1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: Welcome. You are now listening to the Professional Professional. Hey, guys, 2 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: welcome to this week's episode of the PhD Podcast. It's 3 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: your girl, eban A and I am super excited about 4 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: this week's episode. Before we begin, let's do a little housekeeping. 5 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: Please make sure to follow me on Instagram at the 6 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: Professional home Girl at the PhD Podcast, and last but 7 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: not least, at eban a Beauty. 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I 18 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: thought it was only right that I did a recap 19 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: of all of my favorite gems that was dropped from 20 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 1: my previous guests. So I really do hope you guys 21 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: enjoyed this episode because I couldn't stop listening to It 22 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: was so many different gyms that we heard throughout twenty 23 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: nineteen and it was just amazing. 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But it but all that like 29 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: unnecessary shopping, going out, drinking, enow, getting your nail has 30 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: done this that like you're gonna have to come back somehow, 31 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 1: some way if you want to about your journey, like yo, 32 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: you really don't know yourself until like you literally out 33 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: here as a grown as person with no no credit 34 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: and no bank account and no way to be able 35 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 1: to rock it people. So I had depended on Robin 36 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: Peter to pay Paul for so long. But when Peter so, 37 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: it was no way to me was Peter what was 38 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: he was going nothing? There was no Peter to rock. 39 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: So I had to continue to pay Paul simply just 40 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: out of my check and it was really the true 41 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: definition of me learning paycheck. But while I was on bankruptcy, 42 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: I stayed the most money that I was ever ready 43 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: ever able to say, like, I really proof to myself 44 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: that I can do it. And I think that also 45 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: the fact that I filed myself. I was gonna say 46 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: that earlier, but the facts that I found myself, it 47 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: just reminded me that I don't never want to go 48 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: through this ship again. And like, because I don't want 49 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: to never go through this ship again in this process 50 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: under this, I'm gonna make sure I do this and 51 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna handle this ship and get it out behind me. 52 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: I don't never want to even look this way no more. 53 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm done, you know, girl. You know that's one thing 54 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: that I can say I have learned, especially when it 55 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: comes to money. Once you been broke for so long 56 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: and you finally make that, you change your mindset, like, yo, 57 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm not living this life no more. You know you're 58 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: gonna work so hard to never go broke because I can't. 59 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: I can't like living that paycheck to paycheck or trying 60 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: to take money out of here to pay call patres 61 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: Pault and the Rescipes like I can't. It's it's it's 62 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: a lot. And I think that those are the things 63 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: that people, you know, just don't realize. So what is 64 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: your relationship with money now? So now we have a 65 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: love py relationship. Um, so I recognize I have a 66 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: big way, bigger my and set on things, and I 67 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: recognize where I need to go and how I need 68 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: to do things. Um I think that for me, of course, 69 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: I think I'm always gonna hate paying bills. And I 70 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: think that it's like that because right, let me how 71 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: you why you hate paying it? You hate paying it 72 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: because it's not automatic. If you if you set up 73 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: auto pay, like let's say, if your phone mill is 74 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: a hundred dollars and you put out for both of 75 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: your checks to have fifty dollars taken out, you wouldn't 76 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: hate paying your phone mill. You hate paying it because 77 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: you make it a thing. You literally make it a 78 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: thing to where you have to get a link, open 79 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: up your credit card, put in the cards, and pay it. 80 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: And you wouldn't have to do that, and you wouldn't 81 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: feel that way, you know what I mean, if it 82 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: was automatic and it automatically came out. And once you 83 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: get to that stage, that's just that's the ultimate stage, 84 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So that's what I'm trying 85 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: to get I really that's my goal for January nineteen 86 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: is to be at that stage. And I feel like 87 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm on I'm on my way there. Um. I would love, 88 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: definitely like to increase my savings. So I am saving. 89 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: It's something that I feel like I want to do. 90 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: Tempt thums over. I definitely know I'm paying too much 91 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: in rent um. You know, it's a love hate relationship. 92 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: The more the problem is, this is the thing too right. 93 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: And I told listen to my students earlier, it's like, 94 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: you know the problem with knowing more and no one 95 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: better is that you gotta do better. So once you 96 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: know all of this ship, you know all these financial things, 97 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: now you can't just go out and eat and sunk 98 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: up and mess up and really like, you know, just 99 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: make irresponsible decisions. Now. It's like when you're doing that 100 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: before you sap that call, you like, girl, you know 101 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: better than this, you know. And I think that that 102 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: that sort of response to the crown is heavy. That 103 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: responsibility weighs heavy on you, you know. So I think 104 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: I'm in that stage right now where I'm fighting between 105 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: you know, being still being true to me, being you know, 106 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: flock it on the block and still you know, Yo, 107 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: it was so funny because I was like, um, I 108 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: was listening to Gary V and he was like, the 109 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: worst thing that people do is trying to keep up 110 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: with the jones Is. Somebody tell me who the funk 111 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: these Joneses are and how do I kill them? I 112 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: was like, Yo, this guy is, but it's no true, 113 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: Like like who then all these Joneses and why then 114 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: we trying to keep up with them? Like Lida. You know, 115 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: it's so crazy because growing up, like we was talked to, 116 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is in our culture proudness 117 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: definitely a cultural proudness, it's definitely, but I think that 118 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: we got that mixed up right. So no, no doubt. 119 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: As a Brown people, we are flashy, asked people. We 120 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: created jewelry, we created hairstyles, we created all of this ship. 121 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: We like the shine. That's us. It's always gonna be us. 122 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: It's never gonna change. But we was in Africa. We 123 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: was making it out of stones, so us more in 124 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: the style ain't never gonna change. We was braiding here, 125 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: making masks, but I you know what I mean, Like 126 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: we've been doing this doing turbans. But it's so crazy 127 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: because when you see when you see the white people. 128 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: But that's done. We ain't never gonna be that. We 129 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: can't never be that. And that's what and that's what 130 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell us too. That's the last point that 131 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: I really want to leave other people, is we gotta 132 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,119 Speaker 1: stop that. We are never gonna be that. That ain't you, baby, 133 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,799 Speaker 1: You was born to shine. That's who you are. Your 134 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: was paid for, so you was born to put it on, 135 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: no doubt about that. However, I think that some of 136 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: the things that we mistake is that we think that 137 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: it got to come from part of Gucci Louis in 138 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: order for us to shine, and it don't you know 139 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: what I mean? So like we're down the line, he 140 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: got crossed with the what shown in means you know 141 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, yeah, we are proud of people 142 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: and we love them good. It's prought of us and 143 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: it ain't never gonna leave us. However, looking good that 144 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: is very different from having expensive things, you know what 145 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: I mean? And I think that that's the part where 146 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: somewhere down the line, we adapted their ideals of what 147 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: it means to look good, and no, we created what 148 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: it means to look good. They're following us, and we 149 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: have to remember the first. And it's all just for me. 150 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: I didn't really grow up with an example of what 151 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: love looked like. I didn't grow up with women being 152 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: honest and say, hey, enjoy your twinies, no date, have 153 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: a good time, build that self worth within yourself, establish 154 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: yourself as a woman before you uh trying to make 155 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: those connections. Like I really just didn't grow up with that. 156 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: Everything that I formulated was from TV music and that's 157 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: what they was putting. You had to do this, you 158 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: gotta do that and keep a man on his other stuff. 159 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: So if that's all you see and know, and nobody 160 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: even really teaching the things that you should have been 161 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: taught about, you know, like you said, yeah, of course 162 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna go left, going right exactly exactly, you know, 163 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: when I was going out like the worst thing. You know. 164 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: Now I look at things and women are, especially younger 165 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: women are, so I feel more comfortable with their sexuality, 166 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,559 Speaker 1: more comfortable to say no, I'm not accepting this type 167 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: of behavior. I'm not accepting that. And I just and 168 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: I keep talking about it back then like it was 169 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: a hundred years ago. It really wasn't that long ago. 170 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: But there was definitely this pressure and I don't know 171 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: if it was just in our communities or just all 172 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: over with it. This is pressure to to be like, 173 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: you know, this rough rider down and it was just 174 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: it was just that's what it was. Yeah. So when 175 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: he asked you, like, did you initially want to say 176 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: no to donate it? You know, he didn't, he didn't 177 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: even ask. Volunteered. Yeah, I volunteered. And again, hindsight, looking 178 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: back on it, it was just like I realized that, yes, 179 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: there was a part of me that wanted to do 180 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: it because I felt that it was the right thing 181 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: to do. I felt like I cared for him and 182 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: it was just beautiful, you know, Yeah, just beautiful experience 183 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: that we were going to share. But then looking back now, 184 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: there was a small part of me that was trying 185 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: to prove something to him, to everyone, and you know 186 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: what everyone else, you know, because I know somebody was 187 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: My mom said no, did not want me to do it. Um, 188 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: we went, uh, my mom and I went to have 189 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: dinner with him and his dad, and my mom asked 190 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: the hard questions that I was too afraid to ask, 191 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 1: and at the time I was upset with her for 192 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: doing that, but she was just protecting you. Yeah. She 193 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: asked him flat out, what are your intention with my daughter? 194 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: My daughter is doing this for you, Where is this going? 195 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: Where in this relationship going? And he pretty much told her, well, 196 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: we'll see where it goes. And when we left that dinner, 197 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: my mother pulled me aside and said, he will never 198 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: marry you, he will never commit to you. Please don't 199 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: do this. And what did you do? What I mean, 200 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: what didn't make you feel? Because I can only imagine 201 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: you being in your what he was in your late 202 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: almost twenty early twenties. Yeah, I can only imagine being 203 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: this because I mean I was in my men's twenties. 204 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: I used to be like, well, I know what's best 205 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: for me that. And then you have some like your 206 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: mother coming to you and telling you these things, because 207 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: of course she knows what's to come, because she's been 208 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: down that role. She knows life more than you do. 209 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: But you just be so like I'm not listening, Like 210 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: even if my life has depending on like I have 211 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: to prove my point or at least try to. Yeah, 212 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: that's exactly what I was thinking, Like, you don't know 213 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: what you're talking about, you know, I was more upset 214 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: with her that she asked the question and put him 215 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: on the spot to be honest about it than being 216 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: upset about hearing the truth. But even when he was 217 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 1: saying what he said, did it makes me feel away? 218 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know why he didn't register 219 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: It was just like he he, he don't know, he 220 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: he don't know what I know. Even his dad was like, 221 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: you're wrong, like you need to she's doing all of 222 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: this for you, or his dad's like, you should not 223 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: accept it if you know she's not the one, Like 224 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: you're not going to marry it, because for her to 225 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: do something like that for you shows like the ultimate 226 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: love and you're not ready to reciprocate that, so you 227 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: shouldn't accept it. Yeah, So even if dad was like, 228 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: you shouldn't, you shouldn't do this. So how long after 229 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: them day with the four y'all, when was the surgery? 230 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: The surgery was maybe about two months after that. So 231 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: leading up to the surgery, how relationship in between him 232 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: It was actually really good. We spent a lot of 233 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: time together. Uh, and probably for the first time in 234 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: our whole relationship, he was faithful. I think, like the 235 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: closest faith forever. But do you think he was girl? 236 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: Sometimes men only is faith their options, right, I think 237 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: because he couldn't be as mobile as he because of 238 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: the situation, niggas. It's crazy. So fast forward to the 239 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: day before the surgery, what were your thoughts, Like, how 240 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: were you feeling? Like would you really like y'all about 241 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: to really go through this? Like was there any signs? Like, 242 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I know, man, you know what. I'll tell 243 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: you this because you never know. I feel like this 244 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: story it's going because know what it is when you 245 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: go through ship and you beat like in your backup 246 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: is against the wall, and sometimes you'd be like, damn, 247 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: I wonder if anybody who's going through ship, like why 248 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: is this happening to me? So it's like why am 249 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 1: I men is predicting it? Like why? I mean? So, 250 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: it's one of the reasons why I wanted to do 251 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: this podcast because I want to encourage other listeners like, Yo, 252 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: You're not the only person to go through ship like. 253 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: People go through your every day ship like and it 254 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: may not be as dramatic as donating, but it can 255 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: be as hurtful. You know, it could still because pain 256 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: is pain exactly, and it doesn't have to be like 257 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: the physical act of donating. But you can be giving 258 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: too much time to someone. You could be giving too 259 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: much energy to someone. You can be giving too much 260 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: money to be a financial burden, you know, because some 261 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: of these men are financial burdens. Yeah. So sometimes it's 262 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: like it's gonna take a hardship on your one other exactly. 263 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: And for me it was this, But to be honest 264 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: with you, there was other, uh other, there were other 265 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: hurts in that relationship that I had ignored to get 266 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: me to this point, because I do believe that, uh 267 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: if you, God keeps showing you signs until you get it. 268 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: And I had gotten so many signs and I ignored 269 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: them my own youthfulness, my own ignorance. Some some of 270 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: them I chose to ignore, and I just kept ignoring it. 271 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: You know, you're not like a dumb person, like, yeah, 272 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: that's the worst. It's like, I have a relationship with 273 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: our guests and she's not dumb, so but time nobody's 274 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: really dumb. In certain situations, I feel like the good 275 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: things happened to the dumb people. I mean, to think 276 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: about it, there's some women that are in situations where 277 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: they're being abused, and they're smart women, they're capable of 278 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: women and al for some reason they can't let go. 279 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: And that was for me, like I just could not 280 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: let go and it took. Now I'm actually thankful for 281 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: it because that's what it took to get me out 282 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: of that toxic relationship. It was about it was not 283 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: it was not where I needed to be, and it 284 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: was not for me. And instead of I was trying 285 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: to make him into something that would for me and 286 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: he isn't and he never was. So I'm okay with 287 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: it now. So I wish I didn't have to lose 288 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: my kidney to learn that. So are we talking about 289 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: the lessons you learned? I'm pretty sure there's so many 290 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: lessons you learned about yourself, about what you wanted a 291 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: man um So the day of surgery, what happened. So 292 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: the data surgery, I go in and before that, for months, 293 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: they're testing you to tief you're compatible. You're giving you 294 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: like a full I felt a full physical to make 295 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: sure you're healthy enough for it. Wait, nobody and his 296 00:15:54,120 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: family wasn't at girl. Okay, he had them too, simply 297 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: and either one of them offer because exactly that should 298 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: have been like, yeah, so if you want, if you 299 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: want to, Navi gave him the kidney. I don't know 300 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: if one of them would would have stepped up after, 301 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: you know, if there was no one else. I'm not sure. Okay, 302 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: so they could test everything was still going good. The 303 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: relationship was like peach because Nigga want the kidney. Yes, 304 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: I'll never forget. So they separate us right And I 305 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: have to say the hospital, they do a great job 306 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: of giving you opportunities to back out of it. So 307 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: all through the process they keep saying, are you sure 308 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: you want to do this? We could tell him anything. 309 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: If you don't want to do this and you don't 310 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: want to ruin you know, the relationship, We'll just tell 311 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: them you're not compatible. We'll just tell them. You know that, 312 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: they'll they'll give you an out. You think they like 313 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: you do that with God with like girl, I'm giving 314 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: you one more last ship. Yeah. I remember I was 315 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: being prepped for the surgery. I was I was really 316 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: really nervous, but I kind of want to just get 317 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: it over with your family, with you, my mom my mom, 318 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: I know she was pissed y'all the whole time. She 319 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: was just like they hadn't be the hardest thing. She 320 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: was just looking like, first of all, you're about to 321 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: go into you about to have surgery, and you're scared, 322 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: but your mom is your left, like I don't know why, 323 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: why are you doing this? It's like she was hoping 324 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: for the best, but she knew he was. She knew 325 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: he was out of there anyway. She was like, well 326 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: she gotta learn, so what a hard way to so 327 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: I never forget out their perfect extra surgery and they 328 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: separated us and this, uh, this nurse is black. Nurse 329 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: was preparing me. I know she had hold her last. 330 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: While she was preparing me, she was asking questions like, so, 331 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: who are you doing? And she was like, I guess 332 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: she thought it was like a family member. And I 333 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: explained her and she goes, boyfriend, Hey, girl, I wouldn't 334 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: She said that black women are crazy, and I really 335 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: felt like that was a sign from God, Like, girl, 336 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: you know what that's like. You gotta appreciate a black 337 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: woman man because you know that she was right and 338 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,959 Speaker 1: even put a ring on your finger. Girl wouldn't be 339 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: me like she was just going off, you know what? 340 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: Funny in my own ignorance, I don't Rember. She's so mean. 341 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: She just don't know. I'm telling the most story of 342 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: ages when this is done. I really think she was 343 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: put there to give me that final And then God 344 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: was having like girl and I was walking, so they 345 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: called me in and I'm walking to Yeah. I can't 346 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: believe she said that too. She's very blunt, said it 347 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: like you're out of your mind. It was just have 348 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: you ever felt pleasure? Oh? Not not by a penetration, 349 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: so obviously when you receive head and stuff. Yeah, because 350 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: it's not like something that's actually corny. Yeah. The only 351 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: time I climax is by clear it's actions. So um. 352 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: So I think this is so funny because like I've 353 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: been norming my guest for like almost a year now, 354 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: and I was so intrigued by this. So I started 355 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: doing research and I was looking at the girl. I 356 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: found a doctor for you, and I was doing research 357 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: and it was a video on YouTube and we talked 358 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: about this. Um. This woman the doctor like sticked the 359 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: cue tip or something to her and she was going crazy. 360 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: It's crazy because I thought it was just me. I 361 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: was like, damn, something's wrong with me. Great, Like, there's 362 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: a lot of women like that. I didn't really know 363 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: it was a thing until that conversation. Until I saw 364 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: these Cupid I was like, oh, wow, there's really a 365 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: thing that there are women who just don't enjoy sex. Now, 366 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: the woman that was basically crying by a doctor putting 367 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: a cue at my situation is not like that, mind you. 368 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: When I get pap smears, yes, it's the most uncomfortable 369 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: thing ever. And you know, I can stand the pain 370 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: going through sexual intercourse, but it's just like I just 371 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: don't feel anything. It's like there's no sensation down there 372 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: at all. So have you thought about experiencing other partners 373 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: like other women? And the reason why I add because 374 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: I always feel like when I do speak to like 375 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: my lesbian friends, they always tell me like that's how 376 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: I know I'm not into men because the ship hurts. 377 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: It don't feel good. They don't do nothing for me. 378 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: And of course you're anatomy, like you're gonna get wet 379 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: because you're excited. Your body can't help what it likes. 380 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: But it's just like ship, I want to fucking what's 381 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: a nut? Like? Yeah, So I actually did end up 382 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: having sex with a woman, and not because like I 383 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: was going through something or like, you know, forget these man, 384 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: I'm not, but it was actually like a real connection, right. Um, 385 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: just like super quick backstory. In high school, I kind 386 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: of saw myself being attracted to women. Well, I would 387 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: just pay attention to them a lot more. And I 388 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: was like, why am I looking at these girls? I 389 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: was like, why am I like observing that girls like 390 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: I see a pretty good Like, oh she's really pretty. Yeah, 391 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 1: So that's what I thought. So I was like, you know, 392 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: maybe it's because you know, I admire the body of 393 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: a woman because I am a woman. Also, I was 394 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: super artsy in high school, so I was like, you 395 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: still are arts. Well, it's not as much now, but 396 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: you know, at the time, I thought like, oh, maybe 397 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: it's just because I'm super into art and I love 398 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: drawing the female anatomy so seriously. So fast forward to 399 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: you know, I graduate high school and in college when 400 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:54,959 Speaker 1: in my orientation and I see this woman and so 401 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,479 Speaker 1: I was a freshman, she had to be like a 402 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: sophomore junior. And it was just like an immediate like 403 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: a magnetic attraction and like it's not love at first 404 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: sight because I wasn't in love with her, but I 405 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: was like, oh, my God, like I have to get 406 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: to know what I have to be, like, I just 407 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: have to be in her presence. But I'm super shy, 408 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna, you know, approach you or anything, 409 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: but I will watch you from a distance, you know. 410 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: Not that's like that the Netflix show. You know, I'm 411 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: just playing. I wasn't stalking the girl, but I was 412 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: just but you know, if I saw her on campus, 413 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: I would just be so in awe. And it wasn't like, 414 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: you know, she how you feel like that with a man, 415 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: So that no, like there have been men that you know, 416 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: I've been in love with, you know, but that but 417 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: that first immediate like first sight attraction. No, it was 418 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: just her. So I don't know how the universe ended 419 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 1: up getting us together. But you know, you think what 420 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: you are, or you are what you think. So when 421 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: you think about seven certain things, it just comes to 422 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: you because you put it out in the universe, specially 423 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: if you're speaking about it. Yeah. Yeah, So we ended 424 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: up just like you know, hanging out, kicking it in 425 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: her dorm room and then one day, I don't know, 426 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: like we just end up we ended up making out 427 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: and so we didn't have sex at that moment. We 428 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: didn't have sex like years later, but I was just 429 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: like seeing freaking fireworks and I remember going home that 430 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: night thinking like, oh my god, that's my gay what's 431 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: going I was just like this is so exciting. But 432 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: you know, fast forwarding to like my sexual experience with her, 433 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: I would say she gave me the best sex ever. 434 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: Like I will say that the day I died. Whether 435 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 1: we end up together in the future or not, if 436 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: you're married to a man or whatever, that was she 437 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, it was the best sex. And it was 438 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: because there was no penetration, like it was a lot 439 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: of like yeah, and that's and for me, that's what 440 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 1: gets me off and that's what makes me climax. So 441 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: and like you said, it definitely starts from within. So however, 442 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: you feel, it's gonna definitely come out and it's gonna show. 443 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: So it's like you're trying to cover it up, fix it, 444 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: and you know, and maybe there is no quote unquote 445 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm sorry to interrupt on that, but 446 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: maybe there isn't a fix, but acknowledge acknowledge you know 447 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: what I mean, Because you know, it's like I had 448 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: a really great teacher when I went to esthetic school, 449 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: and she said, you know, people with acne, it's not 450 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: what they're eating, it's what they're thinking. It's always what 451 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: they're thinking. So if you have a tape in your 452 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: head that's always putting you down, that's always saying you're 453 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: not good enough, that's always saying you're not doing enough, 454 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: that's always saying, you know, whatever, I'm not good enough, 455 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 1: it's going to come out. Wow, that's not true. You know, 456 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: if you're in a relationship that sucks and that person 457 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: is making you feel like crap, you think, if that's 458 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: not going to come out in your skin. You may 459 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: deny it in your mind, but that is going to 460 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: come out in your skin. It always does, literally comes 461 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: out in your skin. Like even when I remember when 462 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: I was like, like I said, when my grandmother passed away, 463 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: I was so stressed out. I was like doing so much. 464 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: My skin look crazy, Like half the time, I don't 465 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: even wear and I love makeup. I don't even wear 466 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: as much makeup as I do now because my skin 467 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: is like in a really good condition. But I remember 468 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: back then I was so embarrassing in my skin, my 469 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: face off or my makeup off, because I'm just like 470 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, Like what the hell I did to my skin? 471 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: Like my skin I usually have like the craziest dark spots. 472 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: And it's so funny because I am living proof that 473 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: you can't have really good skin even if you had 474 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: shitty skin before. So to see that growth in that 475 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: transition from the journey I made where I'm at now 476 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: is like it's possible and it can happen, you know, yeah, absolutely, 477 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: And you know as much as I know scientifically about 478 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: what I do, and I know physics for laser, I 479 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: know chemistry for skincare. The most important thing that a 480 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: good institution does is that they never forget that there 481 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: is a human being on their treatment table. So the 482 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: best skill that I have is that I listen to people. 483 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: I listen and observe because that'll tell me a lot. 484 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: I listen to you all the time. I just pretend 485 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: I don't listen to it because I know you don't 486 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: like to be listened to, like to observe, but I know, yeah. 487 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: Most importantly, what is the advice that you would give 488 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: to our listeners? The most important advice I give to 489 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: any woman, and now I say three things. Make sure 490 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: that your mental health is in check. Health is wealth, 491 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: mental health, and your physical health, and check make sure 492 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: that you're healthy. Make sure that you're going to the doctors. 493 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: You know what's going on in your body, you know 494 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: how you flow in, you know, and please make that 495 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: the number one priority before anything. You know what's going 496 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: on with your mind and body, being the best version 497 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: of you. Put yourself first because no one is going 498 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: to take care of you. You are responsible for yourself. 499 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: You have to do whatever it takes so that you 500 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,719 Speaker 1: can be happy. And if that means separating yourself from people, 501 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: if you have to separate yourself from your mama, do that. 502 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: Do whatever you need to do, because your happiness is 503 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: a part of you having a healthy life and a 504 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: healthy mental state. And lastly, I would saying, be the 505 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:42,719 Speaker 1: baddest bitch in the room, Like, like you know, whenever 506 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: I go anywhere, I'm just the baddest bitch in the room. 507 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: I just am not gonna let nobody upstage me because 508 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: I just feel like I'm I'm the greatest. And what 509 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: about your relationship with men? How has been treated you differently? 510 00:27:55,280 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: How have they treated me differently? And I was like, girl, Okay, 511 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: let's talk about the experience when you was, um, you 512 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: was at a club or bars and yourself. Yes, girl, 513 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: you want talking about okay, because I was just like, oh, 514 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: he has some fucking nerves, Yes he did. So you 515 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: know I'm not, you know, enjoying myself at this little 516 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: dance hall place and this guy we started making eyes 517 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: whatever whatever. I don't know what was said, what was done, 518 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: just a whole lot in between there. But I end 519 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: up at his house, in his bed with hardly no 520 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: clothes on. Now that I never told this man from 521 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: the beginning of the night, I'm not giving you nothing. 522 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: I'm not giving you nothing but down I'm in his 523 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: bed with hardly no clothes on. Mistake, mistake. But um 524 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: so then I disclosed to him my virus because of 525 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: course I have to. I'm not going to sleep with you, 526 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: whether protected or unprotected, without allowing you to make an 527 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: informed decision. So explain to like, Look, I'm undetectable. You 528 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't catch it even if we use that kind of 529 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: whatever whatever. So he undetectable because of your medicine that 530 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: you're taking. Yes, yes, yes, so will you always be undetectable? Um, 531 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: that's what I get checked offten So I've been undeceptable 532 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: for years. Um, I have not developed like any medication 533 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: resistance or anything. So my medication is still working for me. Um. Now, 534 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: if I came out for medicine, you, no, that would 535 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: not be the same thing I would. The virus would 536 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: begin to do what it is in my body to do, 537 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: which is to read their heavy and then I would 538 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: have virus in my blood, which in my fluids would 539 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: would make me susceptible to passing it and stuff. So 540 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: the medication is such a key component to this. Um. 541 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: But this dude he wasn't hearing none of it. He 542 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: wasn't hear none of it. So now he wants me 543 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: to play with myself in front of him so that 544 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: he can he jack off. And just yes, exactly, you 545 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: got it, girl, I said this nigga got some nerves, 546 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: say yo. And I just felt so like violated in 547 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: that moment. I felt like, how dare you so? You 548 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: this dude from this club that yeah, I probably would 549 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: have given something that night, but you from this club 550 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: and you want me to do what for you? Like 551 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: I don't even know you like that to want you 552 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: to get off that much? Like? No, Wow, well I 553 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: have been some other situations. I know you had another 554 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: situation that was crazy. I think you know, I'm about 555 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: to say the one with the you was kind of 556 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: like Dani's guy. He wasn't really feeling him and then 557 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: next thing you know, he kind of like locked you 558 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: in the bathroom. That was wild. But you know what, 559 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: before you tell the story, you made a really good point. Um. 560 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: You said something about how like when people know like 561 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: certain situations about you, in situation that's very um, that's 562 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: very dear to you and very sensitive people would kind 563 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: of use that against you because he lied and said 564 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: that his mother had HIV. Yes, And I was like, oh, 565 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: like your mom had it, so you kinda were understand right, 566 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: That's what I thought. But it didn't take me very 567 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: long to put those pieces together. He was a whole fult. 568 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: He was a whole liar. Um, don't think his mom 569 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: ever headed? And I really go ahead, no, go ahead, 570 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: because because then he said his mom like passed away 571 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: from it or like did he mat like a crazy lie. 572 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: All of it was a crazy lie. I don't even 573 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: know which part. Like we'll tell us about it, tell 574 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: us about it. Okay, So I met this guy. He 575 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: was the first guy that I met since moving back 576 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: to the city of Philadelphia, and I was on like 577 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: a dating site and I had it dead out immediately. Look, 578 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: I'm HIV positive, I'm new to the city. I'm just 579 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: trying to get to know friends. So he was in 580 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: my inbox immediately, and I was like, hey, my mom um, 581 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: she has HIV. I'm not sure if he said that 582 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: she died from it, but she has it. Such a 583 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: beautiful woman. And I believe in black love and da 584 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: da da da. So like the conversation started. We eventually 585 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: began hanging out, and it came out over time that 586 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: he was a little thrown off. He had a lot 587 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: of issues. I remember being in this house one night 588 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: and he just snapped, like he snapped, I'm in the bathroom. 589 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: He's holding me by my locks, in my hair, and 590 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: it's threatening that he should cut my hair off right 591 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: now because I'm not strong, Like I don't deserve them. 592 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: He'll take Zillion's mom from him right now, and all 593 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: of this, Like that night was a night that I 594 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: felt like I was going to die. If I've never 595 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: felt that way before, that was the night in this 596 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: instinct of just they say you're either going to fight 597 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: or fight like I ran, he ran outside after me. 598 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: It was so dramatic, and that is something I never 599 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: I would Yes, I never thought I would experience that, 600 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: Like especially I met you off the premise of me 601 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: having HIV. I thought that this was going to be 602 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: like more of a understanding, you know. And then the 603 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: next day he called, you're talking about something you gave 604 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: this on Oh my god, girl, what No, I didn't 605 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: you like, what are you talking about doing? Like? Oh 606 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: you crazy? Crazy? Um? So that goes into mind the 607 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: same question. What about the time when you um when 608 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: you got shot. Yeah, because when you were talking about that, 609 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: I was like, I think you said you ran to 610 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: the the hospital or something you got it, And I'm like, 611 00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: what a strong Yes you are man or it's either that. 612 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: But I owed all to God because I know hes 613 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 1: get your your mama. You work hard, you know, I said. 614 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: That's how said he was not snatched me up by 615 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: my wig for all my life getting me out of trouble. 616 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, but you never you never fold though, 617 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: like you really held it down the strength that I have, 618 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: like I should be really walking around taking medication half crazy. 619 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: She looked good after all of the things that I've 620 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: been through and have seen. But yeah, that day I 621 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: got shot. How were you? I was twenty four, I 622 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: may have been twenty three going on twenty four. Uh. 623 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: In a split second, I was on the ground. But 624 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 1: they had came to shoot or kill a guy from 625 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: a block because of an incident had happened maybe a 626 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 1: day or two before. And when I seen the combination 627 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: of the guy from my block and who he was 628 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: talking to, I know it was a bad combination. So 629 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: I was trying to go. I was going to jump 630 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: in a cab and go tell the boys of that 631 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: crew because he was my daughter's goldfather. But before I 632 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: could do it, I heard the shots and the guy 633 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: was running towards me, which was a friend of mine. 634 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: I yelled at one of the shooter's names, like what 635 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: are you doing? And then I just started running. So 636 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: I fell and my friend fell in front of me. 637 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 1: But for some reason, I knew how I was hit. 638 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: I don't know how I knew. I'm not sure. I 639 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: can't remember feeling a bullet, to be honest with you, 640 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: but I knew, and I told my cousin, who was 641 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 1: standing there in shock, but she wasn't hearing anything. She 642 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: was just you know, she wasn't shock and that split 643 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: the second. All I thought about was my baby upstairs. 644 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: Her dad is away, and I couldn't die on the streets. 645 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: So I got up. She wasn't hearing anything. I'm calling 646 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: her name, so I got up. It was a guy 647 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: from my block name John. He said, t let's go, 648 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 1: kid in the cab because I was like, yo, I'm hit. 649 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: I just knew it, and we got a cab. Home 650 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: in hospital was about maybe three blocks down and one 651 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: block over, so a camp happened to be ranking on 652 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,479 Speaker 1: the corner. That's God, yeah, you know, So I jumped 653 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: in a cab. We got there. They immediately started tearing 654 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: my clothes off. The bullet went straight through about that 655 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: maybe maybe an inch away from my spine, and it 656 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: came out my breast um and um. They just started 657 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: to operate. Not no, not operate. They cut me under 658 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: my arm. They give me a chest too, because I 659 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: actually was bleeding internally. So had I laid on the ground, 660 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: my lungs would have filled up, like yeah, I would 661 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: have smothered to death, especially when fifty fell in front 662 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: of me. His name is fifty and that's a second 663 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: when I imagined my daughter stays her daddy was away. 664 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: I've seen white sheets all my life from the ground, 665 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm not gonna be on the 666 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: white sheet on this ground, like my parents and my 667 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 1: family not gonna see that. So that's what made me 668 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: get to the hospital. And they did good. Yeah, they 669 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: did good. I'm still here because I know when we're 670 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: in college, like I was saying, like I was very active. 671 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: I was very like trying to stay focused, get trade 672 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: is and all this other stuff. So it's like when 673 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: I was going through certain things, I guess it's kind 674 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: of hard to explain to somebody who's not going through 675 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 1: or they just don't understand. So did you feel like 676 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 1: that as well when he was I, yes, I was 677 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: living two lives. And I think that might stem back 678 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: to a couple of things. It might step back to 679 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: the fact that my first trauma I kept a secret, 680 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: and so that's my go to was to not talk 681 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: about things. But also I went to an HBCU in 682 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: the sum to one time for the h b c us. 683 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: You know, they've got to keep them alive. Man waits. 684 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: It's amazing. But like most Black families, who's talking about 685 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 1: mental health? Like, am I going to come to and say, hey, 686 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: I'm believe it and I can't stop throwing up all 687 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: my food? Or I cut myself every night when I 688 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: say good night to you guys, or you know, I 689 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: just I didn't come to the party last night, or 690 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: I left the party early because I had a panic 691 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: attack and needed to go, you know, cry all night, 692 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 1: like I didn't feel safe enough. And when my mental 693 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: health stuff was starting to come out, there were people 694 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: that were close to me that we're not understanding and 695 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 1: we're gossiping about and very mean not I don't think 696 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: it was intentional. I think it just was a lack 697 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:41,280 Speaker 1: of understanding. And now that I'm out and very open 698 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: and honest about what I deal with, I have had 699 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: those same people reach out to me and say, you know, 700 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 1: I had no idea because it just is a lack 701 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: of education. And I also felt like when we was 702 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: in college, because I can instill knew you around the 703 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: same age, I feel like we was in college, they 704 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: didn't really talk about mental health, and like I feel 705 00:38:58,640 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 1: like when I was in college, it was all about 706 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: show my face. It was it was all about showing 707 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 1: face and black accellent, you know, And I think that 708 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 1: as a black girl, I can say that growing up, 709 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: the only time I ever felt seen or special was 710 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 1: when I was doing something extraordinary. And so how can 711 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: I admit that not only am I not really extraordinary, 712 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 1: but I am so below average that I'm barely functioning 713 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:32,280 Speaker 1: behind right there by myself? You know? How can I 714 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: admit to that my whole identity is tied up and 715 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: being the best in being this magical thing in order 716 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: to feel adequate. There's no way I can talk to 717 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: anybody about this because I don't want to fail at 718 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:51,760 Speaker 1: being a black a black girl. Man, ain't it? Girl? 719 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 1: Because you have to you it's so many size of 720 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: it's so many parts of being a woman. It's like 721 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 1: for you just trying to find that balance. It's a lot. 722 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 1: It really can just drive somebody crazy. Literally, did I 723 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: feel like I was done of my research? I'm always 724 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: seeing a lot of men. But the sister can and um, 725 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 1: I guess it's my opinion. When I say this, I 726 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: don't agree with it at all. I I'm not not 727 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: only a person to frown upon things or you know, 728 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 1: judge people or whatever. But I don't agree with it, 729 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: um because I study things down to the science. Okay, 730 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: as a woman, our our our female form, our female 731 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 1: makeup was never meant to um be accessible to two 732 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: dicks at the same time, I'm and I know, I 733 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 1: really know. So it's not and it's not even just 734 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 1: it's not even just on on a on a on 735 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: a chemical level, I'm talking spiritual like as women were 736 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: very very magnetic. So we we take on we we 737 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: absorb certain energies. So every man that you ever had 738 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 1: sex with, you carry something from that man with you 739 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 1: for the rest of your life. So but what about 740 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 1: having sex with a with a woman because your your 741 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 1: your soul is still tied to that one. That's very true, 742 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: That's very true. So this so what's the difference? Men 743 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:25,240 Speaker 1: give off many etmn energies? Men? Men are not magnetic. 744 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:30,919 Speaker 1: They're the total opposite. So by you, you know, engaging 745 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: with Okay, because when you're having sex with a man, 746 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: if you have sex with a man persistently for ten, 747 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 1: twent thirty years and you have not had sex with 748 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 1: no other man, he's left his DNA inside of you, 749 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 1: and your DNA is now being altered to match his. 750 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,760 Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know this. So women wonder 751 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: why they go through um pH imbalances with their vaginas 752 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,800 Speaker 1: and and you know, little little issues like that necessarily 753 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 1: saying always has to be sex. But that is one 754 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: of the reasons, you know, why women have a high 755 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: level of um bad bacteria, or their body might be 756 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 1: a little too acidic to be able to balance it 757 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: balance itself back out, and and and along with the 758 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: acidic diets that we consume as Americans or whatever. But 759 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: that just doesn't make it any better. And these things 760 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 1: can bring on emotional imbalance because if you if your 761 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,479 Speaker 1: brain is literally swimming in acid juice, you're not gonna 762 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 1: be thinking clearly. And now you're wondering why you're going 763 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: through things, or why you're depressed, or why you're you know, 764 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: you cry yourself to sleep at night, or why you 765 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, all of these things 766 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: tie into one another. All of these things play play 767 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: a role in into your day to day living, into 768 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: your day to day interactions, how you deal with situations, 769 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 1: how you deal with problems. You know what I'm saying, 770 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 1: So you you don't want it, You don't want to 771 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:58,280 Speaker 1: taint yourself with more than your you were actually made 772 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 1: to take on. You understand what saying. But you know, 773 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 1: I think the woman a woman can have the same 774 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: effect on a woman as a man does, especially if 775 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: you've been said I don't. I don't think so, because 776 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: it's impossible for me too. It's impossible for me to 777 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 1: leave my DNA inside of another woman. I can't, I 778 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: can't do it. I can't. I can't ejaculate inside of 779 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,399 Speaker 1: another woman. And and people don't really, people don't really 780 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 1: analyze the spirituality of sex. People have perverted it so 781 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 1: much that they look at it like, you know, we 782 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: can't talk about it like that or whatever whatever. We 783 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 1: can't correlate spirituality and sex with one another. But it's 784 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 1: it's it's blasphemous to me, and it's the biggest contradiction 785 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,760 Speaker 1: because you know, sex is what brought us all here, 786 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 1: you know, so it's all to do with spirituality. Beneath 787 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 1: From North Carolina, everything was fine. The second day the 788 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 1: Maltowny came. I did the scene. I had a few 789 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 1: little ish I did the scene totally sober. That was 790 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 1: one issue, because I'm my nerves was a wreck to 791 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 1: be so this was the first time that you had 792 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 1: sex with the male talent, and you did a sober yep, 793 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: but you wanted to see how I was gonna LEO. 794 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 1: I didn't. First of all, the man like he paid 795 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: for the room. I went down there still on very 796 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 1: little money, just a little money just for emergencies. So 797 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,360 Speaker 1: you know, if anything happened, like I said, the company, 798 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: the man, the producer, he paid for my travel. You know, 799 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 1: well excills me megabus mhm, you know that long ass ride. 800 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,439 Speaker 1: He paid for all of that. You know what I'm saying, 801 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,840 Speaker 1: paid for the hotel, You pay for my food and stuff. 802 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: But he doesn't drink or smoke or you know, I 803 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: don't smoke nothing, you know what I'm saying. But he 804 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 1: don't drink or whatever. He don't do nothing. So you know, 805 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 1: he wasn't buying no damn liquor, you know what I mean. 806 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:47,399 Speaker 1: He made that real clear, you know. But then says 807 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,239 Speaker 1: I was didn't have had no damn liquor, you know 808 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: what I mean. I ended up going to the store 809 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,839 Speaker 1: and I did buy a beer. But by the time 810 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,800 Speaker 1: the male talent got off in his regular job, because 811 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 1: most people have a regular job in his industry, by 812 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 1: the time he got his record job and got there 813 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: and they came like in the last minute they called me. 814 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: The producer called him, was like, okay, we're on our way. 815 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 1: I had to run rushed, kit dressed. I come out 816 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 1: the bathroom like they got the keys a getting the 817 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: room reminders in their name. So when I come out 818 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 1: the bathroom there there you know what I'm saying, the 819 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,320 Speaker 1: male talent comes in, he uses the bathroom, we start shooting. 820 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 1: It was okay, I felt like I still have a 821 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,800 Speaker 1: relationship with the male talent. You know what I'm saying. 822 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 1: He comes to my city because he drives truck or 823 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 1: whatever too, so when he comes up here, you know, 824 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 1: we go see him and you know, we're talking, you know, 825 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,399 Speaker 1: to spend time talking and stuff or whatever. You know. Um, 826 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:49,879 Speaker 1: it was I felt kind of it felt strange. And 827 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 1: don't get it twisted. I've slept with Motherucker's I ain't 828 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 1: known before you know what I'm saying, But it was 829 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,360 Speaker 1: different for the camera and everything that I actually have 830 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: an audience. Yeah, I knew how to I know how 831 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 1: to be seductive, you know what I mean. I know 832 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: that I have the eyes you know when I'm looking 833 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 1: I know you know, it's just you just can't stare 834 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 1: into the camera, you know what I mean, you gotta 835 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 1: act like you don't know what's going on. But then 836 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 1: there was little incidents where the male talent, but he 837 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 1: had like bleeding like it was little ship that I 838 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 1: was like, okay, this is something wrong. He had shaved 839 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,759 Speaker 1: cut like on his butt, so there was like a 840 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 1: little bit of drop like not drop, a little like 841 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: a little line of blood or whatever on it did 842 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 1: because automatically I'm like, okay, is this one fucking gay? 843 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: Which don't get it sucked up. There's you know, I 844 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,280 Speaker 1: have a lot of gay friends, you know what I'm saying. 845 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,840 Speaker 1: So it's not that's not the that's not the situation. 846 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 1: The situation is you're fucking need right, yeah, and you 847 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 1: bleeding like he bleeding from your asshole is going on? 848 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 1: You know what are you afraid of? How to get terrified? Yes, 849 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 1: a thousand, million, trillion, billion percent terrified to have children 850 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,719 Speaker 1: to the point where I've decided where I don't think 851 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 1: I want them. M hmm. I'm so you're afraid you're 852 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 1: going to be like her? No, I think I'm going 853 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 1: to be an extremist because I don't want to be 854 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 1: like her mm hmmm. And I know that there has 855 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 1: to be some type of balance. You can't be a 856 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 1: smothering mom and you can't be a distant mom. You 857 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 1: have to have balance. And I don't think I can 858 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 1: do that. I think I'll be too anxious to know, 859 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 1: like what's going on with my kid, how is my 860 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,720 Speaker 1: kid feeling, how is my kid doing? How is school? 861 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 1: I would be one of those parents where I joke 862 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 1: about it, but I would be one of those parents 863 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 1: where I would put a camera in their their button 864 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 1: jacket or like give them glasses where even though they 865 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 1: don't need them, it's like a pitty camera on it's 866 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 1: I could no be talking to them who's around. I 867 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,760 Speaker 1: would be obsessed with my child because of the fact 868 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 1: that I wasn did so much. I'd be obsessed and 869 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 1: I don't think that's healthy for me. And because of 870 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,319 Speaker 1: the fact that I've dealt with depression for a very 871 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,360 Speaker 1: long time and still on and off depending you know, 872 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 1: I don't think that would benefit anyone. So I think 873 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 1: I would have to be in a healthy state with 874 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 1: myself first before I ever introduce a child into this world. 875 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: And I have to I just I have to learn 876 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,400 Speaker 1: a balance. I have to teach myself to have a 877 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 1: balance before I could ever introduce a kid into this world. 878 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,399 Speaker 1: I mean, poor poor thing. They would want to run 879 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 1: away from me if like, oh my god, my mom 880 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: again she's at school for no fucking reason, Like I'd 881 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 1: be crazy, Like the school would hate me because I'd 882 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 1: be there constantly. I want to be going on my boyfriend. 883 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 1: I was like yo, because I mean, I bought my 884 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 1: ask because I'm really trying to, like I don't want 885 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 1: my kids to go out like I want my kids. 886 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 1: We haven't do a lot of days because I went 887 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 1: without when I was growing up and I had I 888 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 1: think I had not for job and I was like 889 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 1: fourteen because I was like, I'm tired of this ship. Yeah, 890 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 1: I got to get out there and get on my 891 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 1: own because obviously, I mean, my my mom hasn't sent 892 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 1: me money and stuff, but you know that's every so often. 893 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 1: So it's just like I had to get out there 894 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 1: and hustle. So I was like, yeah, I bust my 895 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,839 Speaker 1: ass because I was like, I know I'm gonna get 896 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 1: my kids everything right. I don't have my kids to 897 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 1: go out and I want to make sure I am 898 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 1: there every step of the way. Yeah, that's how it 899 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 1: should be. That's how it should be. We turned onto 900 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 1: a certain street and we were at a light. And 901 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: because they're gentrifying all parts of Atlanta, there will be 902 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,719 Speaker 1: some really nice things on one block. If you go 903 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,919 Speaker 1: one block back, you're in an area where not good 904 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 1: things happen. So I just leave at that. So I 905 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 1: made I naively hindsight is made the comment because we 906 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,880 Speaker 1: were we were around a certain area and I was like, 907 00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 1: you know, this perch is really nice, but honestly, even 908 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,680 Speaker 1: if go one street over, you know, I've heard and 909 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 1: seen things that have gone on over there, Like you 910 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,799 Speaker 1: just really need to be careful as a driver. And 911 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 1: he started throwing his weight around, telling me that he 912 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,400 Speaker 1: didn't need to worry about that. You know, he his 913 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,239 Speaker 1: work security for all of these years. He worked homeland security, 914 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:24,880 Speaker 1: high Museum, He worked closely with the pastor at like 915 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,279 Speaker 1: a huge mega church here in Atlanta security for this 916 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 1: and he just knows how to handle people. And it 917 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 1: was around that. It was a combination of me noticing 918 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 1: that we were in this area, which is a little 919 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 1: further than I thought we needed to be. In that 920 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 1: comment those comments of him trying to intimidate me that 921 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 1: I started to feel uncomfortable. My stomach started to not up, 922 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:52,400 Speaker 1: I started sweating. So at this point I started actively 923 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 1: sending my location, Like every time we crossed over another street. 924 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 1: I was sending my location to the friend that I 925 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 1: just left. And I said in a message and I said, 926 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:06,400 Speaker 1: call me. So again, we're still driving down these history. 927 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:11,279 Speaker 1: He's missing turns that I think we should be. He 928 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,040 Speaker 1: did call me, but so remember I was telling you 929 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 1: he lives really close to that restaurant, so he had 930 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 1: gone home. He started getting right for bed, like had 931 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 1: a quick shower, that kind of thing. So this is 932 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,440 Speaker 1: like what he's doing in this time that I'm sending. 933 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 1: I'm sending my location and all that. So, um, we 934 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 1: passed another turn where I thought we should be going, 935 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,080 Speaker 1: and the driver he just keeps telling me, oh my god, 936 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:38,799 Speaker 1: you're so pretty. You should model. You know, your hair, 937 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 1: your this, you're that. I was just like, at this point, 938 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:50,399 Speaker 1: I'm starting to like okay, almost like okay, what's the plan? Wow, 939 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 1: so's it's till thirty in the morning, Like who says that? 940 00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 1: Who says that? A really not about that? So it's 941 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:06,720 Speaker 1: like what are you trun sir? It I made that comment, 942 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 1: you know, to the police investigators and let them know, 943 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,239 Speaker 1: like listen, I've taken lift before late at night. I've 944 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,839 Speaker 1: taken it with friends, you know whatever. And if it's 945 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 1: a male female dynamic, whether it's one male versus a 946 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:26,399 Speaker 1: few versus one and they're not how do I how 947 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 1: do I phrase this and there's no sneakiness or weirdness 948 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,400 Speaker 1: or anything like that going on, they will go out 949 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:40,240 Speaker 1: of their way to steer the conversation and like um 950 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,279 Speaker 1: surface level, but you know what I mean, like, you know, 951 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 1: do you guys work around here? You know, what do 952 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,440 Speaker 1: you do? Do you like Atlanta? I like these restaurants, 953 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,600 Speaker 1: And they will go out of their way to make 954 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:58,000 Speaker 1: sure that you don't feel uncomfortable. And because that dynamic 955 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:04,240 Speaker 1: already calls for that, if that makes sense. So we're driving, 956 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,279 Speaker 1: We're probably driving like another three or four minutes, and 957 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:11,319 Speaker 1: we crossed over a street and like alarm bells were 958 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:12,880 Speaker 1: just going off, and I was just like hell no, 959 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:14,840 Speaker 1: like we're not supposed to be over here. This is 960 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 1: not It was what was like, if you can't inspire, 961 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,279 Speaker 1: like what are the feelings like when you know, like 962 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 1: the alarm bells, because I think a lot of times 963 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 1: people don't know, like like I know when something's going crazy, 964 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 1: it's because like like not in your stomach, like a 965 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 1: hair start standing up, like what was something was experiencing? Um, 966 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:37,840 Speaker 1: So it was almost just like the anticipation of something 967 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 1: not going well. I was feeling like nasea, okay, oh, 968 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,480 Speaker 1: I'll put it like this. Do you remember like when 969 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,759 Speaker 1: you were little, right and you did something you weren't 970 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:51,919 Speaker 1: supposed to do right, maybe at school, maybe at home, 971 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,280 Speaker 1: and maybe it wasn't even that big. You just didn't 972 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 1: really know what the consequences be. And then kind of 973 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:04,239 Speaker 1: just that it anticipation of of something you know it's 974 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:08,440 Speaker 1: not gonna be good, right, you just don't know, but 975 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,120 Speaker 1: you know it's not gonna end well. So it was 976 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 1: something like that. So I actually when we started going 977 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,959 Speaker 1: down the one street, I actually thought like, oh my god, 978 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,799 Speaker 1: I could projectile vomit on this one shield right now, 979 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,799 Speaker 1: and there there would be nothing I can do about it. 980 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:31,760 Speaker 1: That's how sick I felt. I felt like food poisoning. Wow. 981 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 1: So I he turns on he starts turning onto a street, 982 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 1: like did he notice that you would like starting Phil, 983 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure he did, because when we started talking, 984 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,879 Speaker 1: I started like stuttering and stuff like that. And at 985 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 1: one point he picked up his phone and he was like, 986 00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 1: let me see how far we are from your destination. 987 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,040 Speaker 1: Oh seven minutes. Let's get you to where you need 988 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 1: to go, almost like that was gonna calm me down. 989 00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,880 Speaker 1: And I was still like, um no. So he starts. 990 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 1: So I'm super visual. Um, That's what I do in 991 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:11,600 Speaker 1: my job. That's just the way I'm wired. Um. I 992 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 1: just really can remember thinking, now, if you tell me something, 993 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,319 Speaker 1: if I write something now, you know whatever, that that's 994 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,880 Speaker 1: not whatever. But if I can see it, especially like 995 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,120 Speaker 1: in color or the way things are set up, you 996 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:26,160 Speaker 1: know whatever. So we started turning on so we passed 997 00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,960 Speaker 1: an office building that was like beautifully I just remember 998 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,120 Speaker 1: it being like beautifully landscaped. I was like, wow, you know, like, 999 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,400 Speaker 1: I just remember seeing that. And then we turned onto 1000 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 1: a street and there's a median and I can immediately 1001 00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,239 Speaker 1: in the media and see that the street is not 1002 00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:46,120 Speaker 1: being taken care of. There's pine straw, there's trash, like, 1003 00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 1: it looks desolate, it looks like a forgotten street almost, 1004 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,239 Speaker 1: And when he started to turn on the street. I said, 1005 00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,319 Speaker 1: I'm not feeling well. Can you please stop the car? 1006 00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,840 Speaker 1: Can you please pull over? I'm just I'm really not 1007 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:04,240 Speaker 1: feeling well. And he, like I said, he's already driving slow. 1008 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 1: So he slows down a little bit to make this turn, 1009 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,920 Speaker 1: but he speeds up if that makes sense, to continue 1010 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,560 Speaker 1: down the street. And I look over at him and 1011 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 1: he has this like death grip on the steering wheel 1012 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:23,399 Speaker 1: with his right hand. With his left hand, he has 1013 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 1: what I would identify as a nervous like I'm in 1014 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:32,160 Speaker 1: the back seat watching this like this is because that's 1015 00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 1: because that's how memory and that's how And sometimes I'm 1016 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,960 Speaker 1: like when people because I've had people, you know, my 1017 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,520 Speaker 1: Instagram and stuff like that tell me that they think 1018 00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,520 Speaker 1: I'm lying and all this kind of stuff. No, I'm sorry, Sis, 1019 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,400 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, bro, this is for real. This is remember 1020 00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 1: killing me about that because I was going through comments, 1021 00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 1: I was just like, why would somebody make this up? 1022 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 1: And I know there's a lot of bug that people, 1023 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:55,960 Speaker 1: but like when I was reading it and you was 1024 00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,640 Speaker 1: like you provided free shots and stuff, nothing about that 1025 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:04,279 Speaker 1: told me she was lying. No, I would, first of all, 1026 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,359 Speaker 1: I would never wish this on anybody. Second of all, 1027 00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,839 Speaker 1: this would not be a lie that I would tell. 1028 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:13,360 Speaker 1: I mean honestly, like, things are going pretty okay for 1029 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 1: me right, Like I have all of my basic necessities. 1030 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not starving, I have friends, like things 1031 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,520 Speaker 1: are Why would why would I want this for? What 1032 00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 1: are you getting from this? Exactly? So he turned down 1033 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,440 Speaker 1: the street. He turned down the street. I look over. 1034 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,040 Speaker 1: He's got this deper up on the steering wheel. He's 1035 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:40,320 Speaker 1: like rubbing his index finger and his thumb together like vigorously. 1036 00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,600 Speaker 1: And I feel a car speed up. And it happened 1037 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,520 Speaker 1: so fast I don't remember it so Also too, I'm 1038 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,560 Speaker 1: very type a. Everything that I do has to be 1039 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,840 Speaker 1: a plan. Everything that I do um needs to be 1040 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,960 Speaker 1: thought of, thought out. That's just the kind of person 1041 00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,720 Speaker 1: I am. And it happened so quickly. When I looked 1042 00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,440 Speaker 1: over and felt the car speed up, and looked over 1043 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,960 Speaker 1: and saw him doing that, I felt like I was 1044 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 1: gonna vomit. I felt like it was coming up from 1045 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,160 Speaker 1: my belly like my chest kind of um, you know, 1046 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,320 Speaker 1: like you would heave a little bit like my chest 1047 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:16,040 Speaker 1: kind of And when vomit happened, my arm extended out 1048 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:20,760 Speaker 1: and opened the car door, and I I jumped out, Wow, 1049 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 1: how fast do you think he was lawing? I would 1050 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,439 Speaker 1: say that he probably still was not going over twenty 1051 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 1: because he slowed down to make the turn right as 1052 00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 1: soon as as soon when I say, we were coming 1053 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:35,919 Speaker 1: up on the turn and I asked him to pull over, 1054 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 1: so it wasn't like the car was had fully turned. 1055 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,680 Speaker 1: And then I asked, when I saw that media look 1056 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,919 Speaker 1: amiss the way it did. I already knew what coming street. 1057 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,800 Speaker 1: We were turning around, you know what I mean, going 1058 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,800 Speaker 1: on like I'm not new to this, like I know 1059 00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,080 Speaker 1: what is around Atlanta, you know what I mean. So 1060 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,439 Speaker 1: as soon as we were starting to make the turn, 1061 00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,520 Speaker 1: I asked him to pull over. I and buckled my seatbelt, 1062 00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,520 Speaker 1: asked him to pull over. I felt him beating up. 1063 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:04,240 Speaker 1: I saw over and look at and I just got out. You, um, 1064 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:09,600 Speaker 1: that's a misconception many people. Many times the virus can 1065 00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:13,400 Speaker 1: be covered up by things. You know, So I really 1066 00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,360 Speaker 1: will tell people if you have any type of symptoms, 1067 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,959 Speaker 1: don't ignore it. And that's women. I was just about 1068 00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,600 Speaker 1: to ask you that next, because I know everybody bodies 1069 00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,880 Speaker 1: is different, so that where something like I guess if 1070 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,440 Speaker 1: there is was like some of the most common symptoms 1071 00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,040 Speaker 1: out there. Okay, so the common which this one about. 1072 00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:31,439 Speaker 1: This is the reason why I'm about to say, don't 1073 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,160 Speaker 1: ignore it. It's itching. You know, most people you get 1074 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:38,840 Speaker 1: the simple itching so um itching, burning um, and I 1075 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,800 Speaker 1: mean burning sensation. That burning consisentation could be in your 1076 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,560 Speaker 1: growing area, that can be on your face. Some people 1077 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,680 Speaker 1: they feel it all over their body, something that's in 1078 00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 1: their legs. Some people get like like feeling like like 1079 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,919 Speaker 1: pins and their butts like they butt started the egg 1080 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,360 Speaker 1: and their legs started egg and they feet started eight 1081 00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 1: from her pies. Yes, it can cause for some people. 1082 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:02,960 Speaker 1: And some people may think like, oh, I gotta screen 1083 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,160 Speaker 1: with dry you know, I'm just tight, my nerves just hurt. No, 1084 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,400 Speaker 1: you may just have herpes and you don't know it, 1085 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So that's some misconception. A 1086 01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,240 Speaker 1: lot of people are something that most people kind of 1087 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,080 Speaker 1: brush over. Some people get migraines, and that's not everybody's. 1088 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,680 Speaker 1: Don't think every migraine you have is herpies. No. Um. 1089 01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,840 Speaker 1: So that happens for some people and other people, like 1090 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,120 Speaker 1: I said, the tingling all over the body. Some ladies 1091 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:30,440 Speaker 1: get discharge. Um, what's the other you know, clusters of 1092 01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 1: bumps that happens to some people that look like fluid field. Um. 1093 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:38,040 Speaker 1: Some people they look yellow. Um. Some people they open 1094 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:42,120 Speaker 1: completely up. Some people only have one bump. Um. It 1095 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,600 Speaker 1: looked like a pimple to them. You know, it don't 1096 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,440 Speaker 1: look like anything. Some people are look like a hair bump. 1097 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 1: Some people are like abrasion. Some people are like a rash. 1098 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,439 Speaker 1: Some guys they think, well, that's not nothing. I'm gonna 1099 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:57,440 Speaker 1: ask because I know, especially within the if you're mostly 1100 01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,040 Speaker 1: black women that I know, they get a lot of 1101 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 1: bulls or hair bumps and stuff. Yeah, the thing about 1102 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,640 Speaker 1: bulls and has nothing to do with her pies. But 1103 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people have been coming to me about 1104 01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,040 Speaker 1: a question. So I'm so happy you browing that up. 1105 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,240 Speaker 1: Oh my god, bron that up. Because that has nothing 1106 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,160 Speaker 1: to do with Curry's nothing at all. That's a whole 1107 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,680 Speaker 1: another issue for a whole another day. So that's not 1108 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:19,920 Speaker 1: an issue in which most people may think that. But 1109 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,960 Speaker 1: it's not, Um, you say, hair bump, It's just your 1110 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,720 Speaker 1: hair is just grown within. I tell ladies, it's very important. 1111 01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 1: We need to stop shaving. You know, it's not good 1112 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,120 Speaker 1: for us. You know, it's just not good. Um, if 1113 01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,680 Speaker 1: you do shave, make sure you shave low, don't shave off. 1114 01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,959 Speaker 1: Something I learned from my mom is get to get 1115 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:42,560 Speaker 1: a mad tremor and you and trim low. Well, I've 1116 01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,920 Speaker 1: been telling my friends because I know a lot of 1117 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,000 Speaker 1: them don't like to get laser. But there's a particular 1118 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,000 Speaker 1: laser that we have to use for our skin type. 1119 01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:53,240 Speaker 1: It's called Yeah, it's called yas because my skin is 1120 01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,560 Speaker 1: like extremely sense toll because I was shaving when I 1121 01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,600 Speaker 1: was young and I had and grown hairs, and I mean, 1122 01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:01,040 Speaker 1: he's tm that we are families and then you can 1123 01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,560 Speaker 1: have all these breakouts and stuff. But you know, our 1124 01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:06,439 Speaker 1: moms and their moms they lived in the generation where 1125 01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 1: they did shave or they left it like it was. 1126 01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,840 Speaker 1: So we're in the generation we have the resources and 1127 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,680 Speaker 1: it's called the technique is called Yes, the amazing their treatment, 1128 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,000 Speaker 1: and it has helped me out so much because you 1129 01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,360 Speaker 1: write and grow hair com and then you have this 1130 01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:26,120 Speaker 1: get skin is flurred up and then it's annoying and god, 1131 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:33,720 Speaker 1: yea a couple who baby that thing. Um, some people 1132 01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:35,880 Speaker 1: don't realize that if you leave it too long, and 1133 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,919 Speaker 1: it's really embedded and get infected and all this other 1134 01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:42,680 Speaker 1: stuff can happen. Um, some people get cisted. You know, 1135 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,840 Speaker 1: it's so many things that can happen, so um, so 1136 01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 1: it do. It can look like a hair box for 1137 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,760 Speaker 1: some people just because it's where it is and its 1138 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:51,600 Speaker 1: hair right there, so it's looking like the hair is 1139 01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,200 Speaker 1: in it, and it's really not. It's just the bump 1140 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,160 Speaker 1: is raised and the hair is on top of it. 1141 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,600 Speaker 1: It just looks that way. Um, Like you said, some 1142 01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:02,000 Speaker 1: guys it's just a job for them. Um. And some 1143 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,200 Speaker 1: people is a bump, but it don't hurt. Some people 1144 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:08,120 Speaker 1: are like cut some people you don't get any bombs, cuts, nothing, 1145 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,320 Speaker 1: it's just pained. Like it's feel like a throbbing feeling, 1146 01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,600 Speaker 1: you know, like you know, like you know, you little 1147 01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,800 Speaker 1: and you hit your knee and it's throbbing. People like, 1148 01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:20,680 Speaker 1: oh now it's the systems. Can the systems be consistent? 1149 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,520 Speaker 1: Because I know it's I have I have. I had 1150 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,440 Speaker 1: a friend she found out she had her fees and 1151 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,680 Speaker 1: when she found out she was gonna take she took 1152 01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,960 Speaker 1: the medicine. Of the medicine made it worse, so she 1153 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:36,120 Speaker 1: stopped taking it for some people. And the thing about 1154 01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm want to say this, she may assume that it 1155 01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,000 Speaker 1: got worse. But that's one thing I'm gonna tell you 1156 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:43,960 Speaker 1: about the medicine. The medicine, it's best used. And then 1157 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:45,480 Speaker 1: they said us to us all the time, but we 1158 01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,320 Speaker 1: can't hear nothing because we just freaking out. It's best 1159 01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,880 Speaker 1: used when you first first get a symptom. So most 1160 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,200 Speaker 1: of us go into the planet and we're all away, 1161 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,640 Speaker 1: all away in the outbreak. That medicine ain't gonna do 1162 01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:59,600 Speaker 1: you nothing. It's just gonna seem like it's getting worse, 1163 01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,680 Speaker 1: but it's really not. The outbreak is just doing what 1164 01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:03,120 Speaker 1: it's gonna do. It's gonna go all the way to 1165 01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,800 Speaker 1: its full capacity and it's gonna come all the way down. 1166 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,520 Speaker 1: So really the medicine probably didn't do that. That's what 1167 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,400 Speaker 1: she thought. And she's thinking that the medicine gonna speed 1168 01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,640 Speaker 1: it up. It's not like a um antibiotic. When you 1169 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,240 Speaker 1: start taking antibotic if you feel better, No, no, no, baby, 1170 01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,440 Speaker 1: they don't work like this. This stuck is like, oh 1171 01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,840 Speaker 1: you late, you're really that medicine don'ta feel like a 1172 01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:26,200 Speaker 1: sugar pill m hm. And they don't feel it's gonna 1173 01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,160 Speaker 1: feel like nothing because you're already in it. So I'll 1174 01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,600 Speaker 1: tell anybody who's listening to this or have a friend 1175 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,920 Speaker 1: if they feel a tingle. I always tell people go 1176 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,560 Speaker 1: get tested. And I know you get scared. You don't 1177 01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,840 Speaker 1: want to find out. You may hurt other people. Horror 1178 01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,200 Speaker 1: stories all that stuff. Take a horror story and find 1179 01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,040 Speaker 1: out the truth, because you may go in there and 1180 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,840 Speaker 1: find out it's something else. It's so many different conditions 1181 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:49,320 Speaker 1: out here. It's unreal. It may not be herpies. You 1182 01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,560 Speaker 1: may it be allergic to your soul or alergic to 1183 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:56,320 Speaker 1: your man sing. It's real. Okay, that's true. Um, how 1184 01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,200 Speaker 1: was it telling people that you have heard bees like 1185 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,240 Speaker 1: as far as like dating? Because I know you have 1186 01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:04,040 Speaker 1: two sons, and that's another that's another misconception. And I 1187 01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,840 Speaker 1: read that, oh because when she found out, she was like, 1188 01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:08,960 Speaker 1: I'm afraid to have kids now because they can have it. 1189 01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:11,760 Speaker 1: And I'm like, girl, I think you can have kids. 1190 01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,360 Speaker 1: You just have to be a little crocious about it. Yeah, yeah, 1191 01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,480 Speaker 1: you have kids. So I have my first son, which 1192 01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,640 Speaker 1: is nine. I had him literally a year after I 1193 01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,480 Speaker 1: founded in April. I had him the next year. Um, 1194 01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,920 Speaker 1: and I was terrified. I don't gonna lie, gonna get it. 1195 01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,520 Speaker 1: I'm thinking like HIV. You know at that time, HIV 1196 01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,240 Speaker 1: information was coming out, but that's what we always assume. 1197 01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:34,640 Speaker 1: Everything functioned ass um So I'm thinking, like I got 1198 01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:36,400 Speaker 1: the Virus're gonna automatically get the virus not all and 1199 01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,320 Speaker 1: stuff like that. But that's not how the virus work. 1200 01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,400 Speaker 1: The baby will have to come in contact with the 1201 01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,680 Speaker 1: physical outbreak. So the baby had to come through the 1202 01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,000 Speaker 1: birthn noal and I had to have an outbreak for 1203 01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,120 Speaker 1: him to get it, and at that time I wasn't 1204 01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,640 Speaker 1: having one. And when you get to your third trimester, 1205 01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,960 Speaker 1: the doctor always like, okay, we get to the third trimester, 1206 01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,160 Speaker 1: that's gonna head to get your anti virus to kind 1207 01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,680 Speaker 1: of reduce the chance you have an outbreak. Like I 1208 01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:02,160 Speaker 1: said about the medicine and don't prevent anything and assist 1209 01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,400 Speaker 1: in a sist. But if you're going to labor and 1210 01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,520 Speaker 1: you have an outbreak, which I'm not gonna lie, they 1211 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:11,040 Speaker 1: all up in your stuff. You okay, miss Bobby, Are 1212 01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,400 Speaker 1: you okay? It's okay? Then we talked about you you 1213 01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,640 Speaker 1: know what we need talking in front of everything like 1214 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:19,120 Speaker 1: they are really like serious, because they know that baby 1215 01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,000 Speaker 1: come into contact with that, that that baby can go blind. 1216 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:25,160 Speaker 1: It can kill a baby. Yeah, I read that too, 1217 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,480 Speaker 1: like to yeah, it can kill a baby. That can 1218 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,200 Speaker 1: it can get really bad, but it can really kill 1219 01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:32,880 Speaker 1: kill the baby. Yeah it can't. And this is not 1220 01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,040 Speaker 1: to scared people, but this is this is for you 1221 01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,560 Speaker 1: to know. And that's why doctors don't think it's a 1222 01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,120 Speaker 1: big deal. They only care when it gets down to 1223 01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:42,200 Speaker 1: that third trauma, so when you're going to labor, because 1224 01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:45,160 Speaker 1: at this point, you can have this baby any time now. Um, 1225 01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,960 Speaker 1: So that's why it's very important. I tell anybody, you know, 1226 01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,600 Speaker 1: if it's your first I'll take the medicine. There's nothing 1227 01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:53,240 Speaker 1: wrong with taking not if the medicine don't work for you, 1228 01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,960 Speaker 1: or called you to have um other health conditions, or 1229 01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,360 Speaker 1: it's just not working for you, I get it. You'll 1230 01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,560 Speaker 1: have to just try to find another method, which is 1231 01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,960 Speaker 1: other supplements and stuff like that. But I would tell anybody, 1232 01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:04,960 Speaker 1: please talk to your doctor. Don't be going out here 1233 01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,080 Speaker 1: jumping off and I don't want to take all these supplements. 1234 01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:10,240 Speaker 1: Hold up, you're pregnant. Remember, it's just not your life. 1235 01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:13,600 Speaker 1: You got another life, you know, So I'll tell people, 1236 01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:16,480 Speaker 1: you know, please talk to your OBEs about what you're 1237 01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,160 Speaker 1: talking or even talk to your doulas. If you get 1238 01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,320 Speaker 1: a doula, you don't talk to them about what you 1239 01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,200 Speaker 1: want to do and the route you want to take 1240 01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:24,320 Speaker 1: because you don't always have to do that. And then 1241 01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,000 Speaker 1: even for the young ladies who are just like you 1242 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,160 Speaker 1: know what, girl, I am terrified. I don't want to 1243 01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,680 Speaker 1: do it. I'm scared that I maybe have an outbreak 1244 01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:32,520 Speaker 1: and I don't know about it. Because some women have 1245 01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:35,040 Speaker 1: outbreaks in their service. They don't have where they have it. 1246 01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:38,800 Speaker 1: They don't have the outside of vagina, so the doctor 1247 01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,360 Speaker 1: won't know, you know what I mean, open it homes 1248 01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:44,680 Speaker 1: like that. Correct. So that's another thing. If you know 1249 01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:46,520 Speaker 1: you're that type of woman that you know you have 1250 01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:50,080 Speaker 1: your your outburks inside, I would just say, look, let's 1251 01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:55,840 Speaker 1: schedule umse I know recently you're all schedule and see 1252 01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:57,840 Speaker 1: section because they're just terrified, and I said, there's nothing 1253 01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,320 Speaker 1: wrong with that. Just have a support system, get you 1254 01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:04,760 Speaker 1: through your healing process and you're fine. Right. It's so crazy. 1255 01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,560 Speaker 1: So I just think it's so crazy when you go 1256 01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,160 Speaker 1: on when you're on social media, you see all these 1257 01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:13,120 Speaker 1: like white girls and they come off as black and 1258 01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,600 Speaker 1: people think they're exotic. But then when they wash that 1259 01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,880 Speaker 1: ship off their face, because you teach people to love 1260 01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,880 Speaker 1: everything but hate theirselves, and that has worked on us 1261 01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,760 Speaker 1: as a people, as a group of black people, even 1262 01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:25,920 Speaker 1: us as black women. Away we treat each other is 1263 01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,760 Speaker 1: like this takes one also puts into the air and 1264 01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,559 Speaker 1: puts into society to be like oh to treat people 1265 01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:33,640 Speaker 1: that way, like I was fast. Do you think we 1266 01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:37,200 Speaker 1: treat each other? I think that many times we are 1267 01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:40,599 Speaker 1: our worst, our own worst enemies, our own worst critics. 1268 01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:44,960 Speaker 1: Like I've seen people I have friends that when we 1269 01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:46,720 Speaker 1: was looking at J. Cole, they're like, oh J Cole 1270 01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:48,800 Speaker 1: is dirty, and because his hair is growing out of 1271 01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:52,280 Speaker 1: his head in his and in like nappy. But that's 1272 01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:55,680 Speaker 1: the way our hair grows. So it's like when you 1273 01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:57,760 Speaker 1: say things like that, when you put things like that 1274 01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,640 Speaker 1: out in the ears like that, that's the next of connotation. 1275 01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,120 Speaker 1: Like I don't even like that for my son. When 1276 01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:03,800 Speaker 1: people going on like oh yeah here it's peasy. No, 1277 01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,320 Speaker 1: it's not tell them that he's curl tight and they 1278 01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,960 Speaker 1: combing out if you need to. It's just the way 1279 01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,720 Speaker 1: that you how we display messages in our community. It's 1280 01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:16,200 Speaker 1: so like it's just me like even when when people 1281 01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:18,240 Speaker 1: be like, oh, sit your black ass down and do this, 1282 01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,080 Speaker 1: that already makes you think like, oh, it's a negative 1283 01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,960 Speaker 1: thing on the word black, like you, why is there 1284 01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,639 Speaker 1: no positive things about it? Well, bring your beautiful black 1285 01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:32,680 Speaker 1: ass here, say that girl, it's like, and people tell 1286 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:35,560 Speaker 1: that to their kids, like your black ugly ass, but 1287 01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:38,720 Speaker 1: your dog ass and no because he dogs scared and 1288 01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,800 Speaker 1: look how beautiful. And even if they don't talk about 1289 01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,280 Speaker 1: somebody and dog scared, they will just uplift a child. 1290 01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:46,280 Speaker 1: That's a lighter shade that has even you see people 1291 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:48,760 Speaker 1: in our cult, your black girls do it all the time. 1292 01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:50,719 Speaker 1: Oh I want to have a baby with this kind 1293 01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:52,840 Speaker 1: of here, and I have the baby with that kind 1294 01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:56,600 Speaker 1: of here, Like that's disgusting to me. That's disgusting to 1295 01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,599 Speaker 1: me as a black girl with nappy as here, that's 1296 01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,080 Speaker 1: this this thing to me. Okay, I want a doorn 1297 01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:03,599 Speaker 1: were here that look just like moms, so I could 1298 01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:04,920 Speaker 1: teach you how to love her here the way I 1299 01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:08,160 Speaker 1: should have learned to love mine. Like, never would I 1300 01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,080 Speaker 1: would never sit around, I would never be on my 1301 01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:12,360 Speaker 1: my son and a lot of that. A lot of 1302 01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,880 Speaker 1: my ways changed because I had a son. Like I 1303 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:16,680 Speaker 1: was before I was a girl, like, oh, I'm not 1304 01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:18,880 Speaker 1: have a Chinese baby father. When I was young, I 1305 01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:20,479 Speaker 1: used to say stupid stuff like that. But now that 1306 01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:22,519 Speaker 1: I've got older, and I like, where do you think 1307 01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:26,160 Speaker 1: you got that from? Um? Just being around I think 1308 01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:30,240 Speaker 1: almost everybody that's from the hood. Yeah, And it's because 1309 01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,960 Speaker 1: people are uplifting another group. You see that people are 1310 01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:37,360 Speaker 1: saying when Spanish girls come through to her, you see 1311 01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,880 Speaker 1: how your homeboys act. That been chilling with you all day. 1312 01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,240 Speaker 1: Now he got a dollar for Yeah, I no dollar 1313 01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,160 Speaker 1: for you. He couldn't go to the store, he could 1314 01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:47,439 Speaker 1: do nothing. Now he got a dollar. I see what's 1315 01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,800 Speaker 1: going on. And just certain things like that, and that 1316 01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,200 Speaker 1: plays into kid's minds and people don't even realize that 1317 01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:55,080 Speaker 1: that plays onto people. Conversations that you have in your house. 1318 01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:57,320 Speaker 1: Bring me a little ugly black ass here. That plays 1319 01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,559 Speaker 1: on kids. Now they're going to school, like, but you're 1320 01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:04,360 Speaker 1: black as African boy, scratcha And no, my soun already knows. 1321 01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:06,280 Speaker 1: That's not a joke. That's we don't play like that. 1322 01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:09,120 Speaker 1: I'm beautiful and black anytime safe. Something about being black 1323 01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:14,439 Speaker 1: beautiful sounds pretty I'm pretty sure everybody wants to know. 1324 01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:18,080 Speaker 1: Because you've been doing this for what, Senna sennth eight years? 1325 01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:22,760 Speaker 1: What made you stop having a family, I mean not 1326 01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,320 Speaker 1: having a family, but like being involved with somebody where 1327 01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:27,920 Speaker 1: Like he was like, this is a dub. You ain't 1328 01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:31,360 Speaker 1: doing this somewhere. So I was like, you goot to 1329 01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,960 Speaker 1: pay bills? Huh, you about to pay bills? You about 1330 01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:35,880 Speaker 1: to the four family? And he's like, yeah, we be 1331 01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:39,760 Speaker 1: out and out and how was out? Because like I 1332 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:44,400 Speaker 1: felt like it was it was never for me. I 1333 01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,559 Speaker 1: don't know about the people. I can't speak for other people, 1334 01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:50,920 Speaker 1: but this type of industry I don't think you can 1335 01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,840 Speaker 1: do forever. And I think that the people who do 1336 01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:57,120 Speaker 1: do it forever is like somebody who made totally different 1337 01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:01,280 Speaker 1: choices in their lifetime. Um, but I don't want to 1338 01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:03,160 Speaker 1: do this forever. Like I have a calling. I know 1339 01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:07,760 Speaker 1: what my calling is, and I know that like this 1340 01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,519 Speaker 1: is part of it. There's my experiences here. We're definitely 1341 01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:12,320 Speaker 1: a part of it, but it's not for everything. Like 1342 01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,840 Speaker 1: you know, I have shipped to do. But if people, 1343 01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,080 Speaker 1: if the world made ship much easier, people would not 1344 01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,200 Speaker 1: do the sex industry as often as they do. If 1345 01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:25,040 Speaker 1: you made fucking college free or affordable, or housing free 1346 01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:30,400 Speaker 1: or affordable, if you made right, you just made things affordable, 1347 01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,599 Speaker 1: we would not have to worry about so much trafficking 1348 01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,120 Speaker 1: and so much violence and so much harm because people 1349 01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:37,880 Speaker 1: would be able to get the things that they fucking 1350 01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:41,479 Speaker 1: need to live, and you wouldn't have to worry about 1351 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,000 Speaker 1: making these daily choices. And the people who truly choose 1352 01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:45,960 Speaker 1: to do this work can do it in a way 1353 01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:48,840 Speaker 1: that makes sense for them. But because that's not the 1354 01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,519 Speaker 1: society be living, you're only gonna see it in flux. 1355 01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:53,840 Speaker 1: You're only going to see it going up, regardless of 1356 01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,240 Speaker 1: what kind of laws and bills that people put in place. 1357 01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:58,519 Speaker 1: That should don't mean nothing to nobody. When you have 1358 01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:00,599 Speaker 1: rent to pay or mouse the fee, you know, places 1359 01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,880 Speaker 1: to stink, that should don't mean nothing to nobody. Right, 1360 01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:09,880 Speaker 1: So let's so let's talk about club owners. Well, you know, 1361 01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:11,880 Speaker 1: before we do club owners, another question I want to 1362 01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:13,960 Speaker 1: ask you about the whole listen glamor thing, because I 1363 01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:15,800 Speaker 1: know you said something to the effects of like how 1364 01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:17,920 Speaker 1: everybody want to lie be a part of the stripper 1365 01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:20,400 Speaker 1: cultural Like when where the hills. They want to do 1366 01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:22,280 Speaker 1: all these movies and stuff, but like they don't want 1367 01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:25,240 Speaker 1: to fully support strippers. Yeah, what do you mean by that? 1368 01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:28,479 Speaker 1: I mean it's just as simple as like you see 1369 01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:32,240 Speaker 1: girls that are walking around talking about like, oh hot girls, summhere, 1370 01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,439 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a hoe and like you know, they 1371 01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:38,559 Speaker 1: talked about sugar daddies and like you know, singing city 1372 01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,479 Speaker 1: girls lyrics and stuff like that. But it's like then again, 1373 01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:43,680 Speaker 1: when I'm saying like, oh I got that, I got 1374 01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:45,760 Speaker 1: this man to find me out somewhere, you know, last 1375 01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:48,000 Speaker 1: week or something like that, Oh she's a hope because 1376 01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:49,519 Speaker 1: she's a stripper, Like you know what I mean. So 1377 01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:51,519 Speaker 1: you can't really have that double standard when you're sitting 1378 01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:53,640 Speaker 1: here singing these song lyrics, but then you're calling the 1379 01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,439 Speaker 1: people that are actually living these lives. You're looking down 1380 01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:57,640 Speaker 1: on them and like you know what I mean, And 1381 01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:00,439 Speaker 1: that's what's continuing to cause this horror o bia in 1382 01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:04,720 Speaker 1: the world. Right Well, um, I interview at escort and 1383 01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:08,080 Speaker 1: she said, ho arkery, Yeah, exactly exactly. That's a better 1384 01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:11,960 Speaker 1: one to you. It's like the prost to look crazy 1385 01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,080 Speaker 1: at the n scores. The n scorts look down on 1386 01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:17,479 Speaker 1: the strippers exactly what exactly and yeah, and that's why 1387 01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,679 Speaker 1: people don't even realize even within our own community, there's 1388 01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:24,799 Speaker 1: so much slut shing. Like I was watching UM special 1389 01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:28,280 Speaker 1: in the movie Hustlers, and they were talking about, Yeah, 1390 01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,559 Speaker 1: the girls didn't want to actually have sex with the men, 1391 01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:32,800 Speaker 1: so they would go online and find, you know, women 1392 01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:34,600 Speaker 1: on back at the time, Backpage was so up of 1393 01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,439 Speaker 1: course Backpage and Craigslist and would have sex with these men. 1394 01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:39,400 Speaker 1: But it's like, I don't like how people want to 1395 01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:41,280 Speaker 1: look down in the next type of sex work, you 1396 01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:42,960 Speaker 1: know what I mean, And that is not going to 1397 01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,320 Speaker 1: help us further ourselves in any type of way to 1398 01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:48,360 Speaker 1: continue to slutghing others just because you won't do something. 1399 01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:50,840 Speaker 1: That's how another girl survives and that's how she makes 1400 01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:52,960 Speaker 1: sure that she eats and that her bills are paid. 1401 01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,719 Speaker 1: So right, how do you feel about the movie Hustlers 1402 01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,040 Speaker 1: or like a Players Club or any movie that depicts 1403 01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:03,080 Speaker 1: the stripper industry. See, it's like it's very tricky, especially 1404 01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,200 Speaker 1: right now. Of course, a lot I feel like there's 1405 01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:07,759 Speaker 1: a lot of mixed emotions among the sex or community 1406 01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,720 Speaker 1: about the movie, about the movie Hustlers, and specific just 1407 01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:15,200 Speaker 1: because of certain things, because of one lack of representation. 1408 01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:17,559 Speaker 1: I feel like I haven't yet talked about it yet. Yeah, 1409 01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:19,280 Speaker 1: I've been waiting to see if I really want to 1410 01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,080 Speaker 1: go see the movie. I think I'm gonna go see it. 1411 01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:22,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go see it too, because I want to 1412 01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,160 Speaker 1: see what everybody is talking about. Yeah, but I was 1413 01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:28,800 Speaker 1: doing some research about the producers of the movie and 1414 01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,639 Speaker 1: one thing that personally I didn't like was that out 1415 01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:35,840 Speaker 1: of the eleven producers, six of them were white women, 1416 01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:40,040 Speaker 1: three were white men, and then Jla was a producer, 1417 01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:43,720 Speaker 1: and then um there was someone named Benny Medina and 1418 01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:49,000 Speaker 1: he was actually accused of attempted sexual assault, and um, 1419 01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:51,519 Speaker 1: I forget the last person, but um, yeah, I was 1420 01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:54,560 Speaker 1: very just disappointed with the lack of diversity behind the 1421 01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,400 Speaker 1: scenes because I feel like oftentimes in Hollywood, they want 1422 01:15:57,439 --> 01:15:59,439 Speaker 1: to produce like of course they have like Lizzo and 1423 01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:03,720 Speaker 1: um Kiki Palmer and Constant constant Woo, so they want 1424 01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,160 Speaker 1: to push diversity on the screen, but it's like, where's 1425 01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:09,720 Speaker 1: the diversity behind you know, that's the one that's making 1426 01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:13,680 Speaker 1: the voices exactly the strips, you know what I mean? 1427 01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,800 Speaker 1: And people are very complicated about Jack the Stripper as well, 1428 01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:20,040 Speaker 1: um consulting for the movie. And I feel like that Jack, 1429 01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:25,280 Speaker 1: she did attempt to just try to try to show 1430 01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:27,400 Speaker 1: us in the best like that she could and really 1431 01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:31,040 Speaker 1: try to tell Jack the Stripper, she is a um 1432 01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:35,960 Speaker 1: she is she's a Yeah, she's a dancer, she's well 1433 01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,280 Speaker 1: she is a white woman. She's a dancer. Um, she 1434 01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:40,920 Speaker 1: is a comedian. She makes are you should really check 1435 01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,720 Speaker 1: her out on Instagram. Um. And you know, she was 1436 01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,120 Speaker 1: a consultant for the movie of Hustlers, and I think 1437 01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:50,040 Speaker 1: people I have seen people bashing her on Twitter and 1438 01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:52,680 Speaker 1: saying like she's, um just trying to be like the 1439 01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:55,560 Speaker 1: white face of the stripper community. And I don't necessarily 1440 01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:57,479 Speaker 1: think that's what she's trying to do, because let's be real, 1441 01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:58,720 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, if any of us 1442 01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,040 Speaker 1: could console on a movie, we would like you know, 1443 01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:03,960 Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, I feel like she tried 1444 01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,360 Speaker 1: to just highlight us in the best life that she could. 1445 01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:09,360 Speaker 1: But at the same time, like you know, one stripper 1446 01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,599 Speaker 1: story can't represent every stripper story. And I don't mean 1447 01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:14,560 Speaker 1: that as far as race, but I just mean it 1448 01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:17,559 Speaker 1: as far as like, you know, just one white woman 1449 01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:19,920 Speaker 1: and that's the stripper will go through a different thing. 1450 01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:22,080 Speaker 1: Is that another white woman as an escort will like 1451 01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:25,760 Speaker 1: that's just you know the realities of it. So yeah, So, last, 1452 01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:28,519 Speaker 1: but not least, would you do it all over again 1453 01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:35,479 Speaker 1: if you could? Right that you can't get me to stop? 1454 01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:39,640 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Like you have unaddicted to my lifestyle, 1455 01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:43,559 Speaker 1: and I'm addicted to being able to help other women. 1456 01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:45,160 Speaker 1: I realized the whole reason why I got in this 1457 01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:47,960 Speaker 1: game is because I like to cape for hose. I 1458 01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:51,040 Speaker 1: realized that I always had a stigma about me for 1459 01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:53,400 Speaker 1: some reason my whole life. People always thought I was 1460 01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:55,600 Speaker 1: at home where they thought I was fast, or they 1461 01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:57,360 Speaker 1: thought I was you know what I mean, a freak 1462 01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:59,080 Speaker 1: and all that, and I never was any of those things. 1463 01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:00,880 Speaker 1: And he used to bother me. But then like the 1464 01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,479 Speaker 1: inside part of me that was like, well, why are 1465 01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,920 Speaker 1: you bothered by that? Like there are girls that are 1466 01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:07,599 Speaker 1: like that, but are you gonna look down on them? 1467 01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:09,800 Speaker 1: And I'm like, well no, it's like, well why are 1468 01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:11,680 Speaker 1: you having a problem with people assuming that you are 1469 01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:13,960 Speaker 1: that even though you're not. So then I started getting 1470 01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:16,479 Speaker 1: pissed for the bitches that were so then I wanted 1471 01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:20,080 Speaker 1: to be yo, that's something real ship though, because I 1472 01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,000 Speaker 1: had somebody like that when I was growing up. She 1473 01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:24,679 Speaker 1: was like my teacher and she thought I was so fast, 1474 01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,120 Speaker 1: so this and that mess with all the boys, I 1475 01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:30,160 Speaker 1: wasn't doing ship and everybody who she thought was innocent 1476 01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,760 Speaker 1: and I feel like push judgment or anything on that. 1477 01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:35,920 Speaker 1: But now they have kids struggling this and that, and 1478 01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:37,639 Speaker 1: I was like, and when she seen me, she couldn't 1479 01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:39,080 Speaker 1: even say nothing that And I used to always be like, 1480 01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:44,160 Speaker 1: remember what you said about me? Exactly exactly. There was boys, moms, 1481 01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,720 Speaker 1: there was teachers, there's people in church. It's always yea, 1482 01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,759 Speaker 1: and it's coming from a woman from growing as adults, 1483 01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:54,560 Speaker 1: and I'm like, what are you talking about? Like, But 1484 01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:56,640 Speaker 1: that's how I learned about self projection. As I got 1485 01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,600 Speaker 1: older in life, I realized, oh, it's just self projection. 1486 01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:04,120 Speaker 1: You're trying to project your fast as on me work. 1487 01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:06,439 Speaker 1: But in the meantime and between time, I found a 1488 01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:09,080 Speaker 1: love for holes because I felt like it was an 1489 01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:10,760 Speaker 1: insult to be called one, but I didn't think that 1490 01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:12,760 Speaker 1: it was, so I had to. I wanted to do 1491 01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:15,160 Speaker 1: something to where women could feel like they could have 1492 01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:18,799 Speaker 1: somebody to talk to about it and have a resource 1493 01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,000 Speaker 1: of like if they want to change their lifestyle, okay, 1494 01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:24,080 Speaker 1: But also if you're in this lifestyle, you don't have 1495 01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:26,200 Speaker 1: to run in like shout it out to the world. 1496 01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:28,479 Speaker 1: But don't be ashamed of it. That's the only thing 1497 01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:30,400 Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell, Like, if you're gonna be a 1498 01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:33,000 Speaker 1: sex worker, the worst thing you could ever do is 1499 01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:34,880 Speaker 1: be ashamed of it because of the energy that you're 1500 01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:37,280 Speaker 1: working with is so real. It will haunt you and 1501 01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:39,759 Speaker 1: it will end up being a curse instead of a blessing. 1502 01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,200 Speaker 1: So if it's something that you can't do, you need 1503 01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:45,240 Speaker 1: to get the funk out. The industry is not for everybody. 1504 01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:49,200 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. I'm talked about the type of man that 1505 01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:54,160 Speaker 1: you want to be before you transition. M hmm. I 1506 01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:57,680 Speaker 1: wanted to be in like, want to be the man 1507 01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,559 Speaker 1: that I see around me that are good and nurturing. 1508 01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:04,600 Speaker 1: So I had I have. I have good examples of 1509 01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:07,400 Speaker 1: men in my life, like my brothers and my father, 1510 01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,160 Speaker 1: and we we have been really around and really consistent, 1511 01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:14,240 Speaker 1: um who are really tender. UM. I also want to 1512 01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:18,760 Speaker 1: be like my when it's not just a man. But 1513 01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:22,520 Speaker 1: I think about masculinity as a whole um and masculinely, 1514 01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:28,560 Speaker 1: that's not about having these ways that reduces their emotional 1515 01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:32,960 Speaker 1: intelligence um, but actually increases it. UM. I think that 1516 01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:36,720 Speaker 1: these ideas of men are masculinely. They feel like they're 1517 01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:40,640 Speaker 1: supposed to be tied together. But we know that you 1518 01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:43,320 Speaker 1: could be You could be born a guy and not 1519 01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:48,280 Speaker 1: treat women correctly. You can you can over talk, you 1520 01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:50,720 Speaker 1: can talk louder than them and not listen to them 1521 01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:55,000 Speaker 1: in your office and workspaces um or in order to that, 1522 01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:58,240 Speaker 1: will like to explain to you things that you already 1523 01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:01,280 Speaker 1: have knowledge and um. And so I don't want to 1524 01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:06,760 Speaker 1: be that a fun boys to be working with that word. 1525 01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:13,479 Speaker 1: You're like man masculinity, which I don't want to be. 1526 01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:17,439 Speaker 1: And that's a good UM. I was checking. I don't 1527 01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:19,679 Speaker 1: about that. So I want to be the alpha inspection. 1528 01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:24,519 Speaker 1: I'm I feel lucky, like twenty nine years of walking 1529 01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,400 Speaker 1: in the world as a black woman in gender knocking 1530 01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:29,640 Speaker 1: for in presson, I want to be I want to 1531 01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:31,439 Speaker 1: bring all that to manhood. I just want to look 1532 01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:36,960 Speaker 1: a particular way, you know, be there like stuffed and 1533 01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:45,360 Speaker 1: husky and hands can talk us through the day. When 1534 01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:50,000 Speaker 1: you first got your first silicone injection. Um, it was 1535 01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:53,479 Speaker 1: so weird because I was so excited. I was so 1536 01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:55,920 Speaker 1: pumped up that that was just like, oh my god, 1537 01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:59,120 Speaker 1: you gotta count down. Like I was so amped up, like, 1538 01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:00,880 Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm a boy to have a shape 1539 01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:02,560 Speaker 1: like I have when I said I had no but 1540 01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:06,000 Speaker 1: like none, so I was just like, oh my god, 1541 01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:07,559 Speaker 1: Oh my god. And they was like, oh, you gotta 1542 01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:12,160 Speaker 1: calm down. So they made me smoke some weeds and 1543 01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:15,519 Speaker 1: I don't smoke, so it was like smellow me out 1544 01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:18,400 Speaker 1: because I was so amped up. And when I got it, 1545 01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:21,439 Speaker 1: I was like looking and I was like, oh, oh 1546 01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:24,840 Speaker 1: my god. They was like can you be still? But 1547 01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:26,640 Speaker 1: I was like I couldn't believe. It was blowing up 1548 01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:29,160 Speaker 1: like a balloon, you know, And it was just like, 1549 01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:32,040 Speaker 1: oh my god. So wait the WILSA procedure because I 1550 01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,360 Speaker 1: know it is because I was there when somebody got done. 1551 01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:38,200 Speaker 1: So they was there somebody's house or yeah, it was 1552 01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:41,840 Speaker 1: at somebody's house. And then um, it was just like 1553 01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:46,000 Speaker 1: literally like you know, they were very clean, you know, 1554 01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:51,520 Speaker 1: very alcohol rubber gloves, like everything clean and in sanitary. 1555 01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:54,680 Speaker 1: But it was just like you just get injection, you 1556 01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:56,000 Speaker 1: know what I mean it's just like a needle with 1557 01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:59,320 Speaker 1: the silicone in it. It was looked like water and 1558 01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,280 Speaker 1: when you when you see it, and then it just 1559 01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:04,200 Speaker 1: was blowing up like a balloon. And they was just 1560 01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:08,240 Speaker 1: doing it like in a pattern to like blow it, 1561 01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,120 Speaker 1: you know, to blow it up your butt up to 1562 01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:13,759 Speaker 1: make a shape basically. So when you were seeing this happened, 1563 01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:17,840 Speaker 1: it was like your immediate response. I was pumped. It 1564 01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:21,320 Speaker 1: was like, can you be still? But I was so excited. 1565 01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:24,160 Speaker 1: It was just like, you know, I get really amped 1566 01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:26,880 Speaker 1: up when I know I'm about to do something. So 1567 01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:30,080 Speaker 1: it was just trying to calm me down from excitement. 1568 01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:34,160 Speaker 1: And then afterwards they finished and they just had me 1569 01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:36,320 Speaker 1: kind of leaned forward and they just kind of like 1570 01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:39,720 Speaker 1: duct tape they putt it was like saran wrap, and 1571 01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:44,479 Speaker 1: then they duct tape around for like the shape and 1572 01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:50,439 Speaker 1: go ahead. I'm trying to think. You couldn't sit on 1573 01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:54,240 Speaker 1: it for like eight hours if I remember correctly. And 1574 01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:57,080 Speaker 1: then you get in a hot tub of water, like 1575 01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:59,519 Speaker 1: a hot hot bath, and you do it like to 1576 01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:02,360 Speaker 1: you know, let it cool off. Rent you know, rents 1577 01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:05,040 Speaker 1: running again for like two or three times, and then 1578 01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,280 Speaker 1: I was it and it was like magic. It was like, 1579 01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:09,200 Speaker 1: oh my god, I gotta shape. I didn't really, Oh 1580 01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:13,919 Speaker 1: my god, how did it feel? It felt like regular, 1581 01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:19,000 Speaker 1: like like regular, but it wasn't hard. It was just 1582 01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:23,200 Speaker 1: like jellylight. Yeah, I know you was feeling it. Oh 1583 01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:25,360 Speaker 1: my god. I was like, oh, this is great. But 1584 01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,599 Speaker 1: you know what, because I was so small the first 1585 01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:31,519 Speaker 1: time that I got it done, it was like a 1586 01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:36,160 Speaker 1: normal size, like no, it was it was wasn't big, 1587 01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:38,600 Speaker 1: but it was like something there. You know. I was 1588 01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:41,080 Speaker 1: gonna ask you how many times afterwards did you? Did 1589 01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:45,120 Speaker 1: you receive their injections? Um? I got my butt done 1590 01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:49,040 Speaker 1: twice and then I was so thin I ended up 1591 01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:52,200 Speaker 1: getting hips too. Oh wow. And it was the hills, 1592 01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:56,720 Speaker 1: the same procedure as the butt, same thing. Well, my 1593 01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:59,439 Speaker 1: last question, and I want you to answer this and 1594 01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:03,519 Speaker 1: from two different perspectives. So the question is what are 1595 01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:07,160 Speaker 1: your thoughts on the Collique Brawler story and the reason 1596 01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,040 Speaker 1: why I'm asking you this? For those who haven't wanted, 1597 01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:11,519 Speaker 1: the documentary is about the the young black boy. He 1598 01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:14,679 Speaker 1: was sixteen. He went straight to Riker's allan over a backpack. 1599 01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:17,400 Speaker 1: And when I was watching the documentary, I was just like, 1600 01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:19,760 Speaker 1: I mean it really like broke my heart, right, And 1601 01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:21,840 Speaker 1: I think another reason when I broke my heart because 1602 01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:24,360 Speaker 1: I'm just like, damn, like when you watch these documentaries 1603 01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:27,439 Speaker 1: and like writerers and certain jails, it's not the black 1604 01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:32,759 Speaker 1: people in those jails, right, And that like really affected 1605 01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:34,680 Speaker 1: me because it's like, damn, like these are that could 1606 01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:37,559 Speaker 1: have been my brother or something, So like, how does 1607 01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:39,280 Speaker 1: that make? What are your thoughts? I mean from a 1608 01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:46,400 Speaker 1: CEO perspective, Um, from a c old perspective. I watched it. 1609 01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,479 Speaker 1: I didn't watch the story. I watched it, and I 1610 01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:55,120 Speaker 1: watched it and said, um, something happened as far as 1611 01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:59,840 Speaker 1: the reason why the officer reacted the way that he 1612 01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:02,760 Speaker 1: did when one part where he was like fighting with 1613 01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,599 Speaker 1: the officer or whatever the case, maybe it's a reason 1614 01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:09,920 Speaker 1: why he was in protective custody for so long, right, 1615 01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:11,920 Speaker 1: and and not protective custody where he was in like 1616 01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,240 Speaker 1: the being area when you buy yourself or whatever case 1617 01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:18,960 Speaker 1: may be. He had to be doing stuff in order 1618 01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:21,519 Speaker 1: for those things to happen, right, So we just don't go, 1619 01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:24,240 Speaker 1: you're an asshole, we don't like you. We're gonna throw 1620 01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:26,880 Speaker 1: you in the cell because we don't like you. He 1621 01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:29,880 Speaker 1: might have been doing stuff to get into the being. 1622 01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:31,720 Speaker 1: Like I just said, the guy assaulted me to be 1623 01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:34,599 Speaker 1: by himself because he was getting beat up all the time, 1624 01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:38,040 Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be. There was reactions from 1625 01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:42,799 Speaker 1: the officers from his actions that I saw that clearly 1626 01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:45,840 Speaker 1: because I'm like, yeah, we just don't start fighting people. 1627 01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:49,639 Speaker 1: That just doesn't happen. Something happened, and so yeah, I'm 1628 01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:51,960 Speaker 1: able to look at it a different where people are 1629 01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:54,280 Speaker 1: probably go, why are they doing that to him? Why 1630 01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:56,320 Speaker 1: they Oh, they're so funked up. That's what they do. 1631 01:26:56,479 --> 01:27:00,160 Speaker 1: They just assault people. We don't the massive then ask 1632 01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:03,080 Speaker 1: majority of officers don't. I don't want to fight most officers. 1633 01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:04,439 Speaker 1: I don't want to come to work and just fight. 1634 01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:06,479 Speaker 1: I'm not just coming to work to just punch somebody 1635 01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:08,479 Speaker 1: in their face because I know it's a whole bunch 1636 01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:10,639 Speaker 1: of stuff that happens after that, Right, even if it's 1637 01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:12,640 Speaker 1: the little worst thing about writing a report about what 1638 01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:14,120 Speaker 1: I have, a lot of officers don't even want to 1639 01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:16,559 Speaker 1: write reports, you know what I'm saying. So we don't 1640 01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:18,200 Speaker 1: get to just punch people in the face and then 1641 01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:20,160 Speaker 1: they throw them in the cell and then it just 1642 01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:23,639 Speaker 1: goes away. If there's a whole process that happens after 1643 01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:26,400 Speaker 1: that that none time out of ten officers don't want 1644 01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:29,799 Speaker 1: to do. So if we're going through that, something happened, 1645 01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:35,560 Speaker 1: and it might have been from karlif wanting to be 1646 01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:39,320 Speaker 1: in a place where he felt safe and protective, protected. 1647 01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:41,840 Speaker 1: A lot of gods wants to be by themselves, but 1648 01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:45,400 Speaker 1: Jell is mostly not by yourself, So that might have 1649 01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,920 Speaker 1: been his angle, But I don't know. But my second 1650 01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:50,519 Speaker 1: question is from my mother's perspective, how did you feel 1651 01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:56,559 Speaker 1: From a mother's perspective, I felt like the system felt 1652 01:27:57,080 --> 01:28:00,320 Speaker 1: before he got to write this Island, the system failed 1653 01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:04,280 Speaker 1: him right. And so a lot of the times that uh, 1654 01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:07,519 Speaker 1: things happen I see on the news or things happen 1655 01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:10,160 Speaker 1: on the street right before my eyes. A lot of 1656 01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:13,080 Speaker 1: the times the system gets away with a lot of 1657 01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:17,439 Speaker 1: things because we just don't know right. We don't know 1658 01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:21,000 Speaker 1: the laws, we don't know our rights, we don't know 1659 01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:24,120 Speaker 1: what we can and can. We haven't trained our children 1660 01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:27,360 Speaker 1: right what to say, what not to say, what to do, 1661 01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:31,000 Speaker 1: what not to do, and so the system plays on that. 1662 01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:35,280 Speaker 1: If do you think that it's just correction officers that's corrupt, 1663 01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:38,479 Speaker 1: you have d A's that's corrupting. Have lawyers that's come up, right, 1664 01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:40,640 Speaker 1: you have judges that's come up. You have and not 1665 01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,559 Speaker 1: even corrupt. They just don't care. You're just a number. 1666 01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:46,679 Speaker 1: They want to get done with you. They it's Friday, 1667 01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:49,360 Speaker 1: they're thinking about the vacation they're about to take. So 1668 01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:51,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna not because part of his story was that 1669 01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:55,040 Speaker 1: they just kept not him his case, right, they kept 1670 01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:57,759 Speaker 1: he kept coming, showing up to court and then prolonging 1671 01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:00,080 Speaker 1: his case. Prolonging his case was made him stay to 1672 01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:03,720 Speaker 1: Alan longer and longer. Right, the system fell to him 1673 01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:06,800 Speaker 1: at some point. So as a mother's point of view, 1674 01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:09,720 Speaker 1: I was saddened by that because I am a mother. 1675 01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:12,280 Speaker 1: I do have a young black child, but I but 1676 01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,719 Speaker 1: because of this job. That's how my job has class 1677 01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:19,200 Speaker 1: played a role in me being a parent. Right, I'm 1678 01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:22,559 Speaker 1: harder on my kids because I'm like, Oh, you don't 1679 01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:23,960 Speaker 1: want to go to jail, you don't want to go 1680 01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:27,800 Speaker 1: to workers at you're understaying. If the cops stop you, Uh, 1681 01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:31,240 Speaker 1: this is what you're supposed to say, absolutely nothing, right, 1682 01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:34,200 Speaker 1: you don't admit to nothing, you know whatever. Like it's 1683 01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:37,719 Speaker 1: certain ways that because of this job, I'm a little 1684 01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,479 Speaker 1: harder on my kids. I'm more aware of other things 1685 01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:44,519 Speaker 1: that you see our communities unfortunately. Yeah, and I work 1686 01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:48,599 Speaker 1: in a yeah yeah, so I work with d as, 1687 01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:54,160 Speaker 1: I work with police, I work with It's how somebody 1688 01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:56,120 Speaker 1: could get lost. That's what happened with colleague. He got 1689 01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:58,600 Speaker 1: lost in the system for a book that you know 1690 01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:00,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He got lost in system. So he 1691 01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:05,320 Speaker 1: was felled time and time again before anything ever happened 1692 01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:08,960 Speaker 1: with he was felt like I could not have asked 1693 01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:10,680 Speaker 1: for a better set of friends. And I feel like 1694 01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:13,880 Speaker 1: we all just been through so much like everybody. Mom 1695 01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:17,400 Speaker 1: played a major part in my upbringing. Song Girl, I 1696 01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:20,920 Speaker 1: am so appreciative all of y'all. I am so thankful 1697 01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:29,880 Speaker 1: for all y'all. And once I make it girl now 1698 01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:31,920 Speaker 1: because I think it's important to get people their flowers 1699 01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:33,880 Speaker 1: because you know, life is very hard and we all 1700 01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:37,480 Speaker 1: been through so much. Ship. You know, everybody's having children 1701 01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:46,800 Speaker 1: and everybody have lives. I think for me, you know, 1702 01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:48,560 Speaker 1: so I just think that what this means to me 1703 01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:51,080 Speaker 1: is for us to just continue to grow our friendship 1704 01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:54,720 Speaker 1: and to continue to just be when we're asking each 1705 01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:57,120 Speaker 1: other because life is short and I don't ever want 1706 01:30:57,160 --> 01:30:59,400 Speaker 1: to have to go a day with think him, Damn, 1707 01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:01,240 Speaker 1: what if I would have made that phone call, or 1708 01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:03,519 Speaker 1: what if I would have linked up with song so 1709 01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:06,960 Speaker 1: or this and that. So. I hope that this episode 1710 01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:09,320 Speaker 1: encouraged everyone that's listening to reach out to those who 1711 01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:11,439 Speaker 1: really matter to them, because life was really short and 1712 01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:15,519 Speaker 1: you just never know what people are going through, and 1713 01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:20,280 Speaker 1: they call can change Yeah, just being wrong and feel 1714 01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:22,960 Speaker 1: unfeelter you. We'll just listen to your podcasts and different 1715 01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:28,120 Speaker 1: things that tastes for like my girls, like they don't 1716 01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:30,599 Speaker 1: even realize, just the answering on the phone call hear 1717 01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:33,880 Speaker 1: and them breathing, or just anything of positively you can 1718 01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:38,160 Speaker 1: change word the dark spot that was more prettier than 1719 01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:41,719 Speaker 1: the light that I can walk to and then's deepest. 1720 01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:44,360 Speaker 1: That's why I pride myself for my friends. I've been 1721 01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:47,639 Speaker 1: ferenced my friends to third. When I see people, I'm like, damn, 1722 01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:49,519 Speaker 1: you were just hanging with someone someone out of the 1723 01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:54,040 Speaker 1: pay six months. Now it's like you're little flopping. It's 1724 01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:56,800 Speaker 1: like I feel like and I think like, I don't 1725 01:31:57,360 --> 01:31:59,479 Speaker 1: I feel like we got a good platform for us 1726 01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:03,320 Speaker 1: or your friendship ease. They might not see it when 1727 01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:10,439 Speaker 1: people look at their likes. That's being very solid versus 1728 01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:18,040 Speaker 1: the what looks good. What is an advice you would 1729 01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:20,600 Speaker 1: give to the listeners if they want to lead a 1730 01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:24,600 Speaker 1: more fulfilling life. One. I think if you are in 1731 01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:27,760 Speaker 1: a place where your life is not fulfilling, sit down 1732 01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:30,840 Speaker 1: and talk to someone and figure out why, right, Um, 1733 01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:33,360 Speaker 1: figure out why we are still doing the same thing 1734 01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:36,599 Speaker 1: over and over again expecting a different result. Um, Which 1735 01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:39,640 Speaker 1: is the definition of insanity. I'm doing the same thing 1736 01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:42,000 Speaker 1: every day, and I think it's going to be better, 1737 01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:44,680 Speaker 1: So sit down and talk to someone. The other thing 1738 01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:47,280 Speaker 1: is really sitting down and saying, you know, where do 1739 01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:49,560 Speaker 1: I want to see my life go? You know, I 1740 01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:52,000 Speaker 1: am doing the same thing over and over again, but 1741 01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:54,240 Speaker 1: maybe I don't even have a trajectory on where my 1742 01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:56,439 Speaker 1: life should go or where I wanted to go. Um, 1743 01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:59,599 Speaker 1: sitting down with yourself, by yourself and saying, what can 1744 01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:02,599 Speaker 1: I magine happening in my life five years from now, 1745 01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:05,320 Speaker 1: seven years from now, with no holds barred, Because sometimes 1746 01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:06,960 Speaker 1: we do them and we're like, well, I don't know 1747 01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:09,880 Speaker 1: if I'm gonna have money for that house. We don't know, right, 1748 01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:12,120 Speaker 1: and we can get you there. We don't have to 1749 01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:15,160 Speaker 1: dream with like limits on it. So allow when people 1750 01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:17,040 Speaker 1: to sit with themselves and say, where do I see 1751 01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:19,560 Speaker 1: myself going? And if I'm capable of getting there on 1752 01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:21,400 Speaker 1: my own. If I'm not, let me reach out to 1753 01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:24,360 Speaker 1: someone and talk to them about it. Yeah. I even 1754 01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:27,280 Speaker 1: say that people do four or five sessions. You don't 1755 01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:29,200 Speaker 1: have to walk into it with a lifelong you know, 1756 01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:32,320 Speaker 1: commitment to it. Do four four or five sessions get 1757 01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:35,360 Speaker 1: some insight. Have you ever told somebody that you think 1758 01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:38,320 Speaker 1: their time is done, like they reached their highest potential? 1759 01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:42,599 Speaker 1: What do you mean my highest potential? Like you feel 1760 01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:45,559 Speaker 1: like maybe they have reached the highest level of their 1761 01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:47,720 Speaker 1: growth like they was doing they did so well over 1762 01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:49,880 Speaker 1: the years, and there's no need to like unless they 1763 01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:53,240 Speaker 1: really need to come back to you. I've never said 1764 01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:55,879 Speaker 1: that to a person. What I usually do with clients 1765 01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:59,920 Speaker 1: is maybe monthly or every two months, we'll sit down 1766 01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:02,640 Speaker 1: and talk about the progress UM that they've had and 1767 01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:04,960 Speaker 1: what are the growth you know, places in their lives 1768 01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:07,960 Speaker 1: that they have grown UM. And then I will say 1769 01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:10,640 Speaker 1: to them what do we want to work on next? UM? 1770 01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:15,400 Speaker 1: But therapy is life is like like you're like an onion. 1771 01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:18,240 Speaker 1: So you'll come for a couple of days or a 1772 01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:20,680 Speaker 1: couple of couple of sessions and you're just peeling off 1773 01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:23,960 Speaker 1: the outside layers a lot of Yeah, so you learn 1774 01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:26,639 Speaker 1: about those things, and as you get through that, another 1775 01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:29,240 Speaker 1: bunch of layers come, and then another bunch of layers come, 1776 01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:32,439 Speaker 1: um and you continuously do it right until you get 1777 01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:35,840 Speaker 1: to the point where you're like, oh, everything has changed, 1778 01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:38,120 Speaker 1: and then it's like, I don't want it to ever 1779 01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:40,840 Speaker 1: go back to that. So most people are like, I'll 1780 01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:42,840 Speaker 1: check in with you once a month. I will have 1781 01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:45,879 Speaker 1: these months a month check ins because life still happens 1782 01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:48,720 Speaker 1: all the time and I'm gonna be triggered still. I'm 1783 01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:53,000 Speaker 1: not healed one where life don't make me feel anyway. 1784 01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:57,040 Speaker 1: Sometimes people check in every couple of months because something happens, right. 1785 01:34:57,479 --> 01:34:59,840 Speaker 1: They get married, baby is born, a job is law, 1786 01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:03,320 Speaker 1: a relationship is lost. And when those things happen and 1787 01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:06,280 Speaker 1: we're in emotional distress, it's so easy for us to 1788 01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:09,000 Speaker 1: shift back into who used to be, even if it's 1789 01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:11,040 Speaker 1: only for a moment. But you want to make sure 1790 01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:13,120 Speaker 1: that you have a lifeline to someone that can say, 1791 01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:16,519 Speaker 1: all right, so this happened, We're okay, right, We're okay. 1792 01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:18,559 Speaker 1: Life shook you for a little bit. Things are gonna 1793 01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:22,479 Speaker 1: be okay. We're gonna move forward. Breathe, breathe, yes, breathe. 1794 01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:24,439 Speaker 1: And I remember my therapist to say that too. I 1795 01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:26,920 Speaker 1: used to be like, oh my god, it's a catastrophe. Yeah, 1796 01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:28,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if I ever make it, and she 1797 01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:30,720 Speaker 1: would be like, just breathe. We're gonna get through this. 1798 01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,040 Speaker 1: It was just a bump in the road, right. Life 1799 01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:35,320 Speaker 1: comes in others and flows, and let's get through this together. 1800 01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:37,720 Speaker 1: And last we not at least list some advice you 1801 01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:40,439 Speaker 1: would give to our listeners if they found out they 1802 01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:45,240 Speaker 1: was HIV positive. I know that it's not the end 1803 01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:48,320 Speaker 1: of your life. I know that you're bigger than your 1804 01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:51,920 Speaker 1: h than HIV. That's only a small piece of your life. 1805 01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:54,280 Speaker 1: It's not a big piece of you. And it's not 1806 01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:58,160 Speaker 1: who you are, it's who God choose you to be. 1807 01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:01,640 Speaker 1: And believe, no matter of what dog space you in, 1808 01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:05,360 Speaker 1: God has a purpose for your life. And you have 1809 01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:08,599 Speaker 1: to find that purpose and you have to live that purpose. 1810 01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:12,120 Speaker 1: And that's what makes you great. Not how many times 1811 01:36:12,200 --> 01:36:14,040 Speaker 1: you fall down, but how many times you get back 1812 01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:18,919 Speaker 1: up again. And I hope you guys enjoyed this week's episode. 1813 01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:21,800 Speaker 1: If you have any questions or comments want to email 1814 01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:25,120 Speaker 1: me about a particular segment from this week's episode, please 1815 01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:28,479 Speaker 1: email me at hello at the pH D podcast dot com. 1816 01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:30,960 Speaker 1: Until next time, guys Later,