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Speaker 3: The steaks are real effective Preparation starts with fitness, but

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Speaker 3: We have Scott van der Slut, who's been here you're

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Speaker 2: Full back, full back. The good guys.

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Speaker 1: what you think it is right, right, I.

444
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Speaker 6: Only take it when we out hunt. It's the only

445
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Speaker 6: time because I have I have no sleep problems. Like

446
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Speaker 6: at home, I fall asleep really fast, like in seconds.

447
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Speaker 6: I feel like that's and I sleep through the night,

448
00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,720
Speaker 6: wake up, I feel energized. But when we out hunt,

449
00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,000
Speaker 6: whether it's like I'm excited to be there, I'm like

450
00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:29,199
Speaker 6: thinking about the hunt constantly, and you're usually like on

451
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Speaker 6: mentally and physically up until like the second you're getting

452
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Speaker 6: ready to go to bed. And I'll take it when

453
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Speaker 6: we out hunt because it just like shuts me down instantly,

454
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Speaker 6: like artificially. I guess, yeah, And I don't even know.

455
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Speaker 6: I've never actually, I guess hunted other than our first

456
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Speaker 6: year without it, so I don't know if it's actually

457
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Speaker 6: helping anything. But that's the only time I take it,

458
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Speaker 6: and it will like really shut me down fast.

459
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Speaker 1: And I think that's like that would be a good

460
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Speaker 1: use case, you know, having it, having it available if

461
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Speaker 1: you think you need it and you feel like you're

462
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Speaker 1: not gonna be able to sleep, well, it's also good

463
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Speaker 1: if you're time zones a bunch, you know, it can

464
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Speaker 1: kind of you can kind of create that natural sleep

465
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Speaker 1: cycle or let that natural rise of melatonin artificially, like

466
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Speaker 1: if you're traveling internationally whatever. So there's definitely uses for it,

467
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Speaker 1: and some people use it and have great results, but like,

468
00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,119
Speaker 1: you know, stay away from all the stuff out there.

469
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Speaker 1: It's definitely not the first thing you should address.

470
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Speaker 3: Right, No, we were talking about this twenty four hour

471
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Speaker 3: We do a couple of twenty four hour events throughout

472
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Speaker 3: the year. Two Scott usually films one and then participates

473
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Speaker 3: in the other.

474
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Speaker 2: And so are you are you rowing?

475
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, so you know that's that that's a

476
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Speaker 3: whole probably twenty four our whole sleep cycle, miss.

477
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

478
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Speaker 5: And so that's tough to it takes a couple of

479
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Speaker 5: days to kind of rebound.

480
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Speaker 1: From the Oh yeah, I mean you're you're getting deep

481
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Speaker 1: into it and you're and you're like you're layering on

482
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Speaker 1: performance with it, so you're.

483
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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it's hard to fall asleep on those, you know.

484
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Speaker 3: And it is the same, but it's not the same

485
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Speaker 3: what Scott's talking about. Like when you are out that

486
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Speaker 3: country or doing whatever, like your mind is going all

487
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,359
Speaker 3: all day, you are thinking about what you got to

488
00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,639
Speaker 3: do the next day, and so you know, we always

489
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Speaker 3: tell guys to be in the best shape going out,

490
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Speaker 3: because once you get out there, there's so many factors

491
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Speaker 3: you can't control. And so, you know, what are all

492
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,920
Speaker 3: the things that we can do before that you're saying,

493
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Speaker 3: you know, get in a good rhythm, you know, the temperature,

494
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Speaker 3: those types of things, and so because once you get

495
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Speaker 3: out there, you just can't rely on getting good sleep.

496
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Speaker 1: And the healthier you are too, like from a fitness level,

497
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Speaker 1: weight weight management, all that stuff, like you're going to

498
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Speaker 1: just be sleeping better in general. Right, So I think

499
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Speaker 1: you know that sets you up for more success as

500
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Speaker 1: you get out there, because it's going to be you know,

501
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Speaker 1: it's not gonna be ideal.

502
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

503
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like you got to you got to

504
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Speaker 2: do your best to prep for it.

505
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you know.

506
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Speaker 3: The there's if there's one thing that affects me, like

507
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Speaker 3: recovery wise, it's sleep. You know, Like if I don't

508
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Speaker 3: get good sleep for multiple days, I'm either getting sick,

509
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 3: which I am now, or I'm getting injured.

510
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Speaker 2: What was your sleep like back like when you're competing.

511
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Speaker 3: Oh, man, I would go to sleep eight probably nine o'clockish,

512
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 3: and I would just wake up whenever my body would

513
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Speaker 3: get up like I wouldn't set an alarm. I wasn't

514
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Speaker 3: one of those. It's like, oh I got to get

515
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 3: up at six before the enemy or five before me

516
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Speaker 3: or whatever. I was just like no, because I mean.

517
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Speaker 1: I mean you are you are also the guy that

518
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Speaker 1: would go route nine pansy exactly what.

519
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Speaker 6: You wake up then if you didn't set an alarm.

520
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Speaker 5: No, it'd be like eight sometimes nine.

521
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, your volume.

522
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Speaker 5: Was like is huge.

523
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Speaker 2: I was curious, do you remember, like during the games

524
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Speaker 2: what your sleep is like? Were you able to sleep?

525
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Speaker 2: Because I feel like it was one where or the other.

526
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Speaker 5: One at the games.

527
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Speaker 3: Man, You're just your nerves are shot the whole time,

528
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 3: so you're just basically you know, yeah, no, heck no.

529
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Speaker 3: My brain was always going thinking about what was next,

530
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Speaker 3: what we were doing.

531
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Speaker 2: So it was more like a mental like you were.

532
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Speaker 5: Like, yeah, yeah, physically, yeah, of course.

533
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Speaker 1: Sometimes when it's like that level of exertion, you also

534
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Speaker 1: don't sleep well.

535
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

536
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Speaker 3: No, I did not sleep well ever really at the

537
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Speaker 3: games or even a couple of weeks leading up to it.

538
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Speaker 3: But I mean the more, you know, the more I

539
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 3: got into it and the more I got used to

540
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Speaker 3: it over the years, Like when I first started competing,

541
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Speaker 3: you know, probably a month, month and a half out,

542
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Speaker 3: I'd start getting super nervous, and then like two or

543
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Speaker 3: three years in, I would be like, you know, two

544
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Speaker 3: weeks out, I'd start getting nervous and getting bad sleep,

545
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Speaker 3: and then towards the end it was like up until

546
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Speaker 3: the last night.

547
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Speaker 1: I'm curious, like if you went like everything you've learned

548
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 1: since then, like if you went back, what protocols, like,

549
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 1: what would you change, Like from recovery perspective.

550
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Speaker 5: Oh man, I mean be nice to have a sana

551
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 5: and a cold plunge. I think doing.

552
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Speaker 3: More rehabish prehabish type exercises, just getting right into you know,

553
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 3: doing met coons and doing whatever. Yeah, I mean there's

554
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Speaker 3: a lot of things. But also I don't think if

555
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Speaker 3: you change all that stuff.

556
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Speaker 5: Then yeah, you know, we wouldn't be here today. You know,

557
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 5: like you just got to learn some of that stuff

558
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Speaker 5: kind of on your own.

559
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Speaker 2: And it was a different time.

560
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Speaker 3: It was different time. Yeah, yeah, way different time. Yeah,

561
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Speaker 3: you didn't have all this stuff readily avail.

562
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Speaker 2: But you know like how it's like it's like everywhere

563
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Speaker 2: you go a.

564
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Speaker 3: Row it was the only like machine you had to

565
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Speaker 3: you know, now, we got all these other machines, so

566
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 3: you can do all this other stuff.

567
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Speaker 6: So well, even then, it wasn't common practice to sauna

568
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 6: and cold plut No. Heck no, like you saying back

569
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Speaker 6: in twenty fifteen, that was you.

570
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Speaker 2: Were probably hard to find.

571
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you were an early adapter.

572
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was super hard to find. But those those

573
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Speaker 1: landmark studies came out around that time. I think they

574
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Speaker 1: were twenty twenty fifteen, those forty year long, you know,

575
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 1: studies from from Europe in the long some of the

576
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Speaker 1: longevity statisticals.

577
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Speaker 5: Like some of the what are some of the statistics?

578
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean so what's cool is like, you know,

579
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Speaker 1: it's so it's so ingrained in their culture. Yeah, like

580
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Speaker 1: you know, I spent a week there, and but there's

581
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Speaker 1: some things about the studies.

582
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Speaker 2: I think we mess up here in the States.

583
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Speaker 1: But you know, just people who are doing sauna consistently

584
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Speaker 1: for seven times a week, forty percent drop and all

585
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 1: cause mortality. So you think about things like heart disease,

586
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 1: cancer essentially just a reduction in disease across the board.

587
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: You know, some some really good mental health outcome stuff

588
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Speaker 1: like twenty five percent reduction depression, chances of depression in

589
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,239
Speaker 1: order to neurodegenera diseases were down twenty five percent, like

590
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: Alzheimer's dementia. So like all the things you're concerned about

591
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: with aging, Yeah, sauna helps.

592
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 6: And how much time when you say four to seven

593
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Speaker 6: times a week, how much time are they exposed?

594
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the minimums. You know, Like I said, there's

595
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,239
Speaker 1: not that many studies. I think people try to get

596
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: super granular with this and it's just something we need

597
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 1: more time on. But sauna's dose dependent, and so what

598
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: that means is just the more you do it, the

599
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Speaker 1: better it is.

600
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Speaker 2: So the people who did.

601
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Speaker 1: One time a week had of worse outcomes, and the

602
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: people did two, they did three. And so the goal

603
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Speaker 1: is four to seven times a week at least one

604
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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy six degrees for twenty minutes, which isn't

605
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 1: that's not too hard to do. And ideally the other

606
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: thing with that is it's better if you're going to

607
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Speaker 1: do four times a week doing it every other day

608
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,239
Speaker 1: rather than four times in a row because a lot

609
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Speaker 1: of the benefits they think come from these heat shock

610
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Speaker 1: proteins they get released from the heat, like they did

611
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: these studies on worms and essentially they apply, you know,

612
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 1: put a bunch of heat on these wor these heat

613
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 1: shock proteins are released and they live almost twice as long.

614
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: So that kind of got the ball rolling with the

615
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 1: longevity stuff. But you the heat shock proteins last about

616
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Speaker 1: twenty four hours, so you want those levels high consistently.

617
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Speaker 1: So if you spread your if you can only do

618
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: every other day, that's better than lumping your four days together.

619
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Speaker 1: So it's kind of like the more the better, and

620
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: it's all like net positive. The only negative is like

621
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Speaker 1: you know, for for guys, the reason our desticles are

622
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Speaker 1: outside of our body is to keep them cool. Yes,

623
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Speaker 1: and so so like you know, my wife just got pregnant.

624
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Speaker 1: We've been to this whole last last week, this whole

625
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: IBF journey. But you know, i'd have to put an

626
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Speaker 1: ice pack on my ball. So when I'd go into

627
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Speaker 1: Sawa and it's crazy the numbers, dude, it changed it

628
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Speaker 1: significantly from doing that. And so but the cool thing

629
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Speaker 1: is like it's it's it's one of those things that's enjoyable.

630
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,959
Speaker 1: It helps a variety of things, it's easy to do,

631
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: and it's pretty much no negative outcomes from it other

632
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: than that, like which is, you know, it's more on

633
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: the sperm count side. So it's not that big a

634
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 1: deal if you're not trying to actually have kids. But yeah,

635
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a rare thing that's easy to do.

636
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: I mean, sleeping song I always put together. It's easy

637
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: to do. It's it's really good for you. It's not difficult.

638
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: It's easy to be consistent with. Like eating good is hard, difficult, challenging,

639
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: working out is hard. You know, for most people, those

640
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: two things are like low hanging fruit.

641
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Speaker 6: Now where does the sleep tape come in?

642
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean so yeah, especially for guys. You know,

643
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Speaker 2: I think.

644
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Speaker 1: The evolution of the science on airways has changed quite

645
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Speaker 1: a bit. The most common ailments from sleep come from

646
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Speaker 1: breathing issues, Like you know, your airway collapses, you snore,

647
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: You're just not having efficient, efficient oxygen oxygen flow like

648
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: to the brain and so like with you know, app

649
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: sleep happening is probably one of the most underdiagnosed things

650
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: out there. Snoring is a big symptom of that. It's

651
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 1: all that means is essentially your body is not getting

652
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: a constant flow of oxygen, and so what can we

653
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 1: do to create a better air flow? Environment. So that's

654
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: what the natal strips. The nail strips are the easy

655
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: for people. We we like redesigned nail strips from top

656
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Speaker 1: to the bottom.

657
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Speaker 2: Breathe right.

658
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: It's been around forever, so we got patents. Took us

659
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: eighteen months to redesign these things. But they're great because

660
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Speaker 1: the super low risk opens up your nose. And you

661
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Speaker 1: know about three quarters of the population have a debate

662
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: adccept them. And so you just don't have efficient airflow

663
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: through one side of your nose. And so if you

664
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: can open that up a little bit, allow less resistance

665
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: to your nose, a lot of times, you breathe better,

666
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 1: you don't snore or consistent oxygen, and you sleep a

667
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: lot better. Like that's one of the biggest issues with sleep,

668
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: especially with guys. And the heavy you are, the bigger

669
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: you are, the bigger your neck, the higher chances of

670
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: sleep apnea. So I had mild sleep apniet. Like as

671
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: I went down this path, I had no idea that

672
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: I had it. I started taping my mouth.

673
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 3: I was about to say, okay, so there's different open

674
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 3: nail strips, yeah, and then tape your mouth shut the

675
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 3: world I can get behind the natal strip.

676
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, taping my mouth shut is the one that I'm like,

677
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 5: I don't know if you can do that.

678
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: Well, it's not that crazy. I mean it's it's definitely

679
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: seems crazy.

680
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 5: It's weird, but it's not. Yeah, you're not like when

681
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 5: I say this, it's.

682
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: Literally just like yeah, little one vertical. We have big

683
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 1: ones too, But it's not. It's the science of it's

684
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: not that crazy, but the thought of it is everyone

685
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: thinks that. Everyone's like, this is freaking me out. But

686
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: the goals is to breathe through your nose. If you

687
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: think about like animals, every single animal, think about it.

688
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: A deer when they're sprinting, they're never bringing out of

689
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 1: their mouth. Like our noses are built to breathe, Like

690
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: that's what they're designed for, and so it's the most

691
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: efficient way to breathe. A lot of things happen we

692
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: breathe through our nose, like we warm the air, we create,

693
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: nitric oxide goes into your lungs, or relax with your cardiovasco system.

694
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 1: Makes you more efficient, and that's that's that's the way.

695
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 2: You utilize auction the best.

696
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 1: Because the other thing that happens when you breathe out

697
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: of your mouth all the time, which plays a huge

698
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: role in endurance of performance is you're getting rid of

699
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: all the CO two, which is good, Like when you're

700
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: in the middle of a workout, like you want to

701
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: get rid of that CO two, But in the night,

702
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: you actually want your body to get tolerant to that

703
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: CO two. You want to have low levels. You don't

704
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: want to constantly be at zero CO two in your

705
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: system because that they call it CO two tolerance dictates

706
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: like your thirst to So when you get in an environment,

707
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: a stressful workout environment, and your CO two levels start

708
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: to go up, if your body's not trained to be

709
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: used to that CO two, you're gonna have more of

710
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: a stress response, You're gonna have more.

711
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: With us to breathe.

712
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: Overbreaths start like hyperventilating, and so part of it is

713
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: just training yourself to be used to handling stress. And

714
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people over breathe even walking around,

715
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: Like if you're not doing high level of exertion, you

716
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: should be breathing out of your nose even if you're

717
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: doing like Zone two all that stuff. And so the

718
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,239
Speaker 1: tape is just an easy way to make sure you're

719
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: breathing through your nose. Obviously we're on constant and we're sleeping,

720
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: and so it's a quick fix. And so I always

721
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: tell people, you know, there's certain things that people over

722
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: a certain BMI, but everyone should get a sleep study done.

723
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: There's at home sleep studies like two hundred bucks. They're

724
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: super easy because if you have a sleep app mean,

725
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: like the long term outcomes of that are not good,

726
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: especially for your brain, brain in your heart, Like you're

727
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: kind of destroying your brain in your heart.

728
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: So make sure you're on something serious going on. And

729
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: then you know, if.

730
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: You're trying to go from ninety percent to one hundred,

731
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: start playing around with it made a significant difference for

732
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: me kind of how it all started. It was just

733
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: you know, trout and air on my side and learning

734
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: more about it. That was like seven years ago, and

735
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: that's kind of a bolt into all this different stuff.

736
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: But we don't try to like push push it or anything.

737
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: But it's crazy the impact and it's actually crazy, you know,

738
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: with some high level athletes we work with, like CrossFit

739
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: high Rocks athletes that are you know, we talk to

740
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: them about their breathing and their sleep and we send

741
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: them products.

742
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: And and in my head. I'm like, this person's dialed in,

743
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 2: like they're doing all.

744
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: The right things consistent, like they're they're maxing out the performance,

745
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: and you don't think they're going to get that big

746
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: of an outcome or increase in performance or sleep performance,

747
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, like their numbers are off

748
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: the charts. And I think the piece that's overlooked is

749
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: the psychological side. And so when you're breathing out of

750
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: your nose, like our breath is a direct link to

751
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: our nervous system, same with when you're out there like hunting,

752
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: whatever you're doing. And so when your breath is controlled,

753
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: when you have longer exhales than your inhales, you're relaxing

754
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: your nervous system. And when you're going to sleep, you

755
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: really want to relax more than any other time in

756
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: the day. And so I think what happens is we

757
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: all know, you know, breath work has become super popular.

758
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: It's a little overwhelming your breathork like what are we

759
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: about to do? Like is there gonna be a gong

760
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 2: and like.

761
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: Sitney Circle and everyone's kind of like, I don't want

762
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: to do that, and most people don't. I was somebody

763
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: like that but I think what the mouth tape does

764
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: is it forces you. It backs you into breath work.

765
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: It forces you to slow down your breath. You have

766
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: to relax, you start breathing slower, and you essentially get

767
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: the benefits from breath work without having to intentionally do

768
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: it right. And people don't actually utilize their breath other

769
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: than that time, and so you have these high level

770
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: athletes that are doing all the right things, but from

771
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: the psychological side, they've never used their breath to control

772
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: the nervous system. So they'll become more relaxed than they

773
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: ever have, and I think that's why it works so well.

774
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: And then you reduce the resistance with the nail strip

775
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: and you're in a really good environment for sleeping. So

776
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: it's not that crazy of an idea. It's just like

777
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: you tape on your mouth is super weird.

778
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: The control thing, and it's exactly you know, it's be

779
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 3: super handy and shooting too probably or situations your an

780
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 3: animal comes out and your nervous system is and you're

781
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 3: hearing all these different inputs to be able to control that.

782
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 3: It's just another layer of something that you can control.

783
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: They've done some sleep studies too, with competitive shooting. Yeah,

784
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: just I mean it's exactly what you think would happen.

785
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: Is is like obviously stability, decision making, like everything it

786
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: goes down, like the direct correlation between hours of sleep.

787
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,479
Speaker 1: The more sleep to bribe you are, the worse your

788
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: accuracy gets. But I think what's like what's hard to

789
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: sleep is people think I'll be, Okay, I can out

790
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: tough it, and like you can out tough like the

791
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: feeling of being tired. Sure, like you can be like

792
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna work out, but you can't out

793
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: tough the things like reaction time, decision making, you know,

794
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: emotional stability, injury, yeah, yeah, all the accuracy like all that, Yeah,

795
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,239
Speaker 1: you can't control that stuff. And I think injury too.

796
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: It's like it's not just your muscles are recovering, it's

797
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: your brain's ability to react to like environment, space, like

798
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: your spatial awareness, appropriate reception, and so like you can

799
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: out tough that you can be the most badass dude

800
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: on the planet, but your brain isn't functioning how it

801
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: should be. So I think people think that like they

802
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: can push through, but it just doesn't work.

803
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 5: No.

804
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 3: I mean I've said from the beginning that sleep is

805
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 3: probably like the one thing non negotiable for me when

806
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 3: it comes to recovery was sleep, you know, and that

807
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 3: was the hardest part was you.

808
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: Were ahead of the curb too though, like like you

809
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: were you were committed to sleep.

810
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, before it was like a huge thing. Yeah.

811
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 3: No, I think sleep was like the main thing that

812
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 3: kept me healthy through all those years. Yeah, and honestly,

813
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: it didn't really get hurt until we had two kids.

814
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

815
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

816
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: Like my wife, she had a two time Olympian swimming

817
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: and she used to sleep. She'd sleep eleven hours, yeah,

818
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: and then she'd take an hour and nap between practice

819
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: because they have two practices a day. And yeah, it's

820
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: it's funny when you look back. I think a lot

821
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: of people before sleep had all this attention. The people

822
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: that tend to be the best athletes in the world

823
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: happened to sleep really well. Like I think, I don't

824
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: think they knew why it was helping or exactly had

825
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: a plan, But I don't think that's a coincidence. Like

826
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: if you were only sleeping six hours the entire.

827
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:05,479
Speaker 5: Time, you could do that.

828
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: No way I could do it now, Yeah, you know.

829
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 2: Especially now that you're sick and yeah, no, no, that

830
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 2: I'm sick for sure.

831
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 6: So how did you what was the issue that was

832
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 6: happening where you decided to start trying the nasal strips

833
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 6: or the tape Seven years ago, I.

834
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: Didn't have any so so I originally wanted to be

835
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: a strength conditioning coach and I started training people, and

836
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: I was training a bunch of athletes and all torts

837
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: of different people. And then I spent time like ten

838
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: years ago with this sleep doctor at UCLA, and this

839
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: was before any was talking about sleep performance, and I

840
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: was like, man, if my goal is to help people

841
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: perform at the highest level, it's really hard for me

842
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: not to think that sleep should be the first conversation

843
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: I'm having. And that was That's kind of started the

844
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: journey going back to school, learning more, and then going

845
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: down to sleep route, you know, head on. And so

846
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: there was a book written by James Nester. It's called

847
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: Breath and he really did.

848
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 2: A deep dive.

849
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: It's amazing book, super easy to read it, touch it,

850
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: it's like a it's not it's not a super technical book,

851
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: but and he dove into all the studies and science

852
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 1: behind nasal breathing and it was fascinating all the science

853
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 1: and he did really have a piecing it all together.

854
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: And so from that I started doing some just experimentation,

855
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: learning about it, trying and just with regular tape, and

856
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: then realized there wasn't really a lot of products out there,

857
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 1: and then it kind of evolved from that. So it

858
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: was a combination of you know, inspiration from new science

859
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 1: and then self exploration. But you know, I think breath

860
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: is so overlooked, and I was one of those people

861
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: that's like, I don't want to do breath work. This

862
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: is annoying. It's like weird, I can't keep my attention,

863
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: and so it you know, like you get all the

864
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: benefits of that without having to do it right. And

865
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: so then it evolved too because it was like, you know,

866
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: guys like you know, like crossfits a great example of

867
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: there's not really a brand that makes sleep products that

868
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: are geared towards athletes like that or football. You know,

869
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: we were a lot of football teams and NFL teams

870
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: with products. It's like most of sleep masks back then

871
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: were pink silk sleep mask. Instead trying to create a

872
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: brand that was performance oriented, that you know, high performance,

873
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: like like making it acceptable for high performance, to prioritize sleep,

874
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: because up until five years ago, it was like sleep

875
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: when you're dead. It almost looked soft if you were

876
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: sleeping and prioritizing sleep before. That's why everyone thought you

877
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 1: were asleep. You were soft back in the day. Yeah,

878
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: it was still.

879
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 6: Will you will you force like nasal or nasal breathing and.

880
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: Training, Uh yeah, certain types, yeah, but in general just

881
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: being intentional with it up until a certain point. But yeah,

882
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people do, like zone to nasal breathing.

883
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: Only some people tape their mouth when they're doing like

884
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: long woods and stuff. I don't take their mouth. I'll

885
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: do nasal breathing for sure. But if you're sick, nasal

886
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: shrip will change your.

887
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 2: Life, dude.

888
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm honestly the best, the best, like if you're stuffy

889
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: and the other thing on, like it's I needed.

890
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 6: That this year when we were in Colorado.

891
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, my nose.

892
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 6: My nose was more blocked up than I think it's

893
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 6: ever been.

894
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: It's nothing worse. And then you can't sleep at all.

895
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: I think half the time when you're sick, you feel

896
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: bad because you can't sleep.

897
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 5: There you go tonight. Yeah, I don't have any nasal

898
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 5: tried one on. I've not tried this one.

899
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,439
Speaker 2: Yet, throwing on there, I'll put it on you.

900
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 5: All right, we'll do it. Will we work out?

901
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

902
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 5: But yeah, I.

903
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 3: Thought about you on one third Friday when I got

904
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: real sick, yeah, and had like the aches.

905
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 5: And full sweats and all that.

906
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 3: I was like, that's just what Scott felt like on

907
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,479
Speaker 3: the side of that mountain that one day.

908
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 6: That's a bad place to be, said.

909
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 1: I got it when I was in Finland, So yeah,

910
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: Drake was it was so bad, dude. So we went

911
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: so first off, when we went to Finland, I'm like, oh,

912
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: I've super hell, it's the happiest country in the world. Yeah,

913
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean friendliest country. Those are two different things,

914
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: I realized. But yeah, I'm like, I'm gonna have the

915
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 1: healthiest week ever. We're doing twenty five saunas. Like I'm

916
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: going to come back feel like a million bucks. Every

917
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 1: place we went, people are just hammering beers, Like every

918
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: sauna beers, beers, beers, sausages in the sauna beers And

919
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: I'm like, so we went out out and uh we

920
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: went we went out to a karaoke bar and everyone

921
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: just got like really out of control, and uh, we

922
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 1: had a lot of drinks and then I woke up.

923
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I'm going to die.

924
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: But what happened was that I got neurovirus that night,

925
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: which is like your stomach sick, and I was the

926
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: first person in our group to get it. So I

927
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,919
Speaker 1: woke up and I'm like, I'm just I'm being such

928
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: a bitch right now. Yeah, like I'm I'm dying and

929
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: we had to go. We went dog sledding the next morning,

930
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: and I'm like on this dog. So I'm like just

931
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: absolutely wanted to die. And then I ended up like

932
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: going to these songs and stuff and my heart rate

933
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: was like one ten resting heart rate.

934
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 2: Turned out I had neurovirus.

935
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: Everyone else got to the next like three days, but

936
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: I probably could have died because I'm in these like

937
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: two hundred degree song is sick, hungover. It was like

938
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: the worst worst day of my life.

939
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 6: So maybe that's why they're souning so much. Maybe they're

940
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 6: trying to sweat.

941
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: It was crazy, like we go at eleven am like

942
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 1: one beers. I'm like, no, not really, it's.

943
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 6: A horrible combination with the song.

944
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: And then they would they would cook the sausages on

945
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: the song on the rocks, and so it smelled like sausage.

946
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm like, this is not the vibe I'm going for.

947
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 1: Holy well, what's crazy about? So I was talking about

948
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: those like the health's, the longevity studies. The one thing

949
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: we miss is like we do exactly like what you

950
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: guys asked.

951
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: How many minutes? Yeah, how many days?

952
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 5: What they do because they're like a go do it.

953
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: It's like like they they think, yes, they think that

954
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 1: the sauna is like the source of health and wellness,

955
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: and they believe that, and then it's a community thing

956
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: like families. Like even at like very average apartment complexes,

957
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: they have a community sauna. Every family books it for

958
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: an hour usually on Saturdays or Sundays, and they have

959
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 1: a family song and they spend time together. They relaxed,

960
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: and so I think, like it's hard to extract the

961
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: outcomes from that and not have the mindset. Yeah, like

962
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: everything surrounding the sauna plays a big role, and they

963
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: manage to stressed really well because of how they think

964
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: of this stuff. So I don't think sitting in a

965
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: hot box for twenty minutes like I think they're not

966
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: independent of each other.

967
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was about to say, there's a lot of

968
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 5: a lot of causation.

969
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: It can be stressed out of your mind and just

970
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 1: send the sauna and expect all that to go away.

971
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 5: Exactly.

972
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 3: It's like what I was saying, you know, like I

973
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 3: take my two spin drifts.

974
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 5: Down there in the morning, maybe a nice coffee.

975
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: If I have it that you go through the spin drift.

976
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 5: Yah, it's usually my go to keep drink playing water.

977
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: I'll drink I'm not a big I hate playing water.

978
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 6: I've never seen you drink playing water in my life.

979
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 2: I'm a big of Lacroix guy.

980
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 6: Outside of hunting, you'll drink it when we hunt. I've

981
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 6: never seen it outside of the restaurants.

982
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 2: Okay, do you get sparkling water if it's available?

983
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 5: Really flat man, I wasn't.

984
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 3: I actually hate sparkling water unless it's unless it's soon drift.

985
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 5: I don't like, I hate Lacroix.

986
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 2: I can't do the like fake What about like a

987
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: like a ollipop?

988
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 5: Uh? Those are basically just soda.

989
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like yeah, yeah.

990
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 5: Like.

991
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: From Michigan.

992
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 6: I never called it pop because I thought it sounded stupid,

993
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 6: and so I always called it soda.

994
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: I never thought it sounded stupid, but then when you

995
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: get away from it a little bit, like it kind

996
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: of sounds like I don't know, I.

997
00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 2: Just call it coked, you know, like soda.

998
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 3: Usually Yeah, no, I so yeah, I'll usually go two

999
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 3: spin dress and then like I said, I'll listen to

1000
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 3: a book.

1001
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 2: Or have you ever worn the hats?

1002
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 5: No?

1003
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: That the sweat sensors. No, we just got a new sponsor.

1004
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: It's like Nicks. It's it's so cool. So you wear

1005
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: this sensor. It's bluetooth and it literally measures real time

1006
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: fluid loss and so.

1007
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: So it's like a real time sweat tast Yeah, they

1008
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 3: need to send me that canet heavy heavy sweat.

1009
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: So I sweat like like seventy one and seventy percent

1010
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: of the average person, which makes sense because I can

1011
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: stand the song on a long time. Yeah, which, the

1012
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 1: better you sweat usually the better. I'm sure you're probably

1013
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: the same way I am.

1014
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 5: So hot run, which is.

1015
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: Probably why you were able to like keep pushing like

1016
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: in those environments.

1017
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 3: Like I immediately when I start working out, or if

1018
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 3: I'm in the song or for two minutes.

1019
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like we did a video the other day.

1020
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 3: It's a uh, pumped the giveaway and I just sat

1021
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 3: in there for like two minutes and it was already

1022
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 3: like lathered up.

1023
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1024
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: When we were driving into town, I thought you'd have

1025
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: all the roads renamed after you.

1026
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: You only have the one one.

1027
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's technically it's my dad's so I sell people.

1028
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 6: Yeah. We both sweat enough to wear when we were

1029
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 6: rifle hunting, and it was October yeah, yeah, so it

1030
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 6: was like what forties or fifties. Oh, and we would

1031
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 6: intentionally if we had like a thousand foot climb, we

1032
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 6: would intentionally wear like a T shirt because once we

1033
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 6: got there, it'd be we both sweated all the way through.

1034
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 6: Just take off that layer, put on all new, like

1035
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 6: warm layers.

1036
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 5: I ended up just wearing a orange vest the one day.

1037
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, plain orange vests.

1038
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 5: We climbed like a thousand feet in what less than

1039
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 5: a mile, Yeah, and it was just it was miserable hot. Yeah.

1040
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 6: And I remember, actually we'd go into sweating a lot.

1041
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 6: Two years or three years ago, we when we were

1042
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 6: in Idaho rifle hunting, we had this really hard climb

1043
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 6: out of it was like our fourth day when we

1044
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 6: saw that stuff. Oh yeah, and we'd sweated through our

1045
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 6: pants even like the pants were soaked through, like you

1046
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 6: can wring them out.

1047
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's what's that's what's interesting with like measuring

1048
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: how many like to let you're losing is like in

1049
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: any type of competition in the environment like that, you

1050
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: really you really have no idea, Like I couldn't have

1051
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: guessed within ten outs of how much fluid I lost

1052
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: or how much electrolytes. So you know, for athletes, I

1053
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 1: feel like it's that's a valuable tool to be able

1054
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: to figure out exactly what your balance is because I

1055
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: don't think people realize that you can dehydrate yourself from

1056
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: drinking too much water.

1057
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 2: That's that balance. Yeah.

1058
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: So and I back to sleep, like hydration is people

1059
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: mess up their sleep with hydration a lot with just

1060
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: their strategy.

1061
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 5: I was about, say, being two hydrated and they backload it.

1062
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's like you really want majority of your

1063
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: fluid intake the first half of the day unless you're

1064
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: doing something crazy at night. But you know, rule with them,

1065
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 1: we usually say like no food, like the three two one,

1066
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: no food three hours before bed, no no fluids two hours,

1067
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: and then no screens one hour.

1068
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 2: That's a pretty good rule. But yeah, the fluid.

1069
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 1: Is like not only just how much you're having, how

1070
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: you're drinking it. So like if you drink more than

1071
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: five ounces, like you gulped down five ounces, like your

1072
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: body is trying to maintain that balance but electrolyte, so

1073
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: it's going to trigger you to go to the bathroom

1074
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: more often. I got to get up in the middle

1075
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: of the night. So a lot of times, honestly, when

1076
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: people front load their hydration, they wake up way less

1077
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: often because, uh, you know, every time you wake up

1078
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night, it's an opportunity for

1079
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 1: you to potentially not fall back to sleep.

1080
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: Sleep.

1081
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: So you can limit if you can do everything in

1082
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: your power to limit that beyond you know, the natural

1083
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 1: and waking up one one time to go to math

1084
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 1: umber two.

1085
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: You should do that.

1086
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: If you're waking up three or four times, it's like,

1087
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: you know, think about your hydration strategy.

1088
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 5: Usually one.

1089
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 6: Sometimes I'm an outlier because I will drink a lot.

1090
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 6: I work out in the afternoon and so I'm super tough,

1091
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 6: thirsty after and I drink so much liquid at night.

1092
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 6: I'm talking like before I late, I'm standing at my

1093
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 6: bedside table. I will drink like ten hours of water,

1094
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 6: I lay down in bed, I do not. Maybe ten

1095
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 6: times a year I wake up to pee in the

1096
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 6: middle of Wow. Yeah, I never have to go.

1097
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: Do you where a whoop or ye? Woo? Is it

1098
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: you must have a great sleep score?

1099
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 6: Yeah? Usually every if I'm if I'm not like traveling

1100
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 6: or hunting or something like that, I'm basically in a

1101
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 6: green every day, and my sleep's all almost like yeah.

1102
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the sleep score a lot more because

1103
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: the green is tough. Yeah, I get so many questions

1104
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: about being in the green. And it's like, you know,

1105
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: whoop is a self correcting algorithm. So if you hit

1106
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: ninety eight percent recovery in the green and your biometrics

1107
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: the exact same every day for like years, that will

1108
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: that ninety eight will start becoming closer and closer to fifty.

1109
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: Eventually you'll be in the yellow with the same biometrics, so,

1110
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: you know, because it corrects itself. Sometimes people expect to

1111
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 1: be in the green, but realistically, the majority of your days,

1112
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: even if you were, if you're super consistent recovering well

1113
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: and there's not these like crazy outliers, like most of

1114
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: your days will be in the high level of yellows

1115
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: like those sixties.

1116
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: Are are great.

1117
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: That's a normal day, and I think people shouldn't look

1118
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: at that green as like good.

1119
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 3: That's not how I was at a one percent on Saturday. Yeah,

1120
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 3: obviously it was like flew night and then I've been

1121
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 3: in every day since and feeling like crap.

1122
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just because you're resting.

1123
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 5: Probably, Yeah, I got nine hours of sleep last night, So.

1124
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 2: I wonder what your HIV was on that day. Totally trash.

1125
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 5: That good that.

1126
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 6: Doing some sort of sweat test. I think even like

1127
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 6: thinking about like a backcountry hunting application, Yeah, super important

1128
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 6: because if you're packing for a seven or ten day

1129
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 6: hunt and you know exactly yeah, I mean it's not

1130
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 6: gonna be perfect, but you know, if you're having a

1131
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 6: high output of activity how much, yeah, like you're losing

1132
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 6: per hour or whatever, I think that'd be super beneficial.

1133
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: Definitely, we've we've worked The other tool we've worked with

1134
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: some for hunts is the sleep mask. Because of the

1135
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: light environments, which you're normal.

1136
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 3: On a day like today when I'm eighty six percent

1137
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 3: is ninety seven.

1138
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, my wife's back, and when you're swimming there's like

1139
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: one eight one ninety really yeah, crazy.

1140
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 2: Sorry, Michael Philson's was like two fifty. That's crazy.

1141
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, like the mask, you know, because a lot

1142
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: of hunts there's like the lighting environment. You never know,

1143
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: depending can be super light or dark, and so sometimes

1144
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: when you get used to that, like every night, it's

1145
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: like a psychological trigger. At least you can replicate that

1146
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: environment when you're out wherever you are.

1147
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 2: That can be a useful tool.

1148
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: We recommend that lot to athletes because you know, when

1149
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: you're on the road, if you're in a hotel, you

1150
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: can't predict the situation. Yeah, so it's like, okay, how

1151
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: can we control the most things possible? And so you know,

1152
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 1: with the mask, it's like you can replicate that environment

1153
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: anywhere you go.

1154
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 2: Apply to hunts too.

1155
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I hate any type of light whatsoever?

1156
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 2: Do you use a mask r now? No?

1157
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 5: Half the time.

1158
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 3: I tried it for a while and I'll just push

1159
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 3: it off in the middle of the night. Yeah, I'd

1160
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 3: start the night with it.

1161
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: But it's tough though when you go somewhere probably, Yeah,

1162
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 1: And that's kind of where it's like with with you know, athletes,

1163
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: especially like competitive competitive athletes.

1164
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 2: It's it's like you you can't risk that.

1165
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 6: No, the light doesn't bother me either. I'm starting to

1166
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 6: think I just sleep well as like an outliers, noting

1167
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 6: to do. The only thing I do properly, I think

1168
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 6: is the timing, like I go to bed at the

1169
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 6: same time, have the same time.

1170
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: But like like that, So like a lot of people

1171
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: are where you're at right, and they they think of

1172
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: sleep as as like fitness, where you can continue to

1173
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: get better and optimize it, right, And it's like sleep is.

1174
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 2: One of those things.

1175
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: If you're getting the right quantity, you feel like getting

1176
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: good quality and you wake up in the morning have energy,

1177
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: and you feel good like great, keep doing what you're doing,

1178
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: like you don't want to over you can overthink yourself

1179
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: into getting bad sleep. You start thinking about metrics and

1180
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: how you can make it better. Like just because you

1181
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: have the perfect temperature and routine, that doesn't mean your

1182
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 1: actual sleep quality is better. Right, So if you feel good,

1183
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: like check the box, move on. It's not a linear

1184
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: progression like it is, you know, endurance. Yeah, Like it's

1185
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: I think thinking about that.

1186
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 6: I think what you bringing up like, I think the

1187
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 6: biggest thing that I would say is affected sleep in

1188
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 6: my life is like talking about the life stresses. Yeah,

1189
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 6: like I think because I don't have much stress, that's

1190
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 6: probably what's doing it. Because I definitely don't follow the

1191
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 6: three two one rule the only and I'm active and

1192
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 6: I go to bed and wake up at the same time.

1193
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: But those those are like the two biggest things, you know, Like, yeah,

1194
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: I mean you manage your stress, you're consistent, and you're

1195
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: you have a healthy lifestyle. I mean those are the

1196
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: big rocks and the other stuff everyone likes to talk about.

1197
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, everything falls in

1198
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: place sometimes when the other things are working.

1199
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 5: Well.

1200
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 3: Cool dude, Yeah, I think you know two main there's

1201
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 3: almost like two subsets that takeaway have purpose.

1202
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, get rid of the stress in your life.

1203
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have that, those two things.

1204
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 3: But then I think the three to two to one

1205
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 3: thing is super beneficial, just a practical thing that people

1206
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 3: can try if they are you know, like, hey man,

1207
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 3: I'll work out pretty regularly.

1208
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 5: I manage my stress. Well.

1209
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 3: I think we all have stress in our life that

1210
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 3: sometimes creeps up. But then I think that three to

1211
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 3: two one, So say that again.

1212
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: So no food three hours before bed, no water two hours,

1213
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: then no screens one hour and screens are tough, Like

1214
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: that's why, like if there's some glasses out there you

1215
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: can use, because sometimes it's unrealistic, but if you're going

1216
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: to use them, like yeah, do you use something to

1217
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: block some of that light?

1218
00:49:58,520 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1219
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 5: Cool, and then they can check you out.

1220
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, dream recovery, the nasal strips. I mean if if

1221
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: you're snoring, a lot of guys especially like snoring, get

1222
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: at home sleep test and if you are, like super

1223
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: useful tool.

1224
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, good for sleep and good for fitness.

1225
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:14,240
Speaker 2: Right yeah, definitely.

1226
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's honestly like people like you know,

1227
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: like right now high rocks, like people wearing nail strips

1228
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: like crazy. But the real use case would be like

1229
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: a hike or something where it's kind of like that

1230
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 1: lower level intensity being breathed through your nose the whole

1231
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: time you'll lose, You'll you'll use less energy throughout the

1232
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: entire duration, so keeping your heart rate low, especially like

1233
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: on a big hike hunt that could be a useful.

1234
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 2: Tool because a lot of people want to breathe well

1235
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: Through their nose and that's how you want to be breathing,

1236
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: especially if you're carrying gear or whatever.