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If you need any fasteners, screws, metal, 10 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 2: anything to help hardware and put things together. 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna fix AJ's mike. 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: But it is the Spring Training Tour and it is 13 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: engineered to buy at fasten All. Were at Google. Go 14 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: to fastenall dot com for more information. And let's check 15 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: out that spring training calendar, which starts today Royals Camp, 16 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: then we hit Guardians Camp tomorrow. We'll be with the 17 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: A's on Thursday, Dodgers Friday. We will have weekend live shows, 18 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 1: so that means Mariners on Saturday, Rangers on Sunday. Will 19 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: go over the rest of the schedule as we continue 20 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: the schedule set just for those that are listening podwise, 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: if in your car, I'm just not going to read 22 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: twenty five teams going through this month and then next 23 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: month as well, so just make sure you check it out. 24 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: At some point we'll post it on socials as well 25 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: for you to take a look. Okay, let's get right 26 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: to Ken Big News Today special segment at the top. 27 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: Here the Inside Scoop with Ken Rosenthal breaking news this morning, 28 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: Tony Clark is going to step down as leader of 29 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: the Players Union. Ken, you broke the story along with 30 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: Evandralic and Andy McCullough in the Athletic. I encourage everyone 31 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: to keep checking out that story because it's updating. But 32 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: what can you tell us about what you initially learned 33 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: and how it's updated. 34 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 4: Okay, so you asked me what we first learned, and 35 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 4: we first learned only that Tony Clark was expected to 36 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 4: resign as head of the MLBPA. We still don't know 37 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 4: the exact particulars, but we just updated our story, and 38 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 4: what we said in the story is that Clark was 39 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 4: facing growing concerns from players that the Executive Cup Subcommittee 40 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 4: that's composed of eight players, eight prominent players who kind 41 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 4: of are the big time body in the union. That 42 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 4: executive subcommittee had been in contact with federal officials from 43 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 4: the FBI the Department of Justice, and evidently something happened 44 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 4: in the last twenty four hours or so where things changed. 45 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 4: The union was expected to have a meeting and scheduled 46 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 4: to have a meeting with the Cleveland Guardians today. That 47 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 4: meeting suddenly was canceled last night. That is what got 48 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 4: everyone's radar up. And of course this is developing, as 49 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 4: you said, Scott, so we don't know all the particulars yet. 50 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,839 Speaker 4: We don't know what this means regarding the FBI investigation 51 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 4: into Clark and the union that was regarding licensing money 52 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 4: and all of that. I'm sure we will know more shortly, 53 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 4: and then of course we will talk about what this 54 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 4: might mean for the Collective Bargating Agreement going forward. The 55 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 4: CBA expires December first. We were all anticipating a lockout. 56 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 4: That part doesn't change. 57 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 2: Ken For the people that don't know, can you explain 58 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,119 Speaker 2: a little bit what you mean, just just to give 59 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: people a little bit of background into the investigation that 60 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: you talked about and stuff like that, just so people 61 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: have an idea of kind of what this is, what 62 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: started Maybe all this, We honestly don't know but what 63 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: that means. 64 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 4: This investigation, I don't exactly remember when it started aj 65 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 4: but it was into both the MLBPA and the NFLPA, 66 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 4: and there were allegations of some financial impropriety regarding licensing money. 67 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 4: And I don't know exactly the particulars myself. I haven't 68 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 4: been up on that, but that is what was going 69 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 4: on now. For the longest time, what people with the 70 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 4: union were saying and agents were saying, is that they 71 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 4: didn't expect this to lead anywhere, that Clark hadn't done 72 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 4: anything wrong, etc. But obviously something happened here. And again 73 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 4: we don't know aj the exact particulars, but for players 74 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 4: to go to Clark or at least raise these concerns 75 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 4: with Clark, at some point he just decided I'm not 76 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 4: going to be a distraction here. I'm going to do 77 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 4: what is best for the union and step down. At 78 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 4: some point came in the last twenty four hours or so. 79 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 4: So again I don't want to get too far into 80 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 4: speculating what happened, but at the same time, clearly something 81 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 4: went amiss here. Now I don't know how much it 82 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 4: regards or how much it stems from the investigation. I 83 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 4: don't know if it's something else. These are things that 84 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 4: we will learn in the coming hours and days. 85 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 5: What's next for the Players' Association. What's what's the next 86 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 5: step in the sense of you know, this is new news. 87 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 5: So obviously they haven't made a change yet, but what 88 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 5: is their next process to get a new executive director 89 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 5: or to just continue without Tony. 90 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 4: They're meeting today and obviously they need a new executive director. 91 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 4: And when I say they are meeting, the union's board, 92 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 4: the executive subcommittee is meeting. My expectation is that they 93 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 4: will simply name the lead negotiator, negotiator, Bruce Meyer, the 94 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 4: new executive director of the union. It's the easiest thing 95 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 4: for them to do in this critical year of bargaining. 96 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 4: It is probably the obvious course. Now I don't know 97 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 4: that for a fact. It's speculating, but at the same time, 98 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 4: it would seem that's the way to go here. Now 99 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 4: they do have to name someone permanently. You can see 100 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 4: they're going to have an interim leader and that person 101 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 4: will be chosen and then at some point they'll choose 102 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,799 Speaker 4: a permanent leader. And as Brent Suter told Sam Blum 103 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 4: of the athletic. We're not going to get a search going. 104 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 6: There's bargaining here. 105 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,559 Speaker 4: We're going to have it an interim and keep everything 106 00:05:58,560 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 4: as stable as we can this year. 107 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 3: And that is why I'm saying Bruce Meyer is. 108 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 4: Likely to be the guy at least until this agreement 109 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 4: is done or not done. He's going to be the guy, 110 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 4: it would seem, and then they'll have to figure some 111 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 4: things out. I'm sure they'll have to figure some other 112 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 4: things out too as we go along here. This is 113 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 4: an incredibly jarring development for the union. And I know 114 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 4: fans are asking, and I'm getting asked this by a lot, 115 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 4: even by people in the game. Will this help or 116 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 4: hurt the chances of a workstopage not occurring? And to me, 117 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 4: it's not going to necessarily help. The owners are going 118 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 4: to do what they're going to do. The players are 119 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 4: going to react how they're going to react. Tony Clark 120 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 4: was not simply the only person in the union saying 121 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 4: we don't want a salary cap. It's the entire union 122 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 4: saying that. So clearly, when you have your leadership in disarray, 123 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 4: that's a problem. No one would deny that. But at 124 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 4: the same time, do I expect the union's positions to 125 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 4: change at all. 126 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 6: No, I do not. 127 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 5: All right, we got the Warby Parkers. I got the Raiders, 128 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 5: but one thing I upgraded to polarized. 129 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 6: Sorry about it. 130 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,119 Speaker 7: Yeah, these are good not only for wearing, but also 131 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 7: out in the sun. When I become that baseball coach 132 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 7: I always want to be with my kids. I got 133 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 7: the Hatchers. They're darker, a little bit wider for my face. 134 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 7: They fit perfect, They're comfortable. 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We saw a suitor come out, Marcus Simons 155 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 2: come out, and both have said we had no idea. 156 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: We learned on Instagram or we learned from Ken Rosenthal 157 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 2: and Evan Dreulk when they posted this for the Athletic. 158 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 2: So how I mean, just explain the magnitude of how 159 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 2: shocking that this is. That in a negotiating year, the 160 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 2: first day when the Players Association goes around and meets 161 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 2: with the teams, which people at home, they go around 162 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: to meet with each team in spring training, they usually 163 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: hand out your licensing checks. Now this year they're probably 164 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: withholding almost all of it because of the ongoing labor 165 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: strife that could air could not happen, just so they 166 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: have like a war chest developed. Just explain the magnitude 167 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: this because I even went on X and was like, 168 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: holy crap, this is a huge deal, especially with the 169 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: timing of it. So explain just how large this is. 170 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 4: It's large, and it's especially large, as I said, because 171 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 4: of the timing aga we are months away from where 172 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 4: the negotiations would probably begin in earnest and when the 173 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 4: union loses its leader. Think of it from MLB's perspective, 174 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 4: if Rob Manford suddenly stepped down, it's kind of the 175 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 4: equivalent of that. Now that said, it's going to be 176 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 4: really interesting to see how the union reacts. And I 177 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 4: am sure and Brent Suter said this this morning, and 178 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 4: others are going to say this as well, that they 179 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 4: feel they're going to come out of this stronger, that 180 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 4: they will somehow unite and kind of reinforce to each 181 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 4: other what this is all about for them. Again, that's true. 182 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 4: I'm sure it is true that they will talk like that, 183 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 4: and they may even believe that. But when you have 184 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 4: your leadership in disarray, there's no question that it is 185 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 4: a problem, and that is. 186 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 6: Where they are. 187 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 4: They've got to get that figured out first. I imagine 188 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 4: they will in relatively short order. But a JO when 189 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 4: you're asking how big this is, there's no question it's big, 190 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 4: and it's true. Also, as you mentioned that players were 191 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 4: shocked and people were shocked by this. Today this was 192 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 4: a stunning development because no one really did see it coming. 193 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 4: We've known he was under investigation by the FBI, that 194 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 4: has been out there for quite some time now, but 195 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 4: it did not seem, at least from the outside, that 196 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 4: the investigation was proceeding in a meaningful fashion to the 197 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 4: point where he would be the subject of an indictment. 198 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 4: There has not been an indictment issued, So again, I 199 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 4: want to stress this. I'm not exactly sure what happened here, 200 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 4: but I will repeat he was facing growing concerns from players, 201 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 4: and the players have been in contact their executive subcommittee 202 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 4: with federal officials. Something came to a head. 203 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 5: What is Major League Baseball's view of Bruce Meyer as 204 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 5: a negotiator? Is it a contentious view? Is it something 205 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 5: that if he steps into this role he was a 206 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 5: negotiator in the last CBA, But if he steps into 207 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 5: this role as interim or whatever, is this a good 208 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 5: relationship or is it a little butting of heads? 209 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 3: Butting of heads? 210 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 4: I don't know that MLB loves negotiating with Bruce Meyer, 211 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 4: and I don't know that Bruce Meyer loves negotiating with MLB. 212 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 3: And it was a tough negotiation. 213 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 4: The last time, and if you remember, the Executive subcommittee 214 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 4: voted to reject that deal again, that's that eight player 215 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 4: committee that kind of stands at the head of the union, 216 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 4: and then the general player population voted to approve it. 217 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 4: Bruce Meyer is going to represent their interests, I'm sure, 218 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 4: one way or the other. 219 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 3: And he is a tough negotiator. That is his job 220 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 3: to be a really tough negotiator. 221 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 4: So I don't know that MLB sees him as someone 222 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 4: who is going to be easy to deal with. 223 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 3: I would say it's just the opposite. 224 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 6: Ken. 225 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: I know that everyone's coming out saying it's not going 226 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 2: to change anything. He wasn't the only guy on it, 227 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 2: but it has to change something, right. It still has 228 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: to change something right. I know they're gonna Brussell. Bruce 229 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 2: has been doing a lot of the negotiating and a 230 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: lot of the people under Tony or staying the same. 231 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: But anytime it would be I can't even explain this 232 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: to people on home, Like Michael Wiener was the guy 233 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: before Tony Clark. He had Don Fear and then you 234 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: had Michael Wiener. Right, Michael Wiener passed away from brain cancer, 235 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: which is a horrible story. Tony took over, and those 236 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: were shocking. When Don Fear stepped down was shocking, Michael Wiener, 237 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 2: than Tony Clark takes over. Now, we don't know in 238 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: a negotiating year. I just can't explain how important. And 239 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 2: you can say, oh, it's not gonna change anything. It's 240 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: changing something, Okay, So that's it. That's my comment. This 241 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: sucks for the It sucks for the Players Association because now, 242 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 2: in a time when they should be more united than ever, 243 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: not only are they fighting a battle on the pr 244 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: they're fighting a battle against the owners. Now they have 245 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: to find a new leader. So there's just a lot 246 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 2: happening in a time when you're supposed to be like this. 247 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 6: Hey, there's no question. Now, is it possible they do 248 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 6: come out better for it? 249 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 4: If Tony Clark was doing things that were unethical, illegal, 250 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 4: whatever the case might be, of course it is, and 251 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 4: of course that could ultimately lead them to a better place, 252 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 4: there's no doubt about that. But at the same time, 253 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 4: we don't know exactly what was going on. And you're right, 254 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 4: they are scrambling now, and they're scrambling at a time 255 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 4: when they should not be scrambling. 256 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 6: Now. 257 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 4: They also have been aware of this investigation for months. 258 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 4: As I said, the Executive Subcommittee was in contact with 259 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 4: federal officials, So from that perspective, they could not have 260 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 4: been that surprised. They certainly were surprised by the timing. 261 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 4: But it's not as if this is something that came 262 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 4: out of nowhere. That investigation has been going on. We've 263 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 4: all been aware of that. It's just that we were 264 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 4: not aware that this was going to come to a 265 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 4: head anytime soon. So, AJ, You're absolutely right. And as 266 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 4: I said before, and I'll repeat it again, this is 267 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 4: the equivalent of Manford stepping down from the owner's side, 268 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 4: from Major League Baseball side. Tony Clark was the head 269 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 4: of the union. There's no sugarcoating that that's who he 270 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 4: is and was. So again, players are meeting later today. 271 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 4: There's going to be more to come with this. But 272 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 4: the only thing I would caution fans and people about 273 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 4: is the idea that somehow this is going to make 274 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 4: a lockout less likely. No, a lockout is coming. How 275 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 4: this affects the player's views, I'm not sure that really 276 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 4: will be impacted either, because, simply put, the players are 277 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 4: fairly strong, at least right now, as the owners are 278 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 4: fairly strong at least right now in where they are 279 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 4: now ultimately without their leader. How does that all play out? 280 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 6: We'll see. 281 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 5: I saw the end of Donald Fear's time. I saw 282 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 5: the short period that Michael Wiener was there, the way 283 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 5: that they spoke, the way the lawyers. It was my 284 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 5: first introduction into it. Then I played pretty much through 285 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 5: Tony's entire time as executive director. How are we going 286 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 5: to look back at his time as executive director of 287 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 5: the Union successful? I'm sure we'll see where this ends 288 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 5: up going this time. 289 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 4: Well, this is going to be his legacy, or at 290 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 4: least part of it. What happened here and is happening 291 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 4: here today. That he ultimately stepped down for reasons that 292 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 4: we will find out about in short order. I don't 293 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 4: know that he will be viewed in retrospect as a 294 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 4: great leader of the union. Don Fear was a great 295 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 4: leader of the union. Michael Wiener was a great leader 296 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 4: until he got sick. His last CBA was not as 297 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 4: good as some of the others had been. Tony Clark 298 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 4: presided over a couple of cbas if I'm not mistaken, 299 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 4: that were criticized heavily. 300 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 6: The last one. 301 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 3: I thought they did okay, but. 302 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 4: There's some things that they aren't getting back and haven't 303 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 4: gotten back. So Eric, you're asking me this at a 304 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 4: time when the story is still kind of the and 305 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 4: I don't really have a great feel yet for how 306 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 4: he'll be regarded. But someone mentioned to me this morning 307 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 4: that this, this resignation, this sequence of events will be 308 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 4: part of his legacy, part of his enduring legacy, and 309 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 4: that ultimately might be what defines his time with the Union. 310 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 3: We will see. 311 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: Ken just a couple more at the finish line here, 312 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: because we also did get Trek Scooble chatting at Tiger's 313 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: camp kind of alluding to it. Seemed like how he said, 314 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: Tony's been the face the PA in terms of negotiating. 315 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: I'm still as confident ever in Bruce and everyone else 316 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: we've got behind him again, kind of talking as if 317 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: they're going to make Bruce Meyer the next guy in charge. 318 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 3: So two more here at the finish line. 319 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: One is do you think that there's any concern that 320 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: if Tony Clark, you know, eventually gets in trouble for 321 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: doing something that hurt the players Union, that they need 322 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: to figure out a better strategy going forward of I 323 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: don't know, checks and balances or just making sure that 324 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: something like this doesn't happen, because we've seen this happen 325 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: in other year unions lately too. 326 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 4: Yes, there is definitely, I would say that feeling among 327 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 4: players right now that they needed to take care of 328 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 4: some things, they needed to find some things out, they 329 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 4: need to go in a more in a different direction 330 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 4: going forward. And from that perspective, if indeed they learned 331 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 4: from this and if indeed there are some things that 332 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 4: they can clean up correct whatever the case might be, 333 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 4: then yes, it ultimately will be a positive. 334 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: Can appreciate the time. We'll bring it to the players 335 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: here for the rest, you can get back to your thing. 336 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 3: Everyone. 337 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: Please check out The Athletic and Ken's article as it'll 338 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: get updated, probably again as we learn more about this story. 339 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 3: Ken, thank you appreciate it. 340 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 6: Thanks guys. Yeah, that's what he said. 341 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 3: That's what he said. 342 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 6: That's what he said. 343 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 3: That's what he said. Hey, that's what he said. 344 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: Is engineered by fast and all where industry beats innovation. 345 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 3: Oh, we've got good ones today. 346 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: So we're going to start with Aaron Judge bringing up 347 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: some pointed comments about the offseason for the Yankees and 348 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: how he was pissed and then it took a turn, 349 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: so judge, E take it away. 350 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 3: It was. It was brutal. 351 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 8: You know, I'm like, I see a lot of free 352 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 8: agents out there. I see a lot of guys that, 353 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 8: you know, like the Bellingers, Grisham's, Goldschmid's like, you know, 354 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 8: let's sign these guys right now and then start adding 355 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 8: more pieces, you know, because I'm seeing other teams around 356 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 8: the league get better, They're making trades, they're signing big 357 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 8: prospects or big players, and you know, we kind of 358 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 8: we're sitting there for a while, you know, kind of 359 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 8: making smaller moves. But you know, it was it was 360 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 8: tough dur in the beginning. But I think once we 361 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 8: solidify getting Billinger back, you know, we got Trent being 362 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 8: our centerfielder, be able toad off guy for another year, 363 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 8: and then you had a guy like Goldie some of 364 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 8: the back end, you know, bullpen pieces that we've been doing. 365 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 8: I think I think we're being a good spot. But 366 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 8: early on it was pretty pretty tough to watch. I'm like, man, 367 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 8: we're the We're the New York Yankees. You know, let's 368 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 8: go out there and get the right people, get the 369 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 8: right pieces to go out there and and finish this 370 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 8: thing off because we've got to We've got a special 371 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 8: group of players here. We've got a good core, good 372 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 8: young cores. So it was frustrating, but I think we're 373 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 8: right were we need to be. 374 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 3: Did you express any of that to them? 375 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, But but they took care of business, and 376 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 9: I wished my opinion about a couple of guys, and 377 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 9: you know, Bellinger being one of the guys that he 378 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 9: just adds a dynamic to this team that you know, 379 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 9: we've been missing for quite a few years. 380 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 3: So excited, you know, excited he's back. Wow. 381 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: Usually don't get that from him. He was bringing it. 382 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: And then they even asked on the follow up if 383 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: he made his opinions known, and he did. I'm proud 384 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: of him. I mean, Pratt, you can go first just 385 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: because you played with him. I mean, you know how 386 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: judge he is. He usually doesn't give you much publicly, 387 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: but he was like, yeah, I was pissed. I mean, 388 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: my prime bring it. But then he was happy when 389 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 1: we got to the end of the offseason. I mean, 390 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: Yankee fans feel like they're running a similar position player 391 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: group back. But I do want to make that part 392 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: clear because I think some of the headlines were like 393 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: Judge pissed about off season. 394 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 3: No, no, no, you gotta. 395 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: Watch the whole clip. That's why we played the whole clip. 396 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: He was pissed in the beginning, voiced his concerns. They 397 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: were like, we're good, and then they did what he 398 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: felt was satisfactory. 399 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 3: Up hold on crats. We got the mute action again. 400 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 3: We got gremlins, all right, aj you got. 401 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 2: I mean, listen, good for a Judge saying this. But 402 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 2: at the end, again, like you said, Scott, he was 403 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 2: happy they brought all the boys back together. They brought 404 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 2: Bellinger back, and hey, they'll make another run with the 405 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 2: squad ad Garrett Cole, Bill Penn's a little bit different 406 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 2: than it was at the start last year. But hey, Darren, 407 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 2: Judge Gotwady wanted, he got Bellinger back, he got Goldtman back, 408 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 2: and we'll see what this team can do with another 409 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: year under their belt. 410 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: Do you like that a player makes a phone call 411 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: like that? And do you think that it matters. 412 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 2: Depends on who the player is. Depends on who the 413 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 2: player is. If your twenty six guy calls the owner 414 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 2: of the GM it doesn't matter that much. But when 415 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 2: someone like Aaron Judges won a bunch of MVPs and 416 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 2: led the league in homers and done all these things, 417 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: it matters. 418 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 3: All right, crats, I want to try otherwise we'll reset 419 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 3: you in a second. Yeah, you're definitely trying. 420 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 5: The fact that knowing Aaron Judge, not as a public figure, 421 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 5: as a teammate gives me a different view of him. 422 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 5: You know, you don't hear this from him, but that 423 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,719 Speaker 5: that was like, honest, normal, every day Aaron Judge like 424 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 5: he's one of the guys. He wants the team to 425 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 5: be the best they can possibly be. Exactly what he said. 426 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 6: Was so true were the New York Yankees. 427 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 5: And he was not saying people who are like, oh 428 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 5: he hates the moves that were made. It's not at 429 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 5: all what he said. He hated the fact that there 430 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 5: was dudes going off the board. 431 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 6: That was like, like. 432 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 5: I could help us, what other guys, what other guys 433 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 5: can we get to help us? Like he's looking, he's 434 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 5: looking through a lens of how can the Yankees be 435 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 5: the best it can possibly be? When I'm on the team. 436 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 5: And I kind of even hinted at He's like, well, 437 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 5: they got Tran grishon for another year. That's you know, 438 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 5: he would have probably liked somebody that's going to be 439 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 5: there for the next four years while he's still there 440 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 5: for the next four years. 441 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 6: But I think. 442 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 5: Cashman's done a really good job through Aaron Judge's tenure 443 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 5: of trying to find guys that they feel are valuable and. 444 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 6: Then going to get them. 445 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 5: This offseason, it just wasn't that big, never been a 446 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 5: Yankee type of signing for them, But they did bring 447 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 5: back a guy who is a huge piece and I 448 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 5: think was one of the most versatile pieces in the 449 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 5: free agent market, and Cody Billinger. 450 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you sum it all up and it seems 451 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: like he's okay. 452 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 3: Now. 453 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: I like that he's comfortable in his spot so he 454 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: can go right back to the Yanks and be like, hey, 455 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: what are we doing. Do I think it actually made 456 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: a difference. 457 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 3: No. 458 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: I think they had their game plan in place, and 459 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: it takes time to sign these guys, and by the 460 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 1: end of the off season they got to what they 461 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: wanted with Bellinger, who obviously took a while. It took 462 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 1: almost the entire offseason to figure that out, but they did, and. 463 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 6: He could be nervous. 464 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 5: He could be nervous like he was honest, he could 465 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 5: have been nervous during that time, Like, holy crap, I 466 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 5: just see because right before that, you see Bregman. 467 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 6: He goes right before that. 468 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 5: Leave Boston and go to Chicago. 469 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 6: He's like, we don't. 470 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 5: Get Bellinger, who are we going to get? So yeah, 471 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 5: I love that he's being honest. He was a little 472 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 5: nervous at a certain. 473 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: Point, and now here we are Judge back in camp. 474 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: Looks like also, just real quick, last thing on the Yanks. 475 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: I mean, Cole might pitch in some spring training games. 476 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,479 Speaker 1: He's not going to start the season, but he might 477 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: get some action later in spring right on. Looks like 478 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: he's on a good pay so they might quickly have 479 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: a really nice rotation in place. 480 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 3: That was I think the biggest concern. 481 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone has regular season concerns with this 482 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: team on offense, but with the pitching staff. You're like, hey, 483 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: how many guys are they going to be down early 484 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: on in the year. It sounds like it won't be 485 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: too bad for too long. Things can change. Spring training 486 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 1: just started, but good to put that out there, all right, 487 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: So that's what he said, and it's engineered by Fastenal. 488 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: Fastenal Industrial Supplies, Innovative Solutions. Want to learn more, visit 489 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: Fastenal dot com. Last big news story of the day 490 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: that would often lead the show, there's been a lot 491 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 1: of news today. The Twins hope they're being cautious with 492 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: Pablo Lopez, who exited his Live BP early with elbow soreness. 493 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: Derek Shelton, their manager, said Lopez would go for an MRI. 494 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: That's the tweet from Dan Hayes. I will add to 495 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: that with Aaron Gleeman's tweet from a few hours ago. 496 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: He said Pablo Lopez has a torn elbow ligament. Surgery 497 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: is very much on the table, according to Twins general 498 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: manager Jeremy zol. Gleaman said if surgery is needed, Lopez 499 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: would miss the entire season. AJ this is absolutely potentially 500 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: devastating news for Pablo and for a Twins team that 501 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: I didn't think and most people didn't think, we're going 502 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: to be good. 503 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 3: But I mean, can. 504 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: They survive without their first or second best starter? Right 505 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: it's it's Joe, Ryan. 506 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 2: And Pablo don't survive with him. I don't feel like 507 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 2: we've talked about it. We don't think that they're going 508 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: to be that competitive this year with him. To lose 509 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 2: him though, I me an injury suck. That's an understanding 510 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 2: for Twins, the Twins fans, and the Twins organization and Pablo. 511 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 2: I just feel like this is why, you know, there 512 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: had been trade talks about him and Joe Ryan and 513 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 2: things like that, and in Pablo has to miss a 514 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 2: bunch of time. Man, it's just now it's at least 515 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: another year. Then you got to get him back and 516 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 2: he's got to prove he's healthy. Oh this stinks, man. 517 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 2: But do you know what I feel most of it 518 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 2: for Pablo Lopez because he's such a good guy and 519 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 2: he works his tail off and he's just a great 520 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 2: interview and a great human being. This just sucks for 521 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: just see, guys have to go through this, and I 522 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 2: hope we're hoping for the best, But not sounded like 523 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 2: it's going to be the greatest news. 524 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 5: I would definitely say that could be something else from 525 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 5: this too. Most organizations, you lose the number one or 526 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 5: number two, got to scramble, gotta find out who's on 527 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 5: the free agent market. Does this put the hopes of 528 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 5: winning the amount of games that they wanted to win. 529 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 5: They say they want to still be competitive. You know, 530 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 5: obviously it's my opinion that they're not trying to be competitive. 531 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 5: Does this mean they're like, all right now, completely scrap 532 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 5: it down. We lost one of our top two pitchers 533 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 5: who they could have traded at some point anyway, you know, 534 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 5: Or does this say no, we cannot get rid of 535 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 5: Joe Ryan now because we need somebody he wants every 536 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 5: five days to be that consistent veteran in the rotation. 537 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: Well, they're not trading Joe Ryan yet, they're going to 538 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 1: trade him at the trade deadline because the new. 539 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 2: I agree, you are taking the risk, but he doesn't 540 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 2: get more value. 541 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: I know, but I know you played for the pole Ads. 542 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: But we're like generations down at this point. So now 543 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: it's Tom instead of Joe, and he is running ship 544 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: and he's more involved in it. 545 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 3: I should reset if this was how they were treating things. 546 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: They acted like they were going all in again, but 547 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: they didn't do anything. Tom Polad has openly said again 548 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 1: and again now because he's being more public, I give 549 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: him credit there, but he's like, we were pursuing fram Rivaldez. 550 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: So apparently they were pursuing frem Rivaldez, but nobody else 551 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: even close to that ilk in the free agent game, 552 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 1: so it was just framber or bust apparently. So if 553 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: that's the case, first of all, Lucas Giolito online one, 554 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: any other Starter max sures are online two, you should 555 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: just rack all those because combined they'll cost less than 556 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: frem Rivaldez. But I mean he went on the records 557 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: either I think it was today or yesterday, and they 558 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: the reporting out there is brilliant. You guys know, Dan 559 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: Hayes is great, Iron Gleiman's great. They told him and 560 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: others they told him about the over under for the 561 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: Twins at seventy three and a half, and the owner 562 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: was like, that's. 563 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 3: Ridiculous, is it? 564 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 6: No? I mean. 565 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 3: Probably close to that number, Scott. 566 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 2: Ten guys they treated away. They treated away ten guys 567 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: that were good players last year, so they didn't bring 568 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: in ten. 569 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 5: You guys, we give, we get, we give a we 570 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 5: we give a hard time to teams who don't land 571 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 5: free agents, but they say they're in on them. Part 572 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 5: of that is, like the pole heads need to understand. 573 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 5: You create an environment where players want to go to 574 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 5: you create an environment where you're like, I want to 575 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 5: play with that guy. They had that they had that 576 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 5: they brought in Carlos Kore and then they stopped playing. 577 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 5: They stopped playing in the free agent mar stop spending. 578 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 5: So maybe they were in on Framber. Maybe there was 579 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 5: somebody else we didn't know about, but like the ah, 580 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 5: woe is us, we couldn't get him. Create an environment 581 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 5: of where somebody wants to go and you know what, 582 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 5: the money that you're supposedly going out there to spend 583 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 5: or not spend, they'll accept it because it's a place 584 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 5: where people want to play. 585 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: Hey, we have an MVP candidate that was part of 586 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: the show today in Bobby wit Junior. So we figured, 587 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: let's look at the ALE MVP candidates on the bet 588 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: MGM futures in terms of where the. 589 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 3: Trends are swaying. 590 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: Highest ticket percentage belongs to Roman Anthony, the Red Sox rookie, 591 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: highest handle percentages, and where's the most money flowing, not 592 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: just each particular bet being placed. 593 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 3: That's Judge, So. 594 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: Thirty five percent going to Judge Anthony is the biggest liability, 595 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: and Judge the odds leader at plus two hundred. Look 596 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: at Roman Anthony getting a lot of love. 597 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 5: AJ plus a plus two at plus two thousand. I 598 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 5: can't hear AJ right now, but they'll get him back 599 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 5: plus two thousand. For Roman Anthony, it was it was 600 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 5: enticing for me, that's for sure. But I just put 601 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 5: it down. 602 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 6: He was just on the show. I just put down 603 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 6: plus five hundred. For Bobby Witt. I feel like. 604 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 5: There's the base running aspect that you brought up with him, 605 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 5: like there's some value there that he's always been. He's 606 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 5: always been up there in that conversation, you know, oh, 607 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 5: you know, an incredible year by Aaron Judge. If it 608 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 5: wasn't for him, if he was in the National League, 609 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 5: or if he was in America, whatever it is, Bobby 610 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 5: WIT's always there. I feel like this is the age 611 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 5: the time the team built around him a little bit different. 612 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 6: This is the year Bobby Witt MVP. 613 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,239 Speaker 2: Agreed he was going to be mine. He was going 614 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: to be mine. But here's the problem. I've said that, 615 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 2: and whatever, if cal Rawly didn't win it hitting sixty 616 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 2: homers as a catcher and playing every day getting his 617 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 2: team to the postseason, if Aaron Judge just goes out 618 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 2: and as his normal Aaron, Judge ear, how do you 619 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 2: beat that? And I think Bobby Wick could be a 620 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 2: guy that could could do it. And after talking to 621 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: him and learning about what he's done and seeing him, 622 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 2: I think, you know, moving the fences in whatever. But 623 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 2: his defense is so good, his base running can be 624 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 2: so good. He can hit homers, he can hit for average, 625 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 2: he can do a lot of things. So I think 626 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 2: he has a chance. And he's not even on there, 627 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 2: but Roman Anthony, that's a lot of pressure to put 628 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 2: on a young guy. I think, Judge Wit, you know, 629 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 2: and there'll be someone else from the outside that comes 630 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 2: in and jumps in that conversation. I don't know who 631 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 2: it's going to be because I don't think anybody would 632 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 2: have said it would have been cal Rawley last year, 633 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 2: So there'll be someone else, But yeah, Judge and Witt 634 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 2: would be my two. 635 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: I think it's become such a war game wins above replacement. 636 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: So it does give Bobby a good shot because he's 637 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: in all around right, the defense, the base running, the power, 638 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:06,959 Speaker 1: everything right, you name it. 639 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 3: He's got it all. 640 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: And I think that helps because it's an all encompassing 641 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: stat It certainly helps Judge, but it should help Bobby too. 642 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: So if he has one of those years where it's 643 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: front to back and there's some more pop which could 644 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: happen with the offences moving in, then maybe this is the. 645 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 3: Year for Bobby. 646 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 6: Yeah. 647 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 3: I like that play as well. 648 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: All right, let's look at what's going on in the NHL. 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