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Speaker 1: It's time for Dodger by.

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Speaker 2: Soft lander to short bets.

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Speaker 1: Is there?

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Speaker 3: That's a win?

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Speaker 4: Friday, the Dodgers are going to the National League Division Series.

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Speaker 4: The Dodgers are going to Philadelphia. As they move on

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Speaker 4: in their quests, are running back in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to Dodger Blue Dream. It is Friday,

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Speaker 2: October three, twenty twenty five, and we are celebrating the

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Speaker 2: boys in Blue beat the Reds in a decisive, short

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Speaker 2: two game Wildcard series at Dodger Stadium this week, and

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Speaker 2: next up it's the Division Series against the hard hitting

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Speaker 2: Philadelphia Phillies. That best of five NLDS kicks off in

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Speaker 2: Philly on Saturday. And so we are one step closer

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Speaker 2: to our goal to become the first franchise to win

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Speaker 2: back to back World Series titles in a quarter century.

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Speaker 2: Eleven more wins, that's all we need. And we got

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Speaker 2: two big ones this week.

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Speaker 1: And we looked.

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Speaker 2: Good swag in a line drive rip right fail. There

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Speaker 2: was explosive offense runs, Galory.

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Speaker 1: Hold out for its right center field freedal is back.

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Speaker 2: That one is god Yamamoto and dominant swimming a mess.

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Speaker 2: Hey struck him out deep starts from both Blake Snell

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Speaker 2: and Yoshinobu Yamamoto. Todo escape so faces loaded, no out jam.

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Speaker 2: Our offense scored us enough runs to win, and our

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Speaker 2: starters held the other team at bay.

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Speaker 4: They score ten, they get seven strong from Blake Snell.

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Speaker 2: The bullpen stumbled their way in, but once it was

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Speaker 2: time for the bullpen to come in and preserve the lead,

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Speaker 2: it was a bit more of a mixed bag ball

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Speaker 2: four high ball four and that's low ball four.

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Speaker 1: Dave Roberts has seen enough and.

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Speaker 2: Riquez is just walked in a run for the Reds.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't all bad.

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Speaker 3: Carter got him.

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Speaker 2: But it was not all good.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, Alex wasn't sharp tonight, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 3: We didn't have any command.

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Speaker 2: And this has become a pattern, particularly of late. Even

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Speaker 2: amid the champagne soaked post series win celebration in the

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Speaker 2: locker room last night, the specter of the bullpen's mixed

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Speaker 2: performance in this series loomed large. Knew it wasn't gonna

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Speaker 2: be easy, but our bad stopping to show up. I

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Speaker 2: own private mister October keyk Hernandez said without even being asked, and.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna show up. Wegally they're gonna do their job.

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Speaker 2: The bullpen is gonna show up.

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Speaker 1: We believe in.

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Speaker 2: Them dot dot dot.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: Look, I believe, I dream, But like most Dodger fans,

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Speaker 2: that the bullpen does show up. Because to win it all,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna need better than a mixed bag. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: need more than thoughts and prayers. We're gonna need.

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Speaker 1: The Dows.

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Speaker 2: The Dodgers bullpen aka the Dows is going to be

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Speaker 2: key in the Dodgers pursuit of eleven more victories over

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Speaker 2: the next month to bring back the World Series championship

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Speaker 2: to Los Angeles and to become the first team to

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Speaker 2: go back to back with consecutive World Series titles in

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Speaker 2: twenty five years. So today we're going to talk about

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Speaker 2: the bullpen, what is it, how does it work, and

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Speaker 2: that have emerged out of the Dodgers bullpen over the

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Speaker 2: course of the twenty twenty five baseball season.

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Speaker 3: Ah, we are headed to go get some grub.

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Speaker 2: With me, as always is my co host, chef Wes Avila, And.

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Speaker 6: I think we're headed to Marisco Salisko or Marisco's Jalisco

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Speaker 6: as the locals call it.

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Speaker 2: And because like baseball, food is life, we'll be taking

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Speaker 2: a trip today to Boil Heights, East LA for a

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Speaker 2: bang bang tacos and burritos. How would you describe this

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Speaker 2: area kind of hood?

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Speaker 3: Like these are projects, this.

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Speaker 2: Is baseball and it's DBD. You never know what's gonna happen. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I got something to say, Yeah, yeah, what do you

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Speaker 2: want to say?

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Speaker 7: School Dodgers and Dodger Dog that's talking about step it up,

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Speaker 7: get it right, Let's do that.

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Speaker 1: Let's go all the way back to back.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Dodger Blue Dream. I'm Richard Parks, the third Superfish.

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Speaker 2: Today's episode the Power of the Downs.

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Speaker 1: See what I did there.

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Speaker 2: The bullpen always super important, and over time increasingly so.

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Speaker 2: In the early nineteen hundreds, the majority of baseball games

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Speaker 2: featured a complete game by at least one of the

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Speaker 2: when I was falling in love with baseball as a child,

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Speaker 2: there were still hundreds of complete games thrown in Major

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Speaker 2: League Baseball every season, but then those numbers started to fall.

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Speaker 2: By twenty fifteen, there were just over one hundred complete

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Speaker 2: games thrown in the MLB, and after declining year over

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Speaker 2: year for the past decade, in twenty twenty four, the

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Speaker 2: number of complete games thrown hit a new all time low.

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Speaker 2: There were just twenty eight. Because there's a general trend

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, yeah, it's been you know, numbers have gone down

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Speaker 2: In twenty fourteen, starting pitchers average nearly six innings per start.

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Speaker 2: Ten years later, in twenty twenty four, that average was

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Speaker 2: down to just a little over five innings per start.

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Speaker 3: I think to get a win, you got to get

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Speaker 2: Right, Yes, To qualify a statistical win as a starting pitcher,

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Speaker 2: you need to log at least five innings. It used

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Speaker 2: the hook earlier and earlier.

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Speaker 3: For a lot of times, they're getting the hook at

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Speaker 6: And it's a shame because some of these guys will

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Speaker 2: Teams watch their starting pitchers, pitch counts very closely. Once

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Speaker 2: More and more relief pitchers coming out of the bullpen

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Speaker 2: are playing a deciding role in baseball games. And why Well,

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Speaker 2: there's the rise of analytics and data driven strategies, which

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Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Dodgers organization has wholeheartedly embraced and often

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Speaker 2: Right, so pitching is more physically strenuous than it ever

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Speaker 2: The second time, they're reading the picture's body language for tells,

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Speaker 2: in the postseason that's even more so true. It's the

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Speaker 2: Sometimes this is October. Everything is different, and so postseason

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Speaker 2: stats on bullpen usage mirror the same trend as the

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Speaker 2: regular season. Over time, we see the bullpen becoming more

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Speaker 2: and more important. In twenty fifteen, starters average five and

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Speaker 2: A decade later, in twenty twenty four, starters averaged just

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Speaker 2: October base seventeen percent of pitchers who had allowed two

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Speaker 2: fewer batters AKA twice through the lineup. The last complete

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Speaker 2: game start in the playoffs was Justin Verlander in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: And for the Dodgers, the trends around bullpen usage are

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think historically for the last five years, like during

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Speaker 2: Last year kind of the same thing, Zach, we basically

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Speaker 2: Had like two and a half total pictures last year. Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 2: How on earth would we make it all the way

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Speaker 2: through the postseason? The answer the dogs?

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Speaker 1: So can you explain the dogs?

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Speaker 3: You knew when they were coming in they were gonna

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Speaker 6: You didn't get a collective sigh when somebody comes in

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Speaker 3: You're like, put him in, let's go.

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Speaker 2: The Dodgers used their bullpen pictures sixty percent of the

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Speaker 2: time throughout the twenty twenty four postseason, filling in the

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Speaker 2: gaps for a banged up starting staff. It's not a

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Speaker 2: stretch to say that our bullpen won us the World Series.

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Speaker 1: Last year.

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Speaker 2: The Dows became the stuff of legend in the city

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, absolutely, That's why they got a bunch of credit

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Speaker 6: and people love them. You got to know the guys

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Speaker 3: You see them every pitching every day.

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Speaker 2: It's like even Brent Honeywell Junior and Vip Brent Honeywell Junior.

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Speaker 1: Yet not a high leverage guy, but an important.

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Speaker 3: Piece nonetheless, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: But this year things are quite different. That's why it's

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Speaker 2: so surprising that this year, going into the postseason, the

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Speaker 1: Series last year is our biggest concern, the bullpen.

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Speaker 3: This year, the bullpen has been like nerve wrecking.

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Speaker 2: The dogs have lost their bite.

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Speaker 3: And not just one guy, multiple guys.

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Speaker 2: Will be right back after a short break.

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Speaker 3: But man, it's like, get it together, you know.

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Speaker 2: Stay with us. We'll get back to the baseball in

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Speaker 2: just a little bit. But first, I believe we're entitled

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Speaker 1: Can you tell me what we're doing at this moment.

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Speaker 6: We are looking for parking the mission. We're trying to

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Speaker 2: There's a whole stretch of Olympic here where there are

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Speaker 3: Kind of hood like these are projects.

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Speaker 6: Don Quixote is a dance hall that's right here where

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Speaker 3: Had her Kingtonetta no Way for years.

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Speaker 6: Don Quixote has been like the spot, like we dj

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Speaker 1: You rent it out, you.

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Speaker 3: Rent it out and they cook beata for you.

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Speaker 2: But we are not here for Beda. We're here for

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Speaker 2: Marisco's Helisco is sur vibe, people tailgating, eating on the

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Speaker 3: Ain't I'm bumping too short?

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Speaker 1: It actually kind of feels like Oakland a.

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Speaker 3: Little bit, a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you know anything about the origins of Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: If the origins you'd have to talk to Billas bars

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Speaker 1: History of He's probably written about it.

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Speaker 6: He's probably written a bunch of stuff so he can.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to butcher it. All I know is

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Speaker 6: that and his crew makes them awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Jay Gold told me about it years ago. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean this place is legendary. It was like, it's

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Speaker 3: one of my favorite places to come. What do you want?

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Speaker 3: Just one yea skip at Taco.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of the Jay Goulds, but I used his profile

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Speaker 2: for the the Gold Award.

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Speaker 3: I had to painted inside my restaurant.

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Speaker 1: The profile Jonathan gold.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, hello, good, how are you to get to two tackles?

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Speaker 3: Just individuals? We're here, that's it for.

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Speaker 2: Good.

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Speaker 1: What are you doing? Do you mind saying hi for

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Speaker 1: the mic?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Can you tell me who you are and where we are? Hi?

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Speaker 3: Guys. This is.

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Speaker 1: One of the most iconic bites in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you, thanks to everybody that comes to jake

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Speaker 6: it out.

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Speaker 1: Can you describe the taco that we're getting.

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Speaker 3: It's a shrimp and potato deep fried taco.

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Speaker 6: It's got a like a tomato, like a loose tomato

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Speaker 6: sauce on the top, with cabbage chopped, cilantro chopped, and

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Speaker 6: like a good amount of avocado, so like they don't

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Speaker 6: they don't spare on the avocado.

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Speaker 3: And it's great.

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Speaker 6: It's like three yeah still still so so it's really hot.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm bomb straight out of the friar. So good. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Second, so where's the don Quixote?

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Speaker 3: Is on the street? Las Palmas is out of there,

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Speaker 3: out of the same building. Can we stop by there

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Speaker 3: too if you want? They were swing by there?

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Speaker 1: Why now?

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Speaker 3: Why not?

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Speaker 6: Why shouldn't they get one of those little guys?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So we're doing we're doing a bang bank.

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Speaker 3: We're doing the bang bank.

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Speaker 1: I saw the twinkle in your eye. I was like,

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Speaker 1: how is this guy walking away with with one? I

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Speaker 1: don't know, Chef West having one trimp taco.

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Speaker 6: No, I'm not a one trip Tamco tind of guy.

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Speaker 1: Right, So now what.

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Speaker 6: Are we doing stopping and have a real quick little Brito's.

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Speaker 1: A very small skinny cube mo.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, almost like taco almost like three bits.

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Can we get one and then the other one? Uh right?

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Speaker 2: Taco number two. I think this is the burrito that

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Speaker 2: inspired the question when does a taco.

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Speaker 1: And then a burrito? But again, yeah, this is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this one. These are like little narrow guys.

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Speaker 1: I love these guys.

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Speaker 2: It's just the perfect like size and these tortillas are

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Speaker 1: A Ross Serrano here, Bloa, he just went for it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Bully ross Rano straight to the.

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Speaker 2: Dome hashtag chef life. Our belly is now full. It's

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Speaker 2: time to turn back to baseball. And if you remember,

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Speaker 2: before the break, we established the fact that the bullpen

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Speaker 2: and that bullpen usage has steadily increased over recent years,

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Speaker 2: Series title. And unfortunately, over the course of the twenty

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Speaker 2: area of concern. We can't win without them, but they're

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Speaker 2: Blake Snell gave us a super deep start seven innings,

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Speaker 1: They get ten.

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Speaker 2: But still, somehow the bullpen made that game scary ball

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Speaker 1: And Dave Roberts has seen enough.

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Speaker 2: We had to use three pitchers to get through the

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Speaker 2: eighth innings. Driquez has just walked in a run for

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Speaker 3: You have to challenge hitters. You cannot issue free passes.

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Speaker 2: This isn't the way the story was supposed to unfold.

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Speaker 2: And so what happened to the dogs since last October

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Speaker 6: Just in general, our pitching was finally getting the help

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Speaker 6: it deserved, the help that needed to help all the

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Speaker 6: MLB did not want to see, and everybody was getting healthy.

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Speaker 6: So we thought we kind of had it locked, to

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Speaker 1: And we had the dogs from us and we had

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Speaker 2: It wasn't like a bunch of pitchers who were great

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Speaker 2: and Dave Roberts made that a priority and we resigned him.

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Speaker 6: And so the expectation was to have this like really

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Speaker 6: I mean, these guys who can just get it done.

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Speaker 2: Because we had all the dogs, we re signed trin

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Speaker 1: Two very key pieces.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, basically two closers who were available on the free

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Speaker 1: We got Kirby Yates, who's a righty, and we got.

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Speaker 3: Antley for it. You know, Scott from the Padres.

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Speaker 1: Rally bunkies are out. They're gonna have to bring the

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Speaker 1: rally gilli for this man, Eric Ganie.

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Speaker 2: The Dodgers have always historically had like a really big

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Speaker 6: Gan Ye gets Kennedy on a low fastball about ninety

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Speaker 3: Too much movement.

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Speaker 1: Kenley Henley Janssen.

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Speaker 4: Jansen makes the catching eggs the nine button up, his

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Speaker 1: Ken Lee basically it was time for him to wind

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Speaker 3: Two balls and two strikes on Show.

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Speaker 2: Hail Tommy Tanner Scott was sort of brought in to

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Speaker 2: fill that.

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Speaker 3: Role the Showgay Killer, Yes.

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Speaker 2: On the corner.

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Speaker 1: Last year he was on the Padres.

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Speaker 2: It just keeps getting better. They're gonna be mad about

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Speaker 4: We got some breaking news the Dodgers and left handed

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Speaker 2: Do you feel most comfortable in those situations where you getting.

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Speaker 1: To save and when I just want to win. So

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Speaker 1: whenever the phone rings, I'm ready, And.

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Speaker 2: Is the title closer to me anything?

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Speaker 1: At this point, I just want to win.

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Speaker 3: I just want to win.

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Speaker 1: That's my goal. And I mean I wasn't a part

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Speaker 3: So it's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 1: Because he was a huge signing. You got a lot

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Speaker 3: Did he get a lot of years? Yeah? You better

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 2: He's like a part of the master plan for our dynasty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, then no wonder Doc is relying on him so much. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: put him in there, let him figure it out.

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Speaker 2: We acquired a righty closer and a lefty closer to

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, expectations are high.

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Speaker 6: Expectations are high, and it's looking pretty good the beginning

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Speaker 6: Scott had some rocky outings in the beginning. True, but

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Speaker 6: I can't point to the exact moment it did, but

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Speaker 1: Well, we were also hit with some injuries.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we were hit with injuries.

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Speaker 6: Bruce Door has been gone all year and Evan Phillips.

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Speaker 6: Evan Phillips has been gone all year.

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Speaker 2: Who was I would say like top dout like him

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Speaker 2: and Trining over the past couple of years have been

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Speaker 1: We started relying on.

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Speaker 2: But we had a league leading twenty six blown saves

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Speaker 3: We are going home? I think twenty seven altogether or

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Speaker 1: Yes, we have it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: The major league lead in blown saves, which is like

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Speaker 6: You hear that kind of a voiceing what the man,

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Speaker 3: Like it's so bad and so frustrating.

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Speaker 2: We also had ninety six meltdowns, which is the most

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Speaker 1: So that kept happening this year, in ninety six of those.

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Speaker 3: It was so frustrated. We couldn't get like it just

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this year, this year the bullpen has been like

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Speaker 6: nerve wracking. I mean, and not just one guy, multiple guys.

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Speaker 6: Like you take one out and you're like, all right,

448
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Speaker 6: let's switch him out. Let's switch out trying in with Banda.

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Speaker 6: Let's switch out Banda with Vessio. Let's switch out Vessio

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Speaker 6: with Tenner Scott.

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Speaker 1: It kind of didn't work out with Kirby either, right, No.

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Speaker 3: It didn't work out with Kirby. The biggest disappointment has

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Speaker 3: been ten Or Stock.

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Speaker 6: I think the bottom bottom bottom.

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Speaker 3: Had to be when they blew it for Yoshi Oh.

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Speaker 2: Yes, when Yoshinobu Yamamoto took a no hitter all the

457
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Speaker 2: way into the ninth.

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Speaker 1: Inning any right field.

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Speaker 2: And then gave up a home run pot his turs

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Speaker 2: and wanted to go no hitter gone. But it's not

461
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Speaker 2: that big a deal. The game's in the bag. There

462
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Speaker 2: was two outs in the ninth inning. The bullpen just

463
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Speaker 2: had to get one out and they couldn't. Tanner Scott

464
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Speaker 2: gave up the game, losing hit the middle said my

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Speaker 2: tail out third Hotel two storm.

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Speaker 3: Had to go moment and.

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Speaker 2: Time Wow, September the sixth.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I think they had to be the bottom

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Speaker 6: worst of our bullpits.

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Speaker 2: You know, that was just sad that a close sort

471
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Speaker 2: of deal with mentalist was just some of the struggles

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Speaker 2: this season especially kind has been turning rounders.

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Speaker 3: H Yeah, it's terrible.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm having the worst year in my life,

475
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Speaker 2: so it's not fun. What they call the mental game, yeah,

476
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Speaker 2: is where he struggles.

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Speaker 1: It's it's kind of Baseball hates.

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Speaker 3: Me, right, now.

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Speaker 6: It's just been really bad, Like you feel bad. It's

480
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 6: so bad that you feel bad for.

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Speaker 3: Talking so much on the guy.

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Speaker 6: But at the same time, it's like, man, it's like

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Speaker 6: get it together, you know, like it's that bad, you know,

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Speaker 6: and people are.

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Speaker 8: All like, he'sid enough time, he's not gonna figure it out.

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Speaker 8: Pull up, Like, dude, if you completely give up on

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Speaker 8: the guy, there's no way, you know. That's why I

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Speaker 8: was like, I talk, I talk, But that's.

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Speaker 6: Why I call him Terror squad Man, because when he

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Speaker 6: goes out there and gets the job done, he gets

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Speaker 6: it done.

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Speaker 3: So hopefully that can keep going. You know, if like,

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Speaker 3: just turn it on, just turn it on. It's it.

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Speaker 3: Turn it on to love you. It's like a gladiator.

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Speaker 3: You know, they want to see blood if you give

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Speaker 3: them blood from the other teams.

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Speaker 2: So, the bullpen has been associated with some traumatic memories

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Speaker 2: of late.

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Speaker 3: What's this chickens roosters? Oh, we gots just in the

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Speaker 3: hood the hood. Yeah, No, it was bad.

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Speaker 2: We are driving past a historic location, so I gotta

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Speaker 2: pause for that. Right up here is where you and

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Speaker 2: I met for the historic location. Yes, right right here here,

504
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 2: this law here right right in there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's right here where there's game is.

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Speaker 1: Yes, this one right there.

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Speaker 3: It is right there.

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Speaker 1: Yep, that's where we met for the first time.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: By the time we were headed down the stretch toward

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Speaker 2: the end of the twenty twenty five regular season, the Dodgers'

512
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 2: chances at a division title were in question. It was

513
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 2: no guarantee that we'd even make the post season, and

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Speaker 2: a lot of that was due to the poor performance

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Speaker 2: of our bullpen throughout the season. So how did we

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Speaker 2: stick it out? The answer, at least in large part

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Speaker 2: down the stretch run of the month of September, was

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Speaker 2: our starting rotation. The starters bailed out the dows when

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Speaker 2: the dows lost their bite. September is a really key

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Speaker 2: month for a team that's going to make a postseason run.

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Speaker 1: That's when we saw the bullpen at its worst.

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Speaker 2: Really yeah, So it was a really scary September because

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Speaker 2: our starters were historically dominant, ex setting records. It seemed

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Speaker 2: like every other day was a different starter was taking

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Speaker 2: a no hitter deep into a game and just shut

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Speaker 2: out after shutout, but hand it over to the bullpen.

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Speaker 1: Shut out, no.

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Speaker 6: More blowout, blown game, I should say blown game after

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Speaker 6: blown game, and the.

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Speaker 1: Offense can only do so much.

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Speaker 2: The Dodgers starting rotation allowed fewer than two runs on

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Speaker 2: average throughout September, struck out thirty percent of all batters faced,

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Speaker 2: and held their opponent's batting average to an all time low.

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00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: The bullpen, on the other hand, had a rough month,

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Speaker 2: combining for an ERA over five, a thirteen percent walk rate,

536
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Speaker 2: and allowing twelve home runs compared to just four allowed

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Speaker 2: by the starting staff. As September was drawing to a close,

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Speaker 2: with the postseason right around the corner, we were looking

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Speaker 2: for solutions to this problem. Dodgers manager Dave Roberts started

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Speaker 2: getting creative.

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Speaker 6: And because we have so many good starters, then it

542
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 6: puts us in a situation where we could potentially use

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Speaker 6: Rokie as a setup guy.

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Speaker 3: Kersh is a setup guy.

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Speaker 6: Shean is a setup guy, right, you know, and even

546
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Speaker 6: one of them closing, like even show closing, why not.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the dream. Just like he did in

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Speaker 1: the World Baseball Class.

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00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 3: You know, he shows up.

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Speaker 6: He can pitch in a big game like that, and

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Speaker 6: it's a beautiful thing to see.

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Speaker 2: Things took a turn for the better, mixing in some

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00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 2: of our starters coming out of the pen was working

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00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: out and the dows started to get there, bite back.

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Speaker 3: They've actually turned it around.

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00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 2: Blake trying and shaved and all of a sudden he

557
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: was looking like his old self pitching wise, the vibes shifted.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it worked for Tryina.

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Speaker 6: I mean he went in there finally shaved up all

560
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Speaker 6: his thing and look good, brand new hat.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't look as much like a CHP officer anymore.

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Speaker 6: No, yeah, for sure, he didn't like you'll pull you over.

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Speaker 6: Now he looks like a rookie. So his pitching looks

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Speaker 6: solid too. It look the dogs look dialed.

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Speaker 3: It looked like, oh my god, they're gonna have other

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Speaker 3: teams are gonna have trouble.

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Speaker 6: I hope, we hope. You know, it's always our expectation.

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Speaker 6: That was their expectation in the beginning, and that's what

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Speaker 6: I hope for.

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Speaker 1: Now they look more like themselves.

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Speaker 6: Now, they look like we expected them to play in

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Speaker 6: the beginning.

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Speaker 3: They look like the dogs.

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden. We had a road map because

575
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: in October baseball you might see anybody coming out of

576
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 2: the relievers and starters alike.

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Speaker 6: There's so many options that Doc has now for the

578
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 6: post that like he wasn't using at all, Like he

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00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 6: was still trying to grind out with these guys, just

580
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 6: grinding it out, grinding it out with Tennor Scott, just

581
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 6: letting him terrorize us with like whether he's gonna do

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Speaker 6: it or not.

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Speaker 2: Then this past week at Dodger Stadium during the Wildcard Series,

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Speaker 2: we saw the new plan at work. And sure there

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Speaker 2: were some rocky moments, especially in Game one when a

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Speaker 2: ten to two lead somehow didn't seem like enough for

587
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: a trio of Dodger believers who couldn't seem to throw

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Speaker 2: a strike. But we got through it. And then in

589
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: Game two, I liked what I saw Emit. Shean typically

590
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: a starter, made an appearance out of the pen, and

591
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: he wasn't perfect by any means, but Bessie came in

592
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 2: and finished the job, looking solid, trying and pitched to

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Speaker 2: clean inning. And then we got to see rookie phenom

594
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: Roki Sasaki, always intended to be a part of our

595
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: starting rotation, make his post season day to close out

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00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: the game the way from moving on to Philadelphia.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Sosaki sets it fires.

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00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 2: And during a clean bottom of the ninth inning in

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Speaker 2: the deciding game against the Reds Rokie was electric. Not

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00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: so in proay.

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Speaker 4: The Dodgers are going to the National League Division Series.

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Speaker 4: The Dodgers are going to Philadelphia.

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Speaker 2: And what will we see from the bullpen in the NLDS,

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Speaker 2: which starts this weekend in Philadelphia against the big slugging

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Speaker 2: Phillies Trey Turner, Bryce Harper, Kyle Schwarber. Will the Dowgs

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00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: regain their power?

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Speaker 6: You know, that's the awesome thing about playoff baseball. You

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00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 6: see all the stuff like getting pulled out.

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00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: Unusual situations. Yeah, heightened drama.

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Speaker 6: And I hate those games, but I love them at

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Speaker 6: the same time. I hate those games.

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Speaker 3: I just want to see them win five zero, seven

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00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 3: to zero. That's it. I don't want these Oh, no,

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Speaker 3: struggle give me a heart attack.

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00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 2: Driving through Chinatown, we're driving through all the places today,

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Speaker 2: ladies playing Majong out on the.

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Speaker 3: Street lights to the arts district, like deep deep Chinatown.

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Speaker 6: You have taken this slow route back to Richie's so

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Speaker 6: we can get this all recorded up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a beautiful day, beautiful drive through LA.

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Speaker 1: It's got that low bottom sun.

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Speaker 3: That orange sun, that bright, bright orange.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the gold sun.

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00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: When you get that yummy light for like the last

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00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: couple hours. It definitely all of a sudden feels like autumn.

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Speaker 3: We have baseball, fall, baseball.

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Speaker 6: We were just talking about that and like my yoga

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Speaker 6: class from summer to fall, like how it's the change,

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Speaker 6: you know, we go summer and moving on and fall

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Speaker 6: is here.

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Speaker 1: It's time.

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Speaker 2: It's time once again for the postseason. All right, I

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00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 2: feel pretty good?

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Speaker 3: Yeah good?

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Speaker 1: Anything else?

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Speaker 3: No?

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00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: All right, thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: And we'll see you next week.

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Speaker 2: As always, I'm Richard Parks the Third and I'm Wes Sabila.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. Boom.

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Speaker 5: Dodger Blue Dream is written and produced by Richard Parks

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Speaker 5: the Third. This episode was story edited by Caitlin Esh.

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