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Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. We have the

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Speaker 1: pleasure of sitting down with Justin Mattabiue, fresh off his

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Speaker 1: new four year extension. Congratulations Justin, So one thing I

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Speaker 1: wanted to start with. You know you when you got drafted.

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Speaker 1: We saw the videos, a great video of you and

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Speaker 1: just showing the emotions with you your family at that moment,

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Speaker 1: and you just told reporters that also the emotions just

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Speaker 1: came flooding when you sign this contract. Can you compare contrast, like,

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Speaker 1: what are those moments like when you get drafted versus

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Speaker 1: when you sign a deal like that a life changing deal.

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Speaker 2: Uh, there's somewhere. I think when you get drafted, you

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Speaker 2: just thankful that you know the way is over. But

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Speaker 2: then when you when you sign that deal, you're just

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Speaker 2: flooded with gratitude and just grateful that you know, you

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Speaker 2: had a great year, you came out healthy and now

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Speaker 2: you can you know, provide for your family and just

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Speaker 2: just you know, continue your your family name. And that

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Speaker 2: just made me emotional as well. Yeah, call my dad,

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Speaker 2: he was he was very proud of me. And uh,

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Speaker 2: you know definitely when they post a video, you know,

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Speaker 2: I watched it because you know, when I got drafted,

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Speaker 2: I didn't watch the video as much. I was like,

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Speaker 2: I don't like what. I don't like to watch some

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Speaker 2: cry like I'm But after I sawn the deal, I

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Speaker 2: watched it really thoroughly, like watched it from start to finish,

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Speaker 2: and I started crying almost like the way I cried

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Speaker 2: in the video, because it's very you know, it's it's

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Speaker 2: a lot of hard work, man, a lot of you know,

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Speaker 2: self belief and some people not believing in you. Some

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Speaker 2: people is believing you, but you have to believe in

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Speaker 2: yourself and just anything in life. So for it to

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Speaker 2: it was very just very thankful.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. As a man who cries from time

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Speaker 1: to time.

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Speaker 3: Man, sometimes I appreciate it. Thank you.

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Speaker 4: I'm curious just to kind of talk a little bit

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Speaker 4: more about your family, because your family was there in

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Speaker 4: that video on draft day. You know you have family

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Speaker 4: here with you here today. You talked about calling your dad.

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Speaker 4: You It's clear to me and just knowing you and

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Speaker 4: talking to you that family is something that is really

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Speaker 4: important to you. So sharing that moment with them, how

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Speaker 4: significant was that.

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Speaker 2: It was super significant you know for me. Families everything,

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Speaker 2: you know, even in this building, and like we break

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Speaker 2: just in the sense of just togetherness, support system, having

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Speaker 2: your back. My dad has always been there from the beginning,

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Speaker 2: my mom as well my uncle, and you know, I'm

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Speaker 2: just very very thankful to make them proud.

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Speaker 4: Do you when you when you sign a contract like

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Speaker 4: you call your dad and you think about your mom

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Speaker 4: and your dad and your uncle and just all the

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Speaker 4: support that they've provided, do you kind of think about

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Speaker 4: all of that, you know, kind of the work and

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Speaker 4: the the support that they've provided to you to help

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Speaker 4: you get to this, to that moment, and this is

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Speaker 4: kind of the culmination over that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, I do. You know. When I was

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Speaker 2: was like hard work, hard work, hard work. You know,

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Speaker 2: we came to this country with not much much, and

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Speaker 2: and to support you well and your siblings. So you know,

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Speaker 2: you need to keep pushing that, you know, forward and

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Speaker 2: keep working hard on anything that you do. You know,

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Speaker 2: so your kids can see that and keep it going.

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Speaker 2: So it's just a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, I wanted to explore that a little more too.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're the son of Nigerian immigrants, and like

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Speaker 1: you said, you know, they didn't have a whole lot

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Speaker 3: Started out here.

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Speaker 1: You know, how much does that add Can you talk

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Speaker 1: about that backstory, how that shaped you, I guess, and

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Speaker 1: how much that adds to the gratification of providing this deal,

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Speaker 1: not just for yourself but for your family and everybody, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. You know, you know, my mom and dad

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Speaker 2: they came here, you know, in ninety five to New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: They had my older brother Jason in New Jersey ninety six.

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Speaker 2: You know, felt that, you know, they need to expand

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Speaker 2: So it just comes from humble beginnings, you know, just

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Speaker 2: and good things will come to that. My own mom

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Speaker 2: always said as well to us. Alongside of that, with

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Speaker 2: to people. You know, it helps in terms of just

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Speaker 2: new opportunities and new doors coming for you, in terms

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Speaker 4: So yeah, that's awesome. So you get this deal done?

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Speaker 3: Was there ever a doubt?

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Speaker 4: Like did you just feel like I was gonna be

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Speaker 4: a Baltimore even obviously put the franchise tag on you,

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Speaker 4: but like, did you feel like a long term deal

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Speaker 4: was going to get done all along? What was your

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Even throughout the season, Eric was talking about what

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Speaker 2: he wanted to get an extension with of me, you know,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I know it's gonna be a raven.

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Speaker 2: I just didn't know like when it was gonna be official.

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Speaker 2: I'm very very thankful that it happened now. So now

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Speaker 2: I guess you celebrate this with my family. Just get

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Speaker 2: show people that we are. We are still the top dogs,

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Speaker 2: even that we came up short, and you know, just

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Speaker 2: just I'm just just thankful, man, I'm just I'm just

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Speaker 2: keep growing as a player and as a person.

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Speaker 1: Well, when you register thirteen sacks, I think everybody knew

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Speaker 1: you were going to get paid, right, that.

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Speaker 3: Was obvious you did.

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Speaker 1: I was so impressed last year just with your attitude

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Speaker 1: towards the whole thing, right, you were just like, you

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Speaker 1: know what, that's going to take care of itself. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to focus on playing football, and gosh, you reaped

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Speaker 1: the rewards. But as you're doing it, you have to know, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: every one of these sacks, every one of these plays,

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Speaker 1: like I'm making some money for myself, right, Like how

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Speaker 1: did you kind of balance those things?

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Speaker 2: I just like, it's so funny. You know, when I'll

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Speaker 2: sound like Mulig Harrison will be like he'll scratch off

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Speaker 2: my shot back, that's another meal or something like that.

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Speaker 2: I'm just like, bro, get out of my face, Bro

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Speaker 2: win this game. You know, But just just in the

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Speaker 2: sense of just your teammates, they're showing that the very

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Speaker 2: work and they see this success. But at the whole time,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't about, you know, the money and stuff like that,

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Speaker 2: was just about just being great on the on that

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Speaker 2: being a great teammate. And I just knew. I just

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it wasn't repressive just the way that you handled that,

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Speaker 4: because I think that some guys don't necessarily handle that

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Speaker 4: pressure well. I mean, it's challenging. You basically have this

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Speaker 4: huge contract potentially looming over you. It's a life changing

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Speaker 4: amount of money and all that and your ability to

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Speaker 4: block it out. Last time you were on the podcast,

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Speaker 4: we talked about that a little bit, and you were

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Speaker 2: It wasn't easy, okay, But I feel like having strong

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Speaker 2: it be something that's lingering in my mind because you know, fans,

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Speaker 2: your teammates, family, they're all talking about oh contract contre,

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Speaker 2: it's all my ear. But you know I didn't let

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Speaker 1: Can you talk a little bit about you talked after

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Speaker 1: and how that really motivated you last offseason. Can you

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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the work that you put

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Speaker 1: in this past offseason and how you did kind of

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Speaker 1: plan to take it this offseason and beyond for sure.

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Speaker 2: You know after that Bengals lost, you know it mean

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Speaker 2: Zach tapped up and said, you already know you're about

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Speaker 2: to go crazy next year. I can feel it. And

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Speaker 2: you know, I gave myself like a month maybe a

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Speaker 2: you know, if I want to go visit place to

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Speaker 2: see my family, go tour, go see cities I haven't

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Speaker 2: seen whatever, shop vice versa. I got all that done.

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Speaker 3: You can do more shopping now, yeah, different stores.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. But you know, like literally after that,

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Speaker 2: I was like, every day I'm going to do something

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Speaker 2: Like every day, you know, if it's off day, I'm stretching,

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Speaker 2: I'm doing yoga, I'm doing some type of recovery. If

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Speaker 2: it's worked there, I'm busting my butt working early in

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm staying consistent. You know, I'm holding myself

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Speaker 2: nobody's gonna nobody's gonna do it for me, I gotta

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Speaker 2: do for myself. You know, a grown man out here

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Speaker 2: is a grown man's league. It's a man's league. You know,

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Speaker 2: there's just no room for excuses. I just really helped

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Speaker 2: like like like twenty days man, twenty days is the

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Speaker 2: you know it worked out, and I'm just gonna I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna keep that formula for sure.

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Speaker 1: I think what's exciting about you is, you know, you

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Speaker 1: had a fantastic season last year obviously led to all

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Speaker 1: defensive linemen with sacks, but I still see, you know,

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Speaker 1: I feel like you can even take it to another level,

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Speaker 1: Like you have that ability, you have that work ethic,

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Speaker 1: you have the mindset, you have all that it takes

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Speaker 1: to be the best defensive tackle in the game.

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Speaker 3: And there's some other great ones, right the.

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Speaker 1: Ris Jones, Aaron Donald, you know, those kind of guys

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Speaker 1: like you're in that class, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: Like do you look at it like I feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm just kind of scratching the service, Like there there

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Speaker 1: is a lot more like how do you look at that?

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Speaker 2: Because if you don't, somebody else will. So why not

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Speaker 2: You know. I just I have that and got it.

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Speaker 2: It just means that they're after me now. And you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, nah, I put in this work for years,

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Speaker 2: I've been putting in this work, but it's all right,

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Speaker 2: don't worry about it. It's not for you to know.

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Speaker 3: You gotta be fired up right here.

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Speaker 4: You gotta be fired up sitting.

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Speaker 2: Here for sure. So I'm ready.

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Speaker 1: So how much just playing all these different positions I

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Speaker 1: How much does that help with being able to kind

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Speaker 2: Lineman guessing, Oh, it helps for short but just being

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Speaker 2: You know, I can bring a lot of attraction on

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Speaker 2: I feel like those are just the key, I guess

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Speaker 1: Mary getting a big time second contract as a Ravens

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Speaker 2: Now? Gee Sizzle, Ray Lou, Ray Louis, all these guys.

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Speaker 2: I mean, these are legendary, legendary players. To be in

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Speaker 2: you know man, It's just it's just stuff to put

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Speaker 3: See hungry. I think it's because we're getting close to lunchtime.

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Speaker 3: You keep talking about you talking about the cafeteria.

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Speaker 2: Make me hungry for sure, But yeah, those are great players.

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Speaker 2: And just to be accompany with them and just keeps

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just the last question I have. Eric's Acosta talk

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Speaker 4: to to be really sure about who else you give

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Speaker 4: You know that he's taking up a big portion of

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Speaker 4: Is that significant to you that like it's harder to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that question, Yeah, but I.

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Speaker 4: Mean it's like, does that mean something to you? Like,

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Speaker 2: Is very very very significant to me, very very important

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Speaker 2: to me. I don't take it lightly. You know. It

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Speaker 2: And yeah, man, I got to prove the doubt is

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Speaker 1: My last question is you have to ask this after

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: How do you celebrate? That's the question.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I gotta get my dad and mom something

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Speaker 2: for sure.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, we got your dad.

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Speaker 2: Spoilers, Gotta slap my uncle something too, for sure. Forget

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Speaker 2: It's just a great time and you know, just enjoying it.

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Speaker 2: Just taking one day at a time. Man. And I'm

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Speaker 2: not getting another watch. You have a nice watch on. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So you know, just exciting time. You know, my dad's excided,

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Speaker 2: I could feel it. And that just makes me smile,

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Speaker 1: Hey, congratulations, you're one of those guys that everybody roots

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Speaker 3: You deserve this. We're really happy for you, sir.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you man, Thank you well.

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Speaker 4: just a great conversation with Mattabik. I think that you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a great four years or beyond

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Speaker 1: for Ravens fans in this organization watching what this guy becomes.

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Speaker 1: That was one of my big takeaways was the work

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that everything I heard from him, I

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Speaker 4: and he talked about it, how you know I'm out

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Speaker 4: to show now I wasn't just a one hit wonder.

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Speaker 2: I see that.

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Speaker 4: Stuff Like he's already basically creating the narrative of the

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Speaker 4: doubters inside of his head of like who he needs

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Speaker 4: to prove wrong? Right, Like that's like part of how

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Speaker 4: he operates, and you can already see that being manufactured

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Speaker 4: right now.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was also interesting to hear Eric the

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Speaker 1: Costa talk about, you know, in this new salary cap

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Speaker 1: world that they're in with Lamar Jackson's contract and all

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Speaker 1: the ramifications of that contract.

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Speaker 3: You have to be you have to hit.

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Speaker 1: You have to hit on every single one of these

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Speaker 1: big contracts that you give out. There can't be a

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Speaker 1: swing and amiss anymore, or you're you're in real trouble, yep,

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Speaker 1: because you just can't hand out a ton of them.

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Speaker 1: As much as the Ravens would like to also give one,

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Speaker 1: probably to Patrick Queen, that's just not the real world

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Speaker 1: that they live in. And so the fact that they

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Speaker 1: gave one the Justin Mattabik says even that much more

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Speaker 1: considering the circumstances that they're in salary cap wise now.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I think it's also interesting to think

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Speaker 1: about how this deal went down. You know, they've they've

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Speaker 1: talked how they want to get they've talked about getting

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Speaker 1: this deal done for a long time. But the timing

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Speaker 1: of it, it's also interesting just a few days after

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Speaker 1: the franchise tag, before Chris Jones signed his big deal,

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Speaker 1: and you have to wonder whether that played any role

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Speaker 1: in it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well it is interesting.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I I thought, and I've said this before, like I

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Speaker 4: thought the Chris Jones deal might have an impact on

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Speaker 4: the Matta Bak deal. Jones deal would come first because

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Speaker 4: they didn't use the franchise tag on him, so there

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Speaker 4: was a there was a clock that was ticking on him,

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Speaker 4: and then in actuality, the Matta Bak deal gets done

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Speaker 4: before the Jones deal. The Chris Jones deal ends up

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Speaker 4: being bigger. He gets a five year, reported one hundred

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Speaker 4: and sixty million dollar contract for him and and you know,

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Speaker 4: you look at it and I you know it if

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Speaker 4: you play this thing out, I mean, christ Jones has

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Speaker 4: been great, Like, he's been one of the best players

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Speaker 4: at his position and through the last for the first

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Speaker 4: eight years of his career, and so over the past

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Speaker 4: four years he's certainly.

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Speaker 3: Been super Bowl He's been great games.

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Speaker 4: So like over the last four years, yeah, he's been

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Speaker 4: a better player that made Bika has in the course

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Speaker 4: of those four years. But as you play this thing

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Speaker 4: out over the next four years, I really think that

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Speaker 4: Madabike could end up being the premier defensive tackle in football,

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Speaker 4: like the best. And then then you maybe feel like

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Speaker 4: this contract was a bargain. It's a big deal reported

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Speaker 4: around one hundred million dollars over the course of four years.

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Speaker 4: Big deal, Okay, But like I really feel like Matti

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Speaker 4: Bike is going to perform at a level that you

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Speaker 4: feel that the man they got this guy at a

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Speaker 4: great price if he keeps improving the way that he has.

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Speaker 1: And I also wonder if the price would have been

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Speaker 1: a different had it come after the Christians deal. I

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Speaker 1: think getting it in before that deal maybe kept it

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Speaker 1: at what it was. I don't know, that's all hypothetical.

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Speaker 1: I agree with your point though that I think ultimately

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Speaker 1: Justin Matdebique is kind of the next guard of those

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Speaker 1: caliber of players. He's in a different mold than Chris Jones.

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Speaker 1: Is certainly much more similar to Aaron Donald, right, and

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Speaker 1: those are kind of the veterans who are still really

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Speaker 1: great players, but as they kind of are in the

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Speaker 1: back nine of their career. Justin Matta Bkay is very

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Speaker 1: much still in the front nine, and I think that's

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Speaker 1: next step for him is kind of hitting those kind

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Speaker 1: of that kind of production on a consistent basis like

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Speaker 1: those guys have. I mean Aaron Donald in his fifth

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Speaker 1: year had twenty and a half sacks. Yeah, right now,

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Speaker 1: that's that's darn lofty. Can Justin Matta Bikay hit that.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to bet against. I'm not gonna say no, right,

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Speaker 1: But like that's and then Chris Jones just to sustain success,

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Speaker 1: big time plays in big time moments, winning play, helping

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Speaker 1: to win playoff games, helping to win Super Bowls, Like

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Speaker 1: that's the next level.

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Speaker 3: And I think Justin matda Bka is going to get

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Speaker 3: to that level.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Like I said, I think that the feeling is

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Speaker 4: that he is and will continue to be one of

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Speaker 4: the best defensive tackles in the game. And I think

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Speaker 4: that like again, when you take a step back and

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Speaker 4: you look at it and you say, like, is this

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Speaker 4: a guy that we want to give a contract to?

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Speaker 4: To your point about like you can't miss you got

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Speaker 4: to be really sure about the players that you give

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Speaker 4: big time contracts too, and you feel good about the

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Speaker 4: person and the way that he's improved every year. From

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Speaker 4: a football standpoint, you feel really good about his ability.

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Speaker 4: He has rare ability as a pass rusher, as the

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Speaker 4: ability to play the run up or he played both.

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Speaker 4: He can be a three down player. He can get

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Speaker 4: after quarterbacks. He has this quick twitch ability. You can

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Speaker 4: put him right over the center, you can put him

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Speaker 4: out on the edge if you want him to.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was an interesting point by Zach Orr

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Speaker 1: press conference too, is that that's kind of how he

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Speaker 1: sees him continuing to get better. Is because he can

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Speaker 1: play so many different positions, like you see with Chris

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Speaker 1: Jones and Aaron Donald. You line him up anywhere to

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Speaker 1: get mismatches and just make it tougher for the O

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Speaker 1: line to key in on stopping them.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of another step for him.

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Speaker 1: He did it last year, and with another year of

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Speaker 1: practicing at all those different positions, I think it'll be

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Speaker 1: even better at that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I just think it's a great move. I

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Speaker 4: also think that if you have you have a cornerstone

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Speaker 4: piece of your defense right strong, really strong, up the middle,

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Speaker 4: strong on all three levels. I just think it's a

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Speaker 4: great move. And I think the other bent benefit, you know,

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Speaker 4: it's kind of a I don't think this was the driver,

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Speaker 4: but it's an added benefit is that you have some

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Speaker 4: money to play with a free agency. Now you've fread

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Speaker 4: up about ten million dollars in cap space by getting

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Speaker 4: this steal done rather than having him play on the

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Speaker 4: franchise tag. And you know, the reports are already out

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Speaker 4: there in terms of what's happening in free agency, and

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Speaker 4: by the time we're done here, there could be five

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Speaker 4: other different reports. So who knows where things go in

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Speaker 4: free agency. But you have some more money to play with,

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Speaker 4: and I'm sure Eric's Costa is going to make good

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Speaker 4: use of that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Well, thank you for listening, and as always, you

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Speaker 1: can email us at the lounge at Ravens NFL dot net.

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Speaker 1: Tune in to the Ravens Press Pass podcast if you

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Speaker 1: want to listen to the entire press conference with Justin Medabi, ge,

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Speaker 1: Eric Tacosta, and Zach Orr. Thanks for listening and we'll

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Speaker 1: be back with you surely this week. I think we'll

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Speaker 1: have some more podcasts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, don't worry about it. Absolutely