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Speaker 1: Revere, Revere Donks.

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Speaker 2: Look at this now, tip to tip. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 2: this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat more or less. Hey, let's bang

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Speaker 1: to me. It's Monday morning. How about that? It is

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Speaker 1: the twenty first of November twenty twenty two, and it's

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Speaker 1: time diggity donks for Morning Combat. Hello everyone, I am

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Speaker 1: merely one half of your hosting duo. My name is

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Speaker 1: Luke Thomas. I got a big poofy hair going on. Thing.

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Speaker 1: I joined you from the capital of the Status and

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Speaker 1: Needles right here in Washington, DC, joined by my new

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Speaker 1: England brethren, you know him as that BC with that CTE.

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Speaker 1: He's my friend and yours. It's Brian Campbell. Hi, Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: I'm here, Luke. Thank you for that great rousing introduction.

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Speaker 2: I'm fired up to be here on a Monday and

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Speaker 2: to get right into breaking down fights, because that's why

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Speaker 2: people come to MK. The other stuff, the dad humor,

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Speaker 2: the excessive fifteen minute ads to open the show, Look,

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Speaker 2: that's all just gravy, right, but they come for the

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Speaker 2: meat pie, everything I'm going to be consuming on Thursday,

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Speaker 2: along with my athletic greens. Okay, so it's Turkey Day week,

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Speaker 1: Other and each other. Yes, indeed, all right, BC, let's

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Speaker 1: get to it. So what do we have on the

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Speaker 2: Okay, well it will, but let me just give a

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll glad to know what everyone should be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you guys have another show you

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Speaker 1: Now, basically right, basically right. And we call him Gang

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Speaker 2: Well, he's in the reserve. Look like your marine ship.

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Speaker 2: He's in the reserves. Okay, I mean you know he's

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Speaker 1: This is some you think, this is some slight, your

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Speaker 2: Also, every single one of your heroes that you that

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Speaker 2: Well you could argue that's always been the American way.

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Speaker 2: But hey, let's bang all right too, Let's all right.

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Speaker 1: One more reminder, Morning Combat at gmail dot com is

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Speaker 1: your email. You can send us your dead wrongs there

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Speaker 1: by the way you were asking me, And I'm at

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Speaker 2: It's incredible that we're so successful. Okay, to be fair

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Speaker 2: right now, but hey, let's get into it. Because Luke

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Speaker 2: Belator happened Friday and I was entertained.

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Speaker 1: Brother Belatore did happen Friday. All right, so let's kick

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Speaker 1: off the show with some Belatore news. We start with

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Speaker 1: the main events really of Belatore two eighty eight, which

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Speaker 1: of course was on showtime over the weekend in Chicago, Illinois.

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Speaker 1: Thedeem Nemkov retains his title. Can you believe it? He

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Speaker 1: Belator light Heavyweight Grand Prix BC. He didn't just beat

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Speaker 2: That's not gonna happen either. But Luke, if he's not

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Speaker 2: right there in the conversation and deserves inclusion within that group.

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Speaker 2: Why because uh, it's just the way the luck turned

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Speaker 2: from this redo, it's gonna be Vedem Nemcoff. But our

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Speaker 2: Corey Anderson's plan a still that great? Turns out, No, Luke,

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Speaker 2: because Verdem Nemcoff used that time to approve, and unfortunately

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Speaker 2: think even bigger Luke than the takedowns was his control

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Speaker 2: But for the most part this was left jab calf kick,

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Speaker 2: And that's all full respect to the changes vadem Nemkoff

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Speaker 2: and showed us what he's all about. He's one of

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Speaker 2: a tremendous run right now within Bellator. But this rematch,

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Speaker 2: Corey Anderson didn't. That's the difference in this.

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Speaker 1: Fight, Luke. You know, it's so funny. We had Corey

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Speaker 1: with us that, you know, his friend had told him,

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Speaker 1: Hey man, this guy got a good look at you.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to have some new tricks up your

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Speaker 1: The amount of improvement that Vedeem Nemkov made between the

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Speaker 1: much better about your takedown defense that quickly. And of course,

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Speaker 1: if you heard the broadcast, they attributed it to of

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Speaker 1: it was the same kind of situation. Here's what I mean.

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Speaker 1: We talked about Frankie Edgar against Max Holloway and that

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Speaker 1: matchup because at one forty five, Max Holloway has very

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Speaker 1: component out of Frankie's game, his striking becomes a lot

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Speaker 1: easier to deal with. Now. You had asked me on Friday,

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Speaker 2: Dan Lambert had at the att Gym.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the political leanings of Russian fighters these days.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine if Brazilian fighters are massively right wing

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Speaker 1: and American fighters are massively right wing, I would imagine

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Speaker 1: so or Russian fighters. But one never knows neither here

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Speaker 1: nor there. Here's the next question. BC. Okay, so they

431
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Speaker 1: had a face off in the cage on the February

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Speaker 1: card February fourth, I believe on cbs CO main event,

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Speaker 1: but deem Nemcov is going to defend his title against

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Speaker 1: Joel Romero. Early thoughts about how this could go well.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I love the matchup, not just the

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Speaker 2: you know, celebrity factor, the sex factor, because j all

437
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Speaker 2: Romero can you know, explode with the kind of strikes,

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Speaker 2: the almost video game strikes at times. I love the

439
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Speaker 2: placement on CBS February fourth, under the Fador Bador rematch.

440
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Speaker 2: But I think this is an easier matchup for Videm

441
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Speaker 2: Nemcoff and plays well into what he does. I mean, obviously,

442
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Speaker 2: if you all Romero, you're gonna want to make him extend,

443
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Speaker 2: You're gonna want to make him reach, and you know,

444
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Speaker 2: Romero is never a stranger to sort of holding the

445
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Speaker 2: ball at times in a fight to sort of frustrate

446
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Speaker 2: you and bring that out. So it's gonna be a

447
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Speaker 2: test of that for Nemcov. But if Romero just looks

448
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Speaker 2: to strike against him from the outside, I can't wait

449
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Speaker 2: to see this fight. I want to see Romero's explosive power,

450
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Speaker 2: But I think Nemcoff handles this from a distance. Luke,

451
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Speaker 2: So I think Anderson was that really tough test for

452
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Speaker 2: him within this division. Maybe down the road they end

453
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Speaker 2: up getting a third stab at it if Corey can continue,

454
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Speaker 2: you know, start a new stretch of winning here. But

455
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Speaker 2: I love the real Mero fight. But I think if

456
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Speaker 2: your team nemcoff, you already know what to do against him, right,

457
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Speaker 2: This is not the type of fighter that this version

458
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Speaker 2: of Romero is gonna surprise with that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Right, No. I mean, here's the thing. To me, Nemkov

460
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Speaker 1: is just way better than Romero, like way better. However,

461
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Speaker 1: and we all know this about Romero, you can be

462
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Speaker 1: better than him, and that may not necessarily matter even

463
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Speaker 1: at his advanced age. The guy's nearing fifty. His explosive ability,

464
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Speaker 1: his athletic ability, his weirdness, his willingness to take risk

465
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Speaker 1: in unusual situations that makes him dangerous. That could flip

466
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Speaker 1: the tide of the fight at any point. So I

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Speaker 1: expect Nemkov to win, and I expect, however long the

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Speaker 1: fight goes, Nemkov to be winning the vast majority of

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Speaker 1: that time. But Ramero's a wildcard. He's a wildcard figure

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Speaker 1: that makes it hard to definitively say just because Nemkov

471
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Speaker 1: is better that ultimately means he will clearly win or

472
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Speaker 1: defend his titles. It could get tricky down the line there.

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Speaker 2: Do you think Nemkov can take him down consistently?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I do, not early, not early, But I

475
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Speaker 1: think he's gonna let kick him a lot, get him tired,

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Speaker 1: get him a little bit more stationary, and I think

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Speaker 1: then he could for sure.

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Speaker 2: All Right, he's a hell he's a hell of a champion.

479
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Speaker 2: And you know, it's like after seeing him come back

480
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Speaker 2: and get this, when you want to know more about him. Luke,

481
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Speaker 2: he's very soft spoken. There's obviously the language barrier, and

482
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Speaker 2: you know, we saw what happened when you try to

483
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Speaker 2: get inside of fadors defenses in a sit down. But

484
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Speaker 2: you know, I hope Fadeem gets his chance here to

485
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Speaker 2: be all he can be, Luke, because he seems to

486
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Speaker 2: be a special fighter.

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Speaker 1: So he's one of the best. He's one of the

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Speaker 1: very best fighters Belatore has on their roster. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's better than Patricio, but he's

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Speaker 1: up there. He's top three, maybe best fighter, the top

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Speaker 1: five best fighters that they have. I mean, he's very

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Speaker 1: very good. All right, let's go to point number two.

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Speaker 1: We stayed with Belatore because it was another title up

494
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Speaker 1: for grabs and sure enough this was the easiest to predict,

495
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Speaker 1: although there were some surprises about the fights I suppose

496
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Speaker 1: along the way, but either way, Ousman number get made

497
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Speaker 1: off is your new Bellatore lightweight champion. He absolutely blanked

498
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Speaker 1: Patricky Pitpull. It wasn't even close, not for a minute.

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Speaker 1: Nothing gets the fight gets all five rounds and some

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Speaker 1: judges scorecards. I think he had around two maybe run

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Speaker 1: two round three as a ten eight, so there was

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Speaker 1: one fifty forty five, there was two fifty forty four's.

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Speaker 1: He made it look easy. BC biggest takeaway from this

504
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Speaker 1: championship win by Uspin number madef.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the only thing I could say even remotely

506
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Speaker 2: negative is that we didn't get a finish despite his

507
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Speaker 2: just complete domination. And for those middle rounds he didn't

508
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Speaker 2: necessarily look like he was going for a finish. And

509
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Speaker 2: by the way, it's not always easy to finish somebody

510
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Speaker 2: has battle tested as Patricky Pitbull. But my biggest takeaway

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Speaker 2: Luke is even without a spectacular finish, which I said,

512
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Speaker 2: come into the fight could be like, you know, imagine

513
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Speaker 2: a headkick here, he could just kick your TV screen in.

514
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Speaker 2: He still kind of did. With how great across the

515
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Speaker 2: board in every single category he is for a twenty

516
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Speaker 2: four year old who had four fights under this banner

517
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Speaker 2: on this level, he's what sixteen, seventeen and zero at

518
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Speaker 2: this point. We have no idea how good he may

519
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Speaker 2: end up being in the long run, Luke, when he

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Speaker 2: consistently faces the best in the world, when he adds

521
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Speaker 2: new skills to his game. But look at what he

522
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Speaker 2: is right now at twenty four, you know, with Kochab

523
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Speaker 2: behind him, is Lam Mahachev as another brother, training him

524
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Speaker 2: and pushing him in his corner. I mean, this guy

525
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 2: in every single category was nasty, was well, game plan

526
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Speaker 2: was just I mean from distance to accuracy, He's a

527
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Speaker 2: ten out of the ten across the board in almost

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Speaker 2: every single category. Yeah, there's a lot more he's gonna

529
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Speaker 2: have to show us in his career. And like everybody else,

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Speaker 2: I want to see him against the very best in

531
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Speaker 2: the world, you know, I want to see Hi against

532
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Speaker 2: a j McKee for this title in this promotion one

533
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Speaker 2: day soon. But for this level of competition and just

534
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Speaker 2: his fifth Belator fight short of a finish, he absolutely dazzled.

535
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Speaker 2: He is beyond a complete fighter already for this age.

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Speaker 2: He's a dynamic, sensational fighter that you know, I'm ready

537
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Speaker 2: to start having some real conversations about not only the

538
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Speaker 2: Team Habi movement that is come on and is taking

539
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Speaker 2: over in the creation of MMA's new Gracie family in

540
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Speaker 2: some weird way. But I'm not even sure who's the

541
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Speaker 2: best of all among them, because I got people in

542
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Speaker 2: my DMS going, look, I know you're gonna go nuts.

543
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: I know you're gonna go nuts on usman, but Umar

544
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: is even better than him. And oh, by the way,

545
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Speaker 2: Islam just looked like a million bucks against Charles. Look,

546
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 2: these guys are coming on and they're insanely great and

547
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Speaker 2: this guy's only twenty four. What do you want me

548
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Speaker 2: to say about him? He's everything you would want a

549
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 2: mixed martial artist to be, and whether you cared about

550
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 2: it or not, delivered a very heartfelt, sort of you know,

551
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 2: wholesome reaction to the victory, getting Habiban on the on

552
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Speaker 2: the FaceTime and just showing so much humility and reverence

553
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Speaker 2: to the family. Dude, you know, he looks so good.

554
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 2: You had a feeling he could do that against almost anybody. Now,

555
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Speaker 2: let's not overlook this matchup and how he was a

556
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Speaker 2: seven to one favorite or whatever. He should have done

557
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: this in some ways? Should he have done this though

558
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Speaker 2: reality at twenty four this dominantly with this little WARLD

559
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Speaker 2: level global experience. No, he's a special fighter.

560
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: So listen to this. ESPN MMA put together a graphic.

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Speaker 1: This is team Habib's individual records. Ready Habib, number get

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Speaker 1: madeoff twenty nine and oh Islam Makhachev twenty three and one.

563
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Speaker 1: Islam Mamadov who fights in Bellator, by the way, or

564
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Speaker 1: did I'm sure it's the current state of his contract

565
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Speaker 1: twenty two to two and one. Now Zabirah to Googov

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Speaker 1: not that great twenty and five. Oh, that's still pretty good.

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Speaker 1: In one uh, the only number of Madoff who's got

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Speaker 1: a bit of a blemish, Abba Bakar, number Goe Madeov

569
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Speaker 1: seventeen three and one, Uspin number Goa made Off sixteen

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Speaker 1: and zero, Umar number Goat made Off fifteen and zero,

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Speaker 1: the combined record one hundred and forty two eleven and three. Hammers, Hammers,

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Speaker 1: hammers up and down that list. Now to your point,

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Speaker 1: I thought it looked to me. B See tell me

574
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Speaker 1: if you disagree with this fight with number Goa, Madov

575
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Speaker 1: and and Pitbull I thought, especially in around three and four,

576
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: that Nimergemedov could have turned up the intensity a little bit.

577
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Speaker 1: It looked to me what he wanted to do was

578
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Speaker 1: make sure the fight was always, always, always on the

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Speaker 1: most advantageous terms he could get, and he only really

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Speaker 1: went for a takedown when he had a very clear,

581
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Speaker 1: totally wide opening that he was able to create. Other

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Speaker 1: than that, he played it what I would call a

583
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Speaker 1: little bit on the safe side. I think he was

584
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Speaker 1: feeling the nerves a little bit for him in his career.

585
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Speaker 1: This was his first rank guy in Belator, was for

586
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Speaker 1: a championship fight, it was for five rounds. It looked

587
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Speaker 1: to me just a little bit BC, just a little

588
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Speaker 1: bit ununderstandably given all the circumstances. He was a little

589
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Speaker 1: bit nervous, a little bit cautious. Does that seem fair

590
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: to you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the only I think that's gotta be the

592
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Speaker 2: only the only thing you could slam back at him.

593
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Speaker 2: And it was legit because I felt like he should

594
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Speaker 2: have walked him down and finished him. And when we

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Speaker 2: say he's a hammer, Luke, it's not just takedown domination.

596
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Speaker 2: I mean he's absolutely dominating every inch of that stand

597
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Speaker 2: up against a noted almost all time great slugger for

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Speaker 2: this promo. So yeah, short of the passivity he showed

599
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Speaker 2: at times, but look at these pictures right here, he

600
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Speaker 2: wasn't passive there in full mom mount. Yeah, he's freaking nasty.

601
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Speaker 1: He's good on the feet, he's got good ground and

602
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: pound his take. I will say this for Petricy, he

603
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Speaker 1: did get taken down, and when he did, obviously never

604
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: Commanda was able to do a lot of damage on

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Speaker 1: the on the floor. I will say this, I thought

606
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Speaker 1: Petricy's takedown defense looked a lot better than I had

607
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Speaker 1: thought that it might. I thought he was gonna get

608
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Speaker 1: taken down much easier than he did. A velatoire doesn't

609
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Speaker 1: provide stats, so we don't have the exact numbers. But

610
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Speaker 1: there were several times he was able to ward off

611
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Speaker 1: the takedowns and and keep I think that's part of

612
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Speaker 1: the reason, because the takedowns were a little bit harder

613
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Speaker 1: to come by, and so Usman was a little bit

614
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Speaker 1: more careful on the feet than you might imagine. But

615
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Speaker 1: you know, look at the state of things. He was bloodied,

616
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Speaker 1: he was battered. Still, I get Petricky credit. He's taken

617
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Speaker 1: on defence, not perfect, not enough to win better than

618
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Speaker 1: I thought it would be for sure.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not gonna sit here and compare Islam Mahachev's

620
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Speaker 2: breakthrough performance against Charles Olivera and this one against Patriki.

621
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Speaker 2: Petriky's got a great career and he's a great fighter.

622
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Speaker 2: There are different levels though. We still have to see

623
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Speaker 2: Usman against a lot of different competition. But luckily he's

624
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Speaker 2: twenty four. It's so early. Do we have a feel

625
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Speaker 2: right now at who's the best, the best fighter long

626
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Speaker 2: term in the stable? Are these cries in my dms

627
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Speaker 2: of Umar being the real deal? Legit? I mean, dude,

628
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Speaker 2: Islam Mahachev may be way better than we even realize

629
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Speaker 2: right now. Look at the leap he just did against Charles.

630
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Speaker 2: But look at twenty five minutes of Usman right there.

631
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Speaker 2: Look at Umar of late, just blowing our doors down.

632
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 2: That another guy's coming out of that hammer closet. Who's

633
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Speaker 2: the best out of these guys? Or are these guys

634
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Speaker 2: gonna end up being better than Habib because he was

635
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Speaker 2: more one skill dominant for the most part. How do

636
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Speaker 2: you sort of take stock of the cupboard right now?

637
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Speaker 1: Hard to say Umar's Umar's grappling might be a little

638
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: bit better than Usman's, but I think Usban's stand up

639
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: might be a little smoother than Umar. Although Umar is

640
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: underrated on the feet as well. Umar might be the

641
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: best of them. That's possible. It's undecided, it's a little

642
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: Here's what I would say. It's just too early to

643
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: tell between those two. But I do understand people that

644
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: think Umar might be a little bit more talented. Nevertheless,

645
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: I just want to point this out. At twenty four,

646
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: usbinnberga madeof is sixteen and h undefeated, got the championship belt,

647
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: already has a complete skill set right like, already good

648
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: enough to win a title in a major organization. Imagine

649
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,959
Speaker 1: when he's gonna be, like in five years, because, by

650
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: the way, he doesn't take a lot of damage either.

651
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure those practices are insanely difficult, but

652
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: in the fights themselves, he doesn't take a lot of damage.

653
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: So in five years, as he continues to round out,

654
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: smooth out, and really bring all the portions of his

655
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: game together, dude, I mean don't know if he's going

656
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: to be unbeatable, but if he can keep up what

657
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: he has been doing, I just gonna be hard to

658
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: fucking beat that guy.

659
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: I have two really important questions for you involving Usmann,

660
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: Normaga Medoff, when team Habib and Rip the late Abdolman

661
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: app the the patriarch of this Dagistan jim here of

662
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: this movement. Look, they were very strategic from day one

663
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: of one day Habible step aside, Islam will take over

664
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 2: in his spot more or less right outside of the

665
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: interim reigned by Charles OLIVERA. That's what happened. Do you

666
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: think long ahead of time they obviously knew Usman was

667
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: gonna be good, this good, this young. Did they steer

668
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: him to Bellator rather than be in a situation where

669
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: they've got Islam in him and they're basically brothers right

670
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 2: more or less in the same division. Was there any

671
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: pre planning in.

672
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: That had to be I don't think they do anything

673
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: by accident, you know, I just don't. Nothing happens just

674
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: because it happens that way. It was obviously great for

675
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: Belatur that they got the Nimerka madeoff services. And again

676
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: I think Islam mom Mamodov, excuse me, fights for him

677
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, I listen, I you saw that a

678
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: little bit were were talking about some of that hesitancy.

679
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: I think they wanted to put him in a place

680
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: where he could get We've talked about it before the

681
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: AJ McKee. AJ McKee went from making his debut to

682
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: winning a title in a major organization all in one place.

683
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: He never had to bounce around. If you are a

684
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: talented person who has extraordinary potential but you're still young, right,

685
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: putting someone in beltore where they can they can coordinate

686
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: the matchmaking more along all the various stages of your development,

687
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: I think really benefits you. Now he jumped to the

688
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: front of the line against PETRICHI, so at this point

689
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,959
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to enter the Grand Prix and then

690
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: defend his title. But I do think that there's something

691
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: to be said for the fact they wanted to mature

692
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: and nurture this guy, yet when he was ready still

693
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: give him, you know, high quality opponents Bell Tour. I think,

694
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: under those considerations is probably a better fit for him

695
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: like it was for aj McKee as he was making

696
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: his ascension through that under the ranks as well.

697
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: Glad you mentioned Aj because that's my second hot BURNING

698
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: have to ask you right now, must interrupt you regardless

699
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: of the direction you were going to me. I do

700
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: some people think I'm just filthy, right. I can be

701
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 2: a cash right, but my hardcore heart usmanner MAGA metto

702
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 2: versus AJ mcke is one of the best fights you

703
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 2: can make in this sport right now, and we're really

704
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 2: close potentially to seeing that. So, Luke Thomas, I want

705
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: to ask you, is Ousmann a problem for AJ? Or

706
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: is this when it happens and it could be who

707
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 2: knows in the next year. I don't know. Is this

708
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: is this a fifty to fifty fight in your eyes?

709
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 2: Because of what we still don't know about both of them?

710
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 2: I mean, what the hell is this gonna look like?

711
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be so fired up?

712
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is a crazy one. So you know,

713
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: AJ is gonna go out there like just guns blazing

714
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 1: and try to put a lot of offensive pressure on him.

715
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem wise to try and out, you know,

716
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: uh point fight a guy like Uspinniberga madeof it, doesn't

717
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: You got to take the fight to him, for better

718
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: or for worse. But of course even with that, there

719
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: are some real challenges with doing something like that. So

720
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: you've got a case where AJ is either going to

721
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: open himself up to vulnerabilities by being too offensive or

722
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: all that pressure will eventually get a guy like Nimberka

723
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: Madov to crack and he will make a mistake. That's

724
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: the central tension of that fight. But like both guys

725
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 1: very well rounded, both guys very offensive. It just feels

726
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 1: to me Aj McKee at this stage of his career

727
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: a little bit more gunslinger, a little bit more gunslinger,

728
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 1: a guy like Number Madoff a little bit more surgeon.

729
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 2: I'd want to see what they're wrestling and grappling looks

730
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 2: like against one another. I'd really want to see if.

731
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: That one fifty five Grand Prix, that division is now

732
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: ready for a Grand Prix, and now Number Madoff at

733
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: the head of the pack, it's ready for one. I

734
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: really can't wait to see what it looks like because

735
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna have some dynamic matchups in that weight class

736
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,439
Speaker 1: and they're all planning for this dude, so it's gonna

737
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: be yeah.

738
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: Wait, was that that was the Grand Prix that was

739
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: announced for next year? Correct?

740
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 1: Correct?

741
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 2: What do you think the ape Man field is going

742
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: to look like right now?

743
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: So let's pull up the rankings here. You can get

744
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: those at CBS sports dot Com for Bell Tour's lightweight division.

745
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: Here's what it looks like, right, so you could have

746
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 1: Obviously Usman's gonna have to be in it. Patricky's gonna

747
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: be in it. You could have I mean, I'm just

748
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: gonna pick names. May not be the names you could

749
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: pick these. Benson Henderson could go in it, right and

750
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: this dude, by the way, also beat the previous champion,

751
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: Tilfique Musaye. If you can add him in there, you

752
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: could do another. How about another Russian hammer, Alexander Shabili,

753
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: you could add him in, Brent Primis, Islam Mamadov aj McKee.

754
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: There's eight right there. That doesn't even include Sidney L.

755
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: Law or Peter Coeeley.

756
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 2: All Right, you know I like storylines, you know, I

757
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 2: like when some of the last remaining gauchos cowboys are

758
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: are there and they look at the stock of things.

759
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: I know we're talking about Patricio Pitbull, the Pofer pound

760
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: King of Belato, or the face of the poster, maybe

761
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 2: trying to like, you know, double down on his greatness

762
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 2: as much as he could, potentially cutting down to a

763
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: one thirty five title shot to try to become the

764
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: first three division champion, which is something, by the way,

765
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 2: that one championships Werenier de Ritter, who I interviewed it'll

766
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: be out this week. He told me that's his goal.

767
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: Look to become the first in big time. Mmaybe a

768
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: three division champion, So.

769
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: He'll watch that potential.

770
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: But if Patricio said, you know what, I don't want

771
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 2: my brother going out like that. I gave up my

772
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: lightweight championship in Belatar. Okay, they didn't win it, Ushman

773
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 2: didn't win it. I gave it up. I'm entering the tournament, brother, Well,

774
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 2: I mean, are you are?

775
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: You're not right? Come on right, only if Patricky's not

776
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: in it, because I don't want to get to some

777
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: bullshit where they have to fight and then they refuse.

778
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: Okay, put them on opposite brackets, and then if it

779
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: happens and you got you got another inner piece of

780
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 2: weird entertainment.

781
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: Okay, But I'll say this, Patricio against any of those

782
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: guys is competitive and maybe maybe better. You know, I'm

783
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: we're talking about a very special fighter in Patricio Pitbull.

784
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that Lightweight Grand Prix is going to

785
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: be fire dude. They've added Russian names to it. Enough

786
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: now between Chile, between Mammadovnika Madov, Musaiah. Just that alone,

787
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 1: just the Russian side alone, is fucking amazing.

788
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: You think Aaron Pico should move up and uner?

789
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, okay, you just got surgery.

790
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: No, it just got I'm trying. I'm trying to put

791
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 2: as many you know, herbs and spices in it as

792
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 2: I can. Luke, Okay, well, I'm trying to put urban it.

793
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: That's truly what I'm trying to do. A big pot cake. Yeah, yeah,

794
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 2: there it is.

795
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: Okay. One more note quickly about the number Goat made

796
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: off and Patricky fight at least the after effects. So

797
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: on Saturday, or I guess sometime Friday night Saturday morning,

798
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: Patricio people had tweeted that his brother was still in

799
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: the hospital at four in the morning and hadn't received

800
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: adequate care, and he was lashing out at the Illinois

801
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: Athletic Commission and kind of tagged Belator in the tweet

802
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: as well, being like, it's not the first time this

803
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: has happened. So I reached out to both parties to

804
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: get more information, and it seems like some stuff there

805
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: here's basically as I understand it, there actually was a

806
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: doctor on site. By law, there has to be by

807
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: the Illinois Commission my understanding from what I've been told,

808
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: and again I was not there. I want to be

809
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: very clear about that. What I was told was that there,

810
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: in fact, my law, there had to be a doctor

811
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: there was. The doctor looked at the cut and said,

812
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: this requires more stitching than I'm actually able to provide.

813
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: It required deep stitching inside the tissue. So they sent

814
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: him to the hospital. Now apparently what they tried to do. Now,

815
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: both parties say that this is true. Both parties say

816
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 1: that the doctor on site at the event called ahead

817
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: to the hospital to get the surgical tech ready to

818
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: go so that when Patricky got to the hospital he

819
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: could get care immediately. For whatever reason, that failed. Both

820
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: sides agreed that that for whatever reason, it didn't work.

821
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: And so hello, let's just be honest about it. The

822
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: American healthcare system is garbage and if you show up

823
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: to a hospital at midnight, you're just going to have

824
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: to wait. It's just the way that it goes. So

825
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: they eventually here, and here's I think why the Pitol bros.

826
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: Were a little bit upset the doctor or whatever they

827
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 1: were at receiving didn't get them, so they had to wait,

828
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: and then when the surgical tech person did arrive, they

829
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 1: decided that they actually didn't need the deep tissue stitches,

830
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: that you could just get the normal stitches on top,

831
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: and so he got ten to close it. So there

832
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: was some misc communication along the way. The doctor in

833
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: the arena was the one who basically made the call

834
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: to send him to the hospital, tried to set it up,

835
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: it didn't work, and it all fell apart. I don't

836
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 1: know what the answer is. Do you get another one there,

837
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: do you get a different doctor? I don't. I don't

838
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 1: know how to resolve this PC, but that's my understanding

839
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: of what went wrong here.

840
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 2: I would counter your harsh statement against the American health

841
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: care system and the supposed made up idea of what

842
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 2: it's like to go to a emergency room at twelve

843
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 2: midnight if not for the fact that you've lived that night.

844
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 2: Maare Luke and I was there, okay, back in hospital

845
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 2: after that.

846
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: Although we got pretty we got pretty swift care there,

847
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: I have to relatively speaking.

848
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 2: If you died there and people were like, yeah, he

849
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 2: had a great life, but he died in New London, Connecticut.

850
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 2: You probably deserve that. Look, okay, you know that.

851
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: You deserve I mean, listen, nobody can say that the

852
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: American health care system, whatever solution you have for it,

853
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: no one can say that you get you get care

854
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: quickly and that it's cheap. No one can say that

855
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: you just don't. So yeah, but even there.

856
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 2: But even with the you know, the perfect ideal, ideological

857
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: Canadian system, you got to wait a long time for

858
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 2: some of that care too, Luke sure.

859
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the answer. It just would have been

860
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 1: better if the doctor that was required by the Illinois

861
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: Commission either a had done the stitching himself or B.

862
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: I think it actually think it's fine that he sent

863
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: him because here's what this is a true thing. Poor

864
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: my poor daughter, I don't know if you remember this, BC,

865
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: when she had that big cut on her forehead, we

866
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: had to take her to the hospital. She they the

867
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,959
Speaker 1: doctor there actually had did the same thing to us.

868
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 1: He told us we're gonna wait for the stitch tech

869
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: to get here because they're better at it. And they

870
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: had to get I think it was fourteen stitches on

871
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: the inside and then like another seven on the outside,

872
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: and so we had to wait for that whole thing

873
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: to go through. So I've actually lived through this very

874
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: thing exactly, but it just I guess it all all

875
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: would have been better if for all parties, if that

876
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: guy either A had stitched him up there or B

877
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: if he made the call to the hospital and that

878
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: would have worked. I think that would have been. That

879
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: would have been fine.

880
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: But you know what if the attending stitch physician was

881
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 2: Jacob Stitch Duran, would you have been would you have

882
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 2: ocaid that Luke?

883
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: He would have put Vasilyna out there and has been like,

884
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: go get him Tiger, go get him Tooky.

885
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: Back to the real world there, back.

886
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: To the playground. All right, So that's that. Let's move

887
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 1: on if we can. Uh, Let's talk about UFC, because

888
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: that card was it was not great going into it,

889
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 1: and it ended up somehow even worse.

890
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: It was a lot of that. There was a lot

891
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 2: of ball kicking, there was pole dancing. There's a lot

892
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 2: going on in this car.

893
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: There was. It was not a normal night. So let's

894
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: before we talk about Derrek Lewis bec, let's quickly talk

895
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: about the fight that ended up did serving as your

896
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: main event. Two of five contests between Kennedy and zech Q.

897
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: I can never pronounce this fucking guy's name. I'm sorry,

898
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: I'm so bad about this. You dropped the end, you

899
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: go right to the Z and zech Q. I'm gonna

900
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: say that, and I don't think that's right. He stopped Ewan.

901
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: Although Laba started out strong, he eventually had a comeback.

902
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: What what's what can we say about Kennedy Q that

903
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: stands out to that is reasonable, really.

904
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 2: Tall for the division? Luke? All right, all right, that's

905
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 2: what I could say. Now, Look, he showed a showed

906
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 2: a ton of heart in this. I mean, iwan kute Lab,

907
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 2: but we said coming in, hey, it really needs to

908
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: win here, really really needs to win. But one thing

909
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 2: he can do is fight downhill when he's got your

910
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: hurt and just come out guns blazing. He did that.

911
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: He got Kennedy hurt. Man That first round was was

912
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 2: was epically bad for Kennedy. You know what I mean,

913
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 2: it was almost like Dallas Luke for Kennedy. I mean,

914
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: it's not like too soon. I'm not saying it was

915
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 2: like a great connection, you know, in the moment, but

916
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's like it's not It wasn't

917
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 2: like it's you know, we had a lot of time

918
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: to do. You know, all right, here's the deal though, Look, dude,

919
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 2: does this jump through your screen? You know, has get

920
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: this suited suit this guy up? He's a contender. No,

921
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 2: but this was a big win against a guy you

922
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 2: have to beat to advance. I don't know what's next

923
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: for Kutelab after this, but in relation to and zek Wu, dude,

924
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: he was toughest nails. Look if he can use that

925
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: size to his advantage, with that which at times it

926
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 2: looked like he was trying on the ground when he

927
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 2: was on his back after Kuti Laba took him down,

928
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 2: he could be something. There's something there. There's a fighting

929
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 2: spirit there, there's an unusual size, and he showed a

930
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: lot to dig in, hurt the monster back and get

931
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: him out of there. I still need to see more,

932
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: but for a last minute, unlikely main event, these two

933
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 2: at the very least they were willing to risk it

934
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: all and they showed out for our entertainment. I was impressed.

935
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 2: Did you take more from Kennedy Luke? You know what

936
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 2: I'm saying that he's got a big future.

937
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Here are his It's hard to know

938
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 1: exactly what his real upside is. He's obviously quite talented,

939
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: and this was a great win by him. By the way,

940
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: He's got losses to Paul Craig triangle choke, but that

941
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: was his UFC debut, so you know, okay, whatever, and

942
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: then he's got losses to dot Un Jung and then

943
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: Nikolai Nigga Morano, who he lost to via split. He

944
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: does have wins KO wins over Carlos Olberg, He's got

945
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: wins over Dinnil ol Marquez. He's got back to back

946
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: TKO wins over Carl Roberson and now Ewan kute Lava.

947
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: He's clearly getting better. He's clearly getting better. He clearly

948
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: put on a pretty good performance. He's got an eighty

949
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: three inch reach, one less than John Jones, one inch

950
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: less than John Jones, and training with fourtis MMA has

951
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: really put him in a good position. Rallied here didn't

952
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: panic to me. The more interesting story here is like,

953
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: where is kute Laba in all of this three losses

954
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: in a row. He's only won one in his last seven.

955
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 2: Dude, He's won five and one one five and one.

956
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: First on Calia fight was just a weird one you

957
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: can throw that out, but then he lost cleanly. The

958
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: second time, had the draw against Dustin Jacoby. He did

959
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 1: beat Devin Clark, but then has lost three being finished

960
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: in the first round against span Walker and in the

961
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: second round here against Kennedy. Here's the thing, b see,

962
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: he came out like a fucking bat out of hell

963
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: in all of his early fights. He gets with extreme

964
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: coutur and he tries to tighten it up, and he

965
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: is tightening it up. He did look like he had

966
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: a more streamlines, like thought processed kind of way of fighting,

967
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: but it has made him either more hittable or less dangerous.

968
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: How do you diagnose where things have gone wrong for him?

969
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 2: I mean, his defense is not great and he takes

970
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 2: so many chances offensively that he puts himself in the

971
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 2: line of fire. You know, I think he's the type

972
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 2: of guy. Man it's like twenty eight years old. Still,

973
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 2: there's such an explosive frame there to work with and

974
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: a willingness to make at car crashes in action. If somebody,

975
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: which as you mentioned, going to extreme mature was a

976
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: smart move, if somebody can really tone that down a bit,

977
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: you know, it's a little similar to what we were

978
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 2: talking about with Johnny Walker going to John Kavanaugh Company.

979
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 2: But I don't think you cut him here despite that record.

980
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 2: I mean one five and one is a damning stretch.

981
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: He is willing to fight anybody at any time, and

982
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 2: he is willing to go to play the role of

983
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 2: the crazy foreign guy the whole and he's also willing

984
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 2: to let it all hang out, which he did right

985
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 2: here in his last second main event opportunity. This type

986
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 2: of guy this company loves. That doesn't mean there's still

987
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 2: a lot of work to do behind the scenes. Look,

988
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: he is Eric Nixon. His guy here is that the I.

989
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: Don't think he's the only one, but he's one of them.

990
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, I'd be interested in talking to Eric

991
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 2: and really get a breakdown. I'm like, what parts of

992
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 2: that game would you mute a bit to allow other

993
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 2: more fundamental areas to shine, Because this is a guy

994
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 2: who can do a lot, and I guess a certain

995
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 2: level could look explosive as shit and exciting, which is

996
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 2: why I don't think you want him to just walk

997
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 2: out that door and go somewhere else. But you also

998
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: can't really take on much more losses than this. This

999
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 2: is about the limit, So if you were in that,

1000
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 2: Jim Luke, what are you going to tell this guy?

1001
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. This is beyond my purview, This is

1002
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 1: beyond my pay grade. This is a level of difficulty

1003
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: in problem solving I just don't have because I do

1004
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: think they're trying to do right by the guy, and

1005
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: I do think he made a right call in going

1006
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: to a gym that we know turns people into champions.

1007
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: You just know they can. But they can't turn water

1008
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: into wine either. So it's really a question of, like,

1009
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: what can they do for him to tighten up his

1010
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: defense and make these fights go a little bit longer

1011
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: I think than they have been, beyond what they already

1012
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: are doing. I don't know the answer to that. I

1013
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: really just don't know the answer to that, unfortunately, but

1014
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: I guess we're gonna find out.

1015
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: Now.

1016
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: There's two other stories from this car that we have

1017
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 1: to get to real quick.

1018
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 2: Real quick. Do you think Kennedy and Jet Will can

1019
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:12,959
Speaker 2: dunk with these?

1020
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: I mean, if he can, that's kind of some bullshit.

1021
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: He's six ' five with an eighty three inch reads.

1022
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 2: He'd better be able to, cause, you know, spoiler.

1023
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: The guy can stand up and scratch his knees.

1024
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 2: We we're gonna have Anthony Smith on room service diaries tomorrow,

1025
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: by the way, so circle it on your calendars here

1026
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 2: on morning combat. But you know, he told us at

1027
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 2: six ' two he can't dunk, And I was like, you,

1028
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 2: you're a world class athlete, bro, you were one lie

1029
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 2: away from being the world champion. You can't dunk.

1030
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: He might have been being humble. No, what he said

1031
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: was he could touch the rim.

1032
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's not the same thing as putting the

1033
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 2: ball over the cylinder and through the hoop.

1034
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: And I never point is if he trailed, okay, but

1035
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 1: if you can already touch the rim, you can train

1036
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: to dunk like he could dunk if he worked at it, right.

1037
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, it shouldn't matter in real life, but Luke,

1038
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 2: I come from a place where there's certain currency and

1039
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 2: things like getting a lot of chicks dunk in a basketball,

1040
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 2: being a diesel man, and consuming more alcohol than the

1041
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 2: regular fair. You know, these are like not bad. You know,

1042
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 2: these are things you would tattoo on your arm, like

1043
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 2: a crazy fraternity would make you do, Luke, just to

1044
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 2: show people who you are. Right, So I sat, I

1045
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 2: bet you Kennedy Dunk's wind Mills. That's what I think.

1046
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: Okay, you might all right, what do you want to

1047
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: say about the main event? Derek Lewis falling ill once

1048
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: the event had basically already started. They said him to

1049
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: the hospital. He was eventually cleared some kind of stomach

1050
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: illness as best I understand it, and they had to

1051
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: pull it. Is there anything to say here at PC

1052
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 1: or is it just bad luck?

1053
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 2: I mean it is just bad luck. Does it come

1054
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: at a bad time? I don't know. I mean he

1055
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 2: needs a big win. But at the same time, I

1056
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 2: don't think this hurts his standing. And obviously, for all

1057
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 2: the talk we are about injuries and Delashaw's arm falling

1058
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: off twenty times before that fight, if somebody's not up

1059
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 2: to speed health wise, I'm surprised this doesn't have more often.

1060
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: You would rather have this happen if somebody's not there.

1061
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 2: But given the fact that Derek Lewis needs a big

1062
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,720
Speaker 2: moment to keep his career on track, it was tough timing.

1063
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 2: But you know you're gonna put him in a main

1064
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 2: event and anytime he fights still, so he'll be back

1065
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 2: there soon. But tough to see that, Luke. But this

1066
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 2: story doesn't hold a candle to the interesting legs or

1067
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 2: arms on the branches there from the tree of what

1068
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,720
Speaker 2: this next one does? Luke, Holy shit, James Krause.

1069
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: So, James Krause might be in a little bit of trouble.

1070
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: We don't know. I want to be very clear about that.

1071
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know exactly what kind of peril

1072
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: he faces. I don't, I don't. I don't know exactly

1073
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 1: how to look at this other than to say the following.

1074
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 1: According to one of the fighters who was on the card,

1075
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 1: who won, who trains at Glory MM Fitness, James Krause

1076
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: was pulled from the card about a day before and

1077
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: not allowed to even corner. Now. I don't even know

1078
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: how that is the promotions call that would that seems

1079
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: to be like an athletic commission call. But whatever the case,

1080
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: he he wasn't allowed to. And then it turns out

1081
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: that the state of New Jersey had alerted their the

1082
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: game board essentially in New Jersey, had alerted all betters

1083
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: to not take any bets on any fight Krausser was

1084
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: related to either as trainer, cornerman, coach, you name it.

1085
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: Because of this previous we talked about it last week

1086
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: or two weeks ago the Derek Minner fight where he

1087
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: went in the lines switched quickly for his opponent, and

1088
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,919
Speaker 1: then he went in there and one via first round

1089
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: KO in a very all, very surprising, unusual WAYBC. I'll

1090
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: ask you this question, how much trouble is James Cross in?

1091
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 2: Well, it's gonna depend right now on what they find.

1092
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 2: Whether this is just okay this we're taking this investigation seriously.

1093
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 2: So because of that, James, you're gonna sit this out

1094
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 2: until we can clear your name. That is a possibility here.

1095
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 2: But the other possibility the one where they have information

1096
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 2: right now which meant he definitely should not have been

1097
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 2: there and they went to the steps to make sure

1098
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 2: of that and to make this the story it deserves

1099
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 2: to be. You're in extreme trouble. And I don't mean

1100
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 2: you know necessarily what that means and fines or the

1101
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 2: penal system and all that. I just mean that here's

1102
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 2: a guy who makes his living in this game and

1103
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 2: is one of the best in the world at what

1104
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 2: he does, and these are the type of offenses. If

1105
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 2: this is all true, and there's a big network, and

1106
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 2: I know it's hard for Cross right now because he's

1107
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 2: got that deep connection in gambling, with the discord he

1108
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,479
Speaker 2: runs and the podcast and all that that he's looked

1109
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 2: at as a gambling guy. If there was some impropriety

1110
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 2: in how the Derek minnerfight went down or any other fight, dude,

1111
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 2: that's like banishman. You look at the headlines with Pete

1112
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 2: Rose still begging everyone to get in and have his

1113
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 2: moment that you know, there's like lifetime banishment built in

1114
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 2: there potentially if that's the way, nobody knows because we

1115
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,240
Speaker 2: didn't investigate it. We don't have that inside info unless

1116
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 2: you're part of that greater circle. But Luke in professional

1117
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 2: sports in the history of this type of thing, which

1118
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 2: is why anybody that says anything bad about the UFC

1119
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 2: putting the ban on fighters betting, this is exactly why

1120
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 2: you do that. So well done, UFC, And maybe you

1121
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 2: have to ask yourself, did they get a whiff of

1122
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 2: something like this and that's why they put that in

1123
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 2: Either way, that would be a smart call. But what

1124
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 2: is this type of potential to be a nightmare for

1125
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 2: James Krouse if he was either sharing inside info that

1126
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 2: would have to be protected. You know, when you have

1127
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 2: access to that given how much money can be bet

1128
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,760
Speaker 2: and how you know, gambling is not a silent thing anymore.

1129
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 2: You can't watch a UFC broadcast for two seconds without

1130
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 2: seeing constant things related to betting, or urging or commercials

1131
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: to push you to make a bet. This could be

1132
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 2: very bad. So I applaud everybody for pressing pause and

1133
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 2: giving this the investigation it deserves. I hope for James's sake,

1134
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 2: this is all blown up and there's a lot of

1135
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 2: assumptions being made. But you and I watched that Derek manterfight.

1136
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 2: We react on a morning combat, although none of us

1137
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 2: have proof that did not look good. I hope for

1138
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 2: James Cross's sake, this isn't some deep network here that's

1139
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 2: going to get blown up and busted Luke because he's

1140
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 2: not going to be allowed to work in this sport.

1141
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 2: If this is the direction's going and.

1142
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: We live in a sport, it's it's not just UFC,

1143
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: it's every sport across every platform. Gambling now sports gambling

1144
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: and m MMA or sports in general are just intertwined.

1145
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: Even on this show. We occasionally certainly have sponsors where

1146
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 1: we we we offer people, you know, lines and whatnot

1147
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: and I'm proud of that. I don't think there's anything

1148
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:19,479
Speaker 1: wrong with that. I don't think the state has any

1149
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: compelling interest in banning it. But of course, you know,

1150
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: we all have to be responsible actors as it relates

1151
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: to this. And again I don't know what the situations

1152
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: with jam James Cross. We're gonna have to wait and

1153
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: find out. I will say. The one thing that surprised

1154
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 1: me about all of this PC is that, as far

1155
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: as I can tell, only Bloody Elbow dot com had

1156
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 1: an article about it. I didn't see any I could

1157
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: be wrong if I am, by all means no en

1158
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: On top of this, Luke Mark ESPN did the story

1159
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: originally Mark Ramundy, and then there were some other ones

1160
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 1: as well. But the MMA sites, I think Junkie and

1161
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: Fighting I didn't see a single article about it. And

1162
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: to me, this is like a fairly important issue where

1163
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, just think about it rationally, right.

1164
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: Imagine someone hires a coach to do gambling picks for

1165
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: x UFC, say uf seasons, we're talking about it, x

1166
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,720
Speaker 1: UFC event, and it's like where where is the line

1167
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: being drawn here? And in one world you can be like, well,

1168
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: this is just harmless analysis, you know, make of it

1169
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: what you will. On the other side, it's like there

1170
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: is there's not enough. It seems to me. As this

1171
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: process gets going, I don't know that we have enough

1172
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: guard rails between guys using their knowledge to make money

1173
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: in very noble or otherwise you know, non pernicious ways,

1174
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: or as it relates to the other side, where it

1175
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: all becomes quite below board and potentially illegal or otherwise damaging.

1176
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: The line between them is not so clear. You're right

1177
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: to the US. He tried to introduce some language around that

1178
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: to create some barriers, and I think that helps. I

1179
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: don't think the job is done yet.

1180
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 2: I don't think the job is You need in any sport,

1181
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 2: you tend to need a major moment, whether it's like

1182
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 2: the Black Sox scandal of nineteen nineteen, or City College

1183
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 2: in New York college basketball betting scandal in the fifties,

1184
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 2: or you know Tim Donahey for the NBA. You need

1185
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 2: someone to push that wall down to remind you and

1186
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 2: let you know that you actually do need a wall,

1187
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 2: and you need him to be firm so you know

1188
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,439
Speaker 2: this is gonna end up good, because this this isn't

1189
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 2: look we're just this day. This is in some ways

1190
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 2: a day one situation for pro sports to be this

1191
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 2: tied into into gambling. Just you know, we're we got

1192
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 2: a football team in Vegas. We we're gonna get an

1193
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 2: NBA two, and we are at a level that I

1194
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 2: just imagine like total when we watch Total recall, we

1195
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 2: see the see the third, we see the third areola

1196
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 2: look where like dam First of all, the future is

1197
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 2: gonna be awesome, right, but beyond that, we're like, you know,

1198
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 2: I wonder, wow, imagine that you know, we're there, We're

1199
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 2: there on the Imagine that right now. So it's you're

1200
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 2: it's gonna take these type of scandals potentially to to

1201
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 2: find out where where the you know, where that wall

1202
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 2: is and where the where the where the rules extend to.

1203
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: But I mean, look, you just let's just imagine a scenario.

1204
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 1: Let's imagine I want to be clear about this, we

1205
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: are talking about something in theory. In theory, what if

1206
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: this investigation finds that there was some level whatever it means,

1207
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: impropriety around Kraus. So you're gonna be like banned from

1208
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: the sport, Like what could happen?

1209
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 2: Okay, So while that sounds extreme, you there are punishments

1210
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 2: handed out in situations like this to prevent it from

1211
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 2: ever happening again. So you go that. Look, there's the

1212
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 2: example of why, right, Pete Rose, Yes, there's the example

1213
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 2: of why you should never do it. We are going

1214
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 2: to drop the bomb on you to to scare everybody

1215
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 2: else if he's connected in some type of network were

1216
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 2: information is being passed like that and if this fight

1217
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 2: which well, by the way, just for fairness, not only

1218
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 2: men are latifi. A couple other fighters got they got fined, right,

1219
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 2: it was it was breaking news for uh not disclosing

1220
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 2: injuries to the state commissions. That's another good step to

1221
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 2: enforce that. But yeah, I don't know where I was

1222
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 2: gonna land this plane, Luke, But let me just what happen?

1223
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: What could happen if they find that something below board happened.

1224
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 2: I guarantee you they're going to drop the bomb. Does

1225
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 2: that bomb mean you are banned from the sport? I

1226
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 2: don't know how. I don't know how you regulate that.

1227
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 2: But you know, specifically, Beyonce, you know you're not allowed

1228
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 2: in our buildings. But there's something potentially very bad that

1229
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 2: could happen here. So let's hope for Kross's sake that

1230
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 2: this was just a one off, weird coincidence. But uh yeah, Luke,

1231
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 2: I mean you you wouldn't want I mean, look at

1232
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 2: you know, Tim Donna's never gonna walk into an MBA

1233
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 2: arena again, right, and there's a reason for that.

1234
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, well okay, but that was like chronic malfeasons.

1235
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,919
Speaker 2: I mean, right, let's hope that this isn't right. Let's

1236
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 2: hope that.

1237
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: By the way, just to put my cards on the table,

1238
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: Krauss called me like a year ago, uh and asked

1239
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: if I wanted to be the host of that podcast.

1240
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: I just didn't time.

1241
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 2: Wow, they could be you could have been subpoena, Luke.

1242
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: Could have been could have been subpoena. But I didn't

1243
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: have time. I didn't have any interest, So I pli'.

1244
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 2: I mean, but no reason to debate anymore in these gyms.

1245
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 2: Who's sleeping with who? This gambling thing is front page news?

1246
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: Luke? You know, all right, you're just the worst. You're

1247
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: the worst human in America. All right, let's uh finish

1248
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: our top five here if we can BC with one championship.

1249
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: They had their prime one. I gotta hate the naming convention.

1250
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: One on Prime Video four on Friday night, and I

1251
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: gotta say, BC, we keep telling people these one cards, dude,

1252
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: they're not bad. They're not bad at all. They're pretty quality.

1253
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: This one delivered, and your main event, Christian Lee becomes

1254
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: a double champ beating I'm not even pronounce the guy's

1255
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: first name, but Abasov. So I had to come back,

1256
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: isn't it.

1257
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 2: It was like it looks like Kean Ryon, but it

1258
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 2: was actually like Cameron turns out, look okay.

1259
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know how to exactly.

1260
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 1: I can't I can't quit it, get it right, and

1261
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: I don't listen to the commentary very often, so I

1262
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: missed it. Uh BC, amazing fight. Lee gets dropped bad.

1263
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: I was surprised herb Dean didn't even stop it. Then

1264
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: the fight slows down in the middle rounds, and then

1265
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: round four, Christian Lee comes out and just sticks it

1266
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: to Abasov, getting two enormous belts as a consequence. How

1267
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: good is Christian Lee?

1268
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 2: Really good? Really good? I don't know the ceiling. I

1269
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 2: don't know how far he can take it. Because let's

1270
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 2: not forget the reason why this fight was so much

1271
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 2: fun at the end of the day was because Abasov

1272
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 2: missweit and wasn't allowed to win his title. But he

1273
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 2: knows he needed a win and a big statement to

1274
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 2: be able to go back and fight for his title

1275
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 2: once again. So he came out with a chip on

1276
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 2: his shoulder as the bigger fighter and put Christian Lee

1277
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 2: through hell to get to this eventual victory right here.

1278
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 2: I mean, look, the first two rounds were mayhem, and

1279
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 2: Lee took the brunt of that for the most part,

1280
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 2: although you saw the beginning of that rallying spirit in

1281
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 2: him at the end of the first and certainly through

1282
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 2: the second. Look the amount of the chin he showed,

1283
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 2: the durability the comeback. Already the champion one division lower,

1284
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 2: but to step up and take this opportunity. Look Chatrian

1285
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 2: Company over there at one. Every promotion needs something, they

1286
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 2: need that one hook to get you in to give

1287
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 2: it a try, or the reason to want more MMA

1288
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 2: in your life. This trend recently that he's doing of

1289
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 2: so many of these one fight cards are headlined by

1290
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 2: champion versus champion fights, whether it's so you know, somebody

1291
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 2: moving up or moving down and trying to go greatness

1292
01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 2: and what it's producing is insane batshit efforts right now

1293
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 2: here can Christian Lee sustain this, get into brawls like

1294
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 2: this and be the last man standing? Probably not long term?

1295
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 2: How good is he? Though? He showed me so much

1296
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 2: in this fight to stand through that level of punishment,

1297
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 2: make the adjustments and then just start putting it on

1298
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 2: the bigger fighter. I don't know if it's a gimmick

1299
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 2: of trend or whatever, but a lot of guys are

1300
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 2: given the chance in this promotion once they win a

1301
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 2: title to look across the line at another division and

1302
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 2: pick out whoever you can make the best fight with,

1303
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 2: and usually that's champion versus champion, And we are seeing

1304
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 2: people go for it left and right. Christianly man man,

1305
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 2: I mean, look at what is he?

1306
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 1: Twenty four twenty four, We had two twenty four year

1307
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: olds claim titles over the weekend.

1308
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, they give you the chance there

1309
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 2: to potentially get noticed and be a star. He's taking

1310
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 2: that opportunity. What else? What could you say about this?

1311
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 2: Look he went through hell and back to get this.

1312
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, here's my biggest takeaway. He's raw. He's

1313
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 1: raw in terms of his BBIL. He's clearly got a

1314
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 1: lot of ability, but a lot of you know, he's

1315
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,479
Speaker 1: a little bit loose here at times, and that caused

1316
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: him some problems early. Although Abasov is obviously quite gifted

1317
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,919
Speaker 1: as well. I would say that at twenty four he's

1318
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 1: a double champ. He showed unbelievable gritin determination, and I

1319
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 1: will say I loved his striking where he was constantly

1320
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: threatening side to side action. He would throw a high

1321
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: kick up to the left and then a body shot

1322
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: to the right, so he was corralling him and cornering

1323
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: him but going sort of you know, high low, left, right,

1324
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: top middle. He was constantly playing with the location of

1325
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: his strikes, both to be different and to control his opponent,

1326
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: and it worked to beautiful affect those elbows at in

1327
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: the fourth round to then start the finish. I mean,

1328
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: he clearly has a ton of upside. It's just even

1329
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: though he's a double champ, it's still a little bit

1330
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: hard to say exactly how far he can go. But

1331
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: his resume already is remarkable. His again, the level of

1332
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 1: determination it took. Even said in the post fight interview

1333
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: that with Mitch Chilson that he like he didn't even

1334
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: know where he was when he was getting hit. I

1335
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: was amazing that Herb Dean didn't stop it.

1336
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 2: He was out on his feet to what wrong was that?

1337
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: Was it? The first round round he was one one.

1338
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 2: He's not even throwing punches. Look, he was doing like

1339
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 2: that teen wolf dance at the end and they couldn't.

1340
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 1: He got He barely hung on with like a lazy

1341
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: like you know best he could do, just hold on

1342
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: to him kind of shot and then eventually controlled it

1343
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: and got back. The thing was Abasov's weight cut fucked

1344
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: him big time. He didn't have hardly energy, any energy

1345
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: after the second round.

1346
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 2: And that's why he came out just just like look,

1347
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come out and knock you out and make

1348
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 2: a big statement. And he would have knocked the most

1349
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,919
Speaker 2: people out with that effort because he's a hulking puncher. Look,

1350
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 2: I do want to ask you sort of this this

1351
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,439
Speaker 2: thing there, there's a bit of a electricity and one

1352
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 2: that's different. Not only is this a promotion that's emanating

1353
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 2: from the other side of the world, but you know,

1354
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 2: we talked about how you can feel the busheto spirit

1355
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 2: coming through your screen. You don't see a lot of

1356
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 2: trash talk. You don't see a lot of I don't

1357
01:03:58,480 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 2: want to say you don't see a lot of gimmicks.

1358
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 2: You do see some, you know, Asia fanfare. In the

1359
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 2: way fights are presented, it's much more theatrical, But you

1360
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 2: don't see the type of stuff that American fight promotions

1361
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 2: throw at you. Yet the fights are crazy or just

1362
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 2: as crazy, if not crazier. Here, what is fueling that

1363
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 2: that sort of magic that one can show more often

1364
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 2: than not, that these two people are gonna like fight

1365
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 2: to the death to win this thing.

1366
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: I think partly it's a little bit of luck, to

1367
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 1: be quite honestly, it's a little bit of luck. I

1368
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 1: think also they don't have a ton of like American

1369
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: style wrestlers, you know, whose whole bit is just kind

1370
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: of grind you out.

1371
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 2: They don't.

1372
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 1: They don't have any John Fitch types, right, not not

1373
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 1: many of them anyway, So I think that's part of it.

1374
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: I will say this too, and again, we took a dump.

1375
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: I took a dump one one on Friday for their

1376
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: silly weight cutting system that people have put an enormous

1377
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: amount of false confidence in. However, However, in fairness to them, dude,

1378
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 1: their ruleset is better, like if you hurt someone and

1379
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 1: they scramble to their hands and knees to get away,

1380
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 1: you can drill them right in the head with a knee.

1381
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: It makes the stakes of that way, way, way way

1382
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: more dangerous at any moment, and so it creates a

1383
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: little bit more drama, a little bit more theater. So

1384
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: I think between having less guys who are interested in

1385
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 1: that sort of grinding top control wrestle pressure, and then

1386
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 1: on top of it a better rule set that drives action,

1387
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: you just tend to get a little bit more magic

1388
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: as a consequence.

1389
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 2: Right now, the magic's flowing. So shout out to what

1390
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 2: the Rod Tank fight in the co main event was.

1391
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 2: You know good, was Multai theater at its best. Look,

1392
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 2: we're gonna get into it. And have you seen this

1393
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 2: shit about Oscar Willis MacLife MMA journalist turned insane amateur

1394
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 2: fight taker, and he was in a three round war.

1395
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 2: I didn't know what was gonna happen. He has a

1396
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 2: certain level of respect now like e Casey Lighten when

1397
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 2: the fighters look at him. That's just different now because

1398
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 2: he went down to the to the to the red

1399
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 2: light district with him and put his heart on the line.

1400
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 2: If I somewhat similar, but you might disagree. Enter season

1401
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 2: two of one Championship Apprentice edition and I win the

1402
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 2: job with Chatri. What will the MMA industry think of

1403
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 2: me after that? Like we're about to praise Oscar Willis's

1404
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 2: crazy balls, what will they be saying about me?

1405
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: Tawtrey is fucked now that he has to work with you?

1406
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 2: All right, all right, look that's that's fine. But him

1407
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 2: and I could tear up Singapore together.

1408
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: You probably could. You probably could. But Christian Lee, you're

1409
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 1: double champ now lightweight and welterweight.

1410
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 2: Romote. Did you see what's her name on the grappling

1411
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 2: under Carluke Danielle Kelly Kelsey. She got a great win

1412
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 2: and then she responded some trash talk from Angela Lee,

1413
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:48,439
Speaker 2: And now they're considering hyping up some like grappling super Fighter.

1414
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 2: Are you into that at all?

1415
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 1: I You know, I've often said this, like anytime they

1416
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 1: put pro grappler versus pro MMA fighter, it's not there's

1417
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 1: not a lot of mystery about what's about to fucking

1418
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 1: happen here. It's why all these fights about MMA fighters

1419
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 1: versus boxers are just silly. It's like there's not a

1420
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 1: lot of mystery about what's gonna happen here. Uh, to

1421
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 1: be quite honest with you, so yeah, I think Daniel

1422
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 1: Kelly will if it's a jiu jitsu match, we'll beat

1423
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 1: the fucking shit out of her. Like, I don't think

1424
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 1: it'll be close at all, But you know, change the

1425
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 1: rules a little bit and it's a different situation, right,

1426
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 1: Like if you.

1427
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 2: Do some kind of rod Tang versus Demetrius type like

1428
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 2: gimmick rules per round or something, I don't.

1429
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, if you did that, it might get a

1430
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 1: little bit different. But even then that was I mean

1431
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 1: you talked about one doesn't have gimmicks. That's the That's

1432
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 1: an old gimmick, not even a new one.

1433
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 2: And I'm trying to catch up on what I've missed

1434
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 2: in one. I just watched the Angela last stamp fair

1435
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 2: text fight. Look that was wild. This ship man, this, this,

1436
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 2: I don't know, dude, them there. I'm like, like that

1437
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 2: damn smart cage in trapping me last year for my feels,

1438
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 2: although I don't know if I've reciprocated them back this season.

1439
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 2: I'm I'm getting high off the supply here lately on one.

1440
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 2: But we'll see what it's.

1441
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 1: Gonna have its work cut out for one of those

1442
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 1: pay per view buys don't come in.

1443
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 2: I mean, how smart is your if they can't get

1444
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 2: in front of that and be like, hey, guys, not

1445
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 2: a good idea here. Our numbers are telling us that. Yeah,

1446
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 2: all right.

1447
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 1: Well, by the way, before we transition to DMS, I

1448
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: want to do this I forgot to do at the

1449
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: end of the Bellatoor segment. Should you be interested in

1450
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: more Belatore content? And remember we have two more events

1451
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 1: just this Sorry, we have two more events just this month,

1452
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 1: or I should say before the year is over, December ninth,

1453
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 1: Belatore two eighty nine. I believe, I don't know, it's

1454
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 1: not official yet. I believe I'll be there for fight week.

1455
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 1: I think you will be for just a little bit

1456
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 1: as well. This, of course is the raffion statts Danny Sabatela,

1457
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: who by the way, they were there on Friday night

1458
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,879
Speaker 1: yelling at each other. That was funny. Yeah. Liz Carmush

1459
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 1: is gonna rematch against Juliana Velaskeez and then PATCHI mix

1460
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 1: for the other side of the band, Someway brought bracket

1461
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 1: against maccamed Maga Madoff, so that's gonna be interesting.

1462
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 2: Let's just say it. Belatour's on fire right now. That

1463
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:49,680
Speaker 2: was a Friday Night's card, had one of those like

1464
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 2: old school Coker tent pull poll Field. You know, it

1465
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 2: feels to it in terms of the top end of it.

1466
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 2: You're gonna do another one that night you just mentioned.

1467
01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 2: December ninth, you got the Bellatore versus Rizk card New

1468
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,759
Speaker 2: Year's Eve, right is promotion versus promotion. And then around

1469
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 2: the Horn you're gonna come back on February fourth on

1470
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 2: CBS for fad Or Beat two along with Nemcov versus Romero.

1471
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 2: Dude shits eating up.

1472
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're having a good end of the year, good

1473
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 1: start to the next year. And by the way, we

1474
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 1: don't know yet official so this is not Luke telling

1475
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 1: you official Showtime news. But my understanding is the belt

1476
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 1: or Mma versus Rise And event won't be aired live

1477
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 1: on Showtime. It will air sometime later that next day

1478
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: at a time that is, you know, you know, more

1479
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Speaker 1: suitable for American audiences. I think that's my understanding, but

1480
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 1: that's not an official proclamation, all right, So there you

1481
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 1: have it.

1482
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 2: BC.

1483
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 1: That's it for my top five one to remind folks,

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01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 1: we're getting closer to the end of the month, and

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01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 1: you know what that means. It's almost time to select

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01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 1: the first ever money Lion Hammer of the Month for

1487
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 1: those of you who have missed it. A few weeks back,

1488
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 1: we decided we wanted to start spotlighting under card fighters

1489
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 1: who aren't getting the recognition they deserve bce our new sponsor,

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01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 1: money Line Greed. So we came up with Hammer of

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01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,639
Speaker 1: the Month, which invites you, guys, the viewers, to nominate

1492
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 1: which undercard fighters blew your fing mind and deserve to

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01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 1: be rewarded for it. You can go to moneylon dot

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Speaker 1: com slash Morning Combat to learn more. Bc anyone on

1495
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 1: your radar related to this particular week.

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01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 2: I mean, is Vanessa Demopolis will allowed to be on

1497
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 2: my Hammer of the Month.

1498
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 1: But I was wondering if you were going to say that,

1499
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 1: yes the end, I mean.

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01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 2: We're gonna see a lot of her and have you

1501
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 2: seen this shit? But that was actually like a really

1502
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 2: good win for her. She's starting to put together three

1503
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 2: in a row. You know, I loved this month has

1504
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 2: produced a lot. I'm trying to think of who else. Look,

1505
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 2: you know who I thought might enter this conversation again

1506
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 2: was Roman Ferraldo on the Belator part at eighty.

1507
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 1: People were killing me because they're like, I bet based

1508
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 1: on you. Like, first of all, don't bet based on

1509
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 1: anything I tell you, not a good idea number one,

1510
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:49,480
Speaker 1: number two. I also thought he fought. He looked frustrated

1511
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 1: to me. I don't think he fought up to his potential. Now,

1512
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 1: levon Chokoly, you could add to Hammer of the month

1513
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 1: because he had a really hey in fact, did have

1514
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 1: a smart win.

1515
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 2: Well, you know, widely frustrate for all though, who once

1516
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 2: for all thought realize that like Chokely is not going

1517
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 2: anywhere if you if you unload on him, and this

1518
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 2: is gonna be a sloppy war. It was like a

1519
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 2: fight or flight moment in Ferraldo. I don't take anything

1520
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 2: away from him. He chose fight and he just went

1521
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 2: for it. But when you don't get the finish and

1522
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 2: your gas tanks down to nothing and you haven't been

1523
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 2: in this type of fight at this level, that's when

1524
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 2: you look. That's when you start to expose the things

1525
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 2: that you typically can only add through experience. This will

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01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 2: end up being a huge experience for Roman for all

1527
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 2: those future. But man he seemed to unload the kitchen

1528
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 2: sink and chocally kept coming. So that that is a

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01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 2: Hammer of the Month worthy performance out of late What

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01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 2: is his name? Levon? He shall be a good man,

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01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 2: all right?

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01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:44,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, by the way, Sullivan Cawley, Sullivan Cawley was

1533
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 1: on the prelim card, matched up with an enormously jacked opponent, right,

1534
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 1: I was like, holy fuck, and both were undefeated heading

1535
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 1: into it. I forget the guy's name, but Sullivan Cawley,

1536
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 1: his opponent, tried to take his back very inadvisably didn't

1537
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 1: set it up well at all. Misses. It ends up

1538
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 1: on bottom and Sullivan Cully with two fucking shots completely

1539
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 1: put his lights out. Terrifying ground pass.

1540
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 2: How about Daniel what was his name? What was the

1541
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 2: guy's name?

1542
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:15,719
Speaker 1: Daniel Janiel James on the main card.

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01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 2: Yep, dude, he's like a bodyguard to a famous rapper forty.

1544
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: Years hold a bodyguard to twist.

1545
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just goes out there, and you know, Tyrol

1546
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,640
Speaker 2: Fortune looked like he was you know, he's he's had

1547
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 2: a couple of blumishes, but he looked like he was

1548
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 2: on his way to getting that title shot. And dude,

1549
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 2: he ran into somebody who was hungry. Ready you'll see

1550
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 2: him as well. And have you seen this?

1551
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 1: So that dude looked like Daniel James is old, he's

1552
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: like forty one or something. Yeah, but that dude looks

1553
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 1: fucking big man, he's like six yeh yeah, he's a

1554
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 1: fucking big dude. You know.

1555
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 2: So look you know at money Line on Twitter, at

1556
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 2: money Line Inc. On Instagram, hashtag Hammer of the Month,

1557
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 2: holy hammer Ball's bonanza. Hey, whatever you want to hash

1558
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 2: it out, hashish legalized, whatever you want to do. I'm

1559
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,799
Speaker 2: sure Moneyline Hammer of the Month is ready, Luke, somebody's

1560
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 2: gonna win that big ass hammer. Okay, I can't wait

1561
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 2: to see who.

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01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, with that in mind, BC, it's time

1563
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 1: for the d MS. Let's see what we got. Let's

1564
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 1: let's let's see what our male viewers are asking us.

1565
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 2: We've got mail, yes, mostly male viewers named three female fans.

1566
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:21,759
Speaker 2: Go ahead, hold on look name three female MK fans

1567
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 2: go go uh j Piqatt's wife, don yeah, the boss lady.

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01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 1: You uh let me think, hold on, hold on, hold on,

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01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 1: hold on.

1570
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 2: Oh.

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01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 1: Another one emailed me. I can't say her last name

1572
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:34,799
Speaker 1: because I don't want to give it away. But uh,

1573
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,640
Speaker 1: Sasha is another one who emailed me. She emailed me

1574
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 1: over the weekend.

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01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 2: Is a real person, Luca, is this an invitation to Uh?

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01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, she's she she okay, she is

1577
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 1: tired of hearing you and me complain how pathetic we are.

1578
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:57,719
Speaker 1: And she goes, if she was upset about it, fucking

1579
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 1: do something about it, like fair, fair. But she gave

1580
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 1: constructive advice about what her husband had done, who's a

1581
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 1: similar age to you and me, to get right, So

1582
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 1: I appreciate it involved TRT. It did, as a matter

1583
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 1: of fact, it did viagra. No, it didn't involve viagra,

1584
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 1: just TRT and some other stuff too. But there's that,

1585
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, I couldn't name a third.

1586
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,759
Speaker 2: All right, all right, shout out to Melissa loves Nachos.

1587
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 2: I think she's going to Brazil for the big card,

1588
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 2: the pay per view card coming up World Traveler.

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01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 1: There, Luke, Hey, I wish I had the time and

1590
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:35,919
Speaker 1: the money, all right? From at Jack Craig double Underscore,

1591
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 1: worst name ever. The Superman jab was one of GSP's

1592
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 1: best weapons, and he seemed like he couldn't miss with

1593
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 1: it for his entire career. Why haven't more people incorporated

1594
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,560
Speaker 1: that strike into their game. Such a difficult shot to

1595
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: see coming because you have to leave your feet. It's

1596
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 1: not so easy to do. It's very, very difficult to

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01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 1: do it.

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01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, look why Yeah, I don't, I don't know why. Look,

1599
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 2: I mean you could see it coming, right people. I

1600
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 2: mean it's it's this well disguised strike, but it became

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01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 2: so regularly used, right.

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01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, But it's like any other thing. You have to

1603
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: learn how to blend it into the rest of your game.

1604
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 1: You have to learn how to do it correctly. You

1605
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 1: have to keep your elevation low. You still have to

1606
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 1: leave your feet to do it. George Saint Pierre would

1607
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 1: do it in a way where sometimes he would do

1608
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:18,879
Speaker 1: it just a cover distance to then land an outside

1609
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 1: low kick, so he would pump it, get back to

1610
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 1: stance and then fire and chop. You know, he would

1611
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:28,719
Speaker 1: do that. But you know it's like it's not because

1612
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 1: one guy makes it work well doesn't mean that it

1613
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 1: would work well for everyone, or that everyone wants to

1614
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,639
Speaker 1: do that kind of thing. It's a perfectly good strike,

1615
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 1: but it's not some kind of strike that's so good,

1616
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 1: so amazing that if you don't have it. You don't

1617
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 1: have complete striking. Have we ever seen in at least

1618
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 1: in the UFC, Potata or Izzy throw a Superman strike

1619
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 1: like maybe once or twice at most between them, not really,

1620
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: And yet you can see they have very complete games,

1621
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 1: so it certainly can be valuable. So it's perfectly fine

1622
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:59,640
Speaker 1: as a technique. But folks think of techniques as like

1623
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 1: these are good techniques, these are bad techniques. And yes,

1624
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 1: there are some that are more high percentage than others,

1625
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:06,759
Speaker 1: and there are some that are done incorrectly. But among

1626
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,680
Speaker 1: the universe of correctly done ones, you don't need all

1627
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 1: of them. You just need the ones that are best

1628
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 1: for you.

1629
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:15,600
Speaker 2: So look, real question here, What if GSP and I

1630
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 2: right now switched lives, meaning all the things I do

1631
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:20,719
Speaker 2: or don't do for my body and intake and injest,

1632
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 2: and all the things he does for his body every

1633
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 2: single day, we switched it completely, We slept in each

1634
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 2: other's houses. Who would tap first? Meaning that like that

1635
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 2: lifestyle was just killing them? You know what I mean?

1636
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 2: Would it be me early on in the fitness or

1637
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:37,720
Speaker 2: him once the delta's in the in the food, in

1638
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 2: the in this you know this the Senate lifestyle just

1639
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 2: just caught up with his mental health and then he's like,

1640
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:44,640
Speaker 2: I got to get out of this.

1641
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think he would quit after like five cheeseburgers.

1642
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 1: He'd be like, what the fuck am I doing with

1643
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 1: my well?

1644
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 2: I don't have that anymore because of my liver, luke, Okay.

1645
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 1: After two late nights ordering S I. E. And Pat Tie,

1646
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 1: he'd just be like, fuck.

1647
01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:59,839
Speaker 2: All this, that's accurate. That is accurate.

1648
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 1: Next, let's see I do like I'll sell you late

1649
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:06,640
Speaker 1: at night though it's good? All right? What do we

1650
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 1: got from Treks Underscore thirty eighth again? Worst name ever?

1651
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 1: Would Kimbo Slice have been the king of BKFC? Fucking

1652
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 1: great question? Shame the timelines didn't cross BC. I'm gonna

1653
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 1: say no, because I think after the Gannon fight he

1654
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 1: was really never the same, To be quite honest with.

1655
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 2: You, Yeah, I think we came over the look like

1656
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 2: we always talk about, like a crazy war. You know,

1657
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 2: think UFC five rounds, twenty five minutes, when it takes

1658
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 2: off your life Hendo versus Showgun one, those type of fights,

1659
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 2: you're like, oh God, Corlis Castile, they'll never be the same,

1660
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 2: but thank you for that. Theater dude, that Sean Gannon

1661
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 2: fight became like life or death. That battle that was

1662
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 2: like insane, right, it was like a half hour or an

1663
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 2: hour or something, and it.

1664
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 1: Was just like just it just killed each other basically,

1665
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 1: Yeah until until I'm told. I'm told I'm told people

1666
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 1: who were there of that fight, and like it knew

1667
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 1: him afterwards that Sean Gannon was never the same afterwards,

1668
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 1: Like both of those guys left that shit fucked up.

1669
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, yeah, I mean their face. Gannon's face

1670
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 2: was just I mean, I can't like what you know,

1671
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 2: nothing will ever compare. Obviously, when we first all got

1672
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 2: into Kimbo and that was like YouTube was just on

1673
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 2: the scene and we all stuck to him because it

1674
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 2: felt grimy. It was like it was a fight that

1675
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 2: felt like watching gross porn, right, But that Sean Gannon

1676
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 2: fight was That's that's probably the end for him of

1677
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,720
Speaker 2: that feeling like that was as gross and grimy watching that.

1678
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 2: Remember that I watched that a million times though. It's

1679
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 2: like watching somebody get executed. It was like faces of death,

1680
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 2: of fighting. It was just grimy warehouse. I mean.

1681
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 1: But the answer about Kimbo, dude, I mean, dude, Kimbo

1682
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 1: could obviously slung the dogs, you know, but Chin was

1683
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 1: not elite, So I don't think so do we have.

1684
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 2: Full proof of that? Always thought gas tank was always

1685
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:48,719
Speaker 2: his issue.

1686
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 1: Now he did have a lot of spirit because he's

1687
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 1: like two minute rounds. I mean, I'm not here to

1688
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 1: say like, oh, Kimbo had a bad chin. That's not

1689
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But he didn't have There wasn't much

1690
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 1: evidence he had a super elite one, And I just

1691
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 1: feel like, could be can'tc you get some guy who

1692
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:03,640
Speaker 1: you know, would just have a kind of tolerance for

1693
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 1: that sort of thing that I don't. Also, by the

1694
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:08,679
Speaker 1: time he got folks forget this too. By the time

1695
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 1: he got popular, he was kind of old. His knees

1696
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:11,720
Speaker 1: were fucked from like day one.

1697
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know, yeah.

1698
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't like they got cam at twenty

1699
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 1: one or something.

1700
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of time where he got outside

1701
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 2: of the Petrozelli quick knockout. I'm trying to think of

1702
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,879
Speaker 2: a time in MMA where he got hurt from strikes

1703
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 2: that wasn't related to exhaustion, where we could even comment

1704
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 2: about the chin.

1705
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 1: Let me, we're not forget it. Oh dude, I mean

1706
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 1: he got hurt from a lot of different ones total.

1707
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 1: Let me pull up his resume here real quick, since

1708
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:36,759
Speaker 1: I'm going off memory, and that's.

1709
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 2: Not I mean that Shamrock fight became a became I

1710
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 2: mean the Dota. I mean, come on, these are late

1711
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 2: modelfight but even prime like.

1712
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 1: Obviously Mittrione whooped him. Mittrion whooped him. And then I

1713
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 1: was at the James Thompson fight. You know he was

1714
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 1: getting hit with big shots of there too. Again, not

1715
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 1: like it's a bad chin And you're right, Cardio also

1716
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 1: played a role there.

1717
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:58,680
Speaker 2: A monster like a monster.

1718
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 1: But like you know, when it came U, when it

1719
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 1: came time to to go mono imano like that, And

1720
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 1: there's a lot of times where he just couldn't he

1721
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 1: couldn't keep it, keep up with it for either exhaustion

1722
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 1: or damage related reasons. Dude, again, I was he was

1723
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 1: Kimber when he died. Hold on, Kimbo was Kimba was

1724
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 1: forty two. God, it was forty two when he died.

1725
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 2: Jesus, dude, I watched that. I watched the build and

1726
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 2: the actual fight to when he fought Ray Mercer and

1727
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:28,719
Speaker 2: that mixed rules fight like I was so dialed into

1728
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:31,599
Speaker 2: that being a boxing guy who also discovered Kimbo like Luke.

1729
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 2: That was also as low level as against that that

1730
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 2: fight that build to that.

1731
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 1: Sort of it was Cage Fury Fighting Championships. It was regional.

1732
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 1: It was just you know, it was a MMA like debut.

1733
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:43,839
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying it felt it felt like county

1734
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 2: fair level. Uh you know, professionalism. I mean I think

1735
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 2: Colonel Bob was calling it. I mean it was you know,

1736
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 2: it was yeah, like it could they could have had

1737
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 2: it at a diner, is really what I'm saying. Look,

1738
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 2: you know, like in the.

1739
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 1: Back, Yeah, yeah, I could have it could have. All right,

1740
01:20:56,560 --> 01:21:01,679
Speaker 1: let's go to the next one from Pat McCain. Thirty four,

1741
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:03,679
Speaker 1: not the worst name, but not a great one. Who

1742
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 1: wins in a three round fight. Oscar Willis or c

1743
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 1: him Punk?

1744
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 2: Did you watch him entire fight? Did you?

1745
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 1: I watched I watched a couple of rounds. I didn't

1746
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 1: see the whole thing.

1747
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 2: Okay, let's break it. I mean we're gonna we're gonna

1748
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 2: break down his fight, his fighting style, and have you

1749
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 2: seen this ship when we see a little bit of it?

1750
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 2: But uh, dude, see him Punk sucked, but he did.

1751
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:25,639
Speaker 2: He was all in and he seemed to train hard

1752
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 2: on the wrestling part of it. I mean he wasn't.

1753
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 1: You know, Oscar Willis is chieky tico. He's a little man.

1754
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 1: You know.

1755
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 2: Oscar Willis had a fighting will. I mean he was

1756
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 2: willing to go after it. I think C. M. Punk

1757
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 2: would would take him down and control it.

1758
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he would would. Okay, but you know who's

1759
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 1: got the moxie. Oscar Willis got that moxie.

1760
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, he's at another level in terms of

1761
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 2: his willingness to roll the life dice and I can

1762
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 2: respect that. Okay.

1763
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:55,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's fist fighting cages and banging midgets. I mean,

1764
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 1: the guy's a complete the general I.

1765
01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 2: Don't know any part of what you're talking about, that ladder.

1766
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:00,000
Speaker 2: I don't even know.

1767
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 1: He did a podcast with Dan Hooker where he talked

1768
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 1: about banging Excuse me, I shouldn't say that, banging little people.

1769
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even think you should say anything related

1770
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:11,759
Speaker 2: to that. But that's you know, wow, that's a yeah, don't.

1771
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 1: I'm not revealing private information. This is all like they do.

1772
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 2: Basically room service diaries European edition, right or yeah, something

1773
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 2: like that.

1774
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:24,400
Speaker 1: Well, Dan Hooker's from New Zealand, but yeah, strange accent edition.

1775
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 2: Anyway, do do Australians and New Zealanders love each other?

1776
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 2: Like we just assume because they're down on the other

1777
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 2: side of the world next to each other.

1778
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 1: Tend to think that, Like, there obviously are some rivalries,

1779
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 1: Like I know, when the All Blacks play, what's the

1780
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:42,639
Speaker 1: what's the team name for the national team for Australia,

1781
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:44,639
Speaker 1: it's not the spring Box that South Africa, but whatever?

1782
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,640
Speaker 1: When they play, there is uh, you know, it's a

1783
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 1: fair amount of consternation and whatnot. But I tend to

1784
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 1: think there is some solidarity between them.

1785
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:53,720
Speaker 2: Oh you know what was lost in the Have you

1786
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 2: seen the ship purge this week? Did you see those

1787
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 2: videos with Gordon Ryan and Jason Momoa wearing like wearing

1788
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 2: like hank chiefs over their dongs? Look you see that? No?

1789
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:03,720
Speaker 1: I did not. That's a real thing.

1790
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 2: People won't see it this week because I lost all

1791
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 2: all my links for a full week. I mean I

1792
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 2: was devastated, devastated.

1793
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 1: Luke okay. Uh. The Australian rugby team, oh they're called

1794
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 1: the Wallabies. Not a very uh you know, not a

1795
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 1: very intimidating name, if I can be honest. Okay, right,

1796
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 1: all right? Next? Uh from how do you pronounce these

1797
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:38,599
Speaker 1: Irish names? It's like shearing sharn. I'm just gonna say sharn. Uh. Yeah,

1798
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:40,720
Speaker 1: who do you think will win the World Cup? I

1799
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:43,599
Speaker 1: don't know, some fucking dude. This World Cup is gross

1800
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 1: as ship.

1801
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not gonna watch a second of it. Not

1802
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 2: because soccer sucks. I mean, obviously I'm into World Cups.

1803
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 2: I'm into super elite soccer.

1804
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 1: When the cross the World Cup is not the best

1805
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:54,440
Speaker 1: tournament in soccer.

1806
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 2: Like no, I agree with that. And whenever the crossover

1807
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 2: mainstream vortex is pulling me in for some major reason,

1808
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 2: I watch it. It's great, but I don't care about

1809
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,719
Speaker 2: this shit at all. But that's not political political related.

1810
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:06,599
Speaker 2: I'm just you know, I'm in my own world. Luke,

1811
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 2: are you really gonna go the distance and not watch

1812
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 2: one second of them? Going back to one of your hometown.

1813
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 1: See here's the problem. It's not possible for me to

1814
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:16,720
Speaker 1: avoid it because my entire Twitter feed is full of

1815
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 1: like like, I follow all these soccer journalists and all

1816
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 1: these soccer outlets, like I am getting it no matter

1817
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:25,640
Speaker 1: what am I sitting down to watch? No, that's what

1818
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 1: I'm not doing. I'm not sitting down to watch. It's

1819
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 1: fucking it's it's it's beyond gross, Like thousands and thousands

1820
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 1: and thousands of poor people died to make these stadiums.

1821
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 1: The way that which they got here is because the

1822
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 1: whole system was corrupt and and they were bought and

1823
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:43,799
Speaker 1: paid for. I mean, the whole thing is absolutely fucking

1824
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 1: disgusting in every way. And then today James wid who

1825
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 1: James Krauss, Yeah, I don't think so, okay, but this

1826
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 1: is this is the part that just drives me. That's

1827
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 1: this is like a different cond kind of conversation. Like, listen,

1828
01:24:56,560 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 1: if athletes want to take up causes that matter to them,

1829
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:03,640
Speaker 1: I don't begrudge them that, but you always need to

1830
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 1: be careful about like, oh, well, the NBA supports X

1831
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 1: causes or why causes because it's clearly very important to them. No,

1832
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 1: people will take up progressive causes just to make or

1833
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say people organization excuse me, will take up

1834
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:21,800
Speaker 1: causes just to make themselves look good. So I don't

1835
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 1: know if you saw the controversy that happened just today,

1836
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 1: like hours ago BC where all of the so the

1837
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 1: captain of the various teams, they wear an armband to

1838
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:32,839
Speaker 1: designate who is the captain when they're playing on the field,

1839
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 1: and the ones that they had all had for this

1840
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 1: tournament were like it was like one love and then

1841
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 1: had like think some of the gay pride colors in

1842
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:43,640
Speaker 1: the inside of a heart. And FIFA said, basically the

1843
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 1: request of Qatar that if any player wears that, they're

1844
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 1: going to get an automatic yellow card, and of course

1845
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 1: those can pile up, in which case you get you

1846
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 1: can get fined and then remove the matches. If you

1847
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:56,680
Speaker 1: get enough of them, it can it can be a

1848
01:25:56,720 --> 01:26:01,720
Speaker 1: competitive problem. And they all crumbled immediately. They all said, yeah,

1849
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 1: I have no problem. We're not gonna wear anymore. It's like, dude,

1850
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 1: I don't need you to wear that if that's not

1851
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 1: a thing you care about. But if you're going to

1852
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 1: promote these causes, then you have to promote the consequences

1853
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:13,839
Speaker 1: of these causes as well. You don't get to promote

1854
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:16,559
Speaker 1: them when it feels right to you, like all these

1855
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 1: like we are Disney, we care so much about corporate

1856
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 1: social responsibility. Shut the fuck up. You made that Mulan

1857
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:25,720
Speaker 1: remake in the same region where they're holding all the

1858
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 1: Weiger Muslims in, you know, in utterly indefensible conditions. All

1859
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 1: of this shit is so phony, it's so ridiculous. So

1860
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 1: on either side, I really just want no part of it,

1861
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 1: to be honest with you.

1862
01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 2: All Right, Well, Luke, by the way, the other day

1863
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 2: I took my kids to Wakanda Forever in three D?

1864
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 1: How is it?

1865
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:48,599
Speaker 2: It's one of the best movies I've ever seen.

1866
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:50,599
Speaker 1: And I, oh, get out of here with that.

1867
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:52,439
Speaker 2: I'm not okay, I'm not putting it up on the

1868
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 2: on the BC Fave All Time list with like nineteen

1869
01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:58,720
Speaker 2: seventeen and you know, The Deer Hunter and you know,

1870
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 2: uncut gems and beautiful girls and stuff like that, Luke,

1871
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 2: or Episode four or Rogue one. You know, my favorites

1872
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:09,680
Speaker 2: of all time, Tommy boy. But for what it is

1873
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 2: in that category, which is not a category I tend

1874
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 2: to live in outside of the Star Wars universe, it

1875
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:18,640
Speaker 2: was freaking awesome and it was one of those Now

1876
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:20,719
Speaker 2: so I saw it in three D, mind you, Okay?

1877
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:23,720
Speaker 2: So you know, you automatically feel like you're in the

1878
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 2: movie to begin with, right, especially if you're sitting in

1879
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 2: the eighth row. But I will also say, Luke, that

1880
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 2: like it made you. It was one of the It

1881
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:35,600
Speaker 2: reminded me of what it was like to watch a

1882
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 2: movie as a kid, when like you are sucked into

1883
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 2: like one of those in theater, you know, amazing life

1884
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 2: changing experiences. When you are sucked in, you'll know what

1885
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:45,719
Speaker 2: time it is, You'll know that you have a real life.

1886
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 2: You only know what's going on in that movie. It

1887
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 2: was great. And kamorrow Usman, Yes, Mikey kamorrow Usman was

1888
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 2: in it. He's got a cameo and he's awesome in it,

1889
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 2: Like Tyrone Woodley as sense Odell in the Cobra Kai

1890
01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 2: season five, which you'll never see, Luke.

1891
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 1: But we'll never see, dude.

1892
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 2: This was it was all live.

1893
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:04,759
Speaker 1: The teenagers are stupid and uninteresting.

1894
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I want to sit here and pick apart

1895
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 2: this or that, but I can't. Like, you know, it

1896
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 2: was top to front of.

1897
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 1: Bet so funny. A buddy of mine went, he's big

1898
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 1: in some marvel and you know love, I love the

1899
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 1: first Black Panther. I thought the first one was great,

1900
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 1: but he didn't like this one. He didn't like this one.

1901
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 1: I mean he didn't hate it. He didn't hate it,

1902
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 1: but he was like, it didn't have the majesty of

1903
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 1: the first one. Do you understand that at all?

1904
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 2: One of my so I've only seen I've seen the

1905
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 2: first one, but I saw it in like different at

1906
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 2: different times, in different pieces, so it kind of screws

1907
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 2: up to a degree. But one of my sons said, like,

1908
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:43,599
Speaker 2: best movie I've ever seen, Dad, And then the other

1909
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 2: twin said, yeah, it was good, but not as good

1910
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 2: as the first one. So you know, I was on

1911
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 2: the side of for this type of movie that's about

1912
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 2: as great as it can be. Like right there. I

1913
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 2: also don't live in this genre, as you know, and

1914
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 2: need to rewatch the first one to get really get it.

1915
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 2: But you know, to give you but these kids aren't reliable.

1916
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 2: They we went to Black Adam and I thought it

1917
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:04,599
Speaker 2: sucked and they both loved it.

1918
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 1: So you know, your kids they need some movie help.

1919
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 1: So let me get this straight. Were you Dad of

1920
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 1: the Year showing up to the movies high with your kids.

1921
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 2: No, that would never happen, Luke, But I would never

1922
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 2: do something like that. But we did, you know, I

1923
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 2: did a lot of We got Icy's inside Luke, it

1924
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 2: was that big of a flick, right, you know when

1925
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 2: it's a big flick, when you know it's gonna be

1926
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 2: a you know a thing.

1927
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 1: You know, you get the icy.

1928
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:24,759
Speaker 2: You got to buy the candy next door at Walgreens first,

1929
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:25,920
Speaker 2: and then you got to go and you got to

1930
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:27,599
Speaker 2: step up your game and get the big ass large

1931
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 2: icy and just go after this film, you know, and

1932
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:31,719
Speaker 2: and and you know, put the secret.

1933
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 1: They opened them. They opened a really nice movie theater

1934
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 1: in my neighborhood. Finally. Uh so, I've been meaning to

1935
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 1: go to it. I was gonna go one of my

1936
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 1: days off. My wife was like, I want to see

1937
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 1: that movie. Last question on on Will kind of Forever. Yes,

1938
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:49,679
Speaker 1: do they navigate the lack of Chadwick Boseman, Well.

1939
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:54,799
Speaker 2: Yes, both storyline wise. Uh you know, brief little cameo shots.

1940
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 2: They don't like bring them back to life like Luke

1941
01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 2: Skywalker or Carrie Fisher in the News and Star Wars ones.

1942
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:02,639
Speaker 2: But U yeah, and then there's there's there's a new character,

1943
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 2: the other sister who's played by that chick who was

1944
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 2: in Us. She was the star of that and she

1945
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 2: also won the Academy Award in the twelve years of

1946
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:13,519
Speaker 2: slave movie. Forgot her name, but she is tremendous. Luke

1947
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:16,639
Speaker 2: as in that role as well, So uh yeah, it's

1948
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 2: it's a dude again. Not my genre. This thing kicked

1949
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:21,600
Speaker 2: me right in the face right away. I knew I

1950
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 2: was in for something special. Okay, I'm in a good

1951
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:25,680
Speaker 2: run lately, Luke. Even Top Gun's part of that Run

1952
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:27,640
Speaker 2: the remake. I mean it's not you know, it's not

1953
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:29,639
Speaker 2: gonna win the Academy Award, but that was a great

1954
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 2: in theater experience. I'm picking the right ones, Luke. Okay,

1955
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 2: except for Black Adams starring the Run.

1956
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 1: The Top Gun in the theater was very much the

1957
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 1: right call. That was a great call. That was do

1958
01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:41,280
Speaker 1: you have any more? I think we have one more?

1959
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:45,759
Speaker 2: Wait, dude, Luke, did you ever? I forgot? Keep it going? Sorry,

1960
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 2: there you.

1961
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 1: Go from ohso al dacosol daco. What do you do

1962
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 1: dogs thankful for? What do you think? BC?

1963
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 2: Well, I think we should have probably have, like you know,

1964
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:01,120
Speaker 2: big picture items and then smaller ones, right. I mean,

1965
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:03,920
Speaker 2: you know, I'm thankful for my for my health, but

1966
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 2: really my family's health, you know, obviously the things that

1967
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:09,880
Speaker 2: really matter right in your life I'm my five animals, Luke.

1968
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:13,680
Speaker 2: I'm thankful as shit for them as well, but you know,

1969
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:17,559
Speaker 2: work wise, crossover wise, thankful that we have a fan

1970
01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 2: base that is that is as voracious and weird and

1971
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:27,280
Speaker 2: awesome and creative and loyal and honest, especially when they're like,

1972
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:29,800
Speaker 2: all right, guys, all right, I mean, I mean, how

1973
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 2: many more commercials does one show need, Luke? We have, Like, like,

1974
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:38,799
Speaker 2: that's why as much as we push to certain engagement goals, clicks,

1975
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:41,760
Speaker 2: subscriptions that obviously help us, and you know, yeah, I'll

1976
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:44,599
Speaker 2: push you to that too. Let's go get like and subscribe. Yeah,

1977
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 2: vote for us on that award so we can get

1978
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:50,400
Speaker 2: a live show out of it. Okay, cool. I don't

1979
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:54,080
Speaker 2: care about the numbers. I'm about quality. And you know,

1980
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:56,680
Speaker 2: we could have a hundred diehards, Luke, and maybe at

1981
01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:58,880
Speaker 2: some points in my podcasting career I only had one

1982
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:04,759
Speaker 2: hundred or a thousand die hards, right, these one hundred

1983
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:07,320
Speaker 2: and twenty something thousand, and maybe let's say, even if

1984
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:10,640
Speaker 2: you know a third of them are hardcore, they're hardcore

1985
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:14,639
Speaker 2: a shit Like I almost feel like if I posted

1986
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 2: randomly in the middle of the night on Twitter and

1987
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 2: was like I was just wronged by this person. You

1988
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 2: grab your your tree branch, light it on fire, and

1989
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 2: take them out for me. You know, I'm not trying

1990
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:27,920
Speaker 2: to say I'm trying to develop the MK proud boys.

1991
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 2: Look I'm not. But I feel like these people would

1992
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 2: show up in line with kidneys for me and I

1993
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 2: and I you know, and at least, you know, thought wise,

1994
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 2: maybe not in physical action, I would do the same

1995
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:38,320
Speaker 2: for them.

1996
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 1: Luke, Okay, that's a weird way to answer that question.

1997
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:47,280
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean I think it's not. My life

1998
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:52,599
Speaker 1: is not super complex or remarkable beyond the normal contours

1999
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:54,519
Speaker 1: of anyone else's life. So what am I thankful for?

2000
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:58,720
Speaker 1: Two things? Quite obviously, one, I am extremely lucky to have,

2001
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:01,679
Speaker 1: you know, my wife life in my life, my daughter

2002
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 1: who's like the center of my life frankly at this point,

2003
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:08,000
Speaker 1: and my family more generally, Like those things can all

2004
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:10,240
Speaker 1: be taken from you. We all, you know, we've lived

2005
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:12,920
Speaker 1: through a year where we lost Elias Theodoru and Anthony

2006
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 1: Rebel Johnson and like how you know, the how life

2007
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:18,840
Speaker 1: can be quite ephemeral in certain ways. So I'm very

2008
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:21,840
Speaker 1: grateful for that, and also do like it's hard to

2009
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:25,720
Speaker 1: maintain jobs in this industry. You know, it's hard, man,

2010
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:28,559
Speaker 1: It's hard year after year to be relevant. It's hard

2011
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:32,519
Speaker 1: to offer the kind of content people want. And I

2012
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:35,600
Speaker 1: am beyond grateful to be sitting in this chair, like

2013
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:39,280
Speaker 1: this chair is. I'm lucky and blessed, and I don't

2014
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:41,960
Speaker 1: take it. I don't take one episode for granted ever.

2015
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:44,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I might do good episodes and bad ones,

2016
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:46,879
Speaker 1: like when I'm breaking down judelpho Via fights that aren't happening,

2017
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 1: but I hope folks understand that mistakes aside. You know,

2018
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:54,519
Speaker 1: none of this is I'm not owed any of this.

2019
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:57,360
Speaker 1: This could all be taken away like that, and so

2020
01:33:57,479 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 1: the fact that I get to live it out as

2021
01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:02,880
Speaker 1: long as I have has been. I'm I am the

2022
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:03,840
Speaker 1: luckiest man alive.

2023
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:07,760
Speaker 2: Some days I feel, woh, don't go garrig on us.

2024
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:09,639
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I mean I look in the mirror

2025
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:11,200
Speaker 1: and I want to spit based on what I see

2026
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:13,799
Speaker 1: back in the reflection. So, you know, not everything's hunky dory,

2027
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 1: but there are a lot of things going right, and

2028
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 1: I'd be a fool to not recognize them, you know.

2029
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:20,679
Speaker 2: All right, I mean, you know, do you have any

2030
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:23,680
Speaker 2: thing you're thankful on a you know, micro, not as

2031
01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:26,719
Speaker 2: important level, Like Luke, I'm thankful for the nineteen seventies

2032
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 2: because my vinyl collection is just taking me on journeys

2033
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:30,920
Speaker 2: that I never you know, they're just every night, Luke,

2034
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:31,679
Speaker 2: I'm just you know.

2035
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:33,280
Speaker 1: No, I was thinking about this the other day. I

2036
01:34:33,320 --> 01:34:37,040
Speaker 1: am thankful for having gone. Like I'll be honest, Like

2037
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 1: when I signed up for the Marine Corps and it

2038
01:34:38,479 --> 01:34:40,160
Speaker 1: started to get closer and closer, I'm like, man, I

2039
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 1: don't want to do this shit, you know what I mean, Like,

2040
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:44,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to go and spend seven years, eight

2041
01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:46,880
Speaker 1: years whatever it was, doing this shit. I just don't

2042
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 1: want to do it. And then I just went through

2043
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:51,320
Speaker 1: with it. And there were long stretches where I did

2044
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:53,439
Speaker 1: not like being in the military. It wasn't for me,

2045
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:55,360
Speaker 1: and I would not I would do it again, but

2046
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:58,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would make the same choice that when

2047
01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:01,439
Speaker 1: my contract is up, I would move on. But I'm

2048
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:04,400
Speaker 1: really glad I did it, Like, really glad I did it.

2049
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:09,000
Speaker 1: It was very difficult and not fun for long stretches,

2050
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:12,760
Speaker 1: but it it was so helpful for so many life

2051
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 1: experiences I would later encounter. Yeah, and I feel like

2052
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:18,439
Speaker 1: there's a lot of young men out there lost about

2053
01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 1: who they are and how to navigate the world. And

2054
01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:23,400
Speaker 1: based on the experiences I've had, not just the Marine

2055
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:25,920
Speaker 1: Corps but other ones too, I've never felt that way.

2056
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:28,400
Speaker 1: I've never felt like, Gee, what's the next stage to

2057
01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 1: work towards. I'd always had a clear understanding of the latter,

2058
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 1: whether I could climb it. Different story, But the path

2059
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:36,759
Speaker 1: was never dark. It was never dark.

2060
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:41,800
Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's a very important thing.

2061
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 1: Luke.

2062
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 2: You know I didn't enter the service, but you know

2063
01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:47,720
Speaker 2: I probably had my own similar experience. I mean, I

2064
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:51,439
Speaker 2: delivered newspapers at three in the morning every day of

2065
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 2: the year.

2066
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:52,639
Speaker 1: For a year longer.

2067
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:55,200
Speaker 2: Did you do that while having a full time job

2068
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 2: as well? That shows you how desperate I was to

2069
01:35:57,479 --> 01:35:58,920
Speaker 2: not have to try to move back into my parents

2070
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 2: with my parents. Would you say, how old was I?

2071
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:03,640
Speaker 1: No? No, no, How long did you deliver papers that

2072
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:04,960
Speaker 1: like that early in the morning?

2073
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:09,719
Speaker 2: A year and a half? And eventually I paid somebody

2074
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:12,600
Speaker 2: to do my weekends. But uh, yeah, like you know,

2075
01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:15,800
Speaker 2: I mean, when you're when you're already like supposed to

2076
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:17,280
Speaker 2: be an adult and you're out on your own and you,

2077
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:19,000
Speaker 2: like I said, you have a full time job. But

2078
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 2: then you're like, oh, man, I don't know what I'm

2079
01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:23,080
Speaker 2: doing in life. I can't I can't function, I can't

2080
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:25,200
Speaker 2: be an adult. You can't pull this off. And you're like, okay,

2081
01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:27,760
Speaker 2: I just need something else to get me through. So

2082
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:29,519
Speaker 2: I took on that job. And man, when you're out

2083
01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 2: there and like it's snowing and sleeting and it's you know,

2084
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 2: negative degrees, and you have a lot of those moments

2085
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:38,120
Speaker 2: probably like you had in boot camp, where you're like,

2086
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:39,960
Speaker 2: I never want to do this again. I can't. I

2087
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:41,320
Speaker 2: don't know if I'm going to make it through this,

2088
01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:43,639
Speaker 2: but maybe one day it'll all be worth it.

2089
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:45,080
Speaker 1: And you know what they used to do to US

2090
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:47,479
Speaker 1: Marine Corps boot camp is the longest. It's thirteen weeks.

2091
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 1: In the Army, and in the air and the Air

2092
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:51,639
Speaker 1: Force are much shorter. And they used to tell us

2093
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:54,080
Speaker 1: like at every interval, like, hey, if you were in

2094
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:57,120
Speaker 1: the Air Force, you'd be done today, but you're not, bitch,

2095
01:36:57,280 --> 01:36:59,439
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like they would remind us

2096
01:36:59,479 --> 01:37:00,840
Speaker 1: at every if you were in the Army, you'd be

2097
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:04,400
Speaker 1: done today, but you got five weeks left. You fucking whore.

2098
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 1: You know, they're just in your face with it all

2099
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 1: the time. I used to want to fucking strangle them

2100
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:08,680
Speaker 1: when they did that.

2101
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:12,600
Speaker 2: But you know, but you're thankful for having you know.

2102
01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:14,639
Speaker 2: I'll survive that exactly.

2103
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 1: Like in the end, I'm glad it turned out the

2104
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:18,320
Speaker 1: way that it did. It's just when it's difficult in

2105
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:21,080
Speaker 1: the moment, it's so hard to accept, you know, but

2106
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 1: afterwards you're like, shit, that was dude. Let me let

2107
01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:25,760
Speaker 1: me just say one last thing. We can move on.

2108
01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:29,760
Speaker 1: The answer. Okay, hard work won't solve all your problems.

2109
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:34,040
Speaker 1: That's not true. You can't just work your way through everything. However,

2110
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:37,479
Speaker 1: the answer to probably a lot of your problems is

2111
01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:40,400
Speaker 1: on the other side of hard work. Oh yeah, you

2112
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

2113
01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:45,320
Speaker 2: Hard work has to be paired with you growing through

2114
01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 2: your setbacks and weaknesses and trying to become a better

2115
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 2: person and doing making the life changes you need to

2116
01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:52,320
Speaker 2: do that. Then you pair that with hard work, and

2117
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 2: you know, mountains can move, and it typically does when

2118
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:57,760
Speaker 2: you sort of get it right, quote unquote, get it

2119
01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:00,839
Speaker 2: you put it together. You're like enough of delivering papers

2120
01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:02,599
Speaker 2: in the snow, like you know, enough of that shit.

2121
01:38:02,680 --> 01:38:05,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, at the same time, Luke, you get to

2122
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:09,280
Speaker 2: a certain level where what separates everybody hard work, okay.

2123
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:11,680
Speaker 1: And luck. Don't forget luck. That's relevant too.

2124
01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a few other sprinkles of ingredients you'll need.

2125
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:19,280
Speaker 2: But build that foundation though that no one's gonna outwork

2126
01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:23,720
Speaker 2: you that you'll bleed for this life and you'll have

2127
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:26,400
Speaker 2: a lot to be thankful for and whatever endeavor you choose.

2128
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:29,200
Speaker 2: All right, there you go, Luke, that's our that's our DMS.

2129
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:31,280
Speaker 1: Right, that's right, all right, let's see. Let's this time

2130
01:38:31,320 --> 01:38:32,439
Speaker 1: for BC's feces.

2131
01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:34,519
Speaker 2: All right. Look, I don't I can't vouch for this group.

2132
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:36,800
Speaker 2: I put it together angry in last minute. But what

2133
01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:39,519
Speaker 2: I did in purpose, in theory, and sorry if all

2134
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:41,559
Speaker 2: your favorite ones won't get shown this week because of

2135
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:44,559
Speaker 2: that purge is I scoured the globe for the good,

2136
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:48,639
Speaker 2: the bad, the ugly, the in between, combat sports beyond bitch.

2137
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:54,240
Speaker 2: This is called Have you seen this ish BC's feces? Y'all?

2138
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:58,559
Speaker 1: All right, I want to see some elder abuse you sacker. Shit.

2139
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:01,479
Speaker 2: I don't know if we have that this week. Here's

2140
01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:02,920
Speaker 2: what we do have, and let's shout him out. Luke,

2141
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:04,599
Speaker 2: I don't know the promotion. I don't know what state

2142
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:07,800
Speaker 2: this took in, but MMA journalist Oscar Willis had an

2143
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:09,840
Speaker 2: amateur debut. It went three rounds.

2144
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:12,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, could he telegraph this punch more?

2145
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 2: That's him and the these.

2146
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:16,000
Speaker 1: Motherfuckers are standing right in front of each other.

2147
01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:19,639
Speaker 2: He got dropped, He dropped the other guy. I mean,

2148
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 2: this was a damn oh shit, and he pulled out.

2149
01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 2: He pulled out a split decision over three rounds. You

2150
01:39:29,479 --> 01:39:33,519
Speaker 2: can watch the entire fight, including background footage of him

2151
01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:38,519
Speaker 2: behind the scenes, on Oscar Willis's Instagram page and probably elsewhere.

2152
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:41,600
Speaker 2: But dude, shout out to Casey Lyden, who did the

2153
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:43,840
Speaker 2: same thing. I didn't know Oscar was planning for this.

2154
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:45,479
Speaker 2: I just think when we see him with his shirt

2155
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:47,599
Speaker 2: off interviewing people, it's like part of the gimmick. But

2156
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 2: apparently he's been getting in good shape. I mean, look,

2157
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:51,840
Speaker 2: he's got some stuff to work on in terms of

2158
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:53,880
Speaker 2: like head movement and stuff. But dude, he was an

2159
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:54,960
Speaker 2: animal in this fight.

2160
01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:57,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got some intensity. I mean, I'm to be clear,

2161
01:39:57,800 --> 01:40:00,519
Speaker 1: I'm killing him out of love. We love Willis. I

2162
01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:01,840
Speaker 1: had him on the show one time when you were

2163
01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:04,519
Speaker 1: out we'll have him back on again. We get along

2164
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:06,920
Speaker 1: real If you guys don't know Oscar Willis, this is

2165
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:09,000
Speaker 1: very cool and commendable that he did this. But just

2166
01:40:09,080 --> 01:40:12,760
Speaker 1: this aside. You know, listen, this isn't as true as

2167
01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:14,080
Speaker 1: it used to be. But let me sort of state

2168
01:40:14,120 --> 01:40:17,000
Speaker 1: this out right. Years ago, it used to be the

2169
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:19,200
Speaker 1: case that MMA media, and they still do to an extent,

2170
01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:22,000
Speaker 1: all secretly kind of hate each other. To be honest

2171
01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:24,680
Speaker 1: with you, they all secretly like jab at each other

2172
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:26,880
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, and they all secretly fucking are jealous

2173
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:30,280
Speaker 1: of each other or whatever. Oscar Willis is just one

2174
01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:32,280
Speaker 1: of the nicest guys now. And I'm not saying that like,

2175
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:35,120
Speaker 1: you know, oh, I'm just finding something nice to say. No, really,

2176
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:38,880
Speaker 1: he's easy to get along with. He's funny, he's experienced

2177
01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:41,280
Speaker 1: in the industry, he knows his work. He knows his job.

2178
01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:43,640
Speaker 1: He does a phenomenal job with the stuff over the

2179
01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:46,599
Speaker 1: mac life. Let me just say this, a very BC,

2180
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:49,160
Speaker 1: would you agree, A very easy guy to cheer for.

2181
01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:52,559
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely love talking with that Guy's a fun

2182
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:54,599
Speaker 2: He's a I don't go out at night, look because

2183
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:56,400
Speaker 2: I'm an old pos but I'm sure that guy's a

2184
01:40:56,439 --> 01:40:59,519
Speaker 2: great hang. But dude, like he never broken this fight,

2185
01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:01,679
Speaker 2: this fight a war. It was like sloppy at ship

2186
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:03,360
Speaker 2: out time. He just stood in there. And I'll give

2187
01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:05,519
Speaker 2: him so much credit man for for getting to the

2188
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:08,559
Speaker 2: finish and then getting that win. Dude, I mean, he

2189
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 2: did what most of us aren't either brave enough or

2190
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:15,519
Speaker 2: crazy enough to do. And maybe it's a combination of both.

2191
01:41:15,560 --> 01:41:19,320
Speaker 2: So shout out to him getting a taste possible. Also

2192
01:41:19,400 --> 01:41:21,759
Speaker 2: that speaking of getting a taste of it, Luke Vanessa

2193
01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:24,240
Speaker 2: Demopolis making headlines as always that you have to fight.

2194
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 1: This one was going to be on your radar. You

2195
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:27,560
Speaker 1: are unbelievable.

2196
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:30,519
Speaker 2: So her fight with Maria Olivera had had a you know,

2197
01:41:30,600 --> 01:41:33,559
Speaker 2: contentious build up, and then she got the win relying

2198
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:35,679
Speaker 2: on her game plan for the first time. She said,

2199
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 2: after the coaching and all that, but look this lambeau

2200
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:41,200
Speaker 2: leap she's got going on. It's it's it's gaining momentum.

2201
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:44,400
Speaker 1: Would you say it is? It is? She's making it

2202
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:47,599
Speaker 1: a signature item and it's working. So let's see.

2203
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:50,680
Speaker 2: Well look, the Greek goddess of war herself also took

2204
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:54,479
Speaker 2: to the microphone after the fight. Let's hear from her spot.

2205
01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:59,879
Speaker 2: What is your spot?

2206
01:42:03,680 --> 01:42:07,280
Speaker 3: I mean, Luca, it's it's a it's a little bit

2207
01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:09,880
Speaker 3: of a of a it's a little bit of a

2208
01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:14,120
Speaker 3: lame gimmick, but you know, she's she's it's good to see.

2209
01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 2: Somebody who has kind of arrived on the scene. Wild story, background,

2210
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:20,840
Speaker 2: all that, starting to put it together now at this

2211
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:23,280
Speaker 2: level of matchmaking, of course, but that's three in a row.

2212
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:23,479
Speaker 1: Now.

2213
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:26,240
Speaker 2: The gimmick is a little uh hit or miss the times, Luke.

2214
01:42:26,280 --> 01:42:28,960
Speaker 2: But she's fun, she's fun to watch, so.

2215
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:31,439
Speaker 1: She just fun to watch, Yes, and Luke.

2216
01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:34,000
Speaker 2: Here was her celebration inside the casino after.

2217
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:38,000
Speaker 1: Uh, correct me if I'm wrong. She has done some

2218
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:40,240
Speaker 1: let's say exotic dancing.

2219
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:43,000
Speaker 2: Well, it's not just that. If you really read her backstory.

2220
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:44,760
Speaker 2: She comes from both of her parents were in that

2221
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:46,519
Speaker 2: industry as well. So it was she said it was

2222
01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 2: like natural, it was like expected and automatic that she

2223
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:50,760
Speaker 2: would do it, that she would enter into it, and

2224
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:52,320
Speaker 2: apparently she was elite at it.

2225
01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:56,479
Speaker 1: Luke, She's not bad, all right.

2226
01:42:56,360 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 2: Well, Luke, let's see other times that people got out

2227
01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:03,960
Speaker 2: here Muslim Solikov, Luke, this fight was a war, like

2228
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:07,320
Speaker 2: we told you it would be against Andre Fiallo, but

2229
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:10,080
Speaker 2: there was the finish coming up here, that spinning back kick.

2230
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:13,599
Speaker 2: Dude Solakov got his ass kicked for a while and

2231
01:43:13,640 --> 01:43:16,720
Speaker 2: then he just started unleashing video game strikes like for

2232
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:19,120
Speaker 2: a full round and a half to This fight was crazy.

2233
01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this one was a wild one for sure,

2234
01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:24,000
Speaker 1: and Salakov needed this too. He came in with a

2235
01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:25,840
Speaker 1: bit of hyghe he's a little bit older. He came

2236
01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:26,960
Speaker 1: in with a bit of hyph but and it's beIN

2237
01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:29,519
Speaker 1: somewhat unfulfilled, but this was a great This was a

2238
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:30,280
Speaker 1: great fulfillment.

2239
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:32,719
Speaker 2: Dude Fiolo makes crazy fights.

2240
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:35,160
Speaker 1: Luke, Yeah, I mean fights don't suck ever, I.

2241
01:43:35,080 --> 01:43:37,040
Speaker 2: Mean, I'm you know you you'd love to subscribe him

2242
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:40,639
Speaker 2: more head movement. But like he's willing. He's very willing.

2243
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:44,479
Speaker 2: So uh wow, all right, you know who else was, Luke? Uh,

2244
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:52,080
Speaker 2: mister Madelena, mister Jack Matta del Man, Della Maddelena.

2245
01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:53,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, this was one of the ones that we

2246
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:57,040
Speaker 1: did tell people that worked out well for us. Although

2247
01:43:57,160 --> 01:44:00,400
Speaker 1: not hard to figure out. Jacket Madelena is a fucking hammer.

2248
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:01,719
Speaker 1: He is excellent.

2249
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:07,479
Speaker 2: Tko one of Danny Hot Chocolate Roberts is obviously a

2250
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:10,680
Speaker 2: respected name, but dude, he just put it on him.

2251
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:12,759
Speaker 2: I mean it was it was wow.

2252
01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:17,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's talented. He up and coming out of Australia

2253
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:17,439
Speaker 1: for you.

2254
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:19,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, like he's in great shape. He hits hard, but

2255
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 2: he's also like his setups and his technique and his field. Dude,

2256
01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:25,760
Speaker 2: he flows like he really flows the whole time he's

2257
01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:26,080
Speaker 2: in there.

2258
01:44:26,120 --> 01:44:29,759
Speaker 1: Man, he moves like a boxer. Yeah, rolling under hooks,

2259
01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:32,400
Speaker 1: changing angles on guys. Like he's talented.

2260
01:44:32,840 --> 01:44:35,959
Speaker 2: Luke Cashtag Holy Hammer Alert brought to you by Natalia

2261
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:39,559
Speaker 2: Silva with the spinning back kick to open the night

2262
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:42,040
Speaker 2: of Newcomer to Theresa Blada.

2263
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:46,240
Speaker 1: Damn, Yeah, I don't understand, Like going back, she was

2264
01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:50,000
Speaker 1: shooting from pretty fucking far away. I didn't quite get that.

2265
01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:53,400
Speaker 1: Let's rull that highlight one more time. I mean, that's

2266
01:44:53,439 --> 01:44:56,920
Speaker 1: gonna roll through, But yeah, I mean she's that's that's

2267
01:44:57,000 --> 01:44:59,720
Speaker 1: really far away for a shot. By the way, have

2268
01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:01,360
Speaker 1: you know has been like a lot of people in

2269
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:05,120
Speaker 1: MMA this year getting absolutely bulldozed running into strikes when

2270
01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:07,720
Speaker 1: they shoot. Yeah, people are people are getting better at

2271
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:10,080
Speaker 1: attacking shots with strikes.

2272
01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:12,040
Speaker 2: Are you saying that they're getting askrinned?

2273
01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:16,599
Speaker 1: No, because I mean yeah, he was shooting, but Jorge

2274
01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:19,639
Speaker 1: ran across the cage. It's not really the same thing exactly.

2275
01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:22,719
Speaker 1: I mean, like if you're getting pressured and then reacting

2276
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:22,960
Speaker 1: to it.

2277
01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:26,560
Speaker 2: You know. Look, this flyweight bout between Charles Johnson and

2278
01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 2: Zumalagov was nuts. Let's hear from Michael Bibboslov. All right,

2279
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:38,360
Speaker 2: we didn't play the audio there. That was Michael bisbing

2280
01:45:38,439 --> 01:45:41,320
Speaker 2: basically being like, look, this is nuts. Why because Luke,

2281
01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:45,320
Speaker 2: they traded an insane amount of fottles in this action fight.

2282
01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:47,599
Speaker 2: And then did you see how long they hugged afterwards?

2283
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:49,760
Speaker 2: It was like they were like best friends. Now, that

2284
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:50,720
Speaker 2: was just a weird fight.

2285
01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:53,559
Speaker 1: I did miss that part. But also after this fight,

2286
01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:56,400
Speaker 1: Zumogoulov said he retired. Did you see that? I did

2287
01:45:56,479 --> 01:45:59,280
Speaker 1: not see that really, Yeah he did. The guy has

2288
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:02,240
Speaker 1: been on the on the losing end of a number

2289
01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:05,479
Speaker 1: of very close decisions. Yeah, and you know, it could

2290
01:46:05,479 --> 01:46:06,880
Speaker 1: be one of those things in the moment, but it

2291
01:46:06,920 --> 01:46:09,080
Speaker 1: seemed like he's sick of it and he said he retired.

2292
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:11,320
Speaker 1: You know, Emma, my retirements never seemed to last. But

2293
01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:12,920
Speaker 1: he did say that.

2294
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:16,120
Speaker 2: I think we were supposed to hear that audio, so

2295
01:46:16,160 --> 01:46:17,920
Speaker 2: hopefully we'll keep hearing it. But Luke, check out this.

2296
01:46:18,040 --> 01:46:20,800
Speaker 2: Let's go to beltar two eighty eight from Chicago, six

2297
01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:24,360
Speaker 2: foot six heavyweight Daniel James, forty years old. Look at

2298
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:27,800
Speaker 2: the uppercut finish on a top ten ranked guy in

2299
01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:28,839
Speaker 2: Tyroll Fortune.

2300
01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:32,639
Speaker 1: Tyrol Fortune's not a big heavyweight, but he's a great wrestler,

2301
01:46:33,160 --> 01:46:38,640
Speaker 1: and old James is a monster heavyweight. Uh and you know,

2302
01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:42,120
Speaker 1: just a fucking bulldozer of a man.

2303
01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:43,080
Speaker 2: Let's do it.

2304
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:45,479
Speaker 1: And look by the look he's got the predator thing going.

2305
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:46,519
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you not like that?

2306
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:49,000
Speaker 2: I mean the American predator. Let's do a slow moll

2307
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:51,600
Speaker 2: replay that uppercut because that thing was perfection.

2308
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:55,559
Speaker 1: There it is. It drops him. By the way, people

2309
01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:57,280
Speaker 1: were complaining about shots to the back of the head.

2310
01:46:57,360 --> 01:46:59,680
Speaker 1: I did count some. So he gets out of the

2311
01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:02,280
Speaker 1: way of the overhand, throws the left, and then meets

2312
01:47:02,320 --> 01:47:05,000
Speaker 1: him with his own uppercut right up the play you

2313
01:47:05,160 --> 01:47:06,240
Speaker 1: like a fiddle a.

2314
01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:11,719
Speaker 2: Hammer, brother? Wow? All right? Well, then Daniel James shot

2315
01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:13,280
Speaker 2: his shot to one Scott Cocker.

2316
01:47:16,120 --> 01:47:17,120
Speaker 1: Who is it you?

2317
01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:19,360
Speaker 2: You just took out the number five guy with a

2318
01:47:19,479 --> 01:47:22,160
Speaker 2: big time win. Who is it you should be fighting

2319
01:47:22,200 --> 01:47:24,400
Speaker 2: the next time you step in me. I am no foul.

2320
01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:30,479
Speaker 1: I'm number five stout Scott Scott Coker. I'm here, baby.

2321
01:47:31,520 --> 01:47:35,000
Speaker 1: You need a pretty chocolate heavyweight. I'm here. Let's go

2322
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 1: straight up.

2323
01:47:36,439 --> 01:47:39,160
Speaker 2: We got the market, we get everything, might have got good.

2324
01:47:39,160 --> 01:47:39,800
Speaker 2: I'm going nice.

2325
01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:40,240
Speaker 1: Let's go.

2326
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:40,920
Speaker 2: I can fight.

2327
01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:44,160
Speaker 1: I'm no foul. What's next up, lady, Let's go.

2328
01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:49,960
Speaker 2: Coker would go on to tweet, I heard you a

2329
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:53,479
Speaker 2: loud and clear, Luke, Like he kind of made a

2330
01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:55,760
Speaker 2: massive leap pair like really in the belt to our

2331
01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:58,880
Speaker 2: top ten. I mean he was unranked and not well known,

2332
01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:01,080
Speaker 2: and he just knocked out five who was coming on.

2333
01:48:01,640 --> 01:48:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't know exactly how far he

2334
01:48:04,040 --> 01:48:06,200
Speaker 1: can go. I mean, the dude is older even for heavyweight,

2335
01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:09,320
Speaker 1: he's past forty, but he's fun as shit, and he

2336
01:48:09,400 --> 01:48:12,640
Speaker 1: can hit hard and he tries like I'm all in.

2337
01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:16,799
Speaker 2: I mentioned the wholesome joy shown by usman Normaga Metov

2338
01:48:17,120 --> 01:48:19,479
Speaker 2: on the phone in the cage afterwards with Abb and

2339
01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:23,840
Speaker 2: this is him backstage, Luke. I mean it was expected,

2340
01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:26,560
Speaker 2: but to see how much it meant to him to

2341
01:48:26,640 --> 01:48:28,600
Speaker 2: get to this point so early, it felt good. It

2342
01:48:28,640 --> 01:48:29,240
Speaker 2: felt good, Luke.

2343
01:48:29,560 --> 01:48:31,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you could. I mean again, I think he

2344
01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:35,120
Speaker 1: was feeling the pressure a little bit. Listen, it's not

2345
01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:38,439
Speaker 1: just that you know he has to fight that opponent.

2346
01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:42,160
Speaker 1: You just think about all of the pressure being from

2347
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:46,040
Speaker 1: that family, being from that camp, like excellence is expected

2348
01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:48,400
Speaker 1: and you have to deliver. And he did. He did,

2349
01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:51,040
Speaker 1: but I think he was I think it was a

2350
01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:52,559
Speaker 1: big relief when it was all over.

2351
01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:55,400
Speaker 2: You know, you know who else delivered. Vadem Nemkoff. As

2352
01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:57,760
Speaker 2: we mentioned, here's just a piece of his handiwork. We're

2353
01:48:57,760 --> 01:48:59,800
Speaker 2: breaking out some spinny shit on Corey over time.

2354
01:49:00,280 --> 01:49:02,120
Speaker 1: This was at the end of round one, which was

2355
01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:05,559
Speaker 1: a close ish round. This sealed it for Nimkov. Completely

2356
01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:07,320
Speaker 1: nice shot.

2357
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:11,160
Speaker 2: Indeed, belt or undercards. You know, if there's a fat heavyweights,

2358
01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:14,080
Speaker 2: he'll show up on this show. Vladimir gouveya though on

2359
01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:15,679
Speaker 2: the right, delivering big.

2360
01:49:16,120 --> 01:49:22,679
Speaker 1: This looks like you and me fighting. Oh yeah, great,

2361
01:49:22,840 --> 01:49:23,599
Speaker 1: what are we doing here?

2362
01:49:23,640 --> 01:49:27,560
Speaker 2: Fell all right? Back to the salt mines. There we go,

2363
01:49:27,800 --> 01:49:30,120
Speaker 2: let's go, let's go to the boxing ring. Look, this

2364
01:49:30,240 --> 01:49:32,280
Speaker 2: may have been the biggest knockout of the weekend. Greg

2365
01:49:32,360 --> 01:49:35,960
Speaker 2: Hardy fielded on short notice for Vitor Belfort. He took

2366
01:49:36,040 --> 01:49:40,559
Speaker 2: on Hassim Rockman Junior, and watch out who.

2367
01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:43,639
Speaker 1: He dude, catch and shoot. He caught the first punch

2368
01:49:43,720 --> 01:49:46,080
Speaker 1: on the gloves and then immediately fired the right down

2369
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:49,439
Speaker 1: the middle. Dude, Greg Hardy looked all right in this fight.

2370
01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:51,240
Speaker 1: Can I be honest with you? He looked all right.

2371
01:49:51,640 --> 01:49:54,120
Speaker 2: This is you know, on paper, it's a horrific loss

2372
01:49:54,120 --> 01:49:56,040
Speaker 2: for Hasim Rockman, who was gonna fight Jake Paul and

2373
01:49:56,120 --> 01:49:58,720
Speaker 2: then was gonna fight Vitor Belfort. It ended up going

2374
01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:01,040
Speaker 2: the distance for four rounds and it was basically three

2375
01:50:01,120 --> 01:50:03,320
Speaker 2: rounds to one plus the knockdown. It was an unanimous

2376
01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:06,880
Speaker 2: decision for Hardy and what But look, we can't overlook

2377
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:11,559
Speaker 2: one thing. Hardy came in ninety four pounds heavier than Rockman,

2378
01:50:11,560 --> 01:50:14,200
Speaker 2: who's a small heavyweight, kind of a bridger weight if

2379
01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:17,040
Speaker 2: you believe in that type of bullshit. But I'll give

2380
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:19,680
Speaker 2: Rockman credit. He fought his way out of trouble in

2381
01:50:19,680 --> 01:50:21,479
Speaker 2: the first round. He was laying in big shots. But

2382
01:50:22,720 --> 01:50:25,000
Speaker 2: that size, I mean, they're like two way classes apart.

2383
01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:28,360
Speaker 1: They look like right, Yeah, the size definitely played a role.

2384
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:30,519
Speaker 1: Let's just be clear. And in defense of a seam

2385
01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:35,240
Speaker 1: Rockman Junior, however, if This was Rockman's attempt to get

2386
01:50:35,360 --> 01:50:39,360
Speaker 1: these like silly ass fights, you know with I don't

2387
01:50:39,400 --> 01:50:42,400
Speaker 1: know Degie or whoever the fuck out there. This This

2388
01:50:42,560 --> 01:50:43,800
Speaker 1: audition did not go great.

2389
01:50:44,040 --> 01:50:47,120
Speaker 2: You know, Geff, I'm now realizing I never emailed you

2390
01:50:47,240 --> 01:50:50,080
Speaker 2: the Hardy celebratory dance video. I don't believe we have that.

2391
01:50:50,360 --> 01:50:53,120
Speaker 2: So let's skip no that we do there we go,

2392
01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:57,880
Speaker 2: oh wow, thank you Geff for pulling that out of nowhere.

2393
01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:00,880
Speaker 2: Looke needs work on the dancing. Are you into this?

2394
01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:03,720
Speaker 1: Is this like a like a shitty Fortnite thing or what?

2395
01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:05,720
Speaker 2: I don't know that, but you know he does. He

2396
01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:07,600
Speaker 2: looked great. He deserves it. He's going to get a

2397
01:51:07,640 --> 01:51:09,000
Speaker 2: pay day out of this leak, you know he will.

2398
01:51:09,160 --> 01:51:11,120
Speaker 1: You know what, he showed more Cardio in this fight

2399
01:51:11,200 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 1: than he did ever in five minutes in MMA.

2400
01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:16,519
Speaker 2: Well, he called out Tommy Fury and Tyson Fury afterwards,

2401
01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:18,320
Speaker 2: although Shannon Briggs was in his ear kind of like

2402
01:51:18,520 --> 01:51:22,240
Speaker 2: pushing him on, but does he in a weird way.

2403
01:51:22,360 --> 01:51:25,280
Speaker 2: Now enter the larger Jake Paul sweepstakes. I know Jake's

2404
01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:28,599
Speaker 2: you know, at kind of the light heavyweight cruiserweight area,

2405
01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:30,360
Speaker 2: but trying to be more of a light heavyweight one

2406
01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:35,080
Speaker 2: seventy five in boxing. I mean, is this a potential fight? Seriously,

2407
01:51:36,120 --> 01:51:37,240
Speaker 2: Jake Paul I.

2408
01:51:38,720 --> 01:51:41,800
Speaker 1: Was thinking about this. I don't know, because I don't

2409
01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:44,479
Speaker 1: know how much like interest there is and Jake Paul

2410
01:51:44,560 --> 01:51:47,360
Speaker 1: versus Greg Hardy right now, it seems to me, at

2411
01:51:47,439 --> 01:51:50,200
Speaker 1: least in the immediate aftermath, certainly, if you're Greg Hardy,

2412
01:51:50,280 --> 01:51:52,799
Speaker 1: this is decent for your fortunes. Like obviously it's definitely

2413
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:55,000
Speaker 1: not a bad thing by any stretch, But it just

2414
01:51:55,080 --> 01:51:57,720
Speaker 1: feels to me right now that this was more deflating

2415
01:51:57,800 --> 01:52:01,200
Speaker 1: for Rockman Junior than it was booting for Gregary.

2416
01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:03,920
Speaker 2: It's very bad. It's a very bad loss if you're

2417
01:52:03,920 --> 01:52:06,120
Speaker 2: trying to be a legitimate boxer for Hassim rock Bond,

2418
01:52:06,160 --> 01:52:09,200
Speaker 2: There's no question about it. But this was a three

2419
01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:12,680
Speaker 2: hundred and sixteen pound Greg Hardy who did cut down

2420
01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:15,519
Speaker 2: to two sixty five during his UFC days. I wonder

2421
01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:17,320
Speaker 2: where Jake would try to make him cut to if

2422
01:52:17,360 --> 01:52:20,240
Speaker 2: that was ever at all even possible, Luke, because there's

2423
01:52:20,280 --> 01:52:22,840
Speaker 2: a hundred something pound difference there. I mean, that's crazy.

2424
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:26,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but again rock Man Junior looked bad.

2425
01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:29,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, you know what was bad? Luke booking

2426
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:33,400
Speaker 2: an unbeaten guy we love in Jimi Mungia once again

2427
01:52:33,479 --> 01:52:35,639
Speaker 2: against somebody you never heard of. So this is Mongia.

2428
01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:36,240
Speaker 2: I'm proven too.

2429
01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:40,719
Speaker 1: Dan Rayfaiel on Twitter was fucking killing Mungia and Golden

2430
01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:41,439
Speaker 1: Boy for making this.

2431
01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:44,040
Speaker 2: Who's a bigger boxing fan than me? I didn't even

2432
01:52:44,120 --> 01:52:46,200
Speaker 2: know this fight was Saturday. It was like I didn't

2433
01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:47,920
Speaker 2: realize it until like last night. I was like, Oh,

2434
01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:50,519
Speaker 2: Mangia fought what dude? He fought a guy we never

2435
01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:52,760
Speaker 2: heard of that we ripped when it was announced. Yeah,

2436
01:52:52,840 --> 01:52:55,640
Speaker 2: he's forty one to o now. But like, he's not

2437
01:52:55,760 --> 01:52:57,720
Speaker 2: going out of his way to fight Demetrius Andreid. I

2438
01:52:57,800 --> 01:52:59,680
Speaker 2: know he's always wanted Charlow and that's a hard fight

2439
01:52:59,760 --> 01:53:02,360
Speaker 2: to make across you know, network lines, unless it's again,

2440
01:53:02,439 --> 01:53:04,160
Speaker 2: unless it's a big fight like we're doing with Ryan

2441
01:53:04,200 --> 01:53:07,000
Speaker 2: Garcia and Tank Davis. But dude, I mean, put him

2442
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:09,240
Speaker 2: against glove Can, put him against somebody. What are we

2443
01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:09,840
Speaker 2: doing here?

2444
01:53:10,400 --> 01:53:13,599
Speaker 1: Even now? He's fighting not a top glove Can, He's

2445
01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:15,960
Speaker 1: fighting a lesser version of it. If they even made

2446
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:19,759
Speaker 1: that one, fighting people. People throw the term can crusher

2447
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:22,519
Speaker 1: out there a little too often. I don't think it's

2448
01:53:22,600 --> 01:53:24,599
Speaker 1: unfair against Mungia. I really don't.

2449
01:53:25,320 --> 01:53:27,439
Speaker 2: All right, well that was a different zone card. But

2450
01:53:27,560 --> 01:53:29,679
Speaker 2: back to that first de zone card that with Greg

2451
01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:33,759
Speaker 2: HARDI th that was a misfits card. Here's a weird

2452
01:53:34,360 --> 01:53:48,840
Speaker 2: offer to ks I, who was ring Sidelo. Look that

2453
01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:51,160
Speaker 2: marriage proposal went nowhere from that kid. I mean, what

2454
01:53:51,200 --> 01:53:51,599
Speaker 2: are we doing?

2455
01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:54,960
Speaker 1: I couldn't hear it, and the kid looks stupid anyway.

2456
01:53:55,000 --> 01:53:58,000
Speaker 2: All right, well, look you know what's going on here?

2457
01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:01,439
Speaker 2: Uh k s I was there. Well we'll get to

2458
01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:03,280
Speaker 2: that in a second. The only thing lamer than that

2459
01:54:03,360 --> 01:54:07,120
Speaker 2: marriage proposal to KSI was the boxing form shown in

2460
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:08,200
Speaker 2: this YouTube fight.

2461
01:54:10,920 --> 01:54:14,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, did he have a I'm not doing a bit.

2462
01:54:14,360 --> 01:54:15,719
Speaker 1: Did he have like a seizure or something?

2463
01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:18,640
Speaker 2: No, no, no, there was a few highlights from this

2464
01:54:18,680 --> 01:54:21,080
Speaker 2: guy in the white trunks, Colossus Shields was clowning him

2465
01:54:21,120 --> 01:54:25,720
Speaker 2: and sharing it. Yeah, so this was a what's it called?

2466
01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:28,120
Speaker 2: Don't play that? Don't play this one yet? Hold on,

2467
01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:30,760
Speaker 2: it's what is that? Do his own misfits? Who runs

2468
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:31,800
Speaker 2: that KSI's brand?

2469
01:54:32,200 --> 01:54:33,800
Speaker 1: I think that's right. I think that's right.

2470
01:54:33,880 --> 01:54:36,080
Speaker 2: I think it's its own promotion that that's there. Okay,

2471
01:54:36,160 --> 01:54:40,240
Speaker 2: So as we know there was a lot of build

2472
01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:42,280
Speaker 2: up with Dylan Danis showing up, Luke. He ended up

2473
01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:44,400
Speaker 2: having a crazy weekend. The result, of course, is that

2474
01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:46,840
Speaker 2: they announced that the next big his own pay per

2475
01:54:46,960 --> 01:54:50,600
Speaker 2: view Misfits fight would be KSI versus Dylan Danis. But

2476
01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:52,040
Speaker 2: here's how his weekend started.

2477
01:54:52,640 --> 01:54:54,040
Speaker 1: Saddest shit on Earth.

2478
01:54:55,080 --> 01:54:57,560
Speaker 2: This is Danis, whose teammate got slapped by Nate Diaz

2479
01:54:57,640 --> 01:55:01,200
Speaker 2: last weekend after the UFC card. This was a premeditated,

2480
01:55:01,240 --> 01:55:03,640
Speaker 2: planned attack here from Danis pro wrestling style of.

2481
01:55:03,640 --> 01:55:08,600
Speaker 1: Course, so he touched this is This is Dylan Danis's brand. Now,

2482
01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:11,600
Speaker 1: this is who he is. He is the guy who

2483
01:55:11,800 --> 01:55:15,960
Speaker 1: shows up and has commotions that people film on their phone.

2484
01:55:16,520 --> 01:55:18,960
Speaker 1: Usually he's taken an L. Not always, but usually.

2485
01:55:19,240 --> 01:55:20,840
Speaker 2: Well we'll get to his big L in a second,

2486
01:55:20,920 --> 01:55:23,680
Speaker 2: but this was him. So he kind of tapped Ksi

2487
01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:25,880
Speaker 2: with his left hand on the face and then came

2488
01:55:25,960 --> 01:55:27,720
Speaker 2: over the top with a drink on top of him,

2489
01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:32,160
Speaker 2: and then backstage he assaulted this boxing videographer Luke. But

2490
01:55:32,920 --> 01:55:35,280
Speaker 2: payback would come back in the form of a Karma Bitch,

2491
01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:38,000
Speaker 2: and that Kara Bitch was delivered by Anthony Taylor. You

2492
01:55:38,080 --> 01:55:41,240
Speaker 2: know him, Remember he boxed Tommy Friedz Boy, despite the

2493
01:55:41,280 --> 01:55:44,120
Speaker 2: fact they were like eight way classes apart. Wall A

2494
01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:48,000
Speaker 2: leaping right hand from Anthony Taylor connects on Dylan Dannis.

2495
01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:50,200
Speaker 2: So you're right, Luke, his new brand is to just

2496
01:55:50,280 --> 01:55:52,400
Speaker 2: show up and kind of get punked, right.

2497
01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:55,440
Speaker 1: He just shows up, gets punked, and then you know,

2498
01:55:55,640 --> 01:55:58,160
Speaker 1: tries to leverage it for some kind of attention. Dude,

2499
01:55:58,200 --> 01:56:00,800
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how sad this is. So. I

2500
01:56:00,840 --> 01:56:04,280
Speaker 1: think it was around twenty fourteen, maybe twenty fifteen, maybe

2501
01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:06,440
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, because it was before he was ever associated

2502
01:56:06,480 --> 01:56:09,760
Speaker 1: with Connor. I did an interview with him for MMA

2503
01:56:09,880 --> 01:56:12,960
Speaker 1: Fighting and it was on at the time. This was

2504
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:15,760
Speaker 1: before he had any notoriety about this shit. In fact,

2505
01:56:15,880 --> 01:56:18,280
Speaker 1: this was at the time he was part of Marcelo

2506
01:56:18,320 --> 01:56:20,960
Speaker 1: Garcia's Brown Belt All Stars. I can't remember exactly when

2507
01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:23,080
Speaker 1: he got promoted to black belt. It was right around

2508
01:56:23,160 --> 01:56:28,280
Speaker 1: that time anyway, him and Jonathan Satava and manchuer Kiarra

2509
01:56:28,600 --> 01:56:29,440
Speaker 1: and there were some other ones.

2510
01:56:29,640 --> 01:56:31,920
Speaker 2: Got the video. I think we've played it enough times here.

2511
01:56:31,960 --> 01:56:36,040
Speaker 1: Sorry, Yeah, these at these guys were all There was

2512
01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:38,480
Speaker 1: more than that, but these three and some other ones. Miguel,

2513
01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:42,120
Speaker 1: excuse me, Marcello Garcia had like five or six brown

2514
01:56:42,200 --> 01:56:46,040
Speaker 1: belts all at one time that were fucking assassinating people

2515
01:56:46,120 --> 01:56:48,240
Speaker 1: at competitions, and he was one of them. And not

2516
01:56:48,360 --> 01:56:50,240
Speaker 1: only was he one of them, he was arguably the

2517
01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:53,360
Speaker 1: best among them, and you just thought he was destined

2518
01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:55,480
Speaker 1: for greatness at the black belt division. In fact, I

2519
01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:58,160
Speaker 1: think in twenty seventeen he had a match with Gordon

2520
01:56:58,240 --> 01:57:00,360
Speaker 1: Ryan at the ADEC at the ACC and him his

2521
01:57:00,600 --> 01:57:03,760
Speaker 1: very toughest match the entire time, at least among the

2522
01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:05,800
Speaker 1: ones that he was able to prevail. He lost that

2523
01:57:05,880 --> 01:57:08,040
Speaker 1: one too, but I was like, damn fucking you know,

2524
01:57:08,080 --> 01:57:10,080
Speaker 1: he gave it to him there a little bit. He

2525
01:57:10,200 --> 01:57:12,880
Speaker 1: has turned into a parody of himself, I.

2526
01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:15,760
Speaker 2: Mean, and did it start with Abib giving him the

2527
01:57:15,800 --> 01:57:17,200
Speaker 2: flying drop kick? Is at the beginning.

2528
01:57:17,680 --> 01:57:21,440
Speaker 1: It started when he became I'm not blaming Connor, because

2529
01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:23,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if Connor is to blame, but what

2530
01:57:23,680 --> 01:57:25,920
Speaker 1: I am saying is once he got associated with Connor

2531
01:57:25,960 --> 01:57:29,440
Speaker 1: and then that like that sort of paparazzish kind of life,

2532
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:32,360
Speaker 1: he became obsessed with it and seems like this is

2533
01:57:32,400 --> 01:57:35,720
Speaker 1: his only path forward anymore. And I want to remind

2534
01:57:35,760 --> 01:57:37,640
Speaker 1: folks I did an article on like it's called you

2535
01:57:37,680 --> 01:57:39,720
Speaker 1: can look it up. It's called the Rise of the Guillotine,

2536
01:57:40,160 --> 01:57:42,480
Speaker 1: and it was at a time when people just before

2537
01:57:42,600 --> 01:57:44,880
Speaker 1: that the guillotine, not that it was going out of fashion,

2538
01:57:44,920 --> 01:57:46,520
Speaker 1: but it was really little percentage, and then it had

2539
01:57:46,560 --> 01:57:48,840
Speaker 1: this boost and fortunate as people began to make adjustments

2540
01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:51,360
Speaker 1: to it, a lot of which came from Marcello Garcia's team. Anyway,

2541
01:57:51,360 --> 01:57:53,920
Speaker 1: I did an interview with him about it, and back

2542
01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:56,560
Speaker 1: then he was normal, he was informative, he was friendly,

2543
01:57:56,680 --> 01:58:00,160
Speaker 1: he was smart, and now you know, this is is

2544
01:58:00,240 --> 01:58:02,600
Speaker 1: what he has become. It's really quite unfortunately.

2545
01:58:02,880 --> 01:58:05,480
Speaker 2: I know he's had injuries that's prevented more MMA fights

2546
01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:08,240
Speaker 2: in theory, but the two times he's fought, he's interesting

2547
01:58:08,320 --> 01:58:11,240
Speaker 2: to watch because of that dominant skill and to just

2548
01:58:11,400 --> 01:58:13,320
Speaker 2: kind of seem like he's giving up and now he's

2549
01:58:13,360 --> 01:58:16,120
Speaker 2: doing like can he box Luke? He's you see his interviews,

2550
01:58:16,200 --> 01:58:18,480
Speaker 2: He's like, can't box, No, we can't. But he's like,

2551
01:58:18,520 --> 01:58:19,960
Speaker 2: you know, cass, I doesn't know what it's like to

2552
01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:21,640
Speaker 2: fight a real fighter. It's like, no, I don't know.

2553
01:58:21,800 --> 01:58:22,520
Speaker 2: Does anybody care?

2554
01:58:22,520 --> 01:58:25,760
Speaker 1: All this ship, all this ship is for simpletons, dude.

2555
01:58:25,960 --> 01:58:28,640
Speaker 2: Well, they're gonna fight in January. Kass I can box

2556
01:58:28,720 --> 01:58:31,120
Speaker 2: a little. If you remember his fights, his boxing matches

2557
01:58:31,160 --> 01:58:33,360
Speaker 2: with Logan Paul. I don't know. Will we watch I

2558
01:58:33,400 --> 01:58:36,680
Speaker 2: don't know. But that's not the last l that Dylan took, Luke.

2559
01:58:36,920 --> 01:58:39,720
Speaker 2: Check out this BBL security guard who gives him the

2560
01:58:39,800 --> 01:58:48,920
Speaker 2: mutumbo when he gets too handsy. No one, no, no, no,

2561
01:58:49,120 --> 01:58:50,720
Speaker 2: not not in not in this house.

2562
01:58:50,880 --> 01:58:54,760
Speaker 1: No. It reminds me of my wife every morning. Familiar

2563
01:58:54,840 --> 01:58:55,040
Speaker 1: to me.

2564
01:58:55,240 --> 01:58:57,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that was accidental. He wasn't pulling the mike

2565
01:58:57,240 --> 01:58:59,440
Speaker 2: bone in the cockpit. That was accidental, it seemed, Luke.

2566
01:58:59,480 --> 01:58:59,720
Speaker 1: But it.

2567
01:59:01,320 --> 01:59:03,400
Speaker 2: All right. Hey, let's rate that tat okay, Luke. A

2568
01:59:03,440 --> 01:59:05,920
Speaker 2: lot of people sending me this, luckily because I deleted

2569
01:59:05,920 --> 01:59:06,320
Speaker 2: all the file.

2570
01:59:06,440 --> 01:59:11,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the worst tattoo I've ever seen. Yeah, I

2571
01:59:11,240 --> 01:59:13,840
Speaker 1: mean this is officially, this is officially an.

2572
01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:16,320
Speaker 2: L My gosh, does that take Anthony Smith's grenade hands

2573
01:59:16,360 --> 01:59:17,320
Speaker 2: off the hook, Luke or what?

2574
01:59:17,600 --> 01:59:19,400
Speaker 1: I don't mind the grenade hands, I don't. I don't

2575
01:59:19,400 --> 01:59:23,320
Speaker 1: mind that at all. Anytime you tattoo the top of

2576
01:59:23,360 --> 01:59:25,760
Speaker 1: a hand, you know you're making a very conscious choice.

2577
01:59:27,080 --> 01:59:29,840
Speaker 1: But this is, uh, this is a hardcore l right here.

2578
01:59:30,040 --> 01:59:33,760
Speaker 2: Luke, Remember when I showed Kubbies fan Josh Montgomery big

2579
01:59:34,040 --> 01:59:37,000
Speaker 2: MK viewer. Remember I showed his slash tattoo too early.

2580
01:59:37,080 --> 01:59:40,880
Speaker 2: Here is the promised finality, So you can make a

2581
01:59:41,040 --> 01:59:42,280
Speaker 2: true statement here on this.

2582
01:59:42,880 --> 01:59:46,160
Speaker 1: Even even now, it's still a little fresh because you

2583
01:59:46,200 --> 01:59:48,520
Speaker 1: can see it's got a purpleish shoe. See that I

2584
01:59:48,680 --> 01:59:51,760
Speaker 1: was a little purple. That's only because it's fresh. I'll

2585
01:59:51,760 --> 01:59:58,480
Speaker 1: say this. It's it's good. It's really good. Yeah, and

2586
01:59:58,720 --> 02:00:00,960
Speaker 1: this is you don't love. Go back full screen for

2587
02:00:01,040 --> 02:00:03,440
Speaker 1: just a second, go back to that. Yeah, I mean

2588
02:00:03,520 --> 02:00:07,160
Speaker 1: the hair is exceptional. Yeah, I mean it's an exceptional tattoo.

2589
02:00:07,240 --> 02:00:09,200
Speaker 1: It's it's it's good. I would have loved to get

2590
02:00:09,280 --> 02:00:10,720
Speaker 1: if I think, if you're gonna do ones like these,

2591
02:00:10,800 --> 02:00:13,080
Speaker 1: I don't prefer them to be black and gray. Also,

2592
02:00:13,200 --> 02:00:15,320
Speaker 1: the right arm is a little jacked a little bit,

2593
02:00:16,760 --> 02:00:19,280
Speaker 1: but in general, this is a this is a quality

2594
02:00:19,320 --> 02:00:20,360
Speaker 1: tattoo in j This.

2595
02:00:20,520 --> 02:00:23,080
Speaker 2: Is a shot of his other arm. Luke, I hope

2596
02:00:23,080 --> 02:00:25,080
Speaker 2: he doesn't mind me showing all this bare parts of

2597
02:00:25,160 --> 02:00:27,080
Speaker 2: his body, but this is badass. He took a couple

2598
02:00:27,200 --> 02:00:30,400
Speaker 2: of the Pink Floyd album cover ideas from Animals Wish

2599
02:00:30,440 --> 02:00:31,960
Speaker 2: You were hair and combine them.

2600
02:00:32,880 --> 02:00:34,600
Speaker 1: So look at the guy on the left's right hand,

2601
02:00:34,640 --> 02:00:36,400
Speaker 1: the one that's doing the handshaking. It looks like he

2602
02:00:36,520 --> 02:00:38,880
Speaker 1: just has a giant fucking banana slug.

2603
02:00:39,240 --> 02:00:42,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, but you know, thematically it's pretty badass.

2604
02:00:43,040 --> 02:00:46,400
Speaker 1: I guess thematically, it's very cool, and I do like

2605
02:00:46,520 --> 02:00:49,160
Speaker 1: the idea. But I'm telling you, man, good tattoos are

2606
02:00:49,200 --> 02:00:50,640
Speaker 1: hard to get. They're not so easy.

2607
02:00:51,680 --> 02:00:53,640
Speaker 2: That guy is a huge fan of great music and MK,

2608
02:00:53,720 --> 02:00:54,560
Speaker 2: so shout out to that guy.

2609
02:00:54,680 --> 02:00:57,280
Speaker 1: All look smoking The album cover he picked is tremendous.

2610
02:00:57,440 --> 02:00:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's smoked him if you got him time check

2611
02:01:00,080 --> 02:01:02,520
Speaker 2: know this from the weed assembly line. This is how

2612
02:01:02,640 --> 02:01:04,360
Speaker 2: pre rolls are made. It's beautiful to watch.

2613
02:01:04,440 --> 02:01:10,640
Speaker 1: Right, Just bury me in this, Please, just bury me

2614
02:01:10,720 --> 02:01:11,960
Speaker 1: in this. I mean, what are we doing?

2615
02:01:13,160 --> 02:01:17,720
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, we should work there, or we should you know,

2616
02:01:17,880 --> 02:01:19,480
Speaker 2: we should go, or we should take the we should

2617
02:01:19,520 --> 02:01:20,800
Speaker 2: take Jake and a camera there.

2618
02:01:20,720 --> 02:01:23,000
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, you can just leave me there.

2619
02:01:23,240 --> 02:01:25,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't need a documentary. You can just drop

2620
02:01:25,760 --> 02:01:26,040
Speaker 2: me off.

2621
02:01:26,200 --> 02:01:28,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be I'll be there and that'll be that.

2622
02:01:28,840 --> 02:01:32,200
Speaker 2: Well, Luke the vapor assembly lines showing a little bit

2623
02:01:32,200 --> 02:01:34,760
Speaker 2: of lack of quality control lately. These are the people

2624
02:01:34,840 --> 02:01:36,080
Speaker 2: that are preparing your habit.

2625
02:01:36,200 --> 02:01:42,520
Speaker 1: Luke, I'm gonna guess this guy doesn't have much to

2626
02:01:42,600 --> 02:01:42,840
Speaker 1: live for.

2627
02:01:43,320 --> 02:01:48,600
Speaker 2: Ye well, he's sampling every uh every douche flu as

2628
02:01:48,680 --> 02:01:51,040
Speaker 2: Michael Kiosa would say, that you put in your body, Luke,

2629
02:01:51,120 --> 02:01:53,640
Speaker 2: that's his job to try them all.

2630
02:01:54,120 --> 02:01:56,960
Speaker 1: Damn he is, boy, they're just spreading those germs. Look

2631
02:01:57,000 --> 02:01:59,520
Speaker 1: at him, he's with that said, are you envious?

2632
02:01:59,600 --> 02:01:59,920
Speaker 2: Do you want to?

2633
02:02:00,440 --> 02:02:00,480
Speaker 1: Like?

2634
02:02:00,720 --> 02:02:01,680
Speaker 2: Would you try it out?

2635
02:02:03,200 --> 02:02:03,840
Speaker 1: Not with them?

2636
02:02:04,280 --> 02:02:07,360
Speaker 2: You could just vape all day, dude, like the conveyor

2637
02:02:08,680 --> 02:02:14,040
Speaker 2: I already do. All right, you're ko of the Week

2638
02:02:14,120 --> 02:02:18,960
Speaker 2: comes from Octagon, the promotion in Europe, and yeah they

2639
02:02:19,080 --> 02:02:23,160
Speaker 2: lost soccer shakes. This is an honor of the World

2640
02:02:23,240 --> 02:02:24,640
Speaker 2: Cup and cutter of course, Luke.

2641
02:02:24,720 --> 02:02:25,880
Speaker 1: This so there you go.

2642
02:02:26,400 --> 02:02:27,640
Speaker 2: There's the golden boot for you.

2643
02:02:27,880 --> 02:02:29,440
Speaker 1: You just have a seat, asshole.

2644
02:02:29,720 --> 02:02:32,360
Speaker 2: Yeah dos booth right and you're in the face. Thank

2645
02:02:32,400 --> 02:02:35,160
Speaker 2: you very much. Hey, look, Merwin Deontay Wilder made out

2646
02:02:35,160 --> 02:02:37,400
Speaker 2: with his own statue. I was seeing if GSP would

2647
02:02:37,400 --> 02:02:38,800
Speaker 2: do the same. Turned out he wouldn't.

2648
02:02:38,800 --> 02:02:41,680
Speaker 1: But you know that's pretty cool matuding on that thing.

2649
02:02:44,760 --> 02:02:46,800
Speaker 1: Although it's not it's not it's not bad. It's pretty

2650
02:02:46,800 --> 02:02:47,200
Speaker 1: well done.

2651
02:02:47,560 --> 02:02:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, they should have put him in those jorts he

2652
02:02:49,400 --> 02:02:52,240
Speaker 2: was wearing when he called out Matt Hughes that time. Yeah,

2653
02:02:52,240 --> 02:02:54,280
Speaker 2: that had been great. All right, Uh, let's go to

2654
02:02:54,800 --> 02:02:57,240
Speaker 2: I know you hate gender reveals, but is this one cool?

2655
02:03:04,080 --> 02:03:10,320
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus kick, I mean just the stupidest fucking Oh.

2656
02:03:10,200 --> 02:03:11,960
Speaker 2: That's pretty decent, dude, that's pretty cool.

2657
02:03:12,160 --> 02:03:15,840
Speaker 1: It's kind of here's my gender reveal. It's a boy. Congrats.

2658
02:03:16,120 --> 02:03:18,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, dude, that guy went up with two hands

2659
02:03:18,640 --> 02:03:19,480
Speaker 2: and dunk that shit.

2660
02:03:19,640 --> 02:03:21,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got, he's got. I mean he's at the

2661
02:03:21,280 --> 02:03:22,400
Speaker 1: local park hanging on the rim.

2662
02:03:22,480 --> 02:03:24,360
Speaker 2: But his wife through the lob too. I mean, you

2663
02:03:24,400 --> 02:03:26,360
Speaker 2: could have gone to a nicer facility, but maybe that's

2664
02:03:26,400 --> 02:03:27,160
Speaker 2: all they got, Luke.

2665
02:03:27,200 --> 02:03:30,640
Speaker 1: Okay, or just don't do shit like this.

2666
02:03:31,000 --> 02:03:34,160
Speaker 2: You can just do that big weekend or big time

2667
02:03:34,240 --> 02:03:37,560
Speaker 2: in sports and combat sports for the Poetons. Here's his sister,

2668
02:03:37,720 --> 02:03:43,760
Speaker 2: Aileen Pereira pareda making her MMA debut with po Aton

2669
02:03:43,840 --> 02:03:45,680
Speaker 2: in her corner, and she got dropped. Luke.

2670
02:03:46,720 --> 02:03:48,160
Speaker 1: Although did you see the part where she gave her

2671
02:03:48,200 --> 02:03:49,160
Speaker 1: opponent middle fingers.

2672
02:03:49,720 --> 02:03:53,160
Speaker 2: Uh don't, yeah, don't, don't don't spoil the content, Luke.

2673
02:03:53,240 --> 02:03:55,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, so this is Aleen Pereira Pereira.

2674
02:03:55,800 --> 02:03:59,200
Speaker 1: Pareda well, Hey dude, her older brother lost his MMA

2675
02:03:59,320 --> 02:04:00,080
Speaker 1: debut too, so.

2676
02:04:00,320 --> 02:04:03,320
Speaker 2: There you go. Well she also showed tribute to the

2677
02:04:03,400 --> 02:04:06,320
Speaker 2: Diaz brothers. Of course. Was this a contentious fight? I

2678
02:04:06,360 --> 02:04:07,080
Speaker 2: didn't see the fight?

2679
02:04:07,280 --> 02:04:10,000
Speaker 1: Was it? I don't remember being super contentious?

2680
02:04:10,200 --> 02:04:12,760
Speaker 2: Uh oh, maybe that's just how they rolled down there, Luke,

2681
02:04:12,920 --> 02:04:13,200
Speaker 2: this is.

2682
02:04:13,200 --> 02:04:14,720
Speaker 1: How BC grease. Do you want to ask for a

2683
02:04:14,840 --> 02:04:15,960
Speaker 1: huge pretty much?

2684
02:04:16,480 --> 02:04:19,240
Speaker 2: Hey, but big upset at at the LFA one forty

2685
02:04:19,280 --> 02:04:23,320
Speaker 2: seven card, And how about this highlight? Half ael Do Nasimento.

2686
02:04:24,600 --> 02:04:26,880
Speaker 2: He kicked Justin Wetzel right in the face and they're

2687
02:04:26,920 --> 02:04:28,800
Speaker 2: telling me this is a big upset, Luke, your thoughts.

2688
02:04:29,160 --> 02:04:32,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is actually a teammate of e Ca c Lydon,

2689
02:04:32,600 --> 02:04:36,560
Speaker 1: the videographer. Damn nice, it's a nice win, bro.

2690
02:04:37,320 --> 02:04:42,080
Speaker 2: Halfayel Dose Nasimento was the guy's name, John, Yeah, something

2691
02:04:42,200 --> 02:04:45,040
Speaker 2: like that. Damn he just kicked the guy in the face. Wow.

2692
02:04:45,280 --> 02:04:48,000
Speaker 2: All right, let's see this. Uh, let's see what happens

2693
02:04:48,040 --> 02:04:48,760
Speaker 2: on the street corner here.

2694
02:04:48,840 --> 02:04:50,840
Speaker 1: Let's let's watch this is this kike gonna get hit

2695
02:04:50,880 --> 02:04:52,040
Speaker 1: by like a dump truck or something.

2696
02:04:58,040 --> 02:05:02,440
Speaker 2: Oh shit, so that you're it, bitch, You're supposed to

2697
02:05:02,480 --> 02:05:05,080
Speaker 2: hear the audio they called. He said, what's up to

2698
02:05:05,160 --> 02:05:07,040
Speaker 2: that girl? She like made fun of him and then

2699
02:05:07,080 --> 02:05:07,800
Speaker 2: he took her out.

2700
02:05:09,800 --> 02:05:10,680
Speaker 1: Oh that's sick.

2701
02:05:11,320 --> 02:05:12,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty sick.

2702
02:05:12,600 --> 02:05:15,000
Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, who said chivalry is dead?

2703
02:05:15,120 --> 02:05:18,560
Speaker 2: Huh no? No, hey, Luke. Friend of the program, Giovanni Marquez.

2704
02:05:18,600 --> 02:05:20,320
Speaker 2: You know that twenty one year old boxer, son of

2705
02:05:20,360 --> 02:05:23,520
Speaker 2: a legend. He improved to four and oh in Texas

2706
02:05:23,600 --> 02:05:33,240
Speaker 2: on Saturday. Watch this knockout from Geo. That's Geo on

2707
02:05:33,280 --> 02:05:34,040
Speaker 2: the ropes right now.

2708
02:05:34,480 --> 02:05:37,320
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, let's see.

2709
02:05:40,400 --> 02:05:43,480
Speaker 2: Finish him, finish him.

2710
02:05:44,880 --> 02:05:50,040
Speaker 1: Oh Lord, stuck him with the right woo.

2711
02:05:50,400 --> 02:05:54,360
Speaker 2: It's assault, brother, I mean, come on, coach Raphael Marquez

2712
02:05:54,920 --> 02:05:57,600
Speaker 2: El Diamante improving to four and oh with with with

2713
02:05:57,760 --> 02:06:00,960
Speaker 2: him as well? So shout out too. They call himselves

2714
02:06:01,040 --> 02:06:02,680
Speaker 2: T M. T. Luke, the Marquez Team.

2715
02:06:03,240 --> 02:06:08,240
Speaker 1: You know, does it stand for anything besides I'm right

2716
02:06:08,280 --> 02:06:08,840
Speaker 1: here one more time.

2717
02:06:09,040 --> 02:06:11,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a hell of a shout Damn.

2718
02:06:11,600 --> 02:06:13,320
Speaker 1: Damn sat him down?

2719
02:06:13,960 --> 02:06:15,560
Speaker 2: All right? Hey, do you look at the unit on

2720
02:06:15,680 --> 02:06:23,800
Speaker 2: this squash? Lukey impressed? I mean, it's incredible, right, it's

2721
02:06:23,880 --> 02:06:31,280
Speaker 2: it's it's fall fair season. All right, mom is mom

2722
02:06:31,440 --> 02:06:36,720
Speaker 2: is is skankyh yeah, that's that's interesting. All right, Hey,

2723
02:06:36,760 --> 02:06:37,440
Speaker 2: look how about this?

2724
02:06:37,680 --> 02:06:39,680
Speaker 1: How high off of edibles? Is she? Right there?

2725
02:06:40,200 --> 02:06:42,000
Speaker 2: I think this is just her natural you know she's

2726
02:06:42,000 --> 02:06:45,600
Speaker 2: impressed by head. Yeah, who's that? Gaff says. She looks

2727
02:06:45,640 --> 02:06:47,400
Speaker 2: like the mom from Bob's Burgers? Can you can?

2728
02:06:47,560 --> 02:06:47,720
Speaker 1: Can?

2729
02:06:48,040 --> 02:06:48,600
Speaker 2: Can you? Uh?

2730
02:06:49,640 --> 02:06:53,000
Speaker 1: You think? And no one besides Gaff watches Bob's Burgers.

2731
02:06:55,320 --> 02:06:58,680
Speaker 2: Uh, Luke, check out this hospital recommendation. I think it's

2732
02:06:58,720 --> 02:07:00,160
Speaker 2: you know, they're honest with their people.

2733
02:07:01,880 --> 02:07:04,800
Speaker 1: You know what. That's fair, that's fair. Don't want to

2734
02:07:04,840 --> 02:07:06,800
Speaker 1: get pregnant, just do anal you know?

2735
02:07:07,280 --> 02:07:10,960
Speaker 2: Here it is there, it is finally somebody said it finally. Okay.

2736
02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:13,960
Speaker 2: Besides clause at that time, remember wow, remember that, Luke.

2737
02:07:14,240 --> 02:07:15,800
Speaker 1: Hey, let's be really aggressive about it.

2738
02:07:16,080 --> 02:07:18,280
Speaker 2: Let's bring back the punch machine. We always get great

2739
02:07:18,440 --> 02:07:19,560
Speaker 2: l o ls from that check out.

2740
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Speaker 1: Is this old man about to bite it from this one?

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02:07:22,360 --> 02:07:24,520
Speaker 1: I bet he is? Yeah?

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02:07:26,080 --> 02:07:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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02:07:28,680 --> 02:07:32,200
Speaker 1: Realized like the average person has the worst balance ever.

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02:07:33,240 --> 02:07:36,040
Speaker 2: Well, let's see, let's rate the balance in paunching pow

2745
02:07:36,120 --> 02:07:38,880
Speaker 2: or excuse me, I said that weird of six foot

2746
02:07:38,920 --> 02:07:47,640
Speaker 2: seven boxing promoter Eddie Hearn. Dude, he hit that hard, Yeah,

2747
02:07:47,800 --> 02:07:48,160
Speaker 2: not bad.

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Speaker 1: Put a little steam on it. Put a little steam

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Speaker 1: on it.

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Speaker 2: Yep. So Eddie tells a great story that he said

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02:07:54,960 --> 02:07:57,080
Speaker 2: when he was a teenager, his dad, Barry, who's a

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02:07:57,240 --> 02:07:59,440
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame promoter, took him in the boxing ring

2753
02:07:59,520 --> 02:08:01,920
Speaker 2: to kind of like teeth, you know, make him a man.

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02:08:02,440 --> 02:08:04,720
Speaker 2: And Eddie claims to have dropped his dad with a

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02:08:04,760 --> 02:08:07,280
Speaker 2: body shot and ever since then, like his dad knew that.

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02:08:07,680 --> 02:08:11,520
Speaker 2: You know, Eddie was coming on, Luke, Yeah, you and

2757
02:08:11,600 --> 02:08:12,840
Speaker 2: your dad should recreate that.

2758
02:08:14,760 --> 02:08:16,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to drop my dad with a body shot.

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02:08:17,000 --> 02:08:18,160
Speaker 1: I mean, my dad's eighty two.

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02:08:18,480 --> 02:08:22,880
Speaker 2: It might be therapeutic in the long run, right, all right, Luke,

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02:08:23,000 --> 02:08:25,960
Speaker 2: let's close with heout some pinata kid abuse. This is

2762
02:08:26,920 --> 02:08:27,960
Speaker 2: what kind of parent does this?

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02:08:30,200 --> 02:08:34,680
Speaker 1: I mean, my guy, you're supposed to have the kid

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02:08:34,840 --> 02:08:36,760
Speaker 1: hit the pinata with the bat and not hit the

2765
02:08:36,800 --> 02:08:41,880
Speaker 1: pinata with the kid. Yeah. Look, guarantee these people did

2766
02:08:41,920 --> 02:08:45,440
Speaker 1: like a dumb ass gender reveal when this kid was formed.

2767
02:08:46,080 --> 02:08:48,400
Speaker 2: You know those conspiracy theorists that always say, like all

2768
02:08:48,440 --> 02:08:51,120
Speaker 2: the Disney logos have like secret penises, hiding inside them

2769
02:08:51,160 --> 02:08:54,240
Speaker 2: and like it's all like, you know, a big conspiracy.

2770
02:08:56,960 --> 02:08:57,840
Speaker 1: I can't say that I do.

2771
02:08:58,240 --> 02:09:00,560
Speaker 2: Uh, all right, well it turns out they were right.

2772
02:09:00,960 --> 02:09:03,600
Speaker 2: Look at what these hidden cameras found at disney World.

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02:09:07,880 --> 02:09:13,520
Speaker 1: Dude, What the fuck is this? This is not Disney World, dude,

2774
02:09:13,560 --> 02:09:18,280
Speaker 1: what the fuck is this? Just just the dong factory?

2775
02:09:18,440 --> 02:09:23,520
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, yeah, I don't I don't know what to

2776
02:09:23,600 --> 02:09:25,840
Speaker 2: call it. Look, it's incredible though, right, I mean you'd

2777
02:09:25,880 --> 02:09:27,880
Speaker 2: only see that ship on this segment, right, That's what

2778
02:09:27,960 --> 02:09:28,680
Speaker 2: I can guarantee you.

2779
02:09:28,800 --> 02:09:30,040
Speaker 1: Really, this is the worst show.

2780
02:09:30,200 --> 02:09:32,840
Speaker 2: They don't play this video on Aerial Show ever, not

2781
02:09:33,040 --> 02:09:33,480
Speaker 2: one time.

2782
02:09:33,600 --> 02:09:35,440
Speaker 1: Luke. Okay, yeah probably not, probably not.

2783
02:09:35,960 --> 02:09:37,640
Speaker 2: All right, that's my ship of the week. Sorry I

2784
02:09:37,720 --> 02:09:39,760
Speaker 2: lost the good ship. That was my replacement. Stuff.

2785
02:09:39,840 --> 02:09:43,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, very good. B See, Well that is it for

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02:09:43,320 --> 02:09:46,120
Speaker 1: us here today. Want to remind folks we're back Wednesday, right,

2787
02:09:46,160 --> 02:09:50,200
Speaker 1: we are doing a Wednesday show. However, inadvisable, Yeah, Wednesday

2788
02:09:50,240 --> 02:09:52,880
Speaker 1: show that we're not going to watch probably thefl Championships.

2789
02:09:52,920 --> 02:09:55,200
Speaker 2: Yeah we get. There's a good boxing fight this weekend too.

2790
02:09:55,320 --> 02:09:57,600
Speaker 2: It's on pay per view. Unfortunately it's Rugaroo dude.

2791
02:09:57,680 --> 02:09:59,480
Speaker 1: Right, you know the Rugaroo is back.

2792
02:09:59,560 --> 02:10:02,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna be a good ass title fight at one.

2793
02:10:02,600 --> 02:10:06,240
Speaker 2: But as Mikey just reminded us, Friday, we will have

2794
02:10:06,320 --> 02:10:08,840
Speaker 2: a show. We will answer your mail bag questions, right.

2795
02:10:09,360 --> 02:10:10,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what you got to do is you got

2796
02:10:11,080 --> 02:10:13,720
Speaker 1: to send out tweets to get questions. We'll put some

2797
02:10:13,920 --> 02:10:16,240
Speaker 1: up and you can also email us Morning Combat at

2798
02:10:16,280 --> 02:10:19,560
Speaker 1: gmail dot com. Tweet us, email us whatever you got

2799
02:10:19,680 --> 02:10:21,600
Speaker 1: to do. We'll take those questions with a Friday mail

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02:10:21,600 --> 02:10:21,880
Speaker 1: bag and.

2801
02:10:22,040 --> 02:10:25,480
Speaker 2: Don't email us like you know, would Abib have beaten

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Speaker 2: Charlie Olives like you know, We're gonna do a fun

2803
02:10:28,080 --> 02:10:30,560
Speaker 2: holiday show with you. Okay, all right, you know what

2804
02:10:30,640 --> 02:10:31,320
Speaker 2: we're talking about.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm trying to think there's anything else that we

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02:10:34,080 --> 02:10:35,720
Speaker 1: had to get to that I was reminded of. I

2807
02:10:35,760 --> 02:10:37,000
Speaker 1: think that's it. I think that's it.

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Speaker 2: your husband in that bomber jacket already. I mean, he's

2817
02:11:03,720 --> 02:11:05,240
Speaker 2: gonna look fantastic.

2818
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Speaker 1: Right, I guarantee it all right?

2819
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Speaker 1: Or that there's not a doubt in my mind. I

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Speaker 1: Thanks everyone who watched. We'll be back on Wednesday. We

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Speaker 1: got you covered the whole week. As a matter of fact,

2829
02:11:33,400 --> 02:11:36,560
Speaker 1: tomorrow the Anthony Smith Room Service Diaries comes out. So

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Speaker 1: their YouTube dot com slash Morning Combat. And that's it today.

2833
02:11:43,560 --> 02:11:45,560
Speaker 2: So I got one more breaking news announcement. It was

2834
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Speaker 2: supposed to be tomorrow, but I don't know if I'm

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02:11:47,080 --> 02:11:49,080
Speaker 2: gonna do it tomorrow. But look, people, I've asked for it,

2836
02:11:49,720 --> 02:11:53,200
Speaker 2: and it's gonna happen like within like a week or so. Okay,

2837
02:11:54,240 --> 02:11:56,000
Speaker 2: the BC live chat is going to be a real thing,

2838
02:11:56,200 --> 02:11:58,040
Speaker 2: you know, not not every day, not every week, but

2839
02:11:58,120 --> 02:11:59,880
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a real thing. Okay, we're gonna work.

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Speaker 1: Can happen.

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02:12:00,920 --> 02:12:03,280
Speaker 2: You told the people to speak to me if they

2842
02:12:03,400 --> 02:12:05,920
Speaker 2: want it, Luke. They seem to really want it now,

2843
02:12:05,920 --> 02:12:07,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're you know, if that is,

2844
02:12:07,480 --> 02:12:08,960
Speaker 2: if it's going to do the same type of traffic

2845
02:12:09,000 --> 02:12:11,800
Speaker 2: that our docs do. Disappointingly, I mean, that's soul crushing

2846
02:12:12,400 --> 02:12:14,919
Speaker 2: the amount of traffic our docs do, given how brilliant

2847
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Speaker 2: they are.

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02:12:15,520 --> 02:12:18,240
Speaker 1: They are brilliant, but much people just people just want

2849
02:12:18,400 --> 02:12:20,880
Speaker 1: to talk about Connor. Really is really the answer there?

2850
02:12:21,640 --> 02:12:25,440
Speaker 1: All right? So for BC, for Malka, Showtime Sports as

2851
02:12:25,480 --> 02:12:27,400
Speaker 1: well as CBS Sports, We're out for today. We'll see

2852
02:12:27,400 --> 02:12:30,240
Speaker 1: you guys on Wednesday. Room service diaries tomorrow, and until then,

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Speaker 1: may all of your gains be loyal.