1 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Top one hundred Players, 2 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: presented by Bud Light. I'm Bob Papa's The Giants celebrate 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: one hundred years of New York Giants football, and one 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: of the really cool things is the countdown in the 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: Top one hundred, and we're going to look at thirty 6 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: one through forty. 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: Joined by Paul Schwartz, who was part of the process. 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: What we did was we took thirteen independent voters, historians, 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame voters, people from the National Football League, 10 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: put together a blue ribbon panel, and Paul of over 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 1: the five thousand men who have worn a Giant's uniform 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: since nineteen twenty five, we got a list of one hundred. 13 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: Talk about that process. 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: And what it was like for you revisiting these names 15 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: and really not just to study in Giants history but 16 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: NFL history. 17 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 3: Well, I would like to say it was impossible, but 18 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 3: we did come up with a list of one hundred, 19 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 3: so it was not impossible. 20 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 4: It was possible, but it's very difficult. 21 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: I mean, we have two obviously great former Giants here, 22 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 3: two of many that we had to look from, and 23 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: first you had to figure out are they deserving of 24 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 3: the top one hundred and then where do you put 25 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 3: him in the top one hundred. 26 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 4: There was debate, certainly. 27 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 3: I mean there was, you know, maybe a little person 28 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 3: from this era saying I think this era should be 29 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 3: represented more than this era. Very difficult, obviously, two very 30 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: deserving guys here, but it was great. 31 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 4: I mean, you learn a lot. 32 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 3: You learn a lot from other voters and just pouring 33 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 3: through history and seeing you know, there's a lot of 34 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 3: really good players you had to sort through really well. 35 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: We have number thirty one on our list Chris Snee 36 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,199 Speaker 1: and Joe Morris was number thirty eight, and Joe, I'll 37 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: defer to you as the veteran of the group here. 38 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 2: Your reaction to being named one of the top one 39 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 2: hundred players in the history of the franchise. 40 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 5: When you told me, I almost wanted to cry. It 41 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 5: was that moved. My career started here, very strangely for me, 42 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 5: and I thought when I got here, I was going 43 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 5: to be here for maybe a year and I'll be 44 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 5: someplace else, and it all turned around. It took two 45 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 5: and a half years, but I'm very proud of this honor. 46 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 5: I'm thankful for it. I had great teammates, I played 47 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 5: with someone of the greats, and I'm just I'm in 48 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 5: awe of this whole experience. 49 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: You know, Joe was part of the Super Bowl twenty 50 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: one to twenty five era, that great time in Giant's 51 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: history eighty four through nineteen ninety. Chris, you under Tom 52 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: Coughlin sort of replicated what Parcels did having won Super 53 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: Bowls in seven and eleven. For you, what's it like 54 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: to be recognized as one of the top one hundred 55 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: players in the history of the franchise and like Joe 56 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: being Super Bowl Champion. 57 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 6: Well, like j just said, extremely humbling. Actually, when you 58 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 6: spoke to me, I had chills throughout my whole body. 59 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 6: And it was a similar phone call to when mister 60 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 6: Merrick called and said, I'll go into the Ring of Honor. 61 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 6: And then to put in perspective to think about it, 62 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 6: when you said five thousand players that have worn the 63 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 6: uniform and to be ranked where I was, you know, 64 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 6: it's extremely flattering. And you know, my thought after you 65 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 6: told me was going to my teammates who I played with, 66 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 6: and how you know, nothing would have happened without the 67 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 6: four guys I played with up front, and you know, 68 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 6: to be on this list with them is very special. 69 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 7: It means a lot. 70 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: Joe, you mentioned that you thought you might only last 71 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: two years or whatever. You wind up not only setting 72 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: the Giants single season rushing record, but when you left 73 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: the Giants, you were the Giants all time leading rusher. 74 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: Who inspired you, who helped guide you to bring out 75 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: the best in Joe Morris to become a champion and 76 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: become one of the greatest Giants of all time. 77 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 5: I guess that three people did have a teammate, Harry Curson. 78 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 5: I watched him do things. I remember a game against Dallas. 79 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 5: He was on one knee making tackles all game long. 80 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 5: And after watching that, Bob, if you're not inspired by 81 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 5: somebody going out there playing on one knee, because that's 82 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 5: what Harry did. Then I had Maurice Carthin, someone who 83 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 5: came in to block and do things for me. He 84 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 5: told me, said, Joe, we're not going to get them 85 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 5: blocked all the time. Sometimes you have to break tackle 86 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 5: somebody that you have to do this, and you're gonna 87 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 5: have to do this by yourself, he said, Joe, You're 88 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 5: gonna have to stand up to it. He says. The 89 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 5: last thing I want you to remember is this right here, Joe, 90 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 5: I'm gonna get my block. I don't care what everybody 91 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 5: else does. You do your job and get us to 92 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 5: the end zone. Do what you gotta do. And I 93 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 5: guess the last person I really want to mention is 94 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 5: Mark Haynes. When he was a player here, he told me, 95 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 5: he said, Joe, this is a business. You have to 96 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 5: understand that. But I want you to understand this. You 97 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 5: have ability. Let no one tell you what you're capable 98 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 5: of doing. If you believe in yourself, it's gonna be fine. 99 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 5: And you think about Harry and Mark and what they 100 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 5: told me, and then Maurice being a teammate and playing 101 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 5: with me in the same backfield. Those three people really 102 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 5: help me. I had George Martin, I had Phil Simms 103 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 5: around me, I had Mark Bavarro, people that I enjoyed 104 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 5: being around. But those three were the people that got 105 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 5: me to think about trying to do something special. 106 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 8: Here we go one yard, need a broduckdown, hand off 107 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 8: Maras he's going to get it. 108 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 3: Also, I mean with both of these guys, I mean 109 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 3: big games and big moments. You know, we have super 110 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: Bowl champions here, and to look at some of your 111 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 3: numbers in eighty five, which was the start of that, 112 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 3: you know, I mean, or you know, the precipice of 113 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: a championship, and then to see eighty six and the 114 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 3: numbers you put up. You know, people have to remember 115 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: that this is one hundred years. It's a long era. 116 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 3: When Joe played, the Giants ran the ball more than 117 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 3: they threw the ball, right, That just doesn't happen now. 118 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 3: So the running back, the number one running back then 119 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 3: was more. 120 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 4: Important, he really was. 121 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 3: If you couldn't run the ball, you couldn't win what 122 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 3: twenty one touchdowns in eighty five, fourteen and eighty six, 123 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 3: all those yards in the playoffs. I mean, that's how 124 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 3: you get to be in the top one hundred because 125 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 3: you not only do it, you do it in the 126 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 3: biggest stage, at the biggest moments. I mean, you can't 127 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 3: write the history of the eighty six Super Bowl winning 128 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 3: Giants without, you know, a pretty good chapter on the 129 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 3: running game led by Joe and the offensive line and 130 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 3: everything else. But it's it was a running game back 131 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: then more so than it is now, and he was 132 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 3: the ring. 133 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 4: Leader of it. 134 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: I think the beauty of it too is although it's 135 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: two different eras Chris. I mean you could talk to this. 136 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: You didn't have Joe Morris. You had more of a compilation. 137 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: But you guys had the same mindset that they had. 138 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: Everybody knew that when the Giants needed to make a 139 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: yard where they needed to run a game out, it 140 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: was Joe Morris running off the right side or whatever. 141 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: I dare you to stop it. 142 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: You're seven giants and the eight Giants pretty much were 143 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: the same thing. 144 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys won with a run game. 145 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 6: We did, and that's how they, like, you know, the 146 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 6: front office constructed the offensive line. That's you know, we 147 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 6: knew that era was so successful, so why not go 148 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 6: back and try to tap into that well and kind 149 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 6: of construct a similar team. So the offensive line we 150 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 6: had was a running offensive line, you know, who could pass, 151 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 6: block with the help of a good running game. So 152 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 6: with tremendous running backs starting from when I first came 153 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 6: here and know Ford with Tiki and then you know 154 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 6: the heads that came after the Brandon, Derek Ward, Amon Bradshaw, 155 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 6: you know, tough, physical, downhill guys. Obviously different styles, but 156 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 6: still physical running backs. So it was something that we 157 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 6: took tremendous pride and doing is running the ball when 158 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 6: they knew we were going to run. 159 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 3: It with Chris and his offensive line the first one 160 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 3: in two thousand and seven, you were the highest drafted 161 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 3: player on that line. You know, there was no first 162 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: round picks on that line. O'Hara was undrafted, Richie Saybert 163 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 3: was undrafted, Kareem McKenzie was a third round pick of 164 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 3: the Jets, right, and David Dial was a fifth round pick. 165 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 3: So it was interesting you were the most decorated. I 166 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 3: remember the night that you were drafted. Somebody else was 167 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 3: drafted that day, right, Who else was drafted that same day? 168 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 5: Oh? 169 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,239 Speaker 4: Eli? Right, Eli was drafted. 170 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 3: So I remember they draft the Charges draft Eli Manning, 171 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 3: and I'm working and trying to get this all done. 172 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 3: And then he gets ra to the Giants, and holy cow, 173 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 3: holy cow, And before you know it, the Giants around 174 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 3: the clock with the second round pick. And I remember 175 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 3: just hearing, okay, they got Christny Guard Boston College, and 176 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, thank god, just the guard. Right now, 177 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: he's in the top one hundred and you and Eli 178 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, you mentioned Tiki being a 179 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: good running back. He had his three best years of 180 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 3: his career four, five and six when you guys and 181 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 3: you blocking for him especially he had career high, career high, 182 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 3: career high to finish off his career. So I mean, 183 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: you know, and then four years later you did it 184 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 3: with David Boss, right, he was the center and you 185 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 3: had Booth so still no first round pick. So in 186 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 3: your sort of quiet, understated way, you were the top 187 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 3: guy for both lines, you know, both of those Super 188 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 3: Bowl lines, because you were the highest drafted guy. 189 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 4: And that's the way you did it. You did it 190 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 4: in your own way. But you were the leader of 191 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 4: that group. 192 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: I can tell you that, Joe, you helped deliver the 193 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: first championship for the Giants in thirty years. There was 194 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: so much downtime between the NFL championship loss in nineteen 195 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: sixty three. All the Giants finally made the playoffs again 196 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: in eighty one. So you usher in this new era 197 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: and you're part of the renaissance of the Giants with 198 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: someone living in the area like you did. Was it 199 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: fun to watch his teams sort of have some of 200 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: the same DNA that your team's had. 201 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 5: You know what was really great about those teams or 202 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 5: this RD here, these guys went to work every week 203 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 5: just like we did. They can run the ball down 204 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 5: people's throats, same thing I was used to doing against him. 205 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 5: I had such respect for what they did. You know, 206 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 5: Tom Coffin is somebody that I love too. This was 207 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 5: my college coach, he was my position coach. This is 208 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 5: someone I was proud of, and he was doing this. 209 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 5: But then you had the situation where these guys they 210 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 5: made plays when they had to. Anytime in their running game, 211 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 5: they could do it, and they could pass the ball. 212 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 5: They could do anything they wanted to do, just like 213 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 5: Fuel did for us. He can make plays when we 214 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 5: gave him a chants to yeah and. 215 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: Make plays at the right time. Bobby Johnson, fourth and seventeen, 216 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: right exactly, Bobby, be alert, it might be open. Hits 217 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: him with it. Chris, I want to ask you about 218 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: number thirty two on the list. 219 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: OC Human. 220 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: You're your teammate, guy that you had to practice against 221 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: every day and go against. What made OC such a 222 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: difference maker in your opinion? 223 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 6: He was just so athletic. You know what I first 224 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 6: got here as a rookie. You're looking through the defensive lineman. 225 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 6: Obviously Straighthan is the guy, and you're like, you know, 226 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 6: you know how do I fare up against him, but 227 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 6: quickly in practice you can just see I had never 228 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 6: seen an athlete like oc before on the edge guilt. 229 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 9: For back to throw a sack by human euro Boler's 230 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 9: list picked up by jos He's running with it. 231 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 4: He's got roadblocks to midfield. No one's gonna catch him 232 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 4: in Europe. 233 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 9: He's got speed twenty fifteen ten five touchdown ocymn Europe. 234 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 9: He gets the hat trick, the sack, the force fumble 235 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 9: and the touchdow seventy. 236 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 6: Five year hearts, you know, elite first step, really good 237 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 6: with his hands, and he had surprising power. That was 238 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 6: the one thing I don't think he got credit for us. 239 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 6: He could hold up against the run. He could he 240 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 6: could convert you know, a speed rush into a power 241 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 6: rush and knock a guy back. So that part of 242 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 6: his game was understated. And I just think what I 243 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 6: loved about Osie so much was he just was always 244 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 6: in a good move. He was always, you know, like 245 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 6: that infectious smile, that guy you want in the locker 246 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 6: room that it's just kind of rubbed off and everyone 247 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 6: else in the right way. You know that he was 248 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 6: a leader of the team. He came to work, and 249 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 6: obviously when he was in uniform, he was very, very productive, 250 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 6: just the guy you want to be on an infectious 251 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 6: personality and a guy that just had a passion for 252 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 6: football and loved wearing the Giants uniform. 253 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: I think Osi also took a lot of pride in 254 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: recording sacks and forced fumbles without actually ever hitting the 255 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: ground because he was so fast coming off the edge 256 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: knocked that ball. He didn't even get dirty. 257 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: I think his teammateshoos to say that he didn't even 258 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 3: need to wash his uniform, you know, was clean. Looked 259 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 3: like he wasn't doing anything. You look at this thing. 260 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 3: He's got one and a half sacks, He's got a 261 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 3: force fumble. I mean, was anyone quicker off the line 262 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 3: that that? I mean that I can remember now, did 263 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 3: you see that in training camp? Like that off the 264 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 3: line without doubt? 265 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 7: And listen, when we came to practice, we worked. 266 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, we and as you know, go against the same 267 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 6: guys for three or four years. Sure there's some brother 268 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 6: in law treatment maybe you know, kind of just work 269 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 6: hands in a pass set, but training camp was training camp. Now, Yeah, 270 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 6: we were all getting ready for the season. So we 271 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 6: saw what Osi had to bring and yeah, he was, 272 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 6: like I said, he liked in practice. 273 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 5: He liked it. 274 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 4: He liked you know, beat you. 275 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 7: He told you we beat He definitely did. He did. 276 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 7: But he did it with a smile on his face, 277 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 7: you know, not a face that you wanted. 278 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 4: To but you weren't smiling when he said that. 279 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure right well, he didn't really slide inside, you know, Joe, 280 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about some other names on 281 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: this list in this grouping that you're in because, uh, 282 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, you've again being in the air, you've seen 283 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys, uh working for the league 284 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,719 Speaker 1: on the sideline making sure that the socks were of 285 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: the right length and everything else. But the talent and 286 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: the precision of number thirty seven on the list this list, 287 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham and his ability to control a football game 288 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 1: from the wide receiver position was pretty amazing. 289 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 5: One of the plays I think about every time I 290 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 5: think about football the day made that one handed catch 291 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 5: in the end zone. That was a play that you 292 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 5: just don't see. 293 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: Made deep ball down the right sideline, It's a jump ball. 294 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior made the catch with one hand for 295 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: the touchdown. 296 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 4: Wow. What a catch by the rookie. 297 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 10: Wow, ridiculous. 298 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 5: He did it with one hand. He brought the ball 299 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 5: down with control. That impressed me. That play showed what 300 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 5: he was capable of doing. And that's giant football there, 301 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 5: you make plays when you have a chance. 302 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 2: He fall down the right sideline. 303 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 4: He's got up there on the run across the forties. 304 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 9: He's in the thirty twenty fifteen ten Ton punch down 305 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 9: Tiens seventy five yards where Erwin looked like Kitson yet here. 306 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: Remember the one game up and I don't know if 307 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: you were on the sidelines for it, but the Ravens 308 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: good team, and they decided to play cover zero and 309 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: Eli throws him the slant and it. 310 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 7: Was just it was over over. 311 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 4: It was over. 312 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: Now it comes down to fourth and won back to throw, 313 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: shifts it over the middle cot by Odell. 314 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 4: He's racing across midfield. He's of the forty. 315 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 9: Breaks left to the thirty piece in the twenties fifteen 316 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 9: ten five touchdown Giants sixty six short. 317 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 4: Oh baby, is he good? 318 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: The Giants went in a wild one. 319 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 3: It looked like a video game because there was a 320 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 3: guy here, a guy here, a guy here, And you say, 321 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 3: Odell I said. 322 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: One of the guys was Ed Reed. By the way 323 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: he was in the Hall of Fame. 324 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 3: He's gonna get him, not close. He's gonna get him 325 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 3: not close, you know. And look, that was a lot 326 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 3: of the offense back then, right it was. It was 327 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 3: you know, you know, Hope, Hope, Hope bang, you know, 328 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 3: Hope O'Dell makes a play. 329 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: He made it very offul Another guy that kind of 330 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: felt well, guy that really fell in between your two 331 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: eras but was a great player, is number thirty four 332 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: on the list, Jesse Armstead. Jesse came to the Giants 333 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: as a late round pick and an eighth round pick 334 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: in ninety three. 335 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: It's not even eight. 336 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: Rounds in the draft anymore. But because of a knee injury, 337 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: he would have gone higher. But I always got the sense, 338 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: and maybe you could share this with us a little 339 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: bit that Jesse would have fit in the mindset and 340 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: temperament of your teams as well as your teams. 341 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 5: Jesse would have fit right in. He is just the 342 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 5: same motor, same abilities, and same just going after people 343 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 5: as Harry Carson. Those are people when I put you 344 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 5: in a cast with Harry Carson, you have to be 345 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 5: someone special. And trust me, Jesse had that and he 346 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 5: knew it. He was nasty. He went out and took 347 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 5: He went out made people pay when he was playing. 348 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 5: That's what he wanted to do. And you know, nicest 349 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 5: guy in the world, fun guy, but he did his 350 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 5: job every Sunday. 351 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 4: He was soft spot in the locker room. 352 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: But I remember once talking to him, and he also 353 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 3: had a very he didn't have a he had a 354 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 3: really like gentle handshake. So he said, this is the 355 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 3: fierce guy you see on the field that I remember 356 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: talking him once and about the field and playing and 357 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 3: he said he looked at me and had like a scowl. 358 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 3: He said, when I'm on that field, it's my time 359 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 3: to hunt. And he just said it in a very 360 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 3: mean way. And I'm like, I think this interview is 361 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 3: probably over, you know what I mean. I think he's 362 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 3: kind of getting in that hunt mode. I mean, he was, 363 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 3: You're right. I mean, they don't even have a round anymore. 364 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 3: That he was drafted, and he was he was. He 365 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 3: had a list of every linebacker who was taken before 366 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 3: him that draft. There were like forty something linebackers, and 367 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 3: every time one of those guys was out of the league, 368 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 3: he would cross it off like, Okay, you thought he 369 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 3: was better than me x x X, and he was 370 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 3: better than all of them. 371 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 2: Antonio Pierce had the same lesson. Yeah he was undrafted, 372 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 2: Yeah right. 373 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 6: And I think the first time I met Jesse, we 374 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 6: were I was in the weight room, and you know, 375 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 6: I was a guy that took pride in being strong, 376 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 6: and you know, so Me O'Hara and I think Luke 377 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 6: Pettigo had like you know, like four or five were 378 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 6: kind of just throwing some reps in and Jesse comes 379 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 6: walking in, didn't even warm up, and he hops on 380 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 6: the bench and he just really I don't think, it's 381 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 6: like who is this guy? Then I kind of got 382 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 6: that and I was like, oh, I know Jesse Armstead. 383 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 6: I got the backstory. But I think to this day 384 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 6: probably a guy that you don't want to get in 385 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 6: a fight with that kind of mentality, you know. 386 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: Paul Benny Friedman is number thirty six on this list, 387 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: two time All American quarterback at Michigan. This is how 388 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: good a player he was in his era. Giants owner 389 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: Tim Marraw bought a fledgling Detroit franchise because he Friedman 390 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: was playing for Detroit and he bought the team just 391 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: to make sure that he had Benny Friedman as his 392 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: quarterback for the Giants. 393 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 3: It's a business, right, and the business was getting a 394 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 3: quarterback who could sell tickets. And he was a great player, obviously. 395 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 3: You know, you don't see a lot of footage of him, 396 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 3: but when you researched him, you said, there's got to 397 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 3: be a place for him in the top one hundred 398 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,479 Speaker 3: because he was he was a seminal quarterback at an 399 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 3: era of Giants football. 400 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, one year he led the 401 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: league in rushing and passing touchdowns. I mean, it was 402 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: a different game at that point in time, but he 403 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: was a player that helped change the game in the 404 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: sense of the forward pass was not as common and 405 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: Benny Friedman was one of the two players in the 406 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: league that perfected the forward pass and kind of changed 407 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: a little bit of the arc of the national football. 408 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 3: You know, I wonder if the quarterbacks who play today, 409 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 3: if you would say his name, you know, they probably 410 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 3: you know, most of them probably wouldn't know. But if 411 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 3: you say to them, you know, there's a couple of 412 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 3: guys who played way before you that if not for them, 413 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 3: you might not be throwing forty touchdown passes. So guys 414 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: like you know, Benny Friedman, Oh, we can win throwing 415 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 3: the ball. Let's do it more often. 416 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 1: George Hallis said, Benny Friedman was the first quarterback to 417 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: help us all understand in the game the potential of 418 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: what the forward pass could bring to the game. Now 419 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: for you two guys is keeping on the ground. 420 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: Except exactly. 421 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: There's so many other great names on this list. Fran 422 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: Tarkington someone that we kind of grew up watching, although 423 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: his notoriety a lot of it came with the Minnesota Vikings. 424 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: What he did with the Giants going to a bunch 425 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: of Pro Bowls and in nineteen seventy they had a 426 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: chance to make the playoffs. But the guy was a 427 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: magician on the field. You remember watching him as a 428 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: kid at all? 429 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I did remember seeing him play, and I remember 430 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 5: more from Minnesota. But when I got here, that's when 431 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 5: I found out about it, because I'm someone i'd likes 432 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 5: to know about the franchise. I'm with, I want to 433 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 5: find out this and that was one of the good 434 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 5: things about that because to see him do that here 435 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 5: as well as in Minnesota. When I watched him as 436 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 5: a kid now. 437 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: About Rosie Greer and what he was able to do. 438 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 4: Rosie Greer was an amazing man. 439 00:19:55,200 --> 00:20:02,959 Speaker 3: I mean, he had an amazing life. He was friends 440 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 3: with with r f K, wasn't he He was a 441 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 3: film star. He was a great player with the Giants. 442 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 3: I mean, I I just you know, I was really 443 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 3: don't remember him as a player. Watching him was a 444 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 3: little before my time, but I've seen clips. Then he 445 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 3: went to the Rams and he was part of what 446 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 3: were they the fearsome forsome, you know, and just an 447 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 3: incredible personality. I mean, and I think that was the 448 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 3: way he was a football player too. Seemed like very 449 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 3: gregarious on the field. 450 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: I think he kind of speaks to the the panel 451 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: that was assembled in the fact that Rosie Greer winds 452 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: up finishing thirty fifth on this list, because sometimes we 453 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: become so recent biased. 454 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 2: You think of Alex Webster, Webster. 455 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 8: The Kings going down to Madalona to. 456 00:20:47,640 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: The Open, thirty ninth on this list, who was as 457 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: versatable back as they had. 458 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 8: Old pro Connorley airmails the message to Webster, who drives 459 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 8: Drew lah Cons and fists for twenty five yards to 460 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 8: the Browns twenty seven. This time the Versattle Mister Gilford 461 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 8: blocks Alex Webster, carries the pig skin for the touchdown, 462 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 8: and the Giants take the league seven to nothing. 463 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: Number forty on this list the great Dick Lynch, you 464 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: know as the radio analyst for a long time, and Joe, 465 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: I know during your era, he used to go into 466 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: that little player's lounge after the game and interview players 467 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: right in the locker room. 468 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: And he was such a fan of you guys and 469 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 2: the football team and so supportive. 470 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 5: And the best thing about Dins was Dick was on 471 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 5: your side. You knew it. He wanted to bring out 472 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 5: the best, and you wanted to bring out the best. 473 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 5: He said to me, Joe, quit being so shy, step up, 474 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 5: talk about the game as though we won the game. 475 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 5: And that meant a lot to me. He said, Joe, 476 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 5: I want you to be more confident. I know you're shy. 477 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 5: Do your job. That's all I need you to do, 478 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 5: and we're going to be fine. The radio interview is 479 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 5: going to be fine. And Bob, that's the first time 480 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 5: I ever thought and thought about that. I go, you 481 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 5: know what, I'm gonna enjoy this and not worry so 482 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 5: much about if I say something wrong. I really enjoyed 483 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 5: working with Dick, just working with him, talking to him 484 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 5: and seeing places. It meant something to me because, trust me, 485 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 5: Dick was a real fan. He said, you're gonna be fine, 486 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 5: young man, You're gonna be fine. He always told me that, 487 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 5: always told me that. 488 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: And Chris, you know, in his later years as a broadcast, 489 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: he always had the unlet cigar. But he was such 490 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: a fan of you guys and Coach Coughlin. And it's 491 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: got to be nice to have former players around that support. 492 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Dick was. 493 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 6: Very supportive of you guys, no doubt, Yeah, Dick or 494 00:22:58,400 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 6: anyone else that'll come back and kind of, you know, 495 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 6: just knowing they have the backing of former coaches players, 496 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 6: it means a lot. 497 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 8: Dick Lynch League leading interceptor nabs his third pass to 498 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 8: stop another eagle drive. 499 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 3: He's a big so big too, you know. I remember, 500 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 3: you know when you took up out all different era 501 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 3: as well, he was smaller this, I mean, how big 502 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: was he he was as a defensive He was very tall, 503 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 3: very tall. 504 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 4: I mean he said that was a guy who played 505 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 4: so many years ago. They usually supposed to be smaller. 506 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: So we're talking about my former broadcast partner, and he 507 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: was with Jim Gordon and did those interviews and then 508 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: his last game actually that he did before he retired 509 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 1: and then passed. 510 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 2: Away with Super Bowl forty two. But let's get into 511 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 2: the nitty gritty. 512 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: In nineteen sixty three, he led the NFL with two 513 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty one interception return yardage. He twice led 514 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: the league in interceptions, he had seven to nine on 515 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: two different occasions. He finished his Giants' career with thirty 516 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: five interceptions. So we kind of think of Dick Lynch 517 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: as the broadcast of the character. But he played on 518 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: all those great Giants teams in the early sixties and 519 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: was a heck of a player that put up some 520 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: numbers that still stand today. 521 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 3: And the voting was not about, you know, breadth of 522 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 3: career as far as it's not a broadcaster to wing. 523 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 3: This is the top one hundred players. So he was 524 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 3: voted in as a player. I mean, the other stuff 525 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 3: was great, but he was voted in just as a player, 526 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 3: and as you said, he deserved it as a player. 527 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 3: I mean, the other stuff is icing on the cake, 528 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 3: and it's a great legacy of the man. 529 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 4: But he's voting. 530 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 3: It was not because well he was a great player 531 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 3: and then he was a really popular announcer. No great player, 532 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 3: that's why he got in. 533 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he had seven touchdowns in his career, 534 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: which is pretty good for a defensive player, which is 535 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: kind of like in one of the earlier shows that 536 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: we did. You know Tom Landry's name is on this list. 537 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: He didn't make it for being a coach. He was 538 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: a great defensive player for the New York Giants. So 539 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: once a Giant, always a giant, right. It's a Wellington maraphrase. Joe, 540 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about mister Marra and the 541 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: presence that you felt with him, be so supportive of 542 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: the team but never getting in the way. 543 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 5: Thing for me with miss Merrow is this right here. 544 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 5: First thing he said to me, he says, you know 545 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 5: why I like you so much? Young man? Respectful you 546 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 5: underssay you came from a good family. I've met your mother, 547 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 5: I've met your dad. They're wonderful people. You should reflect 548 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 5: that every time you go out on the field because 549 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 5: you're a New York Giant. So the second thing I 550 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 5: want you to remember is this right here. They are 551 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 5: proud of you. Don't embarrass them. And so the last 552 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 5: thing I want you to do is remember you're a 553 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 5: New York Giant, and you make sure you play like 554 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 5: you're a New York Giant every time you're in the field. 555 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 5: Don't ever give anybody a chance. And you know, all 556 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 5: he had to do is just look at me. It 557 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 5: made me feel good about myself because he believed in me, 558 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 5: and that meant something to me as a player. 559 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: And he was very supportive after every game, right and 560 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: lose your draw, not storming out to a private plane 561 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: in there with you guys, yep, Chris, what about for you? 562 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 6: Well, for me, it's a little different. I mean I've 563 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 6: heard probably thirty people you know, have that same recollection. 564 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 6: I mean, mister Mary passed away my second year here, 565 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 6: so you know, but I do remember him bringing, especially 566 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 6: that two thousand and four years, bringing his chair out 567 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 6: and he'd sit specifically near the offensive line. He was 568 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 6: there and he stationed positioned himself to watch what we 569 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 6: were doing. Obviously at that time it was kind of 570 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 6: a position that had a bad reputation in the league, 571 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 6: one of the worst in the league as labeled. So 572 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 6: you know, Pat flerd our offensive line coach at the 573 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 6: time would always bring that to our attention. The eyes 574 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 6: were always on us, and they were powerful eyes. 575 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: Joe and Yurier. 576 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: He did a lot of walking and walked around that 577 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: practice field, but he always did have a soft spot 578 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: for that offensive line play. 579 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 5: He liked the guys and the thing about it was 580 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,479 Speaker 5: he looked at Brad Benson, he looked at Carl Nelson, 581 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 5: and he said to them, says, guys, you are the 582 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 5: pillars or what we have. He says, your guard, my 583 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 5: two guards. I gotta work with these guys. These are 584 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 5: the guys you had Billy Yard and you had you 585 00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 5: know yet Chris, and you knew there were there Burt 586 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 5: he came in and you know we hit Kevin then 587 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 5: the before, but Dan mc burt, it slidified that opposite 588 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 5: of line. Made it easier for me to do my job, 589 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 5: made it easier for MAURICEA to do his job. And 590 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 5: this guy's protected. Peel sims and trust me. Feel with 591 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 5: these guys. He says, guys, I need a second more 592 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 5: And the guys said, okay, we can get you there 593 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 5: and trust me. When they did that, we were able 594 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 5: to be successful. 595 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 2: Did Eli ever ask for a second. 596 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 7: More, I don't think you said anything. 597 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 6: You know, he could have just said give me a 598 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 6: second against San Francisco on twenty eleven, because that's he 599 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 6: didn't even. 600 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 2: Get that, Chris. 601 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: Once a Giant, always a Giant means a lot when 602 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: you hear that phrase and know it's a mister marraphrase. 603 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: What is your first recollection or your first feeling that 604 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: you get? Both of you have these ring of honor 605 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: jackets on pretty special stuff. But to know that forever, 606 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: no matter where you go, no matter what you do, 607 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: you'll always be considered family. 608 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 6: I mean, we're sitting here today and actually couldn't hold 609 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 6: more true as I just actually just started my job 610 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 6: over here with the Giants, so my second job. So 611 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 6: it's it's for them to bring me back and give 612 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 6: me another opportunity in another field of the game that 613 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 6: I want to pursue. You know, it's not like we 614 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 6: had been disconnected for ten years either. I'm always back 615 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 6: for games and appearances, you know. But once a Giant, 616 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 6: Always Giant carries forward to the community as well, and 617 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 6: just kind of the connection with the fans. 618 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 7: That will always be there. 619 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 10: You know. 620 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 6: They're thirsty for eras like we had, and I think 621 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 6: that's just around the corner. So today's an exciting day 622 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 6: for me as I just raced over here from the 623 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 6: from the practice facility, and I hope to be there 624 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 6: for many years. 625 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: Obviously, super Bowls are the most memorable moment you got 626 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: your two rings on, Joe. Is there a game that's 627 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: near and dear to your heart that's not a Super Bowl? 628 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: Is there is there one where you just say to yourself, 629 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: you know that one is. That's a sweet one for me. 630 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: That's that's one that I'll always tuck away and think about. 631 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 5: Pittsburgh ten eighty five. The free safety for them was 632 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 5: a guy named Rick Woods. He went to Boise State. 633 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 5: Tell me before the game, I'm gonna lay you out 634 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 5: and Donny Shell is gonna lay you out. I go 635 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 5: like this, I go, I says, now, realize you can't 636 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 5: tackle me. He goes, what do you mean? I can't tackle? 637 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 5: I says, Rick, the whole time we were in down 638 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 5: at the Pro down, at the Blue Gray Game, you 639 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 5: could never tackle me. He goes, Joe, I'm gonna lay 640 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 5: you out today and I go, okay, we'll see what happens. Okay, 641 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 5: So I'm running the draw. I cut back. There he 642 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 5: is in the hole. He tackles my shoe. 643 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 4: I'm still running. 644 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 5: I run past Donny Shell and running the end zone. 645 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 5: Get my shoe back. Come to the side. I said, Rick, 646 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 5: I told you, I told you, and he goes, Damn. 647 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 5: I didn't think you had that kind of a bill. 648 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 5: I go, I said, you were in my roommate. You 649 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 5: didn't think you knew that some things mob. 650 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 2: How about for you, Chris? I mean, is there one moment. 651 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 6: I think the two thousand and eight Carolina Panther game 652 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 6: here the winner gets the number one seed in as playoffs, 653 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 6: and we had over three hundred yards rushing. You know, 654 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 6: it was the overtime win where we ended with that 655 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 6: first and goal from the two and Brandon drives, you know, 656 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 6: the whole pile in the end zone for the touchdown. Again, 657 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 6: it was just honestly, I've probably gone back and watched 658 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 6: it maybe five to ten times since I've been retired, 659 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 6: just because and I still get chills just hearing the 660 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 6: rules of the stadium on the TV copy. But that 661 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 6: was just a great football game and it meant a lot, 662 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 6: and like I said, it gave us a chance to 663 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 6: play at home. 664 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 7: Number one seed. 665 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 6: We won't talk about what happened that year in the playoffs, 666 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 6: but we that was a hell of a game and 667 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 6: like to run the ball like we did against that defense. 668 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 7: That game was a lot of fundee. 669 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 3: That's why it's a good thing these guys are together, 670 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 3: because they're the same. You did your job so he 671 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 3: could do his job. You know what I mean, it's 672 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 3: the same, you know. I mean, I mean one thing 673 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 3: I have to ask. You had two one hundred and 674 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 3: eighty one yard games in a row in eighty six, right, yes, 675 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 3: against what the Cowboys and Washington. Yes, Now, did you 676 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 3: know in the second one that you had exactly won 677 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 3: eighty one? I mean no, I mean it was so bizarre. 678 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 3: You had one eighty one exactly in both games in Paul. 679 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 5: See, here's the funny thing about they think they're back 680 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 5: to back. Yeah, thinking to myself, both the same thing. Yeah, 681 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 5: And I didn't realize it until I looked at it 682 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 5: and somebody said, too, you realize you had the same 683 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 5: amount of yards. I said, I didn't know anything about that. 684 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 5: It just weird, I guess. 685 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 3: I mean, most players don't have one eighty one in 686 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 3: one game in their career. But I'm sure after those 687 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 3: games you credited your offensive line. 688 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 4: I'm sure you did. That's what you always did. 689 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 5: When we would go to you, Chris. 690 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 3: And say, you know, you guys ran ram and you'd say, well, 691 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 3: Tiki had a great game, Brandon had a great game. 692 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 4: That was all a mod. 693 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 3: You know, it was the same. You guys were saying 694 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 3: the same thing, but just reversed, you know, you weren't 695 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 3: you know, I don't know any time you ever said, Chris, 696 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 3: well we were great today, weren't we Our referensive line 697 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 3: was great. I mean, you know sometimes when you had 698 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 3: a lot of yards, you were proud we didn't give 699 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 3: up sacks. But it was Teeki, it was Brandon, it 700 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 3: was a mod. It was another player. And with you, Joe, 701 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 3: it was well, they just opened the holes for me, 702 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So it's you know, that's 703 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 3: why you guys have rings, you know, because that's the teamwork. 704 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: Mutual respect, right, Yeah, different areas, all right. So just 705 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: kind of in bringing this all together here, you got 706 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: your Ring of Honor jackets on. You both have rings 707 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: as Super Bowl champions. Now to be considered one of 708 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: the top one hundred greatest players, in the history of 709 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: this storied franchise, as you've reflected upon it, does it 710 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: make your emotion a little bit? 711 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 5: After I spoke to you the first time, I cried. 712 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 5: I told everybody in my family the same thing. I said, 713 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 5: you know what, I am one of the greatest giants 714 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 5: every play And it was hard not to say that 715 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 5: in hell loud because but I think about this. Somebody 716 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 5: told me I was never gonna play college football. I 717 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 5: was never never going to play in the NFL. Nobody 718 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 5: believed them. You're five foot seven, you weigh one hundred 719 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 5: and ninety three pounds, and they think you can't do this, 720 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 5: And I did it. 721 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 10: I'm proud of that. And when you told me that, 722 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 10: I literally cried, Bob, because that's what I felt at 723 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 10: the time, because somebody had told me a long time ago, 724 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 10: You're never going to a mount to anything. One of 725 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 10: my fourth free teachers told me I was never gonna 726 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 10: have a mount to anything. That bothered the hell out 727 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 10: of me. But I sent her a nice note after 728 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 10: the Super Bowl twenty one. I sent her a nice 729 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 10: note that says, yeah, thank. 730 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 2: You, thank you for sharing that. 731 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 6: Chris Well, I told you I got chills when you 732 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 6: called me, and my whole family is celebrate and I 733 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 6: think you know, I'm going to touch on this just 734 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 6: where my number sits, because it's a number that's special 735 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 6: with the Kauflin family is number thirty one, which I'm 736 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 6: sure you guys who have been associated with with the 737 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 6: j Fund knows that was Jay McGill's number. So and 738 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 6: that's the number that you know we see now and 739 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 6: my wife swears to this day she sees the number 740 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 6: thirty one, she thinks of Judy. So you know, for 741 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 6: me to be number thirty one and with the Jay 742 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 6: fun and then obviously my late mother in law, that's 743 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 6: a special number in my family. 744 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 2: Thank you both. 745 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: Congratulations on the honor, well deserved and so happy to 746 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: have you here to talk about it. Paul, thank you 747 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: for taking part in this and helping understand the. 748 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,720 Speaker 2: History of the New York Giants. 749 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: Make sure you stay with us and check out all 750 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: the giant social media platforms as we continue our countdown 751 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: and look back at the top one hundred players in. 752 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 2: The history of the New York Football Giants. 753 00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: For Paul Schwartz, Chris Nie, Joe Morris, and our entire crew, 754 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm Bob Papa, thanks for joining us for this edition 755 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: of the Giants Top one hundred Players presented by bud 756 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: Light