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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We have my friend

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Speaker 1: Tim Murta with me today. He is the founder of

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Speaker 1: Line Drive Public Affairs and he was also a senior

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Speaker 1: advisor on the twenty twenty four Trump campaign and was

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Speaker 1: the communications director for Trump in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining me.

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Speaker 3: Good to see you again, Tutor. I am pleased as

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Speaker 3: it can be to be with you again. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: Absolutely so, we have so much to get to.

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Speaker 1: We were chatting a little bit about it before we

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Speaker 1: went on the air, and so I want to I

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Speaker 1: want to get into all of it. But you were

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Speaker 1: telling me about this Biden pill penalty. It's something that

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Speaker 1: I didn't even know was a problem out there. I

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Speaker 1: think most Americans probably don't realize this, but I think

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Speaker 1: we're kind of a little bit more aware of the

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Speaker 1: fact that we have issues with our pharmaceuticals. From the

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Speaker 1: standpoint of we saw during twenty twenty suddenly everything's being

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Speaker 2: We can't get it here.

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Speaker 1: Now there's something new we should be worried about we

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Speaker 1: probably don't even know about. To explain a little bit

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Speaker 1: about the Biden pill penalty to us.

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Speaker 3: This thanks very much for bringing this up. This is

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Speaker 3: something that was snuck into the Inflation Reduction Act, the

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Speaker 3: poorly named Inflation Reduction Act is as we all know,

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Speaker 3: it didn't do anything to reduce inflation, but it was

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Speaker 3: passed by Joe Biden and the Democrats. Not a single

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Speaker 3: Republican voted for it, and allegedly he was doing this

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Speaker 3: to try to do something about the cost of medicine,

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Speaker 3: but it actually has the opposite effect. What the Biden

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Speaker 3: pill penalty does is it treats different categories of medicine differently.

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Speaker 3: You have one category of medicine, which are called large

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Speaker 3: get talking about IDs or injections or infusions. Those are

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Speaker 3: more inconvenient. Of course, you have to go to the

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Speaker 3: hospital or doctor to get them, and they're far more expensive.

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Speaker 3: On the other side, you have a different category of

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Speaker 3: pills of medicine, which are called small molecules. Think of pills.

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Speaker 3: These are the medicines that people can take at home.

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Speaker 3: They're much more convenient. We know that people are more

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Speaker 3: it's convenient for them, if it's easy to get you

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Speaker 3: can get pills by mail, you can take them at home.

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Speaker 3: They're much more convenient, and they're also cheaper. Pills on

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Speaker 3: average are seventy one percent cheaper than the biologic large

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Speaker 3: molecule forms. And that makes perfect sense to want to

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Speaker 3: have people take those kinds of medicines. But what did

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Speaker 3: the Biden pill penalty do. It drove people away from

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Speaker 3: the cheaper, more convenient medicines. And what that means is

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Speaker 3: it drives up costs of the medicines themselves. It caused

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Speaker 3: drives up the cost to make them, It drives up

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Speaker 3: the costs for patients, and it drives up the cost

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Speaker 3: for the entire healthcare system. It discriminated against pills by

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Speaker 3: So it is driving all of the research dollars away

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Speaker 3: large molecule medicines. And the result is that since this

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Speaker 3: It's either gone to the large molecule injection drugs, the

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Speaker 3: It's on to AI or to the energy sector where

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Speaker 3: people are investing their money. It is if you were

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Speaker 3: The Biden pill penalty is about the dumbest thing you

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Speaker 3: did it. Republicans can save it. However, President Trump signed

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Speaker 3: an executive order just the other day that addresses the

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Speaker 3: cost of prescription medication, and getting rid of the Biden

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Speaker 3: and Congress can do it. There's a piece of legislation

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Speaker 3: completely backwards. It drives up the cost of medicine, It

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Speaker 2: That is going to be actually looking at this.

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Speaker 1: And an FDA that is going to be looking at

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Speaker 1: we have potential years of breakthroughs that will not be

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Speaker 2: It's I think that's a double whammy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And look, I think there and we're talking about

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Speaker 3: You'd have to ask if he can possibly answered this question,

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Speaker 3: why Joe, why did you do this? I mean, he

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Speaker 3: probably doesn't enough, but it's kind of like the same

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Speaker 3: you're not going to find it. But you're exactly right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this really does all boil down to costs

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Speaker 3: the fact is the Biden pill penalty discourages the development

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Speaker 3: cholesterol drug Libatory, which is a great example. Everyone knows

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Speaker 3: you can get your cholesterol medicine for basically pennies a dose, right,

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Speaker 3: that's because of generics. Pill penalty actually actively discourages the

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Speaker 3: the opposite of what you would do because it discourages

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Speaker 3: the development of pill form medicine. And again we're talking

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Speaker 3: Biden said, I'm going to be the president who cures cancer,

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Speaker 3: applications for existing medicines. Eighty eight discoveries or breakthroughs have

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Speaker 3: result of that, Again, according to the University of Chicago,

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Speaker 3: be able to use the pills at home that are convenient.

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Speaker 3: driving people still He's no longer president, and he's still

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Speaker 3: The Biden pill penalty. It has got to go. Congress

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Speaker 1: We have to be aware of who we are electing

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Speaker 1: That was people say, oh, podcasts for the reason that

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Speaker 2: Man, you know what? This is really going to screw

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it's kind of anyone's guess. And I

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Speaker 3: especially with something this monstrosity, the Inflation Reduction Act. First

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Speaker 1: You see this happening across the country and that honestly,

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Speaker 2: People don't get that.

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Speaker 1: They're like, oh, that he just wants to do it

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Speaker 1: because that's how he got elected. No, he's actually listening

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Speaker 1: to people because some people have built their entire career,

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Speaker 1: their entire livelihood online and now this threatens to take

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Speaker 1: that all for what for Jack Dorsey's selfish purposes. And

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Speaker 1: that's how leftists are all the times, like this doesn't

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Speaker 1: work for me, but this will work for me. And

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Speaker 1: that's why I think you've seen the Democrat party get

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Speaker 1: away from the working person and become this party of

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Speaker 1: the snobbish, rich elite.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I look, Jack, when he ran Twitter, he didn't

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Speaker 3: do anything to compensate or pay to the people who

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Speaker 3: are creating the content that made his platform successful. Didn't

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Speaker 3: He didn't do any right. Yeah, Rumble Chris Pavlovski is

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Speaker 3: the guy, the CEO of Rumble. He's the one who

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Speaker 3: tore into Jack and said, this is about the dumbest

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Speaker 3: idea you can. Rumble pays its creators and there's revenue

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Speaker 3: sharing there. They do a pretty good job with that.

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Speaker 3: Well you're talking about how about recording artists? You know

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Speaker 3: all these Hollywood you know, people who like Katie Perry,

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Speaker 3: and now that she's back from out it, from her

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Speaker 3: heroic trip to space, recording artists like her, there would

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Speaker 3: be nothing stopping anyone from just stealing everything that she

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Speaker 3: creates and making money off of her creation. Hollywood films.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing China already rips off Hollywood films, So then

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Speaker 3: now there would be basically no barriers should be doing

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Speaker 3: that this very podcast Tutor, right, there would be nothing

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Speaker 3: stopping Ai from regurgitating a fake version of the Tutor

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Speaker 3: Dixon Show and trying to make money off of.

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Speaker 1: That, or just taking the actual show and making it

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Speaker 1: their own.

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Speaker 2: I mean, and this.

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Speaker 1: Should resonate with people, and especially I'm glad you brought

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Speaker 1: a Katy Perry because I remember, I'm old enough to

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Speaker 1: remember a few years back when you could just download

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Speaker 1: music for free.

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Speaker 2: That was a glorious time, to be honest, but it

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Speaker 2: wasn't fair. It wasn't fair.

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Speaker 1: And on the music artist came out and said, you've

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Speaker 1: got to change this. It can't be that you can

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Speaker 1: just download our music for free. You have to change

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Speaker 1: it so people have to buy it, and so they

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Speaker 1: put in immediately, they put in safeguard and said, no,

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Speaker 1: you can't continue downloading music for free. You've got to

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Speaker 1: have a subscription, you've got to pay per song, whatever

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Speaker 1: it is. But suddenly we were paying for music again,

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Speaker 1: and that makes total sense, and nobody went, oh, this

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Speaker 1: is unfair because people realize, oh, yeah, this is their

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Speaker 1: work and we should pay for it. And Americans are

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Speaker 1: pretty understanding of that, the fact that you have. But see,

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Speaker 1: this is my problem is that the radical left has

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Speaker 1: torn down some of those moral barriers with people.

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Speaker 2: So now it's like, I'm owed this, I should be

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Speaker 2: able to do this.

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Speaker 1: You're going to have a problem though, when you start

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Speaker 1: to rip off the social media influencer stuff, and that

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Speaker 1: I think will be interesting because these people have built

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Speaker 1: small empires or livelihoods off of this, and this guy's like,

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Speaker 1: I should be able to take whatever I want.

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Speaker 2: It's so crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well you know what it is. It's socialism. Really

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Speaker 3: are communism, Yes, everything is communal property. Yes, there is

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Speaker 3: no such thing as private property. There is no such

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Speaker 3: thing as your own intellectual property, the actual product of

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Speaker 3: your own creativity and your own mind and your own work.

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Speaker 3: None of that would exist in Jack Dorsey's of the world.

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Speaker 3: And there are people. You have people because of this podcast.

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Speaker 3: People have jobs because of this podcast. Other others of

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Speaker 3: the Joe Rogan and whoever else are content creators, they

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Speaker 3: are also job creators, and they inject large amounts of

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Speaker 3: money into the American economy. And if you do away

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Speaker 3: with that and say no, everything that you create belongs

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Speaker 3: to all of us, and who's going to be out

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Speaker 3: there creating no one? No one? Right?

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Speaker 2: And you make a great point.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that people realize the amount of people

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Speaker 1: that get paid from something like this. I mean music

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Speaker 1: is a great example too, because you've got all the

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Speaker 1: producers film. You see that, you see the actors, and

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Speaker 1: you look at film and you go, oh, they're all rich.

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Speaker 1: But it's all the people around those that you can't

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Speaker 1: just give this stuff away for free because everybody has

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Speaker 1: to get paid.

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Speaker 2: You are right, they are job creators.

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Speaker 3: Have ever I mean people I like to sit through

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Speaker 3: and watch them, even though it doesn't really mean anything

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Speaker 3: to me. Watch the entire credits as a movie is ending.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's like a thousand people in yeah making

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Speaker 3: every movie.

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Speaker 2: Right, I know.

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Speaker 1: I always think, Okay, when the kids are still watching

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Speaker 1: something in s bedtime, I look at it. I'm like Okay,

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Speaker 1: it says there's thirty minutes left, so there's probably like

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Speaker 1: twenty two because.

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Speaker 3: The credits are going to take so long. Imagine everybody

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Speaker 3: likes to look for a key, grip and best boy

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Speaker 3: and gaffer. Right, yeah, those jobs will.

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Speaker 2: Be gone, Yeah, right exactly.

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Speaker 3: AI is just going to rip it off.

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Speaker 1: And that's and my friends in the film industry, I

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Speaker 1: see them posting all the time like we're very worried

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Speaker 1: about what this is going to mean. I mean, and

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Speaker 1: even the actors now their their voices are being ripped

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Speaker 1: off and they're being recreated to look like they're mad too.

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Speaker 2: You know, this stuff is not good.

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Speaker 1: I just want to end really quick on something else, though,

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Speaker 1: because as we're talking about the direction that leftists have

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Speaker 1: gone and even Democrats in general, now we see this

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Speaker 1: situation where I think there's been a lot of confusion

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Speaker 1: over the man, the marilynd Man who was deported to

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Speaker 1: the prison in El Salvador, and you have what's the

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Speaker 1: it's a senator, right, this senator.

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Speaker 3: Chris van Holland from Van.

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Speaker 1: Holland, who honestly went there to meet with him.

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Speaker 3: Now to be clear, Rita's with him. Shared had Margarita's

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Speaker 3: with the poor.

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Speaker 1: Fellow, the guy, a poor guy in jail going out

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Speaker 1: and having Margarita's. But honestly, this so there's questions because

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Speaker 1: I had even people last night, I'm at a school

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Speaker 1: event and people are like, oh, how could they have

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Speaker 1: deported that man? And people believe that he was an

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Speaker 1: American citizen. Not only was he not an American citizen,

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Speaker 1: but the Tennessee Star just came out with a story

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Speaker 1: saying that he was pulled over by Tennessee Highway patrol

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Speaker 1: years before this and had seven people in his car

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Speaker 1: that they suspected were being trafficked. And then when they

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Speaker 1: went to Biden's FBI, Biden's FBI said, let him go.

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Speaker 2: That was suspicious.

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Speaker 1: Now we're we're hearing that he was, you know, wrongfully deported.

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Speaker 1: And yet here's a guy who was potentially he's not

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Speaker 1: a US citizen, was potentially trafficking people. His wife had

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Speaker 1: a protection order against her him, and she had written

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Speaker 1: out the protection order why she needed protection, which was

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Speaker 1: a very devastating description of what her life was with

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Speaker 1: this man and how he had treated her. And yet

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Speaker 1: people are like, I mean, even the senators I called

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Speaker 1: his wife to let her know he's okay.

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Speaker 3: I'd be like, this is the same wife that filed

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Speaker 3: a protective order against him because of a domestic abuse right, great, yeah,

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Speaker 3: well he sends her his love. Yeah, we know how

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Speaker 3: he expresses his love because she had to go to

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Speaker 3: the cops and ask for a protective order. Right. And

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Speaker 3: you know, so you got Democrats. They have chosen this

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Speaker 3: guy as their darling. This fella, this nice fellaw who

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Speaker 3: was living in Maryland. He is not a Maryland man.

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Speaker 3: He's a resident of El Salvador who was illegally, illegally

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Speaker 3: living in Maryland. You have Chris van Holland and all

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Speaker 3: the Democrats who have embraced this guy. And let's be

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Speaker 3: clear about this. The only reason that they have latched

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Speaker 3: on to this guy as their new hero is because

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump is on the other side, right exactly. Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump's main superpower is breaking the brains of his political opponents.

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Speaker 3: So they have decided to wrap their arms complete. It's

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Speaker 3: Chris van Hahn and Tory Booker as Senator Chris Murphy,

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Speaker 3: it's Keen Jeffries in the House. Every Democrat and the

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Speaker 3: entirety of the mainstream media has fallen in love with

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Speaker 3: this guy, and they keep on calling him the marilynd

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Speaker 3: Man who was wrongfully deported. No, because and they know

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Speaker 3: that's false. They know it's false, and they keep saying it. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: he was not wrongfully deported. He'd had a deportation order

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Speaker 3: hanging over his head for years. He was illegally present

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Speaker 3: in this country. He entered illegally. He is not an

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Speaker 3: American citizen. He did not have a legal right to

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Speaker 3: be here. The Trump administration send him back to l Salvador,

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Speaker 3: where he is from, and it's because he was illegally present.

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Speaker 3: He is known to be an MS thirteen gang banger.

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Speaker 3: He was arrested one time, rounded up with a bunch

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Speaker 3: of other MS thirteen gang bangers, had drugs, he had

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Speaker 3: wads of cash, he was wearing MS thirteen. Other judges

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Speaker 3: and other courts have found him to be a legitimate

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Speaker 3: member of MS thirteen. He's a domestic abuser, he's a

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Speaker 3: suspected human trafficker, and he was illegally present. And Chris

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Speaker 3: Van Holland goes flying off to El Salvador to have

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Speaker 3: drinks with the guy as he gets the afternoon off

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Speaker 3: from prison. I've never seen a US senator make that

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Speaker 3: much effort to help an American citizen. This guy flies

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Speaker 3: to El Salvador to help him. This is an amazing

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Speaker 3: string simply because Donald Trump has broken their brains.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you I have a girlfriend right now

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Speaker 1: who she adopted a child from Sierra Leone, and there

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Speaker 1: has been and the adoption has all been worked out.

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Speaker 2: She's just supposed to go pick the child up.

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Speaker 1: And this is such a sweet story. The child has

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Speaker 1: a she's blind. My friend has a son here in

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Speaker 1: the United States with the same issue.

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Speaker 2: She was going to bring her back to the United States.

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Speaker 2: She can't.

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Speaker 1: There's an issue with the us NBC. She can't get

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Speaker 1: the paperwork through. She has been begging her congresswoman, who

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Speaker 1: is a Democrat, to help her. They just are sending

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Speaker 1: her letters like, yeah, the form's not right. Begging for help.

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Speaker 1: Can't get help for a child, an eleven year old

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Speaker 1: child that.

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Speaker 2: Needs the medical care that she can get in the

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Speaker 2: United States.

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Speaker 1: And she should be considered an American citizen because her

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Speaker 1: mother adopted her and her mother is here. But this

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Speaker 1: senator goes after a gang banger, a bad guy and

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Speaker 1: MS thirteen person member. The a gang member and this

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Speaker 1: is correct me if I'm wrong. He lives in the

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Speaker 1: same district that Rachel Morin was killed in, is that right?

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Speaker 3: Yes, Maryland, right, He's the US Senator from Maryland and

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Speaker 3: that's exactly where Rachel morn was killed also, and he

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Speaker 3: never did a blessed thing to react to that case.

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Speaker 3: So he lies all the way to El Salvador to

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Speaker 3: have Margarita's with and check on the well being of

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Speaker 3: this illegal alien gang banger who's been thwarted back to

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Speaker 3: his home country. It's staggering.

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Speaker 2: This.

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Speaker 3: This is again another one of these issues in politics.

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Speaker 3: You know, we talk about eighty twenty issues right where

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Speaker 3: eighty percent of the people are on one side and

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Speaker 3: agree and only twenty percent to see it the other way.

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Speaker 3: Democrats keep picking the twenty every single time, simply because

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Speaker 3: they hate Donald Trump so much so they can't even

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Speaker 3: see logic or reason. The pictures of Chris van Holland,

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Speaker 3: you know, having drinks with this Scott. He flew all

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Speaker 1: more after this. You know, we have a woman in

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Speaker 1: Michigan who wants to be the next US senator.

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Speaker 2: Her name is Mallorie mcmarrow.

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Speaker 1: And she posted about this story on Twitter, because that's

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Speaker 1: kind of her claim to fame, is to have a

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Speaker 1: big social media following as a crab. And she came

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Speaker 1: out and she was really mad about this guy, and

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Speaker 1: she says, so she decides to take this approach. They've

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Speaker 1: deported this man illegally. They should not have deported him.

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Speaker 1: They're defying the court. And Donald Trump has now said

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Speaker 1: that he is going to start sending American citizens that

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Speaker 1: disagree with him to foreign prisons.

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Speaker 3: Come on, look, about the best thing you could possibly

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Speaker 3: say about this case, about this L. Salvadoran guy, is

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Speaker 3: that maybe he shouldn't have been sent to L. Salvador specifically,

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Speaker 3: maybe he should have been deported to some other country.

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Speaker 3: The question of whether or not he could be deported

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Speaker 3: is that's not even arguable. He was an illegal alien.

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Speaker 3: He already had a deportation order a removal order. He

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Speaker 3: can be deported, he should be deported, And the White

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Speaker 3: House has said, look at it. Listen, if they somehow

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Speaker 3: even managed and succeed to somehow bring him back to

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Speaker 3: this country, we're just going to deport him again. So

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Speaker 3: the reason why they said, why one judge at one

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Speaker 3: time said you can't send him back to El Salvador,

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Speaker 3: is because he claimed that he was under threat from

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Speaker 3: some gang in l Salvador. That gang in El Salvador

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Speaker 3: has been wiped out of existence and doesn't exist there anymore.

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Speaker 3: That particular gang has a greater presence in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 3: California than it does in El Salvador.

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Speaker 1: To be fair, when you are a member of a gang,

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Speaker 1: you tend to have other gangs that hate you for sure.

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Speaker 3: Okay, fine, but he has chosen to be a member,

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Speaker 3: says his defense. Hey, I can't go back there because

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Speaker 3: I'm a gang member. These are the same people who

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Speaker 3: say you can't send him to El Salvador. Why is that, Well,

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Speaker 3: because he's part of a rival gang. Oh so he

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Speaker 3: is a gang member and he's not an innocent Maryland. See,

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Speaker 3: they just can't get a Well, we're back to the

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Speaker 3: logic of the left.

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Speaker 1: This is the logic that I use as a parent.

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Speaker 1: Your choices have consequences. So if you do this, this

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Speaker 1: could happen. If you join a gang, you will have

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Speaker 1: other gangs that hate you and want you dead.

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Speaker 2: That's actually just kind of a fact.

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Speaker 1: We all know about gangs, and I've never been in

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Speaker 1: a gang, but I still know that.

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Speaker 3: I love it that they have to use his criminality

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Speaker 3: as his difference.

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Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, he's a bad guy that is in danger

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Speaker 1: from other bad guys.

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Speaker 2: You know what, sometimes the world just works itself out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, my gosh, that's I mean, couldn't anybody

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Speaker 3: being just about to be sentenced to prison use the

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Speaker 3: same argument?

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Speaker 1: But also a wife beater? I mean, why are we

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Speaker 1: defending wife beaters?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: Could women have been crapped on anymore by the Democrats?

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Speaker 1: And that's not a nice thing to say, but it

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Speaker 1: is so true. I mean, we can't have our own

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Speaker 1: sports anymore, we can't win awards, we can't get jobs

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Speaker 1: because men who pretend to be women are better than us.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they have just so destroyed women.

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Speaker 1: And now you have a senator, a sitting US senator

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Speaker 1: who goes to another country to have margaritas with a

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Speaker 1: wife beater.

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Speaker 2: You cannot make it up.

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Speaker 3: No, And it just goes to show you how far

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Speaker 3: in the grip of the far extreme left to Democratic

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Speaker 3: Party is. You have absolute mainstream, supposedly mainstream leaders United

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Speaker 3: States Senators in the House of Representatives, Akeem Jeffries, the

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Speaker 3: Democratic Leader, the Minority leader in the House of Representatives.

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Speaker 3: All of them are on board with the righteous cause.

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Speaker 3: They believe of this MS thirteen gang banger, wife beater,

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Speaker 3: criminal illegal alien who has been righteously deported back to

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Speaker 3: l Salvador. They're all on his side. They keep embracing

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Speaker 3: the crazy issues because the radical left requires them to.

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Speaker 3: They didn't learn anything after Election Day twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: They lost because Donald Trump was on the right side

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Speaker 3: of the issues, talking about the insane that you just

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Speaker 3: said it. Men invading women's faces, trans women who are

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Speaker 3: really biological men in women's sports. Democrats insist, still insists

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Speaker 3: that it's okay for biological grown men to play organized

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Speaker 3: sports against women, against actual biological females. They think that's fine.

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Speaker 3: Immigration they are on This is like a ninety ten issue,

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Speaker 3: and they're on the side of the ten. They keep

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Speaker 3: choosing the wrong side over and over because the radical

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Speaker 3: left is in charge of that party. Listen, I mean, look,

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Speaker 3: a leftist just firebomb the governor's mansion in Pennsylvania, right,

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Speaker 3: that's Josh Shapiro. He's a Jewish governor of Pennsylvania. He

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Speaker 3: was targeted because of the crazy leftist's view of the

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Speaker 3: conflict in Gaza. He's tro hamas pro Palestinian. He firebombed

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Speaker 3: the guy's mansion in Pennsylvania, the governor's mansion because of

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Speaker 3: his position in supporting Israel in that conflict. Does anyone

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Speaker 3: recognize the irony here? Josh Shapiro was not picked to

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Speaker 3: be Kamala Harrison running mate because he's Jewish and the

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Speaker 3: radical left wouldn't stand for that. Right, I mean, the

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Speaker 3: party is broken, completely and utterly broken.

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Speaker 1: And that's when I always say, what is the final

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Speaker 1: nail in the coffin of this new Democrat Party?

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Speaker 2: And does that kill the party? Does a new party

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Speaker 2: for him?

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Speaker 1: Do they go back to the JFK party like what

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Speaker 1: happens to the Democrat Party? Because I believe that one

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Speaker 1: day people will look back at the Biden administration and

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Speaker 1: say they had a man cross dressing as a woman

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Speaker 1: saying that he could tell you about science and health.

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Speaker 2: How bizarre.

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Speaker 3: That's great. If JFK were alive today, they would call

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Speaker 3: him a right wing extremist.

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Speaker 1: I mean, remember when SNL used to have that skit,

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Speaker 1: it's Pat and you didn't know if Pat was a

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Speaker 1: woman or a man like you couldn't even do that

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Speaker 1: today they would freak out.

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Speaker 2: But that was funny. That was when Asinel was good.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm I just I love talking to you, I love

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Speaker 1: having you on.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we'll be able to talk about the demise of

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Speaker 1: the Democrat Party sooner than we think.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean, you got the media out there

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Speaker 3: are going to prop them up for as long as

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Speaker 3: they possibly can. But I'm hopeful that regular Americans who

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Speaker 3: do nothing every day but just go about their regular

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Speaker 3: lives and aren't, as you know, in tune to this

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Speaker 3: as we are every single day. It's sort of a

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Speaker 3: sickness that we have. I'm sorry to say. I know

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Speaker 3: we do pay attention to this so much, but regular

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Speaker 3: people who have real lives to go and pursue and

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Speaker 3: don't pay attention to them a new ship. I hope

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Speaker 3: that it's freaking through and they and then I got

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Speaker 3: to believe that some of them look at Democrats do

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Speaker 3: it and just say, what in the world is in

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Speaker 3: these people's heads?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you even had one of the big comedians,

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Speaker 1: who was it, someone Dylan that was on Fox last

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Speaker 1: night with Sean Handy.

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Speaker 2: Someone was and he was like, if you can't make

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Speaker 2: a joke anymore, where have we come to? And this

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Speaker 2: is not like a conservative.

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Speaker 1: This is someone who's just like, can we get back

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Speaker 1: to where we're kind of light hearted and the country

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Speaker 1: is fun again?

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Speaker 2: I mean they are such fun crushers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, Jerry Seinfeld won't perform on college campuses

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Speaker 3: because he says it's you can't make jokes, right.

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Speaker 2: No, everybody is so sensitive.

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Speaker 1: But those are the people who are the radical leftists,

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Speaker 1: and they're not getting married and they're not having relationships.

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Speaker 1: They have become so angry they can't even communicate with

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Speaker 1: their own friends.

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, that's it. I mean they have every year

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Speaker 3: of publications like Slenna, We're going along here, publications like

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Speaker 3: Slate and you know, Huffington Post and The Daily Beast.

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Speaker 3: They always publish these things around Christmas and Thanksgiving. How

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Speaker 3: to talk to your uncle and all that stuff. They

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Speaker 3: are like it's encouraging the division, and like how to

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Speaker 3: treat your families like they're all mentally handicapped.

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Speaker 2: Right exactly. Now, I know people that is for one.

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Speaker 3: So you know what, you know what one business that's

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Speaker 3: going under because the left doesn't buy mirrors anymore because

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Speaker 3: they certainly don't look in them.

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Speaker 1: That's that's absolutely true. Yeah, self reflection is no longer

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Speaker 1: a thing, not a thing. Well, Tim Murta, I always

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Speaker 1: enjoy having you on. Thank you for coming on.

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Speaker 3: That was fantastic, Tutor, Thank you very much, and congratulations

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Speaker 3: and on the success of this show and much more

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Speaker 3: of it.

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Speaker 2: So thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and thank you all for listening to

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Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon Podcast for this episode and others. You

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Speaker 2: I have a blessed day.