got a case? You know? And then I was like, 523 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm like, you know, you know what's 524 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: going on, you know in criminal law, I mean in 525 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: the way I practice laws. If I can't give you 526 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: when I can't do it. And so at the time 527 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: that these cases were coming up, I wasn't one coming 528 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: on law, was doing things, you know, screwing out with 529 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: guys like you come on, I'm legit. But this case, 530 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: this case, uh, piqued my interest and so I've been 531 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: given it a hundred and ten percent. It's really nice 532 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: that I could really focus in on it. Yeah, you know, 533 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: I'll tell you. You know, it's it's nice to have. 534 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: You know, I'm surrounded by attorneys. You know, I don't 535 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: know what it is, but it's just like, you know, 536 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: you guys flocked to me. I'm serious, law, I've got you. 537 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: I've got Dave Bramfit, I got Dave This, I got 538 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: Dave Barrella. I mean, there's just like I feel like 539 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: I have like, uh I seriously, I've got I would 540 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: say like nine nine literally nine attorneys that I talked 541 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: to on every two weeks, you know what I mean. 542 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: And it's just like I don't know where they keep 543 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: coming from. It's like hey Mike, Hey, Dave, Hey, Freddy, Hey, Mark, Hey, 544 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: Craig hey. It's just I mean, and there you guys 545 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: are everywhere around. You know. I think it's because you 546 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: guys feed off me. You guys get some you guys 547 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: get work off me or some ship, you know, because 548 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: I you know, it's like and I didn't always see that. 549 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: I was just like someone was like, you know, I 550 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: forgot where we're apping. They made it, they made a 551 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 1: joke that I dude, there's you know, He's like, look 552 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: around you right now. I'm like what I'm like going around? 553 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: He's like, did you got like seven right attorneys next 554 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: to you right now? You're the only one that's not 555 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: an attorney. And then because a lot of people think 556 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: I'm an attorney too, because I have all these attorneys 557 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: around us, and it's just like, you know, I don't 558 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: know what it is. You guys just talk. You would 559 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: have made a great attorney, by the way. I have 560 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: made a fantastically well I think so. I think I 561 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: could have fought a lot of crooked Yeah you can 562 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: lie well, yes, yes, I lie well, I crook. That's 563 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: that's That's exactly why I'm not an attorney. And you are. 564 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: So listen Freddie, uh you know going through that, tell 565 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: me tell me real quick man, Win's ham con Um. 566 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: You know what's going on? Going to San Francisco. Yeah, 567 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna crush it. Cal Palace April fifteen, sixteen and seventeen, 568 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: three days before four twenty weekend. I know for sure 569 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: Cannabis talk is coming, the whole social is coming, the 570 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: whole team is coming, um, and we're going to rally 571 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: the troops and bring back Camp Conto with Suprime. You know, 572 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 1: I'm very excited to see. I think right now there's 573 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: probably fifty or so boots out There's probably gonna be 574 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: a hundred fifty boosts out there by the time it's done, right, correct, 575 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,239 Speaker 1: and so you know what kind of expectants you know, 576 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: how many people are gonna see out there at m 577 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 1: corn I mean, and and what should people expect one 578 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: last time. I think we're gonna sell out at about 579 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: the pen thousand mark. But I think that's a good 580 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: amount of people for an event like this. Um, expect 581 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: some of the biggest and best brands that you've always loved, 582 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: and then expect a bunch of new brands coming in, 583 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 1: a bunch of new technology and tons of entertainment. Well, 584 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: there it is, guys, Freddie, thank you so much for 585 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: being here. Um, you know, like you said on tomorrow show, 586 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: we've got to stand the man. Maybe we're gonna stick 587 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: around for that. I'd love to go. There it is, guys, 588 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: It's Cannabis Talk one on one. And remember this, if 589 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: no one else loves you, we do. 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