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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she

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Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and

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Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me

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Speaker 1: I'm not broke, you know he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs,

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Speaker 1: it's what he likes to share. Now it's time to

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Speaker 1: hear from my man, Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations. Here

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Speaker 1: we come. Welcome to Money Making Conversation. I am your

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Speaker 1: host from Sean McDonald. It's time to stop reading other

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Speaker 1: people's success stories and really start writing their own. Now

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Speaker 1: you can be motivated by their success because their stories

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Speaker 1: your planning and your committed effort. My interview is like

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Speaker 1: the one you will hear today, will provide you, as

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Speaker 1: She's one of those. She's a CEO, she's an entrepreneur,

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Speaker 1: and most importantly, she's an industry decision maker. My next

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Speaker 1: guest is Laurie and Gibson. She's an Emmy nominating creative visionary, choreographer, director, producer,

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Speaker 1: and entrepreneur. Her new book is Dance Your Dance. Eight

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Speaker 1: Steps to leash your passion and live your dreams. The

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Speaker 1: book was packed with personal antidotes and messages of empowerment.

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Speaker 1: Dance Your Dance highlights Gibson's evolution from a young dancer

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Speaker 1: training in New York City to a well respected, in

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Speaker 1: from the ground up. The book unveils the ultimate blueprint

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Speaker 1: some of the world's greatest superstars, including Lady Gaga, Nicki Minaj,

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Speaker 1: Katie Perry, and the Jonas Brothers, among others. Please welcome

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Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversation for the very second time. She's

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Speaker 1: a good friend of mine to have on this show

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Speaker 1: and I'm happy to promote her new book. Laurie Anne Gibson,

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Speaker 1: How are you doing? Ms Gibson, Hi, You're fantastic. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for having well. First of all, you know, welcome

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Speaker 1: to my new studio. I want to because last time

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Speaker 1: a good way, and a lot of success that you've

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Speaker 1: had in despite the COVID nineteen, How did they de

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Speaker 1: affect your life or the COVID nineteen the pandemic, and

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Speaker 1: how did that impact you in and pro motivated you

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Speaker 1: for Well? The interesting thing is I was told when

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Speaker 1: kept hearing this and I kep saying to myself, I think,

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Speaker 1: I think, I think that's right. You know, when everything

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Speaker 1: shuts down, when people's idea of what it takes to

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Speaker 1: that I used in helping big superstars becoming their very best,

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Speaker 1: and I was able to inspire it in eight steps

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Speaker 1: COVID was a blessing. There was an opportunity to shift

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Speaker 1: And part of that is shifting the narrative and creating

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Speaker 1: and no one else's well, you know, I definitely want

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Speaker 1: to I want to walk you through you telling your story. Right.

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Speaker 1: I read the book, enjoyed the book. I read a

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Speaker 1: have to share personal personal angles, and sometimes you're not

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Speaker 1: happy to share those angles, like your relationship we had

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Speaker 1: But life is a dance. Explain why you say life

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Speaker 1: because it's about different rhythms, it's about different steps that

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Speaker 1: that my passion to connect directly with entrepreneurs and visionaries

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Speaker 1: in the end because I was able to write a

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Speaker 1: book that would be effective for visionaries. The thing about

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Speaker 1: it is that it's effective in a lot of ways

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Speaker 1: because you have to be honest with these books. I

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Speaker 1: many people are afraid to talk about the process, and

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Speaker 1: But it's the fact that I had to get back up,

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Speaker 1: now branding pivoting. You were you know, uh dream book

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Speaker 1: you know, even till the discovering the world of hip hop,

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Speaker 1: that was discovered overnight. They just, well, pivoty you when

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