1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. Today we 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 2: have a special guest who I never met before, but 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: she did an interview with Ben back during her season. 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 3: It is Ariel Frankl. Hello and welcome to the show. 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 3: We're so glad to have you back. 8 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 4: I'm so excited to be back. 9 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 5: We interview people all the time on the show, Aerol. 10 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 5: Why do you make me nervous? 11 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 4: Yeah? 12 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: I know she I may have put makeup on early 13 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: because Ariel. 14 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 3: Is coming on, do I Yes, Yeah, make. 15 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 6: Me nervous, like maybe intimidation. 16 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 5: Maybe it's like I think when the first time we spoke, 17 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 5: like we had a good conversation, but I feel like 18 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 5: you were like there was a like something defensive going 19 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 5: on at time, so you were like protecting a little 20 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 5: bit and you were like questioning me back and I was. 21 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 4: Like, oh was I I don't. 22 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 5: Know if I just in my mind, yes, preparing for this, 23 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 5: I was nervous and I never get nervous. 24 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 6: But we're so happy you're here. 25 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 4: I'm so happy to be here. Eric. A lot of 26 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 4: people say that to me. 27 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 7: People think that I'm both people that know me think 28 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 7: this is really funny that people categorize me as mysterious 29 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 7: or intimidating. But I think I just sometimes say less. 30 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 7: It depends on how much much I've had, and right 31 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 7: now I've had a. 32 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: Lot, so okay, so let me say this on Zoom 33 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: right now, you're coming across a little less intimidating than 34 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 2: I thought you were on the show on Zach season. 35 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: If you guys don't remember, she was the third place 36 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: on Zach season and you were definitely like the sexy 37 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: girl like everybody. I think we called you like sex 38 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: panther part two. 39 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 3: That's like I'll take it that. 40 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you've got that like sultry voice and like 41 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: just the dark features. You're just like meeah right, and 42 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: and you still are like that right now on Zoom, 43 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: but I have smiling You're like brighter and little less mysterious. 44 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: But you also present yourself very sultry on Instagram. I 45 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 2: feel like, yeah, you document your dating life in a very. 46 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 3: Well, I don't want to use the word more serious again, 47 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 3: but like kind of cryptic way. 48 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 7: I am kind of cryptic online sometimes well I feel 49 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 7: like Instagram is more cryptic and TikTok is more open. 50 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 4: Okay, and I do. 51 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 7: I feel like the two platforms are very different. So 52 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 7: on TikTok, I'm a little. 53 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 4: Bit more like playful and don't really care as much. 54 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 7: But I feel like Instagram has this like impression that 55 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 7: you can't really give too much sometimes unless I'm doing 56 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 7: a Q and A. When it comes to dating, I 57 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 7: feel like I'm oddly kind of private because the people 58 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 7: that I actually like to actively date are very private, okay, 59 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 7: so I always have to kind of respect their privacy 60 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 7: and the what I do publicly, I keep them hidden always. 61 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 7: I've had boyfriends for like two years, even before the show, 62 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 7: I probably post them once, so dou to. 63 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 6: Request well this, I mean, this kicks me off. My 64 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 6: first question. You have a comment about dating older men. 65 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 5: It's I think it was something along the lines that 66 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 5: it's great until it's not. And I'm not going to 67 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 5: ask a lot of follow ups to try to like 68 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,399 Speaker 5: figure out what you mean by that. I just want 69 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 5: you to explain what you mean by that and why 70 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 5: this was even something you thought you should bring to 71 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 5: the public's attention. 72 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 7: I know, I like really tapped into the in cells 73 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 7: for that. Then the thumb cells are defending me. 74 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 4: She's not that old, she's in her forties, and she 75 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 4: still got it. I was like, you guys are not 76 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 4: helping me. It's not like the defense that I want. 77 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 7: They're like, she's fifty five, nothing wrong with that age, 78 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 7: but that's just not Hilda Am. I had a drafts 79 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 7: file when everyone thought TikTok was going to be banned. 80 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 4: Who knows where it's even at. 81 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 7: Right now, And I just made all these drafts one night, 82 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 7: and that was one of them because I had had 83 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 7: a period of time where I was randomly going out 84 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 7: with When I say older man, it's like under fifty. 85 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 7: Not talking about people that will be in Golden Bachelor, 86 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 7: if you will, even though I guess the beach is 87 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 7: going to be mixed. But I think that there is 88 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 7: a certain archetype, particularly in New York City and in 89 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 7: certain cities where guys reached out like mid forties, and 90 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 7: I find that they don't necessarily evolve, and they start 91 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 7: dating younger and younger and younger. 92 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 4: And that's not every man. 93 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 7: That's not every man miss forties and so on, but 94 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 7: there is this like single guy with a certain level 95 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 7: of affluence and exposure and all these things that they 96 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 7: are very. 97 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 4: Immature and a little. 98 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 7: Bit narcissistic and so on, and I just had a 99 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 7: few experiences back to back. This It's a random draft 100 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 7: that I was making, but it really like blew up 101 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 7: on both platforms, and I didn't think it would cause 102 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 7: such a stir. I thought i'd probably archive it, but 103 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 7: people really had a lot to say, and a lot 104 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 7: of people trauma dumped and really got in there. 105 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 4: So I'm clearly not the only one that's had that experience. 106 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 7: But I find it's like a misconception that if someone 107 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 7: is older or of a certain age, that they're ready 108 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 7: for marriage, ready for a partnership, or ready for these things. 109 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 7: And it's also a misconcepted if someone hasn't been married 110 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 7: by a certain point that they're not. But I find 111 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 7: that a lot of certain guys, particularly in New York 112 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 7: and what I'm exposed to, I find that they are 113 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 7: not ready for even a relationship at all. 114 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,679 Speaker 4: And I was kind of starting to see why. 115 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 3: I can't understand that with the New York City Bachelor. 116 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: Now, somebody who's older than you, I don't think he's 117 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: close to fifty, but he he's definitely in his forties, 118 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: is criminal minds. Matthew Gray Goobler. You went on a 119 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 2: date with him and he has like the nerdiest aura. 120 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: What's he like in real life? 121 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 7: Well, we were just friendly, he is. He's like a 122 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 7: very sweet guy. That video is not about him, by 123 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,239 Speaker 7: the way. His aura is very. 124 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 4: Similar to what people anticipate. 125 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 7: He's just like a nice, sweet guy and very aloof 126 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 7: and quirky and kind of all the things that he 127 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 7: presents himself. 128 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: As any other celebrity guys you've dated. 129 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 4: I've signed so many n das I'll ever say. 130 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 6: Oh, it's so good. 131 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 5: I love that response, so you prepared for that goodness? 132 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 4: No way to like avoid the question. I like to 133 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 4: protect people, So if I'm going to date someone, That's. 134 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 7: Why I keep things very vague, because I just find 135 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 7: that if you ever, even if I were to give 136 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 7: like extreme details of an experience, someone will have some 137 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 7: sort of response, and I just don't want to air 138 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 7: someone's laundry. I'll talk about how they affected me and 139 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 7: my experiences or like how they've. 140 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 4: Shaped me and things like that. But I just think 141 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 4: like bashing exes or bashing people that I've gotten. 142 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 7: To know for a period of time, whether we ended 143 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 7: in a bad way or not, just as like a 144 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 7: bad reflection on me. So I just find like going 145 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 7: down that road is just never going to be a 146 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 7: good thing for me, or. 147 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 4: For them, or for anyone. 148 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 7: And I think everyone has very different experiences when people 149 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 7: break up and so on, So I think I could 150 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 7: give a lot of like t and all these things, 151 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 7: but just like wouldn't really be the same, like if 152 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 7: everyone leaves a breakup with the same like a different 153 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 7: experience ultimately. 154 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 6: Be I think, Okay, this is a two part question 155 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 6: for you. 156 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 5: It's going to go back to what we were just 157 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 5: talking about, but then I want to give some insight 158 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 5: into how this dating world is working for you. 159 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 6: It's always interesting. 160 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 5: And I could name about four names I was thinking of, 161 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 5: and I'm not going to compare them with you or 162 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 5: to you, because you're all different, but you all kind 163 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 5: of have this similar sophistication, the similar outlook on life, 164 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 5: similar kind of vibe when we watch you on television, 165 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 5: and I always think it's interesting that you chose to 166 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 5: go on this show. It feels I don't want to 167 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 5: say beneath you because I was a bachelor. That would 168 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 5: be a very bad dis to me, and Ashley. 169 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 4: You also signed it an NDA. 170 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, it does feel weird for you to say yes 171 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 5: to it. It feels weird for you to agree to it, 172 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 5: especially with what we've just been talking about. 173 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 6: Why did you say yes? 174 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 7: So? 175 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 4: I have two sides to my personality. 176 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 7: I have a serious side and a side that needs 177 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 7: to step up in certain ways, whether it be professional 178 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 7: or whatever it is. But I also have a side 179 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 7: that is way too impulsive and just kind of says 180 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 7: yes because I would like to have a lot of 181 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 7: life experiences before I settle down or do certain things 182 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 7: or get to like a certain. 183 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 4: Phase of my life. 184 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 7: So my friend applied me, and I got a call 185 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 7: so quickly that I honestly didn't even really have time 186 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 7: to think about it. So I kind of did it 187 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 7: because they also breadcrumbed me a bit, Like they called 188 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,559 Speaker 7: me in May and I thought it was a straight 189 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 7: like I thought it was a completely unrelated person calling, 190 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 7: and then they would call me every two weeks, so 191 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 7: they kind of treated me like a dating situation. 192 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 4: Was kind of like a guy where like. 193 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 7: Every time I thought they forgot about me or were 194 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 7: an interested or I was about to take another job, 195 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 7: or like I was about to work in the startup space, 196 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 7: and I was holding off interviews because this summer they 197 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 7: if they started calling me in May, I didn't get 198 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 7: a call that I was officially on the show until 199 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 7: September or mid September, so it was like this bread 200 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 7: crumbing back and forth, and by the time I actually 201 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 7: got the call, I was like, why not. Honestly, the 202 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 7: dating scene is so bad in New York, I might 203 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 7: as well pursue an opportunity where I'm going to meet 204 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 7: someone that is so outside of the people I've been 205 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 7: exposed to that like, no matter what happens, all I 206 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 7: grow as a person, or I'll meet my partner or 207 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 7: something good will come out of it. So I didn't 208 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 7: really have like I had a lot of time to 209 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 7: like think, but because it was like every three weeks 210 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 7: or every two weeks or things like that, every time 211 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 7: I forgot about them, I was then re reminded, so 212 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 7: I didn't get to like it wasn't like in May, 213 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 7: I like have four months to think about it. I 214 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 7: had two weeks before I had to leave for the show, 215 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 7: so I didn't really get to like overthink it too much. 216 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 5: The fault that is you're off the show now you 217 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 5: said yes to it. You're talking about you're dating in 218 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 5: New York. It does feel like you're actively dating, like 219 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 5: you're going on cool dates, you're making friendships. At times 220 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 5: you're calling them like you're friendly or whatever. But you're 221 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 5: out there, you're like hanging. 222 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 6: Out with people. How are you meeting people? 223 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 5: Because the common thing we hear on this show and 224 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 5: even outside of the show is it's not the going 225 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 5: on a date that's hard, that it's finding even a 226 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 5: date to go on that's the most difficult. 227 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 6: So how are you even finding these people to go 228 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 6: on dates with? 229 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 4: Well, they kind of find me. 230 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 7: I feel like I go out, I say yes to 231 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 7: a lot of opportunities, even like the worst event that 232 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 7: I'm invited to, it's like, I don't know, like a 233 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 7: taco stand opening, Like I will say yes a lot 234 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 7: of the time, and I will meet people randomly through 235 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 7: things like that. So I'm just more of a yes 236 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 7: man still. And that's what got me into the show 237 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 7: and what has also got me into different dating situations. 238 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 7: And I think that in going out all the time, 239 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 7: you're going to meet a lot of people, whether that 240 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 7: be like a friend that then introduces you to someone 241 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 7: and they're like, I have someone that's great for you, 242 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 7: even if you don't vibe with someone. I think that 243 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 7: the more you just say yes to plans of different things, 244 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 7: the more you'll meet people. But there's definitely a drought 245 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 7: happening where I'm not even going on as many dates 246 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 7: as I used to. And there's this like weird March drought, 247 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 7: like post February, post pre summer, like there is a drought. 248 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 4: I have not been on a date in a minute. 249 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 3: It's not coughing season and it's not summer fleeing. 250 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 4: No. 251 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 7: I'm compiling a list of all the weird messages men 252 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 7: have sent me and I might make a TikTok about it, 253 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 7: because like it's been a weird dry season and I 254 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 7: feel like people have been really. 255 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 4: There's been no one that's like interested me in a 256 00:10:59,120 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 4: long time. 257 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 6: Hmm. 258 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: So we had some of your girls you have a 259 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: girl crew from Zach season. Yeah, And we had you 260 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: guys go away on trips like every couple of months. 261 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: It's really awesome. We had a few on a month 262 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 2: or so ago. I think it was a Gallantine' say 263 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: episode and they were like, they're like, oh, Ariel will 264 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: date anyone like she has a wide range of taste, 265 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: like wink face, Is there any illusion in this there? 266 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 7: Okay, the girls make fun of me because I have 267 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 7: a thousand different types, Like I genuinely don't have a type, 268 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 7: but I have a particular type that they think is 269 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 7: really funny because I kind of like sometimes I don't 270 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 7: actually end up dating them full on, but like like 271 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 7: pre dating if you will, like not boyfriend or girlfriends, yeah, 272 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 7: because those are very different. I have a type that 273 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 7: like wears very high waisted pants, has like an earring, 274 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 7: is very hipster, is like a starving artist kind of vibe. 275 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 4: Huh. So I have like this type that they just 276 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 4: don't relate to it all. So I guess they're more 277 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 4: into like jocks and things like that. 278 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 7: And I have a type that is like very hipster 279 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 7: sometimes like don't swear peak of New York, like these 280 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 7: guys that are like smoking a cigarette in the back 281 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 7: of an alley way being like with a weird accent 282 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 7: that you can't identify even though they're from the States. 283 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 7: So they all make fun of like, I guess my 284 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 7: international taste because. 285 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 4: I like guys. 286 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, never mind. 287 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: They made it seem way juicier than this, Like you 288 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: had some secrets. 289 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 4: I definitely have a lot of secrets, but. 290 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 7: I can't really keep my own secrets, so I can 291 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 7: keep other people, so it's like mutually shared. 292 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 5: In another life, I think I would have, like if 293 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 5: I had a better hairline, like grow my hair out 294 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 5: and in rock that vibe. 295 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 6: Like I see myself in that guy. 296 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 3: I'm like, I think, yeah, that's not a weird type 297 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 3: to me. 298 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 2: Like I grew up with my sister that's that's her 299 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: type to a tea, but she's not marrying that type currently. 300 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 7: It's hard to marry that type unless they're like secretly 301 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 7: like doing some sort of side hustle or something else 302 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 7: and they're like secretly like they're all kind of lovers, 303 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 7: but they love women too much. 304 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 4: If you will so they will see you then your 305 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 4: best friend and all these things. Yeah, so there is 306 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 4: like an issue that type. 307 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 7: But the girls think it's so funny because like they're 308 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 7: very like fem guys that I've been out with, and 309 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 7: they kind of dress very feminine. 310 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 4: Sometimes there was photos that came out. 311 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 7: Of a French guy that I was seeing in like 312 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 7: full like a dress and everything, but oddly a part 313 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 7: of me thinks that's very masculine. So like if people 314 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 7: can make fun and poke fun of certain things, so 315 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 7: too boring. 316 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 6: I'm so boring. 317 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 5: We're in a backwards hat and like I look good today, 318 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 5: that's boring. 319 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 2: Everything is every girl likes a backwards hat and a 320 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: guy's a sweatshirt, Like that's probably the most universally liked 321 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: thing you could wear. 322 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 4: It is. And also depending on the earring, Yeah, it 323 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 4: really depends for me. 324 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, I walked into a party the other day and 325 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 7: everyone had an earring on. 326 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 4: I was like, in a high waisted pain, so are 327 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 4: they making fun of me? Everyone was from a different 328 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 4: part of Europe what it is? 329 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 5: So I was like, hello, okay, wild question here. So 330 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 5: we've talked about all that and I think we've prepared 331 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 5: ourselves for this moment. You mentioned Paradise briefly there. I 332 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 5: guess the first question is would you say yes? And 333 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 5: then second, would you be the one that would maybe 334 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 5: go on a date with one of the goldens? 335 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 7: You would think based on that TikTok probably yeah, I 336 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 7: don't think so. I think above the highest that I have. 337 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 7: I mean, I went out with a fifty year old 338 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 7: We did not kiss old. 339 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 3: How old are you? 340 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 4: I'm thirty? Okay, No, I don't think so. I had 341 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 4: no offense to them. 342 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 7: I think I learned a lot from older men and 343 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 7: they offer a lot of information knowledge, But to actually 344 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 7: date someone in their fifties or sixties is just not 345 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 7: what I'm looking for. 346 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 6: Okay, would you say yes to Paradise? So you didn't 347 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 6: answer that question, I know I screweded it. 348 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 3: That's all we need to know. 349 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 6: Moving on. 350 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 4: I'm definitely open to it. 351 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 7: I feel like I'm again kind of in a similar 352 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 7: phase I was in when I first of the show. 353 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 7: I'm in a very open place now. I'm very open 354 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 7: to new experiences. Again, it's like a drought out here. 355 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 7: I can't even find a hipster to kiss, so not 356 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 7: that I'll find one on the beach, but I I'm 357 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 7: very open minded right now. So I'm definitely open to 358 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 7: doing Paradise. I'm definitely open to new experiences right now 359 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 7: and meeting new people. It just depends if there's people 360 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 7: on the beach that are actually serious about that. 361 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 6: Ashlely. 362 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 5: I'll say this after the last couple weeks of interviews 363 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 5: leading out the Paradise. 364 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 6: These dudes are gonna be very lucky. 365 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: Well, I'm sorry, it's always the guys are the luckier half. 366 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 5: I mean, if theirs do you say yes, especially from 367 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 5: like Zach season and you know the season of Grants 368 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 5: that we just watched. Yeah, like those dudes are gonna 369 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 5: be like they're gonna they're gonna be nervous like the 370 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 5: whole time. 371 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 6: It's gonna be the best. 372 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 4: Nervous as they should be. 373 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, I even I haven't entered, so I've I've started 374 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 7: to go to dates early because I feel like when 375 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 7: you go early and you're sitting there first, the person 376 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 7: arrives kind of flustered and nervous. 377 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 3: Oh heck, yeah, you have the upper hand. 378 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 7: It's not even an upper hand because I really like 379 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 7: to make guys feel super comfortable. That's kind of like 380 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 7: the misconception of being mysterious in all these things. And 381 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 7: I'm actually on a date with someone, I want them 382 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 7: to feel super comfortable. 383 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 4: So then like highly overshare with me. 384 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 7: I'll be like, oh, I probably shouldn't know that, but 385 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 7: I'll make you feel comfortable. They're like killed my ex 386 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 7: girlfriend and I'm like, that's so so brave. 387 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 4: Where is she buried? So I could call me the 388 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 4: I after. So I really like to make people feel comfortable. 389 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 7: But I find that guys are a lot more nervous 390 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 7: on dates and are just nervous in general. 391 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 4: I think we always like. 392 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 7: Separate guys and girls in a certain way in terms 393 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 7: of dating, but they're people too, you know, they get 394 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 7: nervous like we do. 395 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 2: Well, we just had Gabby Ill Nicky you'r you know, 396 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 2: friend from the show from Zach season, and she was 397 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: talking about how normal it is for you guys to 398 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: go over to Zach's house and just hang out with 399 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: Katie and he's just in the background, and you're like, Hey. 400 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 3: What's up. 401 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: I had a fantasy suite with you, but nobody remembers that, 402 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: not you or me. 403 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 4: I mean, they definitely misportrayed our fantasy suite. 404 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 7: But I think over time, it's been such a long 405 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 7: time now since that experience, and we've all had so 406 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 7: many lives. I probably had like five hundred secret boyfriends 407 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 7: since then. 408 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 3: You are seriously such an interesting person. 409 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,719 Speaker 2: I think that throughout this interview, I think you're cooler 410 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: and cooler, more intimating. 411 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 7: Oh my god, I don't really know if I like 412 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 7: the intimidating thing but I can't help, but I guess. 413 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 7: But I find that it's so easy to hang out 414 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 7: with Zach because when you get to know someone like 415 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 7: that and you go through also like your trauma bonded 416 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 7: to the women, So it creates a very particular relationship 417 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 7: with those girls, like I have a relationship with I 418 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,959 Speaker 7: could be friends with people for like fifteen years, but 419 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 7: those girls know me in a completely different way than 420 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 7: my family, my friends, anyone that experience that you share together, 421 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 7: especially the farther and farther you get, because it becomes 422 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 7: more traumatic, if you will, and you're more removed from society. 423 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 7: So that's like a particular trombond with the women, but 424 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 7: also with the lead you also bond in a certain way, 425 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 7: whether that is like romantic or long term, any of 426 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 7: these things you like. I think the most fun part 427 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 7: of Fantasy Suites was like dish about everything and the 428 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 7: whole experience and finally having someone to talk to off 429 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 7: camera about everything. 430 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 4: We'd gone through. 431 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 7: So I've always had like a good rapport with Zach since, 432 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 7: and I think everyone's kind of moved on and any 433 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 7: feelings that they've had. And Katie was one of the 434 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 7: people I was closest to in Gabby, particularly because. 435 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 4: We just had the very similar experience up until the end. 436 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 4: I mean, I was on a boat in Thailand being 437 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 4: like where am I? 438 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 7: So I think that it is so easy to go 439 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 7: to hang out with Zach and do all these things, 440 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 7: and it just feels like a friendship at this point, 441 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 7: and it feels like supporting my best friend's relationship, if 442 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 7: that makes sense. 443 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 4: It doesn't feel like my own narrative anymore. 444 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 5: It makes a lot of sense to me. And I 445 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 5: think even talking to Gabby like this dynamic doesn't work 446 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 5: unless Katie is also super confident, welcoming, hospitable, and very 447 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 5: relaxed about this idea, because I don't think it happens 448 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 5: every season, and I think it's one of the reasons 449 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 5: why this is such a unique, you know, kind of 450 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 5: group coming off a Zach season that you stayed close. 451 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 5: We did get to hear about you all going to 452 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 5: was it Montana? 453 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 4: Montana? 454 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 7: Just to tell me at AFR He's like, I'm so 455 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 7: jealous of that trip, and you're welcome to Colm anytime. 456 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 4: Montana was really fun. We also did the rodeo, we 457 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,479 Speaker 4: did Houston. We've got a lot of trips. 458 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: Actually, didn't you just go to like Florida, like two 459 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 2: weeks after your trip to Montana. 460 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 3: You guys wanted to redo it. 461 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 4: We did. 462 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 7: I wasn't in Florida. We did, but we did Houston. 463 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 7: Oh okay, we did Houston way too close to Montana. 464 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 7: And I've decided I'm not traveling ever again for a 465 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 7: long time. 466 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 4: So tired. 467 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 7: But we do trips a lot because it's really nice 468 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 7: to have like these mini reunions and have them be 469 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 7: like very inclusive and all of us kind of be 470 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 7: together because again, it's such a particular bond, Like I 471 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 7: can talk to the girls in a different way, even 472 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 7: about dating and all these things that I do to 473 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 7: some of my closest friends sometimes. Yeah, and even like 474 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 7: our experiences from the show, that's still like affect us today. 475 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 5: We only have a few more minutes here with you, 476 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 5: and I have really two questions. One is more just 477 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 5: about you personally and what your dreams are here moving 478 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 5: forward the secon This one's more of a headline getter 479 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 5: for us. The internet has been shipping you and Jason 480 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 5: Tartick really since the Caitlin Bristow breakup. I don't know 481 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 5: if you know this. 482 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 4: I actually didn't know that I am. 483 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 6: I'm not lying to you about it. 484 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 5: You can go google yourself and it will be out 485 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 5: of there rather so, yeah, that's smart. But so my 486 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 5: first question is would you be interested in Jason Tartick? 487 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 5: And if not Jason, who from the show would you 488 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,479 Speaker 5: like to see show up to the beach in Paradise 489 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 5: if you were there. 490 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 7: I'm open to Jason. I've never thought about him romantically. 491 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 7: We spoke, I was supposed to go on this podcast 492 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 7: after the show. We've spoken, but I can't really remember 493 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 7: what he's even like really, but I'm definitely open to that. 494 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 3: You must not follow Jason on social media. 495 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 4: I do. I do. I see a lot of his 496 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 4: social media. 497 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say he puts himself out there. 498 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 4: But I can't tell if that's actually like. 499 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 7: The way you present on social media can be very 500 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 7: different than you as like a partner, a boyfriend, any 501 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 7: of those things. So I'm trying to like disassociate that 502 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 7: from the way people actually are, especially if it's someone's 503 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 7: like business. But yeah, I'm definitely open. I don't even 504 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 7: know that was a thing. Who would I like to 505 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 7: see on the beach? I feel like, everyone's pining for 506 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 7: this person. So I'm not gonna say. 507 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 3: Just say it, come must it's good for us. 508 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 7: I'm gonna be so avoidant with them, and I'm gonna 509 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 7: ignore them on the beach. 510 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 4: Because that's like that's gonna work. They can't know that 511 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 4: I said that. I'm open to him. 512 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 7: Actually, I see his social media a lot more than like, 513 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 7: and I've never met him, but I feel like his 514 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 7: whole like squad is really funny online and I like humor. 515 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 3: What season is this guy from? Can you at least 516 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 3: tell us that? 517 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 4: I wouldn't know? Actually, no, it was. It was Greg. 518 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 4: I'm like, it's gonna seem really just shade. There's a 519 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 4: difference between like shady and mysterious. 520 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 7: But yeah, no, I definitely think that he would get 521 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 7: too much attention on the beach though, so I'd have 522 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 7: to ignore him there. 523 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 3: Okay, it's probably gonna work. 524 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 6: It's a competition. 525 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 7: I don't see it as a competition. Even thirty women 526 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 7: one man like that. I'm fine with that ratio because, like, 527 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 7: if you actually connect with someone, none of that really matters. 528 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 4: I don't really I get jealous. 529 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 3: If I really love s so mature and cool no. 530 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 4: I'm actually really not. 531 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 7: Like I think the wrong guys will bring out an 532 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 7: immature side of you and make you feel insecure and 533 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 7: make you feel bad. But if there's actually a connection 534 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 7: there and someone makes you feel secure, it doesn't matter 535 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 7: if there's all these other women situations. 536 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 4: In my opinion, like I. 537 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 7: Think the right guy brings out the right side of you, 538 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 7: and like that's when you don't really feel jealousy. You 539 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 7: don't have to question things, you don't need to stalk 540 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 7: them in certain ways. 541 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 4: We do that until you do. 542 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 3: So based on this theory, I didn't marry the right person. 543 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 2: That's good, that's good kidding, but not. 544 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 4: I think that's the headline over the beach or anything. 545 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 6: I cannot wait. 546 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 5: I cannot wait to see you in Paradise and have 547 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 5: like four dudes interested in you, and like, because you 548 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 5: are open and you're like I'm here to enjoy and explore, 549 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 5: You're going to say yes to all these dates and 550 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 5: all of a sudden, you're gonna find yourself in this 551 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 5: love rectangle and you're gonna have to figure. 552 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 6: Yourself out of it. 553 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 5: And I cannot wait to watch the conversations you have 554 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 5: where you're explaining it, and everybody's like, yeah, that makes sense, Like. 555 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 6: We're all good here, Well, we can all make this work. 556 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 4: I know it's I'm going to be in like a harem. 557 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 6: That it can turn into it very quickly. 558 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 4: Yes, the show in general is very polyamorous. 559 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, they are the first. 560 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 4: One to call it an open relationship, but it's been 561 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 4: like that forever. 562 00:23:55,280 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 2: It really has the polyamorous show with Christian values, perfect 563 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: for me. 564 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 7: And a Christian audience with our favorite Jewish girl, right, 565 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 7: they've never seen one before me. 566 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 5: My final question is, obviously we've talked a lot about 567 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 5: your dating. We've talked about your time on potentially going 568 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 5: on Paradise if it happens. You talked also about your 569 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,719 Speaker 5: career and you were going to work for a startup 570 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 5: at the time. What does life in our final few 571 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 5: moments here look like for you right now, outside of 572 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 5: the romantic side, but more of the personal side. What 573 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 5: does life look like in New York City? 574 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 4: Life in New York City professionally, are in general just kind 575 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 4: of in general? 576 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 6: I think professionally and in general all work together. 577 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, it does so. 578 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 7: I since the show have been doing a lot of 579 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 7: public speaking and motivational speaking, which I really like. I 580 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 7: go to different college campuses and I go to high schools, 581 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 7: and I've also hosted really big seminars. I just hosted 582 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 7: one in DC in December and one in Atlanta as well. 583 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 7: And I came back from Berlin on like a peace summit. 584 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 4: So I do a lot of that. 585 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 7: I do a lot of like deradicalization work through the 586 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 7: Middle East. And then my life in New York is 587 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 7: it changes every single day. I don't think I spend 588 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 7: enough time here. I'm moving apartments right now, so I 589 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 7: have to find a new apartment if I do Paradise 590 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 7: before then, which. 591 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 4: Gives me two weeks to three. It's super fun. 592 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 3: Because they are filming early in May. 593 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 7: If they do not, But I know that information, I'm 594 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 7: not exposed to that. I have no idea what you're 595 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 7: talking about. But yeah, I have to find an apartment within 596 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 7: three weeks, move everything. I'm getting rid of all my clothes, 597 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 7: So maybe I should do a TikTok about all the 598 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 7: outfits that I wore on the show, because they're all 599 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 7: making a comeback now, yea. But yeah, I'm really focused 600 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 7: on kind of all the things that I've been advocating 601 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 7: for online in terms of like peace building things like 602 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 7: that and creating a space for Jewish people online. That's 603 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 7: a lot of the work that I do. And I 604 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 7: might also start my own business. But I want to 605 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 7: talk about anything until it's actually set. So I feel 606 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 7: like every day is very different, and that's kind of 607 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 7: the exciting thing about being an entrepreneur. Every day is 608 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 7: not going to look the same, and every day in 609 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 7: New York looks very different too. All have five dates 610 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 7: one week and zero the next, but hopefully this drive. 611 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 4: Still end soon. 612 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, we just want one for you right now. We're 613 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 6: just asking for one. 614 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 4: Guys, I have had dates. 615 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 7: I've just been saying no unless, like I really want 616 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 7: to go Ariel. 617 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 2: Maybe this is a sign from the universe that you're 618 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 2: not supposed to date anyone because your person's in paradise. 619 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 2: We don't want it to get to be a messy situation. 620 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 7: I do fully believe that, like I do believe in 621 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 7: the new universe and signs that you're set, and the 622 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 7: men that have been sent my way in the last 623 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 7: few months are really pushing me to go to the beach, 624 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 7: throwing me over the ledge. I wish I could read 625 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 7: all the texts I've received recently. Someone recently invited me 626 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 7: to pizza macassa. I don't even know what that means. 627 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 6: Pizza in what pizza? 628 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 3: Ohma, casse isn't our restaurant. Would you think. 629 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 7: It's like having almost different sushi but in different formats 630 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 7: of pizza. 631 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 4: I don't even get it. 632 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 3: Okay, that sounds very intriguing to me. 633 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 4: It was intriguing. 634 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 7: And then they got mad that I couldn't go because 635 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 7: I was in La for AFR and I don't know, 636 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 7: it's been a mess out there, so maybe I will 637 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 7: really be on the beach. 638 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 4: I'm being pushed in that direction. 639 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 6: We hope to see you there. 640 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Well, it is a true pleasure talking 641 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 3: to you today. 642 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 4: Great to properly meet you. 643 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. Same, Let's let's do more. 644 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 2: I want to go to one of your girl retreats 645 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 2: or something and then I'll record back almost famous investigates. 646 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 6: Go out and follow Aeriel on social media. TikTok and 647 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 6: Instagram are your two most used platforms? 648 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, i'd say so. I don't have a YouTube yet, 649 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 4: but maybe one day. 650 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 6: Okay, go out and follow her. 651 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 5: Keep up with everything good going on in Ariel's life 652 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 5: and also from the Almost Famous listener group and the 653 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 5: host of Almost Famus podcast. We hope to see in Paradise. 654 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 5: It would be a pleasure for all of us. Thanks 655 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 5: for coming on. We wish you the best. 656 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 4: Thank you guys, Bye bye. 657 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on 658 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.