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Speaker 1: I have a series of quick fire questions for you. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here we go for this one. Who's your favorite witch

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Speaker 1: in Hocus Focus. I don't know any of their names.

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Speaker 1: You've got Winnifred, Bette Midler, You've got Sarah, Sarah, Jessica Parker,

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Speaker 1: but that's Winter Fred, Sarah, Mary, It's Mary. Sorry. I

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Speaker 1: duffiest one. And I've always felt like if I was

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Speaker 1: So probably that one. Okay, Okay, I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: get mixed up. I have to think about these things, Samantha,

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Speaker 1: to think about who is the one you want to be?

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Speaker 1: Why do you want to be them? Is it because

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Speaker 1: M well, yeah, I also remember I'm also very Asian

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Speaker 1: be personality wise, right right, Well, that is unfortunately the

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Speaker 1: did you ever watch the Powerpuff Girls? No? Okay, sorry, no,

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Speaker 1: no worries. That was you know, different time. I loved it.

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Speaker 1: I Bubbles was my favorite, which we talked about in

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Speaker 1: out a lot. Okay, so Sex in the City already

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Speaker 1: So based on that, based on the episode we recently did,

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Speaker 1: we wanted to bring back this classic on those stereotypes

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Speaker 1: around hair. So please enjoy. Welcome to Stuff Mom Never

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Speaker 1: Told You from House Stuff Works dot com. Hello, and

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Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. I'm Kristen and I'm Caroline, and

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Speaker 1: we're tackling the question do blonds have more fun? And

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about all hair colors, especially because well

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Speaker 1: we're really hounding in on what's the deal with blonde

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Speaker 1: sent there's this famous French courtesan, Rosalie Duth, who is

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Speaker 1: so popular in her day that she essentially spawns the

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Speaker 1: dumb blonde meme when a playwright takes a shine to

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Speaker 1: her and features her character and a one act play

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Speaker 1: and sort of satirizes this habit that Rosalie had of

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Speaker 1: taking very long pauses in conversation, and I kind of

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Speaker 1: think of her as like the blonde Kim Kardashian of

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Speaker 1: her day, because she was super famous in Paris at

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Speaker 1: the time for rubbing elbows with the royals. Obviously she

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Speaker 1: was a courtesan, and uh was just kind of famous

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Speaker 1: for being famous and for being dumb because the play

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Speaker 1: took off and now she's referred to as history's original

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Speaker 1: dumb blonde. Wow, what a legacy, I know. And I

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Speaker 1: guess you could say, though, in the same way that

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Speaker 1: Marilyn Monrose character and gentlemen prefer blondes, is intentional with

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Speaker 1: her uh, let's say, lack of intelligence because she rides

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Speaker 1: her beauty to the arms of wealthy men, which I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to advocate for, but you could say, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe she's I don't know, playing to her strengths or

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Speaker 1: something in a in a why am I arguing for this,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Well. She is included on Grant McCracken's

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Speaker 1: breakdown of the six categories of blondes. This is from

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Speaker 1: Big Hair, A Journey into the Transformation of Self. He says,

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Speaker 1: we've got a couple of different types of blondes. Marilyn

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Speaker 1: Monroe is up first, along with May West, as a

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Speaker 1: bombshell blonde We've got the sunny blonde whose Doris Day

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Speaker 1: and Goldie Hawn, Candice Bergen's brassy blonde, Sharon Stone's dangerous blonde,

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Speaker 1: cz Guest Society blond, and Marlene Dietrick and Grace Kelly's

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Speaker 1: cool blonde. So what kind of blonde do you want

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Speaker 1: to be? Just just choose your choice. Um, I did

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Speaker 1: want to make. The one note about gentlemen prefer blondes

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Speaker 1: is that before it was a film starring Marilyn Monroe,

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Speaker 1: it started out as a novel that was published in

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Speaker 1: by Harper's writer and screenwriter Anita Loose, and it was

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Speaker 1: this huge bestseller and it was all about this blonde

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Speaker 1: obviously protagonists whom Loose wanted to represent the nation's lowest

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Speaker 1: possible mentality. So yeah, that that horrible dumb blonde meme

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Speaker 1: just running through through history. It's really unfortunate, though I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like it's because it's obviously like

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Speaker 1: sometimes it's directed at men, but overwhelmingly it's directed at women,

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Speaker 1: and it usually is horribly sexist. And I'm friends with

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Speaker 1: plenty of smart blonde people. Yes, I'm aware of some

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Speaker 1: as well. Yes, But on a more serious note, though,

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Speaker 1: to kind of close things off on this Hair Color

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Speaker 1: Perceptions podcast, we want to talk about redhead discrimination because

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Speaker 1: while blonds are perceived a lot of times unfortunately as

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Speaker 1: more incompetent and brunettes were just kind of like, well

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Speaker 1: whatever and maybe too smart for their own good. Uh,

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Speaker 1: that's speaking in stereotype, not saying that's actually possible. Um,

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Speaker 1: redheads get the shortest end of the stick. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: had no idea before reading stuff for this episode that

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Speaker 1: there were actual, physical, violent attacks against redheads. I seriously

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Speaker 1: thought it was just like a joke coming from a

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Speaker 1: South Park episode. No idea that there was actual violence.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of it is in the UK. It

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Speaker 1: seems to be a very British phenomenon, and the head

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Speaker 1: of Kids Scape, which is a UK bullying prevention initiatives,

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Speaker 1: says that there's no logic to it. It's ingrained in

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Speaker 1: some part of our folklore. She says, yeah, and that

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Speaker 1: was coming from a Telegraph article from the past year

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Speaker 1: or two, for porting on an incident when a couple

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Speaker 1: of redheads were beaten up apparently just because they're redheads. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Dr Lisa Wade said that this could be related to

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Speaker 1: the long standing antagonism between Britain and Ireland, that the

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Speaker 1: discrimination against Irish people, who are typically the percentage of

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Speaker 1: redheads is higher. That this discrimination then crossed the Atlantic

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Speaker 1: with early Americans, so that it's just like you know

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Speaker 1: ingrained in everything. Yeah. And Robert Bartlett, who's a medieval

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Speaker 1: history expert who was interviewed for that Telegraph article, UM

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Speaker 1: says that the discrimination against redhead actually dates back to

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Speaker 1: ancient Egypt, where the gods Set, who was associated with earthquakes,

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Speaker 1: thunderstorms and eclipses, was depicted with pale skin and reddish hair.

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Speaker 1: And um, there's also some redhead discrimination in ancient Rome

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Speaker 1: when the gaels who were captured by Caesar were forced

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Speaker 1: to dye their hair red and learned German in order

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Speaker 1: to signify lass rank. And in the fifteenth century, we

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Speaker 1: can't leave out which witchcraft redheads were accused of being

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Speaker 1: which isn't burned at the steak. Oh no, so we're

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Speaker 1: obviously evil. I say weak is I really want to

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Speaker 1: be one of you? And let's not forget though, something

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Speaker 1: that could be perceived as a benefit. Kristen a University

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Speaker 1: at Hamburg study found the redheads have more active sex

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Speaker 1: lives than brunettes and blonds. So redheads get the last

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Speaker 1: laugh or the last orgasm. There you go. Perhaps perhaps

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Speaker 1: the redhead discrimination, though, does break my heart. I was

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Speaker 1: telling Caroline before we started recording this podcast that I

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Speaker 1: have a couple of young redhead nephews, and even at

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Speaker 1: ten years old, they're aware that being a redhead is

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Speaker 1: not cool. I think it is cool. And then I

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Speaker 1: responded to Kristen by saying, one of my first loves

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Speaker 1: was a ginger, so I have a very soft spot

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Speaker 1: for redheaded boys. Yeah. So I mean we need, maybe

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Speaker 1: should advocate for isn't there a hugged ginger day? Although

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Speaker 1: you know what I bet? I bet gingers don't want

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Speaker 1: to be pandered too. They don't want your pity, Kristen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they get called out for their their hair colors so often. Um,

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Speaker 1: but let's go though, wrap things up to our question

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Speaker 1: that we posed in the podcast title, do blonds have

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Speaker 1: more fun? Caroline? Certainly get more stereotypes, it certainly have

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Speaker 1: better luck hitch shiking. Yeah, I would say that. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think blonds do have more fun because they're

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Speaker 1: having to battle usually negative stereotypes about their intelligence. So no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the answer is no. Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess it depends on your definition, Like if if

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Speaker 1: you want, I mean, look at all these studies and

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Speaker 1: my papers that I'm jostling about men paying more attention

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Speaker 1: to blonds. So if that's your definition a more fun

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Speaker 1: maybe you should bleach your hair. But is it problematic

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Speaker 1: though that they're reason why, at least according to those studies,

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Speaker 1: that they're being approached more often is because they're perceived

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Speaker 1: as needier. Yes, but right, you know, to each his own. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And also where are the studies on on burnette perceptions?

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Speaker 1: I guess it's just like you're everybody. You're all over

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Speaker 1: the world, everybody's got your hair. You're just You're just

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Speaker 1: another person. They're not just another person to me. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Well blondes out there, we especially want to

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Speaker 1: hear from you or people who are perhaps bottle blondes.

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Speaker 1: Did going blonde change your life in any way? I

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Speaker 1: don't know? What do you? What do you think are

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Speaker 1: the hair color stereotypes real redheads out there? Have you

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Speaker 1: been unfairly discriminated against? Let us know all of your

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Speaker 1: hair color related thoughts, mom stuff at Discovery Dot com

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00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: is where you can send your letters, and you can

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00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: also message us on Facebook and tweet us at mom

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Speaker 1: Stuff podcast. And now back to our letters. Well, Kristen,

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Speaker 1: I have a letter here from MICHAELA about our kids

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Speaker 1: at the Workplace episode. She says, I found it rather

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Speaker 1: ironic to see your most recent podcast title because my

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00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: husband just dropped my five year old off in my

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Speaker 1: office for the afternoon while I work. I am fortunate

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Speaker 1: enough to work for a flexible company that allows pretty

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Speaker 1: much whatever reasonable concession necessary when dealing with parenting. Today,

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Speaker 1: my son is here just to enjoy stamping envelopes and

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Speaker 1: playing with my stapler. You watch out, MICHAELA. I I

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Speaker 1: remember in third grade my my classmates stapling her finger,

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Speaker 1: and she was not five, she was. However, you old

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Speaker 1: you are in third grade anyway, MICHAELA says. My husband

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Speaker 1: and I are so looking forward to this fall when

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Speaker 1: our daycare bill will be cut in half thanks to

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Speaker 1: that five year old of mine entering the school force.

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Speaker 1: We've been through four or five different daycares of various

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Speaker 1: quality before finding our current which is the most expensive

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Speaker 1: but definitely the best option we've found for our five

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Speaker 1: year old and two year old. Our daycare bill is

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Speaker 1: higher than our monthly mortgage payment. I would definitely pay

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Speaker 1: the equivalent of this for the convenience of on site childcare.

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Speaker 1: It would have been amazing after having my kids and

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Speaker 1: spending countless hours pumping bottles for the baby's I was missing.

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Speaker 1: So thanks MICHAELA and watch out for the Stapler. Well.

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Speaker 1: I've got an email here from Zara and she wanted

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Speaker 1: to another perspective on that podcast on childcare at work

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Speaker 1: and about how Quebec handles things. She writes, since nine seven,

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Speaker 1: Quebec has had a subsidized daycare system that is seven

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Speaker 1: dollars per day per child. Not everyone can get a

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Speaker 1: spot in subsidized daycare, which has led to some employers

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Speaker 1: building a daycare on the premises or taking an arrangement

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Speaker 1: with existing daycares to give priorities to their employers over

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Speaker 1: the general population. People on social Security also get priority

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Speaker 1: if I recall correctly, so they can go back to

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Speaker 1: the workforce. If you don't get a place in subsidized daycare,

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Speaker 1: you can get a refund at tax time if you

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Speaker 1: go to a non subsidized daycare. Non subsidized daycare is

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Speaker 1: usually charge about twenty to thirty dollars per day, though

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Speaker 1: some are more expensive. There's no sliding scale depending on

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Speaker 1: your child's age. It's the same fee for everybody. A

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Speaker 1: study published in two thousand twelve showed that subsidized daycare

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Speaker 1: is actually profitable for the government. Around seventy thousand women

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Speaker 1: went back to the workforce since the subsidized daycare program started,

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Speaker 1: for a proportion of seventy of women aged fifteen to

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Speaker 1: sixty four now working, up from sixty three in nine.

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Speaker 1: As a result, for each one hundred dollars that the

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Speaker 1: provincial government invested in the program, they received one hundred

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Speaker 1: and four dollars and the government received forty three dollars.

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Speaker 1: So apparently subsized daycare can be good not only for

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Speaker 1: businesses bottom lines, but also for Canadian provinces or Quebec specifically.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, no, that's a that's interesting to see how

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Speaker 1: it can profit the government as well. So thanks for

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Speaker 1: that insight to Zara and everyone else who is written

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Speaker 1: into mom stuff at Discovery dot com. You can also

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