1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: I don't know every day waiting click your ass up 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 2: You know, I'm finished for y'all. 4 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Dune Morning. 5 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 3: Everybody is DJ n V, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the God. 6 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club. Nona Roses here as well. 7 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 3: We got a special guest in the building. 8 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, we got Gucci Mains. 9 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 3: Welcome. How y'all feeling, y'all look amazing? 10 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: Thank you? 11 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: New book out episodes. Yes, man, I thoroughly enjoyed your book, 12 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: Gucci Man, because you know, we give people props when 13 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: we were younger for being real and with a lot 14 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: of things that we say is real. It's like when 15 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: somebody gangster with somebody, you know, we call them tough. 16 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: But to me, the most realist thing you can do 17 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: is you get older, just be vulnerable, you know what 18 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: I mean, and going to journey of healing and share 19 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: that journey with people. And you definitely did that in 20 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: this book. 21 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate that. 22 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 4: I always see you talking about mental health while be 23 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 4: listening to y'all. 24 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 2: You always championing mentsal health, you know what I'm saying. 25 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 4: So that's my I said, make sure y'all get that 26 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 4: book to Charlagne before I come up there. 27 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely I knew he was gonna read it. Absolutely, Yeah. 28 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 3: So what got you to the point where he said, 29 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 3: this is the time to share the story because most 30 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 3: people will say, like, you know, I don't want to 31 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 3: share that story. It might be embarrassing, it might make 32 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 3: me look this way. But you were open and completely 33 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 3: open about it. What got you to that point was like, 34 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 3: this is the. 35 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 4: Time I had when I had an episode in like 36 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 4: twenty nineteen or twenty twenty round COVID, and that was 37 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 4: just like like after that, I was like, man, I 38 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 4: gotta really just hold myself accountable and take care of 39 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 4: my health. I don't never want to have an episode again. 40 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm gonna se a therapist if I had 41 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 4: to take medicine. I just I kind of like through 42 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 4: the chidland, like you know what I need to do 43 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 4: to get better. I just did never want to have 44 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 4: that happen again. And then my wife was pregnant with 45 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 4: my little but I'm like, I don't never want to 46 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 4: I don't want to raise a family, and then my 47 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 4: mental health gone with. 48 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 2: If I have an episode, I can't come back from you. 49 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 4: Know what, I'm saying, so I just like starting to 50 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 4: do the work and like started seeking the help. 51 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: Keisha, I'm glad you here because we always have conversations 52 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: about the people who have to deal with the individuals 53 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: with the mental mental health issues. It feels like nobody 54 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: else speaks to y'all. 55 00:01:58,240 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 5: It's tough. 56 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: What what made you not run? Because you could have ran, 57 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 3: You could have been like, I'm not the same for me, 58 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: but you stood ten toes down and said I'm gone. 59 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 5: I experienced him going through episodes before we were married, 60 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 5: and I was like, man, somebody gotta help this guy. 61 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 5: It was really, really bad. It's really sad because you're 62 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 5: seeing someone you don't know. They're saying things to you 63 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 5: that are disrespectful, so mean, and you have to just like, 64 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 5: but I'm not talking to Gucci, who is this person? 65 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 5: So I felt like if I left, he wouldn't have 66 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 5: been the same. He needed someone to help him. And 67 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 5: then when we were supposed to get married, someone said 68 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 5: to me, you know you're gonna have to deal with 69 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 5: this through your marriage, right, And I'm like, I'm cool 70 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 5: with it. I'm going to fix him. 71 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 6: You know how heavy was that for you? 72 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: Though? 73 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 7: Because the fixing isn't like an overnight thing. I saw Gucci, 74 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 7: you did a big facts and you were talking about 75 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 7: how one time you said to him, I should record 76 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 7: this so that you can see, because he wouldn't even 77 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 7: remember some of the things he was doing, but it 78 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 7: would like you'd be like, oh my god, Like what's 79 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 7: happening right now? 80 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 6: How heavy was it in the press? Just trying to 81 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 6: help him get back. 82 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 5: It was one point I had to just go on 83 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 5: my knees and pray because it's like he's like, I 84 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 5: don't like you. I mean, the things he would say 85 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 5: are really really bad, and I just have to like 86 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 5: take a deep breath. Like I said, I'm not talking 87 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 5: to you right now. You want to sit here and 88 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 5: be crazy alone, I'm not going to allow you to 89 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,119 Speaker 5: be crazy alone. So like I have to like set 90 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 5: a plan up. Like at one point I called his attorney, 91 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 5: I called some bodyguards, and I just planned a whole 92 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 5: kidnap and we kidnapped him and took him to the 93 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 5: hospital because we could not get him to the hospital. 94 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 5: But he was trying to fight them and everything, but 95 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 5: it was six of them. He couldn't handle it, and 96 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 5: we threw him in the car. He would try to 97 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 5: jump out the car, so we put him in the 98 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 5: center of the car, you know. And that was like 99 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 5: his last episode. 100 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: When you go to the Yeah. 101 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 5: But they they try to do things where he could 102 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 5: sign himself out, and I'm like, he's not signed. Like 103 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 5: I'm stern with them. He's not signing himself out. I'm 104 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 5: his wife and I'm his far of attorney. He ain't 105 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 5: going nowhere like I have to be strict. It's kind 106 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 5: of like you have to go in mother mode, you know, 107 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 5: and put your foot down. 108 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 3: Were you ever scared? 109 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 5: I wasn't. Never scared he would hurt me. People were 110 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 5: scared for me. But it's a scary moment. 111 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Because I asked her that what she's scared. She 112 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: was like, I'm not scared of you. 113 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 5: I tell him all the time doing it, I'm not 114 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 5: scared of you. So you we gonna figure this out, 115 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 5: Like I have to get gangster with him because he 116 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 5: and I'm like, all right, we gonna see. Let's do this, 117 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 5: you know. 118 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: And the ice Cream Fever Dreams chapter Gus, you said 119 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: that the only you said when you need help, the 120 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: only person you can rely on is yourself. Yes, Why 121 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: did you feel that way in that moment. 122 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 4: Because that's how I felt, especially with like you're really 123 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 4: the only person you can like, you gotta do the. 124 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: Work yourself, you know what I'm saying. 125 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 4: If you want to like really get better, people can 126 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 4: want it for you, but you still. 127 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: Gotta want it more than they do. 128 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. You gotta want You gotta 129 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 4: do the work. You gotta live with it, you know 130 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So that's probably why I said that. 131 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: The reason I asked is because you start the book 132 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: off talking about Big and you know, you and Ke 133 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: should definitely help Big Scar in that moment when he 134 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: was having an episode. Yes, I mean you did help somebody. 135 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 4: I was trying my best to save a scar. I 136 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 4: was trying my best to save a Scar, and like 137 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 4: even he was a big inspiration for the book as well. 138 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 4: But what was like when I reached out to my 139 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 4: writing the co writer Cat on writing a book. I 140 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 4: was telling her about you know, like how High helped 141 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 4: Scart and you know, my wife was talking to me, 142 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 4: but she was on like I wouldn't even let Scott 143 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 4: know that she was telling me the stuff to tell 144 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 4: him it Like while we writing a book, like discussing 145 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 4: the book and just going over how we're gonna make it. 146 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 4: Scott died, so I hear her like, you know, Scott 147 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 4: had passed away. It was all it went for him 148 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 4: being an inspiration before I can't finish the book. 149 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: He passed away. So that was just super deep and 150 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 2: it made me like, I gotta do this. 151 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 4: I gotta even be more vulnerable because I'm gonna help 152 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 4: people that I don't even know I was, because I 153 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 4: was trying to help somebody who was so close to me, 154 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:48,799 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. 155 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: And I didn't even and I didn't succeed. 156 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 3: You know when you break down in the book that 157 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 3: September thirteenth episode, right, yeah, and you said you don't 158 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: even remember a lot of the things that you said. 159 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: Did you have to go back and say, you know what, 160 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 3: let me fix some of those situations? And who did 161 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 3: you called first to say let me fix that? Cause 162 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 3: we were on there that morning and we just remember 163 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: it's like damn Gucci just going crazy on everybody. And 164 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 3: the sad and the sad thing about it is for 165 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: media pressed. It's like that's goal at first, like oh, this, 166 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: that and the other, but then when you sit back 167 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 3: and look at it, like damn, Like maybe we shouldn't 168 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: have went that hard and promoted because we can see 169 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 3: now he was going through episode. 170 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: So the first question in the book about the media 171 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: that yeah, But the answer envin. 172 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 4: I was super embarrassed and hurt by the things I 173 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 4: said because like I wasn't well then, right, So then 174 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 4: I got locked up. So a lot of those people 175 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 4: who I was saying stuff too, they were like, I ain't. 176 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 4: They never gonna mess with me no more. So even 177 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 4: when I got out three years later, I still was like, 178 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 4: I apologize to Ross, Drake NICKI like all them people 179 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 4: accepting my apologies. 180 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: They just don't know. 181 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 4: It's like a weight off my shoulders because I had 182 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 4: been like cause I was wrong, Like Ross hadn't did 183 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 4: nothing but helped me, you know what I'm saying. And 184 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 4: I said something about him burg Man that all this 185 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 4: stuff me, why would I say something about him? So 186 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 4: I felt bad, you know what I'm saying. I felt 187 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 4: terribly bad and it was just e me. It was 188 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 4: like it was super heavy on me, you know what 189 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 4: I'm saying. So I apologize to everybody everybody that would 190 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 4: aceept my apology. That I apologize everybody who would accept 191 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 4: my call. I apologize to you. Just think anybody who 192 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 4: I was dissing, I apologize to. 193 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: When you see artists doing that, now, do you know 194 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: exactly what they're going through? 195 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 4: Yes, we were like since it's going through episode, I 196 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 4: can see it because because I'd have been through it, 197 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 4: and I'm like, I be feeling sorry for him, you 198 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But because I see the media, 199 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 4: they just go with it like this person like mad 200 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 4: or they being you know, like mean or whatever. But 201 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 4: they be like going through something really mental. It'd be 202 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 4: some mental health stuff going on. 203 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 3: Do you reach out to any of those artists. 204 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 4: I'm trying to think, did I reach out now? I 205 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 4: don't do a lot of reaching out because some of them, 206 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 4: like I feel like they wouldn't be accepting of it, 207 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. 208 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 3: But because you know, you wouldn't be accepted at the 209 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: point at that. 210 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 2: Time, Yeah, at that point you can't. You can't really 211 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: talk to them like that. 212 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 4: But like my wife said, I wish I could talk 213 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 4: to the people that know them to tell them how 214 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 4: to help them. 215 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 216 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 5: I tried to reach out to Kim when Kanye was 217 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 5: going through an episode. It bothered me so much, but 218 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 5: I don't know her and I didn't want to feel 219 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 5: like a groupie. Yeah, so I tried to send messages 220 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 5: to people. I never succeeded, but this was during their marriage. 221 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 5: I'm like, damn, I want to talk to her so bad, 222 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 5: like I can help you, but I never was successful. 223 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 7: We talked about that on air the other day because 224 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 7: she sat down with call Her Daddy and talked about 225 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 7: what it was like on the inside by also trying 226 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 7: to protect their public image and the way she thought 227 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 7: people would look at her if she decided to leave. 228 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 6: For you, what was it like, I mean talking about Kim? 229 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 7: What was it like just trying to protect the business 230 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 7: that you guys have built. 231 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 5: Wow, I have a sisterly. I take his apps off 232 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 5: his phone. First thing I do. I delete Instagram, I 233 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 5: delete everything. Even if I got to change his password, 234 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 5: I'm changing it because I don't need the public to 235 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 5: know he's having an episode. You realize you'd never know 236 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 5: about any other episodes since September thirteen because I control 237 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 5: that Because you're not going on Instagram, You're not going 238 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 5: on Twitter. It's deleted, you know, and I just control 239 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 5: everything at home and now before the episodes come, I 240 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 5: catch it. So that's why he hasn't had another one. 241 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 5: And how you catch that is he doesn't speak to you, 242 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 5: he wants to be left alone. 243 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 6: He don't eat, he. 244 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 5: Does not sleep. Text messages, there's a period after each word, 245 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 5: and I'm like, you're going through an episode. You're sick. No, 246 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 5: I'm not, ain't not wrong with me? Why do you 247 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 5: think that you're not speaking to me? Well, there's nothing 248 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 5: to talk about. I said, well, that's not how you 249 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 5: speak to your wife. And I'm like, you're sick and 250 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 5: we snap out of it right then? 251 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: Wow? 252 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: Wow, you know we heard him this week say how 253 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: Kanye just used to give away they calls and stuff 254 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: and he would go through episodes and in the book 255 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: you talk about you just used to be giving away stuff. 256 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: I gave away your money. 257 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 4: You want to cost so much? How much cost for Jerr? 258 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 4: I ga't waste. I would give my friends jeried and 259 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 4: like like they know I went, well, they'll take it. 260 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 4: I felt like, damn the I know I was something's 261 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 4: going on with me, but they'll take it. So like 262 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 4: when I got out of jail, like I cut off 263 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 4: all my friends, my old friends. I'm like, damn never 264 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 4: taking advantage. You know what I'm saying, it was great 265 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 4: taking the fan I'm giving away money. 266 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: I wonder what the psychology is behind that, Like why 267 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: when you going through an episode you. 268 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 2: Give away money and I don't know, you don't care 269 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: now in your mind. 270 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 4: Because the money don't it's not You're kind of like 271 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 4: in a warp world. It's almost like it's a psychosis, 272 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. It's not you're dealing with 273 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 4: stuff like hearing voices. Yeah, you know, and you're hearing 274 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 4: voices too, like it's telling you that you know. You 275 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 4: might think that Charlotte is trying to I might think 276 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 4: that you're trying to fight me. You ain't even did nothing. 277 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: We'd be like, bro, I. 278 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 4: Ain't doing nothing to tell you what's wrong, Like I'll 279 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 4: be trying to fight you, Lae man, like you did this. 280 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 2: You know what you did? You stole something from me. 281 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 2: He'd be like. 282 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 4: Nothing, But in my mind, I'm like, it's the truth. 283 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 4: So that's what I used. 284 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: To deal with. How did therapy in the self work 285 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: change your relationship with anger? And like, do you still 286 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: wrestle with that same in a voice that you talk 287 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: about throughout the book. 288 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. It's like I seen a therapist. 289 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 4: I gotta got ah so taking medicine to prescribed for 290 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 4: me and what she thought, and it worked and I 291 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 4: happened had any other problems. 292 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 3: You know, I always wondered when when people have episodes, 293 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 3: what sparks it? 294 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: Right? 295 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 3: Sometimes you know, you see homie from the hood and 296 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 3: they'll say it's some bad weed, or they'll say it's 297 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 3: some lean or what it was. So I always wondered, 298 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 3: do you know what sparked the episodes? 299 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 4: I think drug use, stress and stress not sleeping combined. 300 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 2: It wasn't just like, Okay, I drank the lane. 301 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 4: It was also I'm drinking line and I had like 302 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 4: five or six charges open cases. So I was so 303 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 4: stretched out. So you know, I'm going to the studio 304 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 4: and work. I got all these artists' instead of working hard, 305 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So from the outside looking in, 306 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 4: you think that I'm not phased about it, But it's 307 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 4: almost like I pushed the cases out of my mind. 308 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying, But it's still a stress. 309 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 4: But I'm just not dealing with I'm not talking about it. 310 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 4: I'm just like acting like it's never gonna happen, like 311 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 4: court not gonna never happen. But that's a big stress. 312 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 4: And I'm stead of drinking line, smoking weed, taking pills 313 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 4: to kind of know them that and then one day 314 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 4: it's just like scroub to break the camera back boom. 315 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 2: Now my mind can't take it. 316 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 3: And so what gets dialed down? Because you said sometimes 317 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 3: now you look at him and say, I could see 318 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 3: an episode coming there? Is it stressed now? Because I mean, 319 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 3: the craziest the best thing I heard about Gucci that 320 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 3: I was like, damn, I'm like Gucci. He was like, Gucci, 321 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 3: go to sleep at eight o'clock, nine o'clock. You tired. 322 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 3: Nine o'clock. I'll be like, kids are time to go 323 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 3: to sleep. I'll be tired too. But what gets you 324 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 3: to that episode? 325 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: Now? 326 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 2: When I had the. 327 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 4: Episode in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, it was COVID that 328 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 4: really just messed me up. And then another thing what 329 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 4: triggered the episode was I got my teeth done and 330 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 4: they put me on the anesthesia and the drugs messed 331 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 4: me up. 332 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: When I came from an understegia. 333 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 4: I was having an episode flipping out, and I'm like, damn, 334 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 4: I ain't even do you know, I can understand that, 335 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, So even if I go 336 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 4: it's like, damn, I never thought that would be a trigger, 337 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 4: but that was a trigger, So it could be a 338 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 4: multitude of things. 339 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: But it's interesting though, because when I read the book, 340 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: I feel like you always had a level of self awareness, 341 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: Like even when you talk about going to get the 342 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: ice cream cone tattoo on your face, as you said 343 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: it was a cry for help. It was why you 344 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: felt like nobody heard you even when you were doing 345 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: all that, why you think nobody heard. 346 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: Everybody thought it was like a marketing a marketing campaign. 347 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 348 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 4: Nobody Like I remember, I remember like the whole it 349 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 4: was like I had went to court. They told me 350 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 4: they had to go to a minial hospital, like because 351 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 4: I tried to say, like, you know, try to tell them, 352 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 4: like listen, some of the stuff I'm doing, I'm not 353 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 4: in my right mind when I'm doing it, and they 354 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 4: sent me to a minial hospital and then it went 355 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 4: on the media, and I feel just remember when they 356 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 4: start saying, like I got to go to a million hospital, 357 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 4: the embarrassment I feel, And then it's like maybe it 358 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 4: wasn't even two three, three, four days later that's when 359 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 4: I got the ice cream com tattoo. So if it 360 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 4: was almost like a cry for help. You see what 361 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 4: I'm saying, I can't explain. It's hard for me to 362 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 4: put it in words. 363 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying being Gucci man without me, 364 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 5: no one helped him because he's the artist. No one 365 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 5: is gonna say Gucci or not, well, Gucci, you need Mendis. 366 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 5: And they just keep on giving him the weed, giving 367 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 5: him the drugs, and he keep on keeping on. So 368 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 5: that's that was the problem. No one took the time 369 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 5: to like, damn dog, something's really wrong with you. Yeah, 370 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 5: that's how I came and after all of that, like 371 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 5: you need help. 372 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: And I'm telling back then, I used to be like, 373 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: ain't nothing wrong with me? 374 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 4: And they going they kind of like when I'm saying 375 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 4: that the wrong me give me the weed. 376 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: They like going with that. 377 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying, Because I'm like, somebody put 378 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 4: something my drink or something like it's an excuse instead 379 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 4: of just saying Okay, no matter, I got a problem, 380 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 4: I need to fix it. It's almost like, you know, 381 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 4: I shouldn't have this problem? Why meets type shit? That's 382 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 4: how I feel, like, why it don't nobody else got 383 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 4: to deal with this but me? So I kind of 384 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 4: like I didn't want to accept it, you know what 385 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 4: I'm saying, because I felt like why I got to 386 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 4: deal with this? You know what I'm saying, Like why 387 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 4: I got to have this affliction? Why I can't be straight? 388 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 4: Why I got to have a mental health problem? Like 389 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 4: why I can't drink really like, why can't drink lean 390 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 4: and smoke like everybody else? Why if I drink the 391 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 4: lane to smoke, I got to be in the mental hospital. 392 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: That's how I used to feel, and it probably it 393 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: felt like the people at the label didn't look at 394 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: you as a human being, like you were just the 395 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: artist that because you said after you got the itream 396 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: contact to one of them called you and said, man, 397 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: you a genius. Yeah, and you was like, bro, I'm 398 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: trump going through. 399 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 4: I was going with I'm like, damn, I never thought 400 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 4: that it Like when it went viral back then and 401 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 4: just everybody was talking about it, and then it didn't like. 402 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 2: This was not my intention and I was not doing that. 403 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: It was different, was like a cry for help. 404 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 3: As a question, Keisha, do you wish you around when 405 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 3: when you know I look at Gucci and if you 406 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 3: really think about all the artists that he has touched 407 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 3: and could have signed, he could have been bigger than 408 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 3: any label out there. If you go through them, we 409 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 3: can go from from Thug to Waka, to the Migos 410 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 3: to the list goes on and on and on. Do 411 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 3: you think we had Walker Wago? Do you think if 412 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 3: I was there, I could have helped him build that 413 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 3: empire because he could have been really like an Atlanta death. 414 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 5: Chair, a thousand person even like we had this conversation 415 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 5: many years ago. I said, Gucci, you just have to 416 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 5: accept that you're not well and fix it. Just accept it, 417 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 5: I said, people take towl all every day. Just take 418 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 5: your medication every day. You'll be fine. Just accept that 419 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 5: you're sick, fix it and you'll be okay. And absolutely 420 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 5: he had so many artists from back in the day, 421 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 5: and because of this, you know, they re signed with 422 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 5: other people or whatever the situation is. And it pisses 423 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 5: me off because none of them respects him, I don't 424 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 5: or give him the credit like Gucci signed me. Gucci's 425 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 5: the one that got me out the slum. Gucci's the 426 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 5: one that changed my life. None of them talks about that. 427 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 5: Not one of them. 428 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 3: Does that ball because it's a lot of artists that 429 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 3: are multi platinum that are still selling records that you 430 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 3: were the first person to give an opportunity to. We 431 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 3: can name the list of the list goes on and on. 432 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, I had to hold myself accountable. 433 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 2: I got locked up. 434 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 4: I messed up the opportunity, you know what I'm saying. 435 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 4: But I'm not saying that they don't have to pay me. 436 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: Hommuch. 437 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 4: I appreciate it, you know what I'm saying. But it's 438 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 4: like that's part of how I was raised and just 439 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 4: who I am. I get fulfillment out of hipping artists, 440 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. 441 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: I was reaching meant out to them, trying to help 442 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: them because I saw talent in them. 443 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 3: And not just Southern artists, not just. 444 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 4: Artists, DJing whatever. That's just like who I am, you 445 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Like I'm an open door studio. 446 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 4: I'm gonna bring people in I'm gonna work with the 447 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 4: up and coming. That's what I like to do. You 448 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 4: get what I'm saying. If it didn't work out where 449 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 4: it did because I got locked up, I got to say, hey, 450 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 4: I got myself locked up. You know, I messed that up. 451 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 4: But since then I've been doing I've been doing well. 452 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 4: Since I got out, I've been on you know what 453 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 4: I'm saying, been a whole different. Everything been going good. 454 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 3: I always wondered, did any of those artists reach out 455 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 3: when you were locked up and said, let me help? 456 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 2: Damn, let me say this. Though he she said nope, 457 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 2: let me say this. 458 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 4: It is still kind of like paying it forward because 459 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 4: when I got all those artists did come back and 460 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 4: do songs with me, you know what I'm saying. 461 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 3: But when you get down, did they help? 462 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 2: They didn't. 463 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 5: They don't acknowledge him. He doesn't care or feel that way, 464 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 5: but from the outside looking in, they should acknowledge him. 465 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 5: You know, I feel like. 466 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: Gucci gets looked at as a hip hop pillar, though 467 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: I feel like he's like, look, I feel like Gucci 468 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: gets his just do as an iconic figure and hip 469 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: hop and all the artists he put on no but 470 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: would you like to. 471 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 5: See Key like I would like them, all of them 472 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 5: to acknowledge him, even if they win an award. Acknowledge 473 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 5: him because he gave you the stomping around. 474 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 3: Most people don't know Nicki Minaj came out of that 475 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 3: camp French Montana came half those people we know well. 476 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 3: Most people don't know that Migos meos stuff like. 477 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 5: Most people because they don't say it right. 478 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: I love I love the chapter Pills and postion too 479 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: because you said you feel guilty for making the song Pills, 480 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: because you made a whole generation start getting high on pills. 481 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: How do you rectify that guilt. 482 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 4: I can live with it now because it's like, it 483 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 4: is what it is, you know what I'm saying. But 484 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 4: back then, I know that I like made a lot 485 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 4: of people use drugs. I talked about drugs, druge drugs, 486 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 4: drugs all through my music because that's what I was 487 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 4: on back then. And I'm just like, damn, I know 488 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 4: I made a whole bunch of people think Pills was cool. 489 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 2: I know that for a fact. You know what I'm saying, 490 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 2: and that ain't nothing. 491 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 4: I'm just super proud of, you know, But what can 492 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 4: I do it's in the past now. 493 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 2: And at the same time it was I was also 494 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 2: a user too, so I was going going through it 495 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 2: with them. 496 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: The interesting thing about that chapter two, you said that 497 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: your whole team didn't like that song. 498 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: They didn't. 499 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: I'm old it was because I'm sure some of them 500 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: was on pills too, So what was it they didn't when. 501 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 4: I first, like even when I had like one foot 502 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 4: the in, one foot out, A lot of my guys 503 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 4: who were hustling, We used to think I would like 504 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,719 Speaker 4: my crew hustling, but it's they just think like pills 505 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 4: and stuff like that was like jacket stuff, you know 506 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. They're thinking, like, if you do coke, 507 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,479 Speaker 4: eat like a jacket, you take pills, you're a jacket. 508 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 4: They all that was cool with with smoking weed, even 509 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 4: taking a drinking lane. They thought it was some jacket stuff, right, 510 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 4: So they really they said, take away from the money, 511 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 4: you see what I'm saying. So it's like, if you're 512 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 4: doing if you're taking pills, you supposed to be selling 513 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 4: the pills. So when I came out with pills, they 514 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 4: went with that. They was like, bro, what you making 515 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 4: a song about taking pills for me? Then the song 516 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 4: ended up blowing up, but they was like they didn't 517 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 4: like the song. 518 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 3: Yeap when you did Versus? Right, what was your mind 519 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 3: framed during Versus and Keisha when he you knew he 520 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 3: was doing versus against somebody that was his arch enemy 521 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 3: at the time, right, what was your mind frame because 522 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 3: you knew at any moment it could have went back. 523 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 6: Did you want him to do it? 524 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 5: I told him not to. I said, you're not doing that. 525 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 5: I said, I will pay you a million dollars not 526 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 5: to do this. 527 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 2: She told me that, swear to God, like I pay 528 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 2: your million dollars not to do the verses. I'm like, 529 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do the verses. 530 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 3: So how for people that don't know, how did that 531 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 3: verses come about? And what was your mind to do 532 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 3: the songs that you did in that moment, because I mean, 533 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 3: I think everybody felt it watching and people that were 534 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 3: they were like, oh, this is gonna end up nasty. 535 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 2: Well, I'm trying to think. 536 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 4: I heard I see in the interview with Jesus was 537 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 4: saying like if I do it Versus, I want to 538 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 4: do it with Gucci. 539 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 2: Right, So after that he had. 540 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 4: Hit me like, Bro, you heard Jesus say he wanted 541 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 4: to do a verse with you, would you do it? 542 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 4: And I was like, I don't know if I do that. 543 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 4: I don't know if I want to do no verse. 544 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 4: I ain't really really do yet. Then he came back like, bro, 545 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 4: I think this would be big if. 546 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 2: You do it. So next thing, you know, Swiss and 547 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 2: Larry Jackson end up hearing me and we end up 548 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 2: doing say we're gonna do the verses right, And my 549 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 2: mind frame going into it was like it's going it was. 550 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 4: I was excited about it, like because all the previous 551 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 4: verses were so big, So I'm like, man, it's dope. 552 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's gonna be big for me. 553 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 4: Everybody gonna be like, my catalog gonna go up, people 554 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 4: gonna just so out looking. 555 00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 2: And I was excited about it. 556 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: And oh, actually, Jesu said, he said here on Breakfast Club, 557 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: he wanted to do it with you, but you turned 558 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: it down. That's what That's what that conversation was. That 559 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: was back in twenty twenty. 560 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 4: I don't think I turned it down. I don't think 561 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 4: I think I turned down during versus period. But I 562 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 4: was open to do the verses when they finally broke 563 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,959 Speaker 4: it down to me like, Okay, this the business about it, 564 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 4: this all this good can come out of it, and 565 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, I'm gonna do it. 566 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: Did y'all think it was KESHI? You didn't want to 567 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 1: do it because you knew he could potentially have an episode. 568 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 5: Of No, I just don't trust it. I don't know. 569 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 5: God forbid Jesus go say the wrong thing and and 570 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 5: things pop off. I ain't got the time. 571 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 3: Where were you when he was doing versus? 572 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 5: I was pregnant at home. No, he didn't want me there, 573 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,479 Speaker 5: so you were watching it. My hands was wet sweat, 574 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 5: and I'm nervous. I'm like, Lord, Jesus helped me. 575 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 3: So what he did that song? What were you thinking 576 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 3: when he did that song? And what do you think 577 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 3: that did that song? 578 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 5: Like? Oh my, I'm just like this like every like 579 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 5: any normal person. I'm in the bed watching it like 580 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 5: everybody else. 581 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 6: Scared And Jesus you said you were lucky that. I'm sorry, 582 00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 6: I'm sorry. 583 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 7: Sorry, Gucci you said that you were happy that Jeez 584 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 7: took the moment to kind of like kind of shift there. 585 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 2: I would say, in hindsight, I'm like I respect the 586 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 2: way he did. 587 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 4: What he said, you know what I'm saying, and uh, 588 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 4: you know what he said made sense, you know what 589 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 4: I'm saying. 590 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 2: But at that moment, in the moment, like the heat 591 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: of the moment. 592 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 4: I wasn't thinking like I'm happy he said that. The 593 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 4: moment was just like, man, what is he talking about? 594 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Let's get on to the 595 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: what we're doing. I ain't. But when I look back 596 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 2: on and I'm like, that was smart. You know what 597 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 2: I'm saying. That was smart and it was deep. 598 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 3: Did y'all speak before, y'all diversity personal, y'all just speak 599 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 3: before here? How was that conversation with that the first 600 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 3: time y'all spoke throughout the years of Man one? 601 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 4: It was funny because we seen it, y'all on the airplane, right, 602 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 4: he was sitting in my seat. God, that's the crazy jolly. 603 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 4: He's sitting in my seat right. So I'm like, damn, 604 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 4: I don't even want to talk to him. But I 605 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 4: got to tell the dude to get out my seat. 606 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 4: So like I'm like, hey, man, you see, you got 607 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 4: to get out of my seat. 608 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 2: But he see who it is. 609 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 4: He like, well, I'm sitting in the same seat. Can't 610 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 4: you sit mom? Like, Nah, I can't sit in your seat. 611 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 4: You just got to get up. There was the conversation 612 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:04,239 Speaker 4: we had. 613 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 2: Product. 614 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 3: If anybody else, you probably be like, God, go ahead, 615 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 3: I got you got to get up. 616 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 1: You got to get up, And he don't want to 617 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: get up. 618 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 4: I can't be cause my pro I can't my problem 619 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 4: won't let me say that you in my season. 620 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: I just okay, I'm gonna sit over here. Yeah, no, 621 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 2: dog get up. 622 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 1: Probably won't allow him to be like manca man told 623 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: me to get up. 624 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 2: Oh, he got up and moved. He got up and move. 625 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 3: That's funny because I remember fifty y'all said the first 626 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,479 Speaker 3: time they see each other was on a flight. They 627 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 3: were both It's like, you can't wild out in there, 628 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 3: so you gotta be easy. 629 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: But No, in your first book, you said y'all had 630 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: dinner somewhere before. 631 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 4: No, we we we met up at a restaurant. 632 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we had met before, but I'm saying this 633 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 2: is how I got out. That was like, we met. 634 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 4: At that restaurant way way back. That was like twenty 635 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 4: ten or something like that. 636 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: But you said y'all had decided if I remember correctly 637 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: in the book, you said y'all decided to squash the. 638 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 2: Beef then, but then we end up ended. I think 639 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 2: he saw each other at the club, Yes, and it 640 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 2: didn't go right? Yeah? 641 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 6: What is it like now? 642 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 7: Like have you guys spoken sense versus and you know 643 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 7: both of you are so evolved at this point. 644 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 4: I did the interview on Big Fast, and I'm like, 645 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 4: it ain't really been no disrespect since then. Everybody everything cool, 646 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 4: but you know we okay, okay. 647 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 3: Well make sure they okay? 648 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 6: Got you love it? 649 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: In episode you call yourself a recovering mad man. Right, 650 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: you know what does madness look like to you today? 651 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: And how do you recognize it when they try to 652 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 1: creep back in? 653 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 4: Madness is like very evil side of me, you know, 654 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 4: it's very no compassion, no empathy, like void of just 655 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 4: of good. 656 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 657 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 4: It's like empty eyes soulss Like I say the most 658 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 4: meanest things like That's why I said so embarrassing after. 659 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 2: It was like god, like, I can't even believe I said. 660 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 4: I've been saying stuff. I can't even think I know 661 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 4: how to curse and say. 662 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 2: Stuff like that. 663 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 4: I've been going so deep in into the dungeon. I'm 664 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 4: talking about seriously that It's like, I'm so embarrassed about 665 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 4: what I said afterwards, Like that's that's what it madness, 666 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 4: Like it's it's you see how like when Kanye flip 667 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 4: out and he starts saying and. 668 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 2: He just like go deep. I'm like that, it's just 669 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: getting bad. 670 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 4: Like she said, the only thing about it was my 671 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 4: wife been keeping it so like when I did have episode, 672 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 4: nobody in the public side. But man, you know, I 673 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 4: just want to give grace and just say thank you 674 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 4: to all the people who close to me who had 675 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 4: to say some stuff too. 676 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 2: Y'all know I didn't mean it. 677 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: You know, what is madness? Looked like the UK when 678 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: you see it creeping up in Google. 679 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 5: There was one time he stood outside for twenty four 680 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 5: hours at the door, just standing. I said, get inside. No, 681 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 5: I said, did somebody give you a cookie or lace it? 682 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 5: What is wrong with you? Because I'm not even catching on. 683 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 5: I just want to stand up out here, he said, 684 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,479 Speaker 5: other twenty four hours. So I said, okay, there's an 685 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 5: episode coming. I wasn't that good of a pro yet. 686 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 5: So the episode came like a week or two after that. 687 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 5: So that was a sign, So you do you. 688 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 1: Have to just let him be in those moments, even 689 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: though you just standing outside. You just let him stand there. 690 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 5: No now, No, I don't play with him now. And 691 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 5: I let him stand out there for the twenty four 692 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 5: hours even four or five am he out there? But 693 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 5: if he was to do that now or he going to. 694 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 3: The hospital, do you kids break you out that episode? 695 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 3: Like when you see the kids, you're like, nah, he. 696 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 5: Has episode. 697 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: Like that would make me just. 698 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 4: Be so scared about Like that would scared me, Like 699 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 4: I cannot leveling my kids seeming like that, and I 700 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 4: can never not be well, like I'm not on point 701 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 4: to be needed to handle the business or raising the 702 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 4: baby like I'm you know what I'm saying, Like I 703 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 4: get them up for school every day. I can't be 704 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 4: in the hospital, you know what I'm saying. My little boy, 705 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 4: he can't even stand a day without me like that. 706 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 4: I miss you when I leave. So I just want 707 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 4: to be on point for my kids. 708 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 3: Do you miss old Gucci me? And when I say 709 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 3: old Gucci, I mean going out being in the studio 710 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 3: with your artists. 711 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 4: I kind of miss being It's only certain things from 712 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 4: like my manic behavior. That that's good, and that's like 713 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 4: I kind of like used to be in the studio. 714 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 4: I used to be way more productive, you know what 715 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 4: I'm saying. I work out two times a day. I 716 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 4: used to be I be restless, you know what I'm saying. 717 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 4: So I do, like I ain't trying to like romanticize 718 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 4: that part about it, but this is a part about 719 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 4: this man that it makes you like super hard working, 720 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 4: like you don't even need sleep, you just stay in 721 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 4: the studio. You just always so you're so prolific. It 722 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 4: probably it made me really prolific. So I do miss 723 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 4: that part. Like now I'm not just prolific. I don't 724 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 4: put out a hundred mistakes. I only put out one 725 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 4: album every two years. I'm not you know, I'm just 726 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 4: like a family man. Now, you know what I'm saying, 727 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:23,719 Speaker 4: I'm slow down. 728 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 3: Do you like that better? 729 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 5: I love it Now he's normal. 730 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 3: He's normal. 731 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 7: I saw you say that. Going to East Atlanta sometimes 732 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 7: like triggers different episodes for you and you can talk 733 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 7: about that. 734 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 6: Were you about to say something. 735 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 2: No, say it does trigger me going to Eastern Lita. 736 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 6: What in writing this book? 737 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 7: What other things from your upbringing did you realize, like, oh, 738 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 7: that was one of my triggers? Are these episodes and 739 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 7: I didn't even know like family stuff or just you know, 740 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 7: stuff from. 741 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 4: Like young Yeah, like stuff with my mom triggers me. 742 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 4: Uh we had like a screen relationship stuff for my 743 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 4: youth trigger man, you know. Oh and ships you know 744 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 4: that went soide. Ah, There's a lot of stuff can 745 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 4: be triggered. I get you know, some songs even tricker me, 746 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 4: you know, just from like like you said, like I 747 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 4: screened relationships, like even hearing so icy. 748 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 2: I don't like hearing so icy. 749 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: Wow. 750 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 4: You know, it's kind of like a trigger state scrapped 751 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 4: would be a trigger, you know what I'm saying. Hearing 752 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 4: that like I got ten K on your bottom like 753 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 4: the wis side probably couldn't have took that, you know, 754 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 4: like that would have triggered me. 755 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 3: You don't do those songs. 756 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 2: You don't do them songs. 757 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: What trigger is you? Boy used to land on? What 758 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: is it? Burma Alabama? 759 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 2: I would say East Atlanta, but I don't want to. 760 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 2: I don't want to. 761 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 4: Bessmer kind of depresses me because it's like when you 762 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 4: go down there, it's so like it's like damn you 763 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. 764 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 2: It's it's like, damn, it's it's a tough place to 765 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 2: grow up at. 766 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 4: And when I go back there, like it, Damn, that 767 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 4: made me cry just looking at the buildings and there. 768 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 4: Because you're from a small town like I'm from. It's 769 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 4: so small and rural and like you know, it's there's 770 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 4: no money down there, you know what I'm saying. 771 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 2: So it just looked it feel dark. 772 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 773 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 2: East Atlanta is just dangerous. 774 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 4: It's still dangerous, is always gonna be dan It just 775 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 4: when I go there just make me change. It made 776 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 4: me like I just it, I almost turn into a 777 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 4: different person, Like the coners, the blocks, just I just 778 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 4: just reliving all the stuff I did on those blocks, 779 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 4: you know, the people there. It's just I try to 780 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 4: stay away from triggers. 781 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: And you say, you're even reading the book and seeing 782 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: the effects that like systemic racism had on you, Like 783 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: watching the KKK, you know, March to Your Time? Is 784 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: that still a trigger us? 785 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 2: It kind of is? It is it is. 786 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 4: I still like hold some of that stuff in me. 787 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, That I seen when I 788 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 4: was young, from best one. That's why I kept my 789 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 4: label ten seventeen because I'm like, I don't. 790 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: Never want to forget. 791 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 4: Even though I was raised in Atlanta, people I always 792 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 4: associate me with Atlanta. I never want to forget, you know, 793 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 4: the life I live there, and I never want to 794 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 4: forget like my family. 795 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 2: Then what they going through. 796 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 3: You said during the Big Facts interview that the police 797 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 3: you feel like they still have it out for you 798 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 3: in Atlanta. 799 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 4: I feel like they did they did back when I 800 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 4: first got I feel like because they used to do 801 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 4: stuff like you know what I'm saying, Like I would 802 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 4: be when I first had got out of jail. I 803 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 4: would go places and the police would just run my name, 804 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And then I was on probation, 805 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 4: So my probation, but I was like, hey, did you 806 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 4: go to such and such because the police ran your 807 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 4: name and there, like they were just trying to see 808 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 4: if I get They just they just it's just too much. 809 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 3: So what do you tell artists like your thugs and 810 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 3: your little babies that probably feel the same way as you, 811 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 3: You say it might be time to get to Atlanta. 812 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 4: I told the baby that I've been told the baby, 813 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 4: hey man, he might be too big for the city 814 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 4: might need to move, you know what I'm saying. I 815 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 4: never got a chance to tell a thug that, but 816 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 4: I definitely told baby that before because. 817 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 6: He used to be there. 818 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 7: The baby used to be there just walking around like regularly, 819 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 7: like the grocery stores and everything. 820 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 4: Because he's so comfortable that I got to comfort that, 821 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 4: like even time I went. If I'm in Atlanta and 822 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 4: I have an episode, I go straight to my block 823 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 4: because I know that block like the back of my hand. 824 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 2: I'm always like, I always go there. 825 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 4: It's just like them for me. It's like it's two 826 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 4: for me for me, you know what I'm say saying, 827 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 4: it's two for me. Sometimes something two for me for 828 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 4: you. You got to get away from that because it's too 829 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 4: much comfort there. It ain't no growth in comfort. 830 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 2: I need to be well. 831 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 4: Like I'm here to the count Plank, you cant get 832 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 4: held account of. If I go to Easter Atlanta Lane coming, 833 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 4: we coming. All I got to do is just stand 834 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 4: on the block. 835 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: I want to ask you, Keisha, how do you how 836 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: do you define recovery? Because you've seeing them matters worse 837 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: and now you're seeing them at his best, So how 838 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: would you define recovery. For somebody that is dealing with 839 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: somebody who's trying to recover from their mental. 840 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,959 Speaker 5: Health issues, the first thing you need is medication. You 841 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 5: cannot it cannot go on medicated. And the quicker the better, 842 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 5: because once they're medicated, they usually get better in like 843 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,479 Speaker 5: two weeks. It's not it's not overnight. It's literally like 844 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 5: fourteen days for them to be back to normal. So 845 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 5: for him, like let's say he started his medication after 846 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 5: an episode. He started his medication today, right three days later, 847 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 5: he was like, oh, my wife, you're so beautiful. I 848 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,959 Speaker 5: could tell by his words that he's getting better. And 849 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 5: then tomorrow he might say and I'm like, oh shit, 850 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 5: he's not better yet. Like I could just tell by 851 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 5: his tone. 852 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: Who do you talk to? Keis like, do you have 853 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: a therapist? 854 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 5: No, I'm the therapist. He'll tell you. I'm like a 855 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 5: real therapist. I know how to speak to him. You 856 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 5: have to speak calm, you cannot scream. Sometimes you have 857 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 5: to agree with what he's saying. Like he'll say give 858 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 5: me five hundred grand and I'm like, okay, I don't 859 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 5: do it, but I say okay. Whatever he asks for, 860 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 5: I say yes, But I don't do it, but you 861 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 5: can't go against them. So he'll text somebody and cuss 862 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 5: them out, and I'll go back to his phone and 863 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 5: I'll say, block him. He's having an episode. So I 864 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 5: just I'm just a clean up lady. 865 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 2: I gotta say this. 866 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 4: Remember Julia greenwhile used to be the head of Atlanta, 867 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 4: I had an episode and said so much bad stud 868 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 4: of Judah. 869 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 2: I said that. 870 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 4: When I came from I said, listen, Judi, now, if 871 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 4: I text you anything crazy, block me for block me 872 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 4: and call me for two days and call my wife 873 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 4: because this episode comes because I ain't want to lose 874 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 4: My position is a label going through episode, and I'm like, 875 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 4: if you just see, like, if you see like the 876 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 4: texts getting crazy, just block me because I don't want 877 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 4: to come tell you. 878 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 2: I start saying stuff so bad. It's like you can't 879 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 2: come back. 880 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: From We've seen it before. Yeah, but how do you 881 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: protect your peace though? 882 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 7: Like you because there has to be times where you 883 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 7: feel like the walls are just caving in because it's 884 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 7: so much and it's so personal for you. 885 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 5: Honestly, I during the moment, I'm kind of like stressed out. 886 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 5: I'm a prayer warrior. I just pray and once he 887 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 5: starts getting better, honestly, I'm okay. And he doesn't stay 888 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 5: sick long. Like I said, it takes fourteen days to 889 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 5: get him back, and after like day three, he's already 890 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 5: come into his senses. But those deep episodes won't happen ever. Again, 891 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 5: we're in twenty five, so the last one was five 892 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 5: years ago. He had a mild one coming maybe two 893 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 5: years ago, and I caught it, So now I catch 894 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 5: them before they come. Like, people be saying stuff about him, like, oh, 895 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 5: he's soft, he's this. See that the mad man is 896 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 5: still there. So I tried my best. I don't want 897 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 5: them to provoke him because it will come back and 898 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 5: he's very dangerous. So y'all listen, please leave him alone 899 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 5: because the mad Max is still in the head. 900 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. When I when I saw young thugs say that, 901 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 1: I was just like, man, you know, thug is just young? 902 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 5: Yeah no, no, no, Gucci ain't soft. 903 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,879 Speaker 1: He's just grown. He's grown. 904 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 3: When did you when did you develop the trust for 905 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 3: Kishi ky? All right, because it's not just a little 906 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 3: bit of trust, it's almost like you gave everything and 907 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 3: trusted that she was going to be there. For you, 908 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 3: and she was. 909 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 4: I knew she was a great woman, you know what 910 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 4: I'm saying, But I just wasn't. I wasn't there, you 911 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But once I went to jail 912 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 4: and like, some people had stole my money, you know 913 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So the rest of the I was 914 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 4: like it got to the point where I was like, 915 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 4: the rest of the money I. 916 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 2: Got, I gave it to her. I'm like, because it 917 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 2: had I already had somebody steal, you know what I'm saying. 918 00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 4: So it's like I had nobody else to trust. You know, 919 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 4: I couldn't trust. I didn't even trust my mom, you 920 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So I'm like, they we take it. 921 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,439 Speaker 4: She said, no, I don't want it. She said, don't 922 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 4: give it to me, find somebody else. I'm like the 923 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 4: only person I got to trust. So it was probably 924 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 4: when I got locked up and went through so many 925 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 4: and just and went through a betrayal. 926 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 3: Because you give her everything where it's like you trust 927 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 3: her with your life, with your business, with everything, and 928 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 3: most people will be so reluctant with that. And that's 929 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 3: also a lot of power for you because you know 930 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 3: that he trusts you so much. 931 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: But you know that pops up on the timeline all 932 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: the time. I forgot how much it was. This amount 933 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: of money. 934 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 2: That was facts, that was facts. 935 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 5: When he tried to give me money all the time, 936 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 5: I'm like, I don't want it. I don't want it. 937 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 2: She wouldn't take it for a long time, but until 938 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:43,720 Speaker 2: until they stole the money. 939 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 4: And I'm like, hey, I'm the one that found out. 940 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 2: She found out, like. 941 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 5: All his businesses and stuff, I'm like, this one stolen 942 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 5: that one. Like I'm really good at business. So I'm like, hey, 943 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 5: you're being robbed, sir, And he's like, can you do it? 944 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 5: And I'm not getting it. I'm just letting you know. 945 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 3: That's a Jamaica woman in you my wife. The same way, 946 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 3: then you send your wife to Curse Mount. 947 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 1: Did you tell Gucci you was going to invest the 948 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: money or you just went and did it? And when 949 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: he came home, he was like, look what we got. 950 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 5: No, I told him because I was doing stuff with 951 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 5: my own money, and he's like, just do it, and 952 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 5: I'm like but then he was like, just do it, 953 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 5: and I did it and it worked out. 954 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: So you also talk about in the book how you 955 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: was at in the Ward Show with Walker and you 956 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: was having an episode. Yes, what I loved about that 957 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: chapter you said when you sat down you just felt 958 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: shame in that moment, I did, What's something you learned, 959 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: like in the process of you healing that you just 960 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: now viewed with compassion instead of. 961 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 2: Judgment about myself. 962 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. 963 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 4: Mmm, I'm trying to think it used to be hard 964 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 4: on myself, like kind of like well said, like damn, 965 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 4: I should have this big death jam label and you 966 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But then I had to give 967 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 4: myself to like listen, you went through a lot. Just 968 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,439 Speaker 4: be okay, you still got you still got. 969 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 2: A great career. You know what I'm saying. You still 970 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 2: make money, You're still doing good. But yeah, at first 971 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 2: I used to be hard on myself about that. 972 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: Do you still beat yourself up like you was sitting 973 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: in there Award Show ashamed of what you did? Do 974 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: you ever just be like, damn, man, maybe I need 975 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: to pick up the phone and call this person, because what. 976 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 2: You think everybody? I apologize to everybody. I really did. 977 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like you know, like aa me, 978 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 4: they tell you, hey, call everybody back, that you ever 979 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 4: wrong That's how I approached. When I got out, I 980 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 4: really was like I wanted everybody to like know I 981 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 4: was sorry that you know what I'm saying. You know, 982 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 4: I still don't want to like use mental health as 983 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 4: not being accountable for what I said because some of 984 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 4: that stuff I wasn't going through the episode. I say 985 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 4: that stuff that was wrong and that you want Leveyody 986 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 4: know like I'm wrong, I'm sorry, you know what I mean. 987 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 7: I thought it was hearing you talk about why you 988 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 7: called young thugs so quick when he dropped the miss 989 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 7: my dogs because you understood what that apology like you 990 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 7: were there. I thought that was like really, we played 991 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 7: this morning on air, and it was really great to 992 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 7: hear what was y'all conversation? 993 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 2: Like I didn't call him, I just forget. I just 994 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, I forgive. 995 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 7: So y'all didn't actually talk. Oh wow, so he found 996 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 7: out you forgive him on that interview. 997 00:37:58,680 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, he has. 998 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 6: He reached out tea since the interview. 999 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 4: To be honest, he was like, he hit me like, 1000 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 4: let's let's let's talk, but I ain't really want to talk. 1001 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 2: But I do forgiven. I just didn't want to talk. 1002 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand I'm the same way I can forgive you, 1003 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 3: but I still there's certain times I. 1004 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 6: Just I just don't need you just do with that? 1005 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 3: Do you mind being the OG? And the reason I 1006 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 3: say that is is you look at the Landa. You 1007 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 3: see everything that a Landa's going through. Gucci is that 1008 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 3: one person that can stop it? Or I think because 1009 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 3: every artist in Atlanta respects you, do you do you 1010 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 3: mind that that label as the OGI that can do that? 1011 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 4: Or you just say, you know what I do? You 1012 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like I've been in the game 1013 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 4: twenty years now, so like I embraced that. You know, 1014 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 4: I'm not the high artists trying to drop off, you know, 1015 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 4: the hottest single every year and do all that. You know, 1016 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 4: I want to be the person that they can come 1017 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 4: to and talk to. 1018 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 3: Would you want to do that with everything that's going 1019 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 3: on in Atlanta? 1020 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 1: I would? 1021 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 2: I would. 1022 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 4: I feel like if they would come to me, but 1023 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 4: they don't want to come. I feel like people don't 1024 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 4: come to me for advice because it's like even with 1025 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 4: my own art, it's like a lot of them, you know, 1026 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 4: don't come to me because it's like talking to your dad. 1027 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,399 Speaker 4: I ain't got nothing but positive to say. I'm trying 1028 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 4: to lead by example, and I'm gonna tell you like, 1029 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 4: you shouldn't do this, you shouldn't. So they don't even 1030 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 4: want to talk to me. 1031 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 3: They would, they'd love to talk to old Gucci. 1032 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 4: I want to talk to cause Gucca ain't really gotten 1033 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 4: thating going on. He go to sleep at eight thirty, 1034 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 4: like you know nothing, and you do y'all. 1035 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 3: Every once in a while the pictures come out and 1036 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 3: say Gucci's a clone. Did that make y'all laugh? Or 1037 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 3: do y'all die laughing when y'all see the clone Gucci? 1038 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:29,439 Speaker 2: I didn't used to like it at first. 1039 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 4: When I first got out, I felt like it's discredited 1040 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 4: everything that I happened, working so hard to do, you 1041 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I felt like people was hating 1042 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 4: saying I was a clone instead of saying yeah, I 1043 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 4: didn't like it. Yeah, it died down now. But when 1044 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 4: I first got out, I ain't gonna used to be annoying. 1045 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 4: I just be like, it's so lame. 1046 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: Did you talk Did you talk to Oja? Yeah about 1047 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: what you was gonna put in the book. 1048 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 2: Yes, I talked. I talked o j yesterday. That's my dog. 1049 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think about it? 1050 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 2: He loved it. 1051 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 4: I told him, I like, oh, y'all want you to 1052 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 4: be a part of the book. I want you to 1053 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 4: have your own chapter in the book. I want you 1054 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 4: to tell your story because I feel like I would 1055 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 4: see him doing a bunch of podcasts telling his story, 1056 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 4: and I'm like, I'm gonna use my platform, use my 1057 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,879 Speaker 4: book so Juice can tell his story even more. 1058 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1059 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 4: Because that's like my best like one of my best 1060 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 4: friends since I was nine years old. Yeah, we used 1061 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 4: to pick up cans together. You know what I'm saying, 1062 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:13,439 Speaker 4: that's my dog. 1063 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: And you start, like I said, you start the book 1064 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: talking about one of your newer artists, and you start 1065 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: in the book talking about you know, oj What were 1066 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 1: the similarities you think? 1067 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 2: Just two people that are close to me. 1068 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, That mean a lot to me, 1069 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 4: losing Scar with something that like I wanted to use 1070 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 4: that to help other people because it's just that's still 1071 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 4: like I still ain't okay from that, you know what 1072 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 4: I'm saying, And OHI have been going through a lot 1073 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 4: and I just wanted to show him like, I just 1074 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 4: want to show him a little. 1075 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 1: What emotional release did Did writing this book give you 1076 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 1: that music couldn't. 1077 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 4: I'm so I'm more proud of this book than I'm 1078 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 4: probably in the album I ever put out, because, like 1079 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 4: you said, it's kind of like talking about stuff that 1080 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 4: I used to be kind of like, UH had a 1081 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 4: stigma of you know what I'm saying, you got mental health? 1082 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 2: You crazy. It's like I used to be embarrassed about. 1083 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 4: Some of these situations, and I think used to want 1084 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 4: to talk about it. But now I'm confident and talking 1085 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 4: about it because I know that I can help somebody else. 1086 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 4: And it's like I don't even feel I don't feel 1087 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 4: no shame no more. 1088 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 7: And the conversations that you've been having recently, you know, 1089 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 7: have you begin to help people in that space where 1090 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 7: you're like, yo. 1091 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 2: I did it? Like everybody people. 1092 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 4: I did a book signing in Atlanta and a lot 1093 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 4: of folks are coming up to me saying, hey, you know, 1094 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,720 Speaker 4: thank you for this book. I've been sober eight years, 1095 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 4: Thank you for this book. You know I got bipolar. 1096 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 4: Thank you for this book. 1097 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 2: My friend. 1098 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, be going through episodes like 1099 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 4: I was getting a lot of it, and it felt 1100 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:31,919 Speaker 4: good to feel that love. 1101 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, It really did. 1102 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 3: Are you still surprised about the love? I heard you 1103 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 3: say something. You were in Miami doing a book signing 1104 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 3: and you were surprised about how many people came up 1105 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 3: to me and asked for an autograph for your book. 1106 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 3: But then I'm thinking about it, I'm like, you just 1107 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 3: did South Carolina comee coming that with sold out. You 1108 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 3: just did this show that was sold out show, Like. 1109 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 4: It's different when they come up like with that book. 1110 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 4: I don't know why, but it's like the book signing 1111 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 4: saying when they saying about your book. You know, I've 1112 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 4: been rocking with you since I was in junior high. 1113 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 4: You know you got me through college. Like it just 1114 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 4: the energy, it was like it made me feel I 1115 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 4: ain't felt that in a long time. You know, like 1116 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 4: touching the people, shaking their hand, taking the selfie with them. 1117 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 4: It's like when you do that at about two three 1118 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,839 Speaker 4: hundred people and they're telling you that you can't do 1119 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 4: nothing but feel good. 1120 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying. You're like a mythical figure to 1121 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: a whole generation. You got sexy red calling yourself the 1122 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:23,959 Speaker 1: Female Gucci Man South Carolina State. Them kids asked for you. Yeah, 1123 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 1: like I've seen the lists. I'm like, I don't even 1124 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 1: know who that is. It was about five. I'm like, 1125 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 1: I don't know who these people are, but they're like, oh, 1126 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: Gucci man, I know Gucci, Like they wanted you at 1127 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: South Carolina States? How did that make you feel? On 1128 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 1: the whole generation? And how that feel good? Feel good? 1129 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 4: When I go through these, I've been doing a lot 1130 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 4: of college I do Northfolk State on Tuesday, But like 1131 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 4: every time. 1132 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 2: I go to the college in there, like the kids 1133 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 2: know all the words. You know what I'm saying. 1134 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 4: The nineteen years old It's like, bro, you still touching 1135 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 4: people nineteen years old? 1136 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 2: They know this song? 1137 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 4: They singing songs that came out of two thousand and five, 1138 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 4: two thousand six. 1139 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 2: How old were out in? So that feel good? 1140 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 1: Did you? How make you feel keuchy when you see 1141 00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 1: sexy Red call yourself the female Gucci? 1142 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 6: I love it. 1143 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 5: I love when younger artists pay homage to him, like 1144 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 5: I be in the background, like when people don't pay 1145 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 5: homage to him or chet respect, I be mad. He 1146 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 5: don't get mad or whatever. But I watch everything online 1147 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 5: and I analyze it and if and anybody go against him, 1148 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 5: I'm going against them too. 1149 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,439 Speaker 7: I was going to ask does the book because you said, 1150 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 7: you know, seeing people come up to you with the book, 1151 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 7: it's like a great feeling for you. Does the book 1152 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,359 Speaker 7: make you feel like a superhero versus like music didn't? 1153 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 7: Because we talked about like our og like rappers being 1154 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,800 Speaker 7: like superhero sis, which a lot of people I feel 1155 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:35,839 Speaker 7: like they look at you that way. 1156 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 4: I'm super proud of being the author. You know what 1157 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 4: I'm saying. I read a lot of books. 1158 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 2: I read. People just don't write it about me, But 1159 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 2: I read a ton of books. You know what I'm saying. 1160 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,399 Speaker 2: I probably read two three books a month. 1161 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Big Macolm glad Wolf, you 1162 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: a huge. 1163 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 2: Big knock glad Well fan. You know what I'm saying. 1164 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 4: He just did a book range at a type of 1165 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,399 Speaker 4: point that I read that I love. 1166 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 1: You know. 1167 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 4: But I'm proud of being the author because I love books, 1168 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 4: and so it's like it's a different thing to being 1169 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 4: a rapper. You know what I'm saying. I want to 1170 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 4: make some more books. I like being a prolific art 1171 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 4: I'm trying to have more bus than Charlemagne. 1172 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got three yet I want to, I really do, 1173 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,399 Speaker 1: because I'm telling you, people who have to deal with 1174 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 1: those of us with mental health issues don't t stories enough. 1175 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's harder being me than him going 1176 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 5: through an episode because it's scary, like like we had 1177 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 5: a condo where we were on like the Penthouse, and 1178 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 5: I'm like, shit, is he gonna jump? Is the voice 1179 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 5: gonna tell him to jump? Like that's the scary part, 1180 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 5: not me being scared of him hurting me. So like 1181 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 5: during episodes, I make sure no one is around him 1182 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,399 Speaker 5: with guns, knives, high buildings. But he wouldn't leave that. 1183 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 5: That's where I had to kidnap him from. He would 1184 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 5: not leave there. He wouldn't come to the house, and 1185 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,839 Speaker 5: I'm like, shit, I had to get like a babysitter 1186 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,319 Speaker 5: for him because he hated me different episodes. He hate 1187 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 5: different people that if you have an episode where he 1188 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 5: hates me, that's a problem. He hated me. He wouldn't 1189 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 5: come home. He got the damn balcony, and I'm like, 1190 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,720 Speaker 5: is the voice gonna tell him? I can't sleep at night? 1191 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 5: I have to What is he doing now did he 1192 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 5: eat today? Like I have to play games with his 1193 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,879 Speaker 5: friends from Atlanta who he want to be with, and 1194 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 5: and then I'm like, don't give him any we throw 1195 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 5: it in the garbage. They called me back, Oh he 1196 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 5: needs read I gave him we today. I said, no, 1197 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 5: you didn't. You know, like stuff like that. It's hard. 1198 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,439 Speaker 5: It's so so, so so stressful, like you want to cry. 1199 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 5: And I cannot read that book. It's too sad, it's 1200 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 5: too much for me. It's too I don't read it. 1201 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 5: I read probably like three pages and I had to quit. 1202 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 1: What about what about You? When you got to relive 1203 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:39,760 Speaker 1: all of it. 1204 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:47,840 Speaker 2: Made me a big almost made me cry. And this 1205 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 2: book almost made me crying, almost made him cry. 1206 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 5: I book was putting Hi through an episode that I 1207 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 5: caught it got day one. 1208 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: So revisiting the trauma, yes, it puts him back. 1209 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,400 Speaker 4: But I can't las especially the best Alabama part is 1210 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 4: like damn that take me back there? 1211 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 1: You know. 1212 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 4: It's like then I started thinking about, you know, when 1213 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 4: I was young, my granddad and my mom like damn, 1214 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,919 Speaker 4: we was poor, and I'm like, I don't. I don't 1215 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,359 Speaker 4: think about that no more. You know what I'm saying, 1216 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 4: that was like, I know we were poor, but it 1217 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,320 Speaker 4: ain't like that. Not Well, when you go back to 1218 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 4: think about it, like damn man, the racist as time, 1219 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 4: poor as hell, you know, staying with my granddad, me 1220 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 4: and my mom my brother's like, we ain't have shit, 1221 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 4: we ain't have shit. 1222 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 1: So how do you protect yourself while revisiting that druma 1223 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 1: and on that press run and how do you protect them? Kisi? 1224 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 5: Well, the press run doesn't bother him. It's just like 1225 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 5: when he was writing the book, because he has to 1226 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 5: keep saying these things over and over and over. And 1227 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 5: actually this was my idea. I was like, you need 1228 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 5: to do a movie called episode and let people know 1229 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 5: what's going on. I said, I can tell you everything 1230 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 5: you've done through your episodes because he doesn't remember. And 1231 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 5: I was telling him how to make the movie. 1232 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 4: And that's how that's how we started the book, because 1233 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:56,959 Speaker 4: she told me to make a movie as soon as. 1234 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,759 Speaker 5: You have the episode. I was like this, people need 1235 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 5: to see this, I said, I said, you don't have 1236 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 5: to use your name. Let's just say you said. 1237 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 4: You know that if you ever seen that movie that 1238 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 4: is about mental health withing she I seen a movie 1239 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 4: about mental health with Dona Ross and you need to 1240 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 4: do a movie about Elvis. 1241 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 2: That's how it went, but I can't remember. 1242 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 4: It's like old Dona Ross play Billy Holliday and they 1243 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 4: say Bill how they had mental health issues. 1244 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 2: She saw that. 1245 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 4: She saw that movie and then she was like, you 1246 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 4: need to make make a move about yourself with the episodes. 1247 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 1: Wow, did you ever have to tell Kathy you need 1248 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 1: a break? Like, yo, man, let's take a break. 1249 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,319 Speaker 2: No, I ain't never tell her. I just I just 1250 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 2: ain't gonna lie with therapeutic. I liked doing it. 1251 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,399 Speaker 4: I was having fun doing it because it was like 1252 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 4: even like okay, when I was talking to Rocco and 1253 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 4: talking to Juice and they were telling me the stuff 1254 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 4: that I did, I had to tell them like, Bro, 1255 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,879 Speaker 4: I don't remember. I was like Rock, like you don't 1256 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 4: remember what was in Vegas and you had told me 1257 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 4: to come to the room. 1258 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:47,800 Speaker 2: I told you that. 1259 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm like Rock, I'm telling you, I don't remember. 1260 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:52,359 Speaker 4: I was going through episode done. 1261 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 2: He's like, damn, Bro, for real, he didn't he didn't know. 1262 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 4: Of course he didn't know, you know, and man, I 1263 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 4: would have never let you in the studio. They got 1264 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 4: done in that house. You know, he's so sanctified him 1265 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,359 Speaker 4: and his family. It's like, you don't bring that over 1266 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 4: they house. They like the church. The house is like 1267 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,399 Speaker 4: going to church. You know what I mean. You don't 1268 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,759 Speaker 4: bring drugs there, you don't bring beef there, you don't 1269 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:16,320 Speaker 4: bring nothing. 1270 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,799 Speaker 2: Now, you just come there with good intentions. It's all good. 1271 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 2: It's a bit. It's a that's when you see like 1272 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,360 Speaker 2: that family unit. You see that in say house. You 1273 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. You see somebody. 1274 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 4: You see a mother and a father who really care 1275 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 4: about their child, which is they in the game. A 1276 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 4: whole basement studio right there for him to create with 1277 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 4: his friend. 1278 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 2: Like you can't even bring that over there. 1279 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 1: But you could tell he loved you though, because he 1280 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 1: she would answer every call. You would come over and 1281 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:39,439 Speaker 1: he'd be like, man, what's wrong with you? 1282 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 4: Say one of my that's one of my best friends 1283 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,840 Speaker 4: ever like that, Like I love saying for that. Like 1284 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,319 Speaker 4: he always opened his doors for me. He knew I'd 1285 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 4: be going through stuff, like he never held it against me. 1286 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 4: He always room for me. Like if anybody ever had 1287 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 4: my back, like far as music, like they had my back. 1288 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to ask you what was What is 1289 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,960 Speaker 3: your vice now right? Is it working out? Is it 1290 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 3: the family? Is it praying? 1291 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 5: Like? 1292 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 3: What's what gets you away there? 1293 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 2: Before working out? 1294 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,479 Speaker 4: It's a vice working I work out six six days 1295 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,239 Speaker 4: out the week, sometimes two times, two times a day. 1296 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 5: That definitely helps with the mental health. 1297 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,759 Speaker 2: Shopping not really shocking. I don't shop. I don't even like. 1298 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 4: I don't even buy cars like I used to buy 1299 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 4: cars every year, like you know, swishing my life. Now 1300 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 4: I ain't about a cart since twenty twenty. I just 1301 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 4: got one founder and I take the kids to school 1302 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 4: in the fountal. 1303 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 1: That was in the book. You said something. I'm like, 1304 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 1: there's no way. You said you used to spend just 1305 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,440 Speaker 1: as much money on drugs as cars, and you did. 1306 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 2: Man, lean used to be so high. I used to be. 1307 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, I used to have so much. 1308 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 4: We remember, like I got a studio, I got all 1309 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 4: the artists, so I would supply everybody. I got lean 1310 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:46,759 Speaker 4: and weed for us. That's why they never used to 1311 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 4: leave the studio. They come over there as you're like 1312 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:49,480 Speaker 4: a part of the house. 1313 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 5: Then when I go there, the lean is in juice. 1314 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,800 Speaker 5: It's not allowed to drink around me. 1315 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 2: Switch it up, so I put it in a juices. 1316 00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,959 Speaker 5: What if I was to drink it, You don't drink juice. 1317 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 5: I was being strict black men because when I go there, 1318 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 5: it's like, oh, she's here. Put the leading up. But 1319 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,439 Speaker 5: now that we didn't live together then, but now he 1320 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:13,919 Speaker 5: I mean he would never. 1321 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 1: But wow, we all married the beautiful black woman and 1322 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,799 Speaker 1: I want gucci. You tell me how important is it 1323 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:20,839 Speaker 1: to have a good woman. Man. 1324 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,399 Speaker 4: It's the most important thing you can have, the best 1325 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 4: decision you can make. My best decision ever was to 1326 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 4: marry her and be with her. 1327 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 1: Right. 1328 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,400 Speaker 4: I got somebody to, you know, hold me accountable, and 1329 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:35,359 Speaker 4: I got somebody you know, watch TV with. Sometimes that's 1330 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 4: all you want to do, cheer bro. I'm kind of like, don't. 1331 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 4: I don't really need a lot. 1332 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 5: Like we're just like best friends and we just home 1333 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 5: just chilling and we everything we do we have it 1334 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,400 Speaker 5: in common with, like the same food, the same shows. 1335 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 6: We both. 1336 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:51,839 Speaker 1: Like to. 1337 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:59,080 Speaker 7: I want to say, you know, watching y'all, like from Afar, 1338 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 7: you You've been so strong throughout all of this. We 1339 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 7: would have never known how much you were taking on 1340 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,480 Speaker 7: because you also have like the businesses you were doing 1341 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 7: at the same time, like, did you do you feel 1342 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 7: because there's a whole like lane of women who do 1343 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 7: like the makeup like Keisha Kor and the because of 1344 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,360 Speaker 7: the products that you were doing. Do you feel that 1345 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,400 Speaker 7: impact as well while holding all this down? Do you 1346 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:19,400 Speaker 7: feel that for yourself? 1347 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 6: Sometimes? 1348 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,880 Speaker 5: No, I'm really strong, you know, and I still still 1349 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 5: do my makeup. I still have my company. Still, I 1350 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 5: still do everything. I I have like a schedule, I 1351 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,959 Speaker 5: have everything down that I do daily, and I still 1352 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 5: do it even during his episodes. I still get myself how. 1353 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,880 Speaker 7: You did all of this because cosmetics literally influenced such 1354 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:45,279 Speaker 7: a generation, the hairstyles, the clothing, like and people, I 1355 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 7: mean people know, but I don't know if they talk 1356 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 7: about that enough with you. But then you're also holding 1357 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 7: down all this stuff as well too, Like God, bless you. 1358 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,240 Speaker 5: I thank you and thank you God. 1359 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:57,400 Speaker 1: Do you think you're healing journeys over? 1360 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,000 Speaker 4: I know, even like we talk about from the verses 1361 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,200 Speaker 4: to now, like I knew I'm mature to lie from 1362 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,719 Speaker 4: twenty twenty to twenty twenty five, I'm still growing and 1363 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,440 Speaker 4: it's in a good way, you know what I'm saying, Like, 1364 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:10,879 Speaker 4: don't really nothing get me mad? 1365 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:11,239 Speaker 1: No, more. 1366 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:12,880 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like I don't hold on 1367 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,840 Speaker 4: to petted beast, I don't hold on to grievances. I 1368 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 4: don't care about slights. I ain't used to be like that, 1369 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,279 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Now It's like I'm in 1370 00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,279 Speaker 4: a real calm space though. You know, but it ain't 1371 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,399 Speaker 4: even that's just who I am now, It ain't who 1372 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 4: I'm trying to be. 1373 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, That's where I've grown to be. 1374 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 1: If you can redefine what it means to be real 1375 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,359 Speaker 1: in hip hop culture, what new code would you give 1376 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:35,480 Speaker 1: that this new generation? 1377 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,759 Speaker 4: Oh man, I let them know, like they talking about 1378 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,480 Speaker 4: their hood, but the best hood is fatherhood. 1379 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,080 Speaker 2: That's what you know, That's what I'm most proud of. 1380 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:43,799 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1381 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,799 Speaker 4: I love I love being in called dad. You know, 1382 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,399 Speaker 4: I love being a present dad. That's like I didn't 1383 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 4: even know that it was. There's so much joy and 1384 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 4: raising kids that it is. But you know what I'm saying, 1385 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,799 Speaker 4: Like raising the family has changed me. It has changed 1386 00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:58,399 Speaker 4: for the better. 1387 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,799 Speaker 1: Man. It's interesting. Have you spoken like other artist thing 1388 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,520 Speaker 1: are on the healing journey, Like we had Little John 1389 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,239 Speaker 1: up here, you can see the trend, you know, seeing 1390 00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,360 Speaker 1: that he on his healing journey. You know, even people 1391 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,160 Speaker 1: like Giez do y'all Do y'all speak about that? How 1392 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:09,839 Speaker 1: far y'all come? 1393 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:10,879 Speaker 5: Uh? 1394 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 2: Probably like me and Zay Mike will Mitte. Yeah, we 1395 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:15,399 Speaker 2: just spoke about that. 1396 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 1: So what does peace feel like for you? Right now? 1397 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 4: Peace feels like just you know, renting my label, being 1398 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,919 Speaker 4: with my family, ah, being content with what I did 1399 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,359 Speaker 4: in the industry, you know what I'm saying, and just 1400 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 4: keep building. 1401 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:31,839 Speaker 3: I love it. 1402 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,360 Speaker 1: What does peace feel like for you? Keisha? 1403 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:39,360 Speaker 5: I like to see him well, I don't like to 1404 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 5: see him like stressed out. That's why in my interview 1405 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,360 Speaker 5: with Carlos, I said, only think he got to do 1406 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,800 Speaker 5: a shower and go to the studio. I don't allow 1407 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,279 Speaker 5: him to do anything else because I don't want him 1408 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 5: he can't handle stress, because stress is a trigger and 1409 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,239 Speaker 5: stress brings on episodes. So I don't allow any stress. 1410 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,959 Speaker 5: He just be calm, wake up, go to bed early, 1411 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,759 Speaker 5: take care of the kids, go to the studio, and 1412 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:03,279 Speaker 5: that's it. 1413 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, they criticized you about that, but 1414 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 3: I think people don't understand because they're not in a 1415 00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 3: good union, right. 1416 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,320 Speaker 7: But I think reading the book and hearing the journey 1417 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:15,759 Speaker 7: that you guys have been on behind the scenes that 1418 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,399 Speaker 7: a lot of people didn't know about. I was sitting 1419 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,400 Speaker 7: here thinking, like you, you created a safe space for him. 1420 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's. 1421 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 5: And he didn't want that either. He wanted to go 1422 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,480 Speaker 5: back to Atlanta, and I'm like, going where. You got 1423 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 5: another house in Atlanta and I refuse to go there 1424 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,319 Speaker 5: with him, So like, I have to just put my 1425 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,160 Speaker 5: foot down. So we got rid of that. 1426 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:37,399 Speaker 2: I never would go to the house. 1427 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,320 Speaker 5: And if I go to Atlanta, I stay in a hotel. 1428 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,439 Speaker 5: We're not living here. It's not this is not good 1429 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:42,680 Speaker 5: for you. 1430 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,239 Speaker 3: I was gonna say they got on you for that, 1431 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,640 Speaker 3: but like I said, people don't understand union, right. And 1432 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,960 Speaker 3: the reason I say that is I'm sure Gucci's whole 1433 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:50,359 Speaker 3: thing is I want to make sure my wife is good. 1434 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 3: I want to make sure my family is good. I 1435 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,319 Speaker 3: want to protect them from the outside there. But as 1436 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,839 Speaker 3: a wife, you're the total opposite. I want to make 1437 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,759 Speaker 3: sure he's okay. I want to make sure he's not 1438 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 3: gonna have Stressful'm gonna makeure im, want to make sure 1439 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,320 Speaker 3: he can work and whatever it takes to do that. 1440 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,279 Speaker 3: That's what the wife does. That's what my wife does, 1441 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 3: that's what his wife does. But that's what a union is. 1442 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,600 Speaker 3: And most people who don't have a union. 1443 00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,600 Speaker 5: They don't get it. And every marriage relationship is different. 1444 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,399 Speaker 5: You might have a relationship where you have to take 1445 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 5: care of your wife, but I have to. My husband 1446 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 5: takes very good care of me. I'm not neither or 1447 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,799 Speaker 5: want for anything, but I have to take care of 1448 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,560 Speaker 5: him first because he has mental health issues. 1449 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,520 Speaker 6: I don't. I'm stronger than he is. 1450 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,239 Speaker 3: Well, the biggest thing we appreciate you for joining us. 1451 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:30,919 Speaker 3: I just want to say, the biggest thing that made 1452 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 3: me so happy. When you see Gucci talking about his kids, 1453 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,239 Speaker 3: I don't know, if you see the smile on his 1454 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,279 Speaker 3: you start a smile, start grinning. He like, I can't 1455 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 3: wait to get back and get to my son. 1456 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,200 Speaker 5: Like that is the biggest thing I see him right now, He'll. 1457 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:51,160 Speaker 1: Leave you feel like a generational curse breaker. 1458 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,040 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I know. My little boy. He gonna inherit 1459 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,960 Speaker 2: all this, He got so much, he so turned up. 1460 00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 3: Trust, ain't nothing wrong with it. 1461 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 6: You know he said it with a smile. 1462 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,880 Speaker 1: That's right, man, Go get episodes Right Now Man and 1463 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,400 Speaker 1: Diary of a Recovering Man. Man, this is there's some 1464 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,400 Speaker 1: books that are good. This is good, but it's also important. 1465 00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:12,280 Speaker 3: Man, it's important. 1466 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,120 Speaker 2: My album today to Man's. 1467 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:14,920 Speaker 1: Episode, I ain't even get that. 1468 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,759 Speaker 3: I didn't get to Let's get to a joint off 1469 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:20,040 Speaker 3: the album. What you want to hear of the album? 1470 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:20,800 Speaker 2: Voices? 1471 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 3: Voices? It's Gucci, Man, thank you so much for joining us. Now, Gucci, 1472 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:26,799 Speaker 3: I know you don't come out but every couple of years, 1473 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,799 Speaker 3: but you gotta come back. I know every one while 1474 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:29,359 Speaker 3: you have to come back. 1475 00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 1: I want to brother. 1476 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, you used to listen to Breakfast Clive in the 1477 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,160 Speaker 3: morning when you work out. Don't know if you still do, 1478 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 3: but you gotta come back. 1479 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:37,719 Speaker 4: I listen to y'all every day before I go to 1480 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,480 Speaker 4: the gym, and not my favorite part is the Positive Today. 1481 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:41,319 Speaker 3: There we go. 1482 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,360 Speaker 2: He loves that all you're positives. 1483 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:45,759 Speaker 4: Soon as I'm going to the gym, we around the gym. 1484 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,399 Speaker 4: We listen to y'all. But it's like the Positive Today 1485 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:48,920 Speaker 4: ain't stopped. Let me hear what he's saying. 1486 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:51,279 Speaker 2: That's what it is. 1487 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,360 Speaker 3: It's the Breakfast Club, Good Morning 1488 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:59,759 Speaker 1: Every day week Click up the breakfast club, y'all.