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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation, It's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. Here on a Monday, West Shooler and Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson with you as we have got plenty to discuss.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers fall the Bears thirty one to twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: They fall to six and five. They fall out of

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Speaker 2: the lead in the AFC North, while Chicago remains one

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Speaker 2: of the hottest teams in the NFL, eight of their

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Speaker 2: last nine, continuing to stay atop the very tough NFC North.

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Speaker 3: Matt, I don't really know exactly where to begin.

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Speaker 4: Today, so I'm glad you're carrying the puck. I'm just

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Speaker 4: sitting here waiting to bury one.

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Speaker 2: Maybe disappointing performance by the defense, disappointing performance by the offense,

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Speaker 2: I think, even if you give them the benefit of

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Speaker 2: the grain of salt of the quarterback uncertainty leading up

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Speaker 2: to kickoff, despite all that, it was still there for them.

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Speaker 2: They still had the lead at halftime, and just a

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Speaker 2: game where it felt like Chicago kind of outlasted. The

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Speaker 2: Steelers made a couple more plays on offense a couple

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Speaker 2: more plays on defense, a couple more plays and those

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Speaker 2: weighty moments, and it was enough to in a game

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Speaker 2: like that, you end up winning and you're feeling great

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Speaker 2: about yourself. You lose and it feels like the sky

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Speaker 2: is falling.

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Speaker 4: So so many directions to go on this and we will.

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Speaker 3: We got plenty of time.

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Speaker 2: We won't have a show on Thursday but one day

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Speaker 2: this week, although by that point we'll be focusing on

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Speaker 2: Buffalo anyway.

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Speaker 4: I guess we had twenty four segments to fill this

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Speaker 4: week instead of thirty, so we'll have plenty of time

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Speaker 4: to chat. And we're very appreciative that all you you know,

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Speaker 4: come and join us. And it sounds like viewership is

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Speaker 4: you know, listening ship or whatever is going crazy. And

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Speaker 4: but win or lose Mondays are just so overreactionary, I mean,

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Speaker 4: and that's part of the beauty of this league because

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Speaker 4: everyone cares so much and it's one game. And I

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Speaker 4: say this all the time. If the Pirates lost ten

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Speaker 4: nothing the day before, nobody cared, you know, like, or

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Speaker 4: if they win ten nothing, you know, it's one game.

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Speaker 3: You move, nobody cares in general, well in general.

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Speaker 4: But where I want to go with this and this

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Speaker 4: is not the candy coat the Steelers situation, because it's

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Speaker 4: getting kind of dire. And that's just the numbers of

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Speaker 4: the AFC and the division and all these things, and

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Speaker 4: the road ahead and get tough, and the road is narrowing?

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Speaker 4: Is you? And coach like to say a lot and

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Speaker 4: it's one hundred percent true. But I was it's going

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Speaker 4: to air tonight. But every Monday I do a review

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Speaker 4: show with Rob and Pursuda, And in the second segment

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Speaker 4: it kind of dawned on me. It's like I always

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Speaker 4: like on Mondays to put myself in the shoes of

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Speaker 4: the opposing city. Brown's Nation Radio or Bears Nation Radio,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean? And right now, if this

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Speaker 4: was Bears Nation Radio, we would be jubulant. Oh we

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Speaker 4: would be.

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Speaker 3: Dancing dominated in the run game on both sides of

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Speaker 3: the football, dancing in the street.

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Speaker 2: Their defense scored a touchdown, Yeah right, so down at halftime. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: still found a way to win.

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Speaker 4: Because we got this dude that can you know, we

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Speaker 4: know too many games we can win in the end.

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Speaker 4: And we got a coach and we got a quarterback,

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Speaker 4: and the Bears are in first place and this.

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Speaker 2: Vaunted Steelers pass rush only got Caleb Williams on the

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Speaker 2: ground one time.

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Speaker 4: We go on and on and on, you know, and

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Speaker 4: rightfully so, I'm not taking away from the Bears at all,

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Speaker 4: but they've won so many close games. I'm only talking

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Speaker 4: about Chicago, but sound like we're on Bears Nation Radio.

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Speaker 4: They've won so many ridiculously close games against not the

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Speaker 4: best teams in the league, you know. I mean it's

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Speaker 4: they didn't edge out the Rams or you know, the Colts,

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Speaker 4: or you know some of these Seattle or you know,

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Speaker 4: the best teams in the Eagles, but if they get

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Speaker 4: two or three bounces that don't quite go their way

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Speaker 4: during that stretch. And where I'm going with this is

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Speaker 4: they still have a negative point differential for the season.

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Speaker 4: The Bears do. And they've won eight out of nine

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Speaker 4: and they're in first place. I think it's still negative.

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Speaker 4: It's right around there after this game, and all of

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Speaker 4: a sudden, you'd be like, man, Bears are doing some

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Speaker 4: good stuff, but don't know how to win yet, you know.

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Speaker 4: Like It's my point is almost all these teams, with

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Speaker 4: and the really terrible teams It is such a fine

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Speaker 4: line in this league of winning and losing, and I

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Speaker 4: thought yesterday was a perfect example of that. I thought

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Speaker 4: it was a pretty evenly played game. Robin Mike both

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Speaker 4: thought the Steelers were the better team yesterday. I'm not

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Speaker 4: sure I agree with that part.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not sure if I agree.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was a little shocked they both there.

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Speaker 2: Again, there's certain elements that you can look at and

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Speaker 2: you can go that's impressive.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, they were better.

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Speaker 3: Limiting a top five rushing attack in the league. Impressive.

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Speaker 4: All the run game stuff, all the the run game stuff.

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Speaker 3: If you would have told us that was going to

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Speaker 3: play out on Friday.

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Speaker 4: We were climbing up.

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Speaker 3: Steelers win.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, that's not even how Rob even iw

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Speaker 4: Rob phased it. He's like, if I told you this

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Speaker 4: were the rushing totals and these were the time of

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Speaker 4: possession totals, you'd say the Steelers won handily. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: thousand and oh, by the way, you have scored on defense.

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Speaker 2: I was just going to say, though, too, if you

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Speaker 2: would have told me that the Steelers offense scored twenty

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Speaker 2: one points against per a bottom five defense in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Right, I would have said, all, well, you're going to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, And oh, by the way, in the way

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Speaker 4: he phrased it was if I told you the Steelers

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Speaker 4: scored on defense and won the running battle so.

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Speaker 3: Drastically, you're like, the time you're winning that game.

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Speaker 4: Like, could you paint a picture of the lose. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: if they lost a turnover differential by like four and

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Speaker 4: if you factor in four thousands, they did learn lose

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Speaker 4: the turnover differential by two.

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Speaker 3: And Matt Williamson turnover differentially, and.

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Speaker 4: Frankly, that might be the difference in the game when

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Speaker 4: you look back at it. It's that fine a line,

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Speaker 4: and they did some really good stuff, but they also

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Speaker 4: have some really big concerns and pursuit of His big

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Speaker 4: take was self inflicted wounds. You know, like you got

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Speaker 4: to complete one or two of those deep shots. You know,

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Speaker 4: like you didn't take many. It was a very controlled

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Speaker 4: very fully aware of that. I get that. But if

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Speaker 4: you're gonna take shots, you got to complete them, and

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Speaker 4: you can't have an illegal formation in crucial.

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Speaker 3: Time and you might win if that right, Make that

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Speaker 4: Right right, I mean and goofy little things like the

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Speaker 4: score ironic, it was a penalty that punt that was

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Speaker 4: a penalty on the Bears and then they flipped it

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Speaker 4: and us on TV and no clue what happened. And

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Speaker 4: that was like a forty yard swing of yardage.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 4: So this was a very close game against the quality opponent.

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Speaker 4: And Rob even laid it out like big picture Colts Seattle,

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Speaker 4: Green Bay, Chicago. I'm missing one here in the AFC

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Speaker 4: that they won New England. You know, like those five

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Speaker 4: games are against all playoff teams, and if you put

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Speaker 4: that whole body of work together, you're even with all

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Speaker 4: of them, you know what I mean, Like some you

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Speaker 4: lost by a little, some you won by a little.

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Speaker 4: You're hanging with all those teams. You know, this isn't

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Speaker 4: he compared it to this isn't going to Buffalo in

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Speaker 4: the wildcard round, where it's like that's a super Bowl

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Speaker 4: contender against a playoff contender. You know, like it's a

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Speaker 4: fine line, but you might be a mistake or two

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Speaker 2: Let me be be bad cop for a second. There's

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Speaker 2: a lot of bad because I think. I don't think

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Speaker 2: you're talking utter rubbish. I don't think you're just speaking nonsense.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying they're a bounce away from winning the

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Speaker 4: super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: The reason why I can't.

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Speaker 4: Do that, I'm optimistic, right.

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Speaker 2: I can't do the sunshine and rainbow thing today is

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Speaker 2: because so much of what ailed the Steelers yesterday in

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Speaker 2: by the way, is the same stuff that's ailed them

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Speaker 2: and their other four losses.

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Speaker 4: That's where I wanted to go to.

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Speaker 3: It'd be one thing.

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Speaker 2: If it was to steal another Mike Tomlin term, you

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Speaker 2: know I like to do that. It'd be one thing

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Speaker 2: if it was popcorn for the Steelers, right right. You

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Speaker 2: lost this game because you had some really unfortunate injuries,

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Speaker 2: so that DK got banged up, Roder Jones went out,

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Speaker 4: But it's it's it's wow, you got a punt block

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Speaker 4: that never happens.

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Speaker 2: It's every time the Steelers lose a game like this,

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Speaker 2: you can always point to the defense didn't make life

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Speaker 2: difficult enough on the opposition quarterback.

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Speaker 3: That's always a big one.

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Speaker 4: I thought the pass rush was a little lacking.

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Speaker 2: One play aside, and it was a massive play, massive

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Speaker 2: the board. I mean that is a massive splash play.

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Speaker 2: But that was about it. I mean it was feast.

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Speaker 2: It was it was two percent feast and ninety eight

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Speaker 4: V or at least like eating lightly. Yes, because I

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Speaker 4: definitely wanted they wanted to keep him in there.

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Speaker 3: I wanted a turkey on the table instead.

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Speaker 2: It was just like a little charcuterie board off off

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Speaker 2: to the side with the kids table or something.

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Speaker 4: I'm not fighting you, and I am not being good

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Speaker 4: cop totally because I got a lot of concerns and

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Speaker 4: a lot of things to be concerned about. And I

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Speaker 4: even said the pass rush I think was a little lacking.

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Speaker 4: But I but they also Williams. They kept him in

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Speaker 4: the pocket and they their goals wasn't to get the

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Speaker 4: eight sacks. It was make him throw in beach.

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Speaker 3: I'll let him run for forty yards.

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Speaker 4: And he missed a lot of throws, as he has

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Speaker 4: all year, and but they only seemed to slow them

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Speaker 4: down when he missed throws, Like what do we tell you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, same, you know, inability to really make the quarterback

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Speaker 2: uncomfortable and miscommunication at the worst possible times.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: A big thing Mike said is like they still don't

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Speaker 4: know how to play zone coverage well, you know, and.

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Speaker 2: He in the shadow of their own end zone, even

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Speaker 2: with a field shorter right and big third and long

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Speaker 2: situations where it's like.

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Speaker 4: The DJ Moore touchdown can't happen, can't happen?

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Speaker 2: You know that conversion that Chicago had at the end,

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Speaker 2: it was what third and eight, third and nine, and

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Speaker 2: they throw they dump it off over the middle.

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Speaker 4: And there's you know, nowhere to be found.

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Speaker 2: It's like you're standing in the middle of the Sahara

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Speaker 2: desert with nobody around you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I keep quoting the show we just did because

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Speaker 4: If this was week one, pretend it's week one, you

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Speaker 2: If it was four or five weeks ago, this game

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Speaker 3: That place was.

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Speaker 4: Most respect you had for the building.

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Speaker 4: Fans and they're good fans, and they're excited and they're

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Speaker 2: It's a prideful sports city at all, huge sports town.

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Speaker 2: But it's also because they've had bitterly squat since.

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Speaker 4: Thirty years, right, Brian, since there hasn't been a lot

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Speaker 2: Like the defense couldn't stop a nosebleed on the ground

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Speaker 2: Let's talk to Rob King when we return on the

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Speaker 2: other side. He'll be good cop for us. Rob Kings,

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Speaker 2: you that that show you do with him in pursuit

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Speaker 3: Rob King's good cop, Mike Pursuit is bad cop.

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Speaker 4: Monday nights.

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Speaker 2: You're just kind of you know, you're the center with

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Speaker 4: I think there's some truth to that. Yeah, we'll talk

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Speaker 4: I'm glad that we record that is when we do.

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Speaker 4: To be honest, we'll pull back the curtain because I

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, good perspective as always, and we'll get that

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Speaker 2: the Drive on a Monday, West Huler Matt Williamson, Steelers

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Speaker 2: Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network, Your tunes.

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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 5: Hold Alive, Oh, King in the Castle, King in the Castle,

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Speaker 5: have a chill, I have a chill.

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Speaker 4: Oh go go these Google.

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Speaker 2: The King in the Castle needed a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a levity here on this Monday, so we'll play the

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Speaker 2: Borat intro for the King now being in the Castle,

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Speaker 2: Rob King and it's as I feel pretty good. Put

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Speaker 2: a smile on your face to hear that one again.

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Speaker 3: It's been a while.

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Speaker 5: Always Ranna, just talk, just talking to you and Matt

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Speaker 3: Come on, man, Well that's what we like to hear.

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Speaker 3: That's what we like to hear.

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Speaker 2: We always enjoy catching up with you as well, even

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Speaker 2: on a little bit of a commiseration. Monday thirty one

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Speaker 2: to twenty eight, the Steelers fall in Chicago. Matt and

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Speaker 2: I kind of had a beefy opening segment discussing some

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Speaker 2: You know at this point for this team now eleven

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Speaker 2: of your list, King Er, You know you are, I think,

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Speaker 2: From a black and gold standpoint, what would that headline read?

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Speaker 5: Ah, I mean six and five, right, you are your record.

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Speaker 5: I mean unfortunately. You know, Matt and I were discussing

442
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Speaker 5: this earlier, and we'll be discussing it later with Mike

443
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 5: Persuda when we do the point after. But you know,

444
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,919
Speaker 5: I just look at this team and I see some

445
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 5: of the elements in place for this team to be

446
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,639
Speaker 5: better than six and five, And you know, that's your

447
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, you are your record.

448
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 5: That's it, right, your six and five football team, and

449
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,639
Speaker 5: you have to live with that. I still have hope though,

450
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,400
Speaker 5: when I look at, you know, some of the statistical

451
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 5: areas in which they defeated the Bears. Had you told

452
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:21,919
Speaker 5: me that before the game, I would have signed up

453
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 5: for all of it and thought the students would have

454
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Speaker 5: won handily as opposed to losing by three points. You know,

455
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,919
Speaker 5: I think that when I look at the good teams

456
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,120
Speaker 5: they've played, and you know, with the exception of the Chargers,

457
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 5: they've either beaten top teams or had halftime leads getting

458
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,360
Speaker 5: the ball to begin the second half against the other

459
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 5: three teams that have defeated them, And there's a lot

460
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 5: there for me to think if they could just find

461
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 5: a way to get more consistent, and consistency means from

462
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 5: one game to the next, but it also means within

463
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 5: a game. You know, how you can you know, run

464
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 5: it up against the Bears in the first half and

465
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 5: then come out and have what thirteen yards of offense

466
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Speaker 5: in the third quarter. I don't have that one figured out.

467
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 5: And if you can figure that out, I think you're

468
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 5: in good shape. So you know, there are a number

469
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 5: of little issues, but there's nothing where I think, to myself,

470
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 5: they're just simply not as good as the other teams.

471
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Speaker 5: I don't see that. I hope I'm not seeing it

472
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,719
Speaker 5: through black and gold colored glasses, but I just I

473
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 5: haven't seen that, and so that gives me hope that

474
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 5: they can find a way to turn things around. Yeah.

475
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Speaker 4: I want to expand on that because I thought you

476
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 4: said that well when we were chatting earlier about Green Bay, Chicago,

477
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 4: Seattle and the NFC, the Colts, the Patriots in the AFC,

478
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 4: like those five teams and maybe I'm even missing one

479
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,640
Speaker 4: are all going to the playoffs. I mean, I'll bet

480
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 4: just about everything I have at this point, maybe one

481
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 4: of them doesn't, but I bet they're all playoff caliber teams. Seattle, Seattle,

482
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 4: the Colts could be Super Bowl caliber teams or at least,

483
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 4: you know, their top five ish teams right now as

484
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,199
Speaker 4: it looks, Patriots are really really good. And frankly, if

485
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 4: you combine every snap of all those games, the Steelers

486
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 4: basically were very even with all of them.

487
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Speaker 5: I would I would go so far as to say

488
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 5: that in every one of those games there was there

489
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 5: were ample opportunities for the Steelers to win. Yeah, you know,

490
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Speaker 5: and they after you lose Seattle, you rip off three

491
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Speaker 5: in a row against the Patriots. The Vikings win that

492
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Speaker 5: probably looked a little bit better at the time than

493
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Speaker 5: it does now against the Browns, who was twenty three

494
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Speaker 5: to nine, But you're never in any danger of losing

495
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 5: that game, you know. So you win four of your

496
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Speaker 5: first five. But again, you know, you're up by a

497
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Speaker 5: touchdown against Seattle and you get the ball to begin

498
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 5: the second half. I think about that, like, that's the

499
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 5: scenario you want, that's what you write up. And it

500
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 5: was the exact same scenario with the Packers, and the

501
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 5: exact same scenario yesterday with the Bears. All quality teams

502
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 5: and you know when you think about, Okay, at half,

503
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 5: you're up sixteen to seven to the Packers, you put

504
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 5: another score up. It's a three score game. Well, I

505
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 5: mean maybe two touchdowns and two two point conversions. But

506
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 5: you might as well, you know, try to win the lotteries.

507
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 5: Expect that's gonna happen. Instead, you go three and out,

508
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 5: three plays, two yards of punt Seattle, you're up fourteen

509
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 5: to seven. You know, you go down and score, and

510
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 5: that's a two point a two score game.

511
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 4: Same thing, And Caleb Johnson knows a kickoff roll with

512
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 4: things might go a little differently too.

513
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, for sure, and all those Matt, you're right,

514
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 5: but all those are things like what's going on here?

515
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 5: I don't understand why frustrating that's the case, not like

516
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 5: not like hey man, we're out class like I you know, again,

517
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 5: I've reference this like two years ago. I just thought

518
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 5: this too. Theres weren't as good as the other teams.

519
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 5: They were facing the top teams. They they just didn't

520
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 5: mat some of that's a quarterback position, obviously, but they

521
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 5: just didn't match up against the top teams. I thought

522
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 5: they got closer to that last year, and I think

523
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 5: they're there this year, right, Look, they've played a lot

524
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 5: of high caliber teams and with the exception to the Chargers, right,

525
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 5: I mean, you should at least be three and three

526
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 5: in my opinion, at least three and three against top

527
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 5: quality teams without having been the Chargers. That wasn't a

528
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 5: good game. But with the exception of the Chargers, you

529
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 5: know you've been. You've had ample opportunity to win those games.

530
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,239
Speaker 5: You've got ample opportunity to say, hey, we're you know,

531
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 5: four and two or five and one in those games

532
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 5: instead of you know, two and four against the playoff

533
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 5: bound teams. But you are what you are again, It's

534
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,959
Speaker 5: not like I'm watching Derek Hunt Henry run for two

535
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 5: hundred and forty yards or whatever, and right, and hey,

536
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 5: you just got out class. You know, I haven't felt

537
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 5: that way at all this year. I thought it was

538
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 5: a better team. I still think it's a better team.

539
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 5: But ultimately, you've got to find a way to sew

540
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 5: up stakes, tighten things up, and find a way to

541
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 5: win games. Because the margin that you built up when

542
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 5: you got off to that four and one start, that's gone.

543
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 5: And in fact, you are now the pursuer instead of

544
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 5: the pursue eet. So that's where you are.

545
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, with a with a tough sledding schedule of Buffalo

546
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Speaker 2: at home, Baltimore on the road, the Miami Dolphins, who

547
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 2: are suddenly showing some life. You gotta go to Detroit. Hey, Cleveland,

548
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 2: who knows Senor Sanders one to know. Maybe it's a road,

549
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 2: maybe it's a new Yeah. And also on the road

550
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 2: in Cleveland where hey, late December and Cleveland. I'm sure

551
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 2: the weather won't factor into that one and couldn't be

552
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 2: another snow game globe for the Steelers. But Kinger, you know,

553
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 2: to me, so much of this revolves around getting their

554
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 2: playmakers on offense going. You know, if you take away

555
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 2: the defensive touchdown for the Steelers, that's twenty one points

556
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 2: against a Bears defense that statistically is one of the

557
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,719
Speaker 2: one of the worst to the National Football League. You

558
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 2: take away the two pick six's or part of me

559
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 2: a pick six in a scoop six against Cincinnati, it's

560
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: twenty points against the Bengals defense that is the.

561
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 3: Worst in the National Football League.

562
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Speaker 2: Out in LA you only scored twenty points against Indianapolis

563
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 2: twenty seven, but you had again six turnovers and a

564
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 2: lot of help from your defense. To me, there's again

565
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 2: there's good cut, bad cop reasons for optimism, pessimism.

566
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 3: Glass half full, glass half empty.

567
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 2: But when I look at Calvin Austin thirty six yards,

568
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,479
Speaker 2: Kenneth Gainwell thirty through the air being your second leading receiver,

569
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 2: Darnell only two receptions for twenty two, DK only five

570
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 2: for twenty two, John hu Smith three for twenty one,

571
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: Pat Freyermu three for nineteen. They have got to find

572
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 2: a way to find some playmakers on offense and in

573
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 2: terms of ball catching receiving playmakers, and not just Kenneth Gainwell,

574
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 2: who's been great out of the backfield the last few weeks.

575
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 2: They need more from dcs any more from the rest

576
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 2: of the wide receivers and I think king are one

577
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: of the biggest things at this point now eleven games in,

578
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: is more consistency with that tight end trio that we

579
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: thought was gonna be a real kind of hallmark calling

580
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: card of this offense.

581
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, you know, as I look at this team,

582
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 5: you know there are Look, there was no way I

583
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 5: think that statistically this years thought the defense is going

584
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 5: to be giving up this many yards and this many points.

585
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 5: I didn't think there was any way. Having said that,

586
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 5: I don't think that the offense has done enough of

587
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 5: as share. You know, this was the first game all

588
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 5: year that the Steelers you know, ran more plays than

589
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 5: the opponent and they won the time back. Okay, so

590
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 5: they won the time of possession battle last year. Last

591
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 5: week thanks to a neil back at the end of

592
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 5: the game. Otherwise it was dead even again Cincinnati. And

593
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that that is a be all and

594
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 5: all statistic. I'm just saying that you need to find

595
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 5: ways to help your defense out right. You need to

596
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 5: be able to keep your defense off the field. Well,

597
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 5: the Steelers largely did that yesterday, for all our criticism,

598
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 5: and yes, they came up with the defensive touchdown for

599
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 5: all our criticism of the offense. And you got to

600
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 5: run the ball more and possess it more. Well they

601
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 5: did that yesterday and the Bear scored thirty one points,

602
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 5: you know, and some of that that's not all on

603
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 5: the defense, you know, because the defense yardage wise, held

604
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 5: the Bears down, and the Bears have had that sort

605
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 5: of it factor knack that I think we're used to

606
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 5: the Steelers having finding ways to win ball games. They're

607
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 5: eight and three and they've been outscored this year. That's crazy,

608
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 5: you know, they've just been able to find that magic.

609
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 5: But do you expect, you know, to give up thirty

610
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 5: one points to a team when you hold them to

611
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 5: what three hundred and twenty four yards of by three

612
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 5: hundred and twenty eight yards of total offense? That doesn't

613
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 5: add up to thirty one points. So I've said this before.

614
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,719
Speaker 5: I used a puzzle piece analogy, like I've got all

615
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 5: these puzzle pieces or a math equation, I've got these numbers,

616
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 5: and it just does an add up. You know. I

617
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 5: think in a lot of ways, the Bears are more

618
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 5: than the some of their parts, right, Like how could

619
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 5: you possibly be giving up all these yards and be

620
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 5: dashed on the ground. But defensively points per game, it's

621
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 5: not horrible, not as horrible as the numbers should suggest,

622
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 5: you know. It's not like Caleb Williams is dicing up

623
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 5: opponents and yet they're they're winning football games. They find

624
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 5: a way to win football games. The whole is more

625
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 5: than the sum of their parts, and for the Steelers,

626
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 5: it just feels like that hasn't been the case. Like, I,

627
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 5: you know, one week you know against the Green Bay Packers,

628
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 5: against the Cincinnati Bengals, you're flinging them all all over

629
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 5: the field. This game you run for one hundred and

630
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 5: eighty plus yards one hundred and eighty six yards in

631
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 5: the ground. We've shown, we've seen signs, but it hasn't happened.

632
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 5: And we and the defense has had games they've dominated

633
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 5: and the Steelers. Look, the Steelers won the game in

634
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 5: New England and won the game against the Colts, two

635
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 5: of the top teams in the AFC, thanks to their defense.

636
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 5: It just it doesn't need to be that heroic. It

637
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 5: just needs to I just think it needs to come

638
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 5: together more. And in a game like yesterday, some of

639
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 5: it came together, but not all of it. And then

640
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 5: these losses, it hasn't all been there. Like I said,

641
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 5: they haven't been run out of the building, but they

642
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 5: just haven't been able to put it together in a

643
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 5: way that allows them to win consistently.

644
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I wanted to touch on something he said too.

645
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 4: And maybe the most shocking big picture thing as we

646
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 4: sit here a couple days away from Thanksgiving is the

647
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 4: yardage they allow on defense. Because I do think they

648
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 4: have a lot of good defensive players, and they have

649
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 4: a great pass rush and they clearly create splash, but

650
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 4: down in and down out. Early in the season, I

651
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 4: thought a lot of it was the run game, the

652
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 4: Jets game. It seems like a million years ago. But

653
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 4: you know, Cam Hayward hadn't practiced, and a lot of

654
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 4: defensive lines across the league are just fatigued. Really early

655
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 4: in the season, run defense has been, but I still don't.

656
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 4: I still expect more from the coverage unit when you

657
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,719
Speaker 4: know the ball is going to come out quick, and

658
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 4: that to me is maybe the most frustrating, big picture

659
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 4: thing about the season.

660
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 2: Real quick, real quick hanger before you get into that

661
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 2: three hundred and eighty three total yards surrendered per game,

662
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: that's twenty eighth out of thirty two in the league.

663
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: Two hundred and fifty eight pass yards per game, that's

664
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: thirty first thirty two league.

665
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 4: Just the past coverage, as me, frustrated.

666
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 5: And it doesn't seem possible, does it, right? And you've

667
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 5: got good players back there.

668
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 4: And not a rash of injuries or you know.

669
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's mystifying, and you know, again, they found ways

670
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 5: to turn teams over and they found ways to harass

671
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones and you know, after lit them up for

672
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 5: a game, they clamp down. So you know, this week

673
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 5: they stopped the Bears offense on the ground that was

674
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 5: the second best running offense in the NFL, a week

675
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 5: after they shut down Chase and Higgins in that group

676
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 5: in Cincinnati. With what they've been doing in the previous

677
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 5: three games under Joe Flacco, I said, it's it's as

678
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 5: if the ingredients for you know, chili are there and

679
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 5: you put it in the pot and you taste it

680
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 5: and it tastes like squash soup. You like, how is

681
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 5: that possible? The ingredients are all there in the pot.

682
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 5: There they are. I mixed it up, I started, I

683
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 5: made it, and it's it's not chili, it's squashed soup.

684
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 5: That That's what it feels like to me in some ways,

685
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 5: like I'm just I don't know. I don't have an

686
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 5: explanation for it. You know, I don't have an explanation

687
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,239
Speaker 5: for the consistency not being there. I will say this,

688
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 5: and again it gives me hope because I do see.

689
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 5: I do see. You know what it's what these units

690
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 5: are capable of. We just haven't seen it on a

691
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 5: consistent basis. And look, you know, the special teams have

692
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 5: been a real plus for this Steelers all season long.

693
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 5: That's been something you can pretty much chalk up in

694
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 5: the in the win column, like especial teams are gonna

695
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 5: be great, right, Well, the coverage units weren't great. The punting, yeah,

696
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 5: the nets cunning wasn't great yesterday. That's that's another small

697
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 5: part where we're talking about them winning the yardage battle. Well,

698
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 5: did you really if you're if you're giving up yardage

699
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 5: in the special teams game because that doesn't get added in,

700
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 5: you know, So I don't know, Guys. Like I said,

701
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 5: I I'm encouraged when I you know, the six and

702
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 5: five record. I just feel like it's a better team

703
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 5: than that, and I just hope that that means there's

704
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 5: better times ahead coming up. With Let's face it, I

705
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 5: mean this game against the Bills, I felt like you

706
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 5: had to win one of these two games. I you know,

707
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 5: if you were going to pick one, I would have

708
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 5: picked the Bills. But if you're gonna you know, as

709
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 5: as far as importance, because it's an AFC game, I

710
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 5: think the Bears. I thought the Steelers were better than

711
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 5: the Bears and we're gonna win the game, and then

712
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 5: you could go in with a little bit of house

713
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 5: money and play the Bills. Now this game is just

714
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 5: looming as extra important. It was important before, and now

715
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 5: I think it's extra important and you go and beat them.

716
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 5: But again with an ature of the NFL. For all

717
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 5: we noticed the Ravens will lose on Thursday night in Cincinnati,

718
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 5: will have a whole new feeling about it. You know,

719
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 5: who knows, guys, But that's the way it feels to me.

720
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 5: Like this, this game against Buffalo has suddenly become a

721
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 5: much more crucial game because the Steelers have have had

722
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 5: opportunities to beat teams that they haven't beaten, you know,

723
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 5: meeting of more recent vintage the Packers and the Bears,

724
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 5: when you were head of the half and had the

725
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 5: ball to begin the second half. But it is what

726
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 5: it is, man, it's six and five. That's your record,

727
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 5: and you got to find a way to move forward.

728
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 3: No doubt about it.

729
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 2: Kind enough to join us every single Monday here on

730
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: the program the Voice of your Pittsburgh Steelers on the

731
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 2: flagship on the Steelers Audio Network, the Great Rob King

732
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: king Er. Thanks for the time, man, enjoy the week

733
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: and some family time and Happy Thanksgiving and we'll talk

734
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:57,479
Speaker 2: to you soon.

735
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 5: I will see you guys soon, but Matt, I will

736
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 5: see you sooner than probably West. But happy Thanksgiving you

737
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 5: guys as well.

738
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 2: Take care Kinger, Why wowie there he goes good stuff

739
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 2: from Rob king as always. You know, can I just

740
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: tell you something Matt real quick for before we go

741
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: to break and get back into this and Lab sent

742
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: me a week twelve research packet. Yeah, has some actually

743
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 2: I think pretty pretty good nuggets in it that I

744
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 2: want to get into with you as well. Your son's

745
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:29,959
Speaker 2: a freshman in college right now.

746
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 4: This sport and his brand new Darnell Washington, Jersey yesterday

747
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 4: Darno Washington.

748
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 2: Did they did kill a guy once again in Chicago yesterday?

749
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 3: Good lord.

750
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 4: Man.

751
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: This used to be like my favorite week when I

752
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 2: was that age, when I was that like y Yeah.

753
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 4: He came home a couple days ago.

754
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 2: He's had a blast, right because you get you know,

755
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: like you'll come home on a Friday or Saturday and

756
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: you get the whole you know, you're home for like

757
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 2: eight or nine days. It's great of like, haven't seen

758
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 2: my buddies for the most part since August.

759
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 3: You know, it's usually not terribly winter.

760
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 2: Out yet, so it's not like it's seven seven degrees

761
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 2: and freezing. And Christmas Break is different because when you're

762
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 2: in college, Christmas break is like four or five weeks long.

763
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: Like mom and dad expect you to do something, like

764
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 3: you're I'm just gonna.

765
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: Sit around the jobs, get something, get a seasonal job,

766
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: do something productive. You're gonna be home for four or

767
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: five weeks Thanksgiving Break. It's like, no one says anything

768
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 2: to you.

769
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 4: You're just home for a week.

770
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 2: You got the whole week, you got Thanksgiving, got the football,

771
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 2: you got the family. I used to This used to

772
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 2: be like my when I was in when I was

773
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 2: in college, this was like my favorite week of the year.

774
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: I loved it.

775
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 4: I can. I'm seeing it through his eyes. I mean

776
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 4: he's been home since Thursday night. Yeah, it's like, oh, yeah,

777
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 4: he's in.

778
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 3: You still had four weeks off. You'd be like, dude,

779
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 3: go find something to do.

780
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 4: Get out of here, right lawn or something.

781
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 2: Driveway, go help with the senior home down the road.

782
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 2: I don't know, do something, but yeah, man, Thanksgiving week.

783
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 2: Just that week and getting back together with your buds

784
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 2: for the first time in few months. That was the best.

785
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: We've got plenty more to get to. We'll continue to

786
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: give some thoughts on this Steelers loss thirty one twenty

787
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: eight to the Bears, will obviously go around the league

788
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: and look at a very important Week twelve slate of

789
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: results in our number two as well. All that and

790
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: more as we roll along, Eu'ler Williamson The Drive Steelers

791
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 2: Audio Network.

792
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: Your tune's about Drive on your twenty four to seven

793
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

794
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 2: Back on the drive here closing down the first hour, Matt,

795
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: kind of, you know, piggybacking off of a little bit

796
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: of what Rob talked about, where you know, in some

797
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 2: ways it feels like it's a better team than six

798
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 2: and five, but you are what your record says you are. Yeah,

799
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: and that's just also kind of life in the National

800
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 2: Football League. Sometimes the bounces are going to go your way.

801
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: Sometimes they're not. Sometimes kys Didy Chiefs thing right, you're

802
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 2: gonna go win twelve straight one score games and then

803
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 2: lose four or five in a row, although they might

804
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: have some life now we'll get to that an hour

805
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 2: number two, Matt. The Steelers have now lost three games

806
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 2: this year when they've scored twenty five points. They're three

807
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: and three in games where they score twenty five or

808
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 2: more points.

809
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 5: Yeah.

810
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the most losses in a season for the

811
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 2: Steelers in such games since twenty eighteen.

812
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 4: I saw that, Yeah, and it was.

813
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 2: Obviously a much maligned Steelers defense in twenty eighteen that

814
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 2: was still trying to recover from the loss of Ryan

815
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: Shazier and find its identity and was not a very

816
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 2: good unit. The Steelers in twenty three and twenty four

817
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 2: were nine to oh when scoring twenty five plus points.

818
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 4: I thought that was pretty telling that to me.

819
00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: Again, it paints obviously not the most uh, you know,

820
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 2: successful picture for your defense that we all know, you know,

821
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty million dollars, highest paid defense in

822
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 2: the league. That pendulum swings back to the other side

823
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 2: this week, right, as we've kind of laughed about. But

824
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 2: it almost to me, you've got to find ways to

825
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 2: getting back to what I was kind of asking King

826
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: or there. I know that the defense hasn't lived up

827
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: to the billing that we all expected coming into this year, right,

828
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 2: but I also think you have got to find ways

829
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 2: to consistently score more points because even when you are

830
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 2: it's not guaranteeing success like it used to. I mean,

831
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 2: we usually Steelers, you know, go out there and score

832
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 2: three or four touchdowns and you're hardly ever gonna lose. Yeah,

833
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: they got to find a way to get some more

834
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 2: of these playmakers involved, man other than just Warren and

835
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: Kenneth Gainwell agreed.

836
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 4: So back to that blurb that stuck with me too

837
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 4: of everything that, yeah, it's the one that back it

838
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 4: because it used to be. I pull a lot of

839
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 4: my stats out of there. It's very useful comes straight

840
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 4: from the league. But going into this season, can pretty

841
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 4: much go back to the end of Roethlisberger era that

842
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 4: the magic number was twenty points. Like if the Steelers

843
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 4: got the twenty they won an extremely high percentage of

844
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 4: their games. Yes, now, it didn't happen as much as

845
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 4: a lot of teams, you know, so you had to

846
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 4: grind out low scoring games, and everybody remembers that era.

847
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 4: This era feels different, you know, because they do score

848
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 4: into the twenties and thirties with some regular air much

849
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 4: more often. So you see it and you're like, boy,

850
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 4: you know, Dale, I made the joke for years and years.

851
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 4: It's like they don't throw touchdown passes, you know, they

852
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 4: throw thirteen in a season or something crazy like that.

853
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 4: I mean, Rogers has more than anybody since Ben and

854
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 4: it didn't play yesterday and it's not even Thanksgiving, you

855
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 4: know what I mean. Like, so you see the progress

856
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 4: in Rob's point, you can kind of taste what's there,

857
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 4: you know, like they're I see a lot of reasons

858
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 4: to think that it's not the same Steelers that went

859
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 4: into Buffalo or be by my home. Yeah, that was

860
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 4: the perfect example. It's Henry and Lamar are just running

861
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 4: all over you and like they're not even they're gonna

862
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 4: lose this game ten out of ten times or nine

863
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 4: and a half out of ten, you know, like that

864
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 4: team's just better. That's the Ravens where a lot of

865
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 4: these games it's like you're battling really good teams right

866
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 4: to the end, or you're deficient in a couple areas.

867
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 4: And unfortunately they've been in some of the same areas

868
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 4: of late. But I didn't think that would be the number,

869
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 4: you know, the the or the stat Like that's what

870
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Speaker 4: shocks me from the you know in Latrobe, you.

871
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 2: Think the stat would be when they get they give

872
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: up twenty five or more.

873
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, right, right, then they're they're five hundred.

874
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 4: Or I wouldn't think they'd scored that many as often

875
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 4: as they did, and I wouldn't think that they lose

876
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 4: as many times, right, And I'm mind applying there like

877
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 4: last year's Bengals or this year bank where you know,

878
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 4: you lose every game thirty six thirty five and it's

879
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 4: a total shootout all the time. But you're right with

880
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 4: the offensive stuff too, Like they're throwing all these deep balls,

881
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 4: well not a lot. They don't throw it deep very often,

882
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 4: but when they do, it's the guys that aren't really

883
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 4: great at contest and catches the metcalf and Austin and

884
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 4: Wilson and I hadn't even thought of this, but pursued it,

885
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 4: brought it up. He's like, well, should Valdos Scantling get

886
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 4: a helmet? And I originally thought, like, I've seen that

887
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 4: show at a lot of different stops and it's not

888
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 4: the answer. But he does that. Well, you know, I

889
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 4: see what they saw on body type. Not just because

890
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 4: he's Rogers buddy, right, He's one of the big problems

891
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 4: with Austin and Wilson to me on the deep balls

892
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 4: is they're just too small, you know, at the catch points,

893
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 4: and Metcalf is not a great catch point receiver despite

894
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 4: his dimensions. I mean that's clear. Pickens was, you know.

895
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're gonna throw deep balls outside the

896
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 4: numbers as a foundation, the guys hauling them in have

897
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 4: to be better at it. And frankly, Rudolph's passing was

898
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 4: just poor in that regard yesterday. You know, I would

899
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 4: love to see what Rogers could have done.

900
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 5: It was.

901
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a combination of not the best quarterback

902
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 2: play and I think just not catering the route tree

903
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 2: to your receiver's best skill sets.

904
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

905
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 2: Right, and when you combine that with you know, little

906
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 2: to no success or involvement from your tight ends in

907
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 2: the past game. Yeah, that's even with the success on

908
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 2: the ground ninety two for gain Well sixty eight Jalen.

909
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, protection was good.

910
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it certainly was.

911
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 4: I mean, I think no one on the team and

912
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 4: more than thirty six receiving yards thirty six.

913
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, only two guys had more than thirty Calvin Austin

914
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 2: and Kenneth Gainwell Well game Well had exactly thirty.

915
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 4: So that's thirty right, Yeah, yeah, right, but yeah, I

916
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 4: mean seed more production than that. You know, you do numbers.

917
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 2: Twenty two yards for Darnell twenty two yards or DK Metcalf.

918
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 3: I mean you tell me between those two.

919
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: If you would to tell me going into this game,

920
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:17,959
Speaker 2: right that Darnell, DK, John U, Pat fryar Mouth, we're

921
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: barely going to combine for over eighty yards receiving together.

922
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 4: The four of them are just big pass came.

923
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 2: Combined, went for like eighty four eighty I'm trying to

924
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 2: do quick math, eighty four eighty five yards.

925
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, well under one hundred for.

926
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Speaker 2: Four guys, and I'm be like, there's no chance and

927
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 2: you're six rush for two hundred and fifty yards to

928
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: win the game in the game, right, that's and again.

929
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 4: And they're not the only ones to blame four.

930
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, of course, And if this felt

931
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 2: like more of a one off, okay, it was a

932
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 2: backup quarterback.

933
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 3: It was a weird week in that regard.

934
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 4: Fine flushed and made an amazing defense or you know.

935
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 2: But I think we've been underwhelmed in that department pretty

936
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 2: consistently this year, and this was just kind of the

937
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: most glaring exit.

938
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 4: Yeah right, I mean, just give me a little more

939
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 4: from each of them, more collectively, give me twenty five

940
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 4: percent more go along. That might be enough, what it

941
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 4: might be enough.

942
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: Hour in the books, another hour to go, more on

943
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 2: the Steelers defeat in Chicago, and plenty more on a

944
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Speaker 2: wild Week twelve around the National Football League. All of that,

945
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Speaker 2: As we Roll Along was Shuuler Matt Williamson Halfway Home

946
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