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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal.

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Speaker 2: Ill that for me.

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Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 1: for day Edith State is that?

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Speaker 3: Whoom whoom? And Dan and Tye welcome back to the

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Speaker 3: solid verbal Boys and girls. My name is ty hilden Brandt,

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Speaker 3: joining me as always my good friend over there in

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Speaker 3: New York City a gentleman by the name of Dan Rubinstein, Sir,

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Speaker 3: how are you?

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Speaker 4: I am terrific, Tye, I am particularly good. I miss

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Speaker 4: opening shows with lyrics, I really do. I miss having

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Speaker 4: to look up sexy words before we record, yep. But

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Speaker 4: otherwise it feels like a Wednesday show because I'm connecting

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Speaker 4: with you and saying things that are hopefully okay about

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Speaker 4: college football. So and I listened to Carly Ray jebson

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Speaker 4: right before we started recording, so just.

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Speaker 3: To get things going right, to get yourself handed up. Well,

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Speaker 3: what was your Carly Ray song of choice?

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Speaker 1: So it's the newer song.

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Speaker 4: It's on my my Spotify playlist called Dope Songs.

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Speaker 1: That I like.

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Speaker 4: Oh right, okay, it's the name of the song is

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Speaker 4: cut to the feeling and it's a jam.

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Speaker 3: I lost track of Carly Ray after calling the Navy.

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Speaker 4: Oh, you're doing yourself a disservice, sir. I'm gonna have

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Speaker 4: to have to fire up Emotion. That's the name of

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Speaker 4: the second album, Yeah Bangers.

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Speaker 1: Tie.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, thank you to everyone out there for

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Speaker 3: tuning in. It is no longer the college football regular season.

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Speaker 3: We've got a big Army Navy game this weekend. I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna go Army in that game. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: you've had a chance to look it through.

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Speaker 4: I have had a chance to watch both of these teams.

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Speaker 4: I have not compared them to each other because I

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Speaker 4: am bad at what I do. For you, basically, Tie,

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Speaker 4: but I think I'm gonna go Army as well, Double Army.

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Speaker 1: Go with Army.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go double Army. Derick. But we've got to

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Speaker 3: a fun little show for you planned here. We're going

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Speaker 3: to start our Bowl predictions, our Bowl previews next week.

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Speaker 3: In the meantime, you can go on out to our website,

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Speaker 3: to our Facebook page, to our Twitter account. We've posted

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Speaker 3: the link to our bull Confidence pool out on ESPN

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Speaker 3: dot com. We could talk more about how that works

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Speaker 3: best as you possibly can in that pool, but we'll

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Speaker 3: do that next week. In the meantime, you can't go

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Speaker 3: out there. All you gotta do is pick winners and

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Speaker 3: your rank games according to how confident you are in

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Speaker 3: that selection. The bullpool is now operational. Also of note, Danielle,

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Speaker 3: we have real solid of a branking.

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Speaker 1: Us, not the confable.

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Speaker 3: At long last, we have secured venue for our Atlanta

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Speaker 3: Stadium Fields, Megaplex. No, we are not doing it from

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Speaker 3: the home of the college Football Playoff national championship, but

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Speaker 3: we are nothing if not people with ears. We're men

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Speaker 3: This is obviously the most important factor. Entirely self serving on.

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Speaker 4: Playing ping pong, because we are selfish athletes, that's who

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Speaker 3: Here here's the way that this is going to work.

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Speaker 4: The good news type for those people is three of

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Speaker 4: We don't know what Arizona State's going to look like.

436
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 4: Aside from the fact that pretty much the whole staff

437
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 4: other than Todd Graham is back. The thing I thought

438
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 4: you were going to mention was somebody from I believe

439
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 4: it was Devil'sdigest dot Com, a huge Arizona State site

440
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 4: as far as I know, introduced themselves, I'm so and

441
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 4: so from Devil Devil's Digest dot Com and HERM edwards

442
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 4: response was kind of confusion that the name of the

443
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 4: site had Devil in it, almost as if because HERM

444
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 4: Edwards then said, now listen, I'm a Catholic, so that

445
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 4: Devil thing like stirs me the wrong way, almost as

446
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 4: if on two different fronts, the first front being does HERM.

447
00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 4: Edwards connect the fact that Devil and son Devil are

448
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 4: a thing at a state.

449
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: And two.

450
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 4: Is he quickly making peace with the fact that there

451
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 4: is a satanic media outlet At his opening press conference.

452
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 4: That's it was with fireworks going on in my head.

453
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 4: So my overall conclusion, TI, this is all to say,

454
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 4: I'd forget who asked this question. Sam, you said, Yeah,

455
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 4: I don't know if HERM. Edwards in the Arizona State

456
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 4: Sun Devils are gonna be good.

457
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: Over these times.

458
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 3: Scott, it's Scott, by the way, s Gott excuse me, sorry, Scott.

459
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 4: I don't know if they're gonna be good. I don't

460
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 4: know if they're gonna be exciting. I don't know if

461
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 4: coaches are gonna be great. I don't know whatever. I

462
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 4: know it's gonna get real weird.

463
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 3: This is how I feel about the Fast and Furious movies,

464
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 3: Like you can't tell if they're in on the joker,

465
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 3: if they're taking it seriously right, And I enjoy the movies,

466
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 3: so I hope I enjoy this too. But there's a

467
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 3: joke in here. Uh pretty much right from the jump.

468
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 3: That's gonna be a lot of fun to cover moving forward.

469
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 4: Right, it seems like it's not. It's not terribly far

470
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 4: off from when Monday Night Football was like Dennis Miller

471
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 4: Rush Limbaugh, Yeah, no, nope, okay, nope, we see yep,

472
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 4: we now see that.

473
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 3: Yep, uh huh unbelieving. All right, question, Thank you, Scott.

474
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: Let's go.

475
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 3: Where are we going next?

476
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 4: Uh, let's go, Because I also asked for holiday questions.

477
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 4: We'll get to a couple of those. Ryan wants to know.

478
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 4: Yay rn a Lane Kiffin at Oregon. I think it

479
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 4: could be an exciting pair. Flashy braining and an offensive

480
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 4: minded coach with big recruiting connections. I'm gonna go ahead

481
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 4: and say no. I'm gonna say no.

482
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say if you're Oregon, you had Chip Kelly

483
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 3: that sort of had a rocky end, although the highs

484
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 3: were pretty high. Yeah, the Mark Helfridge promotion from within

485
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 3: did not go well. They moved on to Willie Taggert,

486
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 3: the young, up and coming coach who everyone was excited

487
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 3: about and the only risk that came into play there

488
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 3: was potentially Florida State opening. That might have been the

489
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 3: only job he would leave Oregon for, and he did.

490
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

491
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Speaker 3: I don't think you want to go in the direction

492
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Speaker 3: of someone that you think could leave for a different job.

493
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 3: So I would err on the side of a smaller

494
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 3: named guy who you know is solid, has it together,

495
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 3: and even if he's not the most exciting name. You know,

496
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 3: he's going to be content to stay for a while.

497
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 1: See.

498
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 4: I think Lane would probably stay somewhere big for a while.

499
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 4: He's already flamed out at USC, which is the only

500
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 4: job I think what that would qualify as this quote

501
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 4: dream job. The problem and I think the conflict here

502
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 4: is with the way Willy started with some off the

503
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 4: field or I guess literally on the field stuff with

504
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 4: the rahabdomialysis and you know, sort of bailing after eleven

505
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 4: months misleading people about everything. I think they would want

506
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,719
Speaker 4: to not go with somebody that would have the potential

507
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 4: for conflict. That to me is the risk with Lane

508
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 4: Kiff and not necessarily the bolting, but the volatility. And

509
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 4: I think they have better options in terms of somebody

510
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 4: that can grow and succeed without presenting that kind of risk.

511
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: Okay, where are we going next next? Craig wants to know.

512
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 4: Does expanding the playoff to eight teams just something that's

513
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 4: discussed every day make it more or less likely that

514
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 4: quote a second tier team has a shot at winning

515
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 4: at all. Dan recently talked about how the Ducks depth

516
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 4: wasn't enough in twenty fourteen, So that's the Mariota, Ohio

517
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 4: state team. If a team needs to win three games,

518
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 4: do those teams have the depth to do it?

519
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 3: Right?

520
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: Yeah?

521
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 3: Right, well, I mean they can. It's kind of a

522
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 3: two part question. I think expanding to eight is the

523
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 3: only way one of those quote unquote second tier teams

524
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 3: has any shot of winning it. Because we've said this before. Sorry, UCF, Sorry,

525
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 3: an undefeated Boise sorry, you know, any of those schools

526
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 3: that fall into that category, USF, you're not going to

527
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 3: get into a four team playoff. The only hope you

528
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 3: have is for them to expand this thing to eight

529
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 3: or sixteen. First off, that's the only way you're getting

530
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 3: in at all. Do they have the depth? I don't know.

531
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,719
Speaker 3: I don't know if they have the defense is what

532
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 3: I worry about. Defense more than depth is the question

533
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 3: that I have. Can you run with some of the

534
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 3: big dogs like Oklahoma, like Clemson that you know could

535
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 3: put points on the board. I don't know how a

536
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,479
Speaker 3: team like a UCF would do in that type of setting.

537
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 4: Totally fair and you see if that I think that

538
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 4: is a fair question. But recently we've seen you mentioned Oklahoma.

539
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 4: They did lose to Houston last year. No, we're right,

540
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 4: with a very good defense. Good but this is again,

541
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 4: this would at this point be a defense that's been

542
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 4: through twelve thirteen games in the American and in any conference.

543
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 4: It's just tough to get through unscathed.

544
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:51,719
Speaker 1: You know.

545
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 4: Having the depth matters. Boise State had a very very

546
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 4: good defense under Chris Peterson for a lot of years,

547
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 4: you know, beating you know, Virginia and Oregon and whoever else, Georgia,

548
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 4: I you know, San Diego State has that defense. But

549
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 4: those are defenses at full health, right, And I think

550
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 4: you are totally correct and saying yes, when you get

551
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 4: to that point where you're playing, you have to play

552
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 4: three games, and so does Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma,

553
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 4: you know, whoever, Florida, Florida State. Then you're getting to

554
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 4: the point where you have one injured receiver and an

555
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 4: injured defensive tackle and an injured outside linebacker. The gap

556
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 4: between your ones and your twos and threes is a

557
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 4: much bigger chasm than it is for those types of schools.

558
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: Alabama, Ohio State are.

559
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 3: So sort of a hybrid answer of defense and depth.

560
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 4: Yes, I think, but I think yes, that is the

561
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 4: way that a seventh best team in the country, like

562
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 4: a seventh best TCU, Oregon, Michigan State, whatever, where they

563
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 4: don't necessarily have the depth, but if they have injury luck,

564
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 4: they can absolutely you know, with a good quarterback with

565
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 4: you know, everything in place, that can absolutely win a

566
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 4: national championship without comparable depth. Okay, next question, if you

567
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 4: had to only choose one bowl game, so ty, get

568
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 4: all the bowl games. Get that bowl schedule in front

569
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 4: of you right now.

570
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

571
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 4: Putting you on the spot. Yeah, if you did, what

572
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,719
Speaker 4: what bowl game are you just most looking forward to

573
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 4: from an entertainment perspective? So that's that's from Cody. Okay,

574
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 4: I did have a chance bowl game to watch, I'll

575
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 4: say no on the what is Notre Dame in the

576
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 4: Citrus Bowl?

577
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't watch the Citrus Bowl. No, Notre analysts, you don't.

578
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 3: Don't watch that game? Right, And I'm gonna let's say,

579
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 3: for the purposes of this argument, let's throw out the

580
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 3: two playoff games. So yeah, no, no to Oklahoma Georgia.

581
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 3: No to Clemson Alabama. Both of those are they should

582
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 3: be pretty tight games. I got a couple I actually

583
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 3: went through and looked at it. I must admit there

584
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 3: weren't as many as I'd hoped games that I looked

585
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 3: at and I said, oh, that's going to be I'm

586
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 3: really looking forward to that game. But there are a

587
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 3: couple of one that I think jumps off the page.

588
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 3: Has to be Ohio State and USC and the cost

589
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,479
Speaker 3: certainly that needs to be pretty much everyone's answer if

590
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 3: we're going to eliminate the two playoff games right out

591
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 3: of the shoot. I'm excited, maybe more personally than a

592
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 3: lot of people would be from the outside in about

593
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 3: Penn State Washington because I think it's two interesting and

594
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 3: contrasting styles. Plus Penn State has the added uncertainty of

595
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 3: not only losing Joe moorehead, but by that point in

596
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 3: time December thirtieth, I guess potentially losing Brent Priye to

597
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 3: a head coaching position he's rumored to be interested in.

598
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 3: So that to me is an interesting game, maybe because

599
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 3: of the styles more so than anything else. And I'm

600
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 3: looking forward. I always look forward. I don't want to

601
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: crap too much on the non Power five schools, but

602
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 3: it'll be interesting to see how a team like a

603
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 3: UCF goes up against an Auburn school. Auburn might not

604
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 3: have a whole lot to play for in that football game,

605
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 3: and that's always the risk in a game like the

606
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 3: Peach Bowl this year between an Auburn school and a

607
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 3: group of five school like UCF. UCF is clearly gonna

608
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 3: be treating that game as if it's a national championship.

609
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 3: I'm just curious to see how they match up against

610
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 3: a good Auburn school that's got a ton on defense.

611
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's no win for Auburn. You beat UCF

612
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 4: and you're like, yeah, who cares you lose to UCF? Like, what,

613
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 4: what the hell did you do?

614
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: Auburn?

615
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

616
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 4: Right, My answer is beyond that one, i'd be on

617
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 4: those three or I guess so I am. Let's go

618
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 4: to Birmingham, Tie, I don't say that often. Okay, you

619
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 4: have never been to Birmingham, and I would love to

620
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 4: go USF Texas Tech. Sure, that's points, tye. You don't

621
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 4: think that game is ending forty five forty two?

622
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 3: That'd be a fun game.

623
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will absolutely watch that game. Kansas State UCLA

624
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 4: and I think Kansas State just lost their offensive coordinator.

625
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 4: He might be the new coach at U tip Man.

626
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 4: I hope I'm right about that. Dana Demil whatever. But

627
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 4: beyond that one kind of weird that you get, like

628
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 4: the weird Jim Mora giving away the Alamobile almost to

629
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 4: Kansas State and then he's fired and they get Kansas

630
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 4: State again. I want to say, that's the Cactus Bowl.

631
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 4: And then I mean, that's just sort of a sub

632
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 4: whatever subtopic. But Perdue Arizona, Jeff Brom, Khalil Tate, I

633
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 4: was gonna I was gonna throw that one out there.

634
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 4: That's the and I'm gonna go Purdue in that game.

635
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 4: By the way, I think I might as well secretly

636
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 4: pretty decent defense. I will give credit to Jason Kirk

637
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 4: on the Shutdown full cast and we have to mention

638
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 4: them by the end of the show.

639
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: Again, but.

640
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 4: That's like the hipster college football fan Bowl. Yeah, like, oh,

641
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 4: you don't watch Arizona. You don't stay up late to

642
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 4: watch Khalil Tate. Interesting because he's doing some pretty magical

643
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 4: things with offense. And then Perdue is like, oh, Jeff Brom,

644
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 4: you know, he's a he's a pretty creative guy.

645
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: And a lot of people don't know about their defense.

646
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 4: So so it's a college football game in the Foster

647
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 4: Farms Bowl, which I'm a little bit bummed about because

648
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna be in California around then, but

649
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 4: I won't be able to make that.

650
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 3: Some very weird bowl sponsors this year, which we don't

651
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Speaker 3: have time to get into. Yeah now, but uh, you know,

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Speaker 3: suffice to say that the Chera Bundy Tart Cherry Boca

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Speaker 3: Ratone Bowl is not only a mouthful but a very

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Speaker 3: weird sponsor.

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Speaker 4: Can we talk about the only sponsor that matters, though ty,

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Speaker 4: because there is there is we have breaking news that

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Speaker 4: is intimately associated with our show.

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Speaker 3: We do have breaking news. I'm gonna play it again.

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Speaker 2: Boot boot boot boot Boom, Ryan Nanny terrifically, dear friend

660
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Speaker 2: of the solid verb absolutely is officially through a Twitter

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Speaker 2: campaign through elbow grease through I assume a lot of

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Speaker 2: more grease is go going to become the outback bull

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Speaker 2: bloomin onion mask.

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Speaker 3: Un freaking believable.

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Speaker 4: It is the most important story of the college football season.

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Speaker 4: That he turned a joke on his college football show. Well,

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Speaker 4: I shouldn't say a joke. He was serious about it

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Speaker 4: from the onset, but a thought on that show into reality.

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Speaker 4: He got ten thousand retweets in a matter of an

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Speaker 4: afternoon as Outback asked him to ask for and is

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Speaker 4: going to be dressed up in the costume of a

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Speaker 4: Bloomin Onion on the sideline of the Outback Bowl, a

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Speaker 4: game featuring not just Jim Harbaugh Michigan, but will Must

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Speaker 4: champion South Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Oh, the beauty, the beauty.

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Speaker 3: I wrote an article back in the day about mascots

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Speaker 3: and sports, and I gotta tell you, I was surprised

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Speaker 3: at the response that I got from people who are

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Speaker 3: actually in those masks outfits. There is a really, really

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Speaker 3: deep rooted, passionate fraternity of mascots out there, people who

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Speaker 3: take it very seriously, who talk about the injuries that

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Speaker 3: they sustain while they're in the costume. It is not

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Speaker 3: an easy job for people to do, so I hope

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Speaker 3: Ryan is up for the challenge.

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Speaker 4: Ryan was born to play this role. Ryan is passionate

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Speaker 4: about appetizers. He is from Tampa, which I think is

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Speaker 4: the birthplace of not just the Outback Bowl, but Outback

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Speaker 4: Steakhouse in general.

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Speaker 3: Outback Steakhouse.

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Speaker 4: Yes, there is a certain amount of enthusiasm to Ryan

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Speaker 4: that I think will capture the essence of the Bloomin

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Speaker 4: Onion itself.

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Speaker 3: No rules just right, Ryan, Nanny, go take a drink

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Speaker 4: You want to ask a holiday question? You want to

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Speaker 4: save holiday questions for another show.

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Speaker 1: What do you want to do?

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Speaker 3: Let's do Let's do one more football and then rifle

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Speaker 3: for a couple holiday ones.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, let's go to a football question. I like

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Speaker 4: this one's in general, but it applies to a lot

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Speaker 4: of open jobs, and there's still a few Hi High Tennessee,

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Speaker 4: Hi Tennessee. You're still at the time of this recording.

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Speaker 4: Why it open? So this comes to us from barn Tastic, Barntastic, Barntastic.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 4: One thing that you often hear in coaching contract discussions quote,

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Speaker 4: he didn't just ask for money, but will upgrade the facilities.

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Speaker 4: Why is the coach responsible using his contract leverage? Why

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Speaker 4: is the Why is the coach responsible to upgrade facilities?

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Speaker 4: Shouldn't that be on an athletic department or goal? Do

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Speaker 4: NCAA sports do this? So I think there's some confusion here, sure, yep.

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Speaker 4: So basically, when a coach has not asked himself to

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Speaker 4: upgrade facilities, but a coach in negotiating a contract says,

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Speaker 4: I would like to come to your school, but maybe

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Speaker 4: facilities are not on the level of top schools that

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Speaker 4: you're recruiting against or competing against in your division or conference, whatever,

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Speaker 4: and I'd like a promise that you are going to

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Speaker 4: invest money for an indoor practice facility or a new

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Speaker 4: weight room, a new locker room, you know, a new lounge,

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Speaker 4: new whatever, new offices for the coaches. Because everything is recruiting.

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Speaker 3: Everything is recruiting, so let me let me pause you

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Speaker 3: there for a second. And when we talk about facilities

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Speaker 3: barn tastic. Yes, we're not talking about the why where

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Speaker 3: you play basketball. We're not even talking about just an

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Speaker 3: indoor practice field where people can go and do their thing.

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Speaker 3: The way that they build out these facilities nowadays would

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Speaker 3: literally blow your mind if you had a chance to

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Speaker 3: walk through that.

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Speaker 1: Literally, we can't stress that enough.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying literally, Yeah, it's quite blow out your cerebral cortex. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's mind blowing the extent to which schools go all

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Speaker 3: out to try and attract recruits, And so that's why

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Speaker 3: it's important look around. I mean, I've had the pleasure

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Speaker 3: of walking through a couple of them, Nebraska, Georgia, a

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Speaker 3: couple other ones. The cool factor of going through some

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Speaker 3: of these facilities is really something that they're using to

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Speaker 3: try and net some of these big recruits. So it's important.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think the reason why it's becoming leverage

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Speaker 4: in contract negotiations are a negotiation point is because you

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Speaker 4: can't just offer the most money to the coach you

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Speaker 4: think is best. Realistically, you got to get somebody who

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Speaker 4: will say yes, somebody who will fit in it your program.

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Speaker 4: And somebody who has a network of assistance, somebody who

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Speaker 4: can recruit, somebody who understands the day to day of

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Speaker 4: your school. So more and more we're seeing and we've

801
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Speaker 4: talked about this a few times, you know, Andy Staples

802
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Speaker 4: with somebody who brought it up on the show. But

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Speaker 4: we're seeing coaches maybe take less upfront in return for

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Speaker 4: a bigger pool for their assistance. You know, you're only

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Speaker 4: as good as your assistants are recruiting and managing the

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Speaker 4: day to day and also, yes, the promise of facilities,

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Speaker 4: because you want to be able to attract the highest

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Speaker 4: quality football players. You want your program to present itself

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Speaker 4: as being the largest time it can. You are the

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Speaker 4: big time program in your area, and when recruits visit,

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Speaker 4: you want to project that. So it doesn't matter how

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Speaker 4: much money you the head coach make, because if you win,

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Speaker 4: you will keep getting raises, you will keep getting offers

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Speaker 4: from elsewhere that will up your own value. It is

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Speaker 4: all about it. It's the fringe stuff that I think

816
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 4: makes it because then it's it's a long term investment.

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Speaker 1: Basically agreed.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's let's do some holiday ones here.

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Speaker 1: Let's get it.

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Speaker 3: This is a very relevant question from Kevin How long

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Speaker 3: do I have to stay at my company's holiday party?

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Speaker 1: Love this question. Do you have a holiday party?

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Speaker 3: Not so much in the conventional like, let's all go

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Speaker 3: out to a bar and drink right kind of a thing.

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00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 3: Usually it's a time during the workday where everyone gets together.

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Speaker 1: Seven minutes in heaven.

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Speaker 3: No, sometimes people will bring in shreets and you know,

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Speaker 3: we'll have like a ten dollars gift exchange or something

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Speaker 3: like that. Right, I don't typically have the big blowout

830
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Speaker 3: holiday parties that you know, you might you might think of,

831
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Speaker 3: But it's a good question. I suspect you guys have

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Speaker 3: a bigger holiday party than I.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we do have like a party where we all

834
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Speaker 4: go out somewhere to a venue and have a couple

835
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Speaker 4: drinks and enjoy ourselves.

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Speaker 3: How long do you have to stay at that company

837
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Speaker 3: holiday party?

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Speaker 1: I think you.

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Speaker 3: Have to stay for first off, At a lot of

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00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 3: those holiday parties, there's some sort of presentation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, speech a presentation, Yeah.

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00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 3: Someone in charge of the company, one of the higher ups,

843
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 3: one of the suits, gets up there and gives a speech.

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Speaker 3: You know, BID's fond to do to the calendar year?

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Speaker 3: You need to at a minimum stay for that, Maybe

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Speaker 3: have a drink, maybe have some of the snacks. Stay

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Speaker 3: at least long enough until you get through the presentation

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Speaker 3: portion of the party and get into that phase where

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Speaker 3: everyone's just drinking their face off. Once you get to

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Speaker 3: that stage, then I think you're free to go.

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Speaker 4: Stay for the speech, say hi to a couple people,

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00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 4: maybe tell you know people that you're feeling a little

853
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 4: under the weather, and you might duck out at a

854
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 4: certain point, which also tie not to go off on

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00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 4: a tangent, but I think it's related. What did you

856
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 4: think of the idea that I had in my own

857
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 4: wedding speech about leaving parties?

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00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 3: In your own wedding speech?

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00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: Do you remember my speech?

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Speaker 3: You don't, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: So in my.

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Speaker 4: Wedding speech, I basically gave permission for everybody at the

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Speaker 4: wedding to just leave when they wanted to leave, right,

864
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Speaker 4: because it is my practice when I go to weddings,

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Speaker 4: and you know, stuff like weddings whatever, those type of parties,

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Speaker 4: I will go up to the bride and groom or

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Speaker 4: the parents of the bride and groom, whatever, and I

868
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 4: will say, my god, what a wedding. This is incredible

869
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 4: I'm so happy I'm here. This is just terrific. But

870
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 4: I'll also throw in and listen. At a certain point,

871
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 4: I'm going to take off. Don't be insulted. You know,

872
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna leave. But I just wanted you to

873
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 4: know that I don't need to come back and say

874
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 4: goodbye to you. I just want to tell you what

875
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 4: a great time I'm having and I can't wait to

876
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 4: party the rest of the night. But I am going

877
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 4: to leave and not say goodbye. And everybody's cool with

878
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 4: that time, Yeah, I.

879
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 3: Don't think anybody would be uncol with it. I don't

880
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 3: know if if.

881
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 4: People feel the need, people feel the need to wait

882
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 4: in line to say goodbye.

883
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 3: I admire the proactivity of the plan to go up

884
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 3: in advance and say, you know, I'm gonna cut out

885
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 3: at some point the pre goodbye goodbye. I think it's

886
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 3: a good plan. I think also, after having been part

887
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 3: of a wedding, my own wedding, you would have loved

888
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 3: that well, not only would I have loved it. But

889
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 3: don't take this the wrong way. I probably wouldn't have

890
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 3: known when you left if you left at all, so

891
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: exactly so, I think I think it's a good, safe move.

892
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 3: I'm okay.

893
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: There are people though, and I think it's more the

894
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: parent thing.

895
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 3: It's definitely more of a parent thing.

896
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: Oh they didn't say goodbye. I would have liked to

897
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: see them one more.

898
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, that is that is a complete Sometimes

899
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 4: you're waiting ten fifteen minutes to say good.

900
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 3: I don't think it's ever held against you, though. If

901
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 3: you don't go back and say goodbye to people.

902
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, ty, wait until you get older and

903
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 4: hang out around your peers when you're all sixty three.

904
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 4: People hold stuff against each other for weird ass stuff.

905
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 4: So the pre goodbye goodbye. I'm telling you some people,

906
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 4: You and I are doing this show because we are.

907
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 4: We are pretty sympatico with how we feel about this.

908
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 3: This is quite true. Let's go, let's get a couple

909
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 3: more in here. Next, this one comes to us from Dan,

910
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 3: the other Dan. Yes, is it okay to buy a

911
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,760
Speaker 3: gift for your brother's dog as you are present to him.

912
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 3: I think this is a great question because it can

913
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 3: be applied to Oh my god, that's it could be

914
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 3: applied to children.

915
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: I would say. I think that's totally fair.

916
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 3: I love this idea. I love that see the problem

917
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 3: that you have with people that you're related to, and

918
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 3: I saw we got a question about who's the hardest

919
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 3: person to shop for in the family. Once, once you

920
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 3: get to a certain age, it's very difficult to find

921
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 3: creative gift ideas. Okay, sure, this is something that is

922
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 3: genuinely creative. We're gonna get We're gonna get a gift

923
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 3: for the pooch. Because if you do that, not only

924
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 3: will you never get pushback from the dog. The dog

925
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,919
Speaker 3: right may not even know it's his or her gift,

926
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 3: but it also shows I think an advanced level of understanding.

927
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 3: No one's ever gonna be upset about getting a gift

928
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 3: for the dog. People love their dogs.

929
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: Did you grow up with a pet?

930
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 3: I know you'll be shocked to hear this. I'm allergic

931
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 3: to most pets. Oh okay, I would love to have

932
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 3: you love to have a puppy? Does does Uncle Joe

933
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 3: have a pet? Nobody in my family is a pet.

934
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 1: Okay.

935
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 4: So if you have a friend saying your friend is

936
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 4: a Penn State fan, and you got your friend's you know, beagle,

937
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 4: Bassett hound whatever, like one of those long dog sweaters,

938
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 4: and it's a Penn state.

939
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 3: They love it absolutely, will go crazy the greatest. Maybe

940
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 3: we should make great idea dog merchandise. Here on the

941
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 3: solid verbal.

942
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 4: It's not a bad idea, it's not it's not the

943
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 4: worst idea.

944
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: Here we go.

945
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 4: This comes to us from Abbott Skelding. I hope that's

946
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 4: a real name. Yeah, a longtime listener emailer. And it's

947
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 4: to the point where I'm almost positive this person is

948
00:49:58,719 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 4: a Michigan fan.

949
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: Right, is that your gut?

950
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 4: That's my gut. Yeah, that's your gut. Has nothing to

951
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 4: do with the question. I have to make a dessert

952
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 4: for a work Christmas party pot luck. Any idea come

953
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 4: to the right place?

954
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 3: Yeah?

955
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: Do you do? You ever have to do this?

956
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 4: We have like a cookie day at work where everybody

957
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 4: makes cookies and it's wonderful.

958
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you participate. I yeah, hot luck.

959
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 2: I do.

960
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 3: I am a big fan if you're bringing a dessert.

961
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,959
Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of the Kiffles. What is Kiffles again?

962
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 3: Kiffles are the are the cookies that they have like

963
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 3: the the jam or the fruity feeling on the inside

964
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 3: and then they're kind of wrapped up over. It's like

965
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 3: a Polish cookie.

966
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna google this right now. I think

967
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 4: I have an idea of what you're talking about. K

968
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 4: I F F E L E s.

969
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 3: You've had them before, I'm sure. Oh, I see what

970
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 3: you're looking at. Yeah, yeah, that's my personal favorite. Oh

971
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 3: those are pretty good.

972
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 4: Actually, like it's it's almost like the Jewish ruggala, but

973
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 4: instead of like a chocolate or nutty feeling, it's like

974
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 4: the fruit jam.

975
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

976
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 3: The other thing that you could make if you go

977
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 3: online and look up recipes for they're called crinkles.

978
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: Okay.

979
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 3: It's just sort of like a chocolate cookie with some

980
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 3: powdered sugar on the top. My aunt makes a phenomenal

981
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 3: crinkle and I've never been able to successfully make one

982
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 3: on my own. I've never actually tried.

983
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: But your suggestions are adorable. Kiffles and crinkles.

984
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, Hey, Christmas is all about holiday spirit,

985
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 3: all about being cheerful.

986
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: I know these cookies.

987
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 4: These are things that bring cheer That's what I would Interestingly,

988
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 4: you have two powdered sugar selections. Well, I'm not big

989
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 4: on powdered sugar. That's okay, I uh. Also, crinkles is

990
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 4: the name of the dog that you got the Penn

991
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 4: State sweater for. I. So my two suggestions are cookie wise,

992
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 4: I make lemon ricotta cookies.

993
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: That are very good. They're great.

994
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 3: Those are good.

995
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 4: And that it's a little much because you're also you're

996
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 4: mixing dough and you're mixing you know, it's it takes

997
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 4: a lot, and you got to do a bunch of

998
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 4: batches and stuff if you have a big office. The

999
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 4: other suggestion, which is way way easier. Well it's a

1000
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 4: little heavier, but it's easier, is a blueberry crumble, which

1001
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 4: is basically making a blueberry pie, but instead of making

1002
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 4: pie crust, you just make a crumble with some butter

1003
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 4: and sugar and oats, and then I use the actual

1004
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 4: lemon glaze that I put on top of the lemon

1005
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 4: rocotta cookies on top of the crumble. It's like an

1006
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 4: oatmeal crumble. I double up the crumble because everybody loves

1007
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 4: double crumble time. Everybody loves that. So Abbott, if either

1008
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 4: one of these things interest you, the lemon rocotta cookies

1009
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 4: or the blueberry crumble, hit me, I will give you

1010
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 4: the recipe.

1011
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 1: Happily. That's what I make.

1012
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 4: All right, Um're go next here? Yeah, are you a

1013
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 4: big knog guy? Ty eggnog?

1014
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 3: You know, I don't think I've ever had eggnog.

1015
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:46,479
Speaker 1: I've never had it either.

1016
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 4: I'm a little unclear as to what's in it eggnog.

1017
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 4: As far as I understand is there can be eggs.

1018
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 4: I don't think it's always the case. Yeah, I'm looking

1019
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 4: at it here. Okay, you can do it with egg whites.

1020
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, thickens it.

1021
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't think that there was egg in it.

1022
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 3: But according to Alton Brown, four egg yolts, yolkes, a

1023
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 3: third cup sugar, a pint of whole milk, a cup

1024
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 3: of heavy cream, three ounces bourbon, teaspoon of freshly grated nutmeg,

1025
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 3: and four egg whites.

1026
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: Okay, I would try that.

1027
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 4: I'm not big on dairy drinks, but as we know,

1028
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 4: I call milk baby cowjuice something that person.

1029
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: But I would try it.

1030
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 3: I just have never I don't think of No, I've

1031
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 3: never had it. No.

1032
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, is Dan going to the Las Vegas Bowl? Dan

1033
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 4: is not going to Las Vegas Bowl. Dan will be

1034
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 4: in LA that weekend and not in Vegas. But that's okay,

1035
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 4: appropriate bowl game food tie food heavy show. It was

1036
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 4: going to be anyway, but this brings in I think

1037
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 4: this is a good way to bring everything together bowl food.

1038
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 4: So what would you make on New Year's You're settling

1039
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 4: in for the day.

1040
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 3: Right right, right, Well, the traditional New Year's feast is

1041
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 3: pork and sauer kraut. It's good luck?

1042
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:55,720
Speaker 1: Is that true?

1043
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 3: It is?

1044
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: Okay? Is that like a Dutch or a German thing?

1045
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 3: I think it's a many okay, cultural thing. In particular,

1046
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 3: it's a mama h Italian tradition. So typically that's been

1047
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 3: that's been the feast. When you're mixing in bowl goings on,

1048
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 3: I think it tends to pull you a little bit

1049
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 3: more in the direction of finger foods of tailgating foods.

1050
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 3: So I'm trying to think, is there like a pulled

1051
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 3: pork option that you could kind of bring everything together

1052
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 3: on New York's?

1053
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, you could make like a pulled pork rubin, right,

1054
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 4: if it's pork and sauerkraut.

1055
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 3: Something like that, I think would adhere to the proper

1056
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 3: traditions and give you that bowl football food kind of flavor.

1057
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 4: I will I repeat this every year because it's the

1058
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 4: greatest thing I've ever had on New Year's and we've

1059
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 4: made it Subsequently, Ryan has a recipe. Ryan Nanny has

1060
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 4: a recipe that he poured it over from another recipe

1061
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 4: of the Dicks to talk about the dip. The dip,

1062
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 4: the dip so good, the New Year's dip.

1063
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so good. You've had it. It is.

1064
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 4: It's something that you can graze all day. It'll fill

1065
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 4: you up in about fourteen seconds, so you can go

1066
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 4: back and forth. It's good hot, it's good room temperature,

1067
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 4: it's good cold. It's easily heated up. You just there's

1068
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 4: a layer of cheese on top, so it heats real quick.

1069
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 4: That's I think the move.

1070
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: That is.

1071
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 4: God, it's the best high It really is the best.

1072
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get the recipe. You can tweet us for

1073
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 4: the recipe. It's like a It's chariso, black beans, a

1074
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:38,439
Speaker 4: little bit of heavy cream, cheese, collared greens, garlic, it's

1075
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 4: everything you want. It is really, really spectacular.

1076
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 3: We'll make sure that we get that recipe out there.

1077
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was Sarah Shregg's original recipe. That's whose it was.

1078
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 3: Here's the final note before we say goodbye for the evening.

1079
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 3: As we said at the top of the show, we

1080
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 3: do have a live show coming up. If you want

1081
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 3: to get first DIBs on those tickets, you gotta go

1082
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 3: out out and sign up for our newsletter. Go to

1083
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,640
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Speaker 3: check your email repeatedly. You will get first DIBs on

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Speaker 3: those tickets before we open up to the general public

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Speaker 3: a little bit later on in the day. Our final

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Speaker 3: question here comes from Catherine, who says, what is your

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Speaker 3: favorite beer while playing ping pong? Perhaps we need to

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Speaker 3: set a limit on this so I don't beat you

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Speaker 3: by twenty one, because typically two beer dan or even

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Speaker 3: one beer dan in some sort of game requiring coordination

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Speaker 3: could be a bit of a that could be a

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Speaker 3: bit of a hazard for you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a sweet spot. I don't know what yours is.

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Speaker 4: I will probably have a beer before and during, and

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Speaker 4: that's combination, that's not one before and one during the

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Speaker 4: actual live show. I don't want to get dehydrated. Tie,

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Speaker 4: you know sure, that's me off my game. And you

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Speaker 4: will have the goggles, Oh my god, I will have

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Speaker 4: the goggles, absolutely, Tie.

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Speaker 3: Have we decided if we're bringing paddles?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Good question. I will be going back to LA

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Speaker 1: I can bring a home paddle.

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Speaker 3: I will bring my home paddle with me. I don't

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Speaker 3: have the convenient little like paddle hard. I don't have

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Speaker 3: the holster for it. I think you need the holster

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Speaker 3: to really be a true gamer when it comes to

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Speaker 3: the ping pong table. But I will have it in

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Speaker 3: a very upscale Wegman's zipper like zip block plastic bag.

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Speaker 1: Right, okay, fair enough. Do you have a favorite beer

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Speaker 1: that you would want?

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Speaker 3: I got to see what's available, but something that maybe

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Speaker 3: gives a little bit of a craft feel to it

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Speaker 3: without being too heavy on the alcohol content. Maybe a

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Speaker 3: little all day ipa.

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Speaker 1: Might work for me. Oh tye, you elitist beer or snob?

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Speaker 3: You now as you should be drink whatever. I don't care.

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Speaker 4: I yeah, I'm not a big beer drinker, but the

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Speaker 4: beer I do like is I'm just cold cans of

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Speaker 4: cheap non Corona Mexican beer. So your pacific O, your takat,

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Speaker 4: your modello, that's my good spot, that's the sweet spot.

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Speaker 2: Cool.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, we gave you all the deats on

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Speaker 3: how to get those tickets. We answered as many questions

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Speaker 3: as we could. We'll try to get to more questions

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Speaker 3: as we progress throughout Bowl season, but starting I guess

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Speaker 3: next week, maybe next show. I have to check our schedule.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna be previewing Bowl games before long, so keep

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Speaker 3: it right here. If you're filling out your bullpul you

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Speaker 3: want some tips and pointers at a minimum of preview

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Speaker 3: of what's going to go down during Bowl season. We

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Speaker 3: can provide that to you over the next couple weeks

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Speaker 3: or so. Be sure to check out the Facebook page

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Speaker 3: and the Twitter, the Instagram, and the website for more

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Speaker 3: information on how to get into our bull confidence pool.

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Speaker 4: Daniel H. Enjoy your weekend. I guess we'll talk to

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Speaker 4: you on Sunday. Yeah, that sounds like a plan. It

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Speaker 4: will start breaking down Bowl thoughts or more cute. We'll

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Speaker 4: figure something out and I'll see you on Friday for

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Speaker 4: the Piesman. Yes, Pisman Trophy. So if you're listening to

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Speaker 4: this before Friday or Friday during the day seven thirty

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Speaker 4: pm Eastern Time, YouTube dot Com slash sb Nation, the

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Speaker 4: Pisman Trophy ceremony will be live.

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Speaker 1: We have all sorts.

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Speaker 4: Uncle Luke from two Live Crew, Big Miami Fan, It's

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Speaker 4: gonna be here. He's gonna be presenting a new Pisman element.

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Speaker 1: Damn be great. Oh I'm so excited.

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Speaker 3: For that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein,

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Speaker 3: for myself, Tye hilde Brand. Thanks for tuning in. We'll

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Speaker 3: catch you on Sunday. In the meantime, stay solid, Heyce.